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#gameplay-discussion
fervent moth
strong vigil
Merulina is the one that can be used in normal missions
good to know
time to figure out how to get that one
nvm frame specific
sad
maiden granite
I have malignant force and 1 extra high voltage. Im not on though
pearl parcel
isnt high voltage the rifle one
maiden granite
I believe so. It was running for 70p
pearl parcel
i need to get the shotgun ones
frail moth
Hey guys, How do I change the Simulacrum environment? Everytime I visit Simaris it does not give me an option to change the setting
silk canopy
You have to buy them from different vendors or from players
pearl parcel
delicate meteor
Merulina is the one that can be used in normal missions
disadvantage is that it is ginormous 💔
strong vigil
disadvantage is that it is ginormous 💔
and frame specific 🥀
leaden obsidian
true kayak
and frame specific 🥀
And unmoddable
Gets a lot of the most important things to mod for by default though
strong vigil
And unmoddable
Gets a lot of the most important things to mod for by default tho...
eh, but getting the frame is prob annoying
true kayak
Prime is unvaulted right now
The normal requires doing an annoying quest, but if you get a kdrive before doing it, it’s a lot easier
daring parrot
And unmoddable
Gets a lot of the most important things to mod for by default tho...
even worse, I can't even put the k drive velocipod skin on it
misty orchid
Can someone help me get nokko?
daring parrot
Can someone help me get nokko?
public matchmaking should still have plenty of players, are you not getting any?
strong vigil
whats a nokko
strong vigil
ah
do you buy frames from people?
as i can get some blueprints, but for some i cant
strong vigil
whats the best melee frame, that i could obtain without spending money? or hours of my life
median topaz
Half the frames have you buy the blueprint from the market or the dojo
median topaz
The other half are farmed alongside their parts
median topaz
whats the best melee frame, that i could obtain without spending money? or hours...
Probably Valkyr
She drops from the Jupiter boss
strong vigil
ah, gotta get to jupiter first
strong vigil
She drops from the Jupiter boss
it rare?
median topaz
Naw
None of the boss drops are rare
Their parts all drop with a 33% chance basically
sacred ferry
hey uh i just came back to the game after a big break (I quit before plains came) and was wondering if the stuff from back then are still relevant now
strong vigil
i see 2
median topaz
Good weapons are still good, but modding has completely changed
sacred ferry
prime is just a better version
strong vigil
ah
sacred ferry
but harder to get
median topaz
Prime is a better version you need to farm different stuff for
Or buy from other players
strong vigil
does the boss drop them both but ones rarer?
sacred ferry
Good weapons are still good, but modding has completely changed
modding as in what mods you equip or
strong vigil
Or buy from other players
rip
median topaz
No
ALL prime Warframes drop from "void relic" missions
But the parts are tradeable
sacred ferry
oh god relic farming
strong vigil
well its prob expensive, or just a really long time till i get to farming it so ill do the normal one and go for jupiter
the materiels are prob expensive though
sacred ferry
for old old frames i dont think they will be expensive
median topaz
There are exceptions like VAUBAN PRIME
strong vigil
yeah i have like no resources lmao
sacred ferry
captain does the red crit aaterax thing still exist
median topaz
no lol
sacred ferry
rip.....
strong vigil
any clue how i get the stuff for this
median topaz
you don't
median topaz
Quite seriously, it comes from content no one does anymore
So the parts sell for a lot
strong vigil
but it exist?
median topaz
if you buy from other players
sacred ferry
also is there any thing worth getting in the hunter levels or ranks. im at hunter 13 right now
median topaz
hunter levels???
strong vigil
Quite seriously, it comes from content no one does anymore
does the content still exist or was it removed
sacred ferry
hunter levels???
yea like the tigris prime is locked behind rank 13 or something?
strong vigil
so i can get it without trading players
strong vigil
better than trading with ppl, prob overpriced as shit
median topaz
yea like the tigris prime is locked behind rank 13 or something?
oh yeah actually, the highest MR lock is 17 now
sacred ferry
is there anything worth getting
median topaz
So you know how Tenno weapons have primes?
Grineer, Corpus and Infestation have their own versions
And their weapons can rank up to 40
sacred ferry
so a tigris has prime and grineer corpus etc?
strong vigil
any clue how i get the stuff for this
where do i find them? as the orokin cell tells me its locations but the other 3 dont
sacred ferry
i remember tigris prime back then was top tier
median topaz
No no, but there's a Kuva Hek and a Kuva Sobek
no one runs Tigris anymore, got lapped years ago
sacred ferry
RIP
median topaz
yeah kinda sad, I have a riven for it
median topaz
where do i find them? as the orokin cell tells me its locations but the other 3 ...
you don't have it unlocked
it's... well, not late game anymore, but much further in
strong vigil
but where is it? even if i dont have it unlocked
median topaz
It's a spoiler
median topaz
Oh wait no I was thinking of another ship
strong vigil
i wanna change this lame ahh pancake
leaden obsidian
any clue how i get the stuff for this
median topaz
xiphos parts drop from the sabotage mission caches
strong vigil
and the ship ai is kidna buggy and freaky
median topaz
oh that doesn't change
just the thing you see during the load screen
your ship interior is the same no matter what
strong vigil
i see different ships when squad doing missions
median topaz
right
sacred ferry
isnt it pure cosmetic only?
sacred ferry
whats that
onyx wren
there's a bonus power you unlock
Does the default not have one
leaden obsidian
An ability each ship gets, you need charges in your gear wheel to use, xiphos is a sentry gun
strong vigil
sounds awsome
median topaz
whats that
like I said, a bonus power
strong vigil
so the void
median topaz
Does the default not have one
The default is probably the second best
Because it cancels alarms
onyx wren
Really?
