gameplay-discussion

[lofty garden]

droptable only lists two. might be a mistake.

[primal dune]

Imma be real, that 1 time purchase high key gives out a hell lot more than farming kuva for a whole week, with way less effort 💀

not to mention the other vendors lol

the only kuva missions im touching is the one that guarantees a requiem relic, for the rare occasion of tackling a kuva lich

[vestal drum]

i haven't even bothered with riven rolls, honestly.
Too many weapons, too few i use.
When i do finally get one for a weapon i have, use, and like, i'll hopefully have plenty of kuva stored up

[primal dune]

Yeah, same, riven mods pool for weapons are so wide it's basically useless for 99 percent of the time cuz you don't have the weapon it's suited for

And if you have one, you'll have to both invest that weapon up to meet up to the standard gear you're using, and your rolls gotta be adequately great

[lucid owl]

Did wallrunning come with the old peace? I saw a clip of it a while ago but I forgot where

[vestal drum]

no, its delayed

[primal dune]

I went and checked wiki to see the kuva drops amount for non vendor sources and jeez, it's abysmally low

The primary method for acquiring Kuva is through Kuva Siphon missions, of which there are two types available: the regular Kuva Siphon (mission level 25-35) and the Kuva Flood (mission level 80-100). Successfully destroying one Kuva Siphon will grant around 550-700, while the Kuva Flood will award 1100-1400.
either 550-700 or 1100-1400 🥀 solely buying from palladino - not accounting for other vendors - is way better investment than this

[fading zinc]

Is there a progression checklist or anything that I can use to keep track of anywhere?

[primal dune]

Alecaframe's a good software, it's great for that and more iirc

[vestal drum]

codex?

[sudden osprey]

Work days been busy but finally had some time.
Just farmed Uriel parts and his weapon and now need to farm resources.
What’s a good way to farm the resources? Nekros desecrate while running around Perita Rebellion?

[vestal drum]

So with void cascade, do you need to take over as many exolizers as possible, or to guard one at a time and then move on to the next when its spent?
tried watching a video, but dude is droning on and on about every minute detail.
video on void cascade doesn't need to go into detail of how overguard works

[lofty garden]

should not take more than 1-3 perita runs to get the mats for uriel

[vestal drum]

Don't even need to farm those mats, they drop like candy from a pinata.

[strange kettle]

You need ~1800 of them (Uriel only), unless you're stacking boosters you'll be there for a while

[formal jasper]

so my helios prime was able to scan these clan decorations lmao, im guessing the statue of protector stalker uses his entity code

[lofty garden]

A nekros should be able to harvest enough for uriel in a few runs

[vestal drum]

maybe they lowered the drop rate, but i have a metricshitton of the mats without trying

Just had arbitration drones in a zariman extermination bounty.

https://tenor.com/view/psyduck-confused-gif-13250153

[lofty garden]

2175/880/350 for uriel

[next wasp]

should I be heavy attacking with the kestrel prime? My friend seems to think I’m using it wrong for not spamming heavy attacks

[vestal drum]

No wrong way to play the game, if you're enjoying yourself.

[primal dune]

Yeah this game's a sandbox

a sandbox and a marathon, no need to rush

[onyx wren]

-# based pfp
A melee weapon is a melee weapon dude, either hit the button harder or faster and that's all you need, do whichever is more fun to you

[next wasp]

true
I use it to spread a list of status since it bounces 8 times as has a way higher status chance than crit, but he seems to think all glaives are just thow then heavy attack

[onyx wren]

Leave the fool to his delusions
Play how you want, it's Warframe, someone's probably made the Bolter into a godslayer

[next wasp]

well the incarnon is pretty fun

[robust talon]

Something something Toxin Eximus in Infested/Techrot missions (clip was from someone else)

[vestal drum]

is the toxic the purple ones?
I've never bothered to learn what any of the enemies do aside from the green ones, and it took me forever to figure out the green light wasn't itself an enemy, but spawned by one

[robust talon]

No toxin ones are green ones, purple ones are Energy Leech which they spawn a circle beneath your feet

[vestal drum]

oh, that's rather nice to know

[lyric lotus]

[proven hound]

Hello. How do I manage clan standing to donate decorations??? :3

I know there's none... it's just... uhm... what do I do?

[broken belfry]

why the hell cant i change the emissive colors for the drifter attachmetns

[frail moth]

For the Tigris prime what Arcane is the most effective for general use?

[strange kettle]

I end up with barely over 150 per run (Steel Path or Normal), 0 boosters but still😭

[proven hound]

New bug with operator/drifter update apparently. Also signa's energy color and voidshells materials aren't working

[lofty garden]

If he nekros and farms instead of going fast, no reason to think he cannot gather more than that.

I use a resource booster, but I was flying all over the map using grapple points and never stopping to mow down enemies, so I am sure my resource gathering was on the low end of the scale

[strange kettle]

I'll snipe a booster blessing later and report back

[vestal drum]

I was running through the tunnels, mowing people down with melee as i ran

still got to the objective faster than most people

and i was on SP, so more drops

[broken belfry]

Ah i see

[lofty garden]

The only time I stopped to melee in the tunnels is when they blocked my movement. otherwise, the electric procs kept then from touching me

[stiff minnow]

I was able to recover my old account, still has the 2018 Guardiancon emblem and enough vaulted relics to run voids for weeks

[steel bay]

I feel like this is a slight error. They don't actually mean MR30+, right?

[vestal drum]

No, they said it right.
A level 30 warframe, or MR 30 on any warframe

emphasis on the or

[steel bay]

But isn't MR the account level?

[vestal drum]

Yes.

[compact sable]

yea

it made more sense at the time

[steel bay]

So, if you're MR30, you could use an L1 Frame?

[compact sable]

as long as its been forma'd at least once

[vestal drum]

If you already applied a forma to it, yes.

[compact sable]

eso has the same restriction

[boreal pier]

ye this applies to most modes with level 30 frame limits

[compact sable]

it used to be because these were considered the super serious lategame modes

but that was quite a few years ago now and its been powercrept so now it seems kinda funny

[vestal drum]

i'm not MR30 myself, but i do that all the time.
I'll have a frame i take on SP and forma it, and run it as-is.

[compact sable]

so they stopped doing it

[steel bay]

Alright, I think I get it now.

[compact sable]

like iirc you can go into ETAs/EDAs with sub-30 frames

[daring sparrow]

Guys, why can't i do the old peace quest?

[vestal drum]

Says right there.
You need to do lotus eaters

[lofty garden]

eat your lotuses?

[daring sparrow]

I've done it

[vestal drum]

Clearly not 100%

[lofty garden]

Do it again?

The final bit is meeting lotus in a sandy place, I think.

[daring sparrow]

I've done it today

[lofty garden]

restart the client?

[daring sparrow]

Let me try

[lofty garden]

if that doesn’t do it, could be a bug, or send in a ticket to #support-and-bugs

[daring sparrow]

Okay

[lofty garden]

Thank the Maker! Scarf in 2026!!!

[daring sparrow]

I found the reason why

I haven't checked the inbox

The quest got sent by Loid

[lofty garden]

Ahh

Loidogram’ed

[reef creek]

Scarves..

[steel bay]

It says why. Do The Lotus Eaters.

[warped pike]

did the operation got added?

[south girder]

They already handled it, and already did Lotus eaters

[vestal drum]

I don't think its live yet

[fallow jetty]

Are there any frames that are good for riven challenges

[restive warren]

.... Which riven challenge tho

Otherwise that doesn't really narrow it down

[vestal drum]

All at once!

[restive warren]

[fallow jetty]

Those without dmg ones

[restive warren]

[vestal drum]

That doesn't narrow it down

just say what it is

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[wanton smelt]

Anyone know if Baruuk's deflect is still a thing? Just saw a 5 month old build on him where he was able to deflect bullets by just having his desert wind out to build up combo but i cant seem to recreate it

[fallow jetty]

Like finish capture mission without getting dmged

smtg like that

[vestal drum]

ivara would be good, probably
octavia too

[restive warren]

Ivara, Loki, Octavia, Ash. Anything that goes invisible

Arguably some are more annoying because of invis duration

[vestal drum]

Killing everything before they attack also works

[restive warren]

Wisp if you do a hover build

[fallow jetty]

Ah alright

Thanks

[lofty garden]

Wolf Hood is a scarf?

