gameplay-discussion

[restive warren]

I don't feel a strong way or another anymore

[brave flare]

Remember when sentients were tanky?

[fair flame]

To be fair it's kinda easy to make any frame practical inortal with 3 mods 1 arcane

[restive warren]

[fair flame]

Yes. Bring back there HP back to tank standers.

They need to be the real threat they are supposed to be in the sol system

[lavish pebble]

They were only tanky because they were immune to status effects. Once they became vulnerable to them, then they became pushovers.

[brave flare]

I think the only thing that changed about them was that they became vulnerable to status effects

[fair flame]

Otherwise there kinda just pushover

[void wyvern]

is it a bug or a feature? (can't be scanned, neither pinged)

[brave flare]

A feature that is bugged

[rocky breach]

Make sentient adaptation be immunity ot just damage reduction

[restive warren]

I remember Paracesis riven dispo taking a dive during Scarlet spear and people proceed to complain. To be fair the timing was atrocious.

[brave flare]

Then the great nerf of limbo happened during scarlet spear

[restive warren]

I don't think I've ever seen people use Paracesis that hard prior to Scarlet

[rocky breach]

So you have to amp them to reset, or use different weapons

[fair flame]

I want sentents to have massive upfront damage reduction that is only removed by umbra howl or amp damage

[restive warren]

Para does too.

[brave flare]

Umbra scream does too

[tiny plaza]

Mask of The Revenant Question: If I build all 3 components at once and claim them upon completion before I get to the 2nd part of the quest... will Nakak just tell me to continue? or...

[restive warren]

The Paracesis is Ballas' signature weapon, introduced in Update 23.10 (2018-10-12). Also known as "The Sentient Slayer", the weapon can gain additional max ranks after polarization capping at rank 40, with the additional ranks applying a damage bonus to Sentients and removing their damage resistances.

[rocky breach]

Ain't nobody using para when you can just pew pew

[restive warren]

True

[lyric lotus]

Wukong never dies

[fair flame]

We have 4 ways to remove sentents resistances yet we don't even need to uses them as they are so pathetic now

[restive warren]

During Scarlet spear a lot of peeps used Para, then they nerfed dispo a bit ... Something like a week in.

It was atrocious timing is all I'm saying

[brave flare]

We have effectively bullied everything in the solar system. Now lets go to Tau so we can bully the sentients some more

[restive warren]

We had peeps using amps too, but I saw people using Paracesis as well

[brave flare]

Wait I still haven't made paracesis

[lyric lotus]

Dante wanna have a talk..

[fair flame]

Know what that's it. Steals @restive warren chicken nuggets you can get these back once I get my spider frame.

[restive warren]

Chiken nuggies 😭

[brave flare]

Why tho?

[restive warren]

Spooderframe is so perdy

[lyric lotus]

who gonna sing spooderman song when we get the spider frame in squad?

[fair flame]

I'm upset about sentents being nerfed so I want her comfort food

[restive warren]

I would've preferred Drider shaped but oh well

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-pipe-spongebob-gif-11773971158923203017

[brave flare]

You stole her only food, now she's gonna starve

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/dig-grave-scrubs-digging-your-gif-13279740

[fair flame]

I'll give her buffalo nuggets as a trade

[restive warren]

That sound like a fair trade

[brave flare]

Indeed

[fair flame]

Speaking of buffalo. Ever eat a juice thick buffalo burger before.

[lyric lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-taco-smile-gif-15840669

[restive warren]

[fair flame]

I'm board out of my mind right now as I'm in a meeting scribe 9am it's now 3pm...

[fair flame]

They might be a bit more pricey but they are worth it once a year

Well provided you can actually get the meat for a reasonable price

How it sometimes feels cooking up a new build in Warframe when you have not even used the weapon before.

[cerulean trout]

GD, Any Admins here? I tried logging into Soulframe, says IP blocked since Yesterday.

[restive warren]

You might wanna try on the Soulframe discord.

[fair flame]

Go to soul frame discord for your own safety

[cerulean trout]

I did. No response.

[fair flame]

Did you wait the 1-3 business days for the response

[cerulean trout]

Been a day already, highly unprofessional at this point. Also all other sites will say check back in 30 mins tops

[restive warren]

I mean there's no guarantee a dev will see your message on the discord.

It might get swarmed by other people talking

[mellow turret]

"highly unprofessional" lol

[fair flame]

Unprofessional?! Bud it's a game that's not even in alpha and your not usesing an official report message sight?!

[restive warren]

It's a game, it's not like your house caught on fire.

And the fireman refused to do their job because they hate you.

Also if you reports bugs on discord vs the actual way to report bug/issue... That's mostly on you unfortunately.

Like with Warframe you report bug on forum or if it's account related you use Zendesk or whatever it's called now (I think it's still Zendesk)

If you ask on discord, the people most likely to get back at you will be people of the community that aren't from the dev team.

Fellow gamers might find a work around your issue, well maybe not in your case.

[cerulean trout]

Exactly my point, Thanks, cause the official support is no help.

[restive warren]

You think you're the only person needing help?

[mellow turret]

it generally takes a week or two for them to get back to you. i think you will survive with no soulframe for two weeks

[restive warren]

They need to fix whoever did ticket first before getting to you.

[lofty garden]

Don’t think they have a zendesk instance yet for soulframe

[restive warren]

Also we don't know how many people look at ticket

[fair flame]

Did you even wait for the official support to respond?! It can take anywhere between 1-14 days to respond to bug reports

[cerulean trout]

And? Does that make it any better?

[restive warren]

...

[mellow turret]

yeah man you're absolutely right. i think you need to take legal action

[restive warren]

[mellow turret]

game support didn't get back to you in 24 hours? time for the nuclear option

[fair flame]

Legally Acton vs common sense.

[lofty garden]

could maybe try the warframe zendesk instance

[restive warren]

OP yells at the cashier when he can't get his coffee within the next 2mins of entering a coffee shop because there's a line of other customers in front of him.

[mellow turret]

hold on did they not even go through zendesk. this is crazy

[cerulean trout]

I did already

So on an official Discord there is no Admins available?

[restive warren]

🙃

[fair flame]

Admins only monitor the Discord they don't actually have power of the game development at all.

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-clown-creepy-smile-surprise-terrifying-gif-14577849

[fair flame]

who else feels like there talking to a less than 18 year old

[restive warren]

-Squeeze my red clown nose a couple time-

[cerulean trout]

And the rest with snarky comments, I didn't come here for that. Bout, Lawsuit. Your mum should've enacted her body her choice laws... Good day.

[mellow turret]

well, a lot of kids do play wf, and a name like ReaperX is kind of a teenager name

[fair flame]

It's definitely one of this look at me I want attention names now that I read it a second time

[cerulean trout]

u sure u spelt urs correct?

[fair flame]

Man i thought I escaped those names when leaving xbox

[cerulean trout]

you have he/ him pronouns lmao

[restive warren]

Well you came here angry, said it was unprofessional while you're having some expectation to have someone at your beckncall like a personal servant as if there isn't other people that reported issue.

[mellow turret]

this is a great message

[lofty garden]

No, they do account support via zendesk and e-mail replies to the zendesk ticket. Nothing via discord admins.

[fair flame]

With the way your acting I can't blame them for wanting to ip ban you from the game.

[cerulean trout]

Yeah but y'all couldve answered with out giving me shit

[cerulean trout]

I just have an issue, didnt say shit to yall

dont start nun there wont be nun

[lofty garden]

I would just wait a few days and check zendesk again, and also double check your spam/junk folders.

[restive warren]

Worth a shot

[cerulean trout]

Thank you, this is a response

[tired nova]

You could've waited longer lol, a business day is usally like 3-4 days

Sides, you weren't giving any neutral responses either

[cerulean trout]

I got keys man, just excited to play is all.

[lofty garden]

I am sure a substantial chunk of soulframe staff was at PAX East as they had press demos in the Westin.

[restive warren]

I read angry more than excited. But I guess being excited and not being able to play would make someone angry.

[tired nova]

It's a fair response but you should have better outward control of your emotions

[restive warren]

Yeah, it doesn't make people wanna question you more in hope to help you with your problem when you're being... Ah somewhat unreasonable on how you... Express yourself? Idk better wording

[cerulean trout]

As I said dont start nun, there wont be nun. I didnt start, but I can end .

[restive warren]

I mean

Sure why not

[fair flame]

I mean I took your reaction as hostile for immediately pointing the blame on unprofessional support help after only a single day with no response that's not on the official bug report sight.