sacred ferry
like I said, a bonus power
well what does it do
onyx wren
Oh
Oh yeahhhh
median topaz
so if you screw up a spy vault it can stop that
onyx wren
well what does it do
Each one has its own one
median topaz
not in sortie though
onyx wren
so if you screw up a spy vault it can stop that
Oh shit really? I never realized that
leaden obsidian
well what does it do
Sentry gun, kinda self explanatory
sacred ferry
Sentry gun, kinda self explanatory
like permanently when in the mission or it is like an activate
median topaz
short activation
leaden obsidian
I’d assume doesn’t last long
sacred ferry
oh thats cool
median topaz
oh nevermind
onyx wren
Only regular spy vaults
Useful for grinding Ivara ig
leaden obsidian
Idk what kind of damage it does or whatnot
median topaz
It lasts a while but it's locked to level 30
so it's good on the first half of the star chart and then useless
onyx wren
Damn
sacred ferry
is there a tierlist for primary secondary etc?
median topaz
They changed basically everything about the damage and enemy defense systems
Kinda yes?
daring parrot
oh yeah there's only one type of armor now too
median topaz
Your modding matters a lot
Like, my friend went through the game's hard mode with the Mk-1 weapons to prove he could
sacred ferry
i have a mesa and the 4 ability is modded with all status + multishot is that irrelevant now
median topaz
Yes, until you get the galvanized mods
sacred ferry
galavanized mods huh
median topaz
rainbow builds fell off hard, without "Condition Overload" (boosts damage for every different status on an enemy)
There are versions for guns
sacred ferry
what about modding frames is that all changed too or no
sacred ferry
i quit before plains
daring parrot
when was shield gating introduced?
median topaz
alongside Railjack apparently
seems late ngl
anyway, so for you not much has changed
strong vigil
bro wheres this goddamn hive
median topaz
There's a mod called Rolling Guard that makes you invincible and clears debuffs
strong vigil
bro wheres this goddamn hive
ive searched this entire thing
sacred ferry
There's a mod called Rolling Guard that makes you invincible and clears debuffs
isnt that broken
oak root
it has a cooldown
sacred ferry
7s cooldown at max rank too
median topaz
No, because it's absolutely gorram essential when enemies do millions of damage per bullet
oak root
I mean warframe has way too many broken things
sacred ferry
fair
oak root
but I feel rolling guard is more effort, invis or rev is way more broken
sacred ferry
whats rev
median topaz
Revenant's getting nerfed someday
A Warframe
Straight up has an invincibility power
oak root
revenant is a character that makes this game creative mode
median topaz
He's also tied for absolutely most boring Warframe in the game
oak root
yup
sacred ferry
good to know so i dont even try to farm him
median topaz
which is a shame because his kit's cool and interesting but everyone plays him to turn off the rest of the game
oak root
I feel like he is not that boring unless he is the only frame you built for
median topaz
I mean you should get him, he's design's sick af
sacred ferry
is octavia still relevant? i really liked her
median topaz
Always has been
sacred ferry
ayyyyy
oak root
when u need to chill and just kill stuff for fun he is good
median topaz
I used her to cheese the endgame murder sortie like four hours ago
Got like 300 kills in two minutes
sacred ferry
niceeeee
median topaz
People also say that Octavia is overpowered and unfun, and they're right about the first but wrong about the second
Also you missed Octavia Prime
sacred ferry
missed as in i can never get or
sacred ferry
i can still farm for her right?
median topaz
Vaulted
sacred ferry
damn
median topaz
YEARS ago lol
sacred ferry
is rhino prime still vaulted
median topaz
yup
sacred ferry
oh cool i have him
median topaz
Every prime frame available now is based on a Warframe that came out four years after you left
Oh speaking of Warframes that came out after you left
sacred ferry
so primes for recent frames
median topaz
They made a Warframe that's fused with a Sentient
sacred ferry
whats a sentient again
median topaz
Remember Lotus's evil dad
sacred ferry
oh is lotus the pretty purple lady who talks to you
sacred ferry
omg wait is that one enemy still around that you have to kill for the weapon named broken war
sacred ferry
i really wanted the war weapon but i could never find him
sacred ferry
okkkk
strong vigil
does vaulted stuff ever come back?
median topaz
The Orokin got jumped by these "aliens" called the Sentients
strong vigil
or its just gone gone
sacred ferry
very rarely
sturdy widget
does vaulted stuff ever come back?
im pretty sure it works like seasons
sacred ferry
And the Warframes were made to fight them
lore!
strong vigil
so cycles
sturdy widget
yeah
median topaz
or its just gone gone
The only perma vaulted thing is Excalibur Prime and his weapons
sturdy widget
The only perma vaulted thing is Excalibur Prime and his weapons
yes this
median topaz
Lato Prime and Skana Prime and Excalibur Prime are never-ever
oak root
Wish there was a way to get them
median topaz
Everything else rotates
.....once a month
strong vigil
The only perma vaulted thing is Excalibur Prime and his weapons
oh, the one im maining
median topaz
I mean Excalibur Prime is the worst prime by a lot lol
bitter wind
Add level cap gamemode
sacred ferry
Everything else rotates
.....once a month
even octavia?
sturdy widget
oh, the one im maining
that's respect
median topaz
even octavia?
yup!
oak root
When soulframe came out instantly got founder so I didint feel the same as excal prime
sacred ferry
well i know what ima farm for
strong vigil
that's respect
whys that
sacred ferry
excal is an og frame
median topaz
In about a week the new "Prime Resurgence" starts
median topaz
And it's going to have SIX primes at once
sacred ferry
do you know which ones
median topaz
Mesa, Volt, Ember, Ash, Protea, Caliban
sturdy widget
I'm copping protea prime
strong vigil
rarest frame in the game
i love excal, sucks ill never get his prime
strong vigil
like?
median topaz
MUCH better
oak root
Doubt they would ever release it would piss a lot of people off
strong vigil
bruh
median topaz
Caliban is where the cool stuff is
sturdy widget
i love excal, sucks ill never get his prime
u can buy an account with excal prime 
strong vigil
u can buy an account with excal prime <:RebSmug:865249259847024680>
nah
sturdy widget
thats cool as
median topaz
he's super fun, can summon friends like Nekros
sacred ferry
all players who logged into WARFRAME between October 2nd to October 16, 2024 received a free Caliban Warframe complete
strong vigil
u can buy an account with excal prime <:RebSmug:865249259847024680>
if its perma gone accounts with it are prob couple thousand
sacred ferry
i sure missed alot
median topaz
Oh right remember Revenant?
