gameplay-discussion

[pure gulch]

get ember as your most played in less than a year like me :D

[old olive]

I don't even know how liong I have to use Cyte to dethrone Limbo as my most used frame bruh DX

[restive warren]

🫡 I wish you good luck

[old olive]

thanks

so where do you think the story will take us next patches?

[timid berry]

[timid berry]

Hopefully tau

[rocky breach]

so sad my xaku stats are bugged, xp hasnt gone up in a year, will never see that sweet 999,999,999

[fathom cipher]

xaku menace wowie

[timid berry]

Why u awake?

[fathom cipher]

wdym

im awake yes

[rocky breach]

havent used xaku properly in months, been mainly on gyre, sevagoth, cyte binge
generally whatever invigoration lizzie gives will be my frames for the week

[fathom cipher]

me i just mirage mostly then branch out with nova, rhino, or someone else

[strong field]

How does one play mirage

[fathom cipher]

uhh number go boom?

[strong field]

But can she melee

[rocky breach]

mirage is actually nice since theres multiple ways to play

[fathom cipher]

thats the only thing i use on her lol

zaw mirage 😭🙏

[strong field]

[rocky breach]

can do disco ball mobile nuke, can do camping legerdemain
can do a multitude of weapons platforms

[strong field]

Idek if I still have contag arcane or not

[fathom cipher]

shield recharge zaw mirage is just so insanely powerful while being super easy to survive. shes insane

[fathom cipher]

ledgermain is yucky 🙆

[rocky breach]

made the 21 wave defense NW fast lol

[fathom cipher]

everything else is fair game tho lol. be a broken weapon platform or run around with the prism

[rocky breach]

a nice 12min run

[fathom cipher]

it did yup. i will admit that 😭

[strong field]

I think I'll just stick to nezha for now

[fathom cipher]

april first for me

i can say nezha is a girl

april fools

[strong field]

Always has been wym

:)

[fathom cipher]

mirage isnt my favorite frame

i just spilled ice water on my bed

😭

clock hit 12am and decided to fool me

[strong field]

Cold side of the pillow ❎
Cold side of the bed ✅

[fathom cipher]

its cold and soppy 😭

the lid of my waterbottle decided to pop off

[old olive]

gross

Anyway did you know wally can spawn on the ceiling when you put the totally normal chair on the ceiling?

[rocky breach]

huh, so its true, any valence which gets it to 58+, auto goes to 60, thats nice

[worldly bough]

Is there any mr30 plus players that I can inv to bless relay for affinity boost?

[rocky breach]

i remember when i was getting kuva/tenet stuff to 60, the occasional 59+ was annoying
so needs 52.8 to get to 60% in 1 valence
so motovore, sporothrix, hirudo, synapse all 60%, just 9 to go

[worldly bough]

Please

[timid berry]

Zaw

[strong field]

Nah im good

[fathom cipher]

zaw mirage 🤑❤️🙆🦹‍♂️

[strong field]

Something about building modular weapons turn me off

[timid berry]

Then u don't want to mirage

[timid berry]

U have issues kid😂❤️

[strong field]

Let me do nezha instead

[timid berry]

Who hurt u chirpy

Where did the zaw hurt u

[fathom cipher]

i just built one and thats it :p

[timid berry]

Crispy cosplay as mirage ur 18 bday

For 0 reason

[fathom cipher]

yeah sure dude my little filipino booty isnt fitting in fishnets 😭

[timid berry]

💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The internet has defeated me

[fathom cipher]

forgot that happened

the psf frame with psf equipped got pancaked

[timid berry]

Me falling for dagath

[fathom cipher]

im tryna see what other frames i would like using

[strong field]

Can we get a freakframe

[fathom cipher]

real

ig ill play more mag and then wait for voruna and yareli prime

mag is fun tho i cant lie

[timid berry]

Only if i can get deep into your archimedia

[strong field]

Brah

[fathom cipher]

wheres the psf smh

[strong field]

Bro cracked victoria's secret

[rocky breach]

gotta increase that dps

[fathom cipher]

oh im blind

im so used to seein psf in exilus lol

[rocky breach]

i should prob update the meme since i have an atlas build now

[timid berry]

Idk who hurt u

[fathom cipher]

this is peak bro

[timid berry]

Psf in a non exikus slot

Crispy go buy me arcane hotshot

[strong field]

I need saryn's skin ngl

I should play her again

[timid berry]

I need dagath to get a skin but thr community hates me

[strong field]

Same

(I hate you too /s)

[fathom cipher]

i have 0 plat

and 0 desire to grind for it

[timid berry]

😭

[timid berry]

[strong field]

[timid berry]

Chirpy i was gonna add u as a friend then I read ur profile

[fathom cipher]

uwooogh

[strong field]

https://tenor.com/view/nijika-ijichi-gif-27275507

[timid berry]

Bro read it😭

[fathom cipher]

ik he hasnt changed it in forever. its been that for awhile 😭

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159566087059419156/1323136011961766013/petpet.gif

[timid berry]

I never noticed

💀

[ornate frost]

i also read your profile
what coding in js did to a brother, christ

[strong field]

Never gon change it ong

[ornate frost]

should have stayed with python and C++ lolol

[timid berry]

I can't stand python

I rather get mauled by a bus

[fathom cipher]

im almost out of chapters 😔

[ornate frost]

well to me coding in js is also getting mauled by a bus but nekros is driving it so you don't even get to keep your corpse

[timid berry]

Hahahaha

[fathom cipher]

do zaw projectiles work with mag bubbles

[full jewel]

where can i do this?

[lyric lotus]

[fathom cipher]

i think tusk ballistas are in plains of eidolon?

[full jewel]

ok thx

[timid berry]

@lyric lotus come here you🫂

[rocky breach]

theyre the snipers on the top of the sniper outposts spread around cetus plains.
can either snipe from far away/archwing, or go invis and point blank (in archwing works too)
tusk ballista

[floral hollow]

guys im LR4 and short on orokin cells again how do i speed farm like 300

[rocky breach]

sounds like you bought/farmed a bunch of primes and are bulk cooking lol

[floral hollow]

yeah i have 25 prime weapons cooking rn

ill have xaku prime cooking when i stop being poor

[small solstice]

I guess passively farm them with survival void missions on ceres or Saturn?

[rocky breach]

you can go the boxbreaker route on SP saturn/ceres, capture or sabotage

[small solstice]

Otherwise you gotta go through ceres assassination like 200 times 💀

[rocky breach]

or you can do a darksector SP survival with a loot frame

actually yeah if you're LR4 you got the gear, just do lephantis or lech+vor

lephantis is 4 chances at cells per run (but its ~3min a run because of the timed encounter, pool diluted with neurodes so you could get 1-4 cells or 1-4 neurodes)
lech+vor / ruk is ~2min with a chance per boss and onl cells on the loot table

[small solstice]

Or 5 min when you don’t know what you need to do 😂

[solar halo]

Bold to assume LR4 has the gear for something

[full jewel]

how can i farm for a nikana stance?

[keen shore]

Doesn't that drop from the stalker

[floral hollow]

are the damageable points on lephantis counted as headshots for the purpose of mods/ incarnon stacking?

[rocky breach]

sadly no
you can cheese the top phase with an on call crewmate (with an aoe weapon)

and if you ever did the plague star event, can use whatever weapon you did for that lephantis copy

boar/pyrana/projectile aoes/etc

even base star chart lephantis/vor+krill/ruk should have a high chance, im just assuming SP bonus works on boss drops and you're geared enough to breeze through it on SP

[timid berry]

Sp version use mirage tbh

[fathom cipher]

zaw mirage one taps first phase then 2nd phase u should prolly use a gun lol. i brute forced it tho. not too bad tho still p fast

sp lephantis is just so tanky lol

imma try and sleep now. no more reading

[strong field]

Of all the years I been here this is the first time Im accused of never having played with melee influence

Truly an inspiring experience

[sudden tendon]

how tf do u accuse someone of never having played with something before

[cold sequoia]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN ITS THE ONE ANTIVIRUS MOD I DONT HAVE this is my 13th reason istg-

[timid berry]

Chirpy is weird just pretend he's sane

[strong field]

See at least tell me im weird or freaky

Because its true...!

