gameplay-discussion

[dawn torrent]

Oh nice

What's ur cc and ms?

[summer cobalt]

On top of a clean 400% exact SC

[dawn torrent]

OH

I misread ur original post

[summer cobalt]

Base form, 99% and 5.7x CD

Crits everywhere no matter what

Base multishot is 25, and I have Glavanized Hell obviously

[dawn torrent]

We must have similar rivens

[summer cobalt]

Right now, it is just 116% CC, and 105% CD. No negative yet.

Trying to get CC, CD, MS, -FR

[dawn torrent]

-FR because you're running semi cannonade?

[summer cobalt]

Bingo

[dawn torrent]

Smart

[summer cobalt]

It’s meant for Strun in my opinion.

[dawn torrent]

Is it better to run semi cannonade and the other damage mod or just semi cannonade

Cuz idk what to replace the 165 mod with really

[summer cobalt]

Cannonade on its own, with Cleanse. Or if you don’t want to, or are fighting a faction without one, then anything. Point Blank isn’t bad

I can screenshot my personal build as reference if you’d like.

[dawn torrent]

Sure

Cuz now I've got two strun rivens and I'm like tryna figure out how best to build it

[fluid spear]

So uhh… Cyte in Circuit is really dumb

[dawn torrent]

Dumb bad or dumb good?

[fluid spear]

Obscenely good

[dawn torrent]

He's good alone

In circuit he must go nuts

[summer cobalt]

Massive understatement

[dawn torrent]

I know

[fluid spear]

Yeah I have my funny headshot crit build on him
Got that decree that makes headshot kills make a 10m field with elec damage

[dawn torrent]

There are no words for the insanity that is my cyte-09

[dawn torrent]

I have 5 purple tauforged shards in him for 375%elec

[summer cobalt]

Same, it is a great feeling on him.

[fluid spear]

Ooo
I have him just full send on ability strength

[dawn torrent]

Oh? No galv savvy?

[fluid spear]

Actually reminds me I need to grind out a second Cyte to subsume

[dawn torrent]

Or does it just not make a difference at that point?

[fluid spear]

My friend has a stupid Harrow build involving Cyte’s invis

[summer cobalt]

Got more than enough Base Damage for it to not matter

If you want it, use the Cleanse as a Flex.

[dawn torrent]

Sounds about right

[summer cobalt]

Like, the Magnetic mod would be perfect for example

I should slot it next time

[dawn torrent]

I love the new magnetic and radiation mods

[fluid spear]

I love that man. He did Janus Vor with the Stug lmao

[summer cobalt]

Same man. They’re such a nice QOL mod

[dawn torrent]

[visible horror]

[fluid spear]

Oh you have no idea
I would honestly safely say he has fully mastered Warframe’s modding system

[summer cobalt]

Kingly behavior

[dawn torrent]

I must learn the ways

[summer cobalt]

Once modding is mastered. There are no limits to anything. And it gets better each update

Horrors that shouldn’t be possible are now child’s play

[fluid spear]

This man made Trin into an offensive Frame

[summer cobalt]

I used the Link Self Damage shenanigans she had back in the day

[fluid spear]

His entire schtick is taking frames and weapons that should not go together, and making them go together

[dawn torrent]

Ok but like real talk how TF do I make a build that survives shit like temporal archimedea or wtv

[summer cobalt]

Such is the life of a true Veteran. No amount of play time beats that

[fluid spear]

Funnily enough he’s actually the newest of our friend group that plays Warframe, he started like
A year and a half ago

Cos the main thing is he doesn’t actually view Warframe as a shooter, because it really isn’t
It’s an RPG wearing a shooter blanket

[dawn torrent]

It's an RPG with RPG's

[errant solstice]

when will kullervo farm be made easier for players its literally like a minimum of 3hrs of SP circuit or am i missing something

[pearl parcel]

bad

[dawn torrent]

Umm, what?

[errant solstice]

7 kullervo banes roughly every 30mins 6 runs

[dawn torrent]

....

He has a boss fight where you get more

Go to duviri experience

[errant solstice]

the boss fights 6-8

[fluid spear]

You beat the hell out of him in experience yeah

[dawn torrent]

Yeah, that's what you get for it

[errant solstice]

Yeah which is 30mins a full circuit run

[fluid spear]

Actually reminds me speaking of Duviri, I wanna try out the Vasto Incarnon
Just got it

[errant solstice]

bloody great weapon for disruption

[dawn torrent]

Yeah but you don't need to do SP for it

Because SP sucks dicx

[fluid spear]

I’m finally stepping out of my comfort zone and not just running Harrow with the Kuva Kohm on everything lmao

[dawn torrent]

Elaborate

[dawn torrent]

Also if you think farming for this is bad go farm for Nokko

his farm is ASS

[pearl parcel]

• damage to grineer is bad

[summer cobalt]

Honestly I don’t play ETA much. Either its modifiers are complete BS. Or it bugs out. So I usually just do EDA and 3 Netracells

[pearl parcel]

unless you fully ignore the grineer, then do as you please i suppose

[dawn torrent]

As stated before, the damage to grineer is fine, it still absolutely smacks them off the face of earth(and mars, and all the other grineer planets)

[pearl parcel]

then use it, but i personally wouldnt

[elder lodge]

Tennogen ui and theme when 😗

[pearl parcel]

and please stop pinging me, i very much do not like bright colors

[dawn torrent]

Same question, how do I make something that can survive deep archimedea?

[pearl parcel]

play oryx, you get unreasonable sums of health taht constantly refill and, if you use equilibrium, infinite energy

[dawn torrent]

Oryx?

[pearl parcel]

oryx yes

the best frame

[dawn torrent]

TF is this? Destiny?

[pearl parcel]

no, this is war frame, and i'm a spider lad

[dawn torrent]

You mean oraxia?

[pearl parcel]

yes, oryx

[summer cobalt]

Depends on what survivability method you enjoy most. Health Tanking, Shield Tanking, Shield Gating. Overguard.

[dawn torrent]

....

[dawn torrent]

I thought that over guard straight up just didn't work at later levels, cuz whenever I play Dante in the techrot encounter in space, they just immediately strip off all my overguard

Or is that just me having shit for over guard

[summer cobalt]

On the contrary. I am a Dante main. And have never known death

[dawn torrent]

Or is it some other wacky option C that the techrot can just do that

[pearl parcel]

to a degree it's all three

[summer cobalt]

His Overguard gets its power at high levels from regenerating on kill. Keeping up Overguard Gate. Or if you keep up Casting Triumph to have a wall of it.

[pearl parcel]

but try oryx, you wont regret it
and possibly swap webbed embrace with smite, thats what i did

[dawn torrent]

"Stop pinging me"
Pings me

[pearl parcel]

when you ask me to stop pinging you i will

[summer cobalt]

No, with the Techrot they have a lot of AoE DoTs. And just some plain old powerful hits.

[dawn torrent]

If I was gonna swap something I'd swap the ability that spawns the scuttlers

Didn't mean to ping you there sorry

[pearl parcel]

objectively incorrect, perish, and stop pinging me

[dawn torrent]

Idk the scuttlers are mid

[summer cobalt]

Die then stop annoying. Love that from the grave combo

I also take personal offense to that

[dawn torrent]

They don't last long enough or do a meaningful amount of damage

[pearl parcel]

smite instaclears all overguard, shield, and armor from a target
webbed embrace gives a meager 30% damage culn

[summer cobalt]

Scuttlers are great

Not what they’re supposed to do.

[dawn torrent]

Doesn't it scale over time?