sturdy widget
if its perma gone accounts with it are prob couple thousand
$4,500 😭
strong vigil
knew it
sacred ferry
theres no voice channels here right
median topaz
not anymore
tranquil kayak
Who's next in line for a rework again?
sacred ferry
i would like someone to take a look at my stuff but ill ask for that later
tranquil kayak
Like I mean, what's currently the worst frame in the game? Loki? Qorvex?
median topaz
They mentioned being aware that people wanted Banshee, Loki and Chroma
tranquil kayak
Ah yeah Chroma
median topaz
Loki probably
sacred ferry
whats wrong with banshee
i remember defend(?) missions and bashee just sits and kills whole map
sacred ferry
sighhhhh
median topaz
the rest of her abilities are solid
sacred ferry
what about loki and chroma
median topaz
Loki's gameplay style just doesn't exist anymore
He's got a bunch of control abilties that don't do a lot of control
sacred ferry
power creeped?
sacred ferry
so aoe ability wins all
median topaz
And his abilities don't help shoot or handle the horde
tender perch
He's a warframed designed purely for one specific aspect of the game. And that aspect has fallen out of the game's meta
median topaz
Chroma meanwhile has just ended up clunky
oak root
Apparently his decoys allow lvl cap defense or something heard from someone here
strong vigil
melee for the win, cant get power creeped if all you do is swing a sharp metal stick
median topaz
yeah about that lol
sacred ferry
i miss red crit aaterax
tender perch
Chroma meanwhile has just ended up clunky
He's too clunky for how less effective he is compared to other frames
median topaz
He still has two of the best buffs in the game
The problem is that his other two abilities do nothing
tender perch
melee for the win, cant get power creeped if all you do is swing a sharp metal s...
Melee fell out of favor for a while before they got Galvanized. So you kinda CAN get power crepped
median topaz
I suppose he is super good for cred farming kek
strong vigil
Melee fell out of favor for a while before they got Galvanized. So you kinda CAN...
whats galvanized
median topaz
well, they did confirm that he ripped apart a Sentient dragon and wears it as a hat so I'm sure he'll come back eventually
tender perch
He still has two of the best buffs in the game
Vex armor isn't really that good. Its damage buff falls short compared to Eclipse and Roar, both of which are infinitely easier to obtain
Especially since its buff is only additive
median topaz
Vex armor isn't really that good. Its damage buff falls short compared to Eclips...
run the augment that lets kills charge it up
tender perch
run the augment that lets kills charge it up
That still makes it less viable than Roar and Eclipse.
median topaz
Right, which is where Elemental Ward comes in
tender perch
Not saying its bad, but it being not as good as those two and them ALSO having a build up requirement is what makes Chroma really niche
median topaz
particularly the cold buff
tender perch
Elemental Ward isn't bad, it just kinda needs more imo
Armor isn't really good for Steel Path. The damage reflect is interesting, but it also is kinda janky as well
Can't really make a build around that
median topaz
oh, it's out of date
the last time they touched him (besides nerfs I mean) is before the affinity range rework
they always make time to nerf Chroma tho' lol
tender perch
He's a frame with 2 useless abilities and 2 "meh" abilities. Only being kept afloat by niche credit farming methods
median topaz
like there was a bug that let you shoot while spectral scream was active and they fixed that
tender perch
Well- I wouldn't say "niche' he gets me 1mil credits every 5 minutes but
median topaz
but they haven't fixed the bugs with EW not applying to companions and summons
tender perch
You'll need to equip it in your equipment slot outside of the mission first
tender perch
You can get a fishing rod from one of the vendors
median topaz
All equipment works like that
strong vigil
it gives me a spear, then makes me leave to use it
median topaz
Did you get it before the mission?
tender perch
Yes, but WHEN did you get the spear
median topaz
Right, did they assign the mission in or out of the Necralisk
tender perch
While in the mission or before?
strong vigil
i picked it up while in the mission
worthy comet
Right, did they assign the mission in or out of the Necralisk
Oh this is for the heart of Deimos quest
It's not a bounty
median topaz
Right I can tell that much
tender perch
i picked it up while in the mission
Then you should be able to equip it and use it
median topaz
But it's been over five years since I ran the mission
strong vigil
the mission is ongoing, it told me to pick up the spear(in which it provided) to complete the mission
tender perch
If not, then thats actually ass
worthy comet
Likely a bug
strong vigil
bruh
tender perch
Probably a bug
median topaz
That or you had to tap and not hold
tender perch
Yeah, try tapping
worthy comet
Try leaving and coming back
strong vigil
Yeah, try tapping
i do, and it just pulls up the gear circle for half a sec
median topaz
Ladies and gentlemen and Temple I give you Bugframe
strong vigil
and i dont wanna abort and restart the entire mission
tranquil kayak
i miss red crit aaterax
Kullervo:
median topaz
Oh true lol
The Kullervo Warframe can guarantee red crits on melee for like 40 seconds
I use minimum duration and max range instead
tranquil kayak
Personal favourite of mine is putting it on Chromatic Blade + Furious Javelin Excalibur
vernal mulch
Yknow what'd be cool
Prime Protoframes
median topaz
They're already talking about getting prime details on the protos
vernal mulch
Yknow what'd be cool
Prime Protoframes
I love Protoframes but I love the Prime look more
median topaz
So, happening
strong vigil
nah not worth it
strong vigil
wait i cant just leave the game
tranquil kayak
Personally I'd settle for being able to put the Proto head on any skin
vernal mulch
Personally I'd settle for being able to put the Proto head on any skin
Thatd be pretty cursed for Heirlooms
median topaz
hahahahaha
tranquil kayak
Thatd be pretty cursed for Heirlooms
Let them customise
median topaz
Good Lord 
vernal mulch
Personally I'd settle for being able to put the Proto head on any skin
Maybe some skins
Not... all of them
worthy comet
nah not worth it
Why not just re enter the necralisk
median topaz
What's the reverse of let them cook
strong vigil
i did
vernal mulch
What's the reverse of let them cook
"Lock the kitchen"
median topaz
"Lock the kitchen"
Yes that 
Anyway I need to go back to bullying my FF14 loving friend into trying Warframe
vernal mulch
Anyway I can see the Nemesis skins being good ones to mix with Protos
strong vigil
Did you enter the door
yes
median topaz
They're adding Emet-Selch as a character
worthy comet
Anyway I need to go back to bullying my FF14 loving friend into trying Warframe
Based
vernal mulch
Anyway I can see the Nemesis skins being good ones to mix with Protos
Turning Arthur into Armstrong
Wait
They're not all Nemesis
Forgot about that
worthy comet
They're adding Emet-Selch as a character
7.4 launching 6 days after the old peace is kinda funny, like they really think I'll be done with everything by then
strong vigil
there we go
median topaz
lol no kidding
vernal mulch
Turning Arthur into Armstrong
Proto-Armor Excalibur with Arthur's head
worthy comet
Idk bout other ppl but for me no way
median topaz
I'm still in Stormblood but I'm not going to resub until February or something
median topaz
And I might wait until the "new ARR" to see if the classes start playing differently
strong vigil
Oh also we were robbed of this
whats it actually look like
median topaz
Oh it looks like that
strong vigil
so then how were you robed
median topaz
But it's a China-exclusive thing
strong vigil
ah
median topaz
So no one anywhere else ever had a chance to get it
strong vigil
what even is it
worthy comet
Looks like if umbra got its own dex helmet
median topaz
Excalibur Umbra Prime
vernal mulch
median topaz
Basically a second Excalibur Prime for China
wheat mirage
Where is the best cave fishing spot in the Orb Vallis?
