gameplay-discussion

[leaden obsidian]

I don’t, I think I have +cc on it

Either positive cc or reload, lemme doubke check

Nvm it’s +tox and cd

[red path]

I mean final stats, -1.2% cc

[frail tree]

how the hell

[red path]

riven is -50something%, and evo gives flat -10% cc

so without any flat cc buffs like harrow, I get laetum that never crits

[frail tree]

zamn

[red path]

you need over 50% negative cc in riven

[frail tree]

yeah did another like, 60k or so kuva

nothing better than that

im gonna let it go, that level of minmaxxing is a little too much for me

[red path]

I just got lucky, I think I rolled like 30 times

[frail tree]

definitely

[red path]

I just had tons of kuva from buying and not using it every week from iron wake

[frail tree]

its still crazy that I even got a laetum riven in the first place, im happy

[red path]

I still have 2.5k riven slivers

[frail tree]

time to use it like, 4 times total, loll

[red path]

once you get used to it, you will be using it for any difficult content, and be super happy when it appears in eda/eta for example

[frail tree]

I use it when I dont feel like using my nukor usually

[mossy grove]

Voidrig or Bonewidow? Also any voidrig builds? thanks

[warped parcel]

Voidrig is imo significantly better than Bonewidow, but they are both quite fun to use and both work everywhere they're applicable so your choice

[red path]

voidrig is usually better, bonewidow exalted may be fun but it's not as good as voidrig's and have slow firing rate

[mossy grove]

ok thanks any builds I should check ?

[red path]

idk, there is a ton of slots and even with 5 forma you may still be in need of more capacity

one thing I really like for necramech is jump height, it really makes using mech a lot easier

[willow bluff]

I never even bothered to check bonewidow's abilities

I'm guilty. Gotta see the wiki.

[leaden obsidian]

Ah

[red path]

it's some grab and throw mobs, shield, forgot 3rd one, exalted blade gun

[tender perch]

Subpar mech

It has way more aura though

[red path]

there is just too little archmelee mods applicable to the ironbride

[leaden obsidian]

Archmelee also sucks still

[red path]

it does fire projectiles on heavy attack, similar to tenet agendus

if archmelee had mod selection similar to normal melee it would be op

[willow bluff]

Oh shit heat & blast melee

This combo doesn't make sense

Cool mech but that's it

[leaden obsidian]

We don’t have a blast mod, like magnetic and rad

[sterile fossil]

Got as far as the vallis elevator

[red path]

only good thing is innate 100% followthrough, have some little use in orphix, if you ever be doing it

[sterile fossil]

Took forever but we did it bois

[willow bluff]

Then there's Fluctus

[south girder]

@raven robin Bonewidow slander

[tiny dragon]

Crafting wise, voidrig

[raven robin]

in big 2025...

[winged nexus]

does anyone here keep crashing in open world

i lose all my tags AGAIN

I HATE CONSERVATION

[south girder]

Mine gems

[tiny dragon]

Is it by any chance your machine?

[frail tree]

5 forma 💔

[south girder]

Consider: everything saves if you complete a bounty

Or start one!

(I think)

[warm mountain]

mornin peeps, ive been away from the game for a good 4 years now. just getting back into it. what is the meta endo farm? steel path still?

[frail tree]

oh hey I got another basmu riven. hope these things gain a little value next nightwave

[raven robin]

for what specifcially? bonewidow is usually better for necramech things

[red path]

arbitrations, or any of the new bounties: hollvania or deepmines

[warm mountain]

i vaguely remember arbitrations, but the bounties im not familiar with

[twilit radish]

[winged nexus]

it only crashes in open world. It would just freeze up and it normally would not do that even on opem world

[south girder]

I think so
Although you can also farm orokin tower rare crates if you want to fo that

[tiny dragon]

Right

[red path]

because it's new content, deepmines is out for just a week

[tiny dragon]

Youre sure it isnt your PC?

Or whatever youre on

[south girder]

Wouldn’t have been around for 1999 either i think

[warm mountain]

what are deepmines?

[red path]

check latest update highlights

[warm mountain]

oh they are that recent?

[red path]

basically new mission to farm nokko

[winged nexus]

what would i even diagnose that could come from my pc? saying it on my end is not really helpful. I have latest drivers. My specs are up to par.

[warm mountain]

awesome ill do some research, thank you 🙂

[red path]

latest drivers not mean stable drivers, but it may be some recent problem with update

[tiny dragon]

It is helpful, if you've been on PC for a while then you should know how to check your GPU/CPU temperatures.
Crashing is either corrupted files, which you may be able to repair by using the repair function in the launcher or more likely your hardware overheating and throttling, which can lead to loss of previously available resources and hence programs crashing

Theres a million more possible reasons, but these are the first ones to check

[red path]

I use msi afterburner to monitor my stuff stats

[tiny dragon]

Great call, MSI Afterburner CoreTemp, SpeedFan, etc.

[red path]

can also try aida, especailly voltage part, if you have problems with PSU, bugs can happen on heavy load, like in open worlds

windows stock resmon can also be used to check your disk drive

I had crashes once because of bad sata wire, my ssd was at 100% queue with just 100 KB/s load

[red path]

don't just show 💩 chat without a spoiler and warning, I have it disabled for a reason

[winged nexus]

well thank you at least providing the steps to check. I would say that for next time, do not assume that people would have reasonable computer knowledge to know that to be user error.

[winged nexus]

I straight up would not even look at chat. It is full of degenency beyond the mind's comprehension.

[cloud creek]

Does is feel like enemies' status effects hit harder now for anyone else?

[red path]

no, didn't feel any different

[nova perch]

If the dude who AFKed half of my friend and I's run in Deep Archimedea is in here, I hope you step on a Lego.

[south girder]

I don’t think they’d remember that even if they were here

[nova perch]

I hope they remember five minutes ago.

[tiny dragon]

Imma be honest with you, it isnt reasonable computer knowledge. Opening your Taskmanager wouldnt be that either, its like knowing that your car needs diesel.
Thats my opinion anyways. Ill keep that in mind tho

[nova perch]

If not, well that does explain a lot....

[south epoch]

hello

[tiny dragon]

Whats up gamer

[red path]

9/10 of problems with PC is power supply

[south epoch]

heh. True. I'll never get lower than a gold or platinum ever again. Spend the money it's worth it.

[warm mountain]

just overclock your powersupply

[red path]

that is hardware problems tho, it can be just a bug in the game

[tiny dragon]

Biggest thing for me was undervolting my GPU actually

[winged nexus]

you will be surprise that is not really common knowledge among people. Most people would just buy a new pc (likely a prebuilt).

[tiny dragon]

Its been running 8 years now, a 1080 running at more than a 1080 TI but with less power

[stiff horizon]

If I imbued Lavos' Ophidian Bite with heat damage from his 4th ability would the heat replace the base toxin damage Ophidian applies or would they fuse into gas

[tiny dragon]

Afaik it does neither, it would do Toxin and Heat

[stiff horizon]

So two seperate status applications?

[tiny dragon]

Afaik yeah, but AST might know more

[willow bluff]

Good subsume options for garuda if I already rely on shield gate?

[red path]

not really, people thinking of pc as black box is pretty common

[willow bluff]

They don't fuse
They don't replace
It inflicts both heat and toxin

[stiff horizon]

So two seperate staus applications then?

[willow bluff]

Yes

[stiff horizon]

Interesting, tysm

[winged nexus]

what is your second layer of defense?

[south epoch]

I just want my next pc to put off very little heat or to have some sort of ventilation setup to shoot it out of my house xD. But then I guess I would have moisture problems in my pc..

[willow bluff]

Invulnerability from 4

[red path]

subsume sunder

[tiny dragon]

Watercooling is less windy but same heat ofc

[willow bluff]

Hmmm
Probably not a bad idea

I can make use of thermal transfer

[winged nexus]

would pyrotechnic work too?