[timid berry]

Thats why u have a gf....

💀😭🤣

[strong field]

They're in my walls or smth

[sudden tendon]

turn around

[strong field]

Which, I hope they're not. They mustve seen some nasty midnight activities if you know what I mean

[sudden tendon]

._.

[timid berry]

Bro I warned you I love my bro chirpy but ggs

[strong field]

Keep doing the bounties you'll get em eventually

Or you can sell copies and buy the one you need

[sudden tendon]

i spent 2 hours losing a 50/50 on those mods

[cold sequoia]

this happened with my last coda too,,, im jst very unlucky 💔 🥲

[full jewel]

i need a sniper to get this done but im only mr6 which one should i get?

i was planning on getting the vulkar

[rocky breach]

2 hrs is still less than getting the old requiems at least

[rocky breach]

if you have an invis frame/archwing you can use those
even a normal pistol/rifle works, you can snipe from archwing

or just on the ground from far away, as for stuff with scopes; vectis, vulkar, rubico are MR2/3/6

[full jewel]

i dont do enough dmg to use an ar or pistol

[unique umbra]

how do you not do like 1k damage

[full jewel]

i tried sneaking up with a shotgun

but they take like 5 shots to kill

[unique umbra]

you can't use a shotgun since its a rifle mod and you need the weapon+the mod equipped

[full jewel]

yt video guy uses a shotgun

[unique umbra]

it says rifle riven mod?

[full jewel]

its a rifel mod

[rocky breach]

nvm im dumb

the guy saying to use a shotgun, prob has that challenge on a different weapon

[unique umbra]

you need a rifle equipped with the riven on it to do the rifle riven

don't need to use it for the challenge but you need it equipped in your loadout

[worldly bough]

Can you gain Railjack Intrinsics even if you joined someone else's Railjack? How much mastery do you get per point?

[rocky breach]

each intrinsic point is 1500 mastery
1000 affinity = 100 intrinsic xp

[bright nest]

Any reason why my chemistry is in the hex is barely moving been doing the daily bounty gifts and texting barely looks like the bar has moved

[strong field]

Whats your rank in the hex

[tranquil kayak]

Longbow Sharpshot just seems like a worse Primary Deadhead

Of course without the limitation that it has to kill

[sudden tendon]

its multiplicative lol

[tranquil kayak]

ohhhhh my god okay then lmfao

[sudden tendon]

ye kinda busted

[tranquil kayak]

DAMN

[uneven girder]

should i get coda hirudo?

[tranquil kayak]

YES, DEFINITELY, IT'S 60% RIGHT NOW

which reminds me I need to kill my coda to get it

[wheat vortex]

Anyone has suggestions on how get blessings? Which relay works better for that?

[tranquil kayak]

Probably Strata on Earth

It's where I go to send blessings

[restive warren]

Earth or whenever Baro is at when Baro is there

[strong field]

Whats the remaining timer

[wheat vortex]

Lets see if Strata works for me

[slender sparrow]

Get MR30

Any relay will do

[wheat vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/grumpy-snow-white-dwarf-seven-dwarves-disney-gif-5901971

[tranquil kayak]

What server are you in?

[wheat vortex]

Europe region

[fluid mist]

DE forgot to update nightwave for the mission changes to wave missions

[tranquil kayak]

I just completed the 8-fold path achievement in this gift of the lotus mission

[covert anchor]

Lol yeh

[brittle grail]

guys?

[tranquil kayak]

using only melee attacks
look inside
spamming Crush

[brittle grail]

is it just me or Caliber Chick 2 is still bugged?

or am I being forced to required the numpad enter key?

[keen shore]

Well

[leaden obsidian]

[strong field]

Ainoway

and I already built my daddy umbra 😭😭😭

[zealous quarry]

April fools

[restive warren]

Was this posted on 1th of April.

Because you just got got.

[pearl parcel]

Morning pix

[strong field]

😭😭

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-with-it-sunglasses-gif-9228581

[pearl parcel]

Morning chirpo

[strong field]

Morn

[leaden obsidian]

Today do be april 1st

[strong field]

Never trusting DE ever again

[restive warren]

Is the day of getting got

[unique umbra]

" on everyone's soul " and bro didn't detect sarcasm

[restive warren]

I also don't get the "everyone's soul" term

[strong field]

And I thought my jokes were horrid and freaky

[restive warren]

Only reason is because on many devstream they mentioned never bringing him back.

Along with the "Never" about more umbra warframe

[unique umbra]

umbra prime when

he already exists on the cn server

[restive warren]

Already was a thing on the... Chinese version of the game

Yes

They should've let us have a Mk-1 Prisma bo or something ridiculous

For April fool

You can't forma it or rank it but it's full omnia slot.

Crappy stats on it tho.

[unique umbra]

prototype mk-2 prisma wraith paris vandal prime

[restive warren]

I'm so glad I'm not a dev, I think my entire playerbase would hate me.

Can't equip anything but Flawed mods on it too

Woke up and choose violence

[quasi marsh]

still praying for tau expansion to be real

[unique umbra]

plot twist
flawed mods are boosted like the motovore phys mods

[restive warren]

I mean going to tau sounds likely, idk when tho

[restive warren]

I wonder if you can build it to make use to the punc arcane

Melee doughty?

[strong field]

melee dough

Donut

[restive warren]

🍩

[strong field]

Wait

Donut is actually spelled doughnut?

[restive warren]

There's not even nut in it

... Or does it

[strong field]

[restive warren]

[mellow turret]

two different spellings for different regions

[restive warren]

Oh it's like color and colour

[strong field]

Meters and metres

[restive warren]

One is attempting to be very french but without the accent

[lofty garden]

Cronut

[strong field]

bonut

[restive warren]

Crispy cream

[lofty garden]

legally distinct from krispy kreme

[strong field]

Crispy mentioned

[leaden obsidian]

Noot noot

[strong field]

I should go on a mall date

I need a break from life.

[lofty garden]

You still have malls?

[restive warren]

Do you really wanna go out?

[strong field]

Nah u right I should just hide under my blankey from the monsters

[lofty garden]

I will say this, Melbourne's malls are pretty impressive. There's one that spans three city blocks with overpasses between buildings.

[strong field]

Surprisingly yeah

Most people there just go for food tho

Or the movies

[restive warren]

Most our cinema places are closed here :(

Thank gods we have drive through that survived covid..?

Sorta impressive when I think about it

[strong field]

What if they make drive through cinemas

[lofty garden]

They have drive-in cinemas.

[strong field]

You drive a few blocks.. For each frame!

[restive warren]

[restive warren]

My bad

I don't know what half of it spelled

I just know I stay in the car

Get people that lumen check my eyeballs because they have 0 idea how to disable their light

I only recently learned some car (most?) don't have the "turn it off/on" option on starting your car

[strong field]

Does this all mean me and all other asians tend to live hedonistic lives? The malls are almost always lively unlike what its like out there

[restive warren]

[lofty garden]

Daylight Running Lights.

[restive warren]

Do they have legs to run with

[strong field]

Walk throughs ✅

[restive warren]

[strong field]

...idk what im talking about anymore

[restive warren]

Achievement unlocked: being a sheet-head. ☑️

[bitter horizon]

[strong field]

Maybe I do want to get pressed into a sheet of chirpy

[lofty garden]

Speaking of lights, I gotta says, rounds 2 and 3 of ESO this week do not play well with the new GI lighting model.

