gameplay-discussion

[fair flame]

It was a puzzle that actually made you study the foes of the early game

[timid goblet]

Dam

[gloomy tusk]

Yup and also i already have completed many quests where detron was but still no changes

[fair flame]

But I guess expecting players to ever bother looking at the things there shooting it's waay to hard for anyone blow the age of 25.

[timid goblet]

U just gotta kill stuff

@gloomy tusk u only need 60 of one of them

Go for these

They are abundant af

Not the worst

Attack speed negative isn't the worst stat for a heavy attack melee but it does affect the heavy attack windup

So while the crit and damage are nice it male the weapon slow af

Will likely sell good anyways

Perfect for a slam build tho as slams dont care about attack speed since u can roll animation cancel

[timid goblet]

Idk

I believe just kilking everything on sight on that run for a good 10 minutes should give a good bit of progress

Regardless if they look or not at what they shooting

Cus i don't exactly get to see what im killing either

I see enemy...vaporize

[timid goblet]

The main reason you had time to see things back then is that ur pet didnt inmediate murder everything on the room

[fair flame]

True things die a lot faster now.

To be fair the only hard things to understand are the infested faces

[timid goblet]

Idk..infected go boom...quest meters goes up

If everything on sight dies

Ur not missing anything

[gloomy tusk]

I already did this

[fair flame]

Yaa but that doesn't count if they get stolen by room nukes

[timid goblet]

True
Gotta go solo

[timid goblet]

Then do the rest..hustle up

[fair flame]

But then you don't really know where to go solo

[gloomy tusk]

Im trying but like i sayd im stuck at detron man the glyph is half full and i strugling to fill it full

[timid goblet]

Do you know own how they look like?

[gloomy tusk]

Err nope

[timid goblet]

Grey colored corpus

Very little blue

@gloomy tusk

Ud have to turn off enemy outline for this

[gloomy tusk]

Im trying but still stuck at half full

[unkempt swift]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-gauss-prime-prime-warframe-speed-gif-12485080997186680737

[distant whale]

Hello

[rigid zenith]

no it's just warframe player syndrome

the name of the game past early-game is AoE

[gloomy tusk]

Im gonna touch grass for a while now and then try again after dinner

[timid goblet]

XD

[distant whale]

What's the easiest thing to farm for ducats?

[rigid zenith]

i think just any unrefined relic will do

capture missions

[pseudo forge]

yea literally anything you already have for ducats + quick mission

[distant whale]

I'm farming the two void missions for relics, but I don't know if any one of them have good common rewards that are better than others

[pseudo forge]

some paris prime parts are worth a little more iirc? but most follow the usual 15/45/100 ducat thing

[distant whale]

Been a couple of years since I last played

I see

Thanks!

Is it better to make the parts or just sell the blueprints?

[rocky breach]

theres more lith relics in the pool than meso/neo
so the void captures are just depending on what you want to farm hepit=lith, ukko=meso/neo
both are ~93% chance for relics (~6.7% for a specific relic), with the last 7% a chance for Aya

[distant whale]

I got 3 ayas in a row yesterday, so that was nice(?)

[static axle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JwY7zzGFyuA?si=8hMv4ABvEi3kza9R What ability did this guy use and HOW does it have that much range?

[lofty garden]

Think you have your answer in the comments on the short, but probably vauban’s tether mine

[rocky token]

i just came back after a while, what coda weapons are the hottest rn?

[fair flame]

All of them are pretty hot

Coda mire for best in slot melee if you like slams

Coda sporthax or bassises for primary

Coda cabolesyt or dual coda toxocist for secondary

[rain loom]

hey im doing the rev quest if i already have the parts can i skip the bountie part ?

[rocky token]

can you apply the incarnon to the toxocyst or are they considered different weapons

[tulip magnet]

if you like hirudo then coda hirudo is like 3x the hirudo power

[fair flame]

It's not the same toxacist

[tulip magnet]

toxocyst != torxica

[rocky token]

i see

[fair flame]

I just call them infested nail guns

[rocky token]

pathocyst still highest base damage?

[fair flame]

There gimick is neet

[rocky token]

on glaives i mean

[warm heron]

Nyx Prime?

[fair flame]

Coda pathyosict is fun should definitely try it on a explosive blunce influence build

[bright skiff]

is it possible to get fsr3 or higher in warframe?

[fair flame]

What is fsr3?

[bright skiff]

uhh amd upscaling stuff

[fair flame]

Ohh I can't help with techno babble

[lofty garden]

why would you do that?

[rocky breach]

i think steve said they had later versions of FSR/DLSS (and maybe XeSS) in the pipeline, mainly for soulframe, then they would likely backport it to warframe when its done
but i dont think its a priority since warframe runs decently on old hardware (though the newest tilesets are pretty taxing compared to the rest of the game)

[lofty garden]

and no, not until Steve works on it

what cpu/gpu are you using that you think upscaling would help?

crickets intensify

[warm cloak]

Hi, i need help with this bcs mi sister of parvos is in rank 5 and the game is confusing me

[rocky breach]

liches / sisters use the same requiem system

you're trying to find the correct order for the 3 requiems you discovered

[daring parrot]

can you resend that second image

[rocky breach]

from your stab history
Jahu at 1 and 2 is incorrect
Lohk at 2 is incorrect
so its likely: Lohk-Netra-Jahu as the correct order

im assuming you're using an Oull, since your known requiems dont have vome in it

[daring parrot]

they dont have oull apparently

[rocky breach]

without and with oull stabbing flow charts

[icy vector]

just started using this nataruk thing today r these good mods for it imstill pretty new so im not sure

[sour idol]

There is a lot of room fro improvement there. If you're at max capacity right now you need to add an orkin catalyst, to start

[patent valve]

can you trade the antivirus mods like requiem mods?

[warm cloak]

Okeeey thanks bro this sister was confusing me, wanna help me with the requiems until she appears pls?

[sour idol]

Metal Auger and Thunderbolt aren't worth it, add Vital Sense and +element mods, take off Hush if you need the extra capacity. If you have it, I would also add Hunter Munitions. Likely won't be able to add them without that catalyst tho.

[sour idol]

Wiki says yes, but they're much easier to acquire than requiems, so try farming them normally

[drifting prawn]

There was recently a nvidia driver update where you can use the latest dlss transformer model for better visuals in warframe

Havent tried it yet

[rocky breach]

yeah you dont wanna do that for online games

dll swapping, bad idea

[drifting prawn]

Oh is that bannable?

[rocky breach]

easy way to get flagged by automated stuff

[drifting prawn]

But why would nvidia allow you to do it then? Dont they speak with the devs

[rocky breach]

there was a community DLSS dll swap tool, or you could use inspector. nvidia just put it into their drivers/app for the 5000 series release.
depending on how/what the anti cheats scan, it could be counted as file modification and either just not let you run the game, warn you, or just outright flag you

[drifting prawn]

Its not the community tool its the dlss swapper for all rtx cards

In the nvidia app

[rocky breach]

yes im saying previously it was swapped either through inspector, or using a community swapper

[drifting prawn]

Oh yes

[rocky breach]

now its just in the app, but its the same thing functionally

it replaces the file

so its a big at your own risk thing for online games

some might be fine, others not so, but unless you get confirmation directly from the devs, theres always the risk

[drifting prawn]

Might be worth asking support then

[rocky breach]

FF14 is pretty lax on stuff like that (because a large group of their playerbase does nodding/rp/etc and they support it or at least look the other way), but WoW scans for that sort of stuff (since there have been driver edits which gave wallhacks in the past)
and for competetive shooters like cs2/valorant i would expect them to be pretty strict too

not sure how sensitive warframes anti cheat is, but it doesn't like cheatengine (or other hex editors), and I vaguely remember some people getting flagged for shader mods using things like reshade/sweetfx

so if you do wanna try updated DLSS dlls/transformers, would be risky unless you got a reply from DE directly

[rocky token]

who decided that all antivirus mods should have the same source because im gonna kms if i get another repeat

[viscid saddle]

small inconsistency with the kavat upgrade thing lol

[warm crane]

In the past the launcher would warn you should you happen to have cheat engine running in the background.

