gameplay-discussion

[sick plover]

honestly it was a given that they'd remove it

kinda was a braindead play to just bank on old defy

[fair flame]

to be fair that was his ONLY good play stlye back then

[sick plover]

but then again, Revenant is about the same

[fair flame]

wish they added back iron jab as a middle click to iron staff

[sick plover]

kinda weird Mesmer has never been renerfed

[fair flame]

i miss just pokeing someone 20 me away and makeing them fall over

i forgot about this it was a funny gimick

wait. now im wonding what happen to that mod if you owned it?!

[sick plover]

iron jab became celestial twin, and thus it turned into its augment

[fair flame]

id rather have iron jab back over that twin

make it an augment again but this time for his 4th that lets you uses it when useing his stick

[restive warren]

[pearl parcel]

hey pix

there was a tornado+hailstorm

[digital quiver]

halo

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/spideran-meme-into-the-spiderverse-miles-morales-peter-parker-gif-13634079

[restive warren]

[crystal tulip]

ogh, can you trade nitian extract?

[sick plover]

nope

[snow cargo]

right then, what is this....

[lofty garden]

Lua spy vault?

[sick plover]

looks more like the derelict

[snow cargo]

the ayatan treasure thing. cant get out bc of a glass wall?

[lofty garden]

I don’t recall glass on the derelict

[snow cargo]

im stood staring at it

[sick plover]

ground too dirty to be lua

[crystal tulip]

daMn iT

[sick plover]

i could probably tell what it is if i saw the entire room

[lofty garden]

map overlay time

[crystal tulip]

OH there’s always an exit

just look around :)

it could also be glitched

[lofty garden]

exits have become optional

[crystal tulip]

true

[sick plover]

if i got 1 platinum for every time the waypoint bugs out, i'd be rich

[lofty garden]

at least he still has one

[sick plover]

i mean, sometimes the waypoint just points at a nonsensical way

[lofty garden]

1999 tileset, it just up and disappears from the HUD and the map overlay

[sick plover]

revive waypoint bugs out if someone uses last grasp

legit hard to find the corpse you have to give some revive juice

[woeful hornet]

It would be awesome if Orowyrms could be called upon, beyond duviri.

Like in Voidstorm Railjack missions, as a valid vehicle for railjack usage

[sick plover]

honestly, best we'd get is probably a duviri-themed frame based on moods with the ability to spawn the wyrmlings

honestly, if this idea is what happens to be the next frame...

[woeful hornet]

Meh, that's good enough I suppose.

[sick plover]

considering duviri is gonna get a revisit by murmer

DE, please add some of the new old frames to NM circuit

[woeful hornet]

Oh yeah, new murmur-lookin enemies shown at the end of the recent devstream

[sick plover]

the funny thing with circuit is it holds all the frames that have a prime up to that time

minus equinox, due to the amount of parts that has.

i bet the day they add Grendel into circuit, no1 wants to do the torture that is Grendel's locators.

[woeful hornet]

Speaking of equinox, I would like to see some sort of QOL for them. Like a clearer divide between the two modes.

[sick plover]

hear me out.
allow us to separately color the day and night form.

its so hard to get day and night right

[woeful hornet]

YES

[sick plover]

equinox used to be my syndicate frame for ages

nowadays i switched out for xaku, way more range

[woeful hornet]

Also Skeleframe is just DopAmEin

[sick plover]

equinox built for range is about 40-ish meters

xaku is 70 and doesnt require damage-storage

luv me loot skeletony frame

[restive warren]

Considering apparently they said no to color head/body separatedly, we both know that option too will probably not happen.

[lyric lotus]

[pearl parcel]

mint or cinnamon

[restive warren]

Mint

[lyric lotus]

Ginger

[magic yew]

if I'm farming for thrax plasm which booster works?

[placid turtle]

Resource chance + Resource booster

[magic yew]

thnx

[daring parrot]

isn't it a 100% drop chance tho

[placid turtle]

Depends which thrax plasm, Lua isn't 100% guaranteed

[acoustic mountain]

Dies it effect how strong they are if you try to convert a lich at low rank vs high rank?

[placid turtle]

And idk maybe the chance increases how much there is

[placid turtle]

yes

[daring parrot]

didn't realize that drop chance booster increases mission reward chances

[acoustic mountain]

They are stronger at rank 5 after converting?

[placid turtle]

Yep

[placid turtle]

It doesn't, but it increases the chance for Lua Thrax to drop Lua Thrax Plasm

Unlike regular Thrax, who definitely drop some plasm after they die, Lua Thrax aren't guaranteed to drop any

[daring parrot]

ah

[frank flax]

Trading Protea Prime Systems for Banshee Prime systems. Anyone interested?

[late vessel]

Can you remove archon shard from a warframe?

[frank flax]

Yes.

You need 30% bile though.

[late vessel]

Thx

[frank flax]

Np.

[mellow summit]

I’m using Tyana Pass to farm encumber for plat. Should I switch to something else or should I stick with it?

[dense plaza]

The big weapon recommendations google spreadsheet I used is now private. Does anyone know if there's a copy of it lying around?

[somber cedar]

Hey guys what's up. Just been wondering for so long now since been playing the game for almost 2 years now. I feel like anytime or at least last time I have sold few sets of prime frames or weapons I'm getting the feeling I'm either losing so much profit or am I ust overthinking it? See I got few prime sets I just able to grind up and ready to sell it anytime. One of them is on prime resurgence rotation right now, and I got bout 2 sets of it and I don't want to sell it blindly come to find out I'm losing so much profit by doing so. So I definitely would love to know in your experience as a player is there such a thing as best time to sell prime frame set especially that ones I just farmed up during a prime resurgence because the current one will be done in literally 2 days and we'll have another one which is Nekros and Oberon Prime. Any advice would be hihgly appreciate!

[late vessel]

Usually you waitfor a while until the supply slowly goes away ie a couple months (at least it's how i manage to sell some older primes for a couple hundred plat)
On a side note ty for mentioning that Nekros is up next cuz i need him

[royal moss]

It always seems inconsistent on how much the community usually goes for pricing each Warframe

[orchid mist]

Ideally, you wait about half a year or so for the supply to dwindle, causing prices to go up; it's the way of the stock market
Of course, that also is determinant on if you'll be willing to wait that long

[somber cedar]

Thanks a lot. That's what I get most of the time where I know by default anyone that's vaulted would technically be able to sell it on higher prices yet I guess depends on the frame and demand wise.

[royal moss]

I saw Limbo going for upwards of 110p meanwhile I bought Chroma Prime for 65p

[orchid mist]

Chroma also has one use, and one use alone: robbing a certain blue Corpus ball of all her money's worth

[somber cedar]

That is crazy guys. Yeah same, ust like few weeks ago I know Glaive Prime used to cost almost more than 100 plat and I bought it somehow for only 60 plat. Now that's some insane stuff I tell you that much. Lol

[orchid mist]

Limbo can almost completely stall enemies and protect Excavators and other timed objectives quite well

[late vessel]

No. 1 corpus spy champion

[mild dome]

Huh.... I actually thought I couldn't hate faceoff any more than I already did, guess I was wrong

[orchid mist]

leaves a PvP game mode
expects to not get a matchmaking penalty

[mild dome]

I only left since we got the opposing squad reconnect message, which in 100% of cases, means no enemy players, only ai. Which means zero conclave standing

Or have you actually got that message, and not realize you've wasted your time after doing the mission? I've tried 7-8 times, 0% success

[somber cedar]

Either way guys thanks for giving me some good advice on selling these prime frames and weapons, I was gonna go all out and get 2 more sets but I realized it's literally bout to be done. Now I know for a fact, Nekros Prime sets are going to be a lot cheaper now for sure.

[fervent moth]

Yeah it's so stupid you don't get Conclave standing if the opposing team doesn't connect back.