[restive warren]

Frame drops or?

You're getting flashbanged?

[lofty garden]

It's basically black with some winky lights on the mobs.

[dry thunder]

Speaking of lights. Playing in the höllvania underground with mirage has made me blind

[strong field]

I'll be honest I cant stand E/SO anymore

[lofty garden]

I really don't like the new 1999 tiles.

[restive warren]

Too much ESO when you were trying to farm Lato/Braton vandals?

[lofty garden]

Being underground is just a mess to navigate, and when the exit beacon "disappears", finding your way out is next to impossible.

[strong field]

The underground tiles is not so nezha-dynamic (I keep sliding into little objects)

[restive warren]

I like the one with the slides and balloons

[lofty garden]

Like, ok, add 20 new tiles, but make half above ground?

[restive warren]

That's p much it

[lofty garden]

Or transition between below and above? It was rough.

[leaden obsidian]

[lofty garden]

Oh, and that mission option for 5 legacytes to get the new AV and Potency mods? Yeah, that has to go in the bin.

[strong field]

Some tiles are also way too dark. Maybe cuz all my settings are at the lowest but like I cant see shiiiieeep

[leaden obsidian]

My fps is stuck at about 30, it was working fine at 144 not long ago

[lofty garden]

it's not just that they're dark, the vertical exits are hidden.

[strong field]

Yea thst too

Its a nice change of pace and all but I think im quitting 1999 runs as soon as I get all the coda weps. Cant even be bothered to get all the new ephems

[lofty garden]

The mini map means nothing when you have three layers crammed on top of each other.

[dry thunder]

Stuck in game or overall? Has your monitor reset it's refresh rate?

[restive warren]

We are 75% mole people instead of 50%

[leaden obsidian]

In game

[dry thunder]

Have you turned off vsync? As in it should be on for more stable fps in warframe

[restive warren]

We live in the mall's basement

[lofty garden]

I got to LR5 without Coda weapons. I can afford to be picky about which missions I run for those things.

[restive warren]

Not allowed to come out

[pastel oxide]

How does one get the ship up in the sky I gotten myself down ground and idk how to get out of here

[lofty garden]

There's a teleport under it.

[leaden obsidian]

Which section would that be in

[strong field]

Just search it up no

[dry thunder]

Don't know at the top of my head but should be in video slightly under resolution

[lofty garden]

Access to the landing craft when you are in the Drifter camp is via a teleport link just below the landing craft.

[strong field]

Theres a search bar in the settings. Use it

[leaden obsidian]

I forgot

Vertical sync?

[dry thunder]

Yes

[lofty garden]

Turn off vsync and turn on a frame rate limit.

I usually leave the game set to 120FPS since I don't need more and why make the GPU work hard when it doesn't have to?

[leaden obsidian]

Didn’t do anything

[errant bridge]

What survival extended missions can I run and hit cap without having to be in mission for 6+ hours?

[leaden obsidian]

Survival extended mission?

[strong field]

One thing that kinda pisses me off a lot is if I need to kill scaldra for the 1999 calendar and when I do it in an exterm the game forces me to go underground so most of my kills consist of techrot instead 😭

[strong field]

(I always forget I can just do survival)

[errant bridge]

Err I guess what I mean is which survival missions can I do endurance runs and I'm not waiting for six hours to hit cap

[strong field]

Cascade. Disruption. Circuit.

[leaden obsidian]

All survival missions take 6+ hours, fastest is cascade in about an hour

[errant bridge]

I prefer survival but I was at like five hours and only 5k

[restive warren]

It's sorta the only option if you get the 500 scaldra challenge :(

I mean you can spam exterminate I guess, but like...

[strong field]

Exactlyyyy

[leaden obsidian]

remove that last word.

[restive warren]

It'll take you x3 longer

[errant bridge]

Ok wasn't sure if higher level missions went faster

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[leaden obsidian]

Circuit is fake cap

[errant bridge]

Yeah I don't count circuit

[strong field]

Nu uh you're not my mom grrrrr

[restive warren]

Are you sure

[errant bridge]

I prefer doing survival solo personally but it takes so long to level

[leaden obsidian]

@maiden granite

[strong field]

Luna can be my mommy tho 💯

[restive warren]

[strong field]

...just kidding

[leaden obsidian]

[restive warren]

I'm sad there's not the "wow" sound cue they use in some anime

[leaden obsidian]

Idk why my fps is still at 30, it’s a touch irritating

[dry thunder]

and you've double checked your monitor's refresh rate?

[leaden obsidian]

Is that a thing for laptop?

[dry thunder]

should be yes

[leaden obsidian]

Where do I go for that

[dry thunder]

searching refresh rate in settings you should come to advanced display settings, double check that your refresh rate is maxed. Windows settings that is

[leaden obsidian]

It was at 60, changed it to 144

[lofty garden]

Oh... laptop. nVidia?

Check nvapp for power settings. Many times, the driver will get "stuck" in battery mode. There's a setting in there that forces the framerate down to 30 if the driver thinks the system is running on battery.

[leaden obsidian]

that makes sense, apparently my power strip was turned off

[lofty garden]

That could do it, too. 🙂

[leaden obsidian]

That was the fix

[placid turtle]

Even the Faceoff mode has more Scaldra than Scaldra Exterminate

[lofty garden]

The techrot nodes have more scaldra than the scaldra nodes.

The Void has more scaldra than all of 1999's nodes.

[restive warren]

[unique umbra]

yeah no 1999 needs to be looked at again it's like 80% techrot regardless of mission

[lofty garden]

I'm just... why are you giving me a Scaldra task, then slapping techrot on the mission nodes and making them the dominant enemy type on a node marked as Scaldra? Any time I see a hole going underground, I die a little inside.

[unique umbra]

2 exterminates should get you your weekly yet it's more like 5

[unique umbra]

thats what im sayin

[restive warren]

Remember: mole people

Except it's certainly not scaldra

[lofty garden]

The update needs another month in the oven.

[pure gulch]

every scaldra mission has techrot part for some reason it makes no sense

[restive warren]

Because the city is infested

I can explain lore wise, but I'll say it's mildly cumbersome

[pure gulch]

i don't mind it unless it takes the stupid hell scrubbers there 800m away from where I am

which it has

[restive warren]

"500 scaldra kills" also have a early hole in the ground

Thanks I hate it

[lofty garden]

Yeah, the survival mechanic is annoying. Now, if I see scrubbers ~200m away, I activate the local ones and then head out.

It's one thing if you can easily get back, but once you're underground? Yeah, good luck with that.

[leaden obsidian]

Hatin on 1999 nodes?

[lofty garden]

The update's a mess. Pablo said as much.

More of a mess than normal, I mean.

[restive warren]

Don't get me wrong: Love the update

[pure gulch]

its even worse now that multiple scrubbers can be infested at the same time

[lofty garden]

The QoL changes, sure, but the actual "here's the new game mode and the updated tiles!" is really rough.

[restive warren]

BUT 500 scaldra kills? I have to go survival and make sure to stay up and not go down the hole

[lofty garden]

usually I just do a few exterminates solo.

Ability kills, you just take Mesa or Titania.

[pure gulch]

one way I found to cheese the spawns was with keeping one infested where i am at and not bother but now with multiple at once can't even do that lol

[leaden obsidian]

I go down rabbit holes all the time. You should join me

[unique umbra]

qol was nice but then they added reverse qol where 1999 now runs like cold cheeks on low end devices that didn't struggle too much before encore

[pure gulch]

endurance impossible at least solo

[restive warren]

75% mole person confirmed

[pure gulch]

or at least feels like it if nothing else

[lofty garden]

It wasn't low end devices they were finding, it was newer GPUs running it slower than older GPUs, according to Steve.