[swift terrace]

Who has the strongest summons? I wanna make a theorem contagion build

I was thinking of doing one w dantes birds

[vestal drum]

i'd guess uriel's demons are a strong contender, though i'm not sure if they count

[swift terrace]

They do but I dont rly like uriel

[brave flare]

Caliban with his razor gyre augment makes his summons pretty strong

[swift terrace]

Are dantes birds even good for dmg? I dont know much about him besides "haha funny 40k overguard go brr"

[boreal pier]

nah his birds are more support for boosting your dots

[swift terrace]

What about that sand kavat cocaine battery cat volt build, would the boosted electric dmg from theorem contagion boost the electric aura on the kavats?

[icy cliff]

I like using Ivara for a few of them

I use Zephir and hop into Orb Valis when I need to do x amount of headshots in one aim glide

Same with Oraxia and the wall latch challenge

[vestal drum]

Not to spill my secret sauce, but you don't have to be the one to get the kills.
I usually take those into hydron and jump around while others kill

[icy cliff]

I didn't know that 🤭 I like doing Orb Valis just because you can hop in and out without having to do a whole mission

I guess capture is fast enough, and now Defense is only 3 waves, it goes pretty fast as well

[spiral mango]

The Roathe boss becomes genuinely harder because people don't interact with his mechanics

[olive isle]

Is it me or I cant fight Hunhullus without getting bugged and sent out of the map?

I did it 4 times and I was sent out of the map 4 times

[sullen rain]

The prime vanguard boss on steel path is the most painfully unfair bs when solo

And of course cause my Internet is sucky I discovered the hard way by being forced into solo

[lofty garden]

I solo’d honey bun… 75 times? 80? Didn’t fall out of the map.

prime vanguard scaling from regular to SP is stupid. I ran those solo regular.

[leaden obsidian]

Prime vanguard? That the caliban, ash, mesa, volt, protea, ember?

[lofty garden]

Should be, unless tall boy or spider got a promotion

[leaden obsidian]

Ah, honestly never had problems with it. Easier to solo them and don’t risk getting dced

[lofty garden]

What takes half a clip, at most, from Felarx on regular takes multiple clips on SP, so something is “off”

[leaden obsidian]

Nah valkyr is just cracked

[sullen rain]

Yeah

The part where all 6 drop down is just hell for me

[sullen rain]

Might've been cause I was on uriel

[leaden obsidian]

Uriel should do just fine

[lofty garden]

the second phase was nasty, but they are less tanky

Uh oh, Ironmouse is "one more mission"'ing again...

[south girder]

The grind never stops

[lofty garden]

"just 15 minutes"

[lilac chasm]

Anyone else notice that the gyre axi relic has a forma in uncommon rewards and its not a forma x2?

[lofty garden]

Yeah, haven't seen a known bug for it, but I assume they know.

if you're partaking in the operation, you probably want to get several hundred ciphers ready...

I burned through 400-500...

[vestal drum]

or you can just do the puzzle

[leaden obsidian]

“Just 5 more minutes”

[lofty garden]

"My mom's gonna kill me"

[hidden thunder]

is there an issue with the nightwave mission for 20 min survival? a friend has done several survivals (one with me as well) and it's just not completing

[lofty garden]

you went to rotation C?

And I assume that's a recover, as it's not in my list for the week.

[hidden thunder]

it is a recover, yes

obviously we went past 20 minutes

[vestal drum]

might have been a timing issue.
Did you bug out at exactly 20 minutes, or wait and see if the nightwave thing would flash up first?
Could just be laggy server

[south girder]

This is a reoccurring issue im realizing

[hidden thunder]

our survival together was well over an hour

[lofty garden]

Is it Hold Your Breath, or is it Survival?

[hidden thunder]

and he's done several 20+ min survivals since

[lofty garden]

Hold Your Breath is Kuva Survival

[hidden thunder]

it's regular survival

[vestal drum]

weird.
i'd report it

[south girder]

Some other people can’t get that challenge to pop either

[lofty garden]

I would try Kuva Survival, see if that works, and if it does, then report it as a bug.

[hidden thunder]

yeah he's doing it rn

just thought i'd ask here as well

[lofty garden]

Not sure if there's a list somewhere of each week's acts that have been released. Could go back and see if Survival was on it, or if it was Kuva Survival and it's getting mangled during the recover phase.

[spark peak]

Guys

Is hydroid harder to get or limbo parts?

[south girder]

Limbo isn’t the slightest bit difficult

[hidden thunder]

limbo is just quest rewards, right?

[lofty garden]

prime or regular?

[south girder]

Hydroid you have to kill Vay Hek several times

[vestal drum]

if you go to the circuit right now, they are both available with equal ease

[spark peak]

Uh so low drop chance?

[spark peak]

Regular

[south girder]

I mean each run should guarantee you at least one part

[spark peak]

No I meant other than quest

Getting the parts again

[lofty garden]

hydroid is just farm vay hek. limbo, you need to spend standing to get a second normal version.

[vestal drum]

circuit

[spark peak]

Doesn't it need 1

[hidden thunder]

you buy them from simaris

[leaden obsidian]

Vay kek

[lofty garden]

Simaris sells extra limbo parts, but they're 25k each, so...

[spark peak]

Cheap

[hidden thunder]

you can always check circuit

[vestal drum]

....or you could run the circuit

[spark peak]

So hydroid it is

[lofty garden]

Well, some people don't like Mr. No Personal Space.

[spark peak]

He's in the weekly

[hidden thunder]

i still remember old limbo

[south girder]

Wha

[spark peak]

I meant 4*

[hidden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

hydroid's BP is from the market

hay vek drops the other 3

[south girder]

Yeah

[lofty garden]

so your choices are two quest frames (mirage, limbo), or one farm frame (hydroid)

[spark peak]

Oh

[hidden thunder]

both hydroid and limbo are in the circuit right now

[vestal drum]

or circuit

[hidden thunder]

ew is that fandom?

[spark peak]

Yes

[vestal drum]

its the offcial wiki

[lofty garden]

If you and Simaris are copacetic, then the quest frames aren't a problem.

[hidden thunder]

why is it white?

[lofty garden]

'casuse there's a light mode, as gods intended.

[hidden thunder]

light mode needs execution by jade light

[leaden obsidian]

[hidden thunder]

jesus christ i switched to light mode for a second

i got flashbanged

[lofty garden]

Anywho, vay hek can be annoying to farm as his face and his backpack are his only vulnerable spots

[vestal drum]

embrace it

[lofty garden]

So I'd go with Hydroid.

[spark peak]

U mean the rank?

[lofty garden]

I mean if you're fine with farming simaris standing to get things from him.

[spark peak]

Ima go with octopus dude

Seems fun

[lofty garden]

Hydroid is a fun frame.

[spark peak]

Doesn't he need stuff?

[leaden obsidian]

[joke I’m not allowed to make]

[lofty garden]

Does Simaris need stuff?

[spark peak]

🤨I see where ur going

[leaden obsidian]

I can’t make the joke, mods are watching

[lofty garden]

Simaris is just do some SP scans.

[vestal drum]

Capped at 2x,000 a day

[lofty garden]

33.5k/day, and that's before his daily task. His daily task can exceed the daily cap.

[spark peak]

Divided by seas united by thoughts

[spark peak]

Ohh I see

[hidden thunder]

i'd rather farm hydroid than do simaris personally

[spark peak]

That shouldn't be as bad as bounties

[leaden obsidian]

My brain just too silly

[vestal drum]

Don't have to do bounties, you could simply run the circuit

[spark peak]

Sure does take time

[hidden thunder]

SO/ESO should award simaris rep, i'll die on this hill

[spark peak]

Fr tho

[leaden obsidian]

It should

[spark peak]

Also I just made butterfly prime

She good?

[vestal drum]

yes

[leaden obsidian]

Fastest frame

Get razorwing blitz and you’ll suffer from motion sickness

[vestal drum]

One thing faster though

[spark peak]

Dang

[spark peak]

And what is that?