[restive warren]

I find it wild to expect tickets to be resolved within 24h honestly.

[fair flame]

I treated it immediately like how one would treat a Karen i want to speak to the manager

[restive warren]

I'm sure certain game do that, I'm not saying it doesn't exist.

[cerulean trout]

I said, normally sites would stop the logins for a 30 mins. Like its not and indie company new to this

[fair flame]

Can't expect a team of mostly gameplay devs and little support staff I think 3 to respond to thousands of tickets anday

[restive warren]

Huh

[cerulean trout]

any site that has too much logins would tell you come back in 30 tops

[restive warren]

Oh that issue.

[cerulean trout]

going on the 2nd day now?

[restive warren]

Yeah I ran into it when I forgot my password.

I tried logging in too many times tho.

So it probably flagged me as weird behavior.

[tired nova]

As far as I know soulframe doesn't run on the steam deck so idk what anyone of this is about

[cerulean trout]

well this could explain it

[restive warren]

I think they got momentarily banned from Soulframe

Oh

[high sparrow]

Hello I'm new the sever

[tired nova]

I do remember when warframe stopped working on the steam deck though, took them give or take 4 or 5 days to fix?

A lot.of being a game dev is "hurry up and wait"

[cerulean trout]

see... normal conversation. no unnecessary bs

thanks

[tired nova]

Sure buddy sure...

[restive warren]

I mean to be fair you didn't mention Steam deck

If your issue was with steam deck that was.

[tired nova]

My point is, sh-crap takes time in being a game dev

[cerulean trout]

No i just mean that, its set up differently, it isnt downloaded directly on steam atm. im on PC

[tired nova]

Tickets, getting authorisation to send a build, making the code, not to mention finding the problem itself

It all takes a while

Bide your time kid, I'm sure they'll get to you in a bit

[tired nova]

Steam deck is a PC, it's just portable, and weaker...and is Damm near impossible to use 3rd party software casue it's Linux

[lofty garden]

SoulFrame is only via their launcher at this time.

[tired nova]

AND NOTHING IS BUILT FOR LINUX!

[median topaz]

if you can log in to the website it's probably the executable that's the problem

I'd try DLing and logging into Soulframe on a PC

[tired nova]

Right, good thing I'm not worried about missing out then

[narrow onyx]

You said something?

[tired nova]

Cause...I mean it looks cool ig but I've got so many other games I've yet to play

Doom eternal, wolfenstein, monster hunter world

[restive warren]

I guess should've asked if they tried logging on the website

[acoustic mountain]

Is there prex cards for every warframe or one certain ones at the moment? A friend showed me where some are but now I'm lost where the rest are

[restive warren]

Only some warframes have prex cards.

Not all

[median topaz]

Every Warframe since Xaku has one

DE went back and added some others randomly

[lofty garden]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Decorations/Orbiter_Decorations#Prex

[restive warren]

I wasn't sure if I was supposed to post because it says where the prex card is hidden

Could be considered a spoiler (Depending on whom you ask)

[tired nova]

I only have a few prexcards, notable the ember heirloom one

[restive warren]

I don't, but some people lost their mind at me over it.

[acoustic mountain]

Ive found one in my clan, one in the drifter camp, and 5 in the saturn relay so I thought I'd come here and ask

[tired nova]

I got two actually, so I can show off both sides

[acoustic mountain]

There's an heirloom one for Ember?

[tired nova]

Mhm

Speaking of heirlooms...God I hope this doesn't become a trend for heirloom skins but like Valk heirloom is just sex appeal the skin

[restive warren]

I mean

Seems to be recurring shirtless and/or underwear moment

[tired nova]

Fair fair

[acoustic mountain]

I will say Valk's is like that but at the same time the galaxy skin is cool

[tired nova]

At least ember could pass it off as just being thematically accurate

[restive warren]

Hyped to see if the Heirloom skin will be mix/matchable with tennogen skin or I'll have to endure the heirloom helmet

[restive warren]

I see what you did there

So far it's super easy to mix deluxe helm from Ember with the heirloom body

I think I did same too momentarily with Mag

Same with Frost too actually

[tired nova]

Valk literally has a THONG

I'm no prude but dammit it doesn't even mix with her other skin themes

I guess they're at least being inclusive with the men also getting it

[restive warren]

Sevagoth and Khora heirloom when

[tired nova]

A while

[restive warren]

I know

It's all I want for Christmas

Since I'm getting Valk for birthday

[tired nova]

Iirc, heirloom is mostly a way for prime frames who have really bad looks to get a second chance

[restive warren]

Oberon then

[tired nova]

But doubt either will get one, for a while

[restive warren]

Oberon needs large amount of jeebus crisp in cup

His prime detail makes me angry

[tired nova]

I'm thinking excal, nyx, maybe chroma might be next ones in ljne

[marsh linden]

Looks at styanax deluxe
Can you imagine when they get to his heirloom?!

[median topaz]

Still better than First Descendent

[tired nova]

I do wish they were more then once a year

[restive warren]

"Swimsuit except it's underwear"

[median topaz]

the bar is underground

[restive warren]

😩

[opaque oar]

what primary has the biggest single shot damage? (primes prefered, i like the asthetic)

[median topaz]

Artemis Bow Prime

[tired nova]

Uhm...a lot?

[restive warren]

Nipple tassets for everyone?

[tired nova]

That's like asking wjat frame does the most damage

[tired halo]

If you had to recommend me a frame + weapon for the easiest time farming disruption missions for axi relics (preferably prime/kuva/... since I don't want to invest in a nornal frame or weapon)
Which frame + weapon specifically would that be

[opaque oar]

considering im not using ivara........... LMFAO

[median topaz]

Not exaggerating, Ivara's exalted is the single strongest weapon in the game

[marsh linden]

Thing is heirlooms seem to be trending towards being community made designs that DE just buys so.... it's the community's doing this time around

[median topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/ahs-asylum-nun-insane-horror-gif-15078938

[pure gulch]

they said heirlooms now are pretty much just community made

[opaque oar]

fair, im using a glaive epitaph combo so i just want an option that can delete a pesky tank every now and then

[marsh linden]

Yup

[pure gulch]

literally in the devstream

[restive warren]

🤫

[tired nova]

They better do my boy excal some justice and buy out this skin someone made

[marsh linden]

I didnt say all because we have like 4 in game and 2 more revealed ? 3 of those werent community made so i cant say "most heirlooms are community made" yet

[restive warren]

I somehow don't like the Excal that much :(

The helmet

What's with me and helmets

[marsh linden]

I think that helmet is a bit too styanax for excal

[restive warren]

It's Mass effect/Dragon age issue all over again

[tired nova]

I'd at least like a straight sword, we have a warframe named after probably the most famous European sword ever...and they don't have a single instance of a European style sword

[restive warren]

I think it's straight, it's just the energy from the exalted sword

[marsh linden]

Galatine and frost deluxe's sword skin?

[restive warren]

Gram straight too

[tired nova]

I get warfrmae in general has a lot of Japanese influence but still

[restive warren]

All things considered

[tired nova]

And I mean Excaliburs exalted, not just in the game

[late vessel]

Not European enough give us Zweihander skin

[tired nova]

I'd love one

[marsh linden]

I wouldnt say excal's default sword looks japanese

[inner wyvern]

is there a flamberge-like?

[tired nova]

I really hope this isn't the end of 1999 esthetic

[median topaz]

It's not

[marsh linden]

Like wavy? Dont think so, maybe some tennogen skin but i dont look at those often

[tired nova]

As much as i love the void esthetic, which is what it seems we're going into, I want more "real world" weapons

[inner wyvern]

@marsh linden yeah, a wavy heavy blade with a decently wide hilt

[unique umbra]

minigun

[tired nova]

YES!

DE GIVE ME A PROPER MINIGUN YOU COWARDS!

[late vessel]

We got straight up normal guns for a skin a realistic melee skins would be nice

[tired nova]

Side note, I think frames with a signature archgun should be allowed to equip it as a primary, at the cost of the secondary slot

Maybe rhino too, just cause it feels right

[tired nova]

We have the protokol skin for straight swords

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-drg-gunner-minigun-loop-gif-14685523104209586530

[marsh linden]

Cant wait for rogue core, been missing playing drg with friends but they like moving to "the new thing" a lot

[fair flame]

They move from the blessed grounds of drg and Warframe where the game is fully free to play free to unlock.