[mild dome]

The worst part is, that nothing informs you that you're playing against ai, only hints are the enemy progress, which might as well be them suffering bugs

[orchid mist]

okay y'know what, that's entirely fair
I've just completely neglected faceoff, all my conclave standing comes exclusively from universal medallions

[mild dome]

Faceoff itself is fine, but the problem is, nothing in it works, and that makes it so bad

[orchid mist]

I did the normal and steel path versions once for the completion and ran off

[mild dome]

Trust me, I'll never touch faceoff again once I get all my conclave rewards, which might be never due to the infinite amount of bugs

[fervent moth]

There's so many conclave weapon skins tho. I'm gunning for those

[mild dome]

Yesterday DE kicked me out of my atomicycle in a faceoff during the start, then half a min / min later I got function loss bug.
Didn't connect it due to the time between. Went 2 minutes until I remembered atomicycle bug, re-equipped it, and then it started working again

Jesus...Not only once, I got to do pve twice. So punishment for leaving a fake pvp (pve) game, is forcing me into actual pve several times

[orchid mist]

:gone:

[tender perch]

I'd legit rather funnel ants in my ear before playing conclave

[silk grail]

can corrupted vor spawn more than once in a mission, rn im farming for a mod so i just wanted to check incase i dont waste my time

[pearl parcel]

i dont think he can

[leaden obsidian]

He can only spawn once

[pearl parcel]

ok yeah i was right

[sick quartz]

how do you tell protoframes' status with you

[sudden tendon]

Clicking on their profiles in the KIM chats

[sick quartz]

how close is friendly to liked

[silk grail]

does taking dmg count to oversheild to riven challenge?

[sudden tendon]

I think its the next one but i didnt rly pay attention to that

[sudden tendon]

I believe so

[sick quartz]

also need to progress days so that some of them will receive the gifts i got them

[peak moth]

Is there a non pregnant version of jade?

[leaden obsidian]

Next one up shoukd be liked iirc, I forgot since I never reset the chats

[leaden obsidian]

I wish but no

[sick quartz]

no. she was pregnant when she [lore spoilers]

[peak moth]

She looks so wierd

[leaden obsidian]

I wish she had an alt skin that made her not preggo, but unfortunately she has no alt skin

[sick quartz]

because its part of her lore that shes pregnant

[pearl parcel]

this

[peak moth]

This might stop me from playing her

[sick quartz]

its a massive part of her story bruh

[pearl parcel]

i dont give a damn, i dont want my funny AC-130 frame to look silly

if i cared about story, i'd act like it, i want paladin jade

[leaden obsidian]

I tossed her to the wall after a but simply cause of that. She looks out of place with the preggo belly

[sick quartz]

enemy AC-130 inbound

[pearl parcel]

dont ping me

[peak moth]

Fr, it feels and looks weird playing a pregnant frame

[leaden obsidian]

Ik it’s part of her story but like, give me an option to remove it atleast

[sick quartz]

just wait til you find out what happened to her in the first days of her time as a warframe. pulling heartstrings you didnt know were there

[pearl parcel]

they gave us an unbroken mask for umbra, give me a plated torso for jade

[pearl parcel]

i
do
not
care

[leaden obsidian]

What heartstrings? I played warframe to commit many warcrime, not have feelings

If I had feelings I’d play destiny, oh wait

[sick quartz]

so do i, then i looked up her lore

[pearl parcel]

im here to set fire to the enemies of humanity, not care about some random woman

[sick quartz]

"random"

[devout burrow]

I feel like its important to differ between gameplay and lore

[sudden tendon]

Helldiver ahhhhh

[pearl parcel]

i doubt that, canonically, we can instantly kill the ropalolyst and have homing, piercing, explosive arrows made of radiation

[leaden obsidian]

Gameplay is lore

[sick quartz]

yeah, especially because of how interwoven DE has made them

[devout burrow]

I dont get it, I just woke up, are you baiting or smth?

[peak moth]

Tbh Idc about lore never have. Just let me play my damn game

[pearl parcel]

and let me make my frame look decent and not horribly out of place and strange

[peak moth]

Fr

[leaden obsidian]

potentially

[peak moth]

Only game I have ever cared about lore was God of war cause I like mythology

[sudden tendon]

BRING ME SOOOOOOS

[peak moth]

Sorry he is already dead

[sick quartz]

genuinely dont care how this gets taken, if you see jade as weird because of the fact that shes pregnant makes me feel like youre the kind of person who tell girls they should smile more. and not in a good way

[devout burrow]

but generally I do kind of have to agree that the recent updates were not very good lore wise

[sudden tendon]

BOY

[devout burrow]

like we had whispers which was expected to be some huge wally lore and then we got a love story bruh

then 1999 is just a dating sim and the most random story known to man

[sudden tendon]

Finally someone else who doesnt like 1999

[pearl parcel]

i dont like the way the frame looks because im playing warcrime simulator, i want to have that armored, heavy war machine feel, not a giant glass orb that can be broken instantly

[sudden tendon]

All ive been hearing is 1999 glaze

[peak moth]

I'm playing a game about making my character look good and mass genocide. I don't wanna be pregnant. It's a game

[sick quartz]

then play something else. you have so many options for frames

[pearl parcel]

the weapons are lame, the arcanes are rare as hell, and the two new factions feel like copy pastes of the grineer and infested respectively

[leaden obsidian]

Actually true

[pearl parcel]

actually, disrespectively

[leaden obsidian]

Grineer and infested if they were actually good

[pearl parcel]

i gotta say i prefer base grineer to scaldra

[leaden obsidian]

Theu’re ripoffs but better than the original imo

[sudden tendon]

Nah scaldra and techrot is lame

[pearl parcel]

techrot is literally just infested though

its all copy pasted enemies

[leaden obsidian]

Yes but shields

Infested with shields

[pearl parcel]

woop de doo, reskinned infesteds with shields

they have a blue section of healthbar

[devout burrow]

I really hope DE stops focusing on characters too much and gives us more cool stuff
make story telling cool again and not car ride with the weeb, sniper elite with the dude who is written to not be able to form a gramatically correct sentence, and play mobile defence with the infested tongue girl

[leaden obsidian]

Tbf the shields do nothing, but it gives some no extra defense

[pearl parcel]

give us actually interesting weapons

NOT LOCKED BEHIND SUPER HIGH MR

[sudden tendon]

Quincy is just an british roadman

[devout burrow]

17 is pretty low

[pearl parcel]

give us frames that look like they belong
give us arcanes that have a drop rate people can obtain

[pearl parcel]

its not and dont ping me

[devout burrow]

idk imo people who complain about the MR of the codas are just insanely lazy

[pearl parcel]

screw you too

[devout burrow]

cause you get to 17 by just playing

[pearl parcel]

i play the game to enjoy weapons, play new modes, and screw with new stuff, not grind a thousand worthless weapons ill sell the moment im done levelling them

[leaden obsidian]

I got to 19 by just playing and crafting weapons and frames

[pearl parcel]

its a sink of resources and doesnt respect my time because a solid 90% of all weapons are generico garbage and nothing but MR fodder

[leaden obsidian]

Did you want a game that respected your time?

[devout burrow]

warframe might not be the game for you gang

[pearl parcel]

big there was an entire tornado earlier today, im in no mood for your nonsense

[sudden tendon]

It isnt really that much weapon grinding for mr 17 not that the coda weapons are that worth anyways

[pearl parcel]

i nearly spilled my mac n cheese because lightning shook my damned house

[pearl parcel]

you're ignoring my entire point

again

mr isnt tied to actually mastering mechanics, its just tied to sinking time and resources into building all the generico garbage weapons, the ones you'll sell or craft into something else the very second they hit level 30

[devout burrow]

DE should have just locked incarnons behind MR20 or smth, so that people get used to MR locks again

[pearl parcel]

god NO

are you stupid

[devout burrow]

no, I just play the game

I also didnt level a lot of stuff I just cba to get and am MR28

[leaden obsidian]

Tbf I barely chatted here all day

[pearl parcel]

and i dont care

[peak moth]

Can you keep doing orowyrm instead of leaving duviri everytime and just keep your decrees?

[sudden tendon]

Dont believe so

[restive warren]

No

[devout burrow]

every duviri instance one orowyrm

[pearl parcel]

hey pix, we have the illiterate again

[restive warren]

If you want more pathos clamps you'll do your portals.

[sudden tendon]

Yeah im mr 19 and i have like 100 things in my foundry rn

[restive warren]

Only way to keep your decrees :D

[peak moth]

But that only nets you 9 more and you can only do it on sp once

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[pearl parcel]

zsss is completely ignoring my point, the one i've made 9 times now

[restive warren]

Just requeued then. Solo at your own pace.

[pearl parcel]

the one i state very bluntly and dont dance around

[restive warren]

It's not a "True endless mission" so don't treat it as one.

[peak moth]

I used hoped you'd be able too

[restive warren]

Idk much of what happened, but from previous experience with them they are very smart, so there's prob a understanding issue or B- they are uninterested in the conversion

[urban charm]

I'm trapped in Duviri

[pearl parcel]

your previous experience isnt too accurate then

[restive warren]

Hm

🤷🏻‍♀️

[restive warren]

Bug?

[devout burrow]

ZSSS do be a chill and competent dude

[urban charm]

Yeah

I can't do anything

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-my-new-character-gif-13347199963925500317

[urban charm]

Not even leave

[restive warren]

Can we have a pic of what's going on or we gonna skip all dat foreplay and just be as vague as physically possible?