[vestal drum]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-jim-dwight-sinister-look-at-camera-gif-21893011

the circuit

[leaden obsidian]

I won’t say or imply anything

[opaque hinge]

Which one is better: Burston Prime or Laetum

[vestal drum]

isn't laetum a secondary?

[opaque hinge]

Yeah but they both used to melt boss's hp bar

[vestal drum]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379

[lost pine]

Wut does the crossed out damage type mean for a type of enemy? It doesnt mean it heals right? Is it half damage?

[opaque hinge]

They resistance to it

[leaden obsidian]

They’re resistant to it most of the time it doesn’t matter

[vestal drum]

ngl, i never pay attention to weakness or resistance types

[raven shale]

we made it

[leaden obsidian]

The power of harrow compels thee!

[raven shale]

funny enough when i saw it on tiktok i had to check

[vestal drum]

i'm not sold on the honoria

[raven shale]

i was at 248/250 harrow chassis

missing few

[cerulean finch]

when is blood of perita launching

[strong field]

Half my dream came true

[tired nova]

i got a soulframe sword skin if anyone's interested

[tired nova]

in like 30 minutes

[vernal charm]

can this not appear every time i open my damn arsenal?

it's so annoying

[opaque hinge]

Did they fix the Convergence Orb not spawning for client?

[safe bloom]

I thought after hotfx 3 the text box would work but still is bugged

[opaque hinge]

Because you have no lens

[vernal charm]

i don't have a lens in everything i use, all my focus schools are nearly maxed out, i don't care about them anymore

and even if i switch to something with a lens, it pops up whenever i use something that doesn't

[opaque hinge]

Um
But do you use the Tauron

If so then equip lens will charge it faster

[vernal charm]

i don't care about the tauron

it's a glorified operator mod platform

[lofty garden]

do you not have five notifications saying you have new focus school options?

[opaque hinge]

Then ignore it, just a text box

[lofty garden]

they buff operator as well as amp, kinda nifty.

[vernal charm]

it's very distracting and annoying

it should tell you once and that's it

[lofty garden]

Could try equipping a lens and see if it goes away.

[opaque hinge]

It not hard lmao

1 len is enough

You're making this like the biggest deal in the world

[vernal charm]

it comes back whenever there isn't a lens equipped somewhere on the stuff i use

[lofty garden]

is the goal to avoid the convergence orbs in missions?

[opaque hinge]

Then equip one lmao, it's not gonna hurt your build

[opaque hinge]

Why would you avoiding them

Like client orb is not even spawning

[lofty garden]

if he doesn't use focus, then he may not want to see the orb in missions.

[opaque hinge]

That's his problem

[lofty garden]

It's just a bug report/feature request. I can see how not having the yellow indicator on your screen could be desirable.

The HUD has more than a few sticky indicator bugs.

[opaque hinge]

This guy reminds me of a different dude that ask DE to remove the pulling loot from Titania 4th

Also saying Tauron is glorified is just being ignorant

Varazin literally revives teammates in EDA

And sure it's not big but that does not nerf anything that already exists,

[visual lichen]

warning, hunhulus isn't fixed at all, if anything, you're now stuck worse trying to deploy archwing
sending info on forums already

[opaque hinge]

Why complain about sth that is OPTIONAL

[opaque hinge]

Does the Convergence Orb spawn for client yet

[balmy wraith]

...is lyon the one i go to for the new operation event or?? where do i find the thing??

[opaque hinge]

Like I searched the whole patch note and nothing about it

[lofty garden]

people aren't happy with the lens tooltip, so hopefully they'll revert it, or make it somethng you can turn off.

[tired nova]

SFF-78C7-6EDA-AF5D-EFE4

it's a promo code for warframe, whoever can copy paste it first gets it lol

[visual lichen]

if there's anything I want to say about tauron, it's that I want the summon to be instantenous like the first time operator was added to the game 10 years ago
the time when filling focus gauge and you press 5 to shoot beam giving you infinite duration buff

[opaque hinge]

oh thanks

but what weapon can this skin apply on

[tired nova]

i think a lot of it is it's so damm hard to farm for the weapons that most people have only unlocked one or two, so it's hard to really see the system for what it truely is when the gate to entry is the roadblock that it is currently, i have vazarins staff and it's kinda underwheming espicially since it didn't get a 4th skill like i think naramon or zenurik did, not that i'd know since i can't explore the damm things, i have a life and better things to do then repeat the same 12 minute mission/bossfight 100+ times over

[tired nova]

you redeemed it?

it's for longswords

[opaque hinge]

ye, sadly I dont have any rn
is it an old skin?

[tired nova]

na new

came out with the old peace

it's a promo thing for soulframe

[opaque hinge]

oh

[opaque hinge]

Zenurik has 4th skill?

[tired nova]

dunno

i'd love to find out, but the grind is BS, rather do anything else then perita rebellion 60+ times

[opaque hinge]

I mean it not that tedious, compare to Citrine farm it was much more fun

[tired nova]

it's fun sure

i just have a life lol, it takes time, can't really have a strategy on waitting out a timer

[opaque hinge]

I mean if you say like that, it apply to most grind too(beside grind for newer warframes and weapon), because in warframe, it's always take time to farm for anything

[leaden obsidian]

Wish resource boosters worked with it

Bouta just buy the pack that gives all 3 resources, but can be bought 1 time

[tired nova]

that's true, but for tauron it takes too much time is what i'm saying

not that i want it all done in a day god no

[leaden obsidian]

Too much time for some of them to just be mid

[tired nova]

but like...can they at least make it 75 for each?

[tired nova]

that too, with what they are and how they work it's also just super underwheming

[leaden obsidian]

Let resource boosters work to give double resources or just cut the grind down by half

I’d love if resource boosters worked, it’d have given me a reason to buy one that lasts a week(I buy 3 day ones cause cheaper)and just grind pertia for all 5 of them

But I just don’t feel like grinding any more ither than the first one(I grabbed madurais, which I’m wishing I didn’t)

[short siren]

why i didnt get my kuva weapon? if i converted kuva lich i cant get the weapon?

[waxen saddle]

no weapon for converting

[short siren]

oh god

[waxen saddle]

friendship is a lie anyway, profit never betrays you though so just kill the next one you get

[raven shale]

how long

does the event lasts ?

nvm it says 20 days

[cunning tulip]

Why can't I log into the game? It keeps saying initializing

[patent girder]

Do you get marks of Valence from both new modes?

[cunning valve]

When are gonna be able to talk to harrow in the cathedral

[waxen saddle]

when you learn to behave

[hoary bane]

any other controller player having issues using R1? it's toggling ADS for some reason when I just want to use my abilities

[keen shore]

welp GGs to the good old prices AGAIN

[waxen saddle]

rip bozo

[obsidian aspen]

good riddance

[spark peak]

Why does the game keep doing initializing

[waxen saddle]

...because it has to load?

[spark peak]

Or is it js me

[spark peak]

Like 15 times?

[waxen saddle]

iunno

[vapid iris]

got any tips for me before i enter this?

[leaden obsidian]

Nah

[hoary bane]

get water and snacks

[brisk copper]

wait what happened?

[vapid iris]

alr

[spark peak]

Guys why is the game loading for so long?

Is anyone else also experiencing that

[spark peak]

That'll take a few hours..

[hoary bane]

maybe tissues aswell, blanket, get comfy and be preped

[leaden obsidian]

New event dumped energize again

[lofty garden]

bring a proper amp!!

[keen shore]

the event brought back that arcane XD

[leaden obsidian]

Sirocco tho

[brisk copper]

which event?

[vapid iris]

damm

[lofty garden]

I still prefer my 747…

[scenic dome]

Hi i play on ios

[obsidian aspen]

Operation: Blood of Perita

[lofty garden]

our condolences

[leaden kelp]

why are we getting energy cucked in the dark refactory missions,... feels like they only want wepon platforms, god forbid i wanna play a WARFRAME

[scenic dome]

And i have a problem

[brisk copper]

aaah well it's fine it always drops at events when they're available

[spark peak]

I can't get into the game guys

It keeps initializing apparently

[scenic dome]

The game stops can someone help me

[lofty garden]

I use a bluetooth controller on IOS. Makes it just about the same as playing on PC/Console

The game just locks up?