vernal mulch
With exclusive armor it looks like
median topaz
Oh, it's because originally the Chinese players had their own version of Warframe completely disconnected from the rest of the world
That went away after two years and they kept their exclusive stuff in the global version
vernal mulch
strong vigil
oh if thats what excal prime looks like then i see the appeal
as its this but 10x better
median topaz
But that's why Wukong, Nezha and the the Chinese named weapons like Zhuge exist
strong vigil
nvm
worthy comet
Regular excal prime is uhh
strong vigil
he ugly
median topaz
Yeah Excalibur Prime is a terrible prime
vernal mulch
It was the first Prime
worthy comet
It exists
median topaz
Literally just made so people could get something for their donation to support the game
vernal mulch
Umbra looks way better
But Prime has a look you can't get much anywhere else
median topaz
That's also why I said not to feel bad about no Excalibur Prime
It's literally just a nose ring
strong vigil
thought excal prime was gonna be some sick ass thing, this is sad looking
median topaz
None of the early primes are good looking
vernal mulch
Side profile
median topaz
Trinity Prime is the first good design
vernal mulch
thought excal prime was gonna be some sick ass thing, this is sad looking
Have you seen Mag Prime
None of the first ones were good
median topaz
siiiigh
vernal mulch
Mag Prime's greatest achievement is being the body of Nira
strong vigil
what should i do
strong vigil
aw
median topaz
There's choices that matter later in the game
worthy comet
Me after finishing building nova prime: "good thing I got that 75% discount"
strong vigil
There's choices that matter later in the game
so i dont gotta worry about that now
median topaz
Hey now I like Nova Prime
vernal mulch
Nova Prime is a good design
worthy comet
Hey now I like Nova Prime
It's eh imo
vernal mulch
Nova Corpra is just her best skin tho
median topaz
Pretty sure I have an alt helmet on tho'
median topaz
so i dont gotta worry about that now
Yeah, but what the later decisions mean is another question entirely......
median topaz
lol I'm just messing with you
vernal mulch
Whats a frame that you love the look of but just can't play
Mine is Equinox
She needs a rework
median topaz
Mesa Prime
worthy comet
Whats a frame that you love the look of but just can't play
Xaku, they're fine but I hate standing still
median topaz
I know she's technically good but do I want to play her? Not at all.
vernal mulch
Why are you standing still as Xaku?
worthy comet
You mostly stay in the armor stripping zone right
vernal mulch
Does it not follow you?
median topaz
no
worthy comet
Nope it's centered on enemies
median topaz
Because you lock an enemy into the power as the center of the zone
vernal mulch
Ohhhh
worthy comet
So it gets reapplied to allow movement or you just sit tight
tranquil kayak
You mostly stay in the armor stripping zone right
Xaku strips armour?
worthy comet
Yup
vernal mulch
See uhh
I use Caliban
median topaz
Gaze does it yeah
vernal mulch
Standing still would kill me
median topaz
LMAO
tranquil kayak
I don't like switching through cycling abilities
median topaz
that's why Nourish is the best ability in the game now
vernal mulch
The Caliban loop is spinning and letting the sentients kill them while I go spin at another group
tranquil kayak
Very rarely do I use Vauban's Overdriver ball, though that's also partially because it's so clunky and doesn't work half the time
It should affect every ally in its range not just one person
vernal mulch
Whats next on the rework chopping block now that Oberon is good?
quaint brook
Whats next on the rework chopping block now that Oberon is good?
loki
tranquil kayak
Whats next on the rework chopping block now that Oberon is good?
Possibly Loki
vernal mulch
Haven't they said they cant really do anything to Loki
worthy comet
Weren't ppl clamoring for a chroma rework for a while
tranquil kayak
Imagine if Loki stole enemy guns and used them for himself
median topaz
so, Xaku
tranquil kayak
Like just steal the Grakata from a Grineer Lancer
vernal mulch
Imagine if Loki stole enemy guns and used them for himself
Yeah thats just Xaku
quaint brook
Haven't they said they cant really do anything to Loki
since when?
tranquil kayak
True
vernal mulch
since when?
I remember Pablo saying reworking Loki would be hard cuz hes got such a specific vibe
Like what can you do to make Loki better while still keeping his current playstyle
tranquil kayak
since when?
Probably because Loki fans are psychopaths lmfao
quaint brook
I remember Pablo saying reworking Loki would be hard cuz hes got such a specific...