Only reason I can think of is a temp ban as to like secure your account as they could see it as a security breach on your account

[junior trench]

Can someone pls tell me what I’m doing wrong

[median topaz]

Catching a ban is pretty hard. Basically don't rip people off in game, trade for real money, or do a creditcard chargeback

[fair flame]

Warframes slots not loadout slots

[tired nova]

This also might help players actually bother with archguns more often since they'll go up, since they're easier to use

[fair flame]

Go to menu, equipment, inventory, Warframe tab.

[modern musk]

but i think its ok trade by platinume not nesscarry a real money

[tired nova]

Yeah

[late vessel]

Don't say certain things in the chat (maybe old stuff but saying Nezha is a ______ or skanna + godzilla used to ban people)

[tired nova]

Don't go like "Hey I'll venmo you a 20 if you give me lavos prime and all his weapons" and you're good

[unique umbra]

i dont get the skana one

[late vessel]

Combine it in a way to spell the faction of german charlie Chaplin
Actually is it allowed in the discord cuz otherwise I'll just say the full thing

[modern musk]

iam just asking here i dont mean making trouble

[unique umbra]

idk but dm me it im too stupid to figure out what ur talking about

[late vessel]

I mean the poeple that said that didn't want trouble they just get pranked by other people and the auto bot detection

[tired nova]

You mean nazi?

[unique umbra]

they done got optimus

[modern musk]

thanks buddy

[junior trench]

ye ty I sent the clip to a friend and we figured it out

[late vessel]

Oh so you can say it that makes it easier

[tired nova]

Yea

In the lore channel people called new loka space nazis all the time when they're brought up...cause...well I mean they are

[viscid saddle]

Will isleweaver have a quest too or is it just a node?

[tired nova]

I imagine a small one like jade had

[viscid saddle]

Hopefully not as short as the lotus eater tho

[late vessel]

It said major update so maybe something longer

[tired nova]

Idk what they were thinking with that one

Least they could've given us...idk a new weapon to play with?

[leaden obsidian]

Any clue when it’s droppin?

[viscid saddle]

Can we replay it already or will it never become replayable

[viscid saddle]

June

[late vessel]

June

[leaden obsidian]

Ah

[tired halo]

Guys any weapon recommendations for killing disruption targets fast?

(Preferably weapons that are prime/kuva/tenet because I'm weird like that and don't want to invest in normal weapons that will get better variants)

[fair flame]

What would be a cursed jade augment mod name.

[marsh linden]

Doubt there will be a quest
They said something to the effect of "as soon as you finish 1999 you will be able to see the node"

[tired nova]

My bet is a simple inbox message

Like citrine

[fair flame]

I had forgotten about they fact ordis says that

[tired nova]

I really wish they let umbra do.kore in the story

[late vessel]

How the heck did Helminth walk around

[fair flame]

Broo they missed a huge opportunity to force us to use umbra in the new war

[tired nova]

Like...lemme be on the other side of a survival mission, let umbra make the distraction as I go to find stuff in op form

[median topaz]

they probably won't do Umbra content ever again

[tired nova]

Better yet 1999, we're forced into excal anywau

[median topaz]

Because the first thing people do after Sacrifice is stop using him

[median topaz]

that's because we copied Arthur and so they could do the cool 1v1 scene

[tired nova]

I still use him for all the story quests

[median topaz]

Technically your 1999 arsenal is Albrecht making a copy of your main arsenal

[tired nova]

We could with umbra too! Hell lemme tag team him

[fair flame]

I intentionally make he a mid build frame so I can uses the new story content with now complete blowing it over like jts nothing so I can enjoy the crafted content they made us

[tired nova]

Na i min maxed him

Paracesis heavy one shot

Grimore and nataruk

[fair flame]

Your telling me a 1500 armor hp and shield frame is bad lol.

[tired nova]

Yes

His passive suuuuuuuuuuucks

[fair flame]

Made him to me boring on purpose so I can play the new content with out just finish the quest in 10 minutes

That and I'm basically have a cheat mode with his sword

[tired nova]

You use skiajati?

[fair flame]

I use skana prime lato prime and braton prime

[tired nova]

Only use I've found is on ash

But like...smoke screen is better anyway

Maybe inaros?

[fair flame]

I only used basic kit Excalibur umbra with basie prime starter weapon's for any new quest content

[tall nimbus]

umbra only served as an excuse for me to get rid of excal for another slot early on… i like that they changed an ability but it would have been cool if they did more with the kit

[tired nova]

I mean half.of the reason they made umbra in the first place is to give non founders an "excal prime"

[fair flame]

Sad how much a cool idea umbra was to not include in in mandatory story quests afterwords besides a mention in jade shadows

[median topaz]

lemme be real, their options are to force Umbra or not to use him at all

And between the two, not using him at all is far preferable

[marsh linden]

Writing ins for every warframe gimmick possible would be a lot of work lol

[fair flame]

I'd rather have the written stuff for umbra in main story quests as the dynamic of having a self controlled frame out side of are control like the hex is super cool

[median topaz]

I mean Stalker is right there

[fair flame]

As it allows them to do stuff as we do stuff as operator

[median topaz]

Anything in a quest that you might write for Umbra could be used to introduce a new character

Like, NPC Tenno

with their own Warframes and backstories and feats

[fair flame]

It's a triple sided sword

All sides all good lines

[median topaz]

Pft, that's a perfect way of phrasing it

[marsh linden]

Except for the writers trying to keep up lol

[late vessel]

Dread or Paris Prime for incarnon?

[fair flame]

Paris is fun because of it's augment dread is fun because of it's augment

[late vessel]

Is the augment limited stuff?

[fair flame]

Paris is not dread was last night season

Dread gives inviability and wild crit damage

Paris is haha I shot you have 3 blast procs = boom

[late vessel]

Paris it is
Status chance with a bow tho?

[fair flame]

The augment makes it a status crit hybrid

The augment adds 90% status chance and heal for 300hp each 3 stats procs applied from it

The 2 weapon augments

[late vessel]

Goofy ass name
Every 3 status effect on enemies or on the weapon or what here?

[median topaz]

on enemies

[fair flame]

When ever you inflict 3 status procs from the bow shots.

Doesn't have the be the same target or same shot

[late vessel]

Oh just the healing part thought it's about the status chance and got really excited

[fair flame]

My setup allows my Paris prime to reach red crits with 200% status

I have it modded for blast so that redcrit blast proc so it has some aor elements

[civic hinge]

Can I make this any better?

[median topaz]

take bladed rounds off

replace it with... I dunno, the galvanized status chance mod

[thorn sphinx]

is this a bulky variant?

[leaden obsidian]

Galv aptitude

[tired halo]

What's the best incarnon out of the ones this week?
Zylok, Sibear, Dread, Despair, Hate

[thorn sphinx]

hate #1
dread,despair #2
zylok #3
sibear #100

[tired halo]

Ty

[neon goblet]

i'm not getting the little yellow ball of focus anymore, why is that?

[pseudo forge]

i think they only spawn if you have focus lenses installed on your equipment?
so you might not have any lenses active

[tired halo]

Which frames and/or weapons would you recommend for void cascade farms for arcanes
I don't play many frames so assume no preference

[late vessel]

Gauss
Anyone with high mobility cuz the damn thing is so far off from each other

[tired halo]

Noted

[lyric drum]

Guys, where can i talk to ordis for the " Can be traded to Ordis in the Drifter's Camp for the blueprints for Jade"

[pseudo forge]

drifter's camp, unlocked after new war, he's out to the left of the main area outside orbiter

[lyric drum]

dont see him here

[pseudo forge]

to the left of that area, by the root fence

[lyric drum]

hoo wait, found it

small little feelow hiding

done with jade grind

is she good?

[pseudo forge]

yeah, fun too

[quasi sleet]

I see the stalker watching ya there.

[lyric drum]

||Soon i will become his wife||

[quasi sleet]

Jade's fun, enjoy her powers. I'm mid grind for her myself, just finished Citrine's grind.

[lyric drum]

should i have marked spoiler?

