gameplay-discussion

[sudden flame]

gonna make me log in mobile rn

[maiden granite]

Where’s that cat meme

[sudden tendon]

we can jusy do it next time lol

[sudden flame]

bet

i could never sit on that many

[leaden obsidian]

Also yes I changed my pfp

[sudden flame]

rhats 50 chances at an energise in my eyes

[sudden tendon]

im waiting for massive unboxing lol

[sudden flame]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-gold-gold-gold-gold-cs2-cs2-cases-gif-10056763089801407532

[sudden tendon]

i think last time i did like 181 packs and it costed like 9 mil credits

[sudden flame]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-ohne-gambling-tf2-gambling-tf2-crates-gif-9062793171154620627

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-ohne-bounce-bouncing-drilla-gif-5367056226454207889

[sudden flame]

makes me so happy ohne being mentioned in a wf seever

[sudden tendon]

i love ohne hes so stupid

[maiden granite]

I know. Didnt even take me a day to notice this time

[sudden flame]

daddohne

[maiden granite]

Is that who that dude is?

[sudden tendon]

ohne pixel

[sudden flame]

ohnepixel

[leaden obsidian]

ah

[sudden tendon]

my goat

[maiden granite]

His vibes seem good

[sudden flame]

the goat, the drilla

[maiden granite]

Gives golden retriever energy

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-ohne-my-drilla-mafez-gif-3424289957786701431

[sudden flame]

i still don’t know what that means

[maiden granite]

Adhd super power says, is a hoot

And gud guy

[leaden obsidian]

[maiden granite]

Hype and just happy to be here and happy go lucky

And sweet

[leaden obsidian]

I should go murder the tank, I’m just lazy

[strong field]

Golden retriever is that dawg species right

[maiden granite]

For her pfp?

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah

[sudden flame]

my mrs calls me that and i thought she was saying i stink like a retriever ngl

[strong field]

They're like the most joyful dawg breed too

[maiden granite]

Lol no no that’s a very high compliment from female species

That’s adorable

[sudden flame]

i got a labratriever hes a good man

[leaden obsidian]

That tank just hurts, I’d rather solo the 60 eyes fragmented one and get mirages

[maiden granite]

Big YIKES

[sudden flame]

sophisticated gentleman

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah, tho I should try now that I have latron and incarnon

[maiden granite]

And an orange cat omg that literally fits 😭

[primal bolt]

Hey if you fail a mastery test do you have to wait 24 hours?

[maiden granite]

Not anymore

[sudden flame]

the orange cat is devious don’t let him fool you

[strong field]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-roll-dark-souls-roll-somersault-gif-26164281

[leaden obsidian]

No longer the case

[strong field]

You have unlimited attempts until you suceed. Then once you do succeed you have a day cooldown before being able to attempt the next test

[peak moth]

Not sure how to explain but they are keys that spawn corrupted general vor

[strong field]

Idt you can manually summon him whatsoever

He just spawns randomly automatically in lvl 40+ void missions

[peak moth]

The wiki says you can

[strong field]

Huh

Maybe im missing smth

[peak moth]

Idk

[strong field]

Either way you can just go to the void if you're looking for corrupted vor

[earnest cave]

I think it's not even worth it to do attempts without a Lex, Vasca, enough investment into Vazarin to max the immunity, and some sort of Armor Strip option. It's rough.

Even with those it's really difficult

Honestly not really sure what to do about the tentacle phase, the Magistar strat is just kinda bad

Maybe DE nerfed it, maybe it's because I am lacking some of the archon mods for the slam damage, but the first part of the HP bar takes years as there's no way until the first regen phase to activate incarnon on it, aside from maybe killing enemies during the tank phase? But that's way too risky to do with a hammer

I think I might need a different weapon, problem is I'm stripping with Latron, and despite people saying Lex is good in the tentacle phase, I simply can't make it really deal that much damage, enough to reasonably pop the cysts at least

So it's only melee and there's not much better there

Alternative is to armor strip with vastilok but I didn't grab it when Baro was around with it so

That's not an option either

[leaden obsidian]

I tried with laetum back when I didn’t armor strip the tank, laetum is good for popping the first phase, not necessarily good for the second phase

[earnest cave]

I mean the Magistar thing would work fine so long as it actually dealt damage in the first tentacle phase, it just doesn't and that makes that part of the boss fight take years so when I'm finally past it, there's much more stress - more mistakes, and much more opportunity to die in the first tentacle phase pre-regen

[pearl parcel]

hey chirp, i got hilarious news

[earnest cave]

If you're only using it for the tank phase, it's useless then since Lex is just the premier way to handle it

One shotting the vents is just way too strong

[pearl parcel]

vanilla, you can also hear the hilarious news

apparently the best way to deal with an enormous tank guided by abominable intelligence is just hucking grenades at it like a caveman

[leaden obsidian]

Both phases, for the tank phase it’s good for popping the vents and the second it’s just meh to kill the tank

[earnest cave]

Huh?