[willow bluff]

Nice

[red path]

you can spam sunder for nuking

[hexed imp]

guys i want to join the slam fiesta but i cant afford a magistar riven will coda mire be a good replacement

[winged nexus]

not familar with guarda too much

[willow bluff]

Unnecessary

[willow bluff]

That I don't need, I like dread heart kamehameha.

[red path]

there is an arcane that turns garuda into immortal ability spam monster: molt reconstruct

[willow bluff]

Already using it
Not even maxed is required

[red path]

I like mirror nuking more too tbh

[willow bluff]

Though thermal transfer will be very very useful

I can spam heat or blast procs

[leaden obsidian]

Gloomruda, idk how smite would do

[willow bluff]

Already did smite

[amber trench]

smite infusion

[willow bluff]

https://youtu.be/MEokzgzZ9I4?si=gg2iKZlPaqcNG-p6

[leaden obsidian]

Breach surge

[amber trench]

Smite Infusion Nyx
Am I cooking

[leaden obsidian]

No

[willow bluff]

It's barely any boost

[amber trench]

It's basically shock trooper but for rad damage

[willow bluff]

Also no

[amber trench]

Smite wipes overguard so mind control

[willow bluff]

I'm sticking to thermal transfer

[leaden obsidian]

Your cooking is still raw

[winged nexus]

at this point you can use meme subumes

as you kit sounds like it is water tight

[willow bluff]

As much as I hate a jade eximus being dead instantly when overguard ends, I still don't like this niche

[tiny dragon]

Jade thats it

Ophanim Eyes

Or whatever theyre called, armor strip

[red path]

I don't remember which subsume I use on garuda, it's prob nova or jade

[winged nexus]

i guessing your energy sustain is good and you do not need norish

[willow bluff]

Nope, nourish is completely replaced
I already have viral sources

[leaden obsidian]

Noyrish buffs it but she has extremely good energy economy

[willow bluff]

Honestly, at this point only 1 more advantage can beat thermal transfer idea

One handed cast spammable ability

[red path]

she don't need any economy, she's basically energy itself

[tiny dragon]

Do you have Armor strip?

[willow bluff]

Ehhh
Just heat for 50%

[leaden obsidian]

She just hurts herself for energy

[red path]

styanax one may be fun if you have enough range

[tiny dragon]

Then its Tharros Strike + Lethality

[willow bluff]

Hmmmmmmmmm

[tiny dragon]

Shield/Armor drain, health restore/stun/finisher enable/crit boost

[leaden obsidian]

Nokkos might give some funny results with garudas 1

[red path]

and you restore hp with molt reconstruct spamming abilities, perpetual mobile

[willow bluff]

I'm gonna be honest
Subsuming styanax will have to wait until his Prime arrives
Good idea though

[winged nexus]

Golden Instinct for the memes

[leaden obsidian]

Coil horizon

[muted bough]

yall i need help regarding unlocking steel path

[willow bluff]

I already have golden instinct lavos
Even then it's such a horrible looting ability

[winged nexus]

Parasitic armour for more memes

[willow bluff]

So much range gets wasted by bad pathing

[muted bough]

why have i done every mission on venus but its not counting as "complete"? its my last planet to unlock steel path

[red path]

it's good with neg range, if it triggers you just need to use orokin eye to find the spot

[red path]

it's a bug, it requires you to complete deep mines, which need the new war complete

[muted bough]

huh, how do i do that deep mine thing

[red path]

it's the nokko farming mission, check update highlights

[willow bluff]

So for now it's decided, it's gonna thermal transfer until I susbume styanax

[leaden obsidian]

Do you have new war completed

[muted bough]

yeah i got all the story done

[winged nexus]

at this point I would throw resonator or a cc effect to make them just completely derp out.

[leaden obsidian]

Go down to fortuna, go directly left from spawn

[red path]

there is 3 bounties in fortuna at new guy in the vent

[willow bluff]

I've seen the synergy between resonator and her 4 doing good memes

But I don't have the insanity to pull that off

[muted bough]

do i talk to someone named nightcap or smth

[red path]

yes

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah

[winged nexus]

from your replies your build literally has everything it needs to do what it needs to do.

[willow bluff]

Hold Q, you'll see nightcap teleportation option

[muted bough]

yeah im with him right now, do i click deepmine bounties

[leaden obsidian]

Yes

[willow bluff]

Almost
What I'm really searching is a decent spammable ability for emergency shield gate, but also a damage boost will be a bonus

[willow bluff]

Yes

[winged nexus]

I know petrify or something similar will work. Xata whisper would also work as it is spammable and a good damage boost

[willow bluff]

Xata is also a good option in mind

I'll pick that if I can't afford to fit thermal transfer in the build

[muted bough]

how do i unlock the steel path now? ive done every planet

[red path]

you can check with teshin in relay

do you have koumei's mission on earth done?

[muted bough]

no idea

i just came back to wf and havent played in months

talking to teshin now about the steel path thing

[red path]

it's called saya's visions, if not talk to konzu/saya in cetus

[muted bough]

gotta do teshin challenged now or smth

[leaden obsidian]

That’s unlocking steel path

Accepting teshins challenge is steel path

[red path]

yeah, be sure to select right answer

[muted bough]

i chose "im ready", pretty sure both answers had the same ending lmao

[leaden obsidian]

One doesn’t unlock steel path, the other does

[red path]

now you have a small selector on the right side of your star chart where you toggle normal and sp

[leaden obsidian]

You’re either ready or you’re hecked

[muted bough]

dang i gotta do the planets all over again now

[red path]

no

there is a new tab in navigation appears that's called sp incursions, you can do them to unlock that node out of order

[leaden obsidian]

Nah, you just gotta do them all on steel path

Starchart is untouched

[red path]

also, you can switch back to normal path any time

[muted bough]

now with steel path i can get incarnons right

[leaden obsidian]

Yes

[red path]

yes, you need to unlock sp in duviri

[leaden obsidian]

no no we don’t tell them that

[red path]

that is on normal: complete at least one run of circuit, defeat orowurm in experience, defeat orowurm in lone story

if you did all of these before you should have sp unlocked already in duviri

[muted bough]

all im missing is lone story if i remember correctly

[scenic sage]

Syam or skiajati for excal umbra? I know I'm going to be using exalted maor of the time I'm just wondering what I should slot in for melee

[red path]

I would go with syam

[scenic sage]

I wanna go with syam becsuse from what I've seen it's better the lore enthusiast in me wants to go for skiajati

[red path]

pick 3rd path and get glaive prime, so you can kill stalker/acolyte when they disable your 4th ability

[leaden obsidian]

That’s what my sybaris is for

If they live that long that is

[red path]

skiajati can work too if you go with lore, since you prob be using exalted 99% of the time anyway

there is ton of other melees that are good too

[leaden obsidian]

If things go to heck, pick up influence falcor or an exodia contagion zaw

[scenic sage]

Thank you!!

[leaden obsidian]

(Probably the zaw, influence doesn’t do well against single targets, tho having no enemies around makes life easier)

[red path]

if you do the hex and get the sword skin for the arthur's sword, you can just use any sword type melee and it will fit the lore appearance-wise

[muted bough]

alr just unlocked duviri sp, how do i get an incarnon now

[red path]

you select adapters as possible rewards in sp circuit

[lofty garden]

Enable SP via the middle right icon in Navigation, then choose Circuit from the Duviri submenu.

[red path]

you can also buy any adpater in current rotation from cavalero

you need angels of the zariman completed to install them

[muted bough]

oh dang it, dont tell me incarnons are like a rotational shop

[leaden obsidian]

Alr we won’t

[wispy herald]

Aye, I'm farming techrot safes on the legacyte harvest mission, and apparently the key is under the ground here

Is this a bug?