[restive warren]

So... You can't move and stuck like that? Do you know when/after what you did that it started?

[sudden tendon]

u cant press esc? or u try /unstuck?

[urban charm]

Correct

[restive warren]

Hmm

So no interaction with anything from the screen and no keyboard input does anything.

[urban charm]

I somehow transferenced while leaving The Undercroft

[devout burrow]

time to close the game and restart

[urban charm]

I'm using controller, but correct

Good thing it's Duviri

[restive warren]

Not too bad if you took a decree "not that long ago"

But from what I'm seeing you're solo so you can't ALT F4 and hope to quickly reconnect.

[urban charm]

I got a decree right before this happened

[restive warren]

At least you know what caused the issue so you can report it on forum/and avoid doing that again

[restive warren]

Should've saved the material you've gotten. Just unfortunate you'll have to skip the pathos on that run :(

[fair flame]

Kath. how many cats it too many cats

[restive warren]

It's fine as long as it's not cramped

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lady-cats-kitty-feeding-gif-17897112

still not enufe

[sudden tendon]

4

[restive warren]

Depend on the cats honestly

[devout burrow]

1 orange cat is already too much

[restive warren]

I had 2 growing up, 1 was always hidden

my other orange?

[devout burrow]

however 4 black cats be chill af

[restive warren]

A menace

[fair flame]

most i had at once was 7

[restive warren]

I think nouka was afraid of Timine

He was such a sheethead

Just randomly wacking people getting in the bedroom on the 5 head

[fair flame]

whats the 5 head?

[restive warren]

Forehead

[fathom cipher]

6 head

[restive warren]

[fair flame]

9headed fox

[fathom cipher]

im so screwed i just woke up 😭

[sudden tendon]

what time did u sleep?

[fathom cipher]

4:30pm

[restive warren]

It was so impressive to hear a resounding clap when he'd just slapped my dad's head.

[sudden tendon]

bro hibernating😭

[sudden tendon]

throw american cheese next time

[restive warren]

That cat is long dead :(

I was smoll at the time

[sudden tendon]

😔

[fair flame]

throw cheese on your life partners forehead.

[fathom cipher]

ur makin me sad cuz my dogs are getting older 😭

[restive warren]

Wouldn't be the weirdest thing I throw at him, got it

[restive warren]

Yeah it's rough to see them get old

Or get sick

[fair flame]

is it strange i uses the term life partner becase of all the sifi shows i watch and inter species relatons

[pearl parcel]

im not looking forward to tomorrow

im expected to show up at 4 pm but i wont get to present until 6, he's expecting us to wait hours just for our final project presentation for people that arent even in the class

[restive warren]

Gotta love when people refuse to make sense

[pearl parcel]

remember, this is during finals weeks

wasting 2 entire hours for an unrelated class just because "its tradition"

[restive warren]

Sounds like not the time to not make sense

So you're just gonna stay there T-posing in your seat doing nothing?

Or are you allowed to read or somethin'

[pearl parcel]

basically just sitting there

waiting, watching the other peoples presentations

[restive warren]

ah

[pearl parcel]

for a class we are not in

a class unrelated to the capstone

[fair flame]

Read the book about on how to T pose useing the A pose framework

[pearl parcel]

honestly im tempted to simply not go because i have other stuff going on tahts more important than some incompetent teachers dong measuring contest with ku

[mild cypress]

Silly question but can’t figure it out. My MR points for companion is 66000 but for companion weapon is 44000. It should be even right? Since every companion have its weapon?

[pearl parcel]

not every companion has a wepaon, consider the dog

[fair flame]

all compaions come with there own weapons but there are some bonus pet weapons you can get that give you more pet weapons than pets

[restive warren]

Claws don't count as far as I'm aware.

[mild cypress]

Oh! Gotcha yeah and also does warframe companion like Venarj counts?

[fair flame]

theres like 5 bonus weapons for pets

[restive warren]

I don't remember on top of my head

[mild cypress]

From Fortuna? Helstrum etc?

[fair flame]

yeeep

[restive warren]

Ah yes it does

Kavat count includes Venari and Venari Prime.

[fair flame]

i mean i guess you could count each moa moddle as its own sperit pet since theres 5 models and 5 fortuna weapons

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-attack-gif-3417136

[mild cypress]

Forgot about that, does other weapon useful? Seems not the meta weapon.

[restive warren]

Some of the weapon from Fortuna like Helstrum and I forgot which one are very good.

[fair flame]

with the rebalance they got they are usefull. just some more so than others for gimicks

[mild cypress]

To the MR points?

[restive warren]

Yes.

[fair flame]

cyrota is fun as its a lingering cryo grnade lancher

[restive warren]

I went to check for you. It's on the wiki

The prisma and the prime weapon for Shade are both useful is all I'm remembering

You can safely delete non-prime that has prime version tho

[mild cypress]

Of course it is! Lol. Sorry, was invested in the convo so I just asking away

[fair flame]

prisma burst rifle is amazing if you want the most damage out of ability mods for pets that scale off damage mods

[mild cypress]

Definitely will do this after, I also just figured out that the weapon slot take away companion slot as well

[restive warren]

I wish if you owned Prisma shade you could use it as a skin on the prime version, because the stat on Prime Shade much better :( but I prefer prisma look

[fair flame]

this a good mod to boost its damage as the amount of shuilds gained is based off its damagew

[pearl parcel]

hey ezel, i have a question

why must bungo keep everything i enjoy from me

[mild cypress]

I see! Will also check this out. Got shade prime but I found helstrum is better primer in my build somehow.

[restive warren]

The one on Nautilus prime is good too

[mild cypress]

It does look a lot more sleek

[restive warren]

I keep forgetting name of sentinel weapon 😭

[mild cypress]

Nautilus one is verglas

[fair flame]

don't forget about the Batoten

[pearl parcel]

im going to bed, night guys

[fair flame]

and Multron

[restive warren]

Only hounds can use that one

[fair flame]

are you sure about that.

[lyric lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/big-bird-door-gif-23823638

[restive warren]

[restive warren]

I think there's was a misunderstanding, last time I checked I can't equip hounds weapons on sentinel.

[mild cypress]

I have excess standing. Might as well get every sentinel weapon

[mild cypress]

I think sentinel weapon is possible in hound but not another way around

[restive warren]

Yes that's what I was saying before hence my confusion

[fair flame]

you might be right

kath you might have to try it and find out

[restive warren]

huh?

Find out what

I just wanna play TFD I'm peace man, and not spend my life on the wiki 😭

I'm prob forgetting some type of sentinel weapons

To be fair I'm not a sentinel enjoyer

[fair flame]

not like im trying to gaslight you useing an old bug repport image

[restive warren]

Carrier is the reason why I hate sentinels

[sudden tendon]

play TFD💔

[restive warren]

Warframe doesn't give me my boss fight fix :(

[lyric lotus]

what is TFD

[restive warren]

And I'm out of stuff to farm

:( I have like a few handful of things left to farm and I'm just gonna burn myself out if I just repeatedly do those things

[sudden tendon]

last time i played the bosses were just bullet sponges

but i get what u mean

[coarse escarp]

What is the best Endo and credit farm right now??

[restive warren]

I mean as long as you're geared up yeah.

But I remember the struggle of 4 idiots having no idea how to do Frostwalker and Gluttony

[sudden tendon]

i only played till the first boss fight

[restive warren]

[sudden tendon]

and after 15 mins of shooting the guy i got bored and stopped playing

[restive warren]

Grave walker is a joke

[lyric lotus]

big knees

[restive warren]

🦀 dancing with Frost Walker be like 🦀

So glad he sits down so I can hammer his knees in now

[lyric lotus]

[restive warren]

Trying to shoot a crab while it's crab dancing is really obnoxious 0/10 I would hit it with my car again

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-rave-dancing-dancing-crab-gif-16543314

[lyric lotus]

leave the crabs alone

[restive warren]

Tell that to the devs 😭

We have all the elemental crabs

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/crabs-rave-crab-crab-rave-monstercat-gif-12505997

[lyric lotus]

problem for me with TFD bosses are not the difficulty, they are just reskinned verision of each other with a new gimmick\

[restive warren]

Yeeeeeeeeeeah

Crab and tall man has been reskinned so many time I don't even know what to do with 'em anymore

Only the devs knows. :(

[lyric lotus]

kinda lazy work ngl.