I say merge decoy and invis together, make room for another ability
vernal mulch
All the recent reworks (except Inaros I think) have been refreshes of their og kit
quaint brook
All the recent reworks (except Inaros I think) have been refreshes of their og k...
inaros was also a refresh of the og
median topaz
Nah, Inaros becoming cat man was new
median topaz
Nova was changed by making Blast good and making all her abilities blast
vernal mulch
Sadly we will never get an Equinox rework because 6 abilities
worthy comet
Hmm, what if Loki had an exalted staff that fired energy bolts that dealt damage and teleported enemies to random spots in a given radius, feels in character at least
tranquil kayak
I say merge decoy and invis together, make room for another ability
Inb4 they give his abilities Radiation status lmao
vernal mulch
Nova was changed by making Blast good and making all her abilities blast
Don't forget the Slova and Speedva merge
median topaz
and that yeah
tranquil kayak
Another Arcane Universal Fallout frame
On that topic, I love Qorvex Fused Crucible
median topaz
Inb4 they give his abilities Radiation status lmao
that is actually one of the augments for his 4 lol
vernal mulch
Don't forget the Slova and Speedva merge
Best qol they've ever done with a Frame ngl
placid turtle
I hope the eventual Chroma rework doesn't touch the 4 money buff
tranquil kayak
Idk if it has a name but "Infinite Crucible"
vernal mulch
Itll be a good while before Chroma gets a rework
quaint brook
the pattern is "remake warframe for present sandbox"
vernal mulch
The pattern is basically what the community says
worthy comet
Another Warframe that looks cool but I'd probably hate to play would be baruuk, not a fan of the reliance on enemy density for maximum restraint economy
vernal mulch
Same update I believe
placid turtle
Sounds right yeah
median topaz
Baruuk actually plays great
vernal mulch
Inaros was the first of the 'new' reworks
median topaz
Just turn off the exalted when enemies aren't around
placid turtle
I'd like another skin for him. Not a huge fan of Doan's vibe.
worthy comet
Hmm guess I'll give it another shot sometime
median topaz
Inaros was 2024?
Hm, that is before Caliban
But you know didn't Zephyr get work around Angels?
vernal mulch
Hydroid rework was 34.0 (Dagath)
median topaz
That's when she got the hover
sacred ferry
is there a specific syndicate i should be pledging to
vernal mulch
is there a specific syndicate i should be pledging to
Depends what frames you want augments for
placid turtle
is there a specific syndicate i should be pledging to
Each has augment mods for different Warframes
median topaz
Zephyr got reworked in 29.10
sacred ferry
oh its frame dependent now huh
median topaz
So she's the earliest
placid turtle
There is an overlap though
median topaz
oh its frame dependent now huh
no not at all
All of the frames get their augments put in two of the six syndicates
placid turtle
is there a specific syndicate i should be pledging to
worthy comet
oh its frame dependent now huh
Different syndicates sell augment mods for different frames at max rank
vernal mulch
Zephyr got reworked in 29.10
Yeah but like
Theres a difference in vibe between the Zephyr and Hydroid reworks
Also the sheer length between them
sacred ferry
thanks all
placid turtle
It's also possible to be at maximum rank with 4 of those syndicates at a time
median topaz
mmmmmm not really!
vernal mulch
Hydroid was when Pablo sat down and said "let's refresh these old frames"
placid turtle
Oh, definitely a balancing act
median topaz
I'm looking at the patch notes and they gave her """flight""" lol
worthy comet
It's also possible to be at maximum rank with 4 of those syndicates at a time
All 6 if you're a maniac
placid turtle
All 6 if you're a maniac
Don't think that's physically possible unfortunately
worthy comet
Don't think that's physically possible unfortunately
Nah someone pulled it off
median topaz
but also changed three of her abilities and buffed her passive
worthy comet
Lemme find it
median topaz
and yeah they managed a perfect balancing act but can't actually pledge anymore without falling off the wagon
vernal mulch
Hmm
Maybe
median topaz
but I remember the video of him sitting down and going through the changes
vernal mulch
The gap between it all just doesnt seem very reasonable to say its a pattern
worthy comet
Don't think that's physically possible unfortunately
It's really complex but they managed
vernal mulch
29.0 to 34.0 is over a year of a gap
And then you get another at 35.5
Then 37
And so on
Yareli mightve gotten one between all that
Or something like a rework
Trinity and Nyx got theirs in 38.0
median topaz
Mirage Eclipse & Prism Changes
Gara Passive Change
Nourish Helminth Change
Loki Ability Changes
Yareli Ability Changes```Yeah just noticed that
Not a full rework
Just changes
spiral marsh
i forget about this but if I abort mission, do i loose progress even if i completed challenges like this?
vernal mulch
Waaait a second
I misread somewhere
29.0 was Tempestaari
median topaz
nope
median topaz
Oh, Ember in U36
vernal mulch
No wonder I didn't remember the Zephyr rework
median topaz
Jade Shadows eh
vernal mulch
I started in 30
median topaz
Frost AND Ember
sacred ferry
which frame can use mushrooms(?) and kills stuff
vernal mulch
which frame can use mushrooms(?) and kills stuff
Nokko (the new one)
median topaz
And rolls
median topaz
Also he was originally going to be the younger brother of another Warframe
The Sk8ter Grrl frame, Yareli
vernal mulch
Yeah Yareli
Magical girl
radiant hare
vernal mulch
He just randomly summons her in one of his idles
If you have Yareli Prime it should summon the Prime
Thatd be cool
median topaz
Nokko Prime should do that
vernal mulch
That'll be a while
median topaz
Also it should match your Yareli's customization
vernal mulch
Im thinking about how they messed up the Prime order for a while
Not sure why they did that
median topaz
The prime order's changed at least twice before
They're not as married to it as we are
daring parrot
Also he was originally going to be the younger brother of another Warframe
wasn't that just a decision made by the animation team
vernal mulch
median topaz
vernal mulch
Yeah but its a recent thing
median topaz
like I said, the pattern is just a pattern
vernal mulch
It was specifically the Xaku and Lavos thing that boggled my mind
median topaz
Not a rule
If they wanted to they could put out Nokko Prime after Gyre
It'd be badwrong but they could do it
daring parrot
I want them to release a frame that only has a prime version at one point
vernal mulch
I want them to release a frame that only has a prime version at one point
Wait for them to release Stalker
Then we'll get a Stalker Prime
daring parrot
Baby prime
vernal mulch
They keep making Frames that dont make sense for Primes
Xaku amd Caliban being my biggest example
daring parrot
did you watch tennocon
vernal mulch
This year's?
daring parrot
yes
vernal mulch
Nah I had work
daring parrot
not even a video recording?
vernal mulch
I caught bits and pieces of it
I mostly showed up for Caliban Prime and the Old Peace reveal
compact sable
They keep making Frames that dont make sense for Primes
imo its probably because they changed their mind at some point re: the canonicity of primes
strong vigil
this guy good?
daring parrot
this guy good?
yeah xaku is awesome
vernal mulch
this guy good?