[red path]

yes, there is 8 weeks with 5 incarnon adapters per week, you can select up to 2 per week for circuit reward

[muted bough]

[leaden obsidian]

You said not to tell you so we’re not tellin you

[lofty garden]

5 per week, you can earn up to two. 8 week rotation.

[wispy herald]

I tried to find a video online on how to grab this key in particular, but this is the second time this has happened to me

[muted bough]

i despise rotational shop sistems that take weeks or days to rotate

ts is so boring

[wispy herald]

And I haven't found a way to grab it

Anyone has any idea on how to do that?

[leaden obsidian]

They rotate weekly

[muted bough]

i just said that mate 😭

[red path]

my guess is that there is a tile underneath, where the thing spawned for some reason, and yes it's a bug, you prob should report it in https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1427782653960130601

[leaden obsidian]

Nu uh

[muted bough]

is the rotation the same for everyone

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah

[muted bough]

any of these weapons in rotation "good"?

[red path]

nami solo in insane, burston is very good too (and easy to get the prime for the adapter)

vasto and soma are good too, but may need some farming for the primes to install adapters (will have better stats that putting adapter on normal)

ack is I don't get it, I just got the adapter for completion sake but never got to use this weapon

[muted bough]

would nami solo incarnon be better than syam

[red path]

probably yes, it has insane range

like 3rd place of all melees after iron staff and bo incarnon

something around 11m or 14m

[amber trench]

1.0 follow through is a ridiculous stat to have for a weapon

[red path]

this too, yes, considering the huge damage from incarnon buffs and heavy attack movement from cyclone kraken stance

but you need to equip melee for this buff

[muted bough]

wdym

also how do i get the nami bp?

[red path]

it's from dojo labs iirc

when you just hit melee it's called quick-melee and you can switch back to gun by just clicking fire/aim,
when you hold switch weapon key (F by default) you go into equip melee mode where you only use melee even during aim/glide/wall-latch

it will also make you to use block manually (in quick melee block/parry will be active automatically when not attacking)

[brittle scaffold]

Hi guys, question: can I use a nukor riven on a kuva nukor?

[obsidian ridge]

Yes

[red path]

yes, but be ware, while riven is the same, the guns can have different dispositions

kuva nukor dispo is super low

[tropic onyx]

Why are tome mods so stupid to farm; honestly may be the first set of mods I just buy off of market :|

[brittle scaffold]

I understand. Do you think it's a good ideia to use a riven on that weapon though?

[leaden obsidian]

Which one you after

[red path]

it can be useful for elements, for example rolling cold and toxin will get you viral with just one mod slot

[tropic onyx]

Honestly, all of them, but the ability strength most of all. I want all of them for Dante; the support from all of them is crazy good

[red path]

it was 2nd one for me, 1st was tennokai

[leaden obsidian]

I happen to have a spare

Any others you lookin for in specific? If not I can give a recommendation

[dim talon]

ground slam

[tropic onyx]

Not really, maybe the uni orb and energy. What was going to be the reconmendation

[leaden obsidian]

Khra canticle(uni orb one)

[wispy herald]

Tried it a lot, sadly it didn't work... Maybe it's because I was with my brand new Nami Solo

Well, I got kicked out of the mission for inactivity while searching for an answer so

[tropic onyx]

Also, you dont have to, I was just ranting honestly lol. I feel weird when I take handouts without being able to give something in return lol

[leaden obsidian]

Ah dw about it, just spares from sometime ago

if you got any valkyr prime parts I’ll take them off you

[tropic onyx]

No sorry, got my prime from TennoCon :/. You want any Nova prime parts?

[leaden obsidian]

Nah, slide me your finest ammo drum then

[tropic onyx]

Lol, gimme a sec to get on

[leaden obsidian]

Take your time, I’m not on yet either

[tropic onyx]

Ah, gotcha

[leaden obsidian]

Just got home

[brittle scaffold]

Do you guys have any tricks to reveal your rivens, i mean: any special mission or something like this?

[slender sparrow]

Brain on - reveal Riven - brain off

[lofty garden]

Stockpile ciphers from Teshin

[main merlin]

Yeah, that's one thing I don't regret buying straight up.

[main merlin]

I have 5 just chilling.

Wait...

6*

[leaden obsidian]

Oh I forgot, what’s your ign

[main merlin]

Also, Iron Wake lady occasionally.

[lofty garden]

Never seen them at Iron Wake. Iron Wake sells two rivens a week.

[tropic onyx]

Omnify#643

[opal sun]

is this a new one? ive never seen this interaction

[dawn torrent]

Judging by the lack of objects for them to be hanging on I'd say it's actually one of the older ones

[heavy drift]

Does combat discipline trigger arcane avenger?

[tender perch]

Yup

[foggy coral]

99.9999% of the time

[heavy drift]

Is it a viable combo that can actually be used well (if you have the self sustain to live combat discipline), or is it just a fun interaction that works but isnt very useful

[red path]

it's one of the main use of that aura, when you have other ways to protect your health from ever being damaged

it also synergize with archon intensify if you have healing abilities

[heavy drift]

Even if it is one of the main uses, noone ever uses combat discipline

Is that just bc theres better options or what?

[red path]

I use it at least in 2 builds

[heavy drift]

For who

[red path]

it's just not often that you actually need to damage yourself becuse you can negate all the outside damage

I use it for chroma (for vex armor buffs) and for wisp, both synergize with archon intensify too

[heavy drift]

U mean like theres no need to use discipline bc the enemies can just trigger the avenger instead?

[red path]

yes

[heavy drift]

Ok yeah makes sense

[red path]

other possible use is on gauss or revenant or dante, but I don't use avenger/a.intensify on them

[true kayak]

Wisp’s breach surge also gets buffed by avenger
But worthy comradery is more popular

[heavy drift]

Tbf i don't even know who I want to use ngl, I want to try a new frame but idk who seems fun

Im using garuda rn, getting nezha and I might get trinity

But idk if im gonna like nezha or trinity much

[red path]

don't need to rush, or make a "mains", it's always good to try all the frames even if for a bit

[true kayak]

Trinity’s kind of boring imo, just a lot of generic buffs
You can do some interesting things with her, but her base kit doesn’t have much going on

Nezha has some cool stuff

[heavy drift]

Yeah but im lazy and don't like grinding for new frames

[red path]

I don't have much experience with nezha, but trinity is pretty good, you never die if you have energy, and she has some strong buffs

even if lazy, you can just slowly gather the parts

[heavy drift]

Yeah

Im pretty sure they both need loads of augments too, or at least one to be good

[true kayak]

I like exalted frames, but they require extra investment since you need to forma their weapon too

[red path]

I did hear that nezha is op with temple subsume but I yet to try anything about that

[true kayak]

With the status spreading augment for his spears?

[heavy drift]

Yeah im crafting nezha rn but haven't even started on Temple

[red path]

rn I have enough frames I like to not get bored, and from time to time I try to buld something new

[heavy drift]

Yeah ive only got a couple frames, and not enough forma or good mods to make them really good

I like garuda the most rn, harrow was ok but I can't aim well

Don't really have much else

Koumei is ok too

[red path]

you really missed plague star it seems, even if I didn't hardcore farmed it, i still got ~160 forma in just 2 weeks

[heavy drift]

I think i have like 14 or smth

[red path]

you should try putting thermal sunder on harrow 2, and using some aoe gun like tenet arca plasmor

you don't need to aim then

you lose the buff of 2nd ability, but (for me) it makes it much easier to manage his abilities

[heavy drift]

My guns never do like any damage, they prob just built bad, but I normally just run around with my melee

Which is another reason I like garuda more than harrow rn

[red path]

with molt reconstruct you don't need to worry about hp, and all you need is a few kills to max your energy even with super low efficiency

I've been running harrow in energy drain nightmare missions, and I've been playing ability spam

it works even in sp, but not as efficient

and when I got invigoration with primary crit and ability efficiency for harrow it was an insane week

I just put PSF and took bramma for the best safari time

[heavy drift]