[leaden obsidian]

Hi I play on ios, welcome here

[scenic dome]

When I release lockdown it stops for no reason

[scenic dome]

Hi

[spark peak]

LMAO

[leaden obsidian]

Not every floor is like that

[spark peak]

Bro I need help

The game won't stop loading

[leaden kelp]

i mean the memeory thingies not the tower the tower is easy af

[leaden obsidian]

Skill issue, get a worse playstation

[spark peak]

It's game

[leaden obsidian]

Memory thingies? The maphica?

[spark peak]

Every other game is fine 💔

FINALLY IT STOPPED

[lyric lotus]

[spark peak]

wth

[obsidian aspen]

Perita Rebellion

[leaden kelp]

ye

[leaden obsidian]

Ah the war

[leaden obsidian]

Finally, that’ll be 2k plat

[spark peak]

For what exactly

[leaden obsidian]

For my help

[spark peak]

Here's ur 50 cents

[leaden obsidian]

Nu uh

[spark peak]

Yes 50 cent

[leaden obsidian]

Nope

[strong field]

That's an OLD version of Warframe holy

[spark peak]

1 nickle

[lament walrus]

Make the amp a proper weapon and we will treat it like one.

[leaden obsidian]

That’s mobile

Idk why it looks so old tho

[lament walrus]

Anyone else having some stuff randomly in French despite everything set to English since the hotfix?

[strong field]

It looks like old Warframe for some reason

[obsidian aspen]

graphics

[strong field]

With the lighting

[leaden obsidian]

Nah

[balmy wraith]

other than energize, which arcanes should i get from the operation?

[lament walrus]

Energize has been up so much at this point it's lost all resale value.

[leaden obsidian]

Idk what arcanes there are so I can’t say

[balmy wraith]

not for selling it. idk which arcanes i should get for myself.

[leaden obsidian]

Still a decent value for after the event ends

[leaden obsidian]

Other than energize I can’t suggest anything, just useful to have occasionally

[compact sable]

fury

[distant island]

Do marks of valiance drop in the descendia specifically?

[compact sable]

perita

[distant island]

Thx

[compact sable]

arachne, velocity, avenger, strike also have some usage

[leaden kelp]

okay just a thought for Tauron strikes,.... why cant we handle Lenses like Shards and only put them on frame cuz how its rn its discouraging to build multiple weapons with that cost in mind

[leaden obsidian]

I’m gonna grab precision

[waxen saddle]

lenses really should be swappable and reusable tbh

[leaden obsidian]

Won’t matter when yiu get a stockpile

[lofty garden]

Plenty of lenses in the game.

[fair flame]

I don't think you need the focus lense for that focus school specifically. To get the bonus

[lofty garden]

You do not.

[fair flame]

So just slap on anything to everything

[leaden obsidian]

I think any work, I just have lenses for the same school to maximize my focus

[fair flame]

Glad I have a redundant pile of these useless things

[leaden obsidian]

I got my daily focus maxed out

[vital saddle]

did they actually fix tauron?

[lofty garden]

What did you think was broken?

I would say that right now, it seems to be functioning as it should outside Perita, with some occasional exceptions like too much focus or no focus.

[pearl parcel]

hey big can i get your opinion on it

[leaden obsidian]

Sure

[pearl parcel]

should i do the existing single thick pillar or a three thick pillar for the center of the stairwell

[leaden obsidian]

3 thick

[obsidian aspen]

Truly warframe

[pearl parcel]

thanks man

[leaden obsidian]

Yw

[leaden obsidian]

Nah this is more the off topic chat, well used to be. Everyone that used to chat about off topic stuff got busy

[obsidian aspen]

"Discuss topics related to Warframe gameplay"

[pearl parcel]

that and things appear rather dead at present so i figured one quick question would bother nobody

i dont usually bring off topic during lively hours unless i'm super proud of it

[strange sorrel]

Why can’t I interact with Lyon? He js says “we have nothing to discuss”

[obsidian aspen]

Unforgivable, we're banning you for life

[obsidian aspen]

read his KIM profile

[pearl parcel]

gotta befriend marie first i believe

[strange sorrel]

Ahh okay. Thanks

[leaden obsidian]

Mods don’t chat here all too often and when they do they don’t tell us to get back on topic they moderate warframe general more anyway

[leaden obsidian]

Gotta get marie to like you first

[pearl parcel]

ye, this is a mix of off topic and gameplay, as long as we arent too unreasonable mods are generally cool about it

[potent condor]

Definitely feel like Last Gasp should take assist kills into account. I get not having the full kill credit to revive, but it's not my fault I did most of the damage to an eximus to save myself and my companion randomly decides to help and steals my kill.

[vestal drum]

shoot the companion first

[primal mortar]

is using both arcane aegis and barrier viable?

[whole light]

guys do I have to lvl up my ranks in syndicates?

[vestal drum]

"have to"? no.

[whole light]

Is it recommended ?

[vestal drum]

highly

[whole light]

Ok noted nodders

[vestal drum]

its easy.
Just pick one, pledge, and forget.
You'll get 2 leveled easy.

[leaden obsidian]

Yes

[vestal drum]

A traffiker says what?

[leaden obsidian]

<@&778745217037238293> blast em

[vestal drum]

well thanks, now my comment lacks context

[leaden obsidian]

Deserved

[brave flare]

Bro got sniped

[leaden obsidian]

They got mega sniped

[vital saddle]

basically

[vestal drum]

yeah, i think a lot of people didn't have lenses on

[whole light]

can you equip 2 different sigil and earn points for 2 factions at once ?

[obsidian aspen]

Sigil Standing was replaced with Pledges

[uncut badge]

Ok, so I know the order in which they came out, but is it better to play OP before Hex, because reading the OP description in the Codex, it sounds like you're still tracking Entrati while Hex reads more like the hunt is nearly over.

[patent valve]

Uriel demon attacking animals was a bug??? I literally thought it was intended they attacks anything with HP on sight?

[vestal drum]

i have no idea how to do hidden stuff

[obsidian aspen]

OP technically happens "during" The Hex (quotations since 1999 is the ancient past)

but I'd say do the Hex quest before OP

[unique tartan]

Even demons have standards

[obsidian aspen]

double borders ||like this||

[uncut badge]

Ok, so I may have forgot some stuff, because what is this?

The tauron charge thing

[obsidian aspen]

Tauron strikes are the new Focus expansion added with OP

[uncut badge]

oh

[vestal drum]

They just added that tooltip. Literally today.
They probably should have hidden it till you get to OP

[obsidian aspen]

yeah

[uncut badge]

Thx. Thought I was going crazy for a moment

[vestal drum]

Well, doesn't have to be mutally exclusive 🙂

has DE ever commented on the possibility of a build queue?

[stiff minnow]

Mod loadout from my old account, absolute cinema

[vestal drum]

wow, i've never seen negative multishot

[stiff minnow]

Oh I have a lot of silly rivens from my old account

Heres one for a Seer

[vestal drum]

i'd label that as nb.
The grineer bit could easily be offset

[cunning tulip]

How to open the Petra quest? It says i need to do something first

Sorry new here

[obsidian aspen]

well you do what it says you need to

[stiff minnow]

This one is my favorite, not only do you need to fight recoil, its zoomed in alot

[grave lion]

can someone tell me what this means?

[lofty garden]

Oh thank goodness, no clan component to this operation.

[vestal drum]

#gameplay-discussion message

[lofty garden]

see those little icons next to Max Rank? Those are lens icons.

Go into Upgrade, then click Action, and you'll see a slot for a lens on the far right.

Only available if the item is fully ranked up.

[obsidian aspen]

Tauron strikes are the Focus expansion added with this update

[dry jetty]

I think there getting buffed

[grave lion]

okay that makes some sense

[brave python]

There are any main gauss here?

[lofty garden]

Lenses boost charging rate on tauron strikes outside Perita.

[grave lion]

i dont have that icon

[obsidian aspen]

yeah, you don't have any Focus Lenses installed

[lofty garden]

That means you have not installed a lens, which is what the message is nudging you about.