Some new apex tank strategy?

[pearl parcel]

no im playing ghost recon breakpoint

there are giant AI tanks called Behemoths, you can kill them by just doing this

[earnest cave]

I'm not really looking for meh, especially since it sounds pretty bad at popping the vents compared to Lex, mostly due to the whole projectile speed thing considering the tank is always moving around and wiggling

I don't think it's worth the sacrifice

[earnest cave]

Cool

[pearl parcel]

like, big intimidating tank with heavy armor, strafe-enabled treads and add on mortars? just huck c4, grenades, mines, you got rockets too? sick, send it

then just shoot it a bunch

[earnest cave]

Makes sense

[earnest cave]

I'm thinking I need to look into the Lex angle more, because if I can make it deal adequate damage in the first phase of the tentacle phase, that's all I really need for the Magistar to take over when it starts regening and I get the incarnon active

But like it really needs to kill it in one incarnon charge, because it's also impossible to charge Lex iirc before the regen phase

[strong field]

Yea?

[earnest cave]

Anyway, yeah, I still just hate that you can't do a lot of attempts on the Apex Tank quickly

Since every time you die, you get sent all the way back to the start

I think DE NEED to address this if they plan on adding these bosses for all future expansions, like they're really fun but having to replay the mission over and over, that sucks so much

[pearl parcel]

i can kill giant AI tanks by just hucking bombs at them

[strong field]

What game is it this time

[peak moth]

Can you make certain item autocraft and collect?

[earnest cave]

Especially since you have to do the secret every time, which means you can't completely turn your brain off as it's gotta work to remember all the spots it spawns or look for them if you're not fully acquainted with the layout.

It just sucks so much to play and it has nothing to do with the boss, since the boss is fun, but it sucks all of the fun out of doing attempts

[earnest cave]

If you mean from the foundry, no

[peak moth]

Dang

[earnest cave]

You can use the companion app on your phone to collect and start another craft

So you don't have to hop on warframe just to refresh everything

Honestly that doesn't sound like a bad feature though, especially for Forma

[peak moth]

I just wanna craft cypher but I don't have the materials to waste on the x10 or x100

[earnest cave]

They cost the same amount, just scaled up

[peak moth]

No it cost extra

[earnest cave]

Iirc they do not, especially between 10x and 100x

But regardless, they're not like rare materials, you'll get to a point where you won't care

[peak moth]

Between 10x and 100x not sure but compared to 1x the don't scale right

[earnest cave]

Because if you're not crafting 100x, it's just not worth your time

[peak moth]

Get to a point, I'm not at that point yet so I do care

[earnest cave]

Gotta do cyphers for now then

Not like they occupy too much gameplay time anyway, although that does probably not let you get any speedrun world records

[peak moth]

I fail them a lot that's why I want cyphers

[earnest cave]

Which doesn't really matter since if you're at a point where you don't have enough of those materials to be able to spend on 100x cyphers, then you're not gonna have a ton of other stuff you need for that anyway

[earnest cave]

If you're failing them a lot, you need to learn them first I'd say
There are missions which don't let you use cyphers regardless and they're not that hard once you learn them

Which ones are you having problems with specifically?

[peak moth]

The ones where you gotta turn the hexagon peices

[earnest cave]

Oh, I assume you're having problems with them when all of the slots are filled?

Those are easier than they look

The trick is to do the outside first and then just spam the middle

[peak moth]

I do the outside I'm just not quick enough

[earnest cave]

Huh, maybe it's more difficult on console but I'd say you should spend more time practicing then
Ciphers are nice QoL but I don't think they should be used if you don't even know how to do them in the first place. Again, stuff like Nightmare missions don't let you use ciphers

[peak moth]

Yeah I hateit

And I'm on kb m but Im just slow

[earnest cave]

Some people have issues with that one, you'll get better at it over time though

Just gotta practice some more

[peak moth]

Ight Thanks

[tranquil kayak]

MY SOUL LEFT MY BODY

I just logged in to get the daily today

I have my Steam auto-login set up

so when it said "Login Failed: Check Your Info" I swear I died for a second

Until I put in my password and it decided to work

idk why my auto-login didn't work

Maybe my internet lagged or something idk but god damn please DE don't scare me like that

Has anyone else had this happen? Auto-login fails as if you put your password in wrong?