I used harrow for a bit but i didnt have any good aoe weapons so I couldn't get headshots to keep covenant up

[red path]

I don't count on covenant to be up, i just recast it (which gives me time to also recast energy buff while invul is active)

[heavy drift]

But also all my primaries are built pretty bad, and I don't have any good ones, so none of them do that much damage anyway

[red path]

it's fun to see headshots do !! crits and 1-shot even strong mobs, but I still kill more with sunder

[heavy drift]

Yeah im sure it's not the best build, but big numbers and big crits are fun, and if I build it properly it will still be good enough

Which is why I used garuda, no aim necessary just kill stuff and do way more damage

If its not enough just use the orb

[red path]

if you like melee, you def need to try atlas, it's insane how good his fists are, and you don't need much fomra for them

I think if you sacrifice a bit of damage you can do it with 0 forma

I did put 2 or 3 and it hits ~5 mil damage in ~10m aoe around main target, basically whipping whole tiles with a few hits

[heavy drift]

I mean I struggle to get 100k unless its garuda orb

The only exception is harmony with koumei abilities to prime

[red path]

though i got atlas from circuit so i actually have not tried the quest where you get him

[heavy drift]

I doubt its that bad, the requirement is only eris junction

[red path]

atlas fist with just exposure arcane and blood rush prob can kill sp mobs

jordas golem and patient zero are last 2 quests I yet to do, and I have atlas and mesa from circuit so idk when I going to actually finish them

[hot slate]

Been enjoying this 😂

[red path]

I can't get a thing other than this is khora, and like other frames with exalted weapon she is op

[hot slate]

Yeah still just as broken

Venari casually hitting damage cap

[red path]

I used to play khora in hollvania to get some calendar tasks in sp hellscrubbers, or when farming something like spectral serration

now I just go with atlas, or sometimes excal

[hot slate]

Yeah I’ve only really played khora boring I know but I’m to lazy to build more frames I’m fairly new compared to a lot of people

[red path]

if you have chromatic blade augment for excalibur, you should try building exalted blade for heavy attacks

waves shot through walls and deal insane damage

[hot slate]

Il give it a go

[turbid comet]

Oop. Wrong channel mb yall

[mint junco]

why does my inaros have 577 hp now

[lofty garden]

You tell us?

[true kayak]

Dragon key?

Unranked?

[worldly schooner]

The condecense has arrived

[fair flame]

i... how would this work?!

[opal sun]

is hildryn easier to just wait for the circuit than build

same with ash

[true kayak]

You need to do six exploiter orb runs to get the toroids, so do those before the circuit and see if you get all blueprints

Ash also isn’t too bad to farm, if you have a good railjack

[uncut star]

This is helpful I was struggling to do both of those

[lofty garden]

Three with a resource booster...

[strong field]

does anyone else's sprodling change colors to match their railjack's interior?

[royal coral]

Are the bounty changes live already?

[gritty oasis]

hi

[vivid fractal]

is this 1.9k the amount i get after she stole or the amount i made for the whole mission and she stole 2.9k

[versed notch]

hi

[vivid fractal]

hi

[normal ledge]

how much health is an excavator in steelpath venus supposed to have?

[plush basalt]

Does every part on a Warframe have to be prime or is it only the chasis

I have a caliban prime chasis

[lofty garden]

Prime frames require four prime blueprints - main, chassis, systems, and neuroptics

[plush basalt]

Ah ok thx

[plush basalt]

So system and neurotics as to be prime as well

[lofty garden]

yes

you need to build the three components to be able to build the main blueprint

[placid turtle]

So a Prime item is technically a different thing to the base item. It's not a direct upgrade (but it's a better version of the original).

So if you want Caliban Prime, you'd need the Caliban Prime Chassis Blueprint, Caliban Prime Neuroptics Blurprint, Caliban Prime Systems Blueprint, and craft those individual components and then use a full Caliban Prime Blueprint to make Caliban Prime.

For regular Caliban, you'd need the neuroptics, chassis, systems and main blueprint still, but not the prime variant

[plush basalt]

I see so it must be quite the grind

[pine stirrup]

can i not craft 2 of the same frame/weapon at the same time?

[lofty garden]

you cannot

[sly onyx]

you just can't

its because the game wants you to take a break

and come back later

[pearl parcel]

ark, i have a question

[sly onyx]

if you could craft all your forma at the same time everyone would always just take the forma when opening a void relic

[pearl parcel]

do you think i should re-make the old Throngler but as a long gun

[sly onyx]

it would devalue forma

[worthy crest]

What is your (anyones) opinion is the reason most new players end up quitting Warframe early on

[pearl parcel]

just how slow progression is

[worthy crest]

See I thought that but surely whilst other things are being crafted/done you could have side objectives to give yourself something to do?

[pearl parcel]

to build a weapon is a day, to build a frame is three and a half ASSUMING you're there the moment it finishes, each mastery is on a day cooldown, syndicate stuff is locked by the day

[worthy crest]

Good point lol

[pearl parcel]

sure but it always leads back to waiting, there isnt always something to do since some story quests or activities or weapons are MR locked

[fallen cape]

timegate almost got me tbh,grinding for a new warframe and all and when you finally got everything the game is telling you to wait 3 whole days

[pearl parcel]

and please quit pinging me i dont like the bright colors

[pearl parcel]

this as well, some of the early bosses (i'm looking at you kril) are poorly designed and boring to fight, you dont get feedback or advice on what to do so you just figure it out and pray you get someone competent that already knows what to do

[worthy crest]

That is pretty jarring tbf

[violet swan]

the time to build a frame is basically just 4 days
nobody remembers building a prime frame

[worthy crest]

I usually have new things crafting in time for other to be started to I'm never waiting too long for something

[pearl parcel]

basically, and it's worse because so many frames and weapons require niche materials you will never get aside from building them

like vauban prime, who in the genuine hell has 3k cryotic and 1500 oxium lying around

[violet swan]

guess what

[pearl parcel]

chicken butt?

[fallen cape]

thats also why the nokko's update is so good,zero timegate,wanna grind the f out of it in one sitting ? go for it

[pearl parcel]

they need to do this to zariman standing

they need to scrap standing cap as a concept, it's lame as hell

[lofty garden]

Steve has said that people are smart. He has friends who took one look at Warframe and all its systems and decided it wasn’t for them. It is a complex game.

[pearl parcel]

the complexity is fine, i dont much mind it
what i mind is the game not letting me play more game

[fallen cape]

personal opinion but standing cap isnt the issue,the issue is it being tied to ranking up

[pearl parcel]

why are the coda weapons mr 17
why are weapons a 12 hour build
why are so many things capped behind a standing grind
why is standing capped if i need to grind it to do more things

[lofty garden]

Eh, it is fine.

Standing is not a big deal.

[vivid fractal]

no goal

[worthy crest]

I had that when I started I didn't have a clue what or if there was even a goal

[pearl parcel]

honestly i hate 90% of the rank up systems
syndicates and standing is lame because story, activities, and lore are locked behind massive, multi-day grinds that you could easily do in a day if you wanted to
MR isnt even tied to feats or accomplishments, it's just tied to a massive god damn collectathon

[lofty garden]

You make your own goal. Some want max MR, some want fashion, some want to press a lot of buttons.

[pearl parcel]

i want to commit war crimes, and a really nice war crime is mr 17 locked for no good reason because DE thought it was a good idea to depart from the standard lich formula

[fallen cape]

Without standing caps the economy of the game would be such a big mess tho,if you could just rank up in any Syndicate independently from the standing gain it would be much much better already

[worthy crest]

Mine ATM is getting 60k alloy plates for the kavat incubator segment

[pearl parcel]

mine is MR, it's annoying and time consuming since it's not even tied to what you do, it's tied to weapons
weapons that take a half day to build
weapons that almost always require niche materials you will never have, ever
weapons that can require a material you physically cannot stock up on, argon crystals, which get obliterated after a mere 2 days

[fallen cape]

The fact that you need to wait 24h between mr lvl up has to be the biggest joke

[worthy crest]

Are you managing to level up mastery ranks that quick? And if so how?