[unique umbra]

I'm speaking from experience

[lofty garden]

What GPU, though?

[unique umbra]

idfk laptop

[restive warren]

Since the update with Minerva/Kaya/Flare/etc I know I struggle finding the "keys" charge for the side objective in exterminate: It now feels like a chore.

[lofty garden]

'cause my B580, it's rough. My RTX 2080? Much better.

[unique umbra]

how do I check? either way my 1999 pre-encore ran 2-3x better

[lofty garden]

Device Manager.

[pure gulch]

yeah the cache charges are SO stupid now

[lofty garden]

But 1999's always been rough outdoors on the B580, even before the encore update.

Oh, the cache keys just don't spawn sometimes.

[unique umbra]

processors or somewhere else?

[pure gulch]

the area is enormous for some reason, the charges usually at the edges or not even there, and it legit spawns like 2 in total if you're solo

[lofty garden]

Display Adapters

[restive warren]

At least I finished all of them minus Enervate. :/ which I can buy the last 2 I need through standing

[compact sable]

windows + R, dxdiag

GPU will be under display, CPU and ram will be in the first tab

[unique umbra]

intel iris xe

[pure gulch]

I got em thankfully from playing prior so I'm not missing out but god its so annoying now

[restive warren]

But I don't envy anyone that started farmin' em now and I hope they just do vosphor or the standing way

[lofty garden]

Hmm... what CPU?

[unique umbra]

thats in processors yeah?

[lofty garden]

Yes

[restive warren]

Maybe I'll learn their new spawn point but half the time I say "f it" and just ignore it now

[unique umbra]

8 11th gen intel i5

[pure gulch]

I feel like there's no logic in the spawns now

[lofty garden]

oh, then maybe let DE know. That shouldn't be suffering as much if Steve is to be believed, or Steve's gauge of "new" is different than ours.

[pure gulch]

like the ring is massive, cache not at all where it used to, and there's actually like barely any charges it seems

[restive warren]

Wasn't sure, but I think I saw a few places they could spawn at, but they wouldn't always be there -assuming you get same room

[lofty garden]

Does Golden Instinct work to find it?

[unique umbra]

Yeah because december-january I was getting 20-40 fps easily but with encore i'm anywhere between a power point presentation and 20 fps

[pure gulch]

idk if its the new tiles or what that messed it but something has broke em at least partially

[restive warren]

There's one time I checked every room in the area at least 5 times and I couldn't find last one.

[unique umbra]

the drop is specifically in 1999 , rest of the game works as was

[restive warren]

Idk if I just couldn't find it somehow in a hook or crany I missed, or it was just not there.

[pure gulch]

yeah had that too

[restive warren]

I guess we'll know if/when they fix it.

[pure gulch]

also have had the charges spawn like a bit outside the ring too

[restive warren]

To be fair it "used" to be too easy, so maybe it was intended? But at the same time it's a bit ridiculous now

[restive warren]

Oh good to know, I'll keep an eye out.

[pure gulch]

i wouldn't have minded if they just like reduced the charges or sum but rn you basically spend the entire 2 min timer running around the ring and hoping

[restive warren]

Also I think the audio radius is smaller than before?

I mean yeah they glow but

[compact sable]

I just ignore the cache every time now

like a whole bunch of circus for one whole arcane wow

[restive warren]

Certain feels like it yes

[pure gulch]

if I find one charge fast i might look for the other but usually just don't bother

especially if the ring is comically large it's just not worth

[compact sable]

esp since you can just buy the arcanes from eleanor for pretty cheap

[restive warren]

True

But I liked how it was before

T'was so simple, in the way

Now feels like pulling teeth with your bare hands

[compact sable]

they were a reasonable side objective that incentivised looking at the map

but now its like, giga search radius and also the cache always spawns like 500m from when the timer starts counting down

YO SUPPLY CACHE CLOCKED YOU

EFERVON CHARGE OR TWO WILL MELT THAT LOCK PROPER!!!!

[unique umbra]

1999 managed to both be a flop and a great update at the same time it seems?

[pure gulch]

i've tried thinking if there's some logic behind when it spawns but i genuinely don't know

[compact sable]

I'd say overall it's a good update but there are some wild shortcomings

[unique umbra]

such as?

[pure gulch]

cus my initial idea was if its based on getting like a certain amount of the required kills but then at times it feels like its not that

[compact sable]

scaldra missions being 80% techrot

[pure gulch]

but idk maybe there is some logic and i just can't figure it

[restive warren]

Pros/cons

It's everywhere

[unique umbra]

I feel like aside from the tennocon stream / initial release weapons , 1999's weaponry has been largely... lacking.

[compact sable]

it has, yeah

[restive warren]

But I hate the Flare update just because it fudged with my effervon charges.

[lofty garden]

the cache starting 500m away makes it seem like detection on the cache is not line of sight, so the tileset additions are messing with detection, like how orokin eye can find things 500m away, despite its search radius being more like 75m or something

[unique umbra]

The coda stuff? For how hyped we were most of it doesn't do anything special

[compact sable]

the scaldra weapons are a bit mediocre as well, except the sickles

[unique umbra]

agreed entirely , I'd argue the scaldra weapons are actually not mediocre but almost bad

[restive warren]

I didn't expect them to be broken, minus well. Synapse is synapse and it's slept on

[leaden obsidian]

But I hate the Flare update just because it fudged with my effervon charges.

[lofty garden]

didn’t use them much. got them to max rank in hydron and they now collect dust on the shelf

[restive warren]

And honestly? Incarnon are nice, but that's all people truly care about

[unique umbra]

kuva/tenets have a history of either adding unique effects or greatly boosting the base stats
coda? neither.

[unique umbra]

I'll have to disagree here if only due to personal bias of not liking incarnons

[lofty garden]

flare’s 2 or 3 is pretty neat, the aoe flames

[compact sable]

hell, I'd say the scaldra weapons in theory are a good idea of new weapons with gimmicks

they're really undertuned though

[lofty garden]

but the rest I don’t care. on the shelf for now

[unique umbra]

flare got nerfed already I think? his 1 seems to do a hell of a lot less damage than it did on release

[restive warren]

What are you on about the diff between base Causta and coda is massive.

[compact sable]

imo it's too late in the game's lifespan for adversary weapons to be just the base weapon but more numbers

[unique umbra]

Haven't tested that , but the opinion largely stays.

[compact sable]

kuva got away with it because that was their first attempt and they predated incarnons

[restive warren]

It's not about bias, and sorry let me reword: Incarnons are beyond broken so the meta will always be some incarnons.

[unique umbra]

Specifically coda when they're MUCH later game than kuva/tenets

[restive warren]

Don't get me wrong, only incarnon I like is Toxocyst

I don't remember the exact full lengthy reason on why

[compact sable]

like, new weapons should be either fun gimmicks or new meta, otherwise they don't really have a reason to exist beyond just another weapon

[restive warren]

Reminds me of a gun in another game I think

[compact sable]

high MR fodder lol

while I'm complaining about the coda, I don't like their voicelines

[pure gulch]

if the base power comparison for weapons is incarnons then yeah not many new things would compare but that doesn't mean the weapons are inherently bad necessarily

[compact sable]

I dunno if anyone else feels this but it's weird how they don't really talk to you and instead just say boy-band themed lines

[unique umbra]

the coda stat boosts are largely unnoticeable
a weapon with 20% base cc won't see much gain from a 3-5% bump, still won't get it to or over 100%

[restive warren]

I mean anything is useable

[unique umbra]

yes you've got the argument of the 25-60% bonus element , but I feel like you can substitute for that with rivens

[restive warren]

Not really?

[quaint brook]

thats cuz they're only using pre-recorded lines from the real on-lyne

[restive warren]

But I guess now we have Magnetic/Radiation mods...