[stark cliff]

Why is the broken war so popular?

[leaden obsidian]

Free weapon, pretty solid weapon, probably it idk

[stark cliff]

Makes sense
But why is skiajati not so popular?

[leaden obsidian]

Good question

[stark cliff]

Or like, why isnt the broken scepter popular at all?

[leaden obsidian]

Broken scepter is just bad

It’s a polearm which isn’t terrible but isn’t good, then it’s unique perk just sucks

The absorbing a body takes like 3 seconds for 1 orb when those dame 3 seconds can be used to get a kill and potentially get an orb

But you’re also vulnerable and can’t do anything while absorbing the body to get the health orb

[devout burrow]

didnt even know broken scepter had a mechanic

[leaden obsidian]

I tried the mechanic out, it’s garbage

[stark cliff]

You could use the argument of " but that health orb can be turned into an energy orb with equilibrium "

But it takes so much time that you'll probably die

[devout burrow]

you wont die, its just pointless

from what I've read its just not worth

[leaden obsidian]

At higher levels(like level cap)you probably can

But you wouldn’t be using it at cap

[stark cliff]

Not even level cap

[devout burrow]

but if you take such a weapon to level cap then thats on you

[leaden obsidian]

True

[stark cliff]

Just like your daily steel path shorty mission and you're dead by standing still for 3 seconds

But it also depends on which warframe you're using

[red vale]

Nice exilus adapter

[pure gulch]

yeah usually from if I take too long to do it, at which point I just type it in, not a big deal on pc at least

[tranquil kayak]

Skiajati's stats are overall not great, and Nikana weapons have bad hitboxes and slow forward movement so you can't travel as far while using them as you can with other weapons

Also the heavy attack for Nikanas is extremely weird. You draw, move, do a spin, and then slash. It's insanely hard to land it because you fly all over the place

[stark cliff]

Oh my god i thought it was only me

[tranquil kayak]

The only real reason to use the Skiajati is for stealth because it turns you invisible after a finisher kill.

[stark cliff]

Sometimes i get past the enemy while doing the heavy attack and i waste all of my combo

[tranquil kayak]

But you'd be better off using other melees that can kill enemies before being detected and shot at becomes a problem, or Warframes who can just turn invis

That being said Skiajati is good for that one MR test that requires you to kill all the enemies without being detected, so long as you optimise your path and book it

[pallid canyon]

nikana’s are heavily reliant on their backhanded stance mod

its the only comfortable stance

[pallid canyon]

thats how heavy attacks work for every weapon type

not just nikanas

just slap a range mod on

[tranquil kayak]

No other weapon heavy attack sends you dashing somewhere before swinging

[pallid canyon]

also

[tranquil kayak]

It is designed to be "cool" but completely sacrifices function

[pallid canyon]

why’re we worried about heavy attacks on nikanas?

always have been and always will be unga unga hack and slashers

[tranquil kayak]

Also it's the slowest heavy attack because you don't swing the moment it finishes winding up. Every other melee does. Nikanas do a ninja roll first

[stark cliff]

But nikanas just feel worse

Its like if your frame has some kind of oil in his body and he slips on the side of the enemy

[tranquil kayak]

DE should remove the whole thing before the heavy slash, and also make the slash horizontal instead of vertical.

And there you go - usable heavy attack

[pallid canyon]

idk maybe its just the literal 400 hours of use I have with the Sepfahn

I just don’t think they’re that rough to use

[tranquil kayak]

Grab any other melee weapon and press heavy. It will swing the moment the wind-up is done. Nikanas don't

[pallid canyon]

i dont use heavy attacks with nikanas because I just never saw the need

[tranquil kayak]

You don't have a problem with the movement Warframes do before swinging the Nikana but everyone else does. That doesn't make it not a problem.

[tranquil kayak]

SO WHY DID YOU SAY ANYTHING????