It usually takes me a couple of days 😢

[fallen cape]

its easy early game when you have way too much time on your hands

[lofty garden]

Why? are you grinding 147,500 MR in less than 24hrs?

[fallen cape]

or like my gf,when you get stuck on a mastery test and forget about it while grinding the game some more

[worthy crest]

So if you fail it you have to wait?

[lofty garden]

No

They removed that. You can retry as often as you want

[worthy crest]

Oh that's good

I haven't failed one yet but I think I might cause they only get harder don't they?

[fallen cape]

the fact that failing used to trigger the cooldown is not that old is terrifying

[lofty garden]

Eh, you could always practice

[vivid fractal]

scary part is when u practice and make it but when u try u fk up

[lofty garden]

But you were never penalized MR gains for it

[tulip bane]

is the thornbak good?

[pearl parcel]

no

[pearl parcel]

hey NPC should i make The Throngler again

[worthy crest]

The throngler?

[pearl parcel]

yes, The Throngler, put some respect on its name

[worthy crest]

I don't know what that is 😭

[pearl parcel]

it's a kitgun that causes internal torsion in a target, while also poisoning them and giving them hyper cancer

it liquefies and detonates them, basically

[worthy crest]

Oh damn alright yeah sure lol

How does one make this?

[pearl parcel]

lemme go to fortuna and show you the blueprint

[pearl parcel]

havent decided on a grip yet, but it uses a long gun grip this time

[worthy crest]

Ima have to make that later today

[pearl parcel]

guess what it does

[worthy crest]

This?

[pearl parcel]

it throngles people, and looks TERRIFYING

[wise burrow]

.

[worthy crest]

😂

[pearl parcel]

this is a torture weapon

[worthy crest]

Wtf is that lol

[pearl parcel]

this, but assembled

[fallen cape]

look like a nasty paint gun

[pearl parcel]

it certainly paints, the floor, walls, and ceiling with whatever it touches

[worthy crest]

Looks like something John Kramer would put together to punish people

[pearl parcel]

and it uses long gun Vermisplicer, so it shoots a tentacle that chains out into several more tentacles

[acoustic karma]

hey im currently downloading the game was wondering if anyone would be down to guide me a bit

[pearl parcel]

and i think it chains out FURTHER if you add punch (like i intend to)

[worthy crest]

😂

Its definitely an interesting device lol

Have you made anything like it for zaws aswell?

[pearl parcel]

i made The Cancer Stick

but that was a while ago on the ps4

[worthy crest]

Nice lol

[pearl parcel]

take uhh

take a wild guess what The Cancer Stick does

[worthy crest]

Was is made from the plague stuff

[pearl parcel]

yeah, Plague Kripath i believe, the rapier one

[worthy crest]

Then I'd assume is poisons?

[pearl parcel]

it was a thrown stick that would heavily irradiate and make viral an entire area

i made it again but with Edun

[worthy crest]

Icl I'm lost for words

Very interesting creations

[pearl parcel]

yeah i dont like corpos

my most recent abomination is The Danger Ray

[worthy crest]

Do they work well against eximus

[pearl parcel]

very

[worthy crest]

What's that made from 😂

[pearl parcel]

take a kuva nukor
add every bit of chaining and AOE you can
make it deal heavy radiation, viral, and magnetic damage, with some slash because why not
now use it with Oryx so it poisons whoever it touches and makes a poison AOE whenever someone dies to it

[worthy crest]

So you like radiation then lol

[pearl parcel]

i like making the corpos regret existing

[pearl parcel]

i call this one The Lobotomy Rifle

it's a vadarya

want to see what it does?

[worthy crest]

Yeah sure lol

[pearl parcel]

tat

that*

honestly idk how that happens but it does

[worthy crest]

So it blinds you aswell as the enemies? Lol

[pearl parcel]

it blinds me, the enemies, my entire team, anyone spectating

if i cant see colors neither will you shitters, everything is grey for me so everything will be green for you

[violet swan]

is the best way to endo farm now the shroom bounties?

[nocturne storm]

you said that last night..

what did i say about being more creative

[pearl parcel]

now i'm saying it again, and stop pinging me

look i've been coughing up blood for like a week and a half, creativity isnt as important as crime

[violet swan]

have you tried turning off reply ping sounds

[pearl parcel]

no idea, i still run arbis

[nocturne storm]

YOU SAID THAT TOO

[pearl parcel]

it's the bright colors

[worthy crest]

Could you turn your saturation down?

[pearl parcel]

see, it makes a yellow bar across the message, but i'm almost entirely colorblind, so it makes a very BRIGHT grey bar that makes hte message hard to read and gives me a headache

[worthy crest]

Ohh right

[pearl parcel]

that's why i have so little patience for it, because it's very bright and i've already had a headache for 10 months

and i cant afford to go to a medic for it, because i'm poor

hey NPC do you have some gems and/or fish i can trade you for

[worthy crest]

Idk if I have fish lol I've not been fishing for a while on Warframe

[pearl parcel]

all i want is 5 echo-winders

and 5 smoothed phasmins

[worthy crest]

Is the echo winders a fortuna fish?

[pearl parcel]

ja

[worthy crest]

I don't think I'll have any of them then I don't usually go to fortuna anymore

[pearl parcel]

to the coolant puddle it is then

i'm gonna compile a list of the shit i need and get to work

[worthy crest]

For the throngler ?

[pearl parcel]

for the throngler

oh danke mein gott, i hate the scintillant grind

[worthy crest]

Is that hard to get?

[pearl parcel]

its annoying to get

because it's a small grey drone in a very cluttered area that's hard for people who CAN see colors to find

and there's a small detail that makes this more difficult
i CANT see colors

[worthy crest]

As in no colours at all?

[pearl parcel]

essentially, i have horrible colorblindness where colors blend together very hard if there's not a lot of contrast

it just happens that "not al ot of contrast" means blue, purple, and green look alike

[worthy crest]

Oh right

[pearl parcel]

and red, orange, yellow, etc. all look alike

that's why oryx looks like this, very bright gold with very dark red

[worthy crest]

Can't you go to the NHS or anything like that for stuff to help with it?

[pearl parcel]

they cant fix colorblindness

[worthy crest]

This is true

Don't they have some sort of glasses that help with the colours though?

[pearl parcel]

no they do not

anyone that claims they do is selling snake oil

[worthy crest]

Oh right

[exotic dagger]

Not sure where the idea of a Frost Umbra came from, or why I like it, but I do.

[worthy crest]

Well ima get my 2 and a half hours of sleep before work adios

[nocturne storm]

any prime weapons tha are mr 5-6?

[pearl parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/gabe-newell-no-ytpmv-lol-no-disagree-gif-17266802

[nocturne storm]

okay thanks

[pearl parcel]

bastard

cease the bright

[solar pewter]

[lofty garden]

Bo Prime is MR5

[compact sable]

i kinda wish they would extend umbras

a whole polarity and expensive forma just for 5 mods has aged awkwardly

[placid turtle]

Especially since the Sacrificial Mods are kinda garbage in comparison to Primed and Galvanized

I wish they at least could be used with OmniForma

[cedar urchin]

hello all

[blazing gust]

Hello, everyone!

[pearl parcel]

hey ark, do ye have 5 echo winders

[pine stirrup]

which has better ammo economy, larkspur or grattler?

[placid turtle]

Nah, when it comes to Fortuna fishing I just kill Exploiter Orb and get a whole bunch of loot there

[pearl parcel]

reasonable, i'm building The Throngler

do you, instead, happen to have exactly 14 dagonic?