[pearl parcel]

scuttlers arent the main draw of what his 3 does
it's the mass, guaranteed poison procs and (with archontinuity) armor strip

[dawn torrent]

Oraxia is a girl

[summer cobalt]

Scuttlers, are there to soften targets up who are away from you. To use your first on to insta kill for Orbs. And then, Archon Continuity

[pearl parcel]

my oryx is a guy

[thorn finch]

please dont get him started

[pearl parcel]

when you make your own you can call him as you please

[summer cobalt]

Plus, Scuttlers are bros

[pearl parcel]

scuttlers are indeed bros

[summer cobalt]

That’s what I’m saying, keeps calling her Oryx for whatever reason

[pearl parcel]

hey when yo umake your own oryx you can call him whatever

i spent the resources and time to make this one, its my dude oryx

[thorn finch]

I do have my own

[dawn torrent]

Dude is actually delusional

[summer cobalt]

Like may as well call Dante Dan or something lmao

[pearl parcel]

and you can call it as you please, i dont stop you

but dont tell me what to call mine

[thorn finch]

i never did

[pearl parcel]

exactly

sylvie is trying to, and it's quite rude

[dawn torrent]

I'm advocating for the correct gender use because as a trans person I find your refusal to use their canon gender offensive

[summer cobalt]

But back to the topic at hand. It depends on what you prefer to stay alive. And what your Frame is best built for. But some can use a different method besides.

[pearl parcel]

it's my frame, if i cared about canon or lore i wouldnt be making cancer rays and buzzsaw explosive launchers

[summer cobalt]

He absolutely will not care, and may use that very reason to rile you up. Best not to let it get to you

[pearl parcel]

or The Radiation Stick

which is literally just a stick engineered to deal maximum radiation damage

good surviving frames are Oryx, Limbo (if you know how he works fully), valkyr if i remember right, garuda is a good one

oberon, wukong is literally immortal i think

[thorn finch]

Wukong has 4 lives

[pearl parcel]

yeah and he actively recovers them mid fight

[dawn torrent]

I have Valkyr but ngl I'm looking for someone who isn't just a walking wall of armor

[summer cobalt]

That isn’t anywhere close to correct

[pearl parcel]

valks 4 makes him immorta doesnt it?

[dawn torrent]

Her, and no

[pearl parcel]

or is that pre-nerf

[summer cobalt]

Health Tanking not your style?

[pseudo forge]

pretty sure this is the same guy who complained about the existing story not being about War Crime Simulator so i don't think you'll get through to them

[amber trench]

valkyr 4 doesn't make her immortal, not since the rework

[thorn finch]

Valkyr is a very angry wall of armor

[pearl parcel]

ah damn i'm thinking pre-rework, apologies

[amber trench]

she has death gate passive now though

[pearl parcel]

havent played much valk since

[dawn torrent]

More I'm just getting bored of playing her cuz I've played her so much recently

[pearl parcel]

to be fair i solely play this as war crime simulator

[summer cobalt]

Fair enough, she’s fun as hell. But I totally get it being stale. I jump from frame to frame.

[amber trench]

limbo presents unique gameplay
Most frames can kill things but struggle to stay alive
Limbo has no issue staying alive, but must kill things

[pearl parcel]

i made a stick that's entire purpose is to be unreasonably radioactive

just because

[summer cobalt]

I heard.

[pearl parcel]

its very fun to use

[amber trench]

What kind of stick?

[pearl parcel]

the radioactive kind

[dawn torrent]

Yeah she's a lot of fun when she makes it possible to achieve a 20x critical multiplier but eventually you get bored of punching/slashing/whipping/hammering/otherwise using a melee weapon to send your enemies into the next life

[amber trench]

Moddable tree branch when

[pearl parcel]

i made an edun i just yeet into crowds and watch it devolve into a cod zombies match

i think i got up to like 170% status chance

[summer cobalt]

Yeah, same. I move between Weapons Platforms, Melee Frames, and Casters for that exact reason. Never play the same type twice. Except for Fashion honestly

[strong field]

An angry immovable object

[summer cobalt]

Oh she moves, just in your direction very quickly

[dawn torrent]

Didn't like IFlynn get in trouble for refusing to use flare's correct pronouns?

[summer cobalt]

No

[summer cobalt]

It was Knightmareframe.

[strong field]

I meant the other way around. She's unkillable

[dawn torrent]

I knew it was someone

[pearl parcel]

to a degree oryx is all three, with instakill monch, heavy heavy health guard with his 4, and angy bolts of poison

[thorn finch]

I love valkyr, she's my danger kitty

[summer cobalt]

And I meant it as a joke, in regards to her anger.

[pearl parcel]

valk is fun but melee combat in this game is rather lame, it's just spam light attacks

[dawn torrent]

I have so many cool Valkyr fashion frames

[summer cobalt]

I loved Valkyr pre rework. Her prime looked great. And I loved the feel of her 4. Post Rework, it’s all double down

[dawn torrent]

Brother has never heard of the corufell

[pearl parcel]

correct, vas ist das

[dawn torrent]

It's a heavy scythe that, on light attacks, attacks as expected, but on a heavy attack it turns into a gun.

[thorn finch]

A scythe that is a gun

[amber trench]

light attack slam, 5x heavy spam, 12x heavy slam, slam, Contagion

[pearl parcel]

ok but it's still just a light attack spam with a gun

does it have piercing?

[dawn torrent]

Yes

[summer cobalt]

So close. Try again

[pearl parcel]

does it have high status chacne

[amber trench]

Theres a good number of melee weapon build styles

[dawn torrent]

High crit actually

[pearl parcel]

damn

i wanted status chacne to make it do war crimes

[dawn torrent]

I have a riven for it that makes it do warcrimed

[summer cobalt]

I’m actually glad at how diverse Melee play styles are now

[pearl parcel]

oh

[pseudo forge]

using any melee as light attack spam like that makes it boring, yea

[dawn torrent]

YESSSS

[thorn finch]

@dawn torrent my valk

[dawn torrent]

I saw ❤️

[summer cobalt]

I am excited for Corufell Prime.

[pearl parcel]

lemme go get oryx

[dawn torrent]

If you look through captura you can see a few of my Valkyr's

[pearl parcel]

now is this corufell cooler than Vitrica

[dawn torrent]

IS IT CONFIRMED?

[thorn finch]

I never use captura, mainly cause I forget it exists

[amber trench]

Steflos Prime hopefully fixes the weapon

[summer cobalt]

I mean, when Citirne comes. Which should be soon

Sometime next year

[dawn torrent]

I have a riven for it.

[pseudo forge]

within the next year or so, yea?

[pearl parcel]

behold: oryx

[thorn finch]

Its a signature weapon, doesnt need confirmation

[summer cobalt]

Gotta be Early or Middle. Regardless I’m buying her asap. Love Citirne

[pearl parcel]

i cant wait for oryx augments, hopefully we get the wall walking DE promised us when he first released

[pseudo forge]

real
i still need to get her deluxe
No Plat lol

[summer cobalt]

Dude her Deluxe is amazing. I wasted no time on it

[true kayak]

What are the odds steflos prime is decent?

[pseudo forge]

tbf they promised it if it worked well enough
clearly it didn't, so she shipped without it

[daring parrot]

apparently oraxia is a guy now

[summer cobalt]

High, and I don’t use it like at all.

[pearl parcel]

its' a crime to have spider frame without wall walking, here's to hoping they figure it out

[summer cobalt]

That guy is all kinds of weird. Pay no mind

[dawn torrent]

Nah it's just some guy with no regard for canon or trans ppl

[amber trench]

Dante has ZERO augments yet meanwhile Qorvex has like 2

[summer cobalt]

TELL ME ABOUT IT

[dawn torrent]

Other frames have like 5

[pearl parcel]

mine is

[pseudo forge]

dante doesn't need augments

[thorn finch]

Ruvox and Onos prime are gonna be sweet

[summer cobalt]

They better be making something JUICY for my boy

[amber trench]

Other frames came out when I was in kindergarten

[pseudo forge]

caliban didn't have any until almost right before his prime

[pearl parcel]

limbo has like 4 augments, my poor, poor lad atlas gets rumbled

[dawn torrent]

This is true

[amber trench]

Limbo has 3 augments

[dawn torrent]

Atlas doesn't need augments

[pearl parcel]

hey i said like 4

[summer cobalt]

Titanic Rumbler is an occasional pick. Having one massive Rock Man is sick as hell

[dawn torrent]

Ok this is the one augment I can get behind

[thorn finch]

Ore gaze+path of statues is really good for getting scan data

[dawn torrent]

Ah I just scan with ivara

[pseudo forge]

i think i only grabbed Ore Gaze for uhh nekros shenanigans
i don't know of any other atlas augments

[summer cobalt]

You guys manually scan?