[daring parrot]

who's that in the background of this screenshot

[lyric drum]

||my future husband||

||that is carrying our child||

[west terrace]

i didnt know he was there until i watched that screenshot

[quasi sleet]

He only appears occasionally

[lyric drum]

i only noticed until he pointed out

[daring parrot]

he shows up every time you spend currency at ordis

[west terrace]

thats why he isnt in my game

[daring parrot]

i put neon wings behind him lol. i was able to bypass the barrier

[empty scroll]

Tbh of the two I like this mod better

[timid goblet]

Defenitely the first

So

I made this build with several overlapping damage reductions to survive when valkyr rework drops and its still not enough

Nearly 2k armor baseline before buffs at 86.6% danage reduction plus adaptation plus eclipse 75% plus quick thinking just to let the character survive even if i were to "die" and the energy still drain really quickly with quick thinking even with all the stacking danage reductions..armor just doesn't work very good at all and health tanking just feels bad..this isn't even high level its just level 125 heavy steel path gunners but its just underperforming idk man....this change bring nothing good like..I already crot for a billion...she doesn't need damage...and currently ..health tanking is ....garbage...even with extremes like this you can see how bad it is

Ping me if you have any thoughts on this because i can see this flop like a fish at elite archimedea for example vs levels 500

This gonna be so not fun

[empty scroll]

I could be wrong but I think new Valkyr will still be FINE for stuff like EDA/ETA but anything past that could be a problem for her

[pseudo forge]

her health and armor are being increased by a ton w/ the rework anyway
its too early to be so worried about this

[empty scroll]

The thing is we already know how health and armor tanking scales into higher levels. Poorly, for the most part

Like once you get into 4x digits it quickly becomes less and less viable

[quasi sleet]

Question: My sister of parvos has a name I like, but I don't exactly want to keep her cuz i want hound pieces... but i also don't want her gun (30% rad Diplos). I'm at a real impasse with her

[pseudo forge]

convert for the name imo
gun doesn't matter because you can sell it if you don't want it
n hound pieces aren't super hard to come by

[quasi sleet]

I'll finish with her final murmur then convert her, thn.

[tired nova]

Ugh, why did they make ripper wail affect melee doughty?

In a mission with a temple and I have to make sure to stay away from them so.i can keep my damage up

[pearl parcel]

like the left, because his hips move from up there

[lost storm]

Should I use Orokin Catalyst on Corinth?

[pearl parcel]

do you like the corinth?

[pearl parcel]

entirely related question, what mr are you

[lost storm]

MR 11

[lost storm]

Yeah

[pearl parcel]

do you like the corinth

ok then use it, and at mr 14 grab a prime corinth

[lost storm]

Is it advisable to use an orokin catalyst on the corinth? Is it worth it since Orokin Catalysts are hard to come by?

[pearl parcel]

they really aint, but i'd say yeah, corinth is a decent weapon for an mr11

[lost storm]

That's what I needed to hear. Thanks!

[pearl parcel]

and you odnt need to keep pinging me

im right here

[lost storm]

Ah ok, sorry, I'm just used to doing that in messenger

[restive warren]

To click an extra button before hitting send or it's different on phone?

On my screen it's ant sized and 1/3 the time if chat is active someone else end up getting a reply to

[pearl parcel]

hey pix, i have a question

[lofty garden]

Catalysts and Reactors are not hard to come by

[pseudo forge]

worse on phone, hold on message and tap a button in the big menu that overlays

[restive warren]

[pearl parcel]

piiiiiiix

[raven silo]

Warframe want me to buy plat so bad

[obsidian mountain]

Ok.

[sweet maple]

thats new to me

of all my time playing i've never gotten this

[fathom cipher]

thats for console. console gets bonus plat, pc gets plat discount. and thats the highest u can get for console so its pretty dang rare

[sweet maple]

ah ok

[fair flame]

More plat for same cash or Sam's plat for less cash. Wonder what's mathematically better for cash

[tired halo]

Which frames are META in elite deep archimedea?

[pearl parcel]

whichever you enjoy, stop optimizing the fun out of it all

[hollow sparrow]

What an unreasonable response to a perfectly innocent question.

[pearl parcel]

meta doesnt matter, just enjoy the game

[hollow sparrow]

Thats correct.

However, people may just want the best for it.

[pearl parcel]

vauban is a super fun and useful frame, his orbital barrage thing scales with enemy health

[hollow sparrow]

And I think that's fine.

Or what many consider to be "the best"

[pearl parcel]

plus his shields scale with however many people are in his bastille

[hollow sparrow]

It's a subjective opinion, but I think telling others to stop optimizing the fun out of it is a bad take.

[hollow sparrow]

What.

[pearl parcel]

or is it armor

[tired halo]

I've heard people mention revenant and dante but wondering what you think or if there are others

You mention vauban so I'll keep that in mind if that was an honest answer

[hollow sparrow]

I never knew that about bastille.

[fathom cipher]

a good reliable frame for elite dark archimedia is yeah dante and rev. dante especially id say

[hollow sparrow]

I always thought it was funny-hehe keep them from moving.

[pearl parcel]

something about his survivability scales with his bastilles, its shield or armor

the more people in your bastille the more armor you get i think

[hollow sparrow]

It's armor. For sure.

[pearl parcel]

it actually says something in the tooltip

[hollow sparrow]

Armor strip and gain while you're within the field. And 10s outside of it.

[fathom cipher]

id say citrine and harrow as well is pretty good for deep archimedia

[hollow sparrow]

I don't play vauban enough to really have looked that deep into the ability, but I don't remember it always doing this.

Granted, I didn't look hyper in depth when vauban got reworked.

[tired halo]

Strong frames lower the requirement to complete something that gives good rewards

[pearl parcel]

whats the point of good rewards without fun getting them

and you dont need to ping me, im right here

[hollow sparrow]

Strong frames can be considered fun.

I think it's very subjective though.

[tired halo]

The point is that they are used to invest into a frame that you like faster

[fathom cipher]

sometimes people wanna just get stuff over with if they dont find the content too fun or yeah strong setups can be fun

[tired halo]

Also strong frames are fun as well

[fathom cipher]

i like playing pretty strong setups

i play more for fashion tho icl

[hollow sparrow]

While the idea of trivializing gameplay can be a turn off to many, some players just want to play the game. And that's fine.

Generally.

[fathom cipher]

just play however u want tbf

whatever floats ur boat

[hollow sparrow]

I realize my sentence can turn into a whole topic, unfortunately. On what is considered gameplay at that point of you trivialize it, and challenge involved. So better to leave it at that.

[fathom cipher]

for eda id say dante, rev, harrow, citrine is prolly nice frames to take

harrow lacks a little on defense tho but his self sustain and support is top tier fr

[gleaming palm]

What are some funky frames for Camisado? Like. I knew about caliban and inaros. But I was surprised about its effectiveness

[tired halo]

Why harrow? Could you explain? I don't really know much about him. What makes him that good

I understant the dante and revenant tho, you just don't die

[fathom cipher]

ngl i havent seen a lot of stuff with camisado other than those few BUT i like seeing combinations with inaros subsume on other frames then using camisado there

[pearl parcel]

maybe revenant? i dont know if conquered enemies count as summons though

[fathom cipher]

he can create infinite energy for the team, give u extreme damage buffs, has really really good survivability, and buffs the squads fire rate and other things. hes really reliable

[tired halo]

I never knew he had any survivability :P

Ok ty, good to know

[fathom cipher]

his 1, condemn give u shields from the enemies u use it on. its also his subsume and its really good crowd control too

and his 4 gives u a lot of invuln frames

[tired halo]

I see

[pseudo forge]

harrow also provides big crits for the team
but yeah mostly the energy on kill buff

[gleaming palm]

Ahh that's unfortunate 😭

I only learned about Dante recently when learning his books and birds count as summons

And caliban summons feel... Bad

[fathom cipher]

oh actually?

i didnt know the birds counted

harrow energy buff is so hilariously strong. u can never run out of energy on him as long as u have the ability up lol

[gleaming palm]

I'm like... 50% positive on that. The books count which was the weird part to me

Idk. I really hope DE keeps giving us summon support. I think there's characters...

[fathom cipher]

i dont even use dante enough to experiment 😩

[gleaming palm]

WAIT WHAT ABOUT NIDUS?

[fathom cipher]

no the maggots dont count

unfortunately 😭

[tired halo]

So I guess it would be a good idea to have revenant and a harrow built (and use harrow instead of revenant to just help the team when your weapons are all garbage)

[gleaming palm]

FUDGE😭

[fathom cipher]

harrow is the greediest support frame. he is one of the best solo frames for all content as well but on the other hand he does actually provide support too 😭

id say having a dante is nice as well for overguard generation

[tired halo]

I see

[pseudo forge]

the big downside with harrow is that you, as harrow, need to be getting kills to be using your kit to its fullest
and your team can very easily prevent you from doing so

[fathom cipher]

true, but if u can get maybe 10 kills every now and then id say ur fine

[tired halo]

Random thought, what about frost? Also gives overguard

How does he fare in comparison

[fathom cipher]

ooh not sure abt him. i havent used him yet at all 😭

[tired halo]

Alright

[tired halo]

If you sell an assigned weapon for EDA, does the weapon change? Or are you then just stuck with being able to choose 2 weapons

[lament walrus]

Entering every mission as 'Unarmed" and nothing I do will change it

I can't play any missions. Northing I do will let me have actual weapons.