[restive warren]

They just keep adding more crabs, stop it, get some help. and when I say get some help, don't get crab smh

[lyric lotus]

i liked the second boss who never seen any other version of it

[restive warren]

Hanged man and Death stalker sticks out like sore thumbs dude to all the other one got put in the 3d printer

[lyric lotus]

hangned man is fun no matter what everyone says about it

[restive warren]

Stunning Beauty? There's dead bride.

[lyric lotus]

has a so small gimmik which makes everything even more fun :p

[restive warren]

And I think we gonna get a Void Abyss boss that's gonna be cold and... P much Dead bride on steroid is my guess, I hope they prove me wrong

I don't need Dead bride 2.0

Only weak point I can reliably pop is her shoulders

[lyric lotus]

dead bride is dmg check...nothing else matter on that fight if you have like million dmg per sec

[restive warren]

The rest is a screaming match with the damn knees and me telling my teammates to get the fudge out of dodge when she tps.

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/corpse-bride-gif-13202183069714055436

[restive warren]

To be fair they all are.

[lyric lotus]

same goes for pyro as well...that fella has like trillions of health

[restive warren]

You have 15m to get your head out of your a, but at least the main issue now isn't the dps but when some mechanics are forced on you and people running around like a chicken w/ a head

[lyric lotus]

which reminds me how poe2's bosses are...have split sec build and do bosseses in sec. :v

[restive warren]

You can do that too

Solo in TFD

Solo is a joke, but public it's like ... everyone is sharing the 1 braincell

[lyric lotus]

everyone = thinking the other person has better build then me :v

[restive warren]

I just leave when I see a Gley climb up Death stalker's a

Yeah nope. Not doing this.

[lyric lotus]

TFD would be interesting if they let the bosses roam into the openworld

[restive warren]

Or a unleveled bunny and I'm just noping out too

[restive warren]

Apparently next big update.

[lyric lotus]

well...might jump into check then :v

[restive warren]

As long as you have right rolls on external components and reactor you can buff them to max now

[lyric lotus]

i stopped...at the end of first season of the game

[restive warren]

So you can skip 75% of the headache farming gear used to be

[lyric lotus]

have no idea what they put there anymore

[restive warren]

I'm glad you didn't see disaster of second season. I actually cried because of the grind and I like mindless grind.

Unfortunate I skipped Valby stuff because of that bs

They were in the middle of adding QoL but I was done at the time

Also they crippled valby recently by removing the vacuum

[lyric lotus]

sounds like they just sucks the fun out

[restive warren]

[lyric lotus]

....

[restive warren]

I see what you did there, good one

[lyric lotus]

[restive warren]

Someone give her lasagna

[median topaz]

she should be drinking from a Corpus helmet

[fathom cipher]

got a good roll on a weapon ive never seen used 😭

[median topaz]

oh wow that is a good roll

[fathom cipher]

i just opened it

[sudden tendon]

sell it to some collector

0 roll godrolls are sought after i think

[fathom cipher]

u underestimate my impatience

[median topaz]

that's worth a few thousand plat as a genuine godroll

[fathom cipher]

u gotta help me then

[sudden tendon]

im not the guy to ask

i dont do rivens😭

[fathom cipher]

theres prolly like 1 person in the world that wants this ting

[fathom cipher]

u think i do? 😭 ive only ever sold one riven and it was a magi riv

[sudden tendon]

maybe its the chinese collectors that buy it

[sudden tendon]

idk man

[fathom cipher]

i dont wanna lvl the riven

0 roll is p funny tho

[sudden tendon]

yeah that makes it more valuable

[fathom cipher]

lookin for someone buyin unrolls rn then

[lyric lotus]

you unrolled?

[fathom cipher]

i asked in the trade chat and got flooded with msgs tryna help me lol

[fathom cipher]

got an unrolled godroll but for some crappy weapon

[sudden tendon]

those are 100% scammers

[restive warren]

Prob trying to get a cut.

[sudden tendon]

people dont help on trade chat for no reason

[fathom cipher]

nah they dont wanna buy

or have their friend buy

[restive warren]

Nope but they prob wanna cut for helping.

[fathom cipher]

nah they aint helpin like that

[restive warren]

Are you 100% sure?

[fathom cipher]

all i asked was how much someone would possibly be willing to pay for it and they just spat out some numbers and said gn

[sudden tendon]

wtf thats weird

[restive warren]

It is a bit weird.

[fathom cipher]

ik i was expecting a flood of scammers

ill be on the lookout

[restive warren]

Is that helping

[fathom cipher]

dunno

[lyric lotus]

i need a new phone

is 3310 still available in the market?

[fathom cipher]

does the galvacord want heavy attack efficiency?

[median topaz]

nah

[restive warren]

Isn't it a whip

[median topaz]

heavy attack efficiency is how much combo gets drained when you use a heavy attack

nine times out of ten, that's "all of your combo"

[restive warren]

My monke brain can't even remember what it is

[sudden tendon]

if its not a glaive or hammer no

[fathom cipher]

yesh its a whip

[lyric lotus]

it's a whip like khora's but from temu

[fathom cipher]

i just need 400k ish more creds and i can nab a melee dupe prolly

plat and creds go bye bye agan

[acoustic merlin]

Should i spend creds on mods or materials?

[fathom cipher]

wdym materials

[coarse escarp]

So no one knows what the best endo farm is right now huh?

I recently got chroma so I need some suggestions please

[sudden tendon]

melee dupe is mid outside of some specific builds

[fathom cipher]

zaw.

[acoustic merlin]

Like nidain extract, kuva or the Orokin Catalyst/reactor

[fathom cipher]

ohhh u mean the nightwave creds

[acoustic merlin]

I think those are materials for crafting stuff no?

[sudden tendon]

ah right ur a zaw fan

[sudden tendon]

nitain extract can only be reliably farmed from this so

id get that one over others

[fathom cipher]

for the most part u should prolly have a lil stash of nitain for crafting since u can pretty much only get nitain from nightwave, but u can buy the reactors and catalysts as needed ngl

[sudden tendon]

arena is the best endo farm

[fair flame]

Kath. Give me a random Kath quote

[coarse escarp]

Arena???

[coarse escarp]

Rathuum on Sedna?

[fathom cipher]

i want one too

[restive warren]

How unhinged?

Because the only one people saved in a channel are v unhinged and absolutely out of pocket

And without context they are all horrible

I regret looking in that channel

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/rexxar-hots-heroes-of-the-storm-smash-power-mad-gif-17761364

[sudden tendon]

yeah theres a specific setup for it tho

[fathom cipher]

those first 2 are a little scary

[restive warren]

Don'tchu need a full group too or somethin'

[sudden tendon]

i think like 2 or 3

idk never done it before

[restive warren]

If you're stressed out enough and enough sleep fudged some people can hear thing. Or it's something about blood pressure, I ain't 100% sure

[fathom cipher]

thanks

ok i need 300k more creds woop woop

[restive warren]

Almost done with nightwave?

[fathom cipher]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

workin on it 😭

ok more rolling rabvee riv yipee

i cant believe how unlucky my rabvee rolls are. im at 105 rolls holy

[restive warren]

Your riven dodging good rolls like:

[tender perch]

What's up, stinky chat

[fathom cipher]

yeah wow im at 113 rolls

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-dodge-gif-22809594

[tender perch]

Try 145 💔

I'm really sniffing around for that g-roll Stahlta

[fathom cipher]

most rolls ive ever rolled on a riven was 400 and it was a magistar riv that i eventually sold

im still holding on to my current magistar riv, but i think the possibility of a nerf scared everyone off

[tender perch]

I have two stahlta rivens cause I eas desperate and bought another one

I use neither for my build

[restive warren]

😭

[tender perch]

💔

[fathom cipher]

anyone want a sibear riv lol

yeah idk what imma do abt my godroll 0 rolls riven for that damn galvacord. no one wants the thing

[fathom cipher]

slight issue

[restive warren]

[tender perch]

I'm doing no better

But Daddy needs that Nitain Extract

[fathom cipher]

i only have 15 nitain extract 😎

do bounties count as missions?

[restive warren]

I'm... Not sure, you'd have to keep an eye if you got bounty act

I forgot to check when I was doing it for mine x_x

[fathom cipher]

when does nightwave end again?

how much time do i have

u think i can complete the nightwave still?

oh may 21

shoot

im tier 25 rn

ill prolly? be fine?

[tender perch]

Maybe. Either way...I want that Xaku skin

I'm going to bed. Goodnight, my pretties.

[sick yarrow]

Does the Dual Coda Torxica replace anything in Duviri? Or is that just it's own standalone thing?