[pearl parcel]

titanic rumbler sounds sick

[amber trench]

yeah Qorvex came out right before Dante and has two augments to Dante's zero
Is it just impossible to make an augment for the frame that does it all?

[dawn torrent]

I like the vibe of it

[pearl parcel]

i hope when we get oryx augments we get one for a big ass spooder summon

[summer cobalt]

Just bring out my boy Helios and Noctua.

[pearl parcel]

you only get like 2 of them but they're superchaged

[amber trench]

They should mix Atlas Rumbled with the big Rumbler so you play as a kaiju

[summer cobalt]

Clear a faction in one day

[summer cobalt]

I second this.

[dawn torrent]

I love this idea

[pearl parcel]

make him nechramech sized and let him use archmelee weapons in this form

[thorn finch]

A kaijuframe would be a dream come true

[dawn torrent]

YESSSS

[true kayak]

Then get caught on every other door frame

[pearl parcel]

give me gigatlas

[summer cobalt]

Atlas the Power Ranger.

[amber trench]

shut

[dawn torrent]

*crash through them like necramechs

[pseudo forge]

atlas rework is the exalted necramech frame

[amber trench]

let my idea sound cool

[summer cobalt]

Small price to pay

[pearl parcel]

tbf in the ship missions where you're allowed to use a nechramech it just cheats and clips you through

so who gives a damn

[summer cobalt]

Right over your head.

[dawn torrent]

This is the one good take you have

All ur other takes are boiled garbage

[pearl parcel]

coda weapons shouldnt be MR locked, yknow like EVERY OTHER LICH WEAPON

[amber trench]

and then the kaiju Rumbler scales with your Landslide mods
Statsticking is back and it's name is LANDSLIDE

[summer cobalt]

Low ball take.

[dawn torrent]

I like MR locking

[pearl parcel]

coda weapons were an unnecessary and strange deviation from teh tried and true lich formula that's utterly worse for wear

[pseudo forge]

tenet melees lol
eh, they could be a little lower, but i think the MR locks for coda weapons are fine

[thorn finch]

Wow i am going to bed

[summer cobalt]

I disagree completely

[pearl parcel]

i dont because 90% of the weapons are just generico dogshit ar's or something like that and its lame as hell

[dawn torrent]

Womp womp play the game

[pearl parcel]

tenet melees arent lich weapons really, they use a currency unrelated to liches and are only similar in name

[dawn torrent]

Progress with the MR system

[hybrid gorge]

Hey i need help but where i can get good quality wallpapers

[true kayak]

Sporothrix is nice

[pearl parcel]

that's just rude, the MR system is inherently flawed cause it's a collectathon and not an actual progression system

[amber trench]

I need to farm more holokeys
I want some of them tenet melee weapons

[summer cobalt]

Most progression systems are just that my man.

[amber trench]

I hear Tenet Exec is cool

[dawn torrent]

It's so much fun

[true kayak]

It’s like sampotes

[pearl parcel]

it doesnt tie your level to feats you've accomplished, like destiny does, it ties your level to "oh how many assault rifles can you bear to make, level, nd instantly throw away before you get a headache"

[pseudo forge]

i think what's really funny is that most of the "generico dogshit ars" are the super early weapons and the rest are fairly good and/or unique

[dawn torrent]

It's low-key one of my favorite melees ever

[pearl parcel]

for every bubonico theres at least 12 veldts

[dawn torrent]

Cuz I have a riven for it that adds a crap ton of crit so the heavy slams go crazy

[dawn torrent]

This, like there are so many interesting and unique weapons from the dojo spots

[pearl parcel]

yeah, 10 mutagens later

[amber trench]

I'm kinda mad Warframe has only 2 arm cannon weapons (Onos don't count)

[summer cobalt]

Gotva Prime and AX-52 for example

[pearl parcel]

bubonico, shedu, and that other one

[dawn torrent]

Craft them as you play the game to farm other weapons

[amber trench]

Shedu and Bubonico are both so cool but like
There's only those two

[pearl parcel]

its all just more god damn waiting, and please stop pinging me

[summer cobalt]

Generic Automatic Rifles, but both bring so much to the category

[pearl parcel]

im like 90% certain theres a third arm cannon

[dawn torrent]

Warframe is waiting, and sorry discord automatically does it

[pseudo forge]

this is why coda bubonico is a good idea

[amber trench]

I need to target farm mutagen masses and the other two resources

[amber trench]

That's cool, but it's also not a new weapon

Like where is the Grineer arm cannon

[dawn torrent]

Fieldron and Detonite

[amber trench]

Or a Corpus arm cannon

[dawn torrent]

Veilbreaker

[amber trench]

I know what they are, thanks

[summer cobalt]

Opticor Arm Cannon

[pseudo forge]

Onos, from the entrati labs, which they said didn't count (because its only an arm cannon in incarnon form prolly)

[pearl parcel]

we need an upscaled version of the Lens as an arm cannon

[dawn torrent]

Would this not just be like the sonicor/staticor?

[summer cobalt]

No, those are explosions. Opticor is just a large laser

[pearl parcel]

give me the same heavy damage and blast radius set up as a lens, but on a battery/reactor system that slowly recoups its blasts, the heavy arm cannon equivalent

[dawn torrent]

Well yeah I get that I just mean like design wise

[amber trench]

Yeah it's more of a wrist launcher at base
The Incarnon form is sick as heck though, I love the onos

[summer cobalt]

Those are wrist mounted, we’re talking Full arm covering armament

[dawn torrent]

So a hybrid between the lenz, opticor, and Cycron?

[amber trench]

But there's only TWO traditional ones

Bubonico and Shedu

[summer cobalt]

What we need is an Orokin Arm Cannon. Tried and True gold

[pearl parcel]

i mean to a degree but by that logic bubonico is just a shotgun with a mortar

[pseudo forge]

more arm cannons
more assault saws
these are my demands

[amber trench]

Shedu Prime with Caliban Prime
We got scammed

[dawn torrent]

Like it'd fit on our short arms

[dawn torrent]

I mean so is the corinth-

[pearl parcel]

exactly

[summer cobalt]

Tell me about it dude. It would’ve been perfect. I use a Frostbite Shedu on him sometimes and man.

[pearl parcel]

but seriously, make it the heavy, low ammo and fire rate one, dealing heavy damage and blast or pierce, or make it a miter incarnon thing where it blasts on first hit and pierces the rest

give it immense damage but like, 1 new shot every second or two

still fitting the limited use theme of lenz and such post nerf, but now featuring immense damage to match

[amber trench]

Nidus with Bubonico is a fun combo
Looks really good together too

[pearl parcel]

especially with his armored skin

[summer cobalt]

Especially with his Virulence Augment

[amber trench]

I love Nidus
If they ever fix his multiplayer issue, I'm going to play him in every mission

[dawn torrent]

What's wrong with him

[pearl parcel]

my all time favorite frame functionally and gimick wise is limbo

but for functionality in high levels its my boi oryx

[summer cobalt]

He’s a great comfort pick for solo

[amber trench]

Every public lobby has a Saryn Sobek killing the tileset before I can get stacks

[dawn torrent]

Ah yeah I get that

[amber trench]

which sucks because Nidus has such good multiplayer potential with tether

[dawn torrent]

Valkyr has the same problem

[amber trench]

Multiplicative ability strength is so broken as a concept but it's hard to use when you can't hit stuff

[dawn torrent]

Yeah

[summer cobalt]

If not solo, Nidus is especially great at a Coordinated Duo.

[amber trench]

Like if I tether a Wisp and the Wisp is doing a max strength build, they get motes that snapshot like 1500% strength

[harsh marsh]

Wisp is a fun support frame

[summer cobalt]

Or ungodly levels of Overguard from Dante,

[dawn torrent]

Has anyone here seen what happens when you tether to a Nokko and then he drops a brightbonnet and a 4?

[amber trench]

Or if I tether a Saryn, the Saryn clears even harder
But Saryn clearing means I don't have stacks
Tether should give you stacks when a linked ally gets kills

[amber trench]

stuff dies, I'm guessing?