[placid turtle]

No melee?

You might just not have guns equipped

Or maybe you have a quest active and that's triggering the Unarmed thing

Or maybe your Warframe got kidnapped by the Zanuka?

[lament walrus]

All equppied in arsenal, nothing equipped in mission.

[pseudo forge]

changing the available pool in any way should reroll it yeah

[tender perch]

Good. I need a damn break, you lazy bum

[twilit summit]

What's the best amp for hydrolysts? I see people one shot them after shields get down

[tender perch]

147 amp with Madurai, I believe.

That's how they one-shot

[twilit summit]

Ok. So I need madurai that's my missing ingredient. I think

[sudden tendon]

amp arcanes help too

namely eternal eradicate and eternal onslaught

[tender perch]

Oh yeah, arcanes. I forgot.

[sudden tendon]

i think just madurai 1 is enough but just in case lol

[fathom cipher]

i thought for any of the eidolon thingies it was like a 177 or smthn

but amp arcanes are most important ye

[lost storm]

Is the Ignis Wraith a good weapon? Is it worth it to use an Orokin Catalyst on it? Is it MR fodder?

[pearl parcel]

its pretty good

i personally prefer stuff like The Throngler though

[sand oracle]

My buddy use it alot and says he likes it

[fervent moth]

Pretty bad weapon in the grand scheme of things, mostly used as a trash clearer due to its unimpressive base damage and wide range

[lost storm]

I'm currently MR 11, can you recommend a good horde clearer? My current main primary is a sniper rifle that doesn't do good with hordes...

[fervent moth]

Phantasma

[lost storm]

Also preparing for The New War quest

[pearl parcel]

fun fact, you no longer need to own a necramech

[lost storm]

Is it worth using Orokin Catalyst on it? I only have three

[fathom cipher]

maybe if u grab the prime

[fair flame]

Spaghetti prime

[timid goblet]

Dude armor value caps at 3k im at 2k already meaning 90% damage reduction at 3k which means I'll have roughly 8k armor when the update drops and it won't mean a thing I need 30k armor to get to 99% danage reduction...then she will be fine...and that 8k i me toned is with the new ar.or values and 200% strengh while in hysteria with the trippled effect warcry

The numbers don't support anything....hp goes up by like...20%....garbage....armor stays practically the same danage reductio-nwise because thers massive exponenti diminishing results so that 8k armor won't mean ANYTHING and she will just die ill go from 1200 hp to 1400 hp...good job...I'll still die like a dog

[fathom cipher]

imma go rebuild my wisp a bit. i should try and make smthn fun with crepuscular or whatever that thing is called

[timid goblet]

So with my build she's already 2k armor before warcry which is 86.6% damage reduction

To get that extra 5.4% you need another 1k armor at 3k which i go beyond with current warcry

Past that armor doesn't do anything untill you get to like 20k and 30k 95% and 99% damage reductions...even a max armor build valkyr wouod be at aabout 10k armor with 200% strengh and tripple warcry effect which won't matter at all

Good job you spend ur entire mod space to reach higuer armor levels and get.......nothing because armor diminishing returns are so god dam heavy

You need to physically break the games code to get anywhere near what you need

Even at 99.9% damage reduction something at level 500 or 1k will just sneeze near you and with that 0.01% damage still hit you for over 100k and kill you

If enemy damage done stopped by lioe level 500 it wouod be...ok-ish

Enemy defenses could continue goikg uphill with levels but their danage would plato

That way health tanking could be a thing you could build and still be somewhat viable but right now even 125 is giving issues on my testing

I'm going trough several levels of damage reduction and even using my energy as health and its still not enough

Ill just play nyx bruh screew this...my favorite warframe just made unplayable unless I use some form of shield gating like really

[storm vapor]

i mean. what are you playing her for.

[pseudo forge]

maybe, try her rework before getting all 'screw this' about it.
yeah its still a month away, but like i said. its too early to be so worried

[tough urchin]

vazarin

[storm vapor]

i dont think this is really too big of a deal unless you're doing like level cap. like you should reasonably be able to survive... idk prolly up to level 200? i know ETA can go to... i think 300...?
But like that's still prolly doable

[pseudo forge]

ETA goes to 450/500 iirc
which most are calculating reworked valkyr will be able to do, but not much beyond that

[storm vapor]

goodness, i really need to start building my frames beefier. i have i think one frame that might be able to go that high

[fathom cipher]

most frames can do it id say. just gotta build em right :D

[acoustic merlin]

Is Sevagoth prime worth building?

[storm vapor]

i mean with my current builds. i know most of my frames can go that high. only exception is, idk, titania maybe?

[sudden tendon]

Yuh hes high investment tho

[pseudo forge]

yeah
sev's pretty good
forma intensive and is usually at his best with augments

[acoustic merlin]

I’m barely MR8 so should i just hold off on him then or just do it

[pseudo forge]

if you can get the materials, go ahead
worst case scenario is he's taking up a warframe slot until you have the right stuff for him

[timid goblet]

Elite temporal archimedea for example where enemies are level 500 and longer runs where enemies scale endlessly like everyone else

[timid goblet]

I don't need to try it i rsn the math is garbage

[acoustic merlin]

Ah alright

[timid goblet]

The math doesn't support the change ....she already hits for damage cap

Omg I do 300% more melee damage which scales ADDITIVE to all the other melee damage stuff....which means ...it doesn't do anything at all

Uh oh I died

[calm flume]

Please ignore this new to the group been obsessed with Warframe and trying to go through the community

[leaden obsidian]

Welcome in

[tender perch]

Welcome, Tenno

[hexed grail]

Is this implying reworked Valkyr isn't invincible using 4 or something I haven't read anything regarding that

[sullen fractal]

Whats the fastest way to lvl up k drives? Grinding the pearl for half an hour only got me to rank 5 smh

[hexed grail]

Just do the races

As someone with every single ventkids reward

[timid goblet]

She got reworked into a health tank so get ready to get oneshot my basic enemies

[hexed grail]

What did they do to her abilities if known

[devout burrow]

they took the only reason to play her (invincibility) and removed that

so now she is just a shield gate simulator with a very cope passive gate

[sullen fractal]

Are they worth it tho? Or do they give affinity to the boards too?

[hexed grail]

Affinity for everything board related

[timid goblet]

She does more damage which already doesn't matter and she gets more armor while on her 4 but she doesn't get invincibility anymore...problem is...she's already over 2k armor with a decent build and goes over 3k with warcry which is 90% damage reduction but woth this changes she goes over 8k armor....the biggest issue is the fact that the diference from 8k armor to 3k armor is.....non-existent..maybe 3% damage reduction...because the diminishing returns are horrible..you need 30k armor to get to 99% damage reduction and a level 1k enemy would atill oneshot you with 1 bullet if you had 30k armor

So basically...she's useless now go play nyx

[devout burrow]

I mean she is still playable, she just wont be played how DE intended and I dont really know why DE would nerf a frame with such low usage rate

[timid goblet]

Like ...shield gating yeah good stuff

Another boring bs shield gating frame

[pine shuttle]

She's clearly meant to health tank, and DE doesn't care about LVL 1000+ Toxic Eximus one-shotting you

[devout burrow]

I mean if DE continues the trend of increasing levels and dmg modifiers for enemies in gamemodes, we'll actually need shield gate sooner or later

[timid goblet]

It doesn't have to be level 1k enemies i mentioned level 1k enemies because they would 1 shot you even if you had 30k armor which you won't

Ull have 8k at maximum investment

9k tops

So ull get oneshot at 92-93% damage reduction much much earlier

Amd this is maximum investment

Shards ..the umbra set...arcanes

[pine shuttle]

ETA is probably (?) the highest level "supported" content, and she'll probably be able to complete that, just a lot less comfortably.