THAT WAS LITERALLY POINTLESS

[pallid canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[tranquil kayak]

You say nikana heavy attacks being the way they are is not an issue and then you say you never use the heavy attack

[pallid canyon]

they arent an issue if you never have to use them

if you want to slap around heavy attacks use a scythe

[tranquil kayak]

Ignoring the problem doesn't make the problem go away. It's still there

Its still a problem and it still needs to be addressed and possibly fixed

[pallid canyon]

I just don’t see the issue of heavy attacks not being great on a hack and slash weapon

i figure thats just a part of the trade off

[tranquil kayak]

What about Tennokai mods then? The ones specifically designed to buff heavy attacks in several ways

Crit damage, status chance, range, simply increased damage. These all only affect heavy attacks because the ability to use them is tied directly to performing heavy attacks

On a weapon that seems to intentionally make you miss your heavy attacks, Tennokai mods are mostly useless

All DE has to do is remove the manoeuvre that Warframes do when performing the Nikana heavy and the problem is gone.

Maybe they could make Nikanas swing horizontally too but that's extra animation work, unless they recycle it from a different weapon

[hexed grail]

does the automatic explosion from this count as a heavy attack? if so itl make my build a lot more fun to use

[leaden obsidian]

I don’t think so

[pallid canyon]

Couldn’t tell you, because frankly speaking I don’t care about them when I’m using a hack and slash weapon

[hexed grail]

yeah im making my falcor even better because I accidentally hit damage cap with it on a slam build

[leaden obsidian]

Falcor slam meta??

[pallid canyon]

they’ve already done it with Syam

they’d just have to pull animations and tweak ranges

[hexed grail]

I accidentally used it on a magislam build and hit - dmg cap

[pallid canyon]

slam spam slop

[leaden obsidian]

[mellow summit]

Is there any reason for Overextended on Gauss Prime? I’m at 182% Durations and 175% Range. Is that okay or can I go further beyond?

[leaden obsidian]

Continuity, get atleast 200% duration

[mellow summit]

Yea I gotta get Primed Continuity

That 1,000,000 tax is nasty work tho

[pallid canyon]

hit the index

[mellow summit]

I don’t think I got good guns for it

And I don’t get good guns till maybe MR8 and I’m MR5

So now I’m grinding Hydron

[pallid canyon]

you dont need any man

just let the sweats carry you

[mellow summit]

Mmmm

Do I just pick up the green things and hold them or what?

[pallid canyon]

you pick them up and take them to the deposit

use a frame with overguard or invis and just kill things

[mellow summit]

I have bad news, I don’t have either of what you said

[pallid canyon]

then just kill things and dont pick up their drops

its not that deep

[mellow summit]

🙏🏾

I’ll try to kill things 😭

[pallid canyon]

they’re like level 30 star chart bruh

[mellow summit]

I’ll take your word for it

[hexed grail]

is this mod necessary for melee influence falcor? i just swapped it to elementalist for testing and I dont see much difference

except now I can shoot out my falcor in like a 1/3rd of a second and do more influence damage

[pallid canyon]

you lost me at using a glaive that isn’t the sledge

[hexed grail]

I havent modded my sledge for greatness yet

[pallid canyon]

sleg ❤️

[peak moth]

I have all the planets completed but no steel path

[sharp token]

u need to do a quest i believe

[peak moth]

Which

[sharp token]

no you need to talk to teshin

[peak moth]

Ok

[sharp token]

go to a relay and go talk to teshin

[pallid canyon]

have you done all of deimos/sanctum atomica?

[peak moth]

Yes

[pallid canyon]

1999?

[sharp token]

and if its not that its bcz youre missing zariman or sanctum

or 1999 yeah

[peak moth]

I'll go talk to teshin

I've done all that stuff

[sharp token]

alrighty i hope i didnt tell u something wrong lol

[peak moth]

Wait wdym 1999? I have it unlocked do I need to do each mission there?

[leaden obsidian]

Yes

[peak moth]

Oh no

[sharp token]

LMAo oof good luck buddy

[peak moth]

How do I know which ones I've done the don't seem to flash or anything

Nvm they have markers

[leaden obsidian]

All the missions, even the conclave one

[peak moth]

The ones that have exclamation points on them are ones I haven't done right?

[sharp token]

yes!

[peak moth]

So only 3 left I think

[sharp token]

awesome then, good luck!

[pure gulch]

arbitration alert should tell you what you’re missing either way

[hexed grail]

is fast deflection vigilante vigor and rolling guard enough to shieldgate in high level content?

[pallid canyon]

yeah, still have to be careful though

[hexed grail]

keep in mind I use mirage so im stacking a sort of evasion

also is this 30% added onto this?