Brightbonnet is very funny

[dawn torrent]

It all dies very quickly

[tranquil kayak]

Sometimes I just don't know if it's a Bugframe moment or not.

[dawn torrent]

Because then everyone has stupid ability strength

[tranquil kayak]

I have realised this is because of a radiation mushroom of course

[pearl parcel]

have you tried k-nukor boosed by oryx 4 with all chaining mods and max status chance?

put on a sickly neon green energy and you have a rave

[tranquil kayak]

lmao why my operator gazing like this

[amber trench]

your just shroomin, fam

[dawn torrent]

No but my cyte with the tenet Cycron does something very similar in blue

[amber trench]

cyte Sobek my beloved

[pearl parcel]

max out punch through for chaining, use oryx's 4 for its little poison burst on kill, and jack up the status chance, now you have RGB headache inducement

[dawn torrent]

Cyte with 5 tauforged violet shards turns any primary or secondary just insane

Especially when you get a big boost to strength to use your exalted sniper

[pearl parcel]

wht does violet shard do

[amber trench]

pure magnetic neutralizer does some juicy damage

[dawn torrent]

+375% electricity damage when 5 tauforged violets are slotted

[pearl parcel]

does this exist for toxic damage

[amber trench]

no

[pearl parcel]

laaaaaaaaaaaaame

[dawn torrent]

Unfortunately not but you can get HP back whenever toxin deals damage

[amber trench]

I'm planning on doing 4 with a cast speed

[summer cobalt]

There’s a boost to the Toxin DoT itself

[pearl parcel]

oh?

[summer cobalt]

Which is incredibly strong

[devout burrow]

You can get extra dmg for toxin dots

[amber trench]

Neutralizer will be going in the pocket often so I can trash clear with Sobek

[dawn torrent]

Green archon shards go crazy

[summer cobalt]

Under no circumstances use Toxin Heals you.

[dawn torrent]

The green archon shard

[pearl parcel]

how do i make a green archon shard

[dawn torrent]

With a blue and yellow archon shard

[willow bluff]

Color awareness

[pearl parcel]

im colorblind you ass

i've told you this before as well

[willow bluff]

Go in settings and fix it

[pearl parcel]

no like

[willow bluff]

[pearl parcel]

grey kinda colorblind

[amber trench]

bros living in a 50s TV show

[dawn torrent]

You can get green archon shards from the 1999 calendar, or by making it from a blue and yellow archon shard

[pearl parcel]

less of that and more various kinds of grey

i can tell contrast, i can tell shiny from not shiny, or transparent from not transparent, and i can tell most colors from eachother, but i cant tell you what color is which

[dawn torrent]

And with 5 tauforged green shards you can make toxin do 225% more damage

[pearl parcel]

thats why i use giga high contrast discord and hate pings, it's bright as shit and gives me a headache, also makes things harder to read

[amber trench]

@pearl parcel there is nothing of value in this message and you read it anyway

[dawn torrent]

Or you can make it so toxin procs heal you for 15 hp every time they deal damage

[pearl parcel]

bastard

[amber trench]

someone go make Cold Elemental Ward Koumei and go to level cap

[pearl parcel]

it's still mean cause of the headache thing, ive had this one long enough i dont need it to be worse

[dawn torrent]

Heat elemental ward Valkyr goes crazy

Heat elemental ward oraxia also goes crazy

Esp in tandem with her 4

[pearl parcel]

what is elemental ward

[amber trench]

Chroma's subsume

[dawn torrent]

It's an ability that can give you over double your current amount of HP

[pearl parcel]

lame

[dawn torrent]

It goes crazy on inaros

[amber trench]

When you feed Chroma to Helminth, you can give your frames Elemental Ward which has 4 different possible effects

[pearl parcel]

also, bastard

[amber trench]

that one was unintentional

Ninjase Cold Ward Koumei health tank build
Apparently works at level cap
https://overframe.gg/build/891348/

[summer cobalt]

Ninjase mention, nice.

[pearl parcel]

i dont like chroma because it requires me to use a single specific color for my energy

[civic oxide]

man sevagoth really needs some help making his 4th better, cause it just dosent compete with his 1 2 nuke combo which need roar subsumed

[dawn torrent]

Cold elemental ward buffs armor right?

[pearl parcel]

which is quite difficult because, if oyu recall, i cannot see colors

[amber trench]

Yeah, which with the one decree Koumei can roll is both defense and offense

[uncut night]

Gratler punch through kinda makes zero sense

[dawn torrent]

Cold elemental ward Valkyr?

[amber trench]

Since there's a decree that gives strength scaling with armor up to 500%, Cold Ward can give you 500% strength

[pearl parcel]

what does fire ward oryx do

[dawn torrent]

SHEEEEESH

[dawn torrent]

10k health

[pearl parcel]

bastard

[dawn torrent]

I sorry

Its not intentional

[pearl parcel]

that's just my default reply to ping at this point

just the simple word of "bastard"

[amber trench]

The only caveat with cold ward Koumei is you have to hit that one decree for it to be insane, meaning you have to get lucky on decrees or go long with Omikuji's Fortune and brute force it

[pearl parcel]

can you say this again without the bright color

because i genuinely cannot read that

[amber trench]

they said 10k health

[dawn torrent]

10k health

[pearl parcel]

danke, i already have 10k health tho

[dawn torrent]

...how

[willow bluff]

Said almost every neat koumei build

[pearl parcel]

266% strength oryx is a different kind of drug

[summer cobalt]

“Oryx”

[amber trench]

true...

All good things with Koumei come with luck

[pearl parcel]

once bellicose and molt augmented are factored it's easily 400% strength

[amber trench]

Koumei is a great melee platform
Lots of the decrees she can roll boost melee

[willow bluff]

Acid Shells too

[dawn torrent]

That's why

[pearl parcel]

yues

that's what i literally said
also, bastard

[amber trench]

Oraxia players when I pick Nidus
(They get 6 digits of health)

[dawn torrent]

Ur gonna get banned lol

[pearl parcel]

ok that's misleading because nidus is literally immortal if you have at least 30 stacks

[willow bluff]

1350 & 720 health
Easy peasy

[dawn torrent]

The second one on coda hema

[amber trench]

Nidus is also immortal if I have adaptation, Parasitic Vitality and some form of armor

And then if I lose stacks I just get them back

[pearl parcel]

i've been giving big shit for months, it's a running joke at this point

[willow bluff]

Finally 100% CC

[pearl parcel]

also you continually ping me, after i've asked you like 4 times to not because of headache reasons

[dawn torrent]

It's not intentional, discord automatically makes it ping you when I respond to you, I just forget to disable it sometimes accidentally

If it's really that bad like go lie down or something

Take some ibuprofen and drink some water

[pearl parcel]

i've had this headache since early december, that will not help

[dawn torrent]

Then go see a fkin doctor

[pearl parcel]

poverty

thats the same reason i havent sought treatment for my adhd or the blood coughing hting

[dawn torrent]

Go see a doctor and tell them your name is John smith and you've forgotten your information at home three states over

[pearl parcel]

both of which are why i'm so damn bitter, it hurts to see or to breath at times

[willow bluff]

That Coda Hema with augment is like Outburst for a primary weapon.

Reminds me of ocucor augment

[amber trench]

hmmmm
have you drank water

[pearl parcel]

often yes

[dawn torrent]

If you're coughing blood you're most likely seriously ill and in need of medical assistance

Like you're gonna die if you don't, please go get help

[pearl parcel]

ehh, it fixed itself in january

it'll fix itself again, and if it doesnt then it aint my problem anymore

[dawn torrent]

Men.

Idiots, the lot of them.

[willow bluff]

We now know what will happen if we ping u and u finally don't show up

[pearl parcel]

dont even pull that card, you were one at some point i think

that or i have it the wrong way around

frankly i'm very confused as i only recently learned of the concept

[dawn torrent]

I mean you're not wrong but also I was not an idiot like my former compatriots

I was careful, smart, calculated

[pearl parcel]

ok so i do have it the right way around, you're duden't

[dawn torrent]

It's a little ineloquent but yeah you have the right idea

[pearl parcel]

i'm a redneck, you're in the wrong damn place if you expect a well put together explanation

i live in the woods and do blacksmithy and play dnd with zoe

[dawn torrent]

I could tell

You remind me of my grandpa tbqf

[pearl parcel]

i cant tell if that's a good thing or not

[dawn torrent]

It's both

He's a solid dude when it comes to hard labor but he's racist and homophobic

[summer cobalt]

Get what you’re saying. Still hurtful to me though.

