gameplay-discussion

[devout burrow]

I see a volt too

2nd row 2nd to the left

thats volts sentient skin

[daring halo]

Mhm

[summer temple]

Im blind

[daring halo]

YeA she was my first frame i ever got

[glad dove]

Thats majestic

[summer temple]

I kinda hate that skin ngl

[glad dove]

Ooooo

None of mine look that cool

[daring halo]

My rev fashion is my best

I hsve 35% gameplay on him

🥹

[glad dove]

Hehe

[coarse basin]

Raijin best volt skin

[glad dove]

I would like to think im good at colour matching, but I'm really not

[coarse basin]

But Amir is good too

[summer temple]

It's a bit much too tbh

I just rock base prime

I do own both the sentient and raijin skin

[floral shale]

hi

[glad dove]

👋

[summer temple]

Simple is sometimes more effective

[glad dove]

Oh that's also really nice

What colour pallettes y'all have?

[summer temple]

Like most of them

This was my raijin, but I kinda don't like it

[glad dove]

🥲

I only got the basics

The colours still work good together

[summer temple]

I spend a lot of plat on fashion lmao

[glad dove]

Might be a biiiiit much yea, but still noce

[summer temple]

Like several thousands at this point

[glad dove]

I broke.... And don know how to get plat... So i be basic

[glad dove]

Geeeeez

[summer temple]

I bought the 800p kuva lich bundle and like 5 deluxe skin bundles
That alone is over 2 grand

[tardy radish]

hi

[glad dove]

My word...

[daring halo]

Yea i did but then I got annoyed that I bought her harrier skin and couldn't make it look good so I shunned her

[glad dove]

I am jelly

[summer temple]

I hate that skin so much lmao

[coarse basin]

That helmet is great but it’s tennogen right?

[summer temple]

Correct

Worth every penny

[coarse basin]

It makes him look like a mech

Nice

What if you cut the arm parts and threw in Saturn six parts

[summer temple]

I need to get saturn six

[daring halo]

It look so bad idk what i was thinking 😭

[glad dove]

(Please ignore the Sayrn) These are the colours I have

[coarse basin]

Missed gamma in the nightwave

[summer temple]

Fell into a bucket of white paint huh

[glad dove]

Im trying to get her to look nice.... I need ablank slate

[coarse basin]

I want that Halloween lol

[glad dove]

yeaaa

[coarse basin]

Gotta wait till October ig

I’m still a little Tenno I don’t have many pallets or skins

[summer temple]

To be fair, all 3 of those are bangers
I'd recommend storm if you ever buy one

[glad dove]

I feel ya

[glad dove]

let me look

[ocean cloak]

Hello guys!

[glad dove]

das quite a nice variety

[coarse basin]

Someone was really awesome and gave me Raijin and it’s the only skin I have and it’s so awesome

Mine is white, dark grey, magenta, and purple

Wish I had a slightly darker purple tho, the pride thing is so vibrant

[open fulcrum]

What would be the best mission for 500 archwing gun kills?

[summer temple]

it's easily my most used one

[summer temple]

interception has the best drops, may as well

[fair flame]

Below baruuk above rev. Sorry it took so long to respond but a dead zone for phones

Clem

[glad dove]

oh my gosh I just looked at some of my old screenshots

wat

[true kayak]

What’s a good helmet to make a helmet with a visor?

[humble talon]

I remember when my operator was just that but full yellow instead

[glad dove]

hehehe

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-mighty-morphin-power-rangers-gif-18003522

[digital panther]

is there a chat to ask questions in without having to make a massive post

i was just wondering where to mine venerol

[dusk bloom]

Hi

[cobalt drum]

Simulor doing 14M dot from heat and electricity

[unkempt remnant]

Venerol is a resource that is obtainable by Mining the red mineral veins in Orb Vallis. Check the caves as well but be ware of the corpus ships and wheelies.

[scarlet steeple]

trade chat going crazy?

[daring halo]

Who's a frame that's very survivable other than rev

[little pulsar]

rhino ig

his overguard pretty goog

def not rev lvl but still :)

[unkempt remnant]

Dante with the overguard is another if you ask me.
Then there are combos like nova with Hyldrin's pilage which is a build for consistent overshields, but isn't as great as rev's invincibility

[little pulsar]

pillage strips armor and shield right?

[unkempt remnant]

I think so not 100% sure if it strips both

[gleaming palm]

I'll try to explain here once again

This is my proof that I am an Athrodai fanatic. Ever since it's release I've been it's fan. I've fought back against people who said Knell Prime is just the far better version of this gun.

[daring halo]

Are any subsumes fun?

Like I wanna make my rev more fun

I could put a mag pull on him for samthin

[gleaming palm]

The new mod

(Which incentives headshots and does 600% weak point damage) Abandons the flamethrower function that makes this gun fun. This gun used to be a cool new concept. Then became a Knell Furis hybrid. Now it is garbage compared to both.

@serene copper your the only DE member I see active in channel. I know we've never ever seen a weapon mod change but do you think there might be a chance this mod gets altered? The sad part is it's not even like. Bad fun. It's just bad.

[unkempt remnant]

I put Hyldrin's pillage over his 3rd ability (i think it's reave) to combine with the strip and do more dmg with dance macabre (4th Ability)

[gleaming palm]

TL:DR the Athrodai mod Abandons half of the weapon and leaves it as a strictly worse Knell Prime

[daring halo]

I like reave its good for movement

[daring halo]

I use roar for my dance dance build

Instead of 1

[unkempt remnant]

Fair point, not sure how you play or what you aim for so I give you ideas and tests I've run

[daring halo]

😛

[unkempt remnant]

Hope i gave you thoughts to play around and have fun with

[daring halo]

Bibba bobbba booobleeeee diiiiib!

[daring halo]

Thank you!

[unkempt remnant]

Don't mention it, have a good hunt Tenno

[daring halo]

OBBLE BOBBLE OOOOOOOOOOOGLEEEE

[coarse basin]

Inaros and harrow are right

Afaik, I don’t actually have either

[fathom cipher]

most frames have some way to keep themselves alive. frames like harrow have a lot of invuln time and an easy shield gate ability, yareli with her augment can pretty much get 4 seconds of invuln whenever she wants, and same goes with frost, rhino has his iron skin and insane dmg, wisp has an ability like rolling guard that gives her invuln but its on demand, zephyr has an ability that block all projectiles that come near her, volt has an augment that lets him pretty much be unkillable for like 13 seconds at a time if u mod him right, protea has an ability that gives her an amazing shield gate, and dagath has an augment that lets u be invuln for 30 seconds at a time basically

[tender perch]

Survivability comes in many forms, although some are definitely more accessible than others.

Invulnerability
Invisibility
Shield gating
Crowd control
Health tanking

All of these are aspects of survivability, ranging from most useful to least useful from top to bottom.

[fathom cipher]

health tanking so buns fr

[daring halo]

Which one of those is harrow?