I'm not sure if that is still the case though. But either way i wouldn't play around and have it running in the background while warframe is running.

[drifting prawn]

Might be worth asking support then

[daring parrot]

try transmuting them

[rocky token]

i got another repeat

:D

at least the bounty rotated and now it doesnt suck ass

[distant rapids]

second worst warframe according to overframe btw

shows just how bs that website is

[daring parrot]

it says yareli is c tier

its crazy

[jagged minnow]

is there a way to farm archgun mods fast?

[void wyvern]

so let's say I want to get specific prime version of warframe, but relics are found in some "prime vault" and wiki says that none of the relics are available now. Is that means I have 2 options which is:
A - trading
B - wait for the relics to be available ?

[jagged minnow]

yes

[void wyvern]

aw.

[pallid canyon]

I feel like every warframe is realistically good minus oberon

so whats worse is somewhat subjective

[void wyvern]

so that means I can now for example... finish Wisp Prime... wait when she gets vaulted and then trade her for plat.. so then I could get enough for warframe I want to.. huh

[pallid canyon]

but in no world does Yareli belong below frames like inaros or limbo

or has companion tech knocked inaros back up on that list

no clue atp that shits so lame

[distant rapids]

ik yet she should be A tier bc shes both a tank with 90% dmg reduction with knockdown immunity when riding on merulina, and a damage dealing monster that has an ability to deal dmg vuln without capping like nova with 100% (mine in particular has 463%) and 200% secondary crit chance when moving as a passive

only bad ability she has is aquablades bc it doesnt deal enough dmg for steel path, but it does offer an easy choice for a helminth ability if you dont use merulina

[quaint fable]

I swear i HATE How overframe still puts yareli and nyx at C tier

Like, YARELI IS JUST STRONG

She's easily an A pick

And nyx is doing inf% damage rn, so S tier too

[lofty garden]

Why are you reading tier lists?

[void wyvern]

why to care about tier lists?

[quaint fable]

Because overframe

[lofty garden]

Why, did they implement a system to archive or flag builds that are out of date?

[quaint fable]

No, i just hate them for the love of the game

[obsidian ridge]

Overframe is very outdated

[distant rapids]

i've heard

but i think the builds section is up to date

since its other players posting their builds

[distant rapids]

i usually dont i find them funny to look at

[obsidian ridge]

Inaros is good now shush

[pallid canyon]

ok buddy

go play with your cats

[obsidian ridge]

Thats fair but u can find builds elsewhere

[obsidian ridge]

Lol

Jokes on I don't even have cats

[distant rapids]

i think the ranking of tier list on overframe is mostly based on public popularity

[quaint fable]

Why the hell is the voidrig A tier then?

[distant rapids]

i loved the old inaros making his strength as low as possible on a defence mission and absorb an enemy making the enemy immortal during the animation so people gotta wait like 15 mins for him to finish depending on the level of enemy

[vale prism]

i hope we get more lv500+ content ngl

[urban harness]

Koumei s tier

[lofty garden]

Voidrig strong like bull.

[obsidian ridge]

Lol

[distant rapids]

bc more players have that than bonewidow

[vale prism]

its ok

[hidden saffron]

My friends been farming for burston incarnon but he barely missed it, do you guys know any good blast viable weapons like burston incarnon?

[obsidian ridge]

Koumei is good cuz multiple status effects but its a roll of a dice lol

[quaint fable]

aint no one thinking about voidrig on a daily basis

[urban harness]

It's really not.

[vale prism]

warframe market

[urban harness]

Koumei presents as random, but really everything is good

[vale prism]

koumei good in long endless missions because of decrees

[hidden saffron]

wdym?

[urban harness]

So you just have to know how to adapt and roll

[quaint fable]

And because she can simply get double crits out of nowhere (love me some decree RNG)

[vale prism]

just buy the prime set/parts

[urban harness]

Plus just the passive plus Co is insane

[quaint fable]

You didn't say any weapons tho

[distant rapids]

koumei is best in endurence missions like survival bc you keep getting stacks and stacks of perm buffs

[tulip magnet]

sybaris incarnon is in rotation next week

[hidden saffron]

Yeah but dont you need to complete the circuit to open the incarnon version? He barely missed it so I was looking for alternatives

[quaint fable]

Phenmor blast is good

[vale prism]

ah thought you were talking about the prime set, mb

[obsidian ridge]

Alot of people don't like that apparently

[quaint fable]

LUCK ISSUE

[vale prism]

braton incarnon is in a week, pretty similar iirc

[urban harness]

Plus a lot of people underrate omamori but I've seen that changing

[vale prism]

its pretty mid in short missions
which yknow
is kind of the point

[urban harness]

Koumeis passive and co melts short missions anyway

[quaint fable]

Heard that omamori on saryn is good

[urban harness]

It's probably good on anyone shield gating

[quaint fable]

Ehhhhhhhh its still a 50% chance

[urban harness]

Which is huge

Half the time you don't have to get your shields back up

Because you ignored the hit

[distant rapids]

im just glad chroma is finally getting reworked

[urban harness]

Chroma rework?

[distant rapids]

yeah i heard there was talk of a chroma rework

literally having the worse passive in the game (a double jump)

[quaint fable]

It aint gonna happen for at least 6-8 months ...

[vale prism]

rest of their kit is pretty good

theres a reason why they have been meta for certain activities for years 😃

[distant rapids]

i remember when chroma was the goat up there with mesa

[tulip magnet]

it's the most boring kit in the game I'm pretty sure

[vale prism]

iont even like chroma but i think that they have some relativly unique characteristics

[tulip magnet]

tell me you don't remember Rhino's passive without...

[quaint fable]

Its the classic " half of my kit is literally useless but one of my abilities is goated for no reason "

[vale prism]

then again im not intimately familiar with the entire roster

[distant rapids]

i've forgotten it

[quaint fable]

When Excalibur had a Biiiiig jump as an ability....

[urban harness]

Chroma is like. The pt goat

[vale prism]

i mean 2 3 and 4 are good in certain ways, its really just their 1 and passive imo that are mid

[quaint fable]

Vex armor was good... It just isnt that good anymore

[vale prism]

meta arbi too

[urban harness]

How so?

[tulip magnet]

ele ward is pretty meh due to being additive with everything, scream is useless, effigy is an extremely finnicky credit doubler

[vale prism]

when u want credits any increase is valuable

especially considering they are all multiplicative with eachother

[urban harness]

As someone that does a lot of trading
The chroma credit doubler is a lifesaver

[vale prism]

i leeched 170mil creds from pt during the last credit event weekend and didnt even grind that hard

iont even have meta PT builds

[tulip magnet]

I'm not saying it isn't useful, it's just boring as hell

[obsidian ridge]

Not for me lol

[vale prism]

i think that the augment for effigy sounds unique, its probably just mid idk im not interested in chroma

[vale prism]

"Chroma (Another buffer + secondary damage dealer) Beginner friendly"

i havnt done meta arbi yet but ive looked at some of the builds

S rank arbi is always at a hour for me when i cant make it :(

[rocky token]

i think he is more like a substitute in case you dont have access to the other options kinda thing

[urban harness]

Makes sense

[vale prism]

still meta for any credit farm

esp considering its shareable

[urban harness]

Koumei is my fav frame but she sucks midgame

[vale prism]

can duo PT and just leech off of a cracked volt

everybody wins

[vale prism]

i rlly like the way she looks

she also just keeps getting bumped to the bottom of the list of frames i want to build :/

[urban harness]

Why

[vale prism]

idk

🫠

[fathom cipher]

koumei got subsumed the instant she reached lvl 30 for me 😭

[vale prism]

ima build gyre next

[urban harness]

I might need to get a second to subsume.