[dawn torrent]

You're an exception

[pearl parcel]

ah, yeah i've worked as a groundskeeper for a couple years but quit to work on college more, idc what people do as long as i'm left to do my thing

as long as the food stays cheap and the steel stays available i'm chilling

[summer cobalt]

While that’s nice and all, it’s still a reductive generalist statement. And I get the feeling behind it. But also you don’t really know me outside of our limited interactions

[dawn torrent]

It was more meant to just insult him but I understand, though I have to say you seem a lot better informed than our.... Aquaintance over here

[pearl parcel]

it also doesnt account for anything outside of certain things, i have an associates degree in cybersecurity, i'm just poor and too stubborn to try and get treatment without paying for it

i see it as theft and wrong and am not willing to go that far

[summer cobalt]

That’s just two wrongs and trying to make it a right.

Can’t neglect your health

[dawn torrent]

Dude it's not theft when they make trillions off your suffering

[summer cobalt]

Especially seeing how bad it is apparently, I mean not addressing Coughing up Blood?

[pearl parcel]

i mean it fixed itself before

[summer cobalt]

That’s not how that works

[dawn torrent]

Like hospitals mark up everything by like 500-1000% to get more money from insurance companies

[pearl parcel]

besides if it was serious zoe would have dragged me to go get treatment, it'll probably be ok

[summer cobalt]

It may go away temporarily, but it never fixes itself

[dawn torrent]

If you ask for the cash price they slash everything since the insurance isn't on the line

[summer cobalt]

And always request an Itemized bill

[dawn torrent]

And look up prices on their website, if they charge you more for anything dispute it

Gods what a dystopia it is where we have to do shit like this in order to get people the healthcare they need

[pearl parcel]

when i have the time i'll go and see if i can do that

itsl ike 3 am tho i gotta have a nap, auf wiedersehen

[summer cobalt]

Seriously man, glad I’m in good health. And pray to the Gods it stays that way.

[pearl parcel]

Besides its not a lot of blood, it's just a little bit

If it was full Arthur Morgan black lung id be more concerned

Anyway, night guys

[frail tree]

the laetum is damn near impossible to use with this new recoil system dawg it pisses me off

[summer cobalt]

Not long left til that gets fix. Hold out just a little longer

[frail tree]

its okay I fixed it. (I put on a recoil reduction mod LMAO)

so peak

how to get to this door

nvm I figured it out

[willow bluff]

And this is how u fell for Baro's trap

[tiny dragon]

Behind you, there's a platform held up by 4 parts that have big wires on them. One doesnt have a wire but instead a vent on the ceiling, go through there

[bright skiff]

has anyone used ogris mod the lingering thermite or something? it feels like its not working

[pliant trench]

u mean napalm augment + firestorm mod?

[pine briar]

Hi

[bright skiff]

yes

theres no lingering damage

[tiny dragon]

Nightwatch Napalm is the one. It isnt currently working correctly, according to the patch notes

[bright skiff]

oh i see thanks!

[rigid sleet]

can anyone explained what's changed about doing bounties for aya ? if i go to deimos for brute force am i going to start getting bounties that were'nt part of brute force before ?

[crystal sail]

does anyone know how the way to get up there?

[tiny dragon]

There's a console to your left, hack it. Above the console is a balcony of sorts with a reactive crystal that spawns after hacking. Shoot it with op form

[crystal sail]

got it thanksss

i broke it accidentally and had to wait for necramite to fix it💀

[tiny dragon]

Well the console was probably behind you but still

[rigid sleet]

i thought this was repetition the game tho

[keen shore]

The most effective Aya farm was cetus with the rotations of capture agent with no kills,drone,cache, free prisoner those could be speed run through seconds with the esc and night wave shii but now it rotates

I was getting clear the area n prevent them from taking it

I did one where the drone part wasn't even in the rotation but it was the right bounty

Now,Aya is expensive as hell I haven't tried Deimos yet idk if brute force was changed too

[sudden tendon]

gotta have more people spend regal aya for real money in prime resurgence

[sudden tendon]

the aya farm was good for everyone regardless if u did it or not

idk why people are happy its gone

[rotund pilot]

finally got it

[sudden tendon]

all its gonna do is make aya more expensive and those relics more rare

[keen shore]

Oh yeah relic prices are already up

Octavia n Nezha prime sets are gonna be even more expensive

[sudden tendon]

very basic thing that those people for some reason cant comprehend

[pastel niche]

well, thats new

[cerulean cedar]

Would warframe 2 be something like Helldivers 2?

[tiny dragon]

Yeah, but the other way around, it would be isometric or top down

[willow bluff]

Double the War
Double the Frame

[cerulean cedar]

No need to double the frame

[willow bluff]

[cerulean cedar]

Nezha alone can do a good mess

[willow bluff]

An open world party of 10 warframes

(coz why 8?)

[balmy wraith]

which elements are techrot weak to?

[toxic pagoda]

how many bounties do I have to play to get nightcap to level 5?

[cerulean cedar]

Toxin, viral, gas

[pliant trench]

if u done and luck on ur side should be 50 runs, between the three bounty

each bounty got diff spawn rate for mushroom

to speed up the analyze, buy the musroom via nightca[

[wraith gyro]

is there anything new about the game after the gauss prime pack?

[compact sable]

gauss was ages ago lol

[wraith gyro]

is there new worlds or anything other than quests?

[elder lodge]

Significant. Like 4 new frames, 2 quests, damage attenuation changes, recoil change, and much more

[wraith gyro]

did the weapon meta change as well?

[compact sable]

not really

1999 added some things that made some strong options even stronger

[elder lodge]

Archguns get arcanes so kind of, but its mostly the same

[compact sable]

but most of the stuff that used to be meta are still meta

[wraith gyro]

alr

are the new warframes any good?

[compact sable]

they're decent, nothing huge though

[elder lodge]

Yes

[compact sable]

worth grinding if that's what you're asking

[wraith gyro]

alright

[compact sable]

but the top dogs from pre-gauss are still on top, yeah, there hasn't really been a shakeup there

[wraith gyro]

oh

oof

[compact sable]

actually the exalted change did make some frames like excalibur way stronger than they used to be but

[wraith gyro]

but?

[compact sable]

we are still in saryn wisp revenant gaming, lol

the new frames have not been particularly impactful in that regard

[wraith gyro]

lmao

[compact sable]

like they're worth playing but they haven't dethroned anyone if that makes sense

[lofty garden]

just use hildryn

[wraith gyro]

is there heavy nerfs?

[compact sable]

in MY warframe? never

[wraith gyro]

i use most warframes

[pliant trench]

only nerf so far is slash

[wraith gyro]

no warframe abil related nerfs?

[pliant trench]

none

[compact sable]

slam got a bit of a love tap but nothing substantial

[wraith gyro]

cool

[pliant trench]

garuda still niche w slash proc, since it guarantee proc but she cant overcome lvl cap

[lofty garden]

slam was nerfed into the ground.

[vale falcon]

Slam range just scales with the height you started it at, damage wasn't largely changed

[elder lodge]

lavos p is nice, oraxia is a powerhouse, everything new is expanded playstyle options. levelcap sweats just gunna still use the easiest meta because thats the schtik

[pliant trench]

still manageable, not that heavy nerf, just non spamable

[compact sable]

oraxia is budget saryn is the thing

jade shadows was a pretty big change, actually

[elder lodge]

zephyr manages

[compact sable]

that was the slash nerf, the meta is viral heat now

[lofty garden]

you used to be able to break the containers in hydron’s starting room from the center of the container circle. now, you can’t

[wraith gyro]

its still viral heat?