[keen shard]

What is imprint

[fathom cipher]

gn buddy

[frail tree]

lol

[sinful granite]

Missing seven copies of Archon Flow

[coarse escarp]

Wait what-

[lyric lotus]

i hear crickets craclking all day every day 24/7 (tinnitus).

[restive warren]

Tiny snail screaming, trust

[sudden tendon]

theres a discord u can join with the info

[lyric lotus]

feels sleepery

Also - @restive warren

[ember saffron]

Gloom Garuda is very good. Best candidate for it tbh.

[keen shard]

Hey guys is there any other to get panzer than catching it directly

Can I trade it

[restive warren]

😭 My Banshee is not good

[weary crag]

Ohayo guys i'm new ,wassup?

[lyric lotus]

banshee who?

[restive warren]

I use gloom on her

I can't rely on her 4 to slow 💀

[keen shard]

Somebody pls help

[forest solar]

So a friend has a cowrdly lich. they get the success first gold stab and it vanishes like its a failure and when i saw their successes they had 2 gold in one of the rows. why is it running like it was a fail stab?

[lyric lotus]

that means your banshee is "Gloomshee"

[lyric lotus]

bugged, or didn't have the requiem mod slotted correctly

[fathom cipher]

i dont need gloom but nourish is too nice 😩

[lyric lotus]

stay with Mirage

[fathom cipher]

mirage i dont use nourish tbf

but her abilities are hilariously cheap

[lyric lotus]

I don't remember which frae i have with nourish or gloom subsumed

i play too much xaku and khora

[fathom cipher]

oh crap i still need to grab omamori

i hate shrine defense 😭

[forest solar]

they do. i was looking at it on stream

[lyric lotus]

Probably bugged then

[forest solar]

i guess i'll trade them an omni card

yea their attempts side bar is in gold not red

[restive warren]

Yeah

[forest solar]

Even the omni one made the first stab fail

[lyric lotus]

don't sound like a bug to me honestly more like the mod order in the parazon is messed up

[fathom cipher]

ok acquired melee duplicate

[lyric lotus]

now sell it for credit

[fathom cipher]

hahahaha. no c:

[lyric lotus]

do it.

[fathom cipher]

now im back to square 1 on creds and plat again tho

[lyric lotus]

see you need credit, so sell it

[forest solar]

yea their kuva lich is broken. I told them to report it.

[fathom cipher]

my shadow stalker didnt drop anything

[worldly bough]

Which to keep? Ahhhh

[late vessel]

Is stealth adaro still the best method to lvl up stuff?

[vale falcon]

For warframes and archwing, plains of eidolon sky sniping is usually a really fast method, you can probably get those fully leveled in a minute or 2 once you get good enough at it, 10 min maximum

Nataruk or a sniper can be used, outside steel path too with similar speed

[last ice]

can someone anwser this?
bringing all 3 weapons with unleveled frame would mean to get the affinity/exp distributed all 3 weapons AND frame right? (solo gameplay not talkin about shared other player kill exp)

so bringing 1 weapon is more benficial for reaching max rank right

[pseudo forge]

solo only shares between frame and the weapon you're actively using, so no difference between 1 weapon or 3 afaik
and general affinity like from objectives is 25% to frame and 75% split between other equipment so

[late vessel]

Thx is there a yt guide somewhere for a route?

[vale falcon]

Yeah there's tons out there, if you don't like this guide I'm posting, just search "plains of eidolon leveling"
https://youtu.be/V2hhZyWZZEA?si=EIidBCW9JZvQR1eM

[late vessel]

Thx

Oh right what about weapon tho?

[vale falcon]

Any bow or sniper will work

[late vessel]

No i mean for lvling weapon

[vale falcon]

Oh for weapon, I just get carried in elite sanctuary onslaught tbh, don't really bother with trying to learn for that

[pseudo forge]

helene on saturn or so/eso yeah
helene mostly for decent levelling + orokin cell drops

[karmic loom]

Wait chat so which is it ? Im currently drip maxing my kubrow build so ive been hatching one every single day i get them to r30 then consign ? Am i wasting my time going for mr im so confused rn

Like when i get a specific breed to rank 30 it shows me the mastered symbol and all

[dry thunder]

There are five(?) kubrows so you'll only get 30k mastery total from that

[karmic loom]

Yeah but i do get mr and no need to gild them innit ? Thats the part that confuses me

[dry thunder]

You don't need to gild hatched companions

Only need to gild ones you assemble, like vulpaphylas and hounds

[karmic loom]

Cheers thank for the answer have a good m8

[versed sequoia]

why are their health bars like this? what does it do

I've noticed that they are easier to kill and it happens after a certain ability is cast but that's it

[daring parrot]

means they are more vulerable to damage

[versed sequoia]

is it because of one of nova's abilities?

[daring parrot]

her 4 grants damage vulnerabilty to enemies

[native condor]

I am here in this discord today simply to drop an idea.
To fix the goofiness of the animal companions suddenly growing super size to grapple with an enemy, why not have them do specific take downs? The Kubrow would jump and go for the neck, shaking their prey for an example.

Imagine, you're in orb valis fighting the good fight and suddenly, a kubradon suddenly gives you the chewtoy treatment. Their details say they are terrifying to encounter and a hard fight, give them that.
Imagine, you're a grineer minding you're own business and suddenly a Kavat appears and jumps on your back, tearing all around your shoulders, back and face with its teeth and claws and the weight tugging your skin.
I'll let y'all do the thinking on the Vulpafylas, as they are infested and probably can do more scifi nasty stuff to their prey.

I would love to see the animal companions actually be terrifying and during conservation work. Would give it a nice change.

I want to see my baby, Sherbet rip someone's throat out in this very grimdark game.

I was also sent to the wrong discord (I'm in too many) where they claimed it to be the official Warframe server, and the description for the discord link also claims to be official, so I'm confused lmao.

[sweet apex]

This is the official server. Only the official server gives you the joy of Alexis!

[pseudo forge]

this is the official discord, the other is the community one
and i hear nothing but horror stories about the other one lol
as for your idea, it sounds cool in concept !

[late vessel]

Is glaxion similar to phantasma?

[thin lotus]

How does shock trooper buff weapons that already have elec?

[pseudo forge]

both beam weapons, glaxion has longer range i think?

[late vessel]

Full on status weapon minimal crit?

[pseudo forge]

pretty much i think

[sudden tendon]

The shock trooper bonus is multiplied by the weapons elec dmg

[thin lotus]

then would it be better to take this off?

[sudden tendon]

No its better to have elec on it

[sudden tendon]

Btw ur much better chance of this being seen by a dev on the warframe forums

[native condor]

We were all talking about the companions and the other day and doing conservation work and it got brought up. It would make them feel very fresh and give the conservation work an actual challenge if they were an actual threat to you. Or just jumping you mid fight.
We were all laughing at our Kubrow that would grow like 4 feet in size to fight with grineer and just kept building to it.
Someone would have to chime in for the robot dogs, as I haven't really gotten to see them in action yet.

[thin lotus]

Why?

[sudden tendon]

.

[thin lotus]

how is it added without the weapons elec?

[sudden tendon]

Just like adding an elec mod on

[thin lotus]

I may be dumb... would that mean 50% multiplied by the 100% shock trooper? And without a elec mod its just 100% right off the bat?

[sudden tendon]

Yes

Idk what u mean by right off the bat tho

[thin lotus]

My riven adds 50% elec so with shock trooper (+100%) it turns into 100% but without a elec mod it adds just 100%

But if my shock trooper adds 200% then the 50% from the riv turns into 150% and without the riv its 200%?

[thin lotus]

I am confused if I should keep the riv on

[sudden tendon]

Why would it go down with ur riven

[thin lotus]

Cuz I don't understand mods I guess

IDK how to explain

[sudden tendon]

So if u multiply it by 1.5 and 2 thats more than just multiplying it by 2

[pearl parcel]

good morning eve

[vale falcon]

Hey hey how's it going?

[pearl parcel]

tiring

[thin lotus]

I guess I should ask how does it multiply? Cuz I know if you add Shocking touch 90% elec and voltaic strike 60% they don't multiply but add together to 150% elec so base dmg of 200 would earn you 300 elec and a total of 500 dmg

[sudden tendon]

It should just multiply like how base dmg multiplies with other sources of dmg

[thin lotus]

So shock trooper adds together with the other elec to multiply off the base dmg?

Not multiply off the other elec

[sudden tendon]

No shock trooper multiplies with the other elec mods im just saying that as an example

[thin lotus]

uh...

[vale falcon]

For how it currently works overall is below from patch notes

Elemental Damage from the Thermal Transfer and Valence Formation Augments will now be added parallel to your weapon’s Elemental Damage, instead of creating Combined Elemental Damage types.