[obsidian aspen]

they unlock after the quest "The Second Dream"

[grave lion]

ohhh okay my bad

[lofty garden]

Go into Upgrade, then Actions.

They JUST added the nudge with the hotfix, so the messaging needs a bit of tuning 🙂

[grave lion]

why is it trying to tell me about it now then?

[brave python]

Can anyone share me a good gauss prime build?

[obsidian aspen]

That notification was added with this recent hotfix

[grave lion]

ahhh i see

[obsidian aspen]

seems it's being displayed for everyone regardless of progression

[grave lion]

thank you for yalls help

[lofty garden]

From the update notes. If you do not have an artifact, you should not get the message?

[grave lion]

i dont know what that is, would i fuind it in my inventory/.

[lofty garden]

That means the message is being sent to people who shouldn't be getting it. Oopsie.

The artifact is something you can obtain post-Old War

[grave lion]

aahhhh

yeah no lol im on the last part of natah

[lofty garden]

If you slap a lens on something, the message should go away.

[grave lion]

also while im here i sold my volt a long time ago how do i get another one?

other than buying with plat

[lofty garden]

Tenno Lab in a Clan Dojo has the blueprints.

[obsidian aspen]

Tenno Lab in your Clan's Dojo

[grave lion]

alr ill work on building that then

[lofty garden]

Or join an existing clan.

[grave lion]

only way to get forma bps is through relics right?

[lofty garden]

Can sometimes find them in glowing crates, in the crate you can manifest from the Music Room puzzle on Lua (same puzzle where you get Octavia's Chassis), and the 1999 calendar.

[grave lion]

wow i know what all those words mean separately lol but not like that

[jolly dove]

Is there a reason why elements are removed during the bossfight in the Perita Rebellion? I've only tested on Dactolyst so far, but during the quest the elements work as normal, but during the bossfight it literally gets removed?

I'm using the Dual Toxocyst which have Toxin built into the weapon. I've modded for radiation on it, heat + electricity. During the quest, I proc radiation without any issues. However during the bossfight, I now only proc toxin.

I tried fighting the boss again, however only speccing for cold dmg this time. During the quest I had no issues dealing cold damage and proccing it. However yet again, upon entering the bossfight, I'm now dealing viral damage... Not cold, not toxin, viral. Mind you, I never procced viral during the quest.

Is it supposed to be like this or is it a bug that needs to be reported? I haven't noticed this before...

[lofty garden]

Did you try both the boss and his minions?

My guess is a bug or intentional, but if the sentient minions work and the boss does not, then my guess would be intentional.

[atomic harbor]

i cant seem to be able to give gifts to the newer protoframes

[obsidian aspen]

Yeah, you can't

only the Hex accept gifts

[lofty garden]

Frost, Saryn, and Nova? Don't think you can.

Those three aren't romancible.

[atomic harbor]

why do they have descriptions of what they like o.O

cant give gifts to marie and the others either

[lofty garden]

Honestly, never interacted with any of them.

[obsidian aspen]

So you can get to know them better?

[lofty garden]

I don't think UPS delivers to 1599.

[royal spoke]

guys is it normal for a smeeta kavat to have short ears instead of the long ones that are shown in the wiki page?

[lofty garden]

That was my assumption, anyway.

[jolly dove]

Minions? There's only the boss itself unless I'm blind (or they die so fast that I don't notice them). And since it's a sentient boss they should be weak against cold / radiation, but I can't proc either element during the fight...

[atomic harbor]

well, that is a shame

[obsidian aspen]

it's random

[primal mortar]

anyone else getting disconnected from your squad in the interception alert?

its always after the first round

[leaden obsidian]

Cause DE said no elements

[royal spoke]

weird cause my smeeta looks a lot like an Adarza

[slate flame]

Invictus Signa not returning for new operation is so sad

[royal spoke]

but the game recognizes it as a smeeta nonetheless (thought it might be a bug)

[obsidian aspen]

The only Kavat type that has a distinct appearance are Vasca Kavats

[jolly dove]

Is that an actual thing or...?

[leaden obsidian]

Nah I was just memeing

[swift saffron]

Hey is Torid in rotation this week and should I get it or toxocyst

[leaden obsidian]

Don’t get torid

[obsidian aspen]

Was in last week

[swift saffron]

I’m gonna go ape shit

I just spent all of yesterday finishing my star chart and had two planets left thinking it was this week

[leaden obsidian]

Skill issue

[crisp fox]

was there a way to enter the cathedrale with operator?'

[lofty garden]

No.

[swift saffron]

And why should I not get Torid

[lofty garden]

Gotta be legal to enter the Cathedral.

[leaden obsidian]

Boring weapon

[jolly dove]

If you like to aim for headshots to charge the weapon, and then clear rooms = Toxocyst.
If you instead want to just shoot, charge and clear rooms = Torid.

I use both, I like them both equally as much.

[swift saffron]

I mean? Ok?

[leaden obsidian]

[swift saffron]

Is that the only problem is it’s just a lil boring

[leaden obsidian]

Pretty much yeah

[vestal drum]

i'd say buy what you want

boring to one person is sexy to another

[swift saffron]

Well I’ve gotta wait nearly a month to get it again

[jolly dove]

People will most often recommend not using Torid because it's one of these "everyone uses it, it's strong, therefore, it's boring" situations. Because there are a lot of people who just use Torid and nothing else, now there's nothing wrong with that, but that's usually the reason people tell others to avoid that weapon.

It's good, it'll help you in SP. I'd say go for it.

[swift saffron]

Well I won’t be getting it anyway lmao

Maybe burston prime if I hit mr12

[true kayak]

Isn’t it an eight week timer?

[leaden obsidian]

Same way revenant gets hate, he’s a boring frame to use. While I don’t like using him there’s people(like dryzz) who enjoy him(tho dryzz is a special case)

[true kayak]

Two months

[vestal drum]

a month, i thought it was up this week

[swift saffron]

Yeah I think it doesn’t really matter

[swift saffron]

No apparently it was last week

I thought it was this week also

[vestal drum]

well, that means hate is up next.
i need that.
Happened sooner than i expected. Now i feel like i wasted all my formas on thalys

[swift saffron]

👎

[lofty garden]

how much operation currency per perita run?

[strong field]

8-15/10-17

[onyx wren]

It's like the Type 2A in Battlefield 5 in my understanding
People who use it don't use anything else because it's so unfathomably strong even compared to weapons it should lose to on paper

[vestal drum]

don't enable his disease

[sweet rune]

yo does any 1 want to farm decendia

[vestal drum]

I think you're a week late on that

[obsidian aspen]

#squad-recruitment

[pearl quest]

I can't imagine I can just get one but does anyone have a spare zylok prime barrel? I have all the other items and It would be a shame to never be able to get them

[lofty garden]

why would it be a never?

Comes around when Grendel Prime is in Resurgence.

[pearl quest]

oh ok

how does that work sorry I'm kind of new to this lol

[lofty garden]

So while you're playing, you may notice receiving a blue teardrop-like reward named Aya.

[vestal drum]

warframe.market exists

[brave python]

Any gauss main here?

[lofty garden]

That Aya can be traded for relics from Varzia and/or the Market.

Varzia's relics rotate on a monthly basis.

(special events not withstanding)

[pearl quest]

what's the best way to get more aya?

[lofty garden]

The system is called Prime Resurgence. It replaced the older Prime Vault system.

Open world bounties have the highest chance at rewarding Aya.

Though you can get it by opening relic packs from Syndicates or the Steel Honors shop.

So you pile up aya, then when Zylok relics go up in Resurgence, you buy some with Aya and then open them as you normally would.

warframe.market's also an option. That'll require some purchased plat (or plat received in a trade from someone else)

[vestal drum]

or trade with the playerbase for the last item you need

icestorm hates the playerbase 😉

[brave python]

I get it mainly on deimos Contracts

[pearl quest]

market looks like the best place, not too expensive but yeah I'll need to do some trading

[lofty garden]

The game has no easy "barter" system, so trading with the playerbase typically means wading into trade chat, and that's a nasty chat.

plat's the universal way to deal with trading.