[timid goblet]

The tripppled buffed warcry during her 4

[timid goblet]

Barely if at all

Even my 99.875% damage reduction nova struggles to not die there relying heavily on aegis triggering forced shield gate

Valkyr needs 30k armor for that level 500

Because of how armor works

And her healing got merfed to a set ammount per hit instead of damage done % so it's gonna take several hits to recover for a single bullet taken

[devout burrow]

I mean ETA is just another step into the direction of making shield gate centric gamemodes, DE reworked shield gating to be an intended feature and imo in more end game content we are getting shield gating should become more of the main survivability
unless DE reworks enemy dmg scaling shield gating should become the way to go for harder content

[timid goblet]

Its not that it should

You don't get a choice

Enemy damage scaling should stop at a point

And then you can balance frame survivability to that point

Not...whatever this is

Shield gating was a lazy solution..oh yeah guys we don't want to fix our game soooo...u get to be invulnerable now...bye

Trivialize the game entirely with 2 mods

[sudden tendon]

And then people are gonna start crying cause apparently shieldgating only works if ur a sweat

[devout burrow]

I mean shield gating is more of a "skill check" than just letting some random calculations decide whether you survive hits or not so I aint complaining

[timid goblet]

What skill?

[devout burrow]

it makes the already pretty boring game more engaging

[sudden tendon]

More than just tanking

[timid goblet]

Press a button..full shields..press a button full shields....

Play the gane..full shields

[devout burrow]

ik it becomes muscle memory after a while, but it certainly is harder to shield gate than to health tank

[sudden tendon]

And yet people cry about that mechanic

[timid goblet]

In case of valkyr because her shields are so low with catalyzing you get down to 37 and her regen is 46 per second ....so 0.2 sec delay...shield breaks and regens immediately

So you don't even need auger or anything

U just can't die

[devout burrow]

I mean shield break recharge delay cap is 0.4 seconds so you are killable

[timid goblet]

Warframe level 9999999999 shoot you with %@^×%/<×[×]!!!!!!!% damage

Me...haha funny afk immortality

[timid goblet]

1.3 sec immunity

[sudden tendon]

Theres still a delay for it to start regening

[timid goblet]

Oh no I can get hit for 0.4 seconds

[devout burrow]

wait hold on

[timid goblet]

So like..play the game

[sudden tendon]

Yes u can in fact get 1 shot during that

[devout burrow]

yeah I think it was 0.4 seconds

[timid goblet]

The shield recharge delay cap is 0.2

So the passive regen starts in 0.4

So if I can survive for less than half a second

I'm immortal

So I just...jump around

As I already am cus melee

She will be immune to status during her 4 still

So thers no....toxin procs

Its the raw damage

She will still be unkillable

With shield gating

With minor investment

[sudden tendon]

Yk its like this for like every other frame too

Its not valkyr exclusive

[errant zephyr]

Goofy idea.

Calibrated rivens: Force a veiled riven to be for your currently equipped weapon, with the cost of a great challenge, and failing it will cause said riven to shatter.

(Essentially turning the riven into 1 shard.) [Moved this from general to here lol.)

[timid goblet]

Nyx..wukong...even ember with barrier gating

Hrino with 63828262819101983829q001010q92637920q barrier

[acoustic mountain]

So I was looking at the wiki to see the chances of the Lephantis drops Equilibrium but it cuts off before I get to see each head's drops. Does anyone know the chances?

[devout burrow]

fully depleted shields will recharge after 4 seconds, and the cap is 80% of that so the delay cap should be 0.8 seconds no?

[timid goblet]

Well if ur shields are 37 and u recharge 46 in a second

Full shields in 1 tick

[devout burrow]

+the 0.8 seconds

[timid goblet]

Does the 0.8 wait for the gate to end or can it happen during the gate?

[devout burrow]

can happen during gate iirc

[timid goblet]

Iv never had to test this because every frame i have has some way to cc or immune like zephyr strsight up says no to all projectiles

[timid goblet]

So if the gate is 1.3 seconds

And the first tick fully rebuilds ur shields

What happens then

Am I just nesrly permanently immortal?

With no energy cost?

Or any cost?

[devout burrow]

I have to get smth wrong

cause if we talk catalyzing I know that you cant get full invuln from shield recharge

[timid goblet]

Seems to work fine as long as thers no overtime effect on me like bleed or fire as they tick a lot faster than the shield regen does so the shield cant ever recharge fully

Which means the shields armt regenerating in 1 shot

They regen several times withikg the second

By small ammounts

But thers also arcane aegis which removes the delay entirely

[devout burrow]

this too much of a thinking convo for the morning

[timid goblet]

Lol

[devout burrow]

all I know is that you cant be fully immortal from shield recharge alone

[timid goblet]

Leme test that....sec

[sudden tendon]

yeah ive died from it before at cap when i went afk for a lil

[timid goblet]

Ok so thers a delay between the gate and recharge of nearly a second but then aegis triggers

[devout burrow]

so the minimum delay seems to be 1 second, cause 0.8 seconds of minimum recharge and 0.2 seconds of normal recharge

but that doesnt explain the cata bug which is always 1.33 seconds

[timid goblet]

@devout burrow sp you can die if you wait for that passive regen yes

[devout burrow]

oh I think its enemies hitting you during shield gate invuln resetting your recharge timer

[timid goblet]

Interesting

Guess what tho

This still better than shield tanking

Even this passive approach

[manic notch]

damn

[timid goblet]

Use any augur

Augur secrets for that power

Boom...immortal valkyr

[lean cape]

energy tanking it is >:)

[devout burrow]

"You can absolutely be hit during shield gate you are just invulnerable
But it will reset recharge delay, and things like Aegis can proc from hits received during shield gate"

[timid goblet]

Yup

[timid goblet]

See that aegis doing work

[devout burrow]

I mean considering the passive, shield recharge tanking is gonna be quite good

[timid goblet]

And this is still better than if valkyr had 30k armor which it doesn't and never will

Even at lower levels

At all levels

Valkyr...a berserker

A brawler

Filled with rage

Having to resort to sofisticated energy systems

Thats something nyx would do

Nova

[azure siren]

I am still questioning Valkyr's changes but matters how fast can build up rage for that cheating death

[timid goblet]

It eats ur entire meter so u just die again immediately after

Right now it requires 75% to trigger cheating death but that takes a bit to get to

[devout burrow]

it should work like nidus stacks

[azure siren]

true just gives you 3 seconds, while don't think number can be manipulated

[lean cape]

ain't that a "not final" number yet

[devout burrow]

just give her 4 charges of the 75% and when one charge is depleted you still have the other 3 so still 225% dmg

[timid goblet]

True but those are the numbers im working with and if u already died because this triggers on death it only means ur gonna die again and again amd again

[lean cape]

I don't think D.E accounts Lvl cap anyway

[timid goblet]

This doesn't have to be level cap

Level 1k would 1 shot a 30k armor valkyr

[lean cape]

ngl I doubt they test it for endurance run either

[timid goblet]

And valkyr doesn't have 30k armor

[lean cape]

shrug~7

[leaden obsidian]

Valkyr has 30k armor? Thought she’d have atleast 50k

[lean cape]

ik but like majority of people just don't even get to 1k
so by the time it get's to 1k most are already doing lvl cap/ endurance run

[timid goblet]

Did you not read the rest of it

[timid goblet]

@leaden obsidian

[leaden obsidian]

I did

[timid goblet]

Oh ur joke went over my head

[timid goblet]

Again...1k is at a simulated 30k armor ull still die

[lean cape]

I know...

[pearl parcel]

hey big, hows it

[timid goblet]

U won't have 30k armor which would be 99% dr

[lean cape]

I know....

[leaden obsidian]

It’s well, hbu

[pearl parcel]

tired and sick of idiots, so normal

[timid goblet]

Ull have 4k currently which is 90% and maybe 8k or 9k on rework which is 92% ~

[lean cape]

.....

[timid goblet]

Look what level 125 does already to a 2k armor valkyr which is more realistic

[leaden obsidian]

Ah, normal

[pearl parcel]

i got accused of being a bigot for hating weebs, you tell me how that logic works

the answer is it doesnt

[leaden obsidian]

Not a clue

[median topaz]

Weebs are the second most oppressed group after gamers (in their own minds)

[timid goblet]

Using eclipse too

[pearl parcel]

they're the first most insufferable group

[timid goblet]

Sp that's 97%

Plus the energy conversion

[median topaz]

that's Roblox fans

[pearl parcel]

thats what i said, weebs

lmao

[median topaz]

I had someone in this Discord start begging for Robux because I mentioned Roblox once

[willow bluff]

Did someone say microsoft rewards?

[leaden obsidian]

Nahhh

[viscid stirrup]

You promised my son that you will give him free Robux.