This implies to me that it's addivitive to the elemental, but I could see it being a multiplicative bonus instead

[sudden tendon]

Its only a shocktrooper thing

[thin lotus]

I ask cuz my rivs 50% elec and he says shock trooper multiplied off the weapons elec... so that would mean with a base dmg of 100 my riven of 50% elec and a shock trooper of 200% I think I would lose dmg

its would mean I get 50 elec times 200%

[vale falcon]

You got simulacrum? Could always equip both of and only those if you have shock trooper to test it out

[thin lotus]

but without the 50 elec shock trooper acts like a mod 100 base dmg + 200% elec from shock trooper

[vale falcon]

Or just go into an infested mission, and harm non disruptors

[thin lotus]

I will

Ok against a corrupted heavy gunner SP lvl 210 with a unmodded praedos and 322% shock trooper I do 94 dmg and after adding voltaic strike its 106

[vale falcon]

It's an addivitive bonus in that case, as if they were multiplicative it would end up being around 150

[vapid vessel]

which one is better? i dont use torid so idk

[vale falcon]

Left and keep rolling

[vapid vessel]

okay

[thin lotus]

I like right TBH

[vale falcon]

Crit stats and multishot are best

[thin lotus]

They both do dmg and torid has no use got mag cap in incarnon plus it already has tox

[pearl parcel]

hows it going for you

[thin lotus]

weapon recoil better then nothing and dmg to grinner is meh it comes down to if you can stand the reload speed or not

[vale falcon]

It's going alright, exam period starts next week for me

[coarse escarp]

Ooh can I get that discord please?

[pearl parcel]

exams are this week, and a stupid teacher is doing stupid stuff during finals week

my capstone presentation starts at 6pm, but we're being required to turn up at 4:30 to watch unrelated classes present their final projects

[vale falcon]

That -reload is exactly why I prefer the left, it's got a long enough one as is, with 5 shots before reloading

[vale falcon]

That's something I'm glad I'll never need to do, presenting stuff horrifies me, nevermind to a large group of ppl

[pearl parcel]

its easier when you fully understand that the large group of people is stupid

[vale falcon]

It could be basic stuff and I'd still be horrified to do it

[vapid vessel]

how do u go invisible with octavia? i keep doing it but dk how lol

[vale falcon]

Crouch to the beat of the 3rd ability

[pearl parcel]

still, when you know the people and understand that they're tired and ready to go home, and probably arent even paying attention, its easier

[vale falcon]

Eh maybe

[vapid vessel]

like literally

thats so funny lol

[vale falcon]

Yup, that's it, shooting and jumping to that same beat give other bonuses

[pearl parcel]

it'd be funny if increasing intensity ramps up the BPM but increases the bonuses

god or if you could upload your own songs, it'd be so fun to blast with akvastos to big iron

[pure gulch]

you can make your own songs

[pearl parcel]

yeah but im not a musician

[vale falcon]

You can customise it a lot to be fair, the amount of stuff ppl have recreated with it is large

[pure gulch]

I saw a guy with martin garrix animals once

[pearl parcel]

let me plug in some jason aldean or longest johns

[vale falcon]

In the pinned messages of #share-mandachord-shawzin-songs there's a GitHub link that has a ton of fanmade mandachord stuff, which also allows you to copy over them too

[pearl parcel]

im disappointed that there isnt one for through the fire and flames

[vale falcon]

I typed only thr and it showed up there

[pearl parcel]

huh>

?*

[vale falcon]

It was in the misc. hard rock section

[pearl parcel]

i will be god damned

[vale falcon]

You can just copy the song code into the mandachord import and you can add it directly into the game
Since you're on PC

[pearl parcel]

i might reinstall solely to sit down mid mission and play big iron

[brisk copper]

man this weeks archimedia is HORRIBLE
enemies explode into corrosive clouds, they also of course spread gas clouds and for some reason theres either new or so enemy that hangs you? similary to greneer`s captain who teleports you but this is worse he just lifts you in place, and dont give me started on FAT MOBS THAT SPAM THE GREEN GOO AT MINIGUN RATE WTH DE

dont give me started on frames u get to choose that are squishy as hell

ugh

[vale falcon]

I think it's time for you to learn shield gating if you don't want to die as much, get those augur mods or brief respite equipped, and click an ability during the immunity time of shield breaking, you'll gain the shield back and reset the immunity, arcane aegis helps further by setting shield regen delay to 0s when it procs

And aegis can be at any rank

[brisk copper]

ugh i dont like this cheesy trend but okay i guess

[vale falcon]

You could probably equip just aegis tbh, as that's what is doing the majority of the heavy lifting here, augur and brief are just for consistency

[pearl parcel]

also consider using energy regen mods for brief respite to be used more often

[vale falcon]

This is true actually, or just any regen method in general, like the energy pizzas, energise, and wellspring as non mod options

[brisk copper]

yea i have mythic barrier to back it up

[pearl parcel]

i like the aura mod that gives energy regeneration

[vale falcon]

Energy siphon is a decent one, helps the whole team out too

[pearl parcel]

or energize the mod, whatever its called

i think its just called energize

[vale falcon]

Energy nexus for the non aura mod, 3 pre sec

[pearl parcel]

yes, thank you

[vale falcon]

I have no clue why I remember that so well tbh

[pearl parcel]

i quit when the encore came out, i got tired of the mr locks being perpetually higher

[devout burrow]

energy regen mods are pretty eh if you dont have nourish

equilibrium or even energize atp is more reliable

[vale falcon]

I think they probably won't increase the highest mastery requirement again for a while, as the last new increase was in 2021 with the tenet weapon shop at ergo glast

[devout burrow]

I wouldnt mind tbh

hell make weapons require MR30 so I have good reasons to grind to 30

[vale falcon]

There would be quite a few who'd quit if that happened imo

[brisk copper]

i also noticed a weird thing that is nullstar in this week`s archimedia just.. turns off?

i put nullstar onto a Flar`s ult place and was using it and noticed it was going from 30 to 0 in an instant even when there were no mobs near

[pearl parcel]

im still really tired of mr requirements rising because the weapons are all lame fodder, a solid 90% of them are useless and generico garbage

[devout burrow]

so why care if you dont like em anyway

[pearl parcel]

drascho, read

read what i actually said,

because 90% of the weapons are useless and generico garbage
that bit right there

[brisk copper]

90% is exaggeration but plenty of weapons just underperforms and only are somewhat viable if you spent lots of recources to it

[pearl parcel]

my problem is that the weapons are lame and nothing but fodder, you need to make dozens solely to level and you'll throw the vastest majority of them away the moment they hit level 30

[brisk copper]

well DE does make augments for weapons to change them or arcanes that emps the damage and performance

[pearl parcel]

that isnt my point

my point is taht the weapons are lame, they're all the exact same with the exception of like 20 long guns, maybe

[brisk copper]

perfect example of arcane boosting weapons is of course the shotgun vendeta

[brisk copper]

oh u mean quirkiness?

like unique ways of shooting

[pearl parcel]

i mean uniqueness, look at the weapons list on teh wiki

90% of them are autorifle autorifle autorifle, minor stat changes, maybe a reload gimmick if you're lucky

[brisk copper]

its funny im quite opposite

i like it simple

[pearl parcel]

theres a wall of useless weapons taht are all the exact same, and you gotta make dozens of them to mr up

[brisk copper]

my problem is that if the gun is unique its just weak

[pearl parcel]

this is my problem
autorifleautorifleautorifle oooh it shoots rockets autorifleautorifle autorifle

[brisk copper]

some guns are fun they just need so much effort to be viable

[sullen ginkgo]

I do like the accessibility a low Mr bro can get. Like they're not locked out of stuff. Just daily rank cap

[brisk copper]

dude i hate daily rank cap

oh my god

[devout burrow]

most have unique mechanics that make building around them fun

[pearl parcel]

no they dont, and for the fifth time in two days, dont ping me

[sullen ginkgo]

I'm Mr 22 and I kind of gave up on Mr grind. Need so many weapons. Don't have the resources and grinding for resources is boring for me

[devout burrow]

eh, I cba to turn ping off, too much work

[pearl parcel]

then im not even gonna bother talking to you

[brisk copper]

imagine yre like 500 points away from ranking up in some syndicate

ugh

[coarse escarp]

Yikes

Been there

[sullen ginkgo]

Yea same but it's a good tradeoff imo.

[devout burrow]

ok, keep getting offended over pings ig????