[pallid canyon]

probably not?

just play around with it and test

[strong field]

+30% of 1.5s isnt a lot

[sudden tendon]

run catalyzing shields with it too

[sudden tendon]

if ur using mirage subsume omamori and ur gonna be

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[hexed grail]

I use this tech in another build but not this one

[sudden tendon]

ah

[hexed grail]

thats currently reserved for my cascade zaw build

[leaden obsidian]

I could try that instead of pillage

[sudden tendon]

ur literally unkillable

as long as u move around

[leaden obsidian]

Hmmm

As long as you move around?

[sudden tendon]

i get tired using that lol

yeah

[leaden obsidian]

Why move around

[sudden tendon]

cause u get hit less as u move around

[hexed grail]

sly vulp seems to be op with this because of evasion stacking

[leaden obsidian]

Ah

[hexed grail]

i stood still in simulacrum for like 5 seconds and the corpus crewman couldnt hit a single shotgun shot

[leaden obsidian]

[covert lily]

Man I still don't really have a single frost fashion slot I really like, should do something about that. He's such a lump of a design.

[urban shale]

Does adaptation apply to overguard like rhinos iron skin?

[sudden tendon]

no dr applies to overguard

[covert lily]

Hm, yes. This is probably how hand bones are supposed to work.

[sudden tendon]

why does his hand look so stubby

[covert lily]

Jade animation does funny things to other frames because it can't begin to account for proportions

[cunning moon]

i give you ... ryan reynolds 2.0

[leaden obsidian]

Headless reynolds

[restive warren]

[vague falcon]

That looks quite skinny as well.

[earnest cave]

I got so many builds, so little time

I need to grab a kuva kohm because I just saw that it's broken but I haven't finished making the sevagoth nuke build

Which seems fun as hell as well

[sudden tendon]

how is it broken?

[earnest cave]

Yeah, enemies are coded to miss more when you actually move, which is why if you stand still for 2 seconds on SP, you just die

[earnest cave]

Apparently it has a 90% base status chance, which combined with Primary Crux, is absolutely insane

[sudden tendon]

oh u mean its really good broken

[earnest cave]

Put like 4 different status effects on it and each shot procs like 5 of each

[sudden tendon]

i thought u meant there was a bug lol

[earnest cave]

Yeah, really good broken

Sevagoth nuke seems more interesting I think

[sudden tendon]

its 100% stronger

[earnest cave]

But I don't even know how to approach that, energy wise I mean

[sudden tendon]

that thing clears rooms

[sudden tendon]

thats true it looks pretty energy hungry

[earnest cave]

Like I understand the broad concept, but how am I running 255% strength with roar and NOT running out of energy

[sudden tendon]

oh wtf

maybe ur killing enough?

[earnest cave]

Well I haven't tried the build yet

But in my head it makes no sense

It uses equilibrium, but it has to also need zenurik or something

[sudden tendon]

arcane energize or equilibrium?

[sudden tendon]

oh

[earnest cave]

No energize, one slot is reserved for molt augmented, the other for molt vigor for a high strength gloom

Which I think I need because, another problem, idk how this dude survives

Like kill everything is a survival strategy but this seems to require setup and all that

[sudden tendon]

i think u should just use arcane energize and use madurai instead for the strength

[sudden tendon]

shieldgating?

[earnest cave]

Yeah that's one option but I hate shieldgating with a passion

It's like you stop paying attention for one second and you're dead

Because some dude across the map landed one bullet on you while your shields were down

[sudden tendon]

u can use huras kubrow to stay invis since ur always just casting abilities

[earnest cave]

I think I need to make the build and test it first ig

[sudden tendon]

true

[earnest cave]

But I have to invest several forma seems like

[sudden tendon]

ur not bothering with the claws right?

[earnest cave]

Including an aura forma, and I hate warframe levelling so much omg

[sudden tendon]

y aura forma?

[earnest cave]

If you mean the 4 melee stuff, nah, the build puts roar over it, or uses it for grouping

[sudden tendon]

u making multiple builds?

[earnest cave]

Sevagoth has no aura polarity by default

[sudden tendon]

yeah i thought so, no one uses it lol

[sudden tendon]

yeah but u can just use regular forma

if u only have 1 build

[earnest cave]

Oh that works for the aura slot?

[sudden tendon]

yeah

[earnest cave]

Huh, strange

[sudden tendon]

aura just makes it universal

[earnest cave]

But honestly, probably just gonna put an aura forma in there anyway

I unironically have more aura forma than actual forma

[sudden tendon]

theres no way💀

[earnest cave]

Been burning through a lot of it recently

And I never use aura forma so I have like 5

[sudden tendon]

i only play khora so i have like 80 built forma

[earnest cave]

But it might be good here too in case I want to go a different route from shield gating

[sudden tendon]

i think its gonna be rough cause he uses alot of slots for strength

[earnest cave]

I hovered around 10 until I started doing sisters and kuva liches recently, got some extra weapons to try out, which demanded forma ofc

[sudden tendon]

u formaed all of them?