[fathom cipher]

her subsume is so strong

[vale prism]

light work

[fathom cipher]

i love it on mirage especially

works super well with the mirage clones

[urban harness]

I was thinking it might be good on rework valkyr

[fathom cipher]

wisp has been added to my list of having fun frames lol

mirage will always be my main tho xd

[vale prism]

ive been having fun w/ gauss

[fathom cipher]

i think baplette already saw my wisp clip

[vale prism]

first time going to level cap i took gauss
last night :D

[fathom cipher]

oooooh

[vale prism]

suprised my joke nami solo build made it that far too

all in on range 😃

[fathom cipher]

range is so good on nami solo tho

[vale prism]

13.65m range

[fathom cipher]

super awesome with influence yipeee

[vale prism]

zero attack speed modded because of redline and more range lol

[fair flame]

Done a 24 hour survival once. never touching level cap again. And that was before all the crazy 1,000,000,000 damage nunbers we can achieve now a days

[vale prism]

i only went for ducats

[fathom cipher]

u got gauss to fix that attack speed yeppp

[urban harness]

For ducats?

[vale prism]

ducats

[fathom cipher]

so many rolls 😭

[vale prism]

i wanted range elec -slash

[urban harness]

I need duats ;w;
Finally got the koumei augment last night

Now I just need to do void cascade for a while

[fair flame]

I did it as I needed the rare mods back in the day to sell

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-warframe-bnp-corpus-stonks-gif-17500842

[vale prism]

i just sell endo

:p

[urban harness]

I just buy things and sell things

[vale prism]

itching to buy the gyre collection

[fair flame]

You can trade Endo

Atatan sure

But not Endo directly

[vale prism]

endo + credits = platinum

[urban harness]

I've made 4k plat in the last 3 months

[vale prism]

idk how much ive made

[fair flame]

Ehh the 24 hour farm didn't even bother me back in 2017 I was the nekros of the squad all I had to do was afk and sit still so I just watched movies and took naps XD

[vale prism]

survival completely different than cascade

[fair flame]

Heck I even played other games in the background

[fair flame]

Cascade wasn't a thing back then lol

I'm an og player

[vale prism]

ya level cap has changed a lot

[fathom cipher]

holy

[fair flame]

It's so much more lame

[vale prism]

or atleas the most mainstram method to access it

[rocky token]

fr nekros was the chillest role in farms because you'd just stay with 3 up and maybe go look for red orbs from time to time if your team wasnt dropping boosters

[fair flame]

The fact ohh let me hit level cap hits it in just 2 hours. That's just lame most of y'all players don't have an focus span of one objective rotation

[rocky token]

it's far better this way tbh

[vale prism]

imho survival afk is kinda boring outside of farming resources, which i dont see you needing to do more than a couple hours of (for MR fodder craft purposes)
ik some people craft thousands of energy packs for meta farms and farm for that

[vale prism]

actively playing the game tho and not just afk

[fair flame]

I was talking about the 80% of the community who can't even handle that

[urban harness]

Damn. That's a lotta stuff sold

[vale prism]

level cap is pretty pointless outside of build limit testing too
unless ur selling r5 zariman arcanes (which none of them are particularly valuable) or farming steel essence

[fair flame]

At this point I don't really sell anything anymore I just buy plat to support de

Ohh that reminds me I need to finish buying all the tennogen I'm missing 20 items

[eternal marten]

b-buying all the tennogen.........

i wish i had that kinda money lmao

[fathom cipher]

REAL LOL

i always want more tennogen

[tender perch]

Wassup chat

[tender perch]

Dude I've been aching for Caliban tennogen for eons. Or really anyone else tbh

[fathom cipher]

i need dagath skins asap

[tender perch]

It feels like they pump them out so slowly

[mellow turret]

flexing daddy's money in the warframe discord is an objectively funny type of person to be

there's some yareli tennogen ive been hoping will be redone so it can be added to the game

a skin + helmet called Yareli Hoshi

[tender perch]

Have you checked the tennogen workshop site? Literal BANGER skins just sitting there, collecting dust

[fathom cipher]

ik have u seen that dagath heirloom idea

[tender perch]

I haven't

[tender perch]

Why is her Dagathoobies out

[eternal marten]

why not??

[fair flame]

Glad I didn't say it

[tender perch]

I at least want a Caliban Heirloom concept

[tender perch]

Someone had to. I mean, they're there.

[pearl parcel]

amazing news bap

[vale prism]

i love stating the obvious

[pearl parcel]

no not that, im telling you that there is amazing news

they finally buffed teh wasp launcher in hd2, its good antiarmor now

[vale prism]

huh

[pearl parcel]

its a homing rocket launcher with several shots, deals reduced damage compared to larger ones

[vale prism]

ngl kinda hoping the next poe1 league isnt too soon

[pearl parcel]

whats poe1

[vale prism]

even tho its been like

over an entire year atp 😐

[pearl parcel]

wait whats poe1

[vale prism]

path of exile

[fathom cipher]

path of exile

[pearl parcel]

oh cool

[vale prism]

i think sok is now

longest league

[obsidian ridge]

Damn

[tender perch]

To be fair, cascade is infinitely more engaging and challenging than survivals

You shouldn't need to sit in a survival for 10 hours just to stress test a build for level cap

[vale prism]

only reason i could see ppl doing that much survival these days is if they are crafting thousands of energy packs

[tender perch]

I personally think survivals should have their level scaling sped up. It'd offer a nice bit of variety for endurance players, and won't really effect casuals since they only stay in survivals for 30 minutes max anyways.

[vale prism]

i hope more content gets added around eta/eda level

[fair flame]

Lol you should have to even do level cap content to begin with. that's not what the games designed for.

[tender perch]

Eta/eda?

[tender perch]

That...doesn't mean people can't do it? That's a horrible viewpoint.

[vale prism]

elite archimedia

[rocky token]

make the scaling even more exponential

give me 2 hour level cap survival

[tender perch]

Ohhh
Hell yeah, I'd love stuff like that. Just without all the pesky modifiers. It should be difficult without needing to do so artificially

[tender perch]

You gotta keep in mind that casuals won't be able to handle exponential scaling. So maybe after an hour, it starts doing so.

[vale prism]

i mean

[tender perch]

Gives normal players enough time to do their missions, while also rewarding endurance players

[vale prism]

with decent gear ETA is still lightwork

[sudden tendon]

Js make a separate mode for endurance

[tender perch]

Yeah, but that doesn't mean its justified. It's kind of a lazy way to increase difficulty

[vale prism]

survival good format for endless

[tender perch]

I think difficulty should come from game mechanics and enemies instead of universal modifiers

[vale prism]

this game's power creep is kinda cooked imho

[tender perch]

Horribly so

[vale prism]

also didnt people get rlly upset when they added eximus units

and they got reworked multiple times

[tender perch]

Yes, because 90% of Warframe players are whiny and don't like change or engagement

Not to say the Eximus changes were flawless, but they're blown way out of proportion

[fair flame]

I want difficulty from enemy gimicks not just inflation of damage and health stats for them

[tender perch]

Exactly

[vale prism]

i mean we got eximus units

[fair flame]

It's why I'm excited for the 3 slightly reworked grinner units

[tender perch]

But the issue is that we do so much damage now that you kind of HAVE to have super high numbers

[fair flame]

And the reworked vor boss

[tender perch]

But at the same time
That doesn't mean we can't have engaging mechanics

[fair flame]

Why don't we have more foes like the hyeeka masters who have built in resistance to certain damage types

[lofty garden]

They do?