[compact sable]

yeah but that's a watsonian explanation for a doylist problem

[pure gulch]

yeah exactly, its just if you compare to something that is basically the most powerful variant(s) then most of the time it just won't compare without a similar variant

[compact sable]

and I'm not even sure it was really necessary because it's not like other infected in the game had any problem of speaking for themselves

[restive warren]

'Some' elements feels just wack

I'm not trying to make a rainbow mind you just

Why not progen gas?

[rocky breach]

most of those distance based things are as the bird flies, not waypathing.
so sometimes its in your favor that it covers more playable area, other times its against you because stuff is further away in traveleable distance

[compact sable]

gas and blast prob don't exist as progens because they do a bunch of damage as part of their status itself

they'd be the meta

[restive warren]

Gas idk

[compact sable]

even moreso than magnetic is

[restive warren]

Blast probably.

Gas is good on certain things or/and needs settup to be functional. (Which resume to elemental mods) and I guess Zephyr sheningans in a nutshell

[unique umbra]

toxin/heat also do that though?

[compact sable]

yeah but if it were a progenitor, it'd basically be just a free element

[rocky breach]

gas is just lingering aoe elec (boosted damage from weakpoints/headshots), but since it has a 10stack limit, it favors big hits rather than many hits/stacks

[compact sable]

which is already why magnetic is the catch-all atm

[restive warren]

If you say gas is broken, but you haven't been there for old gas with toxin proc

[pure gulch]

at least in raw power, its kinda like weapons in general, to me it feels like even if some weapon isn't inherently the strongest there is that doesn't mean it can't be good but rather they need more to be as good as the current best weapons (which for the most part seem to be incarnons)

[rocky breach]

i want acrid with its pure damage dot back...

[restive warren]

I miss old gas, they should just have nerfed potency but I guess I don't know how coding work so maybe that would've been way too much work

[rocky breach]

old gas being aoe toxin was fun

[compact sable]

while this is true, weapon-based toxin and heat don't do a lot of damage on their own and they're also base elements so they get combined

[quaint brook]

ofc it wasnt necessary, but I suspect DE narrowed down on those specific design aspects before even coming up with the lines itself

[restive warren]

Fun and odly satisfying

[quaint brook]

a "what if because theyre clones they only say what theyve been fed"

[unique umbra]

They do quite a bit of damage on their own? and we've weapons with innate gas or viral now so that argument falls further apart

[compact sable]

yeah probably but I just don't like it, I preferred the liches and sisters speaking directly to me

[compact sable]

yes and they're balanced around those innate combined elements

[restive warren]

Infested always speak weird

[compact sable]

if gas, blast, or heaven forfend viral were progenitors, you would literally never see anything else

[restive warren]

If they speak at all

[compact sable]

you might as well delete the other progenitors

[rocky breach]

they were supposed to be techrot clones to replace the actual boyband, perfectly sanitized to say the correct stuff in interviews, no drama, big money makers.
since the actual onlyne were hitting the usual boyband hump of getting jaded/burned out, sick of the act. having interview slip ups, and stuff.

[unique umbra]

99.9% of builds funnel into some variation of viral + adds anyway

[restive warren]

Gas prob rare. But Blast and viral? Yeah those would be problem child

[compact sable]

eeeeeehhhhh the entrati seem completely lucid, as does alad V

[lofty garden]

Nah, I use cold if possible. Freezing the rogue necramechs in place is fun.

[restive warren]

Alad v seem lucid?

[compact sable]

he seems to be himself, at least

[restive warren]

On Mesa's quest I hope you're referring to?

[compact sable]

no more crazy than before he was infested

[lofty garden]

It's not like you see what he sees...

[quaint brook]

Alad V during his infested season wasnt as lucid as he was before lol

[restive warren]

Otherwise I'll have to chew your left kneecap

[lofty garden]

And who is "CT" ?

Is he talking to his CAT scan?

[restive warren]

Entrati isn't infested 😭

unless you mean mother?

[compact sable]

I mean the family

[lofty garden]

I also don't get the impression that the ropalolyst is much for finances or deliveries...

[compact sable]

hence "the" entrati

[quaint brook]

"Listen, there is still time lay down your- arms. Become one of- us. Then you will see the path. Then you too will help others- to become us"

[restive warren]

Remember how the helminth palpitate in your absence

And also don't forget to tell it to not do that please

[compact sable]

lizzie is also surprisingly eloquent

[rocky breach]

at least i finally have a name for the helminth

instead of just helminth

[restive warren]

They are mildly insane conversation you wouldn't have with a normal human being

[compact sable]

I mean sure but she (it?) is more intelligent than 99% of grineer

[restive warren]

I mean we could spend all day, but not all infestation stands evolves the same way

[quaint brook]

I mean, she is a part of a hivemind, its kinda like cheating

In a battle of wits she has all the arms, literally

[restive warren]

Because she's not a clone with gene degeneration?

[compact sable]

anyway idc about the reasons why

I just prefer the lich/sister lines over the coda ones

[lofty garden]

We need the cracked windows back on the infested corpus ships.

[compact sable]

the codas mostly feel like they're just talking to themselves

[restive warren]

Then keep it as you don't like it instead of inventing reason to not like. I would too not like to being talked "Around" to vs being talked to

[compact sable]

I didn't give a reason at first lol

someone then said that it was like that for a reason

[fair flame]

nibbles kath ankles

[compact sable]

so I replied

[restive warren]

I just found them funni, because it's like talking to someone very vain that talks to themselves

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/chomp-bite-arm-gif-7083692912057941766

[restive warren]

Now I take the knee tax

[lofty garden]

The technocyte coda talking like a boy band interview on in the background at the doctor's office is fine.

[restive warren]

Those poor dudes gonna need more than a doctor to fix whatever's wrong with 'em

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-an-exception-error-coding-gif-5259200162938284431

[compact sable]

I guess the issue is that it doesn't make them feel like "adversaries"

they don't feel like personalised rivals like the sisters and liches did, they feel like random guys

[fair flame]

You can thank warner bros for that with there copy right of the nemesis system

[compact sable]

retroactive lore for characters who are long dead and don't really have any story impact

[restive warren]

That's not asking why you don't like it. It's just to let you know "here what to expect" also who knows maybe they'll eventually add more lines in which they talk to you instead of talking around you. If that's even a term?

[lofty garden]

I mean, they're PR-created nightmares. I don't expect them to be personalized.

They're the opposite - homoginized.

[rocky breach]

liches/sisters affect the star chart, they steal, they migrate through planets.
coda just appear, get farmed in a few missions, go away. theres nothing personal about it, so i agree they dont feel like nemesis/adversary material

[restive warren]

I mean don't get me wrong, I like knowing why someone don't like something

[lofty garden]

spoiled milk, as it were.

[compact sable]

homogenised is the word and I suppose that's why they feel like a downgrade

[restive warren]

That's a big word

[lofty garden]

Yeah, I could go read the milk carton in the fridge, but I'm working.

[compact sable]

and yeah, I do kinda miss them not stealing, even if that was small potatoes in the grand scheme

the classic reposting of the driving to saturn meme because a lich stole your gf or whatever

[restive warren]

I like getting my credits taken away

I however do not like my relics being taken hostage

[lofty garden]

That affects poor people disproportionally, so I can understand removing it.

[compact sable]

they didn't steal a lot in the grand scheme, but it was a factor

I do also feel the pace of killing them is a little too quick as well

[lofty garden]

It wasn’t

If you focus to run a lich, the process takes 2-3hrs. You won't lose anything of importance.

[restive warren]

"Player migrated" I know what it means, but it just feels like you're getting called out for all the host migrations you've suffered through

[lofty garden]

All my fault.

Don't run limbo, don't stay outside the red circle, and you'll be fine...