[willow bluff]

Ask microsoft rewards
Bing gives free robux

In exchange you'll have to endure bing

[median topaz]

better than Google these days

[willow bluff]

Microsoft edge keeps begging me to make it my default browser

[median topaz]

though admittedly I switched to ddg

also eesh

[willow bluff]

Hell microsoft even had this compulsion once I downloaded an extension
That said "Make microsoft edge default browser or else you won't use this extension"

[peak moth]

What's better for invisibility? Shade or the chesa kubrow

[leaden obsidian]

[willow bluff]

Chesa doesn't do that
It's huras kubrow

[peak moth]

Well which is better?

[willow bluff]

Also shade has been fixed to perform just like huras

[devout burrow]

really depends on whether you want double resources or a back up shield gate

[willow bluff]

There's only one thing you have to worry about

[peak moth]

Backup shield gate?

[devout burrow]

via guardian

[peak moth]

Oh right

[willow bluff]

Companion behaviour
If u have shade's signature precept equipped to "attack only when not invisible" then shade won't attack enemies to disturb ur stealth.

Meanwhile for huras u can use elusive posture mod so huras will never attack enemy even if you're not invisible

[pearl parcel]

thats when you use a different extension

linux is looking more promising by the day, the only thing keeping me is the fact that i'd have to reinstall every game

[willow bluff]

I don't remember what it was but I usually don't download extensions so it must be somewhat important

[pearl parcel]

you dont need to ping me

[willow bluff]

Did I keep the ping on?

I don't remember

[pearl parcel]

ye

[willow bluff]

Is there a setting to keep it off by default when replying?

[pearl parcel]

there is

[willow bluff]

Hmm I can't find it
Atleast not on phone

[leaden obsidian]

I looked all over and couldn’t find it

[placid turtle]

Nah doesn't seem like there's one besides toggling it here

There is, however, the option to not get pinged at all, so if anyone doesn't want to get pinged, they can turn that setting off instead of asking everyone else to stop using the basic default feature on Discord

[tender perch]

Even with it on, I don't really get pinged when someone replies. It just highlights the message.

[tender perch]

Was gonna say that too 😭

[placid turtle]

I think it'll ping you if you're on a different channel/don't have the screen open

[tender perch]

Yeah but Sleepy fr be yapping in the chat and then tells a mf to not ping him when they reply

[unkempt cedar]

is Octavia Prime still good for AFK farms

[rocky breach]

semi afk farms, yes

you still need to move around/pop in and out of spoiler to beat the afk detection

[unkempt cedar]

whats good prime for afk these days?

[pallid canyon]

octavia or xaku

neither are true afk though

i dont know why you’d want afk anyways

[sudden tendon]

he refuses to turn that on

[pallid canyon]

mfs when they can solve their own problems

[rocky breach]

theres also addons (at your own risk) which could do that functionality with more granularity

[unkempt cedar]

well do some farm while working XD

[rocky breach]

you wont ever get true afk farming unless you skirt ToS

and thats not something you want to do

[pallid canyon]

I wouldn’t even recommend it

[unkempt cedar]

Semi is good enuff

[pallid canyon]

Warframe picks up on extensions and add ons like they’re nothing

[unkempt cedar]

yeahhh Id hate to get killed while AFK

well octavia it is then

[rocky breach]

ive done lots of semi afk farming, where ill be watching a movie or something and just refresh my stuff/spoiler mode every 40sec
but im still there manually doing stuff, usually have an onscreen timer (like Wsplit or whatever to keep track)

just very little attention/effort

[unkempt cedar]

yes excatly what I wanna do

Btw octavia or xaaku?

[rocky breach]

either, you just want perma invis and a auto/passive nuke

xaku + ivara quiver works

[quaint brook]

The weird thing about this is that I still sometimes get the @ everyone ping on servers where Ive put it to nothing, and I dont understand how to make it stop

[unkempt cedar]

oh wait wrong question which one is easier to play and build

im kinda noobie myself

[rocky breach]

they play the same lol, drop your nukes/skills, go invis, just refresh it and clear your afk timer

[pure gulch]

octavia can still die while invis so you just have to be somewhat careful

[unkempt cedar]

I see

[pure gulch]

but in general the invis does make her ”invincible” in a way I suppose

[red vale]

For those who played stynax does he armor strip ? With his ability

[rocky breach]

tharros strike will full strip shields and armor at 200str

[pallid canyon]

we are so not styamaxxing 💔 🥀

[red vale]

May 21th Yareli grind starts

[pallid canyon]

His 2nd ability full strips in a coned aoe (field of view)

has a 9m range

[median topaz]

Shield strip, armor strip, self-heal

Tharros Strike rules

[pallid canyon]

its pretty good armor strip

its just a matter of finding the time to use it

in bass steel path you’ll never need to use it because his 4th + Nourish will rip things apart so fast

in high level steel path you have to constantly cast his 4 for survival, leaving you little comfort time to use it

as for helminth, it would be the best slot in strip ability if terrify didn’t exist

[olive sundial]

Is chroma getting a rework?

[placid turtle]

Not one that's been announced

Next Warframe to get a rework is Valkyr

I think she's getting it with the June update

Then an Heirloom skin in July

[olive sundial]

Ah kk cause I heard about it but I wasnt sure

Tyty

[pallid canyon]

Chroma doesnt even really need a rework

People just like to pretend that hes worse than he is

hes pretty much unkillable up to level 1000+ steel path

and after that point you can just shield gate with him

he’s a phenomenal weapons platform regardless

[compact sable]

valkyr got a rework and she wasnt bad either though

she was stronger than chroma even

[rocky breach]

yeah people only see black and white, its either trash or its meta, no inbetween
meanwhile most people at most will play to lvl500-1000 max (and health/armor tanking can go there with a bit of investment)

[pallid canyon]

health and armor tanking only goes that far on frames dedicated to that playstyle

(chroma for example)

[compact sable]

literally any frame can cap because they can all shield gate (except inaros, kullervo, nidus but gl with them)

so logically no frame needed a rework 🙂

[pallid canyon]

ash still needs a rework

bro is still boring as hell

thanks DE for the last rework where you made the drastic gameplay change of giving him mod slots 🥀

[compact sable]

it wasnt really a rework it was just buffs tbh

then again most reworks (hehe) are just buffs

[pallid canyon]

DE likes to misslabel buffs/nerfs as reworks

[rocky breach]

ive taken a health tank nekros to 4hr mots before it got too spicy (and i got bored)
sure if i was shieldgating it would go further, but thats outside what normal people would play
a dedicated tank frame would have it even easier.

i honestly think the people who have issues health tanking under lvl 500 are just standing there trying to block every shot with their body

[pallid canyon]

I know I rant about Ash slop a lot but brother he needs something,
He’s just so boring, I’ve been maining him since the free Ash P drop when Fortuna’s show off stream happened

[compact sable]

why do you main a frame that you think is boring 🥀

[pallid canyon]

like

[pallid canyon]

dedication to the drip

[compact sable]

tbh I think the only thing I'd change is making his 4 a radiating aoe from him rather than having to spaz your mouse all over the place

[rocky breach]

im wondering if they would nerf ash damage if they made him more engaging, cos currently hes broken strong tier as far as damage goes

[pallid canyon]

The problem with his 4th is its like

I dont care how much damage it does

[compact sable]

ash damage isnt a problem

[pallid canyon]

its still slower than just using my weapon

[compact sable]

like despite all that broken damage no one plays him because its not convenient

[pallid canyon]

even at level cap

[rocky breach]

i guess hes a bit like octavia, because hes so safe in invis, and you spend a decent amount of time seting up his 4 (aiming it, then waiting for animation) he prob feels boring

[compact sable]

like yeah despite his broken damage his KPM is still quite low

[pallid canyon]

Make his teleport work like slash dash

Make his 1st ricochet

[rocky breach]

just have to view ash as the priority target killer i guess

[pallid canyon]

just use a heavy melee weapon or something

its so tragic

the armor strip should be innate with his 1, the teleport ability still lowkey sucks even with its augment, his 2 is awesome but thats just because its 20+ seconds of raw invis

his 4th is slop

the best part about ash is that he has 3 abilities I can confortably swap out for Helminth abilities

because they all lowkey stink

i’m on my knees begging for something for this warframe that makes him entertaining

[fathom cipher]

real 😭🙏

[finite ice]

little race with titania towards the end

[fathom cipher]

holy i forgot how the game looked with all the effects turned up. how do u play gauss, who slams into all those walls with those settings 😭 my brain would be hurting. fun race tho xddd

got lost a bit tho

if u didnt get lost u mightve won

[finite ice]

Probably yeah, didnt help that the door slammed in my face at the end lol

[rocky breach]

bloom and screenshake

[torn gyro]

Hi everyone!
What's the best way to level up Zariman and Kavia? Especially collecting level up materials? Cause, like, I don't go to Warframe to do pixel hunting and check every corner, so it's hard for me to find all that voca/void plumes and etc

[rocky breach]

with zariman you can get plumes from bounty rewards (and theres always an angel in each mission)
so finding an easy bounty (exterm+ez objective) and killing the angel is probably the easiest if you dont want to loot radar+box break for the 8/8 plumes

with cavia sadly doing bounties is probably the best, since you only get the collectables from exploring (and occasionally 1/3 from a gruzzling)

[torn gyro]

Wait, angel in every mission? Do I need to find it? I saw them only in tower defense mission

[rocky breach]

theres 1 petrified big angel in each mission, they always drop a 5k standing pinion

if you run madurai as your school, you can melt them fast, so its a quick encounter

[torn gyro]

Daaamn, never saw them

[late vessel]

When using divine retribution, do you prime enemies first before impaling or the other way?