They’re usually dead.

[tender perch]

Imma do a sin and compare Warframe to Destiny rq. Champion enemies are a good example of engaging mechanics.

Enemies that are borderline unkillable unless you bring specific weapon mods or abilities that weaken their defenses for you to kill

[wide sorrel]

We do though?

[fair flame]

Ye they take 60% less heat and 80% less slash damage

[wide sorrel]

Champions aren't lol. They're lock and key content.

[lofty garden]

No one likes the scaldra DR.

[fair flame]

They have Dr? They feel so pathetic weak compared to the murrmur

[lofty garden]

I didn’t notice. I use corrosive for Grineer

The one unit with the green bubble wrap

[wide sorrel]

Certain Scaldra have massive DR

[fair flame]

Shoot them in the crotch that's there headshot spot

[tender perch]

Not so much anymore. There are dozens of abilities that shut down their abilities. They're also not too much of a threat as to where you can get tactical around them

[fair flame]

I want more individual unit gimicks.

[tender perch]

It doesn't have to be a copy/paste, but enemies like those are kinda cool imo

[fair flame]

I like how they are makeing the excavator guys shoot out cluster bombs as an ability.

[tender perch]

Demolysts offer those kind of threats, but not a fun counterplay. They're just walking tanks

[wide sorrel]

Champs have always been bad imo. What's good are tormentors tbh and other mini bosses like that.

[tender perch]

We need better enemies that aren't just meat shields

[wide sorrel]

Light bearer Knights are the ones a little egregious bc they can 360 no scope wallbang 1 tap your bloodline with shield throws

[rocky token]

champs became better once abilities and subclasses could deal with them tbh

[tender perch]

Damn, I forgot about Tormentors. Those are better, actually

Light bearers too

[fair flame]

I'd like the idea of a new eximus units that can pulse ability disabling pulse and give MASSIVE ability damage reduction to Ally's without its aura effect.

[rocky token]

also tormentors are good but the dread as a whole suck ass and are extremely unfair lmao

[pearl parcel]

lmao, hey bap you want to see some guy seal the deal

[rocky token]

day one salvation's was awful because of the dread psions

[tender perch]

Those are just nullies tbh

Maybe less annoying versions tho

[fair flame]

Yes but it allows other factions with out them to have it

[wide sorrel]

Calm down Satan

[vale prism]

ngl iont want my power fantasy in this game to be filled with every other enemy being some kind of roadblock gimmick that you cant just kill normally
and needing to mod for very specific things just for specific gimmick enemies sounds horrendous.

[pearl parcel]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V8OrERwj-9U?feature=share

[wide sorrel]

I feel like every other enemy is an eximus in steel path

[tender perch]

Yeah, I don't like the idea of having to mod specifically for an enemy just to kill them.

But I also don't want the usual bag of health bars that we have now. Something in the middle maybe

[wide sorrel]

I would rather have less eximus and some mini bosses sprinkled in

[tender perch]

Exemus units are boring. Demolysts are boring

[vale prism]

imho part of the warframe power fantasy / identiy is getting strong enough that you just sweep 98% of enemies

[fair flame]

I mean just make it like the demolists pulses where you have to be close to them to disable your ability for like 4 seconds. And gives it's Ally's in range a defensive ability resistance buff

[fair flame]

I'd rather eximus have 2 types. The ones we currently have and then mini boss eximus units. That are stronger and maybe multiple types in one with juice stats

[tender perch]

Of trash, normal enemies perhaps. But I, personally, get more satisfaction after outplaying and beating a stronger opponent.

[vale prism]

i feel like too much of this could clash w/ the rest of the gameplay loop /shrug

[wide sorrel]

This is why DE should readd raids

[tender perch]

Which is why most of my suggestions would be for late game content. Stuff thag the majority of players won't do.

[hidden saffron]

whats the best way to grind voidplume pinion?

[tender perch]

I get that WF is a power fantasy, but God, its so boring just wiping everything

[wide sorrel]

We have so many potential raids DE could make

[vale prism]

i think maybe a completely separate gamemode might be something agreeable for most ppl

[tender perch]

Raids would be epic. With actual mechanics instead of just stepping on platforms

[fair flame]

Ok now I like that idea of a mini boss eximus unit that is basically just 2 eximus combined with a new weapon gimick for each faction

[vale prism]

kinda like what they seem to have tried with duviri

[wide sorrel]

Archon Hunt Triple Threat

[tender perch]

Duviri worms are a great example. They're more like actual bosses instead of mini bosses, but they are a great addition that I'm glad are a thing

[tender perch]

Archons aren't really that scary. Maybe something more tanky like the infested Oni, but with damage phases where you need to do something before beginning the next phase

[vale prism]

idk like to see a boss that has melee focused phases tho

so much stuff in this game is basically invulnerable to most melee and u have to shoot them w/ guns, it feels kinda boring after a point

[wide sorrel]

If you had a triple threat hunt they could fight together and merge for phase 4

[vale prism]

i like how eta/eda has you lock in for the entire run but past that its basically just a randomizer thats pretty lame most of the time

[tender perch]

Could be something like that prolly

[tulip magnet]

archimedea is fun most of the time

[tender perch]

ETA/EDA could serve as the interludes within raids. Like how Destiny raids have main encounters, WF raids could have the sections between those counters be missions you find in ETA/EDA

[tulip magnet]

but sometimes you just get shafted with the rolls

[vale prism]

besides the randomized loadout yeah

[wide sorrel]

The other thing is with how Warframe loot works new challenges need to give worthwhile loot

[tender perch]

While you explore the maps

[fair flame]

I want more multiple stage boss fights where the fight changes each chunk

[vale prism]

my first priority is always "how do i use this kit to die as little as possible" and damage aftewards, which isnt that fun

ive had like 3 weeks now where ive just spammed invis on octavia and did 1% dmg

[tender perch]

WF raids could easily drop dedicated mods, weapon bps, and some of the lesser stuff like omni forma and shards

[vale prism]

once i got wukong and just sat invuln the entire time and did nothing else

[wide sorrel]

Need more strength then

[tender perch]

But the main loot for raids HAS TO BE DEDICATED TO THE RAID ITSELF. You shouldn't be able to get it anywhere else. There needs to be a reason why you do them in the first place

[vale prism]

more archon shards please

[rocky token]

unironically make raids a non-time gated source of shards and make shards tradeable and you have permanently desireable content

add arcanes into the mix

[wide sorrel]

I disagree with locking weapons and mods exclusively from raid, but making them the easy route of acquisition is something I agree with

[vale prism]

ngl i think shards being untradeable is preferable

[rocky token]

nope each activity should have exclusive drops

[tender perch]

No. It has to have exclusive items

[tulip magnet]

non-timegated raids would get so toxic

[rocky token]

you wouldnt want railjack parts being obtainable in a random survival in jupiter

[tender perch]

That's the whole point

[wide sorrel]

Did you play when raids were initially relevant?

I did. It was toxic.

[rocky token]

didn't get to play them nope, but i have played other games with similar mechanics

[vale prism]

i think itd be fine if they had a pity system

[rocky token]

and raid loot should still be raid exclusive

[tender perch]

That would be fine

[vale prism]

u always get currency from the raid and can save up to buy whatever drop u dont get cause RNG

its such a user-friendly system

pls use it more DE

[wide sorrel]

Most Eidolon Arcanes originally came from Raids

[tender perch]

Yes, we know

Which is why arcanes could be a drop, but not the main source

[vale prism]

iont like thee idea of archon shards being tradeable imo

[wide sorrel]

I believe raids should be reward rich, with exclusive cosmetics and items that come from it far easier but not exclusively from it.