Thats 3 mfs and yes theyre good
sacred ferry
do you still get hunter rank progression from leveling multiple of the same weapon
median topaz
no?
strong vigil
ill grind for him tomrrow
daring parrot
mastery rank*? also no
median topaz
ill grind for him tomrrow
ah, no, Xaku is a bit special
You need stuff from the other open worlds
vernal mulch
ill grind for him tomrrow
Them please
sacred ferry
no?
e.g. i have two tigris in my iventory but i only get the mastery for leveling one right?
strong vigil
Them please
how is there 3?
strong vigil
You need stuff from the other open worlds
other open worlds?
vernal mulch
how is there 3?
Xaku is the reformed remains of 3 broken Warframes
compact sable
xaku grind is so ass just go for the prime tbh
median topaz
Yeah you can't build Xaku
strong vigil
Xaku is the reformed remains of 3 broken Warframes
which ones?
median topaz
we don't know
vernal mulch
which ones?
They're unnamed
strong vigil
boring
median topaz
They were destroyed before we got them
strong vigil
which ones does it look like
median topaz
None that we have
compact sable
yeah ngl thats my big issue with xaku's design
vernal mulch
Anyway you gotta get Solaris rank 5 before getting Xaku
median topaz
Xaku is the second community designed Warframe
compact sable
it doesn't really sell the idea of xaku being 3 frames in design or gameplay
median topaz
The concept was "broken and reforged"
strong vigil
sounds like a lot of work
median topaz
So, three Warframes in the backstory went into the Void and were trapped.
vernal mulch
it doesn't really sell the idea of xaku being 3 frames in design or gameplay
They lean into the void aspect more than anything
median topaz
And then their pieces got up, fused together, and escaped
vernal mulch
They do a fine job of the Void bit
The 'three Warframes' less so
compact sable
yeah imo the issue is that there arent any extraneous parts
xaku doesnt look like 3 people, they look more like one person with prosthetics or grafts or something
median topaz
Technically correct
compact sable
more godrick the golden than pinwheel yk
vernal mulch
I'd like if they buffed Xata's
vernal mulch
I'd like if they buffed Xata's
Because nobody uses it over Roar
median topaz
Xaku's "real" body might be the skeleton underneath
Basically wearing the armor from the three frames on top
strong vigil
Anyway you gotta get Solaris rank 5 before getting Xaku
ig ill do that tomorrow
vernal mulch
yeah imo the issue is that there arent any extraneous parts
All of it's extraneous since the skeleton is its own thing
median topaz
ig ill do that tomorrow
hahaha no it's time gated
strong vigil
bruuuh
median topaz
It'll take you a few months
vernal mulch
ig ill do that tomorrow
Nah mate just farm for Xaku Prime
You'll have to get Solaris rank 5 anyway but still
compact sable
its not immediately obvious
strong vigil
It'll take you a few months
-_-
compact sable
if i were ceo of de, i think the way id do it is to make them have three heads
vernal mulch
It'll take you a few months
Months is a bit much
Itll take like a week and a half at least
compact sable
like maybe one on the chest, one floating behind the main head
median topaz
They're actually new
strong vigil
Nah mate just farm for Xaku Prime
You'll have to get Solaris rank 5 anyway but s...
i dont have its blueprint
median topaz
Their mastery level is 2 at best
compact sable
that's very identifiable as 'three people' kinda like how voruna is identifiable as being a pack due to the skulls
median topaz
they wouldn't do that
vernal mulch
if i were ceo of de, i think the way id do it is to make them have three heads
Ngl I wouldn't like that
median topaz
Would break the rigging
placid turtle
They're not 3 people anyways, they're now one
median topaz
same reason Voruna doesn't run on all fours
compact sable
cus otherwise the logic is a bit weird, esp if the idea is that the skeleton is the 'real' xaku
life if i get a heart transplant or whatever, that doesnt make me two people
vernal mulch
same reason Voruna doesn't run on all fours
Yeah but she should for the ability
median topaz
They already said why she won't
strong vigil
well looking at zaku, the majority of it looks like that pale one
compact sable
Would break the rigging
it wouldnt break the rigging if the extra heads didnt move
strong vigil
aswell as the head, so its 1 frame and the one thats the head is the main one
vernal mulch
life if i get a heart transplant or whatever, that doesnt make me two people
Xaku is a new person made from 3
They arent any of the 3 Frames theyre made uo of
They're a completely new entity
median topaz
like, the idea is to not have to come up with an entirely new skeleton for every Warframe
And yes exactly
vernal mulch
yeah the problem is that the design doesnt sell that
Then what's the Skeleton thing do
compact sable
the skeleton is probably the biggest offender in why it doesnt sell that lol
vernal mulch
??
median topaz
you ever read Frankenstein?
compact sable
because it makes it seem like the skeleton is the one true contigous xaku
median topaz
The monster is made from different body parts
vernal mulch
because it makes it seem like the skeleton is the one true contigous xaku
Because it is 😭
compact sable
yeah, frankenstein is not pluriform
he doesnt identify as all the people his parts came from
compact sable
he identifies as a singular person
strong vigil
so if zaku is 3 frames, is zaku prime that one frame being a prime, or all 3 frames being primes and its 3 primes together
vernal mulch
I think Xaku's pronouns are a matter of grammar rules more than anything
Since they didnt have an Operator originally
compact sable
dont think too hard about the prime ig 😭
strong vigil
dont think too hard about the prime ig 😭
im thinking hard about the prime
quaint brook
so if zaku is 3 frames, is zaku prime that one frame being a prime, or all 3 fra...