[compact sable]

yeah lol

[wraith gyro]

:/

[compact sable]

basically enemy armour has been capped at 90% so viral slash is p much deader than disco

[elder lodge]

I mean everything works well now

[compact sable]

corro cold is kinda gone too

[lofty garden]

it’s a problem for height-challenged situations

[vale falcon]

Mag heat is used to deal with over guard as well, so basically heat took over outside of melee, which still elec for melee influence

[compact sable]

🤨

mag progenitors maybe

but you don't really have to build specifically for overguard now that secondary fortifier is a thing

[vale falcon]

Because of the magnetic mods it is easier to build for it, secondary fort is definitely best if you can fit it in

[tiny dragon]

Its nice to have magnetic if you dont run Fortifier

And yeah, for some weapons its an easy slot

[compact sable]

its not replacing viral though

viral is pretty much on absolutely everything

[tiny dragon]

Thats true but you've got a bunch of ways to get viral outsourced

If youre in the lategame then thats what youre doing anyways

[vivid fractal]

what is orange helminth cyst for?

[tiny dragon]

The coda cyst?

[vale falcon]

To tell you that a coda exists in 1999

[vivid fractal]

its dead tho

[vale falcon]

Ok that's strange, that should've disappeared when you killed it, maybe play another random mission and it might disappear I guess

[elder plover]

Hey, pls listen this
Someone on another server said this Nokko's back looks like the Fragmented Tide

This nokko's back looks like it, don't it?

[hybrid gorge]

i need help

i cant do damage i tried both way warframes and operator both

help

what i am doing wrong

[leaden obsidian]

What amp do you have

@hybrid gorge

[hybrid gorge]

whats that

[leaden obsidian]

Operator weapon

[hybrid gorge]

i dont have any

i didnt know that operator also have weapon

[leaden obsidian]

You’re given the mote amp automatically which kinda sucks

[leaden obsidian]

That’s understandable, you’re not directly told the operator has a weapon

[frosty flint]

Make the 547

Love your life

[hybrid gorge]

what a lame game broo

how i can equip amp

[forest terrace]

hii

[leaden obsidian]

Go back to your orbiter(if you’re still in the mission)and go to the furthest back room of your orbiter. That’s your operators room

Back section in the middle will be the room

[hybrid gorge]

is this amp

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah

[zealous hedge]

Would a link overguard mod for pets be cool or pointless?

[leaden obsidian]

Isn’t that what pack leader is

[frosty flint]

Primed pack leader

[zealous hedge]

Not necessarily,that requires melee and has a overguard cap

Also I'm unsure if that can be used on robotics companions

[leaden obsidian]

Looks like it’s already equipped,go down to cetus and go to konzu(bounty person)and go directly behind him till you see a door. Go into operator and go through to chat to the person

[leaden obsidian]

Just says “companion” so I’d assume so

[hybrid gorge]

why go there

[zealous hedge]

I just checked it does

[leaden obsidian]

To get a better amp, idk if you have any sentient cores tho

[zealous hedge]

This would specifically be good for kullervo now that i think of it,nvm

[leaden obsidian]

Dante, styanax, rhino would all like a word

[zealous hedge]

I forgot they also use overguard,all very awesome frames

But dante kinda already shares his Overguard

[frosty flint]

Kullervo kind of buns imo

All he got is collective curse which is cool

[leaden obsidian]

It’s a new player so can’t recommend an amp like that yet

[frosty flint]

Okay well end goal is 547

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah, first gotta get them off the mote amp

[frosty flint]

177 for eidolons iirc

Could be wrong tho

[leaden obsidian]

It is 177

[lofty garden]

I like 2x7 for the punch-through

[hybrid gorge]

whats that

i am doing zero damage

to him

[civic cargo]

the basic Amp is crap-tier

so damage will be very low

[leaden obsidian]

Sentient cores? A resource to rank up the syndicate I was talkin about

[hybrid gorge]

idk tbh

[civic cargo]

talk to the vendor, see if you do

[hybrid gorge]

should i check my inventory

[leaden obsidian]

Either go chat up the vendor or check inventory

[zealous hedge]

He is literally the best melee weapons platform in the game

[civic cargo]

an easy way to make an amp for newbies, is made a 123 amp, since each part can be claimed from a rank up

getting fortuna parts will be a much larger grind

[zealous hedge]

Free red crits
The ability to spread damage across enemies
And a combo count generating storm

[leaden obsidian]

I was thinkin just 111, literally anything is better than mote

[elder lodge]

I have my clan run narmer bounties and profit taker, then we go for 147 though i hear it is bugged so the 547 was preferable?

Sirocco is good enough until you get the meta amps honestly

Mote is hot garbage

[tiny dragon]

You already need to beat Eidolons for R3

[tiny dragon]

Thats the best newby option at 38 sentient cores for the full think, rank up inclusive

[elder lodge]

Queue a night bounty get carried. Its pretty easy

[tiny dragon]

Dunno man, not everyone likes to skip the game

[civic cargo]

yeah but you can get carried for those fairly easily, even just getting terry done i was soloing with rhino when i first started out.

[elder lodge]

When is duviri unlocked now? Is ot super late?

[hybrid gorge]

are you talking about these

[tiny dragon]

Dunno man, Id just get the 38 cores yourself. Its what I did anyways. By that point you can already solo Teralysts

[elder lodge]

Its not skipping. Warframe was not meant to be played solo, thats like a streamer thing

[tiny dragon]

Thats an opinion and many people will tell you the opposite at solo/duo

Thats when you can play the game at your pace

Solo doesnt really increase difficulty for anything but leveling that much

[elder lodge]

Solo duo is an option. But the game is coop by design

[civic cargo]

i do solo trido runs sometimes, and get newbies joining who just apologise for being there 😄

[tiny dragon]

It is, but we're around 10 years past the point of when you needed to coordinate with your team and pick warframes and weapons accordingly

[elder lodge]

You dont need to coordinate, but unless you have the ability to do everything yourself, you are gunna rely on other players. Directing people to do everything themselves kills the community aspect of the game

[tiny dragon]

And playing coop is not getting carried, youre not cooperating on anything here if you cant even help

[hybrid gorge]

any one help broo T-T

[elder lodge]

Kindq l take but sure

[tiny dragon]

I highly disagree, I exclusively play solo/duo and have a lot of interaction with the community, be that here, trading or helping people ingame

[elder lodge]

No i figured you played that way

[tiny dragon]

Lead with the question, what do you need help with?

[tiny dragon]

An L take? What do you mean? Its just a different opinion than yours

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah

[hybrid gorge]

now what i need to do

[obsidian aspen]

Talk to Onkko, he sells Amp parts for Standing

[elder lodge]

You push players to be meta slaves and play solo while in coop. Its typical

[hybrid gorge]

so i just need to buy random parts

[tiny dragon]

You need 38 of them to get your first amp at the Quills in Cetus, if you pick an amp part at lvl up @hybrid gorge
Gotta talk to Onko, he's the representative of the Quills there

[obsidian aspen]

Different parts do different things, you get to pick and choose. That's how Modular items work

[tiny dragon]

You can only buy the 3 starter parts from him at Rank 1, buy those and assemble them. Its the last option when talking to him

[hybrid gorge]

i just need to kill that umber

[elder lodge]

If you play through your quests, youll get the sirocco amp from duviri for free. Its very decent

[tiny dragon]

I push them to be meta slaves? You probably dont know me but Im about as anti meta as you can find in here lmao.
I also make tons of guides for newbies with a big focus on exploring all the options of the game

[elder lodge]

Umbra can be killed with mote but it is kinda a pain

[hybrid gorge]

i have amp but its not doing any damage to that umbra

[leaden obsidian]

He can wait for now, getting a better amp is top priority

[obsidian aspen]

yeah cause Mote (the pre-built one Onkko gives you for free) sucks

[leaden obsidian]

From duviri? Thought it was new war

[hybrid gorge]

but how ? T-T

[tiny dragon]

This @hybrid gorge

[obsidian aspen]

Rank up with Onkko to make a better Amp

[leaden obsidian]

Farming sentient cores to rank up with the vendor

[elder lodge]

If duviri is behind sacrifice now thats kinda rough. Sirocco made that fight a free win

[obsidian aspen]

Duviri rn is behind the Uranus Junction

(which is still too early imo. but)

[hybrid gorge]

ok how to rank up

[tiny dragon]

You get the cores from Vomalysts at night on the plains, they mostly spawn at the water and near the edges of the map.
Kill them and then switch to operator to shoot the ghosts that appear

[elder lodge]

Sacrifice is like right there too no?