[brisk copper]

i think it should be cap for missions that give u rep not the stuff you give for rep

[coarse escarp]

Is there still a market for rare fish in Warframe

[brisk copper]

kinda cute and funny imo

[coarse escarp]

Someone told me that and I thought it was insane

[sullen ginkgo]

Hmm yea I guess. Means saving up will be worth it

[pearl parcel]

this is also my point
a wall of weapons, they're all reskins with minor stat changes

[coarse escarp]

Um-

[brisk copper]

cute because people put effort into fishing and spending time on plains, talking to people in trade chat with other newbies

[sullen ginkgo]

Yea lot of these weapons are just Mr fodder

[devout burrow]

they also have different mechanics, almost if they are the same weapon class or smth
like what

[pearl parcel]

hmmm, its almost as if

thats my exact point

[coarse escarp]

Oh so they still do it? But do people actually invest in this sort of thing?

[brisk copper]

im still keeping all weak and unique guns so when DE gives them augments or something like incarnon i dont have to wait 24h to craft them

[sullen ginkgo]

I'm with u on not making new guns be locked to high Mr requirements.

[brisk copper]

i see it time to time

[pearl parcel]

finally someone with sense

[brisk copper]

on mars

[coarse escarp]

Ah gotcha

[brisk copper]

i meant the Meru

[pearl parcel]

i wouldnt even mind mr requirements if mr wasnt tied to mindlessly crafting and levelling weapons, not actually doing anything

tie mr to feats, achievements, ingame xp, something other than just mr fodder guns

[brisk copper]

also didnt work, ive done lots of stuff for shieldgating but nah

[brisk copper]

yea some prisma guns having MR restrictions is just stupid

i dont understand why we even have MR restrictions to begin with

[pearl parcel]

not even prisma guns, tons of guns have obscene mr requirements for no reason

mr 17 for coda weapons
when no other lich weapon has mr requirements
and you can do codas before mr 17

[brisk copper]

im saying prisma cuz theyre the easiest ones to get as newbie cuz u can access void missions early

[pearl parcel]

you dont need to keep pinging me sanders

im right here

[vale falcon]

Ok that's definitely not good, idk what could be done in that case tbh, usually shield gating works out,

[brisk copper]

ill just turn off ping

[pearl parcel]

thank you

[sullen ginkgo]

But you can access the the 1999 immediately as a new player right?

[sinful granite]

No

[brisk copper]

it kinda works but not as tanky as i one espect

[sinful granite]

You need to complete basically all of the main story to access 1999

[pearl parcel]

no its after new war, but even playing incredibly slow im only mr 14 or 15 and 1999 is done, power plant redux and all

i can participate in level cap activities with my nataruk build, i can grind arcanes and make bank with rivens, but i cant buy coda weapons? laaaaaame

[brisk copper]

i still dont get why we have MR restrictons to begin with

[pearl parcel]

its also the fact that
they dont inform you its mr 17 until you've killed the lich and look in the shop

[pearl parcel]

this as well honestly

[brisk copper]

they think its horrible that a baby get a hold of nitrogen bomb or smth?

[deft eagle]

Probably an old system from the old days that they did not want to rework

[brisk copper]

perhaps too much coding work in that case? idk never coded

[pearl parcel]

its more code to check MR

[brisk copper]

i get the restriction for quest reasons

but stuff that u are already available to get but cant equip?

weird

[pearl parcel]

i htink weapons should be quest/knowledge locked, if you can get the resources you can get the weapon

[sinful granite]

It's because the MR system is what keeps you grinding

[brisk copper]

exactly
or maybe when you did the quest

[sullen ginkgo]

Yea it's a grind thing. Tho it's boring as hell

[brisk copper]

but u already grind the rep for syndicate to get it, it makes no sense

[sullen ginkgo]

Like should definitely be other ways to get mr.

[sinful granite]

It makes no sense-

[pearl parcel]

weapons are what keeps you grinding, i want to play the game not wait on weaponry to craft, level it, then throw it away, ad infinitum

[sinful granite]

Wha

[sullen ginkgo]

Conclave.....lol

[brisk copper]

whole game lol

[brisk copper]

oh crap i forgot that exists lmao

[sinful granite]

Smh

This is how all MMOs work

[pearl parcel]

i want to play with new kit, i want to test builds, i want to do things, not make things

[pearl parcel]

dont even try that excuse, there are plenty of MMO's that tie levelling to doing stuff not making weapons

[brisk copper]

me at pc parts store be like

[pearl parcel]

me at the blacksmiths shop

[sinful granite]

The highest mastery lock for things before coda stuff was MR16

Now it's been raised to MR17 for exclusively coda weapons
The newest gear from the newest mainline update

I ain't seeing anything wrong with it

[vale falcon]

For the larger stuff I'd agree, but there are more than a few that don't have it, but restrict gear instead by progression means or something else
Definitely rare to see 0 restrictions on unlocking gear

[pearl parcel]

1. dont ping me
2. the mr requirements keep rising
3. you are missing the entire point that the mr system is flawed in how you obtain it

im tired of weapons being how you progress when 90% of the weapons are generico garbage that you toss the moment you're done with it

[sinful granite]

The MR requirement keeps rising as more stuff keeps getting added that let's you get higher MR? Yeah.

[pearl parcel]

Dont ping me

illiterate scheisse

[sinful granite]

You wanna get reported for insulting me in German?

[pearl parcel]

and once again,

you are ignoring the main point i have flatly reiterated four times

im tired of weapons being how you progress when 90% of the weapons are generico garbage that you toss the moment you're done with it
read that bit right there

90% of the weapons are generico garbage
that bit specifically

[sinful granite]

And?

What's the other option?

Tripling MR gain from all other sources and removing MR lock and gain from weapons?

[pearl parcel]

yes

or tie MR to ingame experience, feats, quests, something other than just weapons

they do have a whole feats/achievements system

[sinful granite]

Which is 90% just "look I did basic stuff in the game" and the other 10% is "wow, I hate k-drives even more now"

Meanwhile the current MR system is literally

"I have a high account level because I've aquired and used a lot of the gear available in the game"

Sure, I ain't against removing mastery bonuses for doing main quests or side quests from the codex.

But removing weapons from the MR progression system basically removes 80% of the reason for the MR progression system

[pearl parcel]

if they're going to make wepaons the focus, dont make weapons take an entire day to craft, dont make them take so many resources, make the weapons worth using/having afterwards

[sinful granite]

Any game will have basic "I will not even remember this exists" weapons and gear

Warframe is like 12 years old now?
Arsenal bloat is just a natural thing and outside of removing stuff from the game, it's hard to work away from it

[pearl parcel]

improve the old weapons
make them cheaper/faster
make hard to get weapons worth more MR than easy to get weapons
something to make the effort feel worth it, cause it doesnt matter if i spend an hour on a weapon or a day, its still only 300 mr

[sinful granite]

I'm sorry

You play the game to get resources and new gear, to then use those resources to make even more gear, to use that gear aquire more gear and resources.

What you said literally goes against the basic gameplay cycle of warframe.

The only thing I can agree with is that crafting times are way too long nowadays, for how much stuff is in the game.

[brisk copper]

okay real talk, why DE doesnt take the size of frames and angle of the camera when you aim down sights?

[sinful granite]

Because it's funny when I can't see what I'm shooting at

[brisk copper]

the amount of times my frame has so much on its shoulders i cant even see crosshair

[deft eagle]

You play the game to get resources and gear
I play the game by levelling and watching shows on my second monitor
We are not the same

[brisk copper]

playing atlas with a gun is impossible sometimes

[pearl parcel]

iplay this game to experiment with kit, find resources and hoard them for when i actually want to make something, etc.

i dont want to use a billion garbage weapons just to unlock a decent one or an interesting one

[brisk copper]

if you have shoulder armor that is a lil too big, good luck aiming

Flair`s shoulders are so big i cant see a thing

[sinful granite]

"I want to get all the gear I want ASAP and without spending too much time"

Mfw when people think Grindframe was just a joke

[deft eagle]

"Use a billion garbage weapons" you go in ESO for 2 minutes and you level them up then to the next one

[pearl parcel]

them repeatedly increasing crafting times, increasing material requirements, and increasing mr requirements is a slap in the face

[sinful granite]

They don't increase crafting times?

It's always been 12 - 24 hours for weapons

[brisk copper]

i dont mind the grind, in this case, the drop chance is the pain in the ass

[pearl parcel]

90% of the weapons are generico garbage
read this bit again
read it, look closely, observe what im saying

[brisk copper]

i still cant get Gespar blade i swear to god

[sinful granite]

Like at most you'll get a few crafting parts for weapons that take 12h themselves, but that's the exception

[brisk copper]

i only recently finally got final part of EOLAC GOD DAMIT

[sinful granite]

This literally boils down to:

"I only want to play with what I want and I don't want to have to work getting to it"

[brisk copper]

IVE PLAYED EVER SINCE IT WAS ADDED

[deft eagle]

My point still stands

[sinful granite]

Do you complain about endo cost for upgrading mods too?