[tender perch]

Shield gating and invulnerability. So he's actually pretty freaking hard to kill

[tender perch]

On my mama its so ass 🤨😭 🙏

[fathom cipher]

harrow has shield gating and invulnerability. hes really really strong

just gotta be a little conscious of ur shields thats abt it cuz harrow has infinite energy with his thurible ability. super duper comfy frame

im gonna go make a frost build

[tender perch]

I forgot to add overguard on my list

[daring halo]

Thats what I want, i hate it when Im stressing about dying, that's why I have 35% on rev, I just wanna listen to music and sit back yk?

[tender perch]

You should stay on rev then, you still kinda have to pay attention with Harrow

[fathom cipher]

yeah harrow has like 4 seconds of invuln when u cast his 4, and he also has his 1 which replenishes his shields and ties enemies down. its a little more action packed than rev tho. gotta be a little more conscious

[daring halo]

Is there anyone else like that

[fathom cipher]

maybe try zephyr if u wanna just place down tornados, sit in the sky flying, and repelling projectiles

[daring halo]

I already made a look for harrow

I csll it aura farmer

[fathom cipher]

rhino kinda. his iron skin gives overguard and he gets i frames from casting it. u do have to recast it more than mesmer skin tho

[fathom cipher]

my harrow looks cooler fr 😈

[daring halo]

Nuh uh nuh uh!

Look at my revenant 😈😈

[fathom cipher]

red and black is soooo overdone

[daring halo]

@fathom cipher

[fathom cipher]

im in a mission rn ill show when im out

[tender perch]

Red and black. Yawn.

[daring halo]

💔

😔🥲

[tender perch]

If I had a dollar for every red and black scheme a WF player used...

[fair flame]

Basic 2/10

[daring halo]

🫠😐😞🫤

[fathom cipher]

red and black over used fr fr

[fair flame]

If I was to describe this like borderlands gun tiers. This would be White.

[tender perch]

Damn

[fathom cipher]

gotta get a nice captura first for my harrow to aura farm even more

my rev is here tho

[tender perch]

Blegh
Get that frame off my screen

So tired of seeing him

[topaz meadow]

why does everyone use mephisto for him?

[fair flame]

Green loot Rarity

[topaz meadow]

every single time i see a revenant, it's always mephisto one way or another

[fathom cipher]

i dont use rev anymore lol

[daring halo]

L

[fathom cipher]

i didnt bother revising his fashion

[tender perch]

Real drip

[daring halo]

I dont 😃

[topaz meadow]

that's a rare

[fair flame]

There's a whole lot going no but nothing even stands out. Green Rarity

[tender perch]

I was gonna say that

[daring halo]

Look at this amazing standing out

[tender perch]

Like its so overwhelming with stuff happening but I cant see anything

[topaz meadow]

but you also do use it

[fair flame]

Green. At least it's one solid color a bold choice

[daring halo]

Yes i do

Well that's a helmet

[tender perch]

I really am a "less is more" kinda guy

[topaz meadow]

it's still mephisto

[daring halo]

Show me your best

[fair flame]

Exactly you don't have to have every single slot filled to make a fire looking frame that would has to be purple Rarity

[daring halo]

Frame fasion

[daring halo]

See i dont like that one

[tender perch]

Yeah, having super over-the-top stuff with everyone flashing you in the face is not my style.

[topaz meadow]

i just do factions for mine

[tender perch]

That looks really good

Very linear. You know what youre going for, not all over the place

[fair flame]

Mmmmm I still need the all the tennogen sjins

[fathom cipher]

harrow

[topaz meadow]

the mirage kuvael skin works well with the kuva guardian weapon set

[tender perch]

REALLY GOOD

[fathom cipher]

i need chirpyy's all pink rhino back

[fair flame]

Purple

[daring halo]

Whats the order

[fathom cipher]

i think its white, green, purple

[topaz meadow]

i really like the Kuvael Jester skin for Mirage a lot

[coarse basin]

ooo

[topaz meadow]

usually rarities are
white, green, blue, purple, yellow/red

[fathom cipher]

i love my mirage. super minimal ngl

looks amazing when itss darker cuz u can see all her oranges

[daring halo]

@topaz meadow this is my volt (it has the vengeful charge ephemera but you cant see)

[topaz meadow]

i don't have a fashion for my Volt yet since i want him to be the sentient faction look

(i don't have the deluxe skin currently)

[fathom cipher]

i cant lie i just took the colors from my xaku and put it on my volt lol

[daring halo]

Whats my rating

The back

[daring halo]

I like this

I prefer more going on rather than less

[topaz meadow]

tbh i'd put it as green

[daring halo]

:(

[tender perch]

Minimalist Mirage

[fair flame]

games of the series always use the following color scheme (from lowest to highest rarity): white; green; blue; purple; orange.

[tender perch]

@fathom cipher Curious on your thoughts specifically

[fathom cipher]

im colorblind so im a lil bit of the wrong person to ask, but i find that the actual colors and that lining dont really look nice together

[tender perch]

Nvm I'll just kill you now

[topaz meadow]

i don't like the pink tbh

sticks out too much from the other colors

[daring halo]

White lad

[summer temple]

that's cute
my minimal mirage is just "default, but with nicer colors" lmao

[fair flame]

She looks like she's trying to seduce men to kill them in bed just to torment then at there most blissful

[topaz meadow]

i will say, respect with using the Ki'Teer Ephemera on her

[topaz meadow]

so she looks like a succubus clown?

[fair flame]

Basically

[tender perch]

It fits her specifically

[topaz meadow]

ik, it's why i use it on my kuvael mirage

[tender perch]

Ok so more subtle pink is what I'm hearing. Noted.

[summer temple]

this is what I use tho, usually

[topaz meadow]

either that, or darken the grey to be leaning more towards the black

[fair flame]

To be fair her lore makes her a crazy to anyone who wants to sleep with her is basically not going to see the day again

[topaz meadow]

don'tsayitdon'tthinkit
don'tsayitdon'tthinkit
don'tsayitdon'tthinkit

[summer temple]

would

[fair flame]

I don't want a frame who's is so mentally screwed up that it was maniacal laugh so much that it completely changed what she was being forced to transform in to as a frame

As she was being transformed

[fathom cipher]

i just need more mirage stuff. im just a mirage player 😩

[summer temple]

I prefer saryn, but I have tried out mirage recently

she's cool too, just not AS fun as saryn IMO

[celest yew]

i love mirage

[fathom cipher]

mirage is my main

dont use guns with mirage fr

[topaz meadow]

i don't believe you

[daring halo]

Is cyte 09s subsumed just invis you can shoot through

[topaz meadow]

it's invisibility that can last longer if you get weakpoint kills

[daring halo]

If it is then I can use any frame i want and I can be survivable because I'm always invis!!

Omg!

[topaz meadow]

basically yeah, if you use a weapon that's super powerful with headshot/weakpoint hits

[daring halo]

Knell?