[rocky token]

then you just do them a couple times to get the cosmetics and then you have another dead mode and content island

[tender perch]

Exclusive weapon parts, mods, maybe emotes, ship decorations, etc. Stuff like that would be the draw for the raid

[vale prism]

ya more gameplay chase cosmetics would be great

i love chase cosmetics

[wide sorrel]

Make it once a week with good evergreen rewards and it won't be.

[vale prism]

i rlly like how PoE does league challenge cosmetics

DE should take inspiration fr

[wide sorrel]

People catch animals on the open worlds daily for standing...

[rocky token]

what evergreen rewards if you just give stuff that already exists + stuff that you can get and probably already have from other places

[wide sorrel]

Riven mods, Kuva, Forma.

Endo even

[vale prism]

riven transmuters

[wide sorrel]

Another source of rare arcanes

[rocky token]

yeah so either make it worse than arbitrations / arena or kill those modes

[tender perch]

There is legit so much stuff they can put in as raid rewards

[vale prism]

raw vosfor maybe? if we're still talking about high level raids

🤔

[tulip magnet]

it's not about rewards anyway

[wide sorrel]

Can do that too. But it could be a source of hot shot escapist fallout

[vale prism]

ya

[tulip magnet]

the trouble is making it fun without making it jank

[rocky token]

raids will be DoA without exclusive loot

[wide sorrel]

They won't

[rocky token]

at that point just dont make them

[vale prism]

depends on how they're implemented

[wide sorrel]

People still did weekly raids while tricap was a thing

[vale prism]

chat is buying the hex gemini collection a scam if im only gonna play 1 of th e frames (for now)

[wide sorrel]

Yes

[fair flame]

I still find it funny how we was conically chasing after vey hek for 4 entire years because he destroyed the relays.

[vale prism]

i mean volt is meta so ill build them eventually

also nyx is an immortal frame and more interesting than revenant (booba)

[fair flame]

Like a Scooby Doo level of chasing

[wide sorrel]

I find it funny how we haven't killed him but we killed Tyl Regor who was honestly the least evil boss

[tulip magnet]

nyx is dubiously immortal

[vale prism]

ya certainly not the best frame for that

however

[wide sorrel]

When the rework takes Nyx's legs

[vale prism]

booba > efficiency (in some cases)

[vale prism]

if we get a wisp protoframe, how r they gonna have no feet
real question
probably just techrot wierdness tbh

wisp protoframe having feet would be too strong, no way they add that

[tender perch]

They aren't making anymore proto-frames

DE been said this

[vale prism]

its such a cool system tho :(
also free money!

[rocky token]

crippled

[vale prism]

imagine having a money printer and saying "nah"

[rocky token]

war vet

[tender perch]

Tbh I was surprised too, you KNOW they were making money off those Gemeni packs

[fathom cipher]

they said it would take away from their focus on actual gameplay development stuff

[wide sorrel]

Don't think they said we weren't getting more protos. Just we aren't getting more for now

[vale prism]

followed by spiderframe and valkyr heirloom

[tender perch]

1. I'm glad they're done with em. I was never a fan of them. But they have said, live, that they're done with em for now

2. My guess is that they took too much recourses and time away from the actual game

[wide sorrel]

I'm not a fan of protoframes either tbh

[tender perch]

Yeah but you gotta keep in mind that its not just the skins themselves. for proto-frames, they gotta add voice acting, backstories, in-game commentary, and so on

[wide sorrel]

But I don't like a lot of the skins in the game anyways

[tender perch]

Compared to a regular frame that just has a model, SFX, and abilities

[vale prism]

this game has a pretty unique artstyle and i find its a bit of an aquired taste most of the time :/

[wide sorrel]

I want a Trinity skin without the lobster tail for one.

[tender perch]

Yeah, I REALLY don't like proto-frames

But others do. I can respect that

[wide sorrel]

I also want a Jade skin where she's either not pregnant or she's like a void angel

[vale prism]

fr

[tender perch]

Jade has one of my favorite designs. The way her veils open up in her ult like some sort of twisted angel is so cool

But yeah, the belly throws me off

[wide sorrel]

Yes, everything is amazing but the belly

[vale prism]

fr

[tender perch]

We shall see when her prime releases

[vale prism]

i doubt prime would be the frame that changes that

[wide sorrel]

Primed Fetus?

[vale prism]

the skin *

[wide sorrel]

I want a Jade augment that makes her into Tainted Lilith from Binding of Isaac.

[tender perch]

Then what, a deluxe skin?

[vale prism]

will we ever get a flying frame that does not use exalted weapon

[vale prism]

ya? what else

[mellow turret]

i dont think there is going to be a jade skin that doesnt have the glowy pregnancy thing... its like removing the glass armor from gara

[wide sorrel]

Technically Zephyr?

[mellow turret]

does zephyr have an exalted?

[vale prism]

imean cant u get like the same effect from just using -gravity mods

could be an augment i dont know about

[tender perch]

I remember I had a concept for a gravity based frame

[vale prism]

reducted gravity during aim glide iirc is the stat line

ik u can get over -100% and u very slowly float upwards lol

[tender perch]

Well- more of a cosmic based frame. They controlled gravity and portals to summon Lovecraftian monsters

But not as minions. Just as abilities that did a set amount of things

[vale prism]

do you think warframe could pull off a character with a shadow teleport ability 🤔

[tender perch]

Shadow teleport?

[pliant trench]

ash?

[vale prism]

iguess they exist

also kullervo can just point tp around

[pliant trench]

yea both of them need enemy to proc the teleport

[tender perch]

Yeah
His is more menacing cause he doesn't even move

It's just instant. Terrifying

[pliant trench]

the only one can do w/o enemy is nova as far i know

[vale prism]

kullervo

[pliant trench]

right tp to marked location

[tender perch]

Marked location ≠ enemy

[tulip magnet]

technically Nezha, formerly

[tender perch]

Kullervo can just freely tp

[vale prism]

it has a range limit i think?

[pliant trench]

i didnt said she wrong? uh

[tender perch]

Unlike Wisp lol

[vale prism]

true

[tender perch]

But she needs to have a plant down

And its only in that specific area

[pliant trench]

wisp can be tp via mote and her spectre dur no?

[vale prism]

ah yknow what kind of frame we dont have

[pliant trench]

atomicycle?

[tulip magnet]

on a related note, I think Loki should be able to switch with his decoy regardless of range or LoS

[tender perch]

Thank God for thag

[pliant trench]

agree

[vale prism]

when u put like 12 skills into 4 buttons
think ninja from ffxiv or hwei from league of legends
iirc theres something similar in Dota

[tender perch]

Tiamat from Smite

[tulip magnet]

invoker?

[tender perch]

She has like twelve abilities instead of four

[pliant trench]

Dante??