[earnest cave]

True but one of my clanmates just ran like not a full one shot version and that seemed solid too

[earnest cave]

Not all the way but generally 1 forma at least, 2 or 3 for most

I think I only got 3 guns so yeah, but it broke down my stockpile anyway

[sudden tendon]

yeah that uses roar right?

[sudden tendon]

ic

[earnest cave]

Even the one shot version doesn't have to run roar

[sudden tendon]

fr?

[earnest cave]

But then you have to cast reap twice

[sudden tendon]

oh ic

im not completely sure how sevagoth works

[earnest cave]

I think both versions require viral, although that part is confusing

[sudden tendon]

i just have a vague idea

[sudden tendon]

i thought it did true dmg

[earnest cave]

How are you one shotting packs a room away if you're priming with like epitaph or something

[sudden tendon]

yeah

[earnest cave]

Yeah, but the true damage is affected by viral

So the 25% current health increases based on both viral and roar

[sudden tendon]

thats kinda weird

[earnest cave]

I mean it makes sense, increased damage to health and all that

[south knoll]

Does sow go away once you proc deaths harvest?

[earnest cave]

That's the vulnerability right?

Or do you mean just the shadows going through

[south knoll]

Yeah sevagoth 2nd

[earnest cave]

If so, it doesn't seem like it because the demonstration clip I saw he just casted 1 twice and the thing died

[south knoll]

After I proc the nuke once will the sow affect go away or will it remain for the ability duration?

[earnest cave]

That would be his first actually, the shadows apply the vulnerability

[south knoll]

Exactly
Things often die to fast for me to know

[earnest cave]

Seems like it doesn't go away, no

[south knoll]

Oh
So I've just been wasting energy then

[earnest cave]

Which is the whole idea in terms of double casting it I think

Honestly, I might just go basic and double cast

Because it sounds so much simpler, cast roar, cast sow, then just spam shadows

And things presumably die

[boreal pier]

one tap is just more energy and time efficient

[south knoll]

It's so busted bro 💀
Enemy's across the map died jsut because a random drone got blown up

[earnest cave]

Yeah but then I gotta run 255% strength and somehow proc viral on enemies a room away

Still not sure how that works

[south knoll]

Eh
I often just rely on shadow haze to give me that 50 crit

[boreal pier]

255 is one shot without a viral proc

very reachable

[south knoll]

Most enemy don't even need viral to get one tap

[earnest cave]

Oh, I see, that demo video was very confusing

Was following a ninjase build for this btw

[south knoll]

I run like 200 strength on him without shards and all that

My efficiency is abit low though

[earnest cave]

Sounds like 200% is pretty much the threshold because you can just stack up molt augmented, probably quite quick

Double cast until then ig

[south knoll]

Well not exactly 200%, around 193% like that

[earnest cave]

Oof, 2% away

How tragic

Anyway, I'll need to get that handled later, just very unenthusiastic about it

Forma resetting levels is a mechanic that rends my soul

[south knoll]

I dont even run arcanes

[south knoll]

It's a chore
Isn't really hard but annoying to do

[earnest cave]

All the affinity farming in the plains

I might lose my mind

[south knoll]

Or like,just run gabii on Ceres?

[earnest cave]

It's slower, much slower

Plains affinity farming is only rivalled by like maybe thermal sunder SO or ESO if you're mr 30

Not necesarily thermal sunder ESO, just ESO in general

[south knoll]

Well till then I'll farm Gabii
I mean I can stack up on orokin cells to so it really isn't a waste

[earnest cave]

Til what exactly

Plains affinity farming you can do as soon as you finish the new war

[south knoll]

Till I finish new war

[earnest cave]

Only requirement is nataruk and an archwing

Oh, mb

Yeah, then gabi is probably fine

[south knoll]

Isn't that a shadow stalker drop?

[south knoll]

Gabii is generally more fun
I love watching the whole place evaporates to nothing

[earnest cave]

Nah, you're thinking of something else, you'll see when you get to it

Where are you at in the story currently?

[earnest cave]

It's definitely more fun to play the game somewhat rather than ESO or affinity farming on plains for sure

But it's also much slower so

Yeah, that's why the whole relevelling thing bothers me, it forces you to play boring content for... what reason exactly?