[topaz meadow]

yeah, more specifically Prime

[daring halo]

Yeah I have it build prime

[topaz meadow]

then yeah, you're golden

[daring halo]

Who's build around headsets?

[topaz meadow]

Harrow is

[daring halo]

Oh? How so

[topaz meadow]

Condemn locks enemies in place and makes their heads be exposed at all times while they're in chains

and his 4 boosts final crit chance by 50% at max buildup base, with it being 4x more effective on headshots, alongside Thurible allowing energy returns from killing that's also 4x more effective on headshots

[daring halo]

Sorry if i keep asking about survivability 😅 but

[topaz meadow]

Evade synergizes with that

[daring halo]

So i can sit back and hit headshots?

[topaz meadow]

though you won't have as much effectiveness with his 4's crit chance boost, it's still able to boost it at a baseline

[topaz meadow]

yes

[summer temple]

oh EWWW the statue shows coda pimple

[topaz meadow]

the pimple that never grows

(even though it's supposed to)

[summer temple]

it's not on my frame, just on the statue

[topaz meadow]

might've been from someone else

[fair flame]

It grows with the defection progress

The closer to 100% the more it grows

[topaz meadow]

it's supposed to grow every mission end until you kill it

[fathom cipher]

u can do that or use the scourge/scourge prime to make enemies get headshot attractor bubbles

and just spray towards them

[topaz meadow]

also this doesn't happen at all for me

i've gotten 95% and that thing was still as tiny as the helminth cyst

[fair flame]

It does for me

[daring halo]

Do any primaries specialise with heads? Also does harrow buff the knell

[topaz meadow]

he makes it have 2 rounds instead of 1

and a primary won't be necessary if you're using Knell

[fair flame]

There as at least 22 primarys that do

[topaz meadow]

since it's got infinite ammo as long as you hit headshots

[shadow storm]

I regret vanquishing my first coda ever 😦

look at those resistances and Immunities

[daring halo]

The best?

[fair flame]

Thank goodness I'm out of Ohio now

[slender sparrow]

Primaries that "specialise with heads" are usually called sniper rifles.

[daring halo]

Please just name one

[topaz meadow]

Vulkar

specifically Wraith

it has the new loka augment that does a unique multiplicative damage boost by just aiming

[fair flame]

and this one

[topaz meadow]

nah

[summer temple]

perigale

[slender sparrow]

In early game, Vectis is goated.
Clears star chart with ease.
And you can even put mods on later!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786650716436430939/1358209692723318904/Thermal_Fratcures_Sniping.mp4

[lilac smelt]

GOD I HATE temporal archimedea

ppl let 2 hellscrubbers spawn and they were a vampiric eximus

we just lost cuz we were damaging a sponge

[lofty garden]

2hrs to umbra forma bp!

[summer temple]

people care about umbra forma?

[vagrant mirage]

yeah it's nice with certain builds

[elfin gulch]

Anyone think a vergil type wf would be cool

[blazing matrix]

Apparently I need to send a message here to get rid of that onboarding

[ornate grail]

hi

[regal tusk]

Oh yeah, atlas prime, the character who controls shadow claws prime

[misty cosmos]

Just spawned a kuva lich with a kuva Hek

And the valence is 40% IMPACT 😭

[potent summit]

Awesome

[misty cosmos]

At least it’s 40%

So if I get an elemental vice, I can change it to heat or something

[coarse basin]

mine was 49% electricity, im pretty happy

also isnt that determined by ur frame

[tender dome]

so to farm spectral serration, best option is a scaldra survival mission in sp?

[open fulcrum]

Okay, so I have 3 rivens that I want to keep (Angstrum, Stug, Zarr) does anyone want the others? What I came to ask though is, should I be Transmuting them? Or just dissolve them.

[fathom cipher]

angstrum keep

i think someone might eant the tenet envoy one

[misty cosmos]

I actually don’t know. .

I used Gauss to get my Ogris too and that was impact as well

[strong field]

Stug riv goes hard

[misty cosmos]

Have we ever gotten a Non-Tenno prime weapon?

Out of curiosity

[open fulcrum]

Okay. I’ll dust the others 💥

[fathom cipher]

keep sobek too

[tender perch]

Wassup chat

[fathom cipher]

wassup

[topaz meadow]

it is

[tender perch]

Crispy, my man 🤝

[fathom cipher]

im building frost rn and im gonna go figure him out later once hes done

anyways im at the gym rn lol

[tender perch]

He's easy af to build

[misty cosmos]

Interesting

[topaz meadow]

here is a prog list

[tender perch]

Icy Avalanche and Biting Frost is like half the build, I swear to god

[topaz meadow]

well yeah

[fathom cipher]

yeah i know that part lol

[topaz meadow]

icy avalanche not only strips armor and fully freezes enemies, it also gives overguard which is immunity to statuses and an extra gate before death

and biting frost is self explanatory lol

[tender perch]

Why you explaining it to us like some in-game tips list 😭

We know

[topaz meadow]

because i am the in-game tips list

[fathom cipher]

yeah imma see if i like him enough to set up a level cap build with frost. im excited about makin more fashion for him tho

[tender perch]

I apologize

[topaz meadow]

do it anyway, he's pretty damn good to use in circuit when you roll him

[misty cosmos]

I’ve been using Gauss and Grendel, no wonder I only get impact

[fathom cipher]

i do need a defense frame tbf

[topaz meadow]

the globe has a 4 second full damage immunity

[tender perch]

Mine has level cap potential. But tbh i cant play frost without Nourish, his energy economy makes me cry

[open fulcrum]

Okee dokee

[fathom cipher]

dw im too lazy and have had a 26% impact nukor sotting around for awhile

[topaz meadow]

so you basically get 4 seconds of defense before it's shot down, and even then it provides some CC

[tender perch]

You poor soul

[fathom cipher]

ill figure it out

[topaz meadow]

i use 2 yellow shards and run Roar

[fathom cipher]

i was gonna test xatas ngl

[tender perch]

Yeah, Nourish or Roar

[topaz meadow]

there isn't much to work with when it comes to shard for him, so i might as well do full on support with the shards

probably some blue for armor to boost icy avalanche's overguard efficiency

[fathom cipher]

i would want 500 energy maybe if i wanted to go and do some melee stuff with him

[tender perch]

Amber casting speed is a must for me with Frost tbh

[fathom cipher]

so one tau blue shard

[fathom cipher]

for me tau cast is a need on everyone

[topaz meadow]

starting energy, energy orb efficiency, and casting speed are very good options

yellow is basically a go-to for him for at least 1 to 2 slots

[tender perch]

Yeah, single Tau. I dont use two regulars. A waste

[fathom cipher]

how about 2 tau cast 😎

[misty cosmos]

The only other frames I have are Nekros and Atlas

[topaz meadow]

bit excessive

[misty cosmos]

Wait nevermind, I have Lavos too

[tender perch]

I hope you have an accident in that gym

[fathom cipher]

i need it on some frames fr

[topaz meadow]

toxin is a pretty good prog bonus

[fathom cipher]

nah nah u need it on some frames tho

[topaz meadow]