[vale prism]

i forgot about dante
they're so simple

dante basically does not even count smh

[pliant trench]

but he have so many skill/proc via 3 skills

[vale prism]

they have 4 skills

[pliant trench]

1st skill doesnt count when u subsume

[vale prism]

i guess black would count as an ability but white is basically just white+white but worse

[pliant trench]

rarely need to used noctua, since 50% noctua total build is use in his kit summon

[tulip magnet]

manual noctua is nice for cheesing archimedea

[vale prism]

i could see myself using it for the scan passive but thats it

[orchid mist]

I've been playing this game for too long lmao

[vale prism]

best EDA cheese is necramech fr

[pliant trench]

dw founder player still wining the races, and flexing

ah right who own founder pack and both mag n frost heirloom, this ppl flex is toxicated but cant argue

[pliant trench]

no tranferece debuff said what

[vale prism]

didnt know that was a thing :(

guess im back to the tried and true shade invis spam

sit around twiddling my thumbs doing nothing if i get bad weapons

[pliant trench]

i have ptsd and terrible run when both disable gear wheel n tranference in that week challenge

[tulip magnet]

that's what makes Dante good

[vale prism]

shade

[tulip magnet]

sacrifice the last reward and you get a robust frame with a decent weapon

[pliant trench]

all of the struggle for 200 vosfor smh

[vale prism]

buh muh 100%

[pliant trench]

well since we got to play SP comfortably, who need 100% eda

galv mod is truly miracle from DE

[vale prism]

i love powercreep

its like a drug

[pliant trench]

at least it free unlike certain game w transaction - that one is addicted drug

[vale prism]

true

except tennogen skins :(

atleast none of them are expensive

arent all tennogen like, under $10 USD

[pliant trench]

if u in console it count as "free"? or there been info i havent know?

like u can buy tennogen bundle via plat iirc,

[late vessel]

It cost plat yeah

[vale prism]

idk but something about them not being cross platform

[pliant trench]

also remember u need to use "cash" plat

[late vessel]

A bit more expensive over other stuff tho

[pliant trench]

well since it 4 tennogen item in 1 who want to complain lol

[pliant trench]

wait a trade plat or plat u pay?

[late vessel]

It just cost plat like you would buy any other items in the market

The source of the plat doesn't matter

[orchid mist]

on PC, yes, they're all under $10 a piece; in fact, I'm fairly certain syandanas and warframe skins both share the same height of $6.99USD

on console, they cost plat (more than most cosmetics), but TennoGen items bought there are not usable on PC until you pay the equivalent amount in real money. Items bought on PC automatically transfer to console though, so you don't have to spend additional plat there

[vale prism]

ya that makes sense

[pliant trench]

Fun Fact: last year Merge Acc "Event", you can own ur tennogen related to all platform, now not anymore lol

[vale prism]

atleast ive only seen 2 tennogen skins i want so far 🙃

[late vessel]

Does stuff that affects reload speed affects recharge delay/spd for weapon that doesn't have ammo?

[lofty garden]

Tennogen is platform locked, far as I’m aware. The only exception was account merge.

[pliant trench]

u kinda wrong there, when u do cross-save, ur tennogen skin in PC wont be show on others platform, i did w my ios tho

[vale prism]

what are some good secondaries for killing elite enemies like dmg attenuation, acolytes, bosses, demolishers, etc.
for context: gyre

[pliant trench]

yes

[lofty garden]

Lato Vandal Incarnon Riven with cold.

[vale prism]

thats next week isnt it

yeh it is

well

[lofty garden]

I have not looked recently. Riven is luck of the draw

[pearl parcel]

hey lovisa, there is amazing news

apparently flamers can hurt harvesters, this is shocking new news

[vale prism]

its in the same rotation as okina and paris

[pliant trench]

another crowbar broke

[vale prism]

which is in 8~ days

[pliant trench]

what are flamers? sec let me google

[vale prism]

im 900k endo in debt

[pearl parcel]

no, flamers can be used to strike down harvesters, because somehow a stream of hot liquid does more damage to a crab tank than a literal rocket launcher

[pearl parcel]

this is a harvester

[pliant trench]

helldiver uh

[pearl parcel]

and this is a flamer, it sets things on fire

[pliant trench]

didnt play the game since i dont have friend that commit to it

[pearl parcel]

i play the game

i will be yer friend

[vale prism]

iont think ill play again unless like

i have rlly good external reasons

[pearl parcel]

i mean, they added weapon customization, and they added a pyrophor grenade

[vale prism]

since i havnt played in so long, im so far behind in terms of the warbonds it will be actual hell

[pearl parcel]

you can deploy a tactical firework

[pliant trench]

well i already uninterested w that game, but i keep ur soul promise close by

[pliant trench]

one who can see trash is god tier - not this guy

[pearl parcel]

im gonna do a round with the arc thrower, the flamer, and pyrophor nades lmao

[vale prism]

i mean onos seems pgood at killing elite enemies but charging incarnon on it is annoying esp vs some factions

getting incarnon on infested makes me want to rope myself

[pliant trench]

same, reason i not take any incarnon when infested within the mission

[vale prism]

torid incarnon tho 😋

[pliant trench]

nah still pass, i just bring ocucor til lvl cap + glaive

[vale prism]

i am d1 glaive hater

i just dont like the gameplay loop

[pliant trench]

embrace the loop for meta

[vale prism]

id rather use contagion zaw

[pliant trench]

ngl the gameplay is just another looping farming til next content

[vale prism]

contagion is literally glaive but worse mechanically

[vale prism]

iont like throwing glaive

and having to like, deal with depth perception etc.

also not having to deal with self knockdown is nice
id rather get knocked down by enemies than myself

[pliant trench]

i deadass just bring aimbot if lazy is overtaken, mesa w fortifier

[vale prism]

although tbf id prolly just run a frame thats immune to knockdown

[fathom cipher]

i love both zaws and glaives :C

[vale prism]

id rather hack and slash

[pliant trench]

i rather sleep and depress on my bed rn

living is hard

[vale prism]

im planning on building gyre

am gonna try kuva sobek with full violet primary elec shards

[pliant trench]

gyre prime next year no?

[tender dragon]

Does anyone have a good Nuke Mirage Prime build?

[vale prism]

dawg im not waiting an entire year

even if i put like 8 forma into the frame

[pliant trench]

prism guard or sledge hand build? both nuke
unless it esclipse nuke u asking

[vale prism]

thats lightwork to farm out again

[tender dragon]

I was hoping for an eclipse nuke but I wouldn’t mind either

[pliant trench]

Weapon Nuke:
https://overframe.gg/build/191180/mirage-prime/total-malevolence-mirage-dual-augment-max-dps-weapon-platform-solo-steel-path/

Prism Guard:
https://overframe.gg/build/234415/mirage-prime/disco-ball-of-death-prism-guard-nuke-mirage/

ESO/Buff non-SP:
https://overframe.gg/build/204158/mirage-prime/roaring-explosions-mirage-eso-nuke-buff/

PSF is just optional QoL to cancel stagger/stun animation

10/10 w proper build incarnon wpn

[vale prism]

wait so if u run full tau primary elec shards its 45+75% per shard right

600% total

[pliant trench]

i not sure ur math is correct tho

[vale prism]

15x5=75

u get the additional from each shard right

this is the kind of thing the wiki should clarify :/

[vale prism]

is it 15x5 or 15x4

like do you get the 15% bonus if oyu only have a single violet slotted

[pliant trench]

+15% per shard × 5 shards = 75%

[vale prism]

yeh

[pliant trench]

Plus base 45%, so total is 120% Primary Electricity Damage

[vale prism]

so full would be 600% yea

[pliant trench]

if u put all 5 tau violet probably

[vale prism]

imean thats the plan

[pliant trench]

now why i felt dumb, u doing multiplicative

only said bonus additive

so 120%

[vale prism]

huh

wait so is it

75% additive 45% mult?

huhhhhhhhhhhhh

the way i read it

it doesent imply that

usually the game specifies when damage is added in a non-standard way

[pliant trench]

gotta bring chat gpt into this, i dont have the talent to proper explain

[vale prism]

yea thats what i assume

[pearl parcel]

git yer abominable intelligence outta here

[pliant trench]

naur chat gpt need this reasoning to grow, so it spare me when A.I take over

jk

[pearl parcel]

apparently my smoker just combusted

now we know, 425 is too high

[rocky token]

6 different antivirus mods and NOT THE ONE I NEED FOR MY GOD DAMN CODA

[fair flame]

I just now realized this mod all so increase the health your Warframe gets from the health orbs. I thought it meant it heals your pet for and extra 60hp on orb pick up.