[leaden obsidian]

I’m hungry. @restive warren cmere imma make soup

[restive warren]

[leaden obsidian]

Soup

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/soup-store-gif-18760613

[leaden obsidian]

[fair flame]

I'm glad we both had the same response and ya best me to it

[restive warren]

The ol' classic

[fair flame]

Anyways what flavor is soup do you think kath is?

[leaden obsidian]

Kat

[restive warren]

[fair flame]

how ya rate my void shell skins

[restive warren]

Why Nekros the only one that doesn't match color scheme?

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-okay-great-meme-just-perfect-gif-13268829466700541863

[leaden obsidian]

There’s a noba voidshell!

[restive warren]

I want Dagath voidshell

[coarse birch]

Nice

[fair flame]

to bad there done with voidshell

[brittle grail]

uh guys?

how did Lotus travel to 1999?

[restive warren]

Oh are they?

[fair flame]

they said so them selfs 3 dev streams ago

[leaden obsidian]

Kath! I desire plat!

[restive warren]

I completely missed it

It's already all spent

What I have left is for Citrine deluxe

[leaden obsidian]

But

[fair flame]

the RED TEXT frame

[restive warren]

Gemu-

[fair flame]

i use RED TEXT frame as a way for those who know know and it wont get me sniped by the mods

[leaden obsidian]

Ezel, gib me plat

[fair flame]

im at 0

[zealous quarry]

Man I think Gyre is my favorite warframe rn

[leaden obsidian]

[zealous quarry]

Not very great single target but she nukes whole rooms if you fixate on something chunky for a minute

[placid turtle]

She's just phoning you

[covert lily]

Dang spam callers. This is why I dont read my messages anymore

[fair flame]

why was this a real thing?! DE WHY was this REAL?!

@restive warren

[hearty cradle]

Which incarnons do you prefer for this week?

[fair flame]

AYYY YOO the coprus have to do liveing sacrafises to keep this thing running?!!

[vivid island]

how much should I expect to pay for nautilus prime

[quick swift]

Yo

[lofty garden]

warframe.market says a nautlis prime set goes for ~40p.

[strong field]

Will the 60% hirudo still be on eleanor tomorrow

Tomorrow as in like idk 7-10 hours from now

[cold vigil]

m

[strong field]

amazing

[strong field]

Oh sweet

Thanks

..I'll just buy it tomorrow as soon as I wake up

Hate it when I procrastinate and end up being late

[slim jasper]

Such a stupid move to make possible using double secondary arcanes and not allowing Cascadia Overcharge to prock on Regulators while equipped on secondary...

[lofty garden]

Hmm?

[full jewel]

im currently doing chains of harrow quest rn and the mission im doing wants me to capture rells manifestations but whenever i put the trap down and shoot him he just escapes and ive wasted 5 traps now

ive aborted the mission and its still not working

[lofty garden]

you shoot him instead of scanning him?

[maiden granite]

Lol

[maiden granite]

I have been summoned?

[strong field]

[full jewel]

u dont scan him

u trap him then shoot him

[lofty garden]

with your amp, correct?

not still using a Mote amp, are you?

[full jewel]

i dont even know hat that is

i put down the trap

he gets stunned

i shoot him

and then he escapes

[lofty garden]

damage numbers show something other than 0?

looks like you can trap them with limbo’s cataclysm or use rhino’s stomp to suspend him for a bit

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1224964-capturing-rells-manifestations/

[fair flame]

So I was testing this mod. I was using my 1,261 shuild umbra. And it says it resorts 30% I did a calculator and 30% should have been about 378.3. but when I did tested it I was only getting 220-230 shuilds restored then the added regeneration effect from the pet. So I think it's 30% of your pets shuilds is what is restored on you not 30% your frames shuilds

[vast peak]

is mesa prime worth buying

[late pebble]

What was the dog's shields?
Try with Hildryn? That massive shield should definitely see something more significant

[fair flame]

It was like 900 something

I had it lower than my frame to see if I was different

[unique umbra]

took you a while to learn what you're told

[restive warren]

I'm in a constant state of gaslighting myself with wording since I started playing TFD

Nothing can be trusted, all words are a lie, reloading is also a lie

Because their gun have such things a "ready state" that isn't affected by reload mods

Anyways I wanted to share my pain that has nothing to do with warframe

[swift plume]

yo guys so i cant use xaku 2nd ability in simulacrum is there st ive miss or what pls help me i need that room to test my new build

[strong field]

I know I didn't just automatically think tfd stands for Team Fortress Duo

[restive warren]

Shure

nah it's First Descendant

I gotta get my fix with bossing

[strong field]

Yea I heard that game was buns so I stopped following it

[restive warren]

Eidolon is just a tall-tree-people

[restive warren]

It's doing just as well as Warframe did when it started in all due fairness

[fair flame]

Was trying to see if it was actually true dork. As they have bad wording for some descriptions

[restive warren]

They both walked on a rake and got wacked with the stick part

[unique umbra]

I tried tfd on console

[restive warren]

I'd actually pay to disable crossplay, it's not ready.

[unique umbra]

wouldn't play it again tbh if only because I have to keep relevelling my favourite stuff to my new max lvl and its usually somehow weaker

[pallid canyon]

the difference being that the targeted audience of TFD is either mindless gooners who’s attention spans are too short to really keep up with the game
Or Warframe players who would rather just play warframe

[unique umbra]

like that free exotic or ultimate or whatever lightning lmg thing you get

[restive warren]

Is it Freyna?

[unique umbra]

and that
I couldn't bring myself to play a 2nd warframe-esque time sink

[fair flame]

All so I'm mad hits regeneration effect is not like Angie's where it will constantly Regen when takeing damage

[restive warren]

That's fair

[unique umbra]

nonono the gun I never got too far but I liked the big armour guy

[pallid canyon]

a worse time sink that doesnt feel particularly rewarding despite taking MORE time to do anything

[unique umbra]

i can't remember its been some months but you get it as a pseudo tutorial quest

[unique umbra]

its like a goofy cross between warframe and the division

[restive warren]

Ajax not terrible but there's sorta no point in playing anything that's not either A-Ines or B-Serena.

Realistically problem A is more heavy than problem B

But oh well

🥹

Coop game and their balancing issue

I'm starting to see patterns.

[maiden granite]

My comp cant run TFD…it almost imploded last time

[restive warren]

💀

[unique umbra]

honestly what tfd is really missing to stick out is some cool factor

[maiden granite]

i wanted to get the sniper too

Hailey

She is v my vibe

[restive warren]

It has some nice things going on. But the fact that whatever you want it doing: Warframe and unfortunately Destiny does it better.

[unique umbra]

"some nice things " but nothing to ever really.. stick?

[restive warren]

But I'm being unfair as both of those unfair comparison from the amount of years both been up for

[restive warren]

It's trying to be too many things. So it's nothing.

[unique umbra]

like destiny has those supers which some are cool enough to stick out after all these years

[restive warren]

It's too early for TFD to be "too many things"

[unique umbra]

I'll admit I wish we got a light destiny ripoff frame for some raw "wow factor "

[restive warren]

It's Destiny, it's Warframe, it's Diablos

You gotta draw a line somewhere

Don't get me wrong, overall ideas are nice. but it's too soon. There's not enough content

[unique umbra]

yeah i get that

[restive warren]

also Ines exist.

[unique umbra]

whats that

[restive warren]

And they promised to not nerf anything so they sorta.. Shoved their boot right in their mouth

[restive warren]

If Revenant was an actual nuke.