Garuda with her 4 augment does need casting speed

[tender perch]

Just check for any frames you have that give toxin. It'll be the best choice for the weapon 90% of the time

[topaz meadow]

Nekros is toxin

[fathom cipher]

like i always keep 2 tau cast on my mirage so i can use prism guard build if i want. otherwise i zaw. garuda wants cast uhhhh frames that dont have an instant cast gate need em fr

[misty cosmos]

Atlas is toxin

[tender perch]

Name me a frame that requires 2 whole tau casting speed shards

[misty cosmos]

Goood to know

[fathom cipher]

garuda

[tender perch]

That makes zero sense but we ball

[topaz meadow]

Dagath

[fathom cipher]

and prism guard mirage

[coarse basin]

that would explain it

[tender perch]

Cap. I get by with one

[misty cosmos]

Right? 😭 he should be impact

[topaz meadow]

Grendel should be toxin but he's impact

[fathom cipher]

well the point of cast speed shards is more comfort so technically it isnt ever needed needed but like its a huge qol

[tender perch]

So DE is just trolling basically

[coarse basin]

guys my new lich is only 27%

[topaz meadow]

yeah

[coarse basin]

titania is cold btw

[tender perch]

Nah you're wrong, im right

[topaz meadow]

my kuva twin stubbas was a 56% prog bonus

[tender perch]

Take it off

[fathom cipher]

im gonna enjoy my comfiness thanks

[misty cosmos]

Well, thanks for this info, I will use it on my next lich

[topaz meadow]

keep the weapon though

[coarse basin]

why tf

[topaz meadow]

if you roll another lich of the same weapon with toxin and then kill them, you can use the valence fusion and convert your impact one to a toxin one

[misty cosmos]

Oh yeah totally, I’m not letting 40% go to waste

[topaz meadow]

i've got the impact ephemera on my current lich, so future liches will be electric, toxic, or cold (probably in that order)

[tender perch]

I love the Laetum

[topaz meadow]

yeah my yellow shards on Frost are a starting energy one, and 2 energy efficiency ones

[fathom cipher]

i gotta finish the laetum upgrades lmao

[topaz meadow]

and i still have 2 open slots

[tender perch]

Yeah they are kinda annoying to complete

But man, I did it the minute I got it. I was REALLY excited to use it when it dropped.

[topaz meadow]

well mine is because i save the shards to convert into a tauforged, and i've been using them a lot on some of my frames

the next 2 yellows are going on my Khora so i can run the same idea i have on Frost onto her

[tender perch]

Turns out its a level cap destroyer

Happy investment

[fathom cipher]

laetum is awesome yeah lol

[tender perch]

It doesnt do the best with hoards tho, unless you have firestorm

[fathom cipher]

thats why u gotta have a trash clearer

[tender perch]

I know

I run Tenet Plasmor in primary

[topaz meadow]

Tenet Arca Plasmor my beloved

[tender perch]

I use Laetum for high priority targets only

[fathom cipher]

i might try zaw frost maybe lol

[topaz meadow]

really wish they would make the attachment system have separate sections for coloring

[fathom cipher]

fr

[topaz meadow]

i'd love to mix up the grineer armor sets that i currently have, but since they don't match their color zones with each other, it tends to look off when doing so

[tender perch]

I hope to god DE kept the part of Caliban's augment where the sentients proc electric

[topaz meadow]

i hope to god they kept the part of his augment that lets you group them together

that'd be wonderful for melee running with him

[mild dome]

Faceoff keeps hitting new peaks of gameplay.
Stuck in a lobby for 8 minutes so far, due to one guy on enemy team having the worst connection in history

Question is, how long should I wait, as the risk of having to play 2 ai games would easily be 25min more or so

I already got one leave since I had a random host just disconnect earlier, bringing me with him, and afaik, that means I get a mark as well (Appreciate it! )

[maiden granite]

Dude get on it

[tender perch]

Thats the entire augment wym

[mild dome]

Fine, 13 minutes, can't take it anymore, hit me with the faceoff suspend DE.....................

[topaz meadow]

they may have done an entire rework since that devstream though

[tender perch]

Prolly

[fathom cipher]

i will. im just too lazy (per usual)

[maiden granite]

I think i need the citrine skin when it comes out

[fathom cipher]

i need to finish up my amp rn but im too lazy to mine for the resources 😭

[tender perch]

I just want those electric procs, I hope to god they keep that part. Archon Stretch would be INSANE

[fathom cipher]

ill build frost tho

[tender perch]

Never have to worry about energy

[mild dome]

Farm something else more fun, sell that to finance gems, ???, profit

[fathom cipher]

too lazy to do that too 😎

[maiden granite]

Wait wait wait, you dont have frost prime?

[fathom cipher]

nope not yet at least. hes in my fiundry rn

[maiden granite]

Ohhhh

Thanks for reminding me i have octavia prime cooking

Got her from all random fissure shares 😅

[tender perch]

Whats a good subsume for Hydroid? I got him recently

[maiden granite]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

I dont know that people really subsume on him

[tender perch]

I really only see Nourish but I'm really trying to avoid using it

[fathom cipher]

maybe roar? or xatas? idk. ive never played hydroid 😭

[maiden granite]

I was gonna say roar

I feel like something like pillage would be useless

[tender perch]

You really are just the CEO of Xatas

[fathom cipher]

yeah hydroid had that weird cleanse thing right

[tender perch]

I was actually just about to say Xatas so I guess I'll use it

[fathom cipher]

nuh uh i just happen to use the same 8 subsumes

[tender perch]

🥀🥀🥀

[topaz meadow]

could run Gloom for CC

[tender perch]

Prolly

[topaz meadow]

helps reduce enemy DPS, too

[tender perch]

But I never use Xatas so I'll test the waters

[maiden granite]

I mean he is gloomy with the acid rain situation and then kraken

[fathom cipher]

it seems i really like weapons platforms now that im looking at my frames

[tender perch]

Thats usually what I build my frames around unless they have an obvious ability synergy

[maiden granite]

Makes sense

[tender perch]

My Sevagoth is built for Reap nuking tho

[fathom cipher]

i should get hydroid

[maiden granite]

I want to build gyre to nule

Nuke

[tender perch]

I got him recently, he looked solid so I say why not

[fathom cipher]

i have my protea built for heat inherit nuking

[maiden granite]

I have her, but im not sure how to mod her. Someone i played with in randos was wiping out lvl 200+ by just breathing on them with her 4

[tender perch]

I think she's kinda relegated to weapons platform cause her abilities cant dps by themselves. Maybe with a subsume?