[abstract wing]

I do this with cyte09 and it's bonkers damage

[vale prism]

planning on doing it with gyre

ngl im actually cooked

3rd warframe that wants full violet

[rocky token]

man how i wish THEY DIDNT ALL DROP FROM THE EXACT SAME PLACE SO I COULD TARGET FARM THEM

[vale prism]

just do antivirus bounties for daily standing

they give the most anyways

if its legacyte or exterminate u can do it pretty fast

[rocky token]

that's what im doing

[urban harness]

I have the most cursed chroma for legacyte

[vale prism]

to be fair someone gifted me the full antivirus bundle thing lmao

[rocky token]

currently on bounty number 21 and havent seen either of those

[abstract wing]

I've done 5 purple for electric ability str on her and it was pretty good

[vale prism]

iam build her primary buffer

gonna try kuva sobek with acid shells, it seems fun

herald of ash + herald of thunder

[abstract wing]

I need to try that with her new augment

heard it's really good with projectile melee + influence

[vale prism]

im planning on subsuming over her 1

probably shock trooper

even more electric dmg 😃

[pearl parcel]

hey bap, you play dnd

[abstract wing]

sounds fun

[vale prism]

im interested but im also like

averse to socializing

[pearl parcel]

hah yeah i feel that

you want to know the funniest idea

[fathom cipher]

i have my little group of friends and thats it lol

[rocky token]

im genuinely gonna crash out

[pearl parcel]

skeletal cleric with a black powder rifle, because screw you, you're getting rattled

[rocky token]

i swear to god if i get one of the 2 im missing AND ITS STILL NOT THE RIGHT ONE im punching something

[pearl parcel]

i have zoe, i havent talked to alex in about a year, and those are the only two people i've known for a while

i knew some girl named amber for a bit but thats the psychotic gremlin that stabbed me, not keen on talking to her

[vale prism]

i have my gf and 1 friend

[pearl parcel]

better than how im doing

[vale prism]

to be fair they're both online relationships, iont know anybody local besides family 😃

[pearl parcel]

i have my gf, i havent talked to my friend in like a year

i knew zoe in person but sadly she had to move, now she lives two states away

gonna make a visit to bring her hardtack sometime this summer

[fathom cipher]

pretty solid ngl

[subtle ruin]

Does the Tonkkat Blueprint also drop from the Galleons of Ghouls missions?

[vale prism]

they all should iirc ?

from the third week (this week)

[pearl parcel]

have you heard of pf2e

[subtle ruin]

Well guess I'll keep running the mission until I gegt it

[fair flame]

Soo if I did the math right it should be 660 HP from a single HP or from daguth if I uses restoring bond with 2 yellow tau shards that give 150% HP orb effectivenes

[daring parrot]

i thought that at first but i think its just the parts for some reason

yeah it seems like its just the components

[fathom cipher]

are we making dagath a health tank?

it would be interesting but doesnt she have her 3 and her augment as well? or are u doing something else with it

[fair flame]

Yes

[vale prism]

i made an energy tank build for gauss but like, it feels completly redundant to actually have quick thinking most of the time lol

[pearl parcel]

bap

[vale prism]

unless im just standing around doing nothing while getting swarmed lol

[vale prism]

hi

[subtle ruin]

Well guess I'll just farm the tonkkat parts and hope the bp goes into the shop

[fathom cipher]

lets see. who do i wanna try and make a zaw frame next

[pearl parcel]

have ye heard of pf2e

[vale prism]

psure they said its all getting put into normal ghoul loot tables or something

[vale prism]

im somewhat familiar with dnd but its so-so

[daring parrot]

:(

[vale prism]

after the 3 week event

[pearl parcel]

pf2e is a different system similar to dnd, it does away with advantage and disadvantage, instead just directly giving numerical bonuses

[daring parrot]

ooh mb

[vale prism]

go look for the initial announcement for the first week of the event

[pearl parcel]

you dont roll for health you just have so much starting health based off your race, classes can boost or detract from this, i honestly like it a bit better but i dont have a dm for it

[vale prism]

the extent of my familiarity with the actual gameplay mechanics is probably just bg3

[pearl parcel]

also you just get three actions to use as you please, movement, spellcasting? do whatever, but you only get 3

[vale prism]

ive more familiarity with the universe / lore

[fair flame]

I'm getting like between 660 HP and over 1,000 HP per orb

Not actually testing this game game I'm trying to figure out the math calculations

[vale prism]

can only think of one example off the top of my head of webnovels that used parts of dnd lore

abyssal road trip is peak tho fr

oh yea i read uhh

a lot of the forgotten realms novels

[rocky token]

i just transmuted an antivirus mod and it gave me one of the mods i was transmuting with

i hate this game

[vale prism]

rng

[azure willow]

Rngesus decided to do a funny

[daring parrot]

praise gesus

[pearl parcel]

i mostly played the game, i dont read much

[vale prism]

read abyssal road trip

its peak fr

its on royalroad

[fathom cipher]

all i do is read manga, manhwa, light novels, and webnovels 😭😭

[vale prism]

read abyssal road trip

wait wtf happened it used to be like

[fathom cipher]

i shall take u up on that recommendation

[vale prism]

first page when sorted by word count

sorry page count royalroad sucks *

what even is a page

[fathom cipher]

holy canolli thats a lot of reading

ive read longer tho 😈

[vale prism]

i swear to god it used to be first page on RR when sorted by page count 💢

[tender perch]

Yo wassup chat

It's me, number 1 Caliban fan here

[fathom cipher]

woah hey number 1 caliban fan

i should become the number one mirage fan

[vale prism]

minor psa that khora urushu's butt lights up when u heavy attack

[tender perch]

Are you? The number one Mirage fan?

[fathom cipher]

on my account at least and i seem to be the most out spoken about it

[tender perch]

That's the deluxe skin, right? BBW Khora?

[vale prism]

yeh

[tender perch]

Heh. Nice.

[vale prism]

how can i not notice

[tender perch]

Fr

[vale prism]

when its taking up what feelslike 50% of my screen

[tender perch]

Im a booty type of guy anyways

Wow, im surprised we can say that

[pearl parcel]

"why's the minimap take up half the screen, it aint mini anymore its just map"

honestly thats how playing ftd feels half the time

[vale prism]

i wish map overlay wasnt so shit in open world

[pearl parcel]

honestly the maps in this game are rather lackluster

[vale prism]

map overlay in missions is decent

[rocky token]

have they shown what the augments coming with isleweaver do? i didnt watch the devstream and the web only says what warframes they are for

[pearl parcel]

i dont like how it turns as you turn, makes it feel like navigating a labrynth on the return trip

[vale prism]

u can disable that

[pearl parcel]

oh hell i can?

im jsut a moron then, ignore me amigo

[vale prism]

yeh

khora can get like 200m of loot or enemy radar iirc

2x primed animal instict + wf mods

[tender perch]

Can you make a Venari build?

[vale prism]

u can use that 1.2x crit multi mod and it stacks

theres a few u cant use on venari tho

[tender perch]

I remember I almost mained Qorvex over Caliban

BbbbLEGH!

[pearl parcel]

hey bap, whats you're opinion on hardtack

[vale prism]

idk

[pearl parcel]

never had it?