xaku prime is more likely to be a design upgrade off from the base design, instead of kitbashing primes of the base's constituents
median topaz
Secondly, Xaku Prime is probably the Entrati upgrading it
vernal mulch
Yeah the Prime is why we practice Eternalism here
median topaz
nah nah
strong vigil
xaku prime is more likely to be a design upgrade off from the base design, inste...
so its the combination of the 3 frames becoming a prime together
median topaz
It's got the Entrati aesthetic
quaint brook
Since they didnt have an Operator originally
eh, we dont actually have any info if Xaku base never had an operator
median topaz
They took Xaku and pretified it
quaint brook
so its the combination of the 3 frames becoming a prime together
er not what Im saying
its like say gundam build fighters
median topaz
to fit in with the Imperium corpse god Entrati aesthetic
vernal mulch
eh, we dont actually have any info if Xaku base never had an operator
Prime Warframes had operators
Xaku Prime is a mess
strong vigil
anyways sounds like xaxu's a lot of work so prob not worth it
compact sable
get the prime tldr
median topaz
Correct
strong vigil
how do i get the prime??? i got the normal one
vernal mulch
to fit in with the ~~Imperium~~ ~~corpse god~~ Entrati aesthetic
If they tried for the Entrati look they shouldve used more black
median topaz
think of Xaku as a long term goal
compact sable
from relics
quaint brook
you kitbash a model kit together, and now suddenly p-bandai sells it as a premium full kit
compact sable
xaku is in rotation so the parts will be in relics that you might have already
vernal mulch
anyways sounds like xaxu's a lot of work so prob not worth it
Xaku has a very unique playstyle but like ehhhh
quaint brook
Prime Warframes had operators
Xaku Prime is a mess
I disagree, theres a butt load of room for Xaku prime to have an operator
strong vigil
also, how do i get valkyr/valkyr prime
median topaz
Jupiter
strong vigil
Xaku has a very unique playstyle but like ehhhh
how so
compact sable
all primes are from relics
median topaz
And void relics
quaint brook
also, how do i get valkyr/valkyr prime
how do you feel about space piracy
strong vigil
how do you feel about space piracy
im all for it ig
quaint brook
im all for it ig
load up your railjack and- oh you dont have a railjack huh
strong vigil
Its a very particular style
You have essentially 6 abilities
thats 2 more than normal no?
median topaz
yeeeeep
strong vigil
load up your railjack and- oh you dont have a railjack huh
bruh
vernal mulch
thats 2 more than normal no?
Yep
Because one cycles through 3 different effects
compact sable
ngl xaku's playstyle is not really that complex, its usual weapon platform shenanigans
median topaz
thats 2 more than normal no?
one of them is a rotation between three abilities
vernal mulch
ngl xaku's playstyle is not really that complex, its usual weapon platform shena...
Mmmm I love weapon platforms
strong vigil
median topaz
There are several Warframes that work similarly
strong vigil
how do i get a railjack
median topaz
Advance the main story
strong vigil
sigh'
compact sable
their 3 does that cycle thing but its not the hardest thing in the world to understand once you remember what all 3 abilities do
vernal mulch
All this Xaku talk makes me wanna go get Xaku Prime
median topaz
fam, you want to be powerful and cool, put the work in
vernal mulch
Just after I finished properly building Umbra too
compact sable
if you type xaku in the search bar on your relic thing
median topaz
Like I said
compact sable
then all the relics that have xaku parts will show
strong vigil
whole lot o nothin
vernal mulch
but none of whatever this is
Void Traces
You get them from opening relics
oak root
xaxu
median topaz
From another player I mean
vernal mulch
whole lot o nothin
You put two x's in there
quaint brook
whole lot o nothin
thats uh, cuz you spelt it wrong lol
strong vigil
Void Traces
You get them from opening relics
nvm lmfao
median topaz
you should be able to get Xaku for 40-50 platinum
strong vigil
you should be able to get Xaku for 40-50 platinum
i think i got that
median topaz
did you pay for that platinum?
strong vigil
how would i get more without spending $?
median topaz
You cannot trade your starting plat
strong vigil
aw
median topaz
you either pay or sell things yourself
quaint brook
aw
lol remind me later, I might have extra xaku relics/parts I can offload to you for the low price of a fish
oak root
wait for the 50-75% coupon and swipe the card 🙂
strong vigil
lol remind me later, I might have extra xaku relics/parts I can offload to you f...
i-i-i dont even think i have a fish
median topaz
yeah that's my recommendation
quaint brook
i-i-i dont even think i have a fish
and if you dont have a fish then a random item of your choice
like literally anything that allows you to trade
median topaz
again, you're talking to an actual new player
oak root
only if u enjoy the game enough and have enough income to justify it
median topaz
They're not going to be able to crack a Neo, much less an axi
quaint brook
again, you're talking to an actual new player
surely theyre MR2 with 2fa done
strong vigil
oh nvm i got one
quaint brook
They're not going to be able to crack a Neo, much less an axi
then they better hope I have the parts for them
vernal mulch
Howd they get to Deimos at mr2
quaint brook
otherwise its ducat food
vernal mulch
I was at least mr4 by that point iirc
median topaz
Howd they get to Deimos at mr2
when people talk about making the new player experience easier, they meant it
Early game is theme park territory now
strong vigil
strong vigil
lmao
vernal mulch
????????
median topaz
MR1s can't trade
strong vigil
i finished the jupiter junction so ill do that tomorrow
vernal mulch
Go build Rhino and Frost
strong vigil
Go build Rhino and Frost
im building rhino lmao
compact sable
oh youre new new, huh
strong vigil
oh youre new new, huh
yeah...