[fathom cipher]

her nuke is pretty fun

[tender perch]

Tau shards and augment

[maiden granite]

Probs

[fathom cipher]

its augments i think yeah

[tender perch]

Her kit kinda just allows nuking naturally, but purple tau shards is what pushes her over the edge

[fathom cipher]

was it the cathode one? idk i dont actually play gyre

[maiden granite]

She’s so fun, i just wanna nuke everything with her

[tender perch]

No the augment is just qol her kit with shards nukes naturally

[maiden granite]

Yes! Cathode current

Is what they were using

[tender perch]

Yeah its a bandaid mod

[maiden granite]

The skin applies so cool to her abilities

[fathom cipher]

i should get hydroid as well. is his survivability just his wave and crowd control?

[maiden granite]

Now i gotta check if i have hydroid because i forgot about him

[mild dome]

https://tenor.com/view/delicious-tasty-gif-22731288
Ah, what a juicy faceoff day indeed. Had a nice variation of afk farmers, ps5 hosts with prisma angstrum clients, infinite loading lobbies, leaving hosts, mhm,

[tender perch]

Yes. But the wave is just absolutely busted. So shield regen mods work best for shield gate setup

The wave is just Rolling Guard without cooldown so shield gating with shield regen is what keeps him alive.

[maiden granite]

Welp, i dont have any hydroid parts

Darn it

[fathom cipher]

sounds like yareli and wisp. i shall be getting hydroid then because i am in need of more cool fashion

[strong field]

Finally changed my diriga skin into ordis

[tender perch]

I really just wish Plunder was better, though

[strong field]

plunder is just free armor and corrosive dmg right

[maiden granite]

Da bestest

[tender perch]

Yeah, the damage is nice but armor is meh. Wish it was DR at least, or something more useful

[strong field]

Diriga looks so ugly but costed 100p so I've been contemplating it for ages 😭

[strong field]

Armor IS DR

But yeah who really cares about armor now

[tender perch]

Yeah, except...not good DR.

[maiden granite]

Ordis the bestest cephalon

[tender perch]

Because it only works on hp

[maiden granite]

So is the one on railjack. His sense of humor is hilarious

[strong field]

Unc cephalon

[tender perch]

DR > Armor
Cause regular % DR effects shields. And even that is kinda just okay at best.

[strong field]

I'll be honest I use DR just to tank combat discipline

[topaz meadow]

gonna have to disagree with you on that one chief

looks amazing with my Valkyr

[strong field]

It aint life if no one disagrees, so

[tender perch]

Wrong, my way is objectively right and if you disagree then you don't exist.

I am the law.

[maiden granite]

Lol

[strong field]

There are no laws against warframes batman

[tender perch]

Damn right, which is why I have Nova sitting on my face.

[strong field]

[topaz meadow]

no, i am the law

[fathom cipher]

all my sentis be running the dragon skin 😭

[maiden granite]

Oooo the dragon one is good too, but i dont run sentinels enough

[fathom cipher]

NOVA not KAYA 😎

[tender perch]

Definitely not Kaya

[strong field]

The dragon one belongs to my wyrm p

[tender perch]

NOVA

[fathom cipher]

yk what bro. i forgot to get negate 😭 ive had wyrm p for a while but i dont even have negate on it. im missing the whole point of even having wyrm p

[strong field]

Brah

I mean that's one of the reasons why you wanna own one

[tender perch]

Screw Negate, I have built-in Adaptation into my main 😎

[strong field]

The other is you can have a lot of bond mods in it

[strong field]

Negate is for stopping knockbacks and other status effects not to tank

It's for people that want to cope not using psf or frames built with psf

[tender perch]

I was just about to say just use psf

[fathom cipher]

why is it a vid and not the gif 😭

[strong field]

Let me time travel 30 days from now first

[tender perch]

Idk please help me

[topaz meadow]

bro idk why you'd use PSF when like the vast majority of frames now have some means of countering knockback

[tender perch]

Fixed it

[fathom cipher]

ill let u guys know if i recieve a 400% dps increase when i get psf

[tender perch]

Good job, Crispy

[strong field]

Im very tempted to ragebait picking vigor, record it, and send it in general

[topaz meadow]

seriously though, how did this guy get addicted to such a stupid mod?

[strong field]

Just give me 11 more days

[fathom cipher]

give me like 20 days for mine

[tender perch]

Nah psf is actually kinda dope

[topaz meadow]

but of all things

why PSF?

[tender perch]

Mainly for not staggering yourself from AOE weapons

[fathom cipher]

psf on atlas is so good guys

[tender perch]

He probably just went with the memes

[topaz meadow]

archgun deployer

that's what i use

[tender perch]

Say that to me again and I'll rip your Helminth out of its wall

[topaz meadow]

archgun deployer

[tender perch]

Thats it

[fathom cipher]

what did henry ever do to u 🙏

[topaz meadow]

mine is named Lenthis

[strong field]

Henry is a nice boi

[tender perch]

I named my Very Good Boy

[cloud sphinx]

Finally figured out why my scourge primer build was so buttcheeks

[strong field]

The better question would be why did he put it on atlas

[cloud sphinx]

I forgot fire rate affects how long it takes for you to throw it

[topaz meadow]

so true

[fathom cipher]

also chirpy uhhhh apparently im actually 44 days out from psf

[topaz meadow]

literally atlas is just cast and you're on the ground again, resulting in full immunity to knockdown

and since landslide got a massive buff because of techrot encore, you're gonna cast more often

[strong field]

Damn

That's just tough

Play nezha or yareli or smth

[topaz meadow]

Frost

[strong field]

This is the answer to my own question btw

[fathom cipher]

ill just play mirage and get mad when my zaw self knockbacks me

[topaz meadow]

he's got knockback immunity thanks to icy avalanche

and he strips armor in the process

[topaz meadow]

what the hell even caused that?

[strong field]

Not really a huge fan of him tbf

I don't even know lol it's a clip from a friend

[topaz meadow]

also your mistake was not casting landslide

everyone knows that atlas mains do nothing but cast landslide

[strong field]

This was why I quit glaives btw

It's a minor inconvenience but it has happened way too many times

[fathom cipher]

glaives are fine im just stupid sometimes iwht zaws

[strong field]

Im sure we all go stupid with explosives

[fathom cipher]

ok i go build hydroid now hopefully

wow thats funny i dont have enough nano spores

or argon

[strong field]

How 😭

[fathom cipher]

i think henry ate it

[strong field]

Im at around 3 mill on those thangs

[topaz meadow]

i'm gonna run Ripkas instead of Hysteria after Isleweaver drops

[strong field]

This has to be tennogen right

[topaz meadow]

graxx skin, yeah

[maiden granite]

Wait why did he fall on his face like that

[coarse basin]

it wat

[strong field]

Top 10 mysteries of all time

[strong field]

wat

[coarse basin]

100p?

[jolly hazel]

is there a way to activate molt vigor while using the madurai operator class ?

[devout burrow]

contamination wave

[jolly hazel]

ty

[fathom cipher]

ok hyrdoid building

ill do my weekly stuff later ngl

[open fulcrum]

Do you need the correct Antivirus to beat your Coda? I don’t have whatever it is

[crisp coral]

banana frame

[coarse basin]

I mean, how else would you do it

[devout burrow]

no, but it makes it more efficient

[coarse basin]

wait what

how else do you kill a coda?