[placid turtle]

Can dagonic even be traded? Also I just run Isolation Vaults for Deimos stuff

And thumpers for Plains stuff

[pine stirrup]

which bounty are fastest in the deepmines

[placid turtle]

They're all pretty much the same, the longest objectives are the one where you have to defend the point, and maybe the one where you defend the drone while killing enemies

[pearl parcel]

in one hour i will have the throngler

[torn crystal]

is Kuva Disruption the only way to Codex Kuva Disruption Guardians?

[placid turtle]

Yeah, Kuva Demolishers are only on Kuva disruption. All other Grineer disruption missions use other Grineer types

[pearl parcel]

hey ark, what's that mod that buffs the final shot of a magazine on a pistol called

[torn crystal]

man why does it have to be 20 tho
thanks anyways

[torn crystal]

Synth Charge

[pearl parcel]

thanks, could i get that one for a r5 deadhead?

oh wait that's a preview, i'm stupid

[torn crystal]

u can buy one from market for 10 i think

[crystal sail]

guys does orokin eye work for the cache in the kalypmos capture quest on 1999?

[torn crystal]

it'll help u find the key for the cache

[crystal sail]

ohhh so not the cache itself right?

[torn crystal]

no

[crystal sail]

so if u use it to find the key… the cache would be close so that works

[torn crystal]

the key does spawn near the cache

[crystal sail]

thank you

[nocturne storm]

where in gods beautiful earth is onko

tryna open this door that will susposedly open for me when in operator form and everyone is saying its behind onko and its a hut with stairs

but where the frick is onko

[pearl parcel]

did you do saya's vision

[torn crystal]

u shouldnt need to do Saya's vision (unless they changed it)

[pearl parcel]

the one where you find saya

[nocturne storm]

?

thats the only saya thing i got

im doing the railjack quest

[pearl parcel]

ooh tauforged azure

[torn crystal]

u switching into operator form at the door?

[nocturne storm]

yeah but where is the dooorrrrrr

[torn crystal]

Teleport to the old bounty guy on Cetus and then follow the rock wall directly behind him

[nocturne storm]

lwky started playin 5 days ago so the old bounty guy i would have no idea

[torn crystal]

Konzu

this guy

follow the rock wall behind him to a set of stairs

[nocturne storm]

OH I THOUGHT YOU MEANT HE WAS THE OLD ON AND THER IS A NEW ONE

not his age 😭

found ittt thanks mannn

[pearl parcel]

i have obtained The Funny

wow i forgot how terrifying the throngler is

[olive sun]

Been trying to do this Kuva Kohm build for a few days now and while its good, Its ammo management is really bcoming a problem

Can't go 6 minutes into a mission without having to scavenge for more

Anything to improve it or is it just going to be like that?

[pearl parcel]

hey rubric, what does hammer shot even do

[olive sun]

Increases crit damage and status chance

[pearl parcel]

oh sick, how much you reckon i can get one for

[olive sun]

Pretty rare
1.01 chance on A rotation nightmare missions

And goes for 100p

[pearl parcel]

hell no, i'll get one way cheaper

[olive sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358277065840787468/1358478208508367119/attachment-4.gif

How?

[pearl parcel]

haggling

[pearl parcel]

i got my vaub prime for like 20 plat

i strike a god damn good deal

[gentle sparrow]

chat

if i have a slinced weapon

do i still break huras' invise?

[pliant trench]

if it weapon u equip in primary, secondary and melee - and exalted
it break the invis

[gentle sparrow]

are you sure?

[pliant trench]

no idea what slinced weapon is but yea, as long it that category it still break the invis

[gentle sparrow]

second question. do the health spores in nokkos 3 count for equilibrum?

[gentle sparrow]

silenced.

like ivaras stealth doesn't break if the weapon is silent.

[pliant trench]

still break, that only work for ivara or any invis frame - except loki cuz his passive is built in silence

huras and shade specifically said wpn atk, u modded even with silence it still disable the invis

even the damn melee atk

[gentle sparrow]

okay.

[gentle sparrow]

@pliant trench this question then.

[pliant trench]

no, regen and pickup is two different category

[gentle sparrow]

okay.

it's also shields i thought it worked the way you said but i thought i would ask.

[pliant trench]

unless it work like protea 3rd skill (which u can subsume) then yes that count equilibrium

[gentle sparrow]

thank you.

[pearl parcel]

how are ye bau

[quaint brook]

Nokko probably doesnt need equilibrium unless your starting energy is too low

[quaint brook]

chillin

[gentle sparrow]

correct. okay what i wanna find a way to deal with is if i use up all my energy cuz i forgot to press my 2.

so i firguring out ways to deal with it.

[quaint brook]

ah. I recommend prayer, you will need it

[pliant trench]

u could craft the pizza

[pearl parcel]

hey bau you got a hammer shot i can trade ye for

made a throngler

[pliant trench]

that how i counter no energy

[quaint brook]

I really only have the one

[pearl parcel]

unfortunate

[gentle sparrow]

I FIGURED IT OUT. zen and a long range weapon.

also

Zen is actually more of a DPS focus skill than people realize.

but i won't go into it.

SPOROTHRIX TIME

hey chat

[pliant trench]

i found interestin on nokko is that his 3rd skill count toward crepscular arcane, the crit buff only, as for str u still need huras or shade

[gentle sparrow]

you ever put 3 forma into a weapon just to put on vice?

[gentle sparrow]

for both of those they can easily use Tenicous bond as well.

[pliant trench]

more like crowd control than dps

[gentle sparrow]

to add even more.

no?

[pliant trench]

no?
2nd skill increase crit headshot, and slow
and slingshot to enemy just disarm em, that all

[gentle sparrow]

it increases just damage

i think.

[pliant trench]

did u outbound madurai?

[gentle sparrow]

yes.

i have all waybounds.

[obsidian sigil]

Is there a reason the enemies consistently tried congregating here after a certain point

[pliant trench]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

it a.i change in motion w player activity, this to fix player campin far long in single room

bcuz that khora player, all player gotta suffer

also if u got nully mob, the a.i does the same to be under the bubble

[gentle sparrow]

they all run towards a certain point

cuz of their AI.

[pliant trench]

ai is just complex word to said than "if else" lmfao

[pearl parcel]

man, DE screwed the economy with all those cheap and free arcanes and such

the price of everything tanked

[pliant trench]

except excalibur prime, it still increase to 20k rn

[obsidian sigil]

No i get that its always "choose a point to run to" but its like that point never got updated at all

[pearl parcel]

because you literally cant get that anyway

all the stuff that used to be good business is dead, 90% of arcanes, a ton of mods, legendary cores, prime junk

[pliant trench]

at least hardcore player isnt ded yet

if their are, the warframe can prepare the shut down early

[gentle sparrow]

GOOD

i hope they get CHEAPER

[pearl parcel]

for one, screw you, and for two quit pinging me

i want to buy things but i cant afford anything anymore cause the price of anything i could get to sell is in the gutter

[gentle sparrow]

1000000 energize created sold for 4 platium. everyone gets one.

[pearl parcel]

even fully ranked galv mods are down at 60p

[gentle sparrow]

good.

[pearl parcel]

screw you man, i want to buy things

[pliant trench]

might be the case since this community kept sayin farm those galv. mod and corrupted mod

[pearl parcel]

i dont even know where hammer shot comes from

[pliant trench]

seems like the supply is huge than demand

[gentle sparrow]

uhhhhhhh

[pliant trench]

nightmare mission

[gentle sparrow]

hammer shot is from somewhere dumb i think.