[brave python]

IceStorm You seem quite experienced, could you tell me the best f2p way to get platinum?

[vestal drum]

relics + factions items imo

[brave python]

I usually sell prime parts or i do resell

[lofty garden]

Nah, I bought mny plat. I'm not one to ask about how to make it via trading.

[vestal drum]

The real money to be made is in things people don't want to do (or can't do).
i.e. taking kavat scans.
Those things go for like 20 plat each

[amber trench]

best plat method:
Get Discipline's Merit from Alchemy every run

[still birch]

Anyone else still having the emissive color bug?

[patent mason]

who decided it was okay for vauban prime to cost 7k oxium to build

[leaden obsidian]

DE, but that’s not the fun part, how does 4 gold parts sound

[patent mason]

I already got them parts

But cmon now, 7k oxium is crazy

[leaden obsidian]

Welcome to warframe

[vestal drum]

out of context? probably
in context? idk, i wasn't there.

Gotta remember each warframe is a snapshot in time. (more or less)

as someone who only started playing recently, i've had to grind my butt off for mats.
My friend, who's been playing since forever has an endless supply of like everything not new

years from now people will say 250 harrow chassis blueprints for a title is insane.

[leaden obsidian]

I’m still grinding for old resources(mostly argon)but I’m not struggling with anything

[vestal drum]

My argon tip, do an arbitration in the void. Drops like waterfalls.
I got 22 just the other day

[leaden obsidian]

Nah I’m alright, I don’t use it often enough to keep a big stockpile of it

[vestal drum]

me either, i just used it to buy the title 🙂

i was after the arbitration, not the crystals

[leaden obsidian]

Ah

I’ve stopped grinding arbis, I don’t need anything from it

[vestal drum]

its my one hope for a useful riven.
There are like 5 archguns, the odds of my getting something for one i own are high 🙂

so far, no luck 🙁

[leaden obsidian]

Oof

I haven’t thought about the archgun rivens

[lofty garden]

regular perita is 10 marks…

[coarse comet]

help

[leaden obsidian]

My citrine build is almost done, just waiting for reave

[lofty garden]

whichever you want.

[coarse comet]

okok

[leaden obsidian]

Cryotic

[coarse comet]

[patent valve]

Very surprised Pablo didn't saw the afk with persistence coming???

[vestal drum]

well, this is what blows my mind.
How can you design and develop such a feature without realizing the implications.
Makes me feel like the DE don't really play the game

[junior verge]

uriel minions bugged in circuit?

[lofty garden]

he does have a new cat…

[vestal drum]

I liken it to MTG.
Back when the game was brand new, wotc frequently put out game breaking cards.
Which is understandable, because the game was sort of still forming.
But eventually they brought those down to a rounding error.

[patent valve]

I'm pretending, the arcane effect gets disabled once you don't move anymore would totally solved the problem

[vestal drum]

idk, i think you underestimate the amount of effort people are willing to put into, not putting any effort into something.
There never will be a perfect solution, imo.

[patent valve]

Ok? Not sure how you gonna ignore moving around while being afk?

[vestal drum]

simple botted input to move forward an inch
mouse shakers
people have their means

[lofty garden]

two more alerts and the operation will be complete

[vestal drum]

i grant you 1 alert.

[grave tapir]

ok so I played Rhino for a while but have not used any potatoes or forma on him yet, so my question is which one should i do first?

[obsidian aspen]

Forma. Potatoes are one-time and more valuable

you can easily get more Forma

[grave tapir]

thx

[leaden obsidian]

Get prime, then potato and forma

[quartz fulcrum]

Anyone else having trouble trading because it says there offline

[leaden obsidian]

We need a primed orokin reactor and catalyst, gives potato and all slots are omni formad automatically but are extremely rare and expensive(like 5 of the corresponding potato, 20 forma, 10 umbral, 5 million credits)

[autumn pilot]

why cant i find a thumper in the planes of eidolon???

[obsidian aspen]

They only spawn at daytime

[autumn pilot]

it day for me

[lofty garden]

they are around

[fringe agate]

wheres the best place to level at

like the definitive best spot for ranking stuff up

[obsidian aspen]

(Elite) Sanctuary Onslaught

[fringe agate]

sorry, where is this

[obsidian aspen]

any relay, Cephalon Simaris hosts it

[fringe agate]

alright preciate it

[stiff minnow]

Do people still trade Kuva Ephemras?

[obsidian aspen]

the ephemeras themselves cannot be traded, but converted adversaries can (and yes, those are very much still traded)

[fringe agate]

how is it good for grinding if you need to be rank 30 plus forma

am i tripping

[obsidian aspen]

the parentheses I used for a reason

(Elite) Sanctuary Onslaught

[fringe agate]

ohhh its for weapons only?

[obsidian aspen]

regular SO for frames, ESO for weapons

[fringe agate]

oh i see thanks

[stiff minnow]

I got a converted Cibajj raa Nukor Vengeful flame ephemra but I dont know how to access my lich

[obsidian aspen]

Codex -> Universe -> Adversaries -> Kuva Liches

[stiff minnow]

Oooh I got it, need a crimson branch to trade the lich

This right?

Thats what is traded

[obsidian aspen]

If they're Converted, yes

[stiff minnow]

They are converted

[onyx wren]

oohoo

[visual swan]

[zinc stump]

what’s up with on-call bein disabled for normal missions now?

[copper adder]

yeah arcane persistence kinda strong with regen hp tank builds

[onyx wren]

Iirc it was disabled for Old Peace but bugged and disabled for everything

[zinc stump]

dern, hope it gets fixed in the future, i miss my buddy packet ;~;

[wind wraith]

I'll trade my love and affection + sevagoth main bp trust (evil scam noise)

[nimble otter]

what if the indifference isnt dead just one with the void what if the indifference is the tenno...what if WE are that indifference but fromt the past or the present

[obsidian aspen]

Why would it be dead in the first place. Where is that even remotely suggested

[onyx wren]

What

[wind wraith]

Im feeling really indifferent towards this theory

[onyx wren]

Also
Shouldn't that go in #spoiler-chat or #lore-discussion

[nimble otter]

oop thank u

[neat lily]

why is the hunhullus fight so bugged? every time it goes to archwing im sucked outside the map and killed then respawn in my frame and die. is it my fault?

[lofty garden]

Run it solo

[vestal drum]

used to happen to me every fight.
At first i thought it was my archwing.
switching to odanata seemed to fix it, until it didn't.
Now i just stand still after the 2nd phase and keep my fingers crossed.

[lofty garden]

Woot! Operation all finished

[lament walrus]

Already have all the new stuff from the event. Did a couple alerts and 1 run of all 3 Perita missions.

[lament walrus]

Can't. The commandeered frames overscale to the point you can't kill one in the entire 12 min solo.

[lofty garden]

Don't run SP.

[solid timber]

how do i build up uriels meter faster

[lament walrus]

That's on Normal

Scaling is messed up. Randomly either paper or immortal

[lofty garden]

Well, I have all five artifacts, and I did it all solo.

I was generating 18-20 mats per run, and clearing each run in ~13min.

Felarx and Unairu. And the fastest boss to clear was the commandeered warframes.

I built my Felarx around Shotgun Vendetta. Shoot people in the face, stack multishot and reload speed.

[vestal drum]

he's not talking about the bosses, he's talking about the ones you encounter roaming...i think

[lofty garden]

Those are tissue paper.

[vestal drum]

"Randomly either paper or immortal "

[lofty garden]

Grapple for void buff, dead.

no, I ran it post-hotfix, there was no difference in performance.

[vestal drum]

i'm not aruging with you, i'm telling you what he's saying.

[solid timber]

how do i build up uriels meter faster?? pls

[obsidian aspen]

Your devils' abilities build it mainly

[leaden obsidian]

Health tank citrine is fun

[strong vigil]

so, i would have sevagoth and yareli prime, if i wansnt in the middle of New War

not like i can actually build them yet anyways

[strange kettle]

Reporting back, I went from 150 agnos per run to 400 on normal, 500 on steel

[uncut badge]

Is there a vendor to buy focus lenses from?

[karmic surge]

Whats the best way to level amps?

[lofty garden]

Bird 3 sells fully built Eidolon lenses for Cavia standing.