[devout burrow]

dont you get 5% disinfect after a stab no matter what

[open fulcrum]

This is what I was wondering lol.

[strong field]

That's the ordis skin price yes

[coarse basin]

oh

thats what you meant

thought you meant diriga costed 100 plat

[coarse basin]

are you thinking of antivirus or potency

I thought potency increased the disinfect of a proper antivirus stab

[devout burrow]

idk, cant back up any of my claim cause wiki is so general with the information given on it

[tender perch]

No God Above Knowledge is so good. Underrated Warframe song.

[willow bluff]

5% from correct antivirus mod
Max u can get is 35% by 2 15% potency mods and the correct antivirus mod

[true kayak]

Thoughts? I’m pretty sure right is better

[strong field]

Yeah it's better but could still get better

[cobalt drum]

Much better could use a neg

[tight plaza]

Finally

dance~1

[vapid trellis]

what is "base mod capacity" ?

[pseudo forge]

the base capacity you have for modding equipment

[tight plaza]

Yeah, it caps on mr30

Slap reactor/catalyst and u will have 60 mod capacity

[pseudo forge]

adds 1 every two ranks, whether equipment or overall mastery, above 14/15 i think

[scarlet halo]

Niiiice!

[tight plaza]

That one such a pain in the butt to farm

[scarlet halo]

It looks like it is too, hahah! 😅

[delicate nexus]

Which one is better? I am not sure

[tight plaza]

Second one

[tender perch]

Phage isn't a crit weapon, I'd say the left one.

[daring parrot]

it isnt?

[tight plaza]

It is

It has 19% cc and 2x cd base

Which is pretty good for hybrid build

And considering it is a beam weapon u will crit a lot

[tender perch]

Actually normally I wouldn't agree, but i forgot about the disposition, and the riven is boosting crit to 100% so yeah, actually

[tight plaza]

Even without riven, Critical Deceleration will add u 200% critical chance which puts u at 57% critical chance

And it is beam weapon

So yes, it is a crit weapon

[tender perch]

Yeah, but using two mod slots to fit on crit that could otherwise be going to status damage just seems like a waste in the long run imo.

I wouldn't count that as a crit weapon

[tight plaza]

If base build without riven uses crit mods

It is a crit weapon

You have 1 free slot on Phage anyways

[tender perch]

That's the thing, I dont think I've ever seen anyone mod for crit with the phage

I mean it's a rare gun to see, maybe that's the actual sauce

[tight plaza]

Primed charged shell, Galvanized Hell, Toxic Barrage, Shotgun barrage, Critical deceleration, primed ravage, scattering inferno and FREE slot

[tender perch]

Yeah no. Never seen anything like that

[tight plaza]

That is base build with Merciless

[tender perch]

I mean I got the gun, I'll try that out. I'm prolly hella outdated

[tender perch]

Why merciless?

[tight plaza]

Base damage

[tender perch]

Yeah but why not deadhead?

[tight plaza]

Cuz deadhead is meh on beam weapons and harder to maintain lol

Also reload speed

[tender perch]

On the Phage, no

Most of your kills is definitely coming from headshots

If not, then maybe the tics off status

[tight plaza]

Forgot the reason why

But merciless is better on status weapons

Expecially multihit and beams

[wet hatch]

So were slam builds nerfed into the floor yet? Or Melee Influence?

[tight plaza]

Melee infuence no

[wet hatch]

if slam builds were nerfed Sampotes is gonna be sadness

[tight plaza]

It functions as intended

[wet hatch]

wdym

[tight plaza]

They will be

[wet hatch]

I heard about that but it hasn't happened yet.

[tight plaza]

In 2 days

Update is on 25th

[wet hatch]

Ngl I HOPE slam builds at least stay viable. They're definitely overpowered but like, Sampotes' whole thing is slamming.

it gets the shockwaves off it

[tight plaza]

Playing slam build is lame

So I don't mind them nerfing it to the ground

[wet hatch]

I personally love it. Watching everything die around me as Rhino with a combination of stomping and slamming?

super fun

it just feels so RIGHT.

Idk what I'mma run on my stomp spam rhino if sampotes becomes irrelevant

[tight plaza]

Too strong, it will deff be nerfed

[wet hatch]

cause combining both felt SO GOOD

[tight plaza]

Still good, but nowhere near great

[wet hatch]

I can deal with that. If it's still a viable strategy, that's fine

[tight plaza]

It always was

[wet hatch]

if it becomes absolutely hot garbage unusable that's gonna SUCK

cause I love Sampotes slam spam after a stomp with rhino

it's so fun.

[tight plaza]

Never was into hammers

Too slow

[wet hatch]

I like power weapons.

If I can do insane damage over a massive area, however slow, I'm happy.

excluding warframes cause nuke frames feel less engaging

[tight plaza]

And you can do that with any weapon with influence

[wet hatch]

with slam builds you at least have to be in vicinity of an enemy.

or, multiple enemies

[tight plaza]

Not a single hammer

dogkek

[wet hatch]

no you can't? Like, you can clear groups but slam builds can wipe HORDES.

Unless you're talking about exalted blade in which case yeah

it can do that.

[tight plaza]

Quassus Prime want to introduce itself

[wet hatch]

what is it

[tight plaza]

Or that Duviri Nikana

With ranged attack

[wet hatch]

Syam? I have that but I don't know about it clearing hordes.

at least on the scale of slam builds

[tight plaza]

Both Quassus Prime heavy and Syam heavy are better then Slam builds

For hords lol

[wet hatch]

Okay for real what the hell is quassus prime

I've never heard of that one lol.

[tight plaza]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Quassus_Prime

[wet hatch]

also how is Syam better? the slash is so tiny?

[tight plaza]

The first heavy attack throws 18 daggers, each with a 2.5x damage multiplier; the second heavy attack in sequence throws 9 daggers, each with a 5x damage multiplier,

[wet hatch]

or, visually tiny. Exalted Blade has bigger slashes

[wet hatch]

That's... actually kinda sick. So it's throwing knives basically.

[tight plaza]

Yeah with guaranteed slash

[wet hatch]

... Man, now I wanna get Atlas, color it like The World and use that.

Lol.

[tight plaza]

Daggers are considered a heavy attack. Their damage will scale from the combo counter and mods

susagreegebusiness

[wet hatch]

Ok but real talk though. Is there like, a good rapier/saber style weapon?

I know most rapiers kinda suck.

[tight plaza]

Rapier and good wheeze

[wet hatch]

hence why I said STYLE weapon. Cause some weapons LOOK close to Rapiers

but aren't, for some reason.

[tight plaza]

Yeah

They suck for AoE

Great single target tho

[wet hatch]

Anyway do you know any good rapier/saber looking weapons that I could work with for my Sevagoth fit?

tryin to use a weapon that matches the hat and appearance of the Prime

Cause Prime LOOKS like it'd use a Rapier or Saber just off appearances lol

I like to go for themed loadouts so.