Like levelling weapons is literally doing nothing on ESO as the one guy in your squad actually plays the game and gives you affinity

Levelling warframes is even worse

I understand why they want to keep forma around but why they want to keep forma resetting levels around, I just don't know

We're using up the resources regardless, seems unnecessary

If anything, not having to relevel might make players use up more forma

Maybe to sell affinity boosters? I'm not sure, that's the only thing I can think of, because it certainly isn't because it's more fun, Warframe is just not the type of game where a prestige system like this makes sense lol

[tired pond]

Melhor jogo que joguei na vida, não consigo mais parar de jogar ou jogar outro, depois que conheci Warframe.

[swift knoll]

It makes sense for me as someone who played for a very long time

[teal vault]

How come Tenet Detron can't use Semi-Pistol Cannonade? It's a semi-auto Secondary

[muted plank]

It has an alt-fire that empties the mag in full auto.

[cunning moon]

how can i make AOI get into the backrooms?

[pure gulch]

loved status with her

[daring parrot]

rank 5 with the hex i believe

[pure gulch]

can date her at close but i don’t think she’ll move in before loved

[zenith plaza]

anyone wanna run steel path missions i need unlock all the planets havent played ina long time

[round parrot]

probably a silly question, but I've started playing Yareli more and enjoying using just pistols, is it worth using a glaive instead of other melee? also why are glaives so highly regarded? never really enjoyed using them in the past...

[paper prairie]

they are quite easy to mod

and very powerfull due to force slash procs at least on the glaive prime in the explosion when you throw them

The xoris is really good too as the glaivee prime is quite expensive

as it have force electric proc you can pair it with melee influence and it works well too

[round parrot]

I've already got a glaive prime, so that's not an issue. I'll give it and the Xoris a try later on.

Didn't know about the forced procs, could be very handy for CO effects?

[boreal pier]

keep in mind CO never applies to area of effect weapons which includes detonating glaives

[paper prairie]

yeah but whith the slash procc believe me is more than enough

[paper prairie]

thanks i didnt know that

[round parrot]

was thinking more for follow-ups, but that's good to know

[boreal pier]

o yeah its kinda slow for priming

no matter what you mod its only really the one force procced status

[paper prairie]

the only one i will consider is the xoris

[sudden flame]

@sudden tendon you around?

[strong field]

Does it not apply to hate incarnon projectiles?

[tranquil kayak]

I've been raiding the Kuva Fortress constantly and my Lich still hasn't shown up

He knows I have the combo and am going to put him in the ground

it's so tedious to hunt a Kuva Lich

[boreal pier]

it applies to those ye

just not the aoe

[muted bloom]

Whats better?

[boreal pier]

right

actually pretty juicy tbh

[tranquil kayak]

oh ok cool game thanks a lot

so I would have killed my lich but for some reason my requiem mods changed to something completely different

Lohk, Oull, and Vome instead of Xata, Netra, Lohk

I don't know how the hell Vome got in there

but now I need to find my lich again

[haughty fulcrum]

how good is this not really that smart when it comes to rivens

[tranquil kayak]

I hit him with Xata and Lohk, the second one being wrong, and the only change I made to my Parazon was switching Lohk with Netra to put it in the right order. Then suddenly I have Oull, and a completely different mod that isn't even in the sequence

[tranquil kayak]

It's fine. Not great, but fine.

[haughty fulcrum]

did a few rolls what about this

[tranquil kayak]

That's better than the last one

[hearty marten]

I wonder if this counts as a bug? When I use auto install mods on my Railjack, it won’t use an Aura mod. It always leaves that slot empty

[tranquil kayak]

Negative magazine capacity doesn't matter on a gun with infinite ammunition

[haughty fulcrum]

true

[weak iron]

Ironically if the dispo were higher it'd be extremely bad. As is it's likely usable in place of a cold 6060 but not great. And ur technically wasting your Kuva. Not an issue, I do it too if I like the weapon (Xoris is the one I'm rolling rn) but the low dispo means a riven wont make you much stronger even with a good roll.

[weak iron]

Stop rolling. I think this might actually be almost godroll? 3 +s better than 2 but on this dispo those +s would be tiny. That negative literally is better than/the same as -zoom.

[haughty fulcrum]

im trying to get into riven farming so what is this dispo

[weak iron]

It's a weapons riven strength rating

Basically, in the past a weapons strength would determine it's dispo. Bad weapons have high dispo, good weapons have low dispo.