[obsidian aspen]

Give him Sentient Cores for Standing. Like just try out what all his dialogue options do and you'll see

[leaden obsidian]

New war drops it for the star chart

[frosty flint]

Volt

[obsidian aspen]

War Within is from Sedna Junction, and Sacrifice is 2 quests after that

[elder lodge]

I have to make #anothernewacc to do the new player experience again

[frosty flint]

Pure damage it would probably be mirage

[elder lodge]

Tbh since they moved everything idk what this means until i look at it

[zealous hedge]

Doesn't he only give attack speed?

[elder lodge]

Movement speed

[obsidian aspen]

Uranus -> Neptune -> Pluto -> Eris -> Sedna

[frosty flint]

Shock trooper and his 2, true influence

Put it with something like roar over his 4, and his shield also outclasses most frames already

[compact sable]

WA over 4

[frosty flint]

Again if we talk true damage, probably mirage zaw

[frosty flint]

Ye, his 4 isn't really needed especially if you're already doing an influence build with him

[hybrid gorge]

so far i understand nothing

[compact sable]

idt kullervo is buns but yeah he isn't as good as seem to think

he's very easy to play though

[elder lodge]

Warframe

[zealous hedge]

Can't you just mod for electric on your weapon?

[frosty flint]

Yeah, he's good but best melee platform is debatable. Especially when all he's really got going for him is his 3

[obsidian aspen]

Get Sentient Cores
Give to Onkko for Standing
Use Standing to buy Amp part blueprints
Craft parts
Assemble Amp at Onkko

[frosty flint]

Yeah you do that, shock trooper multiples this by many times, and his speed makes it even faster to proc, and then use 4 or something for even stronger dots

You're looking at elec dots that are like 4-5 million and you're proccing it almost every second

[hybrid gorge]

how to get Sentient parts

[compact sable]

he can also make stuff like hate incarnon work with influence

which is pretty funny

[leaden obsidian]

Go farm sentient cores from sentient enemies, when you have a good chunk go to onkko to rank up using those cores, buy part blueprints, farm resources, craft amp parts, go back to vendor to build it

[obsidian aspen]

read the cores' description

[leaden obsidian]

Sentient enemies, idk where the best place to farm them is tho

[hybrid gorge]

who is sentients ?

[obsidian aspen]

Sentients are a type of enemy, they're a major part of the main story

[leaden obsidian]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Sentient

[red path]

flying heads that spawn in plains at night

[hybrid gorge]

my head is exploding

[red path]

if you use ivara's prowl you can steal cores from them

then kill them and get one more core

[frosty flint]

@zealous hedge I think kullervo would be so much better individually if his 1 wasn't a subsume. It's the same with Grendel's nourish, if that wasn't a subsume, he would be much better individually

It would give them more usage by far

[compact sable]

his 2 being a subsume would be pretty interesting

[zealous hedge]

Makes sense

[obsidian aspen]

(one could also stretch this to a critique of the Subsume system as a whole but)

[compact sable]

poor rhino

[frosty flint]

It's just that their most unique ability (utility/buffing intensive) is their subsume

So people just subsume them and never bother getting another copy usually

[zealous hedge]

Rhino is carried by the fact that playing as him feels awesome

[frosty flint]

Yes

[compact sable]

yeah his 4 is funny to press but like aside from roar he is really super mid

[elder lodge]

Also thats hes the first farmable frame. Except maybe koumei now? And overguard

[compact sable]

koumei is earlier than rhino now yeah

[frosty flint]

All I said could honestly be contradictive since rhino is still used even though roar is his subsume ability. But it could also just be for the fact that he's so easy to get (and you get him really early)

And super old

[frosty flint]

Nah, rhinos kit is one of the more all around better ones

[compact sable]

mostly you can look at prime usage rates over base frame rates for how much people "want" to play as them rather than are just doing so by circumstance

[frosty flint]

Great utility in every ability, but definitely feature crept

[compact sable]

rhino's prime rate is fairly low

[elder lodge]

If you dont have a lot of mods (new players) rhino has always been the easiest frame to get and use

[compact sable]

and ofc one of my big hot warframe takes but rhino has the revenant problem

[elder lodge]

Koumei being the newish exception

[compact sable]

in that revenant makes every "tanky" frame pretty much obsolete

[verbal stag]

hmm

[elder lodge]

Right but people dont get rev till later

[frosty flint]

Low-key every invis frame makes everything obsolete, especially now since you can have crepuscular

[compact sable]

yeah and still revenant's playrate is so much higher

[elder lodge]

Because its easy

[compact sable]

like even counting the new players with rhino, roar subsumed rev players outnumber rhino players ezpz

[frosty flint]

I think Rev is the biggest issue with the whole player base in general though

[elder lodge]

I think thats fine kind of

[frosty flint]

Invulnerable Warframe
Easy to play
Easy to get
Players don't learn any other important mechanics for staying alive
Die on other frames
Go back to revenant

[compact sable]

💀

yeah

[frosty flint]

Think thats the general gameplay loop for a revenant player

[verbal stag]

checks out

[elder lodge]

Like DE is never going to get it so all frames have equal playrate. People are always going to play a meta slop because it works

[compact sable]

yeah but that's not an excuse to have wonky design

[frosty flint]

Ofc

[obsidian aspen]

it sucks too cause Revenant's other abilities are mostly really good and thematically he's awesome

his passive is wack tho can't lie

[frosty flint]

Seeing people run revenant, torid, laetum and magistar is like seeing an angel losing it's wings 💔

[compact sable]

rev is just imo not healthy for the game's design because it means DE basically can't have "hard" damage encounters

[frosty flint]

But it was the same thing for wukong for a LONG time

[compact sable]

onlyne concert was the pinnacle of this

DE put so much effort into that whole business with all the dodging hazards and then people just pick revenant so they don't have to deal with it at all

[elder lodge]

With DA changes there is also more than enough excuse to take a look at player choices. Id love for them to get rid of a lot of nonsense but then its like people are gunna cry and then move on to rhe next nonsense

[obsidian aspen]

I wonder if having Messmer Skin only block hits to your shield or your health would make it more balanced, and if so which

[frosty flint]

And we are seeing the same thing with Oberon now too, and nokko. They both have some sort of invulnerable passive/ability (nokko has 2) and I think it's just stupid to add that. You're trying to revolve your whole gameplay loop to New players, who probably won't even play for longer than a month, and it just shouldn't work like that

[tiny dragon]

Shield is 50% dmg reduction innate, health depends on armor

Its best if it doesnt become Warding Halo 2, because those mechanics suck

[compact sable]

I mean if it only blocks damage to your health... your health is what needs to go to 0 for you to die

[elder lodge]

If rev gets nerfed tho like how long until someone does some stupid thing with limbo

[tiny dragon]

He's already invulnerable p much

Always has been

[frosty flint]

If rev gets nerfed, then they'll just move to the next "op invuln frame"

[compact sable]

yeah but that's fine

[elder lodge]

Right

[obsidian aspen]

yeah the only reason I kinda considered having it for shields instead is to let his passive sorta act as a final block if it runs out

[compact sable]

rev is just too convenient and too easy to use in his current state

at least rhino or valkyr or whatever, you have to do something to maintain that invuln

[frosty flint]

I think revenant has a cool kit but using his 2 just makes it so boring for me

[elder lodge]

Ok but

[compact sable]

and its so strong that other frames that have huge power budgets in tankiness like inaros or trinity are just pretty much invisible in the game today

[elder lodge]

Before rev, can they rework banshee and the stealth frames/system

[compact sable]

wouldn't mind a stealth rework tbh

[elder lodge]

Sonar doesnt even work with accuity or weapon weakpoint uniques and thats like wild. Quake is just outdated entirely.