[tight plaza]

There is not a lot of them

Distreza prime is both drip and really good for single target

[wet hatch]

like for example, my Excal is currently using more traditional style weapons since Excal's a master of swords and katanas basically. Dread, Despair and Syam.

Makes for really drippy and interesting loadouts

[wet hatch]

what about Nami Solo? Isn't that like a Saber?

I said Rapier OR Saber.

[tight plaza]

Nami solo is meh

[tight plaza]

Destreza Prime is rapier lol

[wet hatch]

Do you know any weapons that look like sabers that could be decent?

[wet hatch]

I was told not to bother. It's bad 😭

[wet hatch]

that is hella drippy though.

also tbf this is going on Sevagoth so idk if I'd need AOE on a melee

when I can just snort glue and press two buttons

and watch as everything dies lol.

[tight plaza]

This is my main weapon

[wet hatch]

What does Gunsen do?

[tight plaza]

It kills enemies fast

[wet hatch]

like, genuine question. It's one of those weapons I CONSTANTLY overlook

[wet hatch]

So do other weapons. What makes Gunsen different

[tight plaza]

Being warfangs, having great stats and great stance

What else would I ask for lol

Both fists and warfangs have one of the best stances in the game

[wet hatch]

Don't fists suck though?

like, the furax fist things are bad aren't they?

like, even the wraith ones are mostly just a statstick?

I think?

[tight plaza]

Tekko Prime is one of the best weapons lol

[wet hatch]

Are they? Wow. I wanted to use fist weapons with Atlas for one of my fits. Might have to buy both off the market at some point

[wet hatch]

does tekko prime have any cool skins or nah

[tight plaza]

Look at those juicy stats

[wet hatch]

The saliva be drippin rn lmao

[wet hatch]

What does Tekko do exactly? is it a horde clearer? single target thing? slam? all of the above?

[tight plaza]

I run junglebells

Anything with melee influence is hoarde clearer

[wet hatch]

aw I don't have primed fury yet 😭

not that far into the login thing. Not even close.

[tight plaza]

Just use berserker one, it is more attack speed.
I just hate having conditions on mods

[wet hatch]

berserker fury?

[strong field]

Omg its one of those cowbarff mods...!!!!

[tight plaza]

Fashion frame is real endgame

[strong field]

(where is my +200% atkspd mod DE)

[summer temple]

Stat sticks don't exist anymore
And furax wraith are good cause incarnon

[tight plaza]

Ehhh they are mid at best

[summer temple]

Quickening is good enough

[wet hatch]

I have berserker fury

[summer temple]

They're good
Any Incarnon is at the very least decent

[summer temple]

Melee influence makes any melee AoE

[tight plaza]

Yeah

[strong field]

I honestly think quickening is straight up better than pfury

[tight plaza]

No

[wet hatch]

How does that work?

[strong field]

Yes

[tight plaza]

40% attack speed vs 70% attack speed

[strong field]

What

[summer temple]

Read what melee influence does

[strong field]

Yeah and where did the 70% come from

[tight plaza]

40% attack speed and combo count which is useless if u run Naramon

[summer temple]

Berserker

[tight plaza]

35% that stacks 2 times?

[strong field]

I said pfury bro

Yall trippin

[summer temple]

Most people don't run naramon

[tight plaza]

55% vs 40%... I will take 15% more

[wet hatch]

Oooooh I see. I see. Okay. Yeah that makes sense.

[tight plaza]

Why?

Is there any useful school outside of Naramon?

[wet hatch]

I forgot Naramon even existed.

[tight plaza]

[wet hatch]

there's that one to revive yourself

[strong field]

Because madurai is objectively the best focus school

[wet hatch]

forgot which one that is.

[strong field]

Fight me

[wet hatch]

and Madurai.

[tight plaza]

When u max it, it is passive

It works even if u don't have school active

[strong field]

Whatchu mean lmao

[tight plaza]

So it is not relevant

[strong field]

Oh the revive yeah

We all trippin

[tight plaza]

Yes

It is irrelevant school cuz once maxed it is just passive

[summer temple]

Like
All of them?

[tight plaza]

Zariman is pointless now

[summer temple]

So did most people

[tight plaza]

Vazarin is meh

Unaru is also meh

Madurai and Naramon i guess

[summer temple]

Unairu is great for general use

[strong field]

I only use naramon for leveling up (idk if it even works but I don't care enough to find out)

[summer temple]

Naramon like only gives melee stuff, it's genuinely forgettable

[rocky token]

i'd argue naramon is the least useful school

[tight plaza]

Not really

It is comfty

I don't need to care about maintaining combo

[strong field]

Dexterity arcanes exist anyway

[tight plaza]

Which are not used

[summer temple]

Yeah, it does next to nothing

[summer temple]

Neither is naramon 💀

[strong field]

Unless you want to actually main melee there's no point going naramon and even then just use dexterity arcanes

[wet hatch]

Or just use galvanized reflex.

[tight plaza]

Not everyone runs heavy builds

I hate them

[strong field]

Takes up a modslot im good

[wet hatch]

or some other combo extension mod.

or whatever

[tight plaza]

Ye, let me waste mod slot

[wet hatch]

if it's THAT HARD to maintain.

[rocky token]

only one of those is for heavy builds

also

[wet hatch]

From my experience combo is not hard to maintain like at all without any form of arcane or school or anything so idk what I'm doing right but it's working.

[tight plaza]

You literally sent dexterity which we stopped to use

[tight plaza]

And then u sent incarnon evolution that is completely irrelevant to this discussion

[rocky token]

there's a million ways to extend combo duration

[summer temple]

Not everyone runs combo builds
I played 1000 hours of the game and I basically exclusively used heavies cause they're not as annoying to use

[rocky token]

naramon is pretty irrelevant even for a melee playstyle

[tight plaza]

WOW, passive tied to a weapon

wheeze

[rocky token]

which works with any melee?

[summer temple]

Vs an entire focus school

[rocky token]

WOW, passive tied to focus school?

[tight plaza]

Ye, just remove normal weapon and use garbage

Susge

[rocky token]

and just remove the good focus school and use garbage?

[wet hatch]

Is Rauta that bad?

[summer temple]

Rauta is like
Bad yeah

[tight plaza]

Naramon is usefull? And what focus school I would even use?

[strong field]

Yes.

[rocky token]

rauta is there as a support for your melee weapon

[tight plaza]

Unaru, Zariman and Zenurik are useless

[summer temple]

It's one of the coolest guns in tge game
But it is NOT good

[wet hatch]

that sucks. It actually looks cool.Are ANY of Kullervo's weapons good?

[summer temple]

Unairu being useless is massive cope

[rocky token]

zariman is not a school, unairus is probably the 2nd best school and zenurik is the comfiest one at all levels of play

[summer temple]

That's his only weapon

[tight plaza]

How is unaru useful?