[unique umbra]

hmm

[restive warren]

You know the "Oh not this warframe again"

[unique umbra]

gotcha

[restive warren]

Except Revenant survive

Ines? She just nuke everything

You wanna do a dungeon? Be prepared to have 3 Ines

[unique umbra]

lmao

[restive warren]

(Also all the elec effects she does, sorta can crash your console/pc)

Thank fudge it got partly fixed

[unique umbra]

vauban

[restive warren]

Black energy Vauban ages ago

Vauban: "Have you tried turning your game on and off lately? Do you want it to?"

[unique umbra]

imagine we could have genuine black energy for a reverse flashbang

[restive warren]

I wish honestly

[unique umbra]

complete blackout for a challenge run or smth lmao

[restive warren]

I miss nightwatch gift of the lotus alert

They were nice 🥹

[leaden obsidian]

[fair flame]

New protect is more convenient but old protect was strong restoring 900 shuilds in 2 seconds with a 3 second cool

[restive warren]

Had a 3sec moment I forgot manifold bond was a sentinel mod

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/boston-dynamics-robot-dog-dancing-robot-dog-robot-dog-gif-11784828160704918072

[restive warren]

Doge shaped

[fair flame]

How I imagine hound with vacuum works

[restive warren]

Reminds me of A.x.L it was a good movie

[fair flame]

So finally conclusion for the new protect mod. New protect is stronger effect on smaller shuild frames but massively looses value on larger shuild frames. Old protect was always 900-1200 shuilds over 2 seconds so it was wasted on low shuilds but amazing for high shuilds.

[leaden obsidian]

I can hook my xbox up soon

I can have my xbox games!

[worldly bough]

About Railjack, do I get Intrinsics even if I dont use my own/I ride other players' Railjack? Like, even if I fight with Archwing, hijacking and sometimes being the gunner?

[worldly bough]

Good luck

[covert lily]

Yea

[worldly bough]

Ah. Good. Mine sucks. Lmao

[frigid copper]

What affects the Baruuk's restraint meter duration or strength for quick and long time.

[spice axle]

Vamp Rock is a bugged Challenge, what a good day to do an archimedia

[fair flame]

There's no way to mod the restraint meter it's a resource like gauss battery where you just have to maintain it by using abilities or actions to speed up the rate you gain it. But the drain is always the same rate.

[rocky island]

hi all 😄

which are the best 3 syndicate to unlock? 😄

[pure gulch]

from the pledge syndicates you can even upkeep 4 with relative ease with a small bit of micromanagement, red veil and steel meridian are usually one pair with hexis/suda or new loka/perrin, whichever you choose

[long belfry]

has anyone tried out the new Sol Gate mod? I'm so used to Nourish Wisp

[daring parrot]

for plat purposes or just for personal purposes?

[torn field]

Anyone know what this thing means?

[round vine]

you’re done for

[unique umbra]

blud pirated warframe and got a virus

[brave flare]

You got hacked bro

[covert lily]

It’s an old teaser for the main quest. Still just shows up now and again.

[round vine]

bro you gotta give away all your plat or you’ll lose your account

[remote dawn]

hello

[pure veldt]

Is there a April fools joke this year or no?

[torn field]

Ah ok thx

[high pagoda]

Coda Hirudo worth buying?

[daring parrot]

just a blog post on the website

[weak nexus]

Why do so many Console players simply ignore Chat during a mission, but will beg like their lives depend on it for a Booster in Relay?

[full jewel]

is there anyway to get more warframe slots without paying?

[weak nexus]

Nightwave

[full jewel]

is that the only way?

[full jewel]

prob cause its super hard to type on console

especially xbox

[brave flare]

It takes us about 15 seconds to type out a message unfortunately

[midnight flax]

Is there a list of Nullfier/Silence/Dispel effects (targeting players) somewhere?

I know of:

1. Nullifier bubbles
2. Zariman/Sanctum/Plains/Vallis/Drift spawn zones
3. 60eyes attacks
4. Apex hazards
5. Certain acolytes
6. Jackal (dispel)
7. Falling off the map (dispel)

[full jewel]

which frame should i get rid off?

mag volt or wisp prime

[brave flare]

Keep your primes

[weak nexus]

I said "ignore" not "type back in chat", lol

[full jewel]

they ignore cos it takes so long

[brave flare]

Oh lol, then idk. I feel like that's been most gamers lately

[weak nexus]

You COULD be gifted Slots from friendly players from time to time, and sometimes you're gifted some from DE

[full jewel]

so mag or volt?

[trail bay]

how long ago was the exalted weapon rework?

[brave flare]

Well which one do you like more?

[full jewel]

idk

[brave flare]

3 weeks ago?

[midnight flax]

I thought it was more like 2 weeks

[brave flare]

Probably

[full jewel]

this sucks man only 3 slots is just stupid

[trail bay]

far enough, thx

[brave flare]

I'd say mag scales better in the long run so keep her

[full jewel]

if u delete a frame do u have to spend all the materials and wait for it to build again?

[brave flare]

Yes

[midnight flax]

Wait, three?

They added one recently, and then you get one from this season of nightave...

Does that mean that you used to start with only one slot?

[full jewel]

ive started with 3

[midnight flax]

Oh

[lyric lotus]

Hope you didnt spend the 50 plat you got on anything else but slots

[full jewel]

is it worth spending my 50 platinum i got for free on slots?

[midnight flax]

yeah

[full jewel]

ok thx

[leaden obsidian]

Mag!

[pure gulch]

yeah its fine because you can’t trade it anyways

[midnight flax]

uh, let's see... is it better to go +1 frame, +4 weapons, or +2 frames?

[full jewel]

3 slots is still dumb tho it should be ATLEAST 5

[lyric lotus]

I think de updated the slots for new players from 3 to 5?

[midnight flax]

Definitely keep Wisp P.

IMO, Mag and Volt don't really shine until later on, at which point you'll probably have more Frame slots.

Volt really needs range, and Mag really needs energy

But I guess Mag's vacuum effect is nice until you get a Companion with Fetch/Vacuum

[lyric lotus]

If mag and volt is not the prime frames they can be sold or give em to the helminth

[midnight flax]

New players don't have Helminth

[lyric lotus]

Depends on how far they went on progression

[brave flare]

Don't really need helminth but their augments are necessary

[midnight flax]

Volt is trivial to replace if you have a clan, and mag is pretty easy to replace too

[full jewel]

well i got another slot for nekros

[errant bridge]

Helminth is accessible fairly early on now

With diemos on the map earlier

[midnight flax]

Wisp (Prime) seems really good for new players, because the invis makes enemies less likely to shoot at you

[errant bridge]

It's great for stealth cheese in mr

Octavia is stealth and brain off

[full jewel]

well the fire rate shocking and dmg buff have been super useful so far

[errant bridge]

You can play pretty safe and boring using her

[midnight flax]

Oh, right, Wisp's health mote also makes you super tanky at low levels, I guess

[full jewel]

health motes good too yeah

[midnight flax]

Octavia requires you to understand the Resonator minigame

Wheas wisp is just "bullet jump everywhere, place motes"

[lyric lotus]

Health and haste mote is all you need for wisp

[errant bridge]

You can literally get the songs that just spam crouch

And play without sound

[lyric lotus]

And she has breach surge

[full jewel]

is there a frame that can setup like turrets and stuff like that

[lyric lotus]

One of the broken ability in the game

[midnight flax]

Protea (Prime) sets up temporary turrets and is really good

[errant bridge]

Anything with decent survivability is good for early players

[midnight flax]

Protea is nice for the team, and nice solo

[full jewel]

thanks i think i have her blueprint luckily

[errant bridge]

Wukong is good because he has bailouts and easy status dump/heal

[midnight flax]

She kicks butt with or without Helminth

[errant bridge]

Wisp is good because even if you suck you can still be supportive

Revenant is brainless survivability

As far as ones you can get prime

[midnight flax]

I have Helminth and Augments, so my Protea builds are generally either:

• Gloom over 4
• Temporal Artillery
  But even without the augments, she's still really good.