[pliant trench]

tier 3 iirc

[pearl parcel]

everything is in the gutter, prime junk, legendary cores, cant sell a god damn thing for a price that's worth the effort anymore

[pure gulch]

mercury/mars/earth/venus nightmare missions

[obsidian sigil]

Isnt it also phobos

[pliant trench]

still the corrupted mod is way better than hammer shot

[pearl parcel]

i already have critical delay on

[pure gulch]

no just the 4

[pearl parcel]

wait i can mix crit delay and hammer shot right

or is it one of those stupid cases where it cant stack

[pure gulch]

can

[pliant trench]

can

hammer shot additive to any crit mods

[obsidian sigil]

I always thought it included phobos, weird

[pearl parcel]

you get why i'm annoyed though right

cant make any amount of money in a decent amount of time, everything's down the drain

[pliant trench]

oh fr, i end up just go buy it for 15p instead, ez seller scamming

tho at that time the status % was 40% and not 80% yet

[pearl parcel]

i'd more than like to have a hammer shot

if oyu have a spare i'll swap you a r5 deadhead for it

[vital skiff]

hammer shot for other purposes case.

[pliant trench]

i check back after today, if i have extra i ping u

[red path]

hammer shot is cd and sc, has nothing to do with cc mods

[pearl parcel]

what? i thought it was critical chacne

[pliant trench]

it cd

[red path]

no, it's crit damage

[pearl parcel]

god dAMNIT

[pearl parcel]

what crit mods can stack with critical delay

[vital skiff]

acu mod

[pearl parcel]

acu?

[pliant trench]

weakspot mod

[pearl parcel]

accuity

[pliant trench]

vital sense

[vital skiff]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Acuity_Mods

[red path]

rivens, and conditionals like galv. scope

[pearl parcel]

vital sense doesnt stack does it?

[red path]

vital sense has nothing to stack with crit chance

[pearl parcel]

i need crit change, i'm just shy of a hudnred percent

[pliant trench]

right u cant put both

[red path]

puncture procs help

[pearl parcel]

actually, i can just switch to a status build if i get hammer shot

cause i can easily get 100% status and this chains pretty good

[strange galleon]

idk if this is the right channel, but I just got my first riven mod from nightwave, what are they and how do they wokr

[obsidian aspen]

"Reveal" them to see what challenge they need you to do.
Doing the challenge "Unveils" them, which is when they get assigned a random weapon of their category and given some random stats.
You can use Kuva to "Reroll" them, getting new random stats.

[tiny dragon]

Its a system designed to add stats to outdated or comparatively underpowered weapons by fusing together several random stats into one mod.
You can reroll these stats for a better result.

To "unveil" this riven, you need to equip it onto any compatible gun, which will reveal its challenge.
Completing the challenge in a mission will show you the riven in its actual form, which gun it is for and which stats its adding.

You can reroll these stats with a resource called "Kuva", which unlocks after "The War Within" quest.
The first 10 rolls cost less Kuva.

Fair warning, there is a submarket of sorts for trading rivens at exorbitant prices. However, they are more hot potatoes than anything else, so dont get fooled by it.

[strange galleon]

tyy

[chilly raven]

what does feeding the prince do?

near nightcap

[red path]

reveals some lore

[obsidian aspen]

Lore

[chilly raven]

oh,good thing i asked instead of wasting resources

[obsidian aspen]

I got all feedings before even reaching rank 2 with Nightcap. You're fine

[placid turtle]

Yeah it's like 20-40 per lore dump I think

Not that much

[obsidian aspen]

20-40-60 for first, second and third respectively (120 in total)

[slate depot]

Getting back into the game after a few years, i have all the blueprints for chroma is he worth taking the time to farm out and craft for or should i stick with gara prime for now

[dim talon]

Well I can only answer from my own perspective, when I was down to my last 65k credits, he was very, very useful. Now that I'm comfortably north of 20M, he's been vaulted for frames I just enjoy more.

[formal jasper]

about to overclock my pc

[nocturne storm]

fr question about these in game. are they like a rebirth for wtv u use them on?

[jaunty flint]

Yo?

[formal jasper]

resets their level to zero for a new polarized slot where matching mods will only take half up their capacity

[nocturne storm]

ouu okie because i used one on my primary and was just a bit lost

[slate depot]

guess ill craft him soon then, it might take a while before i can craft chroma, gotta research volt and then his neuroptics

[placid oriole]

anyone have tips for stairs, mine are not it right now, i keep hitting my head

[nocturne storm]

crouch

[placid oriole]

genius

[strong field]

CuT those legs

[placid oriole]

they keep growing back

[strong field]

Try put a tape on it

So it won't grow

[frail tree]

Umbro is really fun actually. took a couple forma to fix his obsession over umbral mods though

[tiny dragon]

Im curious, why Primed Redirection and Augur Secrets?

[frail tree]

felt like it /j

secrets is really only there for a lil more strength, im relying on redirection and aegis for survival, mostly

if I die, I die

[tiny dragon]

You could use Precision Intensify or Transient Fortitude

[frail tree]

precision intensify cant combo with umbral intensify sadly

and transient fortitude would mean another forma

thats not a bad idea though. might try that out

[tiny dragon]

Well the question for me would really be why Primed Redirection

Its 14 capacity and it isnt really helping you aside making a larger shield gate possible

My opinion anyways

[frail tree]

bigger shield = more chances for aegis to proc, right? thats what I was thinking

[tiny dragon]

Thats kinda true, but less so on Steel Path

Your shields have 50% innate damage reduction

But thats not actually a lot when the enemy does 1 k dmg

I would personally use Adaption here instead

[frail tree]

nyaruhodo...

sure I'll try that

maybe I should add another forma

[tiny dragon]

Probably, yeah

[misty hedge]

so just wondering about the current sortie, is the obj supposed to be taking damage from the radiation aoe effect from the mission???

[frail tree]

im gonna add a vazarin polarity methinks

[strong field]

The enemy does 1k damage?

[red path]

it's not that many really

with all the damage reductions you can put on yourself

[frail tree]

oh yk what ima just... remove aegis, run dual shield regen mods and caty shields

[strong field]

Imma rely on Augur.... hopefully it's enough

[red path]

I just run 3 umbra on excal umbra, if I would want normal polarities, I better just farm normal excal

[strong field]

Oh I replied the wrong person

[frail tree]

I already subsumed over 2 of his umbral polarities lol

[strong field]

Are Augur enough?

[frail tree]

https://tenor.com/view/zesty-cat-niklas-cat-tongue-gif-9842551414196208576

[red path]

subsume is for abilities (and it's actually called infuse)

I would never replace umbra polarity because of how rare are umbra formas

[frail tree]

this works. im happy with this

[red path]

have you actually tried that on mobs in missions?

[frail tree]

about to!

why did I send that image twice?

did some testing, yeah, im not dying at all

[sterile fossil]

My friends we have reached the archon battles

First up is Amar

[red path]

so, you got best bow in the game

[nocturne hull]

Why is steel charge giving 18 instead of the normal like 14?

[red path]

it's special

[obsidian aspen]

because Steel Charge has a base boost of 9

[red path]

there is one more aura like that, forgot which one

power donation?

[nocturne hull]

Oh

[tiny dragon]

Depends, but yeah. They can do way more. Theres also some goofy ones like SP Deimos Infested one-shotting your dog/sentinel with a slam

[strong field]

Ugh.... how do you survive this without shield gating? Is Augur mods gonna be enough?