[wet hatch]

oh is it? I thought he had a melee too

[summer temple]

Free armor and shield strip
Free primed sure footed

[tight plaza]

Zenurik is... If u just started the game

[rocky token]

armor strip and unairu whisps

[tight plaza]

That is completely irrelevant

[rocky token]

unairu is literally eidolon meta

[summer temple]

Vazarin is free survivability so it's decent at the very least

[tight plaza]

Eidolons are dead content

[ebon sparrow]

Self revive

[summer temple]

???
That'd be madurai

[wet hatch]

As someone who's using Zenurik rn... I gotta be straight up. I don't even USE my focus school stuff half the time. I'm usually always in my warframe lol

[rocky token]

ah yeah becaause once you get to a certain point you stop using energy

[tight plaza]

Yes

[summer temple]

It's significantly more relevant than combo duration 💀

[rocky token]

nah main dps uses unairu

[strong field]

And you won't need naramon on any level. Beginners don't need it, midgame players don't need it, endgame players what have you

[rocky token]

unless meta changed since angels of the zariman

[summer temple]

💀

[tight plaza]

No?

Madurai was always meta

[summer temple]

I was about to say that unairu hasn't been used since 2021 for eidos

[tight plaza]

Ye

[rocky token]

which is around the last time eidos were relevant tbf

[tight plaza]

Even in <2021 people use unairu or madurai more the less the same

[tight plaza]

Skill issue

[rocky token]

but still unairu is a million times more useful than naramon lmao

[tight plaza]

Self revive has little to no use

If u are dying non stop, it is build issue

[wet hatch]

so wait what're the most useful schools for a guy who doesn't really use my operator much?

[tight plaza]

Naramon

[strong field]

Madurai ngl lmao just for the extra damage

[tight plaza]

Cuz I almost never use operator

[wet hatch]

bias is crazy.

[ebon sparrow]

Never said I was
It's a use, regardless

[wet hatch]

ok so focus into Madurai sooner or later, got it.

[rocky token]

probably zenurik if you dont use the operator, but once you get to doing stuff that requires operator mode you tend to swap to madurai

[strong field]

It's all madurai? Always has been 🔫

[tight plaza]

Madurai is most usefull if u gonna use operator

[summer temple]

Not using operator then calling schools useless
Wild

[tight plaza]

No competition

[tight plaza]

Zenurik is quite literally useless

[summer temple]

Madurai is great yea
More damage, cast speed

[tight plaza]

For anyone that is not in early game

[summer temple]

It's okay, it's not useless

[rocky token]

saying last gasp is useless is all i needed to hear to stop engaging tbh

[wet hatch]

the only thing I mess with that requires madurai is the kuva thing

[strong field]

Lowk forgot the cast speed exists

[summer temple]

Last gasp is a wayboud, to be fair

[rocky token]

what kuva thing requires madurai

[rocky token]

yeah but they didnt argue that they just said it was useless lmao

[wet hatch]

where you have to hit the red smoke with your operator thing and dash into the guys to make them vulnerable to shoot

[tight plaza]

This is not that useful lol

Also, it is waybound

[rocky token]

you can do that without madurai wha

[summer temple]

It's the most noticeable thing tbh
I only use madurai when I plan to fight with operator, so when I ho back to the frame, the speed is very noticeable

[wet hatch]

i meant operator

not madurai specifically.

[strong field]

That's fair enough but I've always used cast speed shards so I don't notice the speed increase much

[tight plaza]

I literaly said it is waybound-passive so it is useless to have school active?

Susge

[summer temple]

Fair

[summer temple]

Self revive is good to have for sure

[strong field]

Don't die ok it's not good for you

[tight plaza]

Anyways, do we know when we are getting Heavy Scythe incarnon?

After Tennocon?

[summer temple]

Should be on Wednesday

[tight plaza]

Peepo_Looking

[tranquil kayak]

What are the new augments coming out? I can't find any info online

It just keeps giving me 'Isleweaver drops on June 25' lmao

[summer temple]

Should be with isleweaver

[tranquil kayak]

Is there a dev workshop?

[summer temple]

No idea

[tranquil kayak]

Found this but it doesn't tell me what the augments are, just who they're for
https://www.warframe.com/news/devstream-188-overview

[rocky token]

they revealed the augments for jade and citrine iirc

on twitter

[tranquil kayak]

Ah

[willow bluff]

And oraxia subsume

[tight plaza]

Citrine augument

nekocheer

[summer temple]

Citrine augment gonna make me build a pet

[tight plaza]

Damn, my Nautilus just got an upgrade

[pseudo forge]

not sure if nautilus would count for that
"free-moving companion"

[summer temple]

Won't work on nautilus

[summer temple]

Yes, specifically doesn't work on sentinels

[tight plaza]

Oh is it only for companions?

[summer temple]

Only pets

[tight plaza]

That is lame

Lame

[summer temple]

Sentinels are also companions

[summer temple]

Agreed, I almost exclusively use sentinels lmao

[willow bluff]

Reminder that dead vulpaphylas are also considered sentinels

So this mod won't work in their sentinel state

[tight plaza]

So that augument is pretty useless to me then

Great

[pseudo forge]

wonder what the split is on "pets" vs sentinels
i use a chesa kubrow most of the time, for the occasional double loot

[willow bluff]

And their sentinel state cannot be skipped by recovery timer mods like momentous bond

[tight plaza]

Back to panzer I guess

[willow bluff]

So a frequently dieing kubrow, Predasite or kavat will still be using this augment more than a vulpaphyla if u can revive them quickly

[solar halo]

just unequip the mod that makes them do that then

[willow bluff]

Also Moa and hound will just go crazy with this augment

[tight plaza]

Oh right, hounds...

[summer temple]

Noted
Need to make a proper pet then

[willow bluff]

Hounds might work the best with citrine augment

[tight plaza]

I will just run it on Panzer, DE probably forgot to code that it doesn't work on down state

[willow bluff]

U can get a readymade pet from sister of parvos

[tight plaza]

What they even provide

[summer temple]

Ye, I do need 1 more hound for MR anyway

[summer temple]

Priming, mostly
They might work for the kubrow set mods too

[willow bluff]

Faster priming than panzer vulpaphyla
And not just viral, but u can add more priming elements like radiation, magnetic, puncture, impact, heat or cold

And they deal insane damage

[tight plaza]

But... Citrine 3 already does that

[willow bluff]

They can also turn into jade eximus or split into 3 smaller versions which may active 3 different citrine gems

[tight plaza]

Seems... Overkill

[summer temple]

So you can use a different pet

Huras for example

[willow bluff]

Multiply that gem by 3

[summer temple]

Or adarza for crit

[tight plaza]

Huras... eehhh

[willow bluff]

Not the kubrow exclusive mods

[summer temple]

Can't use the mecha set ?

[tight plaza]

Adarza gives crit?

[willow bluff]

The reason why I said hounds, is because their ability to split into 3 might result in multiplying Citrine's augment gem to 3

[willow bluff]

Yes

[summer temple]

Yes?