[brisk copper]

i still dont have some guns that are behind stuff nobody plays or the drop rates are horrible

[pearl parcel]

it doesnt
the weapons are a waste of resources that will be disregarded the moment you're done with them
the weapons take an entire day to craft
if i want immediate access to something i already spent the resources on? i need to spend more resources

[sinful granite]

Or you just wait? Do smth else? Come back later?

[brisk copper]

or trade crap for plat and speed that st

[sinful granite]

Yeah or that?

[brisk copper]

ez

[pearl parcel]

this is the more resources i was talking about

[sinful granite]

Or use your paycheck to speed stuff up

[pearl parcel]

i sure as hell aint paying for gear i've already spent resources on to make

[brisk copper]

i think WFs grind system is not as bad as it seems

[sinful granite]

This is a "you" problem

[brisk copper]

theres much worse

much

worse

[pearl parcel]

but its aggravating, because the weapons dont matter

[sinful granite]

Because you don't like or use them?

Or because you just want the newest thing that looks the coolest to you

[brisk copper]

and i thought im exaggerating about frames being too thick and clutter crosshair

[pearl parcel]

take any given weapon, odds are good its fodder
take any given weapon, its another simple point and click lame gun, nothing that makes it interesting
take any given weapon, its probably useless and will be thrown away the moment its level 30

[sinful granite]

"Oh no, this 12 year old game with over 500 weapons has generic fodder design weapons that don't hold up to modern meta"

[brisk copper]

i like simple but decent guns

[pearl parcel]

bubonico? thats a cool gun
primed pyrana? thats a cool gun
the 30 generico assautl rifles? not cool, lame, and worthless aside from their ranking

[deft eagle]

Just get a torid + dual toxo + magistar

[sinful granite]

This man can't enjoy a good Karak

[brisk copper]

like berston incarnon

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[pearl parcel]

torid is fun, i like its cloud mechanic
veridico or whatevre the glassmakers sword is called, thats cool, glass mechanic
these weapons are interesting, useful, they have a purpose

[sinful granite]

Oh wait a moment

[brisk copper]

i prefer coda dualies or kuva nukor, ichores or strofa, they are imo much harder on meta dmg

[sinful granite]

Aren't you the Destiny guy?

[pearl parcel]

burston braton karak karak 2 karak 3 random shotgun 4 spearguns and variants therein? fodder and bloat

[sinful granite]

You just want everything to be an exotic

No wonder we're talking to a wall

[brisk copper]

wait wait wait burston = fodder?
buddy and i thought u redeemed yourself

[pearl parcel]

its an example, i personalyl dont like it but i know a lot of people think its fancy new alt fire is cool

[brisk copper]

burston incarnor is like top 3 guns in meta

[pearl parcel]

im listing off the generic auto rifles i remember

[sinful granite]

Yeah and you listed the Karak 3 times

[brisk copper]

i think without incarnon form its still good, and when you do the "holding click makes any gun autofire"

[pearl parcel]

i never screwed with its incarnon, i never liked burston

[sinful granite]

There's only 2 Karaks

You just don't have any decent arguments here

[pearl parcel]

yes, because there are like three different karaks that are all just reskins with slight stat changes

[pallid canyon]

"this thing ive never touched is overrated"

[brisk copper]

burston buffed with incarnon stats and without its form is very good, u can rail the crit chance over 250% and when u have autofire option in settings its insanely good

[pearl parcel]

i've used burston, never enjoyed it so i never screwed with its incarnon

[pallid canyon]

its the best Primary bullet hose in the game

[sinful granite]

Mfw the assault rifle weapon class has the stats and feel of assault rifles

[pearl parcel]

i like phage, bubonico, arca, the kitguns, these are unique, these are interesting, these are useful and not tiring

[brisk copper]

exactly u can even do the fire viral combo without needing fire mod for it

[brisk copper]

since when kitguns are actually unique, the combinations are unique but not the guns itself

[pearl parcel]

have you tried sporelacer primary/lovetap grip?

or The Throngler?

[brisk copper]

im a fan of rattlegats cuz its simply laser rifle with decent damage and u can put seeking arcane for aoe-ish trait

[brisk copper]

yes ive tried all that, those are decent

[sinful granite]

They look like shoddy blackmarket tech

But they're just

SMG
Mini-arca plasmor
Handcannon
Uhhh whatever else there is

[pearl parcel]

have you tried the laser head on a long gun grip with a pierce build?

[sinful granite]

Oh right

Secondary Phage

And Secondary Torid

[brisk copper]

my personal favorite aside of rattlegats is tencacles lol

[sinful granite]

Those kitguns exist too

[pearl parcel]

ye, The Throngler

[pallid canyon]

b-b-but i put it together so it must be unique!!!

[brisk copper]

im not good with names, i forget em a lots

[pearl parcel]

long gun tentacle gun with a pen and radiation build is hilarious

[brisk copper]

i like its crit chance and chain mechanic

its solid

[pearl parcel]

exactly, its unique, its fresh, it looks funny, its a warcrime in warcrime simulator and not another generic weapon

[brisk copper]

i wish we could grab kitguns into duviri circuit

[pearl parcel]

bubonico, a full auto shotgun with a mortar strike ability

[sinful granite]

Fresh?

My brother in void

Secondary phage came out like 4 years ago

[brisk copper]

i wish sporotic kitguns were a bit better, maybe im just bad at building em but for some reason they feel weak

[pearl parcel]

phage, funny beam
arca is arca, nuff said
the tenet weapons like diplos, literal smart pistols

[brisk copper]

i remember they did nerfed sporotic weapons back in the day

[pallid canyon]

Calling the arca fresh and unique is diabolical

[sinful granite]

The diplos are dual SMGs with a borderline useless smartgun feature tagged on

[pearl parcel]

it's a fireball cannon

[deft eagle]

Never heard someone ever like the torid as a grenade launcher, crazy shi

[brisk copper]

i dunno why it made me laugh so much

[sinful granite]

It ain't even a fireball

It's a plasma wave

[pearl parcel]

plasma is basically superhot fire numbnuts

thats literally what plasma is, a superheated material

[sinful granite]

The exergis with its regenerating crystal buckshot is far more unique

[sinful granite]

Also stop insulting people.

[pearl parcel]

another good example, exergis

[brisk copper]

i called my Katchmoon kitgun the proto arca plasmor

[pearl parcel]

mod exergis for pen and mag cap, now you have a 5 barrel blunderbuss

[pallid canyon]

oh boy this is NOT what plasma is

[brisk copper]

and secondary katchmoon i called arca jr.

[pallid canyon]

plasma is ionized gas

[brisk copper]

[pallid canyon]

making it supercharged

and thus conductive

[brisk copper]

i wish tombfinger didnt suck so much

[sinful granite]

I'm gonna call lightning "fire rods" now

Because plasma is a fireball

[pallid canyon]

it is NOT superheated material

[sinful granite]

The Amprex is a flamethrower by that definition

[pallid canyon]

Volt is the new ember

[sinful granite]

Gyre

[pearl parcel]

tombfinger primary built for pen and RoF is pretty funny

[sinful granite]

Also tombfinger secondary is literally just a bog-standard head-popper

[brisk copper]

I have tried to make it work but for some reason it just doesn't, the AOE is good but damage is just not there

maybe I need better riven stats

[pearl parcel]

did you try multishot/corrosive?

or multishot/blast radius/incendiary

[brisk copper]

yup I even tried fire viral combo

[pearl parcel]

mod it for slash viral lol

[brisk copper]

eh I'll try

[pearl parcel]

slashing viral throngler is actually really scary

i added on the radiation mod just because, it was horrifying

[brisk copper]

I called my tombfinger primary "Bramma Sucks"

[pallid canyon]

Modding for slash over heat in the big 2-5

[pearl parcel]

to be fair, bramma sucks

[sinful granite]

Bramma literally doesn't suck

[brisk copper]

exactly why I called it

[sinful granite]

Maybe try trigger discipline

[brisk copper]

damage is fine but the ammo economy is just not there

[pearl parcel]

you get maybe 6 or 10 arrows, and without a mutation mod you run out instnatly

[pallid canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-bait-jojo-jjba-jojo's-bizarre-adventure-gif-11159617522698492937

[brisk copper]

[pearl parcel]

even with a mutation mod you gotta think before you fire, not good for a horde shooter