Power ballances important of course but if they fixed other things that have been neglected then reducing a powerhouse wouldnt be as bad

[compact sable]

I'm looking into my crystal ball and sonar is gonna be a generic damage vuln that makes enemies explode when killed

[elder lodge]

At least, community perception-wise, in my brain-world

makes enemies explode when killed

But quietly

Nah sonar just needs weekpoint buffs. Its still decent with str mods.

Quake is not. Silence is ok but stealth is abandoned content almost at conclave level

[tiny dragon]

Pretty much, yeah

It was dead the moment it got introduced

[compact sable]

sonar just doesn't really work in the game today imo

like pablo literally admitted when cyte came out, single target frames kinda aren't a thing anymore

[tiny dragon]

It does but you dont need it. Its also weird on some enemies like Murmur

[compact sable]

even at level cap enemies die so fast

[tiny dragon]

If it helped with smth like Hemocyte then it had an actual place

[elder lodge]

||Raids|| censored for de

[tiny dragon]

Or smth like hit that weakspot to reset damage attentuation

Lmao

Can you still use the Vay Hek Frequency Triangulator?

[elder lodge]

Nope

[tiny dragon]

I still have one and some Omega frequency thingies

Its listed for 2,5 - 6k plat

For some reason

[elder lodge]

Because people want a collection

[tiny dragon]

Makes sense, yeah

[elder lodge]

Yet
Arcane helm price dropped

[tiny dragon]

Yeee

[elder lodge]

In terms of ||raids|| tho, i think doing alliance/dojo based railjack missions with 4+4 face off style and then one boss fight

Would be really cool and not too buggy

[tiny dragon]

Yeah, I was thinking smth like an infested comet, where the away crew fights on ground with Necramechs and such and the Railjack crews support from above

Like a big golem type of enemy, similar to Jordas perhaps

[elder lodge]

The raids were really good content, but the downsidenis warframe is plagued by issues with matchmaking/mid hosts and people who never understood mods etc. So trying to herd 8 people for a mission that could take an hour over the 3 sections was never a good combination with the community we had at the time

[obsidian aspen]

J3 Golem proper comeback no way

[elder lodge]

I think with faceoff and the sortie/archon tiered mission style raids could be done very very well in the modern game

Have a bad host for tier 1? Reroll lobbies for tier 2

[tiny dragon]

Yeah true that

They might do it at some point again

[elder lodge]

Reb is scared of it

She was community manager during the backlash for it so like understandable but also it wasnt done poorly, the community just wasnt all ready for that. Itd be like dropping archons back in u15.

[tiny dragon]

Yeah

Not sure how it would go down now

[elder lodge]

Get speedrun in the first 5 minutes after the update

[tiny dragon]

Pretty much

[elder lodge]

People find a meta and post a youtube video on day 2 and de hotfixes rewards lmao

[pearl parcel]

Morning ant

[tiny dragon]

Morning sleepy man

[elder lodge]

Waaaahg

[silver flax]

so a green tide approaches?

[zealous hedge]

You know an ability is bad when there are multiple augments for it

[tiny dragon]

Lmao

[tiny dragon]

Is that Temporal Anchor?

[elder lodge]

You have conquered the horde. Good.

[zealous hedge]

Yes

[nocturne hull]

What augments exist for Temporal Anchor

[tiny dragon]

Let me tell you brother, I have played Protea nonstop for the last 200 h. Temporal Anchor is one of the best abilities in the game, easily. Its got a ton of mechanics on it

[elder lodge]

hysteria

[tiny dragon]

Temporal Erosion and Temporal Artillery. Armor strip and a coop gun that shoots for you and strips armor

You'd run both if you run Artillery

Anchor is so busted man

[zealous hedge]

I just subsume roar over my 4th to make my blaze artillery do big damage

[tiny dragon]

I dont even use weapons on lvl 300 SP, its just not needed

[zealous hedge]

It's not only cheaper but more effective

[tiny dragon]

Uhh

You can, yeah. Its less effective than using the 4 but it is effective

[rich otter]

anyone know how many rotations until the sicarus incarnon?

[winged nexus]

oh god, conservation sucks so much

even with ivara

[tiny dragon]

Use an archwing instead

[elder lodge]

^

[rich otter]

duviri rotation waiting is a pain

[winged nexus]

that not the problem

the problem is looking for thing that hangs from cave and hoping it is the right one and hope it does not bug out

[elder lodge]

Wdym

[tiny dragon]

Set your friendlies to highlight in green or another color

They are easily spotted by the green puddle below them

Its the Deimos things that come down when you step on the puddle

[winged nexus]

it more like I am looking for that green puddle and there is no spawn of iut

and only need ONE TAG

[tiny dragon]

Reset at the Necralisk, go into that cave and back out to check again

[winged nexus]

done that and no luck

[fast swift]

uh I just killed a kuva larvling, what do I do now?

[tiny dragon]

They often spawn at the entrance and inside the big cave on the right side of the map when looking down the stairs of the necralisk

[tiny dragon]

If you wanted that weapon he showed, complete the mission

[fast swift]

I completed the mission but I have no idea what weapon he showed

[winged nexus]

conservation has become the least fun activity

i never want to touch this again

[tiny dragon]

The spawned lich will have it in their hands and it will also list the gun

[winged nexus]

they ought make this shit easier or something

[fast swift]

lich?

[tiny dragon]

You just killed some poor dude

It was bait to use the Tenno power and kuva to absorb it and make that guy you mangled into a Lich

[winged nexus]

4 resets and no luck

[fast swift]

ah

[tiny dragon]

If it was you and not someone else executing the Larva dude then a lich has spawned for you.
If you didn't execute him and just let him die then the weapon you would have gotten from them got cycled out of the current kuva weapon rotation for you

[fast swift]

what I did was like just kill him and leave him on the ground

he was like lying on the ground and moving tho

[tiny dragon]

It is, look through the tranq rifle

[fast swift]

does that mean I softlocked myself out of kuva weapons ._.

[tiny dragon]

He dies after 30 seconds, which will cycle his kuva weapon to the bottom of the list basically

[fast swift]

ah

[winged nexus]

i have sometimes they just do not spawn or they spawn one that bugged as heck. the ceiling hanging bastards are stuck

[fast swift]

so, for next time I should look at what weapon he's using?

[tiny dragon]

No, there's plenty weapons, it just means you have to get every other kuva weapon until you can get this one

Yes, if you like it, execute him

If you dont like it, leave him until he dies and it will move to the bottom of the list

[tiny dragon]

They arent stuck, move below them and then away an they'll come down

[winged nexus]

god i am just farm plat and just buy the claw mods myself

[tiny dragon]

Or look up the wiki page

It isnt that hard really, its just that you dont understand the mechanics and get frustrated by it

[winged nexus]

there particular spot where the ceiling bug will always never come down and will get stuck there forever. Other locations seem fine but this really really annoys me

[tiny dragon]

It has always come down for me so far by moving below it

It can also come down when another animal moves onto the puddle, you can lure them there if you want

[winged nexus]

no that spot the terrian is block the bug from dropping as I could see it clip above when shot my sleep arrow

[tiny dragon]

Haven't yet used ivara for it, I always just use the tranq rifle

[bleak temple]

does galvanized savvy work multiplicative with shotgun elementalist

[leaden obsidian]

I do that daily, I just use the excuse “it attacked me first”

[vale falcon]

Elementalist is pretty much always multiplicative, it only affects damage over time effects from status
Galv savvy is usually additive to point blank and arcanes that just increase damage

[lyric drum]

What is the best enemie to test dps in simulacrum?

[vivid fractal]

Why in the world does the sibear cost 30k cryotic

[heavy drift]

Which frames are good at getting consistent red crits except harrow?

Because I like big numbers but harrow gets ruined when theres other people killing all the enemies too

[frosty flint]

Just play mirage if you like big numbers

[leaden obsidian]

Valkyr my beloved, also kullervo

Actually any frame with kullervos subsume

[lavish pebble]

One of those old grinds that it's too late for them to lower the cost of without it being a slap in the face to people that have already gotten it.

Same reason why the Hema research is still pain.

[crisp charm]

hello

[leaden obsidian]

Just increase the cryotic to 100k then

[lofty garden]

Stalker has given me three Hate BPs in a row…

[abstract marsh]

Sure