Aside from frames with built-in aegis

[red path]

with proper setup you can hp tank up to lvl 1k mobs

[tiny dragon]

You literally dont, thats the point

You can do

• Shield Gating
• Health Tanking
• Damage Reduction
  Or a combination of them

Armor has diminishing returns, so it falls off at really high lvls, while smth like Neutron Star + normal Shield 50% dmg reduction already achieved 95% damage reduction before any armor

Achieves*

And Shield Gating is another can of worms, since many frames cant do it effectively

[sterile fossil]

HE JUMPIN ME

[tiny dragon]

Augur Mods do almost nothing without Catalyzing Shields, as they will instantly remove any Gate currently active and grant you the minimal Gate for the next damage instance, which is 0,33 s (if less than 53 shields restored)

[red path]

or you can put arcane blessing and parasitic armor on hildryn and get viable build for hp tanking

44k armor

[sterile fossil]

Is Amar the hardest of the 3-

[nocturne hull]

Not exactly

I recommend boreal next

[obsidian aspen]

I saved Nira for last since we saw her first

[red path]

I did boreal last, it was a bit of pain, but I think I was right

and yeah, I died a lot to amar

[sterile fossil]

Ik the no brainer is to keep my bow charged when shooting but man

[nocturne hull]

Same(kinda)

[south girder]

There’s also that neat robotic mod that boosts your shields to max when you lose it all

[obsidian aspen]

Time the shots like Hunhow taught you

[sterile fossil]

Got to the point of after he brought his clones and man's straight up jumped me

[sterile fossil]

Ima be fr It went one ear n out the other

[red path]

spoiler alert ||you'll have to fight last archon with a mote amp instead of nataruk||

[sterile fossil]

So sorry for the pings, oml 💀/gen

[obsidian aspen]

||you have your Warframe for that||

[frail tree]

wouldnt growing power be better than steel charge for umbra cuz more str = higher base dmg > 60% melee dmg bonus similar to pressure point

[obsidian aspen]

look at the reticle when charging. Notice a section is split off

[sterile fossil]

Yurr

[red path]

||I remember last part didn't allow warframes, but I may be wrong||

it was over a year since i did new war

[tiny dragon]

You can use WF in that part

[obsidian aspen]

||Last part is after our Necramech breaks down and Erra summons that Archon so we can try to revive Natah||

[red path]

||yeah, I remember last part is after you meet with operator, but for some reason I remember fighting archon with my drifter (I choose drifter to finish the quest)||

[sterile fossil]

Grabbing coffee so I can lock in to ts

[obsidian aspen]

||You're Drifter/Operator by default there, but there's no Orphix Field so you can use Transference||

[river ibex]

Why every timei need some new mod or item i am so scared and sick that i have to do another days and days of farming without results, why i am forced to do something i hate instead letting me do so fun stuff?

[sick plover]

In my experience, it doesnt happen often

[tiny dragon]

You dont have to do that, you can just do what you enjoy and trade the results for what you actually want

[sick plover]

Tho granted its not a nightmare mode mod, corrupted mod or a spy 60/60 mod

[tiny dragon]

Thats why almost everything advanced in the game is tradable

[sick plover]

And odds are, someone is willing to give a few of the ones they have plenty off away for free

[tiny dragon]

That too

[sick plover]

I have plenty of elemental mods from getting they passively from syndicate spy missions

[tiny dragon]

Lets say you enjoy Deimos bounties for example, you can get Necramech parts, Bond Mods and pets with it. These can easily and lucratively be traded either for platinum or directly for what you need

[sick plover]

Even farming corrupted mods from dragon key vaults nets reasonable profits

[red path]

then find fun ways to get plat and buy the mods you want from trading

[strong field]

So in my Nokko mod I need to sacrifice either one of my Augur to replace a Catalyzing shielf

Which Augur though?

[tiny dragon]

Augur

You can put it on your secondary

I personally dont like Secrets so Id go with that

[strong field]

Will edit tmr

[tiny dragon]

You can gain back some strength by upgrading to Umbral Intensify eventually

[strong field]

True, I've been doing umbra Intensify now though

[sick plover]

I wish they made it so that if you put a non-umbral mod on an umbral polarity, its just the neutral cost

I'm sitting on about 50 unused umbra forma because its honestly hard to plug them sometimes without breaking something else.

[tiny dragon]

Cant even put umbral on an Omni forma either to get half cost, despite the Omni forma claiming otherwise

[sick plover]

Description wording is indeed off

Honestly I'd be content with being able to make a umbral-omni polarity

[strong field]

Omni forma, what does it do?

[sick plover]

But neutral cost on umbral slot imo sounds more than fair.

Basically omni makes a polarity that discounts all polarities

Except umbral mods, ofc

Because they are unique in their own way

Omni forma are pricey to craft or buy, but they are worth it with how much trouble it can safe with multiple builds

[tiny dragon]

4x Forma and 10 Nitain each

Ive got 2 on Protea, 1 is moved from the Aura slots tho

Which most people dont know you can do

Move stuff to and from aura and exilus slot

[sick plover]

Honestly tho, exilus adapters need a touch up with their dumb cost of 2 forma

[red path]

but.. they all cost 20p equally

[sick plover]

Or regular lens craft into greater ones, pointless to ask a forma, especially since they're bounty rewards in later places

[red path]

except omni forma

I just put normal lenses on everything I use even a bit just for fun

[sick plover]

Exilus needing 2 forma makes no sense because it opens up a single slot onto the frame

[red path]

I already have 20 zenurik posters

[sick plover]

I want more rewards to be buyable with focus

[red path]

I think we will get some kind of focus ult next update

[sick plover]

I cant remember but I'm sitting on like 35-40m madurai

Lemme see if I can see with mobile app

Blergh, needs to update

Cba to do that now

Sanctuary, Zariman and circuit made focus easy as pie to farm

[river ibex]

No lads, you are not right. For example need nautilus cerberum, doing missions on Neptun (Defence) today already 4 hours, all i have its Endo and 9 ash neurooptics. Thats not a way to play

[sick plover]

Ah, railjack

Yeah, it gets tedious

[strong field]

I don't do Railjack... believe me... I ignored it

[tiny dragon]

Railjack is great, the issue is the tacked on cabbage

[red path]

at least it's 3 waves per rotation now, otherwise it would be faster to farm poi

[sick plover]

Only need cerebrum left?

I have a pair i don't need

[tiny dragon]

And yeah, you can just trade for that part, which I suggest doing

[sick plover]

But I'm atm stuck at work

[tiny dragon]

Trade for it, do smth you like instead

[sick plover]

Grind in moderation, that keeps stuff fresh

And in a weird sense, it may honestly be easier to Crack relics for nautilus prime

Granted, if there's no mastery req on it

[tiny dragon]

True

Prime is actually half the price at 35p

[sick plover]

It's wild to say we have an era of frames and weps where the prime is easier to farm than regular

[tiny dragon]

Yeah

[sick plover]

Trumna being an example which needs a seriglass shard for regular

[tiny dragon]

Been on an 8 years break and coming back I actually havent really bothered with the normal versions much

[sick plover]

And grandma tokens are no fun to get

[tiny dragon]

You think? I dont mind them personally

[sick plover]

I bet if you could feed primes to helminth, grendel prime would've been used way more

I like challenges, but Grendel's weren't it.

[tiny dragon]

Yeah true

[sick plover]

I mean, some frames could cheese it real hard

But weapons acting unmodded just... no.

Also a keen reminder to spend your nightwave credits soon, as they're close to expiration in a few days

Please do remind other people as well every so often

[dim talon]

I've heard we get one more season 9 nightwave store for like 24 hours, no?

[opal knot]

Anybody know where and how to get a 100% guarantee Argon drop?

Need it for Nokko

[limber quartz]

Equip box breaker of choice, run ukko or heppit, grofit

[opal knot]

Box breaker?

[limber quartz]

Max range limbo/xaku or something with a large aoe like epitaph

The point is breaking every container trough walls on the way to objective/extraction

[opal knot]

Gauss?

[limber quartz]

Can work, just give him all the range and efficiency, can dump duration and power

[lofty garden]

Xaku Prime works well

[limber quartz]

Xaku do be the better option

If one haz it

[lofty garden]

Prime frames get 250 energy from touching death orbs. Much easier to stay topped up while looking for argon crystals

[opal knot]

Wait how does Xaku break boxes?

[lofty garden]

their 4

[limber quartz]

His 4

Same as limbo

[lofty garden]

(and five tauforged red)

[willow bluff]

Nyx does it with her 4 too

[opal knot]

Is it an activation thing or the box breaking is constant?

[lofty garden]

per activation

hence the need to consider energy replenishment

[sick plover]

My box breaker has max efficiency for maximum box jumpscare