[vale prism]

prolly not :p

[pearl parcel]

i can send a recipe if ye need one

[sudden tendon]

Qorvex😭

[tender perch]

I don't even think he's that bad. Just...clunky

[sudden tendon]

His laser beam is just so underwhelming

Doesnt help that radiation as a status sucks too

[pearl parcel]

do ye need a recipe

[tender perch]

Every laser beam ability in WF is underwhelming. DE is very scared of making them strong

[vale prism]

probably not

xd

[sudden tendon]

Thats true i have no clue why

[pearl parcel]

fair enough then

[tender perch]

Sol Gate and Crucible Blast are utter GARBAGE

[pearl parcel]

its not for everyone, i quite like it as a snack though

[tender perch]

Fusion Strike is the only good one and its just because it armor and shield strips

Not even for its damage

[tawdry lark]

Can I still catch up with nightwave reset next week? I'm on my last level to completion.

[pearl parcel]

honestly all of the abilities in the game are mediocre for damage unless its some giga mass nuke build

[tender perch]

You have like- 2 days left, buddy. Hurry up.

[vale prism]

does the game stop giving you recovered challenges after a point ? i dont think ive ever focused them to the point they ran out

[tender perch]

Nah, there are categories for damage abilities in the game. Too many categories to label em all as bad

[lofty garden]

I mean, if you kept up, yes, but if you haven't, there should be plenty in that well.

[tawdry lark]

I'm stuck on recovered challenges that needed to unlock in later content.

[vale prism]

rough

[tender perch]

Like Koumei 4 isn't particularly a nuke, but its damage is insane

[lofty garden]

Time to clear all that content!

[tender perch]

Hildryn 4, Ash 4, Khora 1, etc.

[vale prism]

yeh u should push and unlock all the main content imo

[lofty garden]

It's probably only around 10-20hrs.

[tender perch]

I really wish laser beams got buffed though. All of them. Sol Gate, Crucible Blast, and Fusion Strike.

[vale prism]

unless u sell stuff from vendors, after a point you kinda dont need to ever farm standing again

[tender perch]

Make em all nukes

[lofty garden]

Standing from Syndicates? I mean, Vosfor and relic packs alone make that worth it. The three open world factions are also good for relic packs.

[vale prism]

idk personally i dont like opening relics outside of ducats farming

so i dont consider that 🙃

[lofty garden]

It doesn't open the relics, it gives you relics.

[vale prism]

im not selling relics either

screw that 😃

[tender perch]

I do a lot of endurance with relics, so that's how I get all of my prime junk

[lofty garden]

It's a fast way to get new relics when they drop a new Prime Access.

[tender perch]

And boy do I have a LOT of junk

[vale prism]

i have more relics than i will probably ever open already

[vale prism]

thats the only reason id ever do it

[tawdry lark]

Weekly refreshes in 21h 58m, so I guess I can still catch up?

[vale prism]

and since you cant endlessly stockpile standing, itd really only ever be a consideration one every few months

[tender perch]

I probably have full prime sets of things I don't even know exist

[vale prism]

i have 1 prime part, because its worth more than 30p on trade

and hasnt sold yet

[tender perch]

points and laughs
Little poor homeless lady..

[lofty garden]

You get 200 vosfor for 30k syndicate standing.

[vale prism]

the only time ill ever target farm prime parts is when a new prime releases

[vale prism]

they all get turned into ducats

[tender perch]

Oh

Damn, how much ducats

[vale prism]

not much, i open relics when baro has stuff i want

[tender perch]

Oh

[vale prism]

one day ill farm 70k ducats for a year of mod booster

[tender perch]

You can stack them from Baroo?

The fact that you did the math, too. Lmao

[vale prism]

idk if gambaing with vosfor is a better or worse idea than opening relics for plat

id rather just buy r5 arcanes

the only arcanes i wouldnt buy r5 (the 1k+ ones) arent even available from vosfor anyways

then again maybe id consider buying them if i rlly wanted to complete a build

ive got hotshot at r3 and change from weekly eta and buying a few copies here and there

[tender perch]

It's not really gambling. It depends on what you're sacrificing

Like since I do a bunch of cascade, I have tons of bs relics that I can trade in for something more valuable like Energize

[vale prism]

its still rng

[tender perch]

If any of them ARE valuable, i just save it and reroll the rest

[tender perch]

Yeah, rng with trash

[vale prism]

idk too much effort for me

id rather sell endo

[tender perch]

You're literally recycling trash to get treasure

[lyric drum]

where to get comic?

[fathom cipher]

i just straight up dont like qorvex's kit ngl it aint for me

like boom. pillar woah

[pearl parcel]

yopu gotta find it in missions iirc

i think you can buy it off aoi or one of the others

[pseudo forge]

yeah just find the pickup in missions or bounty rewards

[pearl parcel]

oh its a bounty thing not a merchant thing

apologies, i dont even play the game anymore

[vale prism]

or ground spawn

[pearl parcel]

yeah that was the first hting bap

[pearl parcel]

this bit

[vale prism]

🙂

[pearl parcel]

hey bap i have a very important question

when you make mac n cheese do you make it soupy or clumpy

[vale prism]

i havnt had in a long time

can we make a petition to remove double doors

[pearl parcel]

when you did make it, soup or clump

[vale prism]

iont remember

[pearl parcel]

damn

[lyric drum]

this bounty drops

but i dont have rep lv 4

[devout burrow]

you can just go into 1999 missions and find them as collectables

[tender perch]

I think the pillars are cool. I like that his kit incorporates concrete as WELL as radiation

But eh- he's just okay

[fathom cipher]

yeah im not too big a fan of radiation ngl but its interesting

[tender perch]

I like the CONCEPT of a radiation/nuclear frame. But radiation as a status effects sucks

[lyric drum]

so just rng?

[fathom cipher]

yeah lol

[devout burrow]

the thing I really like about qorvex is his ability to have cool visuals that deal no damage

[vale prism]

orokin eye

[lyric drum]

what is that?

[tender perch]

You mean his walls, im guessing?

[vale prism]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Parallax

[pseudo forge]

is this about the 2 or the 4
2 has an augment that makes it decent

[devout burrow]

every ability in his kit that is supposed to deal dmg

[tender perch]

No its not

I get maybe his 2, but his 1 and 3 have zero correlation with doing damage

[peak moth]

Are we getting a dirigia prime with yareli?

[lyric drum]

hoo hell no

[pseudo forge]

no, kompressa and daikyu

[vale prism]

if ur missing the blueprints its like 10p for a set lol

[tender perch]

Most likely not. Diriga is a Grineer inspired sentenal

[vale prism]

pennant prime when

[peak moth]

Daikyu doesn't have a prime yet? I thought it did

[lyric drum]

naa, i just like my current landing craft

and i never liked using lc skills

[peak moth]

I saw someone say that but then mentioned another grineer primed sentinal

[vale prism]

ability is no longer linked to equipt landing craft

[vale prism]

orokin eye is probably one of the best ones

once you progress hex, cavia, and holdfasts its kinda useless tho

[tender perch]

There are none. All primed sentinals are tenno exclusives. Shade, Wyrm, Helios, Carrier, etc.

[pseudo forge]

helios is corpus origin

[tender perch]

But maybe, who knows. I definitely wouldn't mind a Diriga Prime, its my favorite

[peak moth]

Same

[fathom cipher]

diriga prime is my fav

[tender perch]

Then maybe they could do a Diriga Prime

[fathom cipher]

diriga i mean

[pseudo forge]

i was hoping for oxylus prime w/ yareli tbh

[peak moth]

Why oxylus?

[pseudo forge]

another fortuna-related thing, and i like oxylus
mostly use it for fishing though

[lyric drum]

do you mind reminding me where to check?

my skils?

[tender perch]

I completely forgot that Sentinel existed

[vale prism]

escape edit backrooms/orbiter

[tender perch]

They really made that mf a fillar companion