strong vigil
yeah it does
vernal mulch
i finished the jupiter junction so ill do that tomorrow
median topaz
I just found out yesterday
strong vigil
by that reaction it appears you guys dont have a map of this solar system
median topaz
this is why you're getting people in Hollvania who don't know how to do exterminates
strong vigil
so theres more
quaint brook
oh jesus lol
oh Jesus indeed
vernal mulch
by that reaction it appears you guys dont have a map of this solar system
Back in my day we had to go all the way around the sun
strong vigil
what sun
median topaz
if you don't know what the sun looks like
vernal mulch
strong vigil
oh theres not a solid ball there
median topaz
lol
strong vigil
just like a weird gassy sphere
vernal mulch
There will be
Thats a later quest though
median topaz
oh god since it's coming up
vernal mulch
Nah nah nah
median topaz
There is a quest called Duviri Paradox
quaint brook
wait is that not how the sun looks like normally on the star chart?
strong vigil
why not
median topaz
Save it for after the quest The New War
strong vigil
what if i dont
median topaz
you get locked into an alternate game mode for a few hours that isn't very Warframe-like
quaint brook
then we'll see you in #lore-discussion when you inevitably have questions on what just happened
median topaz
And yes that
strong vigil
f-few hours...?
median topaz
Yeah
compact sable
you can exit the game to leave it actually
you have to do the duviri paradox at some point so do it if you want
strong vigil
its still there
median topaz
The Duviri Paradox is very fun and enjoyable AFTER you understand the setting and story
median topaz
its still there
but it's not MANDATORY for you
vernal mulch
It was for us..
median topaz
It was for everyone who started more than two months ago
strong vigil
also why does the asteroid "belt" surround only ceres instead of being an actual belt
median topaz
because the Star Chart isn't an accurate depiction of the solar system
strong vigil
this map is all sorts of wonk
median topaz
it's more a spiral
vernal mulch
this map is all sorts of wonk
Are you not gonna question the Void
strong vigil
i mean its out of the way away from everything
median topaz
in-game it helps to understand that the junctions are teleporting you
quaint brook
Anyway we had to go through that big asteroid belt
lol I like how there's two nodes they shouldnt be seeing just yet
vernal mulch
Anyway we had to go through that big asteroid belt
Actually what the heck is 'sanctuary'
median topaz
i mean its out of the way away from everything
so why are there three paths there 😏
strong vigil
4
median topaz
Actually what the heck is 'sanctuary'
oh, that's a dev version of the map
vernal mulch
Interesting
median topaz
Right, 4, I always think the 2nd and 3rd branches link
Sanctuary is their fast link to... Simaris?
strong vigil
whats the lore on why deimos is a liquified infected planet skull
median topaz
Infestation
strong vigil
t-thats it?
vernal mulch
t-thats it?
That 'liquid' is a living mass of flesh
strong vigil
oh
vernal mulch
And it's spores
median topaz
By the end the planet was completely uninhabitable
And the Orokin called it a good trade
vernal mulch
By the end the planet was completely uninhabitable
(Except not really)
quaint brook
t-thats it?
well, in short yes,
In slightly longer, some folks in a desperate time of war decided to broken arrow themselves with a bio-bomb
median topaz
The survivors lived in those ocean cities
median topaz
well no the infestation was contained
vernal mulch
On Earth
median topaz
Until the Orokin decided to use it as a bioweapon
vernal mulch
Greed
median topaz
It didn't work great
During the Old War we purged entire cities
And it was worth it when we didn't have to go farther
strong vigil
cant be too far in the future as all the continents(as i can see) still line up with current day positions
vernal mulch
We dont know the exact time period cuz the orokin burnt all the documents
median topaz
Also the Orokin terraformed Venus
vernal mulch
If youve been to Fortuna youve seen that firsthand
median topaz
moving the continents is literally child's play
strong vigil
i mean i can clearly make out africa, the saudi arabian peninsula, india, indonesia etc
median topaz
yes
vernal mulch
Also the Orokin terraformed *Venus*
I think the big part of this is that you can breath the air on Venus
strong vigil
although the clouds cover europe
median topaz
If the Orokin wanted to reform pangaea they could
It would take a while, but they could do it
strong vigil
I think the big part of this is that you can breath the air on Venus
i mean venus and earth are pretty similar
sister planets with a different fate
vernal mulch
i mean venus and earth are pretty similar
Venus is a frozen wasteland with massive fungal colonies on it in WF
And it used to be...
Venus
strong vigil
talking about actual
vernal mulch
The toxic rain and horrid temperatures Venus
strong vigil
well, similar sizes, similar compositions, the only difference is that venus is closer, has days that are longer than years, and has toxic gas and acid rain
although venus doesnt have a moon
strong vigil
Regardless they made it able to be lived on
it would be too close so it would need a very thick and reflective atmosphere
median topaz
and when they stopped maintaining the climate controls it froze the planet
and it'll keep doing it until the sun explodes
strong vigil
yeah its weird, earth looks burnt while the closer planet is frozen
median topaz
point is, the Orokin could do basically anything
vernal mulch
yeah its weird, earth looks burnt while the closer planet is frozen
Nuclear war
median topaz
moving continents isn't hard for them
strong vigil
still burnt
vernal mulch
point is, the Orokin could do basically anything
Except save themselves
Which makes it scary how strong we are
median topaz
Well. Time and place.
vernal mulch
still burnt
OH also the Grineer mass burn forests
median topaz
oh true yeah, Grineer
strong vigil
yeah makes sense, the sahara looks to have expanded and pushed the forest even further down
median topaz
The Orokin didn't care to rebuild Earth's biosphere themselves
vernal mulch
And the survivors dont have the tech to do anything for it
median topaz
One scientist initiated a project to get it done, and it mostly worked
but again, no active hand at the wheel means it didn't work perfectly
median topaz
And now the Grineer use it to practice salted earth tactics
vernal mulch
Sedna doesnt have any land nodes
Whats that about
strong vigil
im off to bed
median topaz
Oh, Eris? Being eaten by the infestation
vernal mulch
Well yeah
But so is Deimos
median topaz
The Cambion Drift is a safe zone
The two big worms blowing each other up means the infestation is much more contained
strong vigil
lmao
vernal mulch
Fair