[vestal drum]

cavia standing too hard to get to waste on a lens

[lofty garden]

Farm Apollo, Lua for a bit and you'll get Lua lens BPs you can use to upgrade those to Lua lenses.

Cavia standing is trivial.

The alternative is trying to get an Eidolon lens BP from open world bounties, which is stupidly hard.

[vestal drum]

Do railjack missions.
Infinite affinity range.
Go into operator mode before getting into a gun seat, free amp affinity from the entire mission

[uncut badge]

Any survival/defense mission that give bonus affinity, + bonus affinity on [Insert weapon type] kills, along with using an afinity booster

Or railjack

[sonic smelt]

Terrible advice , do onslaught

[uncut badge]

Thank you, completely forgot abt them

[lofty garden]

SO/ESO require you to stay within affinity range. The arenas are too big, and the people who stay to round eight too few.

[vestal drum]

Hex is trivial.
Cavia is one of thr grindiest.

[sonic smelt]

You dont know what you're talking about

[lofty garden]

Cetus is grindy. Cavia is easy. The Murmur are tissue paper on SP. Just run SP bounties and gather medallions.

[vestal drum]

Exactly the point, you can ONLY turn in medallions, and you don't get alot.

cetus is trivial.

[lofty garden]

Fishonachi has bounties you run for standing...

You may be thinking of a different syndicate/faction.

[vestal drum]

maybe

[lofty garden]

Entrati is tokens, but mom tokens are pretty easy to get.

[vestal drum]

yeah, mom tokens on SP are easy money

maybe i'm thinking of holdfast

[lofty garden]

Holdfast you get widgets for doing the bounties which you can turn in for standing, but they were a decent amount, worth what the bounties would normally be, with SP being even greater rewards.

[karmic surge]

In my experience they are right. Those missing aren't great for levelling anything

[sonic smelt]

Then you're doing it wrong, or just bad.

[karmic surge]

I think that's uncalled for. Duviri and railjack are definitely best levelling for general equipment, i just wasn't sure if it'd be good for amps

[lofty garden]

In SO/ESO, you have to either use the weapon (if solo), or you have to stay within affinity range of whoever is nuking. If you glue yourself to the squad, you can pull it off, but since people like to bail out after on or two rounds, you end up wasting a lot of time.

[sonic smelt]

I've maxed out things in a few rounds, not sure what you guys are doing

[lofty garden]

Getting to round three in public is nothing short of a miracle.

[sonic smelt]

You just start up another one......

[karmic surge]

Thats fine, but you shouldn't immediately say someones wrong or bad because they can't

[vestal drum]

I run it solo and level things quick.
And running it in a group, if people bail, i just keep going

[finite lily]

yo how tf do you beat comandeered protea prime

every time i get it to half health it regens its entire bar

[lofty garden]

Ok, so goes back to wasting time between sessions. In railjack, they're locked in the room with you and they cannot get out of affinity range.

[vestal drum]

kill it in one hit?

[sonic smelt]

It may not be nice, or hurt your feelings, but im correct

[lofty garden]

Oh, that's Protea being fresh.

Gotta zap protea's healing thingy.

[karmic surge]

No, your really not. Your way is a way. Not the only way. And whats nice is how you answered and are with the people who are genuinely trying to give advice and be friendly about it. You are not

[distant island]

So how do we charge the Tauron strike? Is it charged by gaining focus? Or just getting kills in general

[violet swan]

which do i pick

also wheres the riven spreadsheet

[sonic smelt]

Bad advice, maybe

[vestal drum]

why would you not take the one on the left?

[karmic surge]

I think both, but the kills help even more if you have a lens with the corresponding focus school in a weapon or frame

[distant island]

Noted

[vestal drum]

The real question is, do you have to gain focus for the school in question, or any school.

[strong vigil]

i see why its in a cave now

[karmic surge]

Its not bad advice, it is good advice, you just don't agree with it. And thats fine. Doesn't give you any right to say everyone is wrong just because their methods are different than yours and arguably much better since those missions are better for levelling than your method

[distant island]

To me it makes sense it would be the specific school you have active for your specific chosen weapon

[karmic surge]

Not 100% sure but I'd assume it has to be the school that is linked to your tauron strike

[vestal drum]

indeed.
Probably needs testing.....or clarification from DE cough cough

[distant island]

Indeed brothers, indeed.

[lofty garden]

Focus school is not supposed to matter, nor does the quality of the lens.

[distant island]

Both false

[lofty garden]

Are yout talking about charging a tauron strike, or something else?

[distant island]

If the school didn’t matter, I feel like you wouldn’t need to unlock the specific school to get the specific weapon

[sonic smelt]

ESO is well known as a superior leveling method among above average players. You are just bad

[lofty garden]

This is what is written on the mods.

[distant island]

Mods and focus are two different things my brother

[lofty garden]

The artifacts are locked to your focus school, so you can't, say, equip unairu and then run the sword.

Ok, but the mod is how you boost charge rate.

[karmic surge]

Thats your opinion I guess. I honestly don't have the energy to argue with someone who can't understand the opinion of others. I'm gonna play warframe my way and have fun doing it

[distant island]

Right so it would stand to reason you would need to charge unairu focus to use unairu weapon**

[sonic smelt]

You do you, Boo

[lofty garden]

According to DE, having lenses on everything is supposed to boost charge rate, regardless of school or quality (that's in the original patch notes).

Right now, I don't think the focus system is charging properly, period.

[strong vigil]

i lowK see why ppl like the drifter ngl, my operater was eh, but my drifter

[distant island]

Could be

[distant island]

I made mine look like NBA Youngboy

[finite lily]

??

[lofty garden]

I ran a couple of the new alerts and saw no convergence orbs. I ran others, got convergence orbs. Sometimes, I get no charge from picking up a convergence orb, other times I get 20%, other times I get 40-75%. It's just not stable enough to test at this time.

[distant island]

I didn’t know a convergence or was a thing

[lofty garden]

And a lot of these behaviors are observed solo, so it's not down to host.

that's the technical name for the yellow or blue fuzzy you pick up when you see the focus school icon on the map

[sonic smelt]

If your referring to the quest, shoot her orb thingies to stop her from healing

[lofty garden]

Protea will leave behind a green cardbord cutout with a target over it when she's "immortal". Shoot that.

[distant island]

Ohh ok ok

I never knew the name

[finite lily]

no in perita rebellion

[finite lily]

i am but it doesn't die

idk what im doing wrong

she finishes reviving hear health before i can kill it

[terse pagoda]

if i use inaros with his elemental sandstorm augment and a melee with the right elements, can it proc the archon mods?

[lofty garden]

Hmm... you may need more damage. Usually one hit from Felarx took down the cutout.

[finite lily]

can i melee it

[vestal drum]

i melee everything, personally

[lofty garden]

Someone mentioned using Valkyr, so probably?

[finite lily]

i mean my vinquibus one shots like lvl 200 units but for some reason when i shoot the protea afterimage with it it does nothing

is it damage gated or something

[lofty garden]

Not that I recall.

[finite lily]

man

what am i doing wrong

[sonic smelt]

Play in public with a squad

[lofty garden]

I did clear the SP mode once, and used my same loadout, Felarx and Lato Vandal Incarnon.

[finite lily]

i hate doing this

makes the game boring

[lofty garden]

Eh, jiust play regular instead of SP.

[finite lily]

this was in regular btw

[lofty garden]

Oh... she never had a chance in regular. She was dead in less than a second.

[sonic smelt]

If you can't do it in regular and wont play pub not sure what to tell you

[violet swan]

do valence fusions replace the current valence or jsut adds anouther valence

[lofty garden]

I ran an R4 Shotgun Vendetta setup with Felarx in regular.

Valence fusion, you choose the element to retain.

[teal spear]

How to win in magnacidium

[finite lily]

bro i play EDA solo and am fine thats why this is confusing lol

[lofty garden]

which focus school did you choose?

[finite lily]

zenurik

[lofty garden]

I was using Unairu for the impact damage buff.

[sonic smelt]

Latest update may have messed up with scaling

[violet swan]

what frame do yall usually run with a shorothrix

[finite lily]

how so

[lofty garden]

Try running madurai?