[torn gyro]

It's less about standing, like, I can just run bounties a lot, but voidgel/plumes for level up - urgh

[rocky breach]

1/8 of the collectable voidplumes is a crest
2/8 are vanes
5/8 have a 25% chance each to be vanes, or will be downs

accolades for melica will give a quill (sometimes appears multiple times in a level)
angels will give a pinion (always 1 in every level)

Zariman Bounties from Quinn award 1-5 Voidplume Quills depending on the difficulty.
Tier 1 Bounty has a chance to award a Voidplume Down.
Tier 2 Bounty has a chance to award a Voidplume Vane.
Tier 3 Bounty has a chance to award a Voidplume Crest.

[rocky breach]

impale first, then do your statuses, since they're all shared while impaled

[late vessel]

Does the status dmg the same for everyone?

[torn gyro]

Oh, btw, any easy trick to do Melica? Never found her stuff

[rocky breach]

they give off a shimmery audio if within 25m of you, and they spawn within ~80m of melica terminal
usually at max 1 room away, but sometimes 2 rooms if they're small rooms/hallways
the spawns are set so if you run enough you end up learning the spots

[rocky breach]

yeah, whatever hit caused the status is copied to everyone
so if you aoe heat 8 targets, every speared enemy will get 8 heat stacks, each stack based on whatever caused the initial heat

its why dante nuke/thermal sunder/temple nuke are popular subsumes
some aoe status nukes that will get amplified when spears end for ez killing

[night sapphire]

anyone else getting a broken orowyrm? flew into a fist near the lunar court and head can no longer be reachrd

[rocky breach]

or you can use a status hose beam weapon and just swipe it through any speared targets
(phantasma, phage, t glaxion, k nukor, t cycron, torid incarnon, furis incarnon, etc)

[dense eagle]

I did a little bit of farming... (Got a resource booster and drop booster + my smeeta kavat with resourceful retriever and steel path in about 7 hours)

[narrow agate]

so for a lot of my damage I’m only seeing the status symbols, is there somewhere in settings so I can see the actual damage?

[rocky breach]

in options go to the search bar and search for "damage" should have HUD>Show Damage Numbers
make sure its not set to disabled, you can change the size/opacity/etc if the numbers are too big/obnoxious (which imo the default values are)

[narrow agate]

Thank you

[sudden tendon]

why would u ever do this

[dense eagle]

Because this is how I make plat lol

[sudden tendon]

ah fair enough

[dense eagle]

I sell cats, and sell specific cat combos if people want them too

[sudden tendon]

ur like the first person ive seen still trading pets

[dense eagle]

Still?

[compact sable]

people still buy cats?

[dense eagle]

Yes, lots lol

[compact sable]

thats insane

[sudden tendon]

seen some people that used to trade pets but dont anymore

[compact sable]

would have thought most people just get a vulpaphyla and turn their brain off

[rocky breach]

i mean i still sell arcane helmets
and im sure that market is smaller than pet buyers
(tbf its like 1 helm a month)

[sudden tendon]

yeah im kinda surprised

[fathom cipher]

ngl i dont think i have any good pets 😭

i just use sentinels 😩

i shiuld grab a huras or panzer vulp maybe

[rocky breach]

some people like fashioning pets, want specific tales/ears/etc, if the market is there, then more power to them

[dense eagle]

Thats what I do

[sudden tendon]

huras is so goated

[dense eagle]

I have a cat-alogue :p

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

[fathom cipher]

i gotta grab crepuscular 💔 i cant believe im so poor i cant buy a 30 plat arcane rn 😭

[sudden tendon]

😭

[fathom cipher]

we halfway there. 17p LMAO

[sudden tendon]

u gotta have some random thing u can sell right

[fathom cipher]

idk maybe a collection of random prime pieces. idk if i just scrapped it all for ducats tho

[sudden tendon]

i think u gotta start scamming

[late vessel]

Either scrap for ducat and sell primed mods for like 30p or sell to some guy buying prime junks

[compact sable]

why not just buy them with rep

1999 rep is p easy to get

[rocky breach]

did you do 1999 standing/coda grind?
cos you should have passively gotten heaps if you did

[fathom cipher]

nah i havent touched it after getting rank 5 around release 😭

[sudden tendon]

gotta keep at it then

[fathom cipher]

and i havent done any coda stuff yet lol

[sullen bobcat]

You should, it's a much faster grind, and frankly more fun especially if you're doing it with the calenders or bounties

[sudden tendon]

i mean u cant even use them so

[fathom cipher]

oh yeah u right 😭

[rocky breach]

you in game crispy?

[fathom cipher]

not rn

ill be on in like 10 tho cuz i wanna grind some toroids

im tryna work on my wisp fashion a bit since imma try and use her more. idk if i like havin a bit of blue on it tho but i honestly cant tell if its blue or black atp 😭

[tired halo]

I have now gotten 2 different anwsers

[rocky breach]

only 1 i know works is if you only own 1/3 of the items, and you sell the owned 1 it rerolls (since it always gives you at least 1 owned item)
not sure if getting rid of stuff when you have 2/3 or 3/3 owned works

[fathom cipher]

imma forma my wisp a few more times

[lost storm]

Should I sell my Pupacyst to free up weapon slot space?

[stable crescent]

I'm currently trying to get sevagoth

[fathom cipher]

base or prime

[mellow scaffold]

man at this point im gonna have to craft 100 ciphers

these high rank rescue missions are horrid

it wants me to solve 3 of the corpus puzzles in 30 seconds

not even factoring in the travel time

[pliant trench]

there one u can 100x cipher per craft

iirc in dojo blueprint

[mellow scaffold]

yea but i gotta spend a bit of time grinding for those materials

but anything for steel path

though i havent done new war yet

cant believe i have to craft a necramech for that

[fathom cipher]

nope that requirement is gone

dont need the necramech anymore. they lend u one

[pliant trench]

u crafted it or not? cuz rn u in quest u get "rent" version

also railjack

[mellow scaffold]

i havent

[mellow scaffold]

oh

well ig i just need to get a better railjack then

[pliant trench]

probably outdated guide lol

[mellow scaffold]

or is the rent version horrible for the questline

[fathom cipher]

ngl i rawdogged tnw with a totally unupgraded rj and was fine but it took a little bit of skill 😭

[fathom cipher]

all the same ngl

[pliant trench]

so-so lot of ppl said it got terrible timing to avoid "radiation", might be better u learn the scope running 1 railjack

mission*

[mellow scaffold]

for the railjack or necramech

[pliant trench]

necramech is fine, railjack is so-so

[mellow scaffold]

yeah im gonna spend a few days getting a better railjack then

absolutely hate those missions

[fathom cipher]

id say try to get the boost for rj at least. i went in with a totally unupgraded rj and it was hell for like 40 mins

[mellow scaffold]

i cant even do the 2nd earth mission

my railjack gets 1 shotted

man still cant believe the best advice for "early game" railjack

is to just leech off of an already maxed out friend to help you get decent components

so you can do early missions

[pliant trench]

right rather u get the pilot intrisics perk b4 doing tnw

[mellow scaffold]

man

[mellow scaffold]

as in max out the entire thing

[pliant trench]

oh no lol

just get til R4

R10 just a bonus movement

[mellow scaffold]

yea

but from the 3 runs i did at railjack

i suck at survivability

[late vessel]

Tactical r4 is also crucial
Save you a good 50% of mission time honestly