[errant bridge]

And honestly it's never been cheaper for new players to buy their first primes

With market saturated

Protea is good because I don't even know wtf I'm doing with her and I still do a lot

[leaden obsidian]

[midnight flax]

Protea skills:

1. Super shield satellites (HOLD)
2. Amazing DPS turrets
3. Energy/Health/Ammo dispensary
4. High-skill time-loop skill
   P. Low-skill +STR bonus

[full jewel]

some guy gave me 2/4 of wisps parts but i would have had em in no time without the help i was shocked how easy it was to get

[timid berry]

@leaden obsidian 🫂

[civic oxide]

does the purple shard electricity ability damage work on whipclaw?

[errant bridge]

You can also play her with four off

And still have a valid build

[midnight flax]

Yeah.

I only use her 4 for Temporal Artillery or when I'm worried about dying

And it's not super great at that last one without a lot of duration

[errant bridge]

I need to learn how to use her better I do have an sp capable build on her

I've been trying to get more and more frames built out for circuit options

[lunar citrus]

WTFFFFFFFFFF this ephemera costs 20000 cryotic!

[fossil prairie]

how do i get rid of dupe kubrows to free up inventory space?

[midnight flax]

Yeah, some cosmetic items are super-expensive

[pure gulch]

shocking step 100k circuits :D

[empty scroll]

WTF? that's almost as much as the freaking Sibear!

[pure gulch]

I mean its the same as Knux research without extra costs :D

[empty scroll]

...Why does the Knux even need cryotic?

And when are we going to get kuva knux?

[pure gulch]

tis a great question

[empty scroll]

First make deployable arch melees a thing, but only make one, and make it the kuva knux

[pure gulch]

knux the one stupid archmelee I could have access to with relative ease but I also don't want to farm the cryotic for it nor buy it from market

[pearl parcel]

honestly? letting me bring a heavier melee instead of an archgun is something i'd vibe with

[empty scroll]

Same

[pearl parcel]

go rhino with kknux and just start beating faces in

[rain loom]

what are the good stats for a shedu riven

[pearl parcel]

give grounded archmelees special attacks to, let me have my OWN grab attack

[empty scroll]

Of course some BIG buffs and new mods and access to arcanes would be necessary to make them even somewhat worth using

But if they did all that AND let me bring Kuva Knux, would be worth it

[young kindle]

Hello all. I now shall begin lurking

[pearl parcel]

one of the funniest buffs would be special heavy attacks, give the knux variants a special grab and slam

[pure gulch]

leveling archmelees the worst thing there is

[next kiln]

nuh uh

[empty scroll]

For the love of god DE PLEASE make this happen

I would even start indulging in the melee slam meta if I could just jump into the air, grab a enemy and slam them into the ground

[pearl parcel]

i would pay cash money to see rhino or qorvex or another tank frame physically pick up a nullifier and break him over his knee

THAT would bring me back to the game

[next kiln]

nuh uh

[empty scroll]

Honestly its kind of a wasted opportunity that the Knux were never just made as regular melees to begin with

[pearl parcel]

honestly man

give me actual good knuckles weapons

DE, listen to ol gaben here, he knows what the people want

[young kindle]

Second that, I want to just keep punching my way through missions with atlas

[pearl parcel]

you dont gotta ping me dude

im right here

[empty scroll]

I mean Prisma Obrex and the Coda Hirudo are pretty good as fist weapons go

But the Knux are just funny

[young kindle]

Oops sorry bout that

[pearl parcel]

ehh, i never liked how small they are and how lackluster their attacks are

more often than not its as many kicks as it is punches, i want a kit thats just raw braler

brawler*

[young kindle]

Get me some tape to wrap up atlas hands

Let's just start slugging fools

[pearl parcel]

give us more unique grappling attacks

[wooden fog]

I think i just lost a coda assassination because drillbit stayed on the map even after i killed him so packet wouldn't go down after i took out his first health bar

Grrrrrrreeeeeeeaaaattttt

[pearl parcel]

plenty of enemies can pick us up and drag us around, let me hoist up a nullifier and just body slam him

stone cold stunner

[young kindle]

I woulf love to suplex a few of them heavy weapons guys please

[next kiln]

did yknow ape alone weak but ape together strong

[pearl parcel]

yes jon, this is common knowledge

[next kiln]

monke

[pearl parcel]

hey jon, whats your opinion on a large and oversized cannon that fires a hollow tipped dart

[next kiln]

unlogical

if is smol dart

[wooden fog]

This is why wukong has the divine twin

[pearl parcel]

no jon, its a 15 foot long dart thats 40x denser than lead

[next kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/apes-together-always-weak-dawn-gif-18022934

[next kiln]

def smol

[pearl parcel]

its tipped with a large titanium head for causing maximum energy transfer

[next kiln]

sounds pretty small

[pearl parcel]

jon this dart can delete a tank from existance if dropped from 50 feet

[next kiln]

so can this monke

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gangster-monkey-monk-monke-shaptic-gif-21239890

[pearl parcel]

imagine what it'll do when fully and mightily lobbed by a comically large cannon

[next kiln]

even less dmg fr

[astral sundial]

Hey guys I wanted to ask what do you use for your abilities on keyboard, it strains my hand to try and press 1 2 3 4 plus i just moved from controller to keyboard and mouse

[next kiln]

i use morse code fr

[timid berry]

Use controller tbh easier on ur fingers

I play other stuff on pc and sometimes controls are just plain awkward

[lofty garden]

i use controller on PC and ignore gameplay that requires claw fingers. back buttons on a controller help a lot

[pure gulch]

so used to kbm now i just do it lol

default binds and all so you can imagine the ember gameplay and what it's like

[midnight flax]

Just for reference, if anyone wants to figure out how you died:

1. Go to C:\users\YOUR_USERNAME\AppData\Local\Warframe\
2. Open EE.log
3. Look for was downed by

[sudden tendon]

I use my mouse button/3 for 1, Q for my 2, 2 for my 3, and Z for my 4

[daring parrot]

where are you fingers resting when gaming?

[leaden obsidian]

You can hook a controller up

[lyric lotus]

Arcane Universal Fallout is the new Arcane Energize

[rain loom]

hey how the avg value of a riven ?

[strong field]

Truly an arcane

That only works on like 2-3 frames

[runic sedge]

If they were at least farmeable in some way

Make it be a 0.1% drop chance from legacytes idc I want r5 hotshot without selling my kidney

[runic sedge]

There’s no avg really

Some are worthless some are 20p some are 400p unrolled

[lyric lotus]

unless DE decided to drop it's price like Energize it's gonna stay there for a while or until maybe when it comes to desolation gamba

[pearl lagoon]

why is it so expensive?

sry 4 the ping

[strong field]

Because the currency to buy them excluding plat only comes from one gamemode. And its one of the hardest gamemodes for some people

Including me. I cba to do these archemedia gamemodes istg

Whats the point of making synergistic loadouts when the game scrambles it for you anyway

[pearl lagoon]

isn't that only to get the best rewards?

[maiden granite]

I dont know what that arcane even does

[strong field]

Yea but then again you wouldn't be wasting 2 netracell pulses if you were to only get, say, 1-2 good rewards

[pure gulch]

rad statuses give chance to drop universal orb on death

[strong field]

Chance for orb to drop per stack of radiation or smth like that

[maiden granite]

Ooohhh

[strong field]

We're all kinds of lavos in the end

[maiden granite]

Hm..what to slap that on

[sudden tendon]

Thats so buns😭

[maiden granite]

Oooo maybe my bassocyst

[timid berry]

@leaden obsidian where's my hug 😦

[pure gulch]

qorvex, maybe nyx

[pearl lagoon]

meh, if it saves me a headache