25% damage buff to primary/secondary and 25% fire rate per completed objective.

[finite lily]

hmmm

alr will do

[sonic smelt]

Not sure they've adjusted the damage attenuation on the bosses already on SP maybe they did on regular as well? Check the patch notes

[vapid iris]

It was peak 🫡

[distant island]

It only takes like four focus bubbles to charge the Tauron strike but imo it’s kinda goofy cause it’s four total but the circle mostly fills with just three so why not make it just three

[lofty garden]

it should take five

sometimes it takes two

sometimes it doesn't charge at all

Sometimes it shows you the wrong strike in the icon...

[distant island]

Ngl that would make it pretty much pointless

[lofty garden]

I believe somewhere it was written that a convergence orb should provide +20%.

But it's also supposed to boost charge rate for 45 seconds...

I wouldn't draw any conclusions until running a bunch of missions solo/public with the same loadout to see the variations in behavior.

[distant island]

I just used my strike, took four bubbles.

[lofty garden]

you would think so, if you got 20% focus from other sources. Right now, though, I see no reason to doubt you even if you didn't generate any focus from other sources. I saw it charge a strike from around 55-60% to 100% with a single focus pick-up. I also saw it never charge when picking up focus, and never generating focus pick-ups.

[distant island]

Yellow bubble does more, blue does 10%

[obsidian ridge]

Is anyone else having issues with steam?

[lofty garden]

Supposedly, it is supposed to be the opposite 🙂

It's Tuesday, so...

I have picked up blues and gotten ~20%.

[distant island]

Ohh it’s blue cause I reached my focus cap

Kinda bunk ngl, that it charges the strike less

[vestal drum]

i've noticed a bug where it doesn't even begin to charge unless i first go into operator mode.
It wasn't like that before and it might be fixed now

[quiet timber]

Hey guys I was just wondering does the game still calculate crit chance modifiers after 600% because I’m getting told two different things and I would like to know

[fervent moth]

It always has and still does

It's just not visual

[tulip magnet]

maybe way, way back...

[quiet timber]

My friends are calling. Me stupid because it’s not a dev saying it

[vestal drum]

that avatar makes me think of a web comic i used to read

the ferret one

[fervent moth]

They can just go in game and test it themselves... Harrow exists

[tulip magnet]

yeah, before U13.5, the Nami Solo update

[quiet timber]

They refuse to listen to anyone that ist a dev …

[fervent moth]

The wiki is offically endorsed by the devs so they can stay stupid

[vestal drum]

considering the majority of the information about the game seems to be community sourced....

[quiet timber]

Because I have over 1000 crit chance on my dual tox incarnon cuz I use harrow and have a good riven and other buffs they are saying it’s useless to have that much

[lofty garden]

Just go into simulacrum and test it?

[tulip magnet]

...in this case directly from official patch notes

[vestal drum]

Well, all you have to do to disprove them is just bring it down to 600, then bump it back u p

[lofty garden]

Not like the gun generates an infinite amount of foam blocks...

[tulip magnet]

well at that point you can probably gain more dps by investing in other stats

[quiet timber]

They are hard refusing yall now

[tulip magnet]

not that it matters, considering the weapon

[vestal drum]

Just prove them wrong

you literally have the setup

[quiet timber]

They won’t listen they are stupid 😭

And I’m at work 😔

[vestal drum]

so reverse the burden.
Have them prove there is a cap

[true kayak]

Build 300 strength on kullervo

It’s that simple

[orchid mist]

It's not the game failing to calculate it, it's because of a special little thing called Diminishing Returns, Primed Bane of Builds™

The higher you stack your Critical Chance, the less powerful each individual tier of critical hit will feel compared to the last
A weapon with 2.0x Critical Damage will correctly do double damage on a critical hit, but on a Big Critical Hit, it will only have an effective multiplier of 3.0x, making that crit do only 50% more damage than previously; a Super Critical Hit will have a multiplier of 4.0x, being only 33% higher than the Big Critical Hit, and so on and so forth

Investing too much in any one particular stat will start to weaken the effects over time, which is why we often say to avoid stacking too much of any one thing without external effects, most notably Harrow ignoring the stacking of Critical Chance because he just gives you an additional two tiers of crit for free

[vestal drum]

There is no diminsihing return here.
Each tier increased the multiple by the same amount

[true kayak]

There is diminishing returns

[quiet timber]

My riven gives me like 200 crit chance and 190 crit damage

[true kayak]

Crit damage is (arsenal value-1)*crit tier +1

[vestal drum]

That's not a diminishing return.

[true kayak]

So if you have 2x crit damage, an orange crit will do 3x damage

That’s diminishing returns

[vestal drum]

its not.

[true kayak]

2/1=2
3/2=1.5

[quiet timber]

I wanna ping a dev but I don’t want to be rude 😭 because they are hard refusing everything

[true kayak]

That’s diminishing returns

[vestal drum]

It literally goes 1x -> 2x -> 3x -> 4x -> 5x ....

[violet swan]

hey is there a reason why my sporothrix only has 1 zoom options

[true kayak]

Yes

Diminishing returns

[orchid mist]

it's a proportionally weakening benefit from further investment, which is the literal definition of a diminishing return

[vestal drum]

that's not diminishing returns

[true kayak]

You get less effective increase in damage

[vestal drum]

it stays exactly the same effectiveness

armor is a diminishing return

[vale falcon]

Look towards the percentage difference between each tier, it gets smaller between each, that's diminishing returns

[tulip magnet]

2x times the previous tier, 1.5x, 1.33x, 1.25x....

[orchid mist]

the same control number of 2.0x crit damage

Non-crit -> Crit is a 100% increase in damage (2/1)
Crit -> Big Crit is a 50% increase in damage (3/2)
Big Crit -> Super Crit is a 33% increase in damage (4/3)

this is a diminishing return in a nutshell, I do not know how else I can explain it to you

[vestal drum]

That's because you're looking at it wrong. You're trying to compare it to final damage.
It would be a diminishing return if each tier it was harder and harder to get to the next tier

[violet swan]

which is better?

[vestal drum]

it takes exactly the same amount of +crit to go from tier 2 to tier 3

[tulip magnet]

well maybe you're looking at armor wrong

[true kayak]

And you get less of a benefit, or return from it

Because it’s diminished

[tulip magnet]

every 300 armor is +100% EHP

at 300, 600 etc. you get 2x, 3x...

[quiet timber]

@round gorge hello I’m super sorry to ping you but I was just wondering does the game still calculate crit chance modifiers after 600% my friends refuse to listen to me unless a dev says it

[tulip magnet]

show them the patch notes

[daring parrot]

dude just check the wiki

[quiet timber]

I have and they are still saying it’s capped

Because it doesn’t show going about 600%

[vale falcon]

I would say go with the left one, that'd be the one I'd slot in my own build (innate viral + modded blast)

[daring parrot]

so the wiki says you are wrong ?

[vestal drum]

and it says armor is not, so i stand corrected on that

[hidden whale]

u can always test in simulacrum

[tulip magnet]

it's the same though

[daring parrot]

what

[hidden whale]

hacked?

[daring parrot]

idk what it even was

[vale falcon]

Wiki page shows this for crit, the ... implies that it would go further than the 600%

[daring parrot]

oh cool

[tulip magnet]

linear scaling of dps / ehp means it becomes more effective to invest in other multipliers past a certain point

[vestal drum]

bruh, you're compromised.
Should check your passwords or something

not sure why i was targeted though

[daring parrot]

also is this ai you are asking

[compact dew]

wasnt old peace meant to bring back wall running?

[vestal drum]

obviously

[vale falcon]

Delayed to next year

Don't trust ai with warframe, it gets stuff wrong more on this game compared to degree level maths

[vestal drum]

i'm well aware, but the question was pretty simple

and its not like the topic has changed with recent patches

[leaden obsidian]

Titanfall 2 in warframe??

[hidden whale]

stacking crit chance causes deminshing return on ur dmg but i think hes right. CC as a stat does not give less crit per % u put in

[vestal drum]

i feel like warframe had wall running a long time ago

[hidden whale]

while armor does have that