So if a roll had +crit chance +multishot, on a riven with a 0.5 dispo it might have like 54% crit chance and 62% multishot, whereas on a 1.5 dispo it'd have 100% crit chance and 105% multishot.

Not correct numbers, just guessing for the sake of explanation. The difference between max and min dispo rivens is massive though, and it totally affects whether a riven is worth having.

[weak iron]

And the part about how dispos are decided is no longer true because they don't really update them anymore, incarnons mean some of the best weapons in the game also have the best dispos, and all new weapons are released with minimum dispo. So check wiki if you are considering buying a riven or something

[haughty fulcrum]

ahh ok

[pure gulch]

disposition in short - the higher dispo->the higher the stats on the riven will be

[weak iron]

Totally worth rolling a bad dispo riven if you really like the weapon but you wont get as much out of it. I'd stop rolling that Grimoire one cozz that's a very good roll.

[pure gulch]

lower dispo weapons often not really worth slotting a riven in because the stats can end up being lower than other mods

[lofty garden]

Disposition is a multiplier applied to the stats on the Riven.

[willow bluff]

anyone has ever used verdilac's projectile attacks?
I'm thinking to build it for navigator ivara

[lofty garden]

Three filled circles is approximately 100%, but the specific multiplier is listed in the Wiki for every weapon.

[weak iron]

Which is super useful for checking what the stats will be on your weapon when changing variants (assuming you do not yet have all the variants)

[lofty garden]

No one uses Lato Vandal or Braton Vandal. It's great.

[weak iron]

Why is that great?

You use them and are happy aboot dispo?

[lofty garden]

The less a weapon is used, statistically, the higher its disposition.

No one uses them. That's more because few have the incentive to farm them than them being "bad", but it works for me. I have a Lato riven that makes the Vandal with an Incarnon adapter a monster.

[weak iron]

Yeah rivens on incarnons are a massive overshight

I'm torn tbh. I wish they'd fix dispos cozz I have a few garbage weapons that have garbage dispos that I wish were better (ahem, Acceltra), but I'm also abusing Strun bigtime and I'd be super sad if it got nerfed cozz it's my fabourite weapon.

[lofty garden]

It's just math. Unless Struns becomes teh new metah, nothing will change.

[weak iron]

This wont be very true for much longer at the rate they're going. Releaseing bad weapons with low dispos and never really updating dispos.

[strong field]

They still get updated they just don't drop anymore

[weak iron]

Explain Torid then?

It's actually just not gonna change.

[weak iron]

Yeahh but the updates are too smal to mean anything.

[lofty garden]

I mean, you can complain in the forums, see if anyone gets on your side.

I don't use Torid, personally. It looks icky.

[weak iron]

Nope

I'm more happy about my OP Lex, Strun and Boltor than sad about Acceltra

[weak iron]

Same.

[haughty fulcrum]

so how much would u say i can sell it for

:3

[weak iron]

I habe no idea tbh

If Grimoire dispo was 1 I'd say go high but idk how much people will pay for a good roll on a bad dispo.

Weapon is popularish, riven roll is very good but not quite godroll, dispo is poo.

What are the %s with the riven maxed?

[haughty fulcrum]

someone in the game tells me the cheapes is 2k and someone else says its not worth that much

[haughty fulcrum]

thats the %

[lofty garden]

One wants your riven for cheap, one is trying to sell an equivalent riven.

[sudden flame]

30-40pl

[weak iron]

Both are probably wrong.

[weak iron]

Ahhh it's like, usable but not great, even though it has the right stats.

Cheapest multi/cd roll on wfmarket is cc cd multi -fr and is 1k, next is yours but with +cc too and that's 4k.

I'm gonna take a guess and say no one is gonna buy either of those. Try 1 or 2k for a week depending on how lucky you feel then drop to like 600 or so?

Is also time vs price

[sudden flame]

this is insane cope

[pure gulch]

fyi if anyone needs forma teshin got 3x bundle for SE this week if you haven't already gotten it

[weak iron]

Some people are dumb enough to think dispo doesn't matter.

Infact I had an arguement with someone who's highly active here last week because he has achieved enlightenment andnwanted to inform me that dispo is a scam people use to buy your rivens cheap.

[weak iron]

Ohhh ty! <4

[haughty fulcrum]

thank you for that info

[haughty fulcrum]

will do

[weak iron]

It's probably not wirth that, but personally I always start off slightly undercutting the crazies just incase I get lucky, then give it a couple weeks and lower price.

[haughty fulcrum]

is there a way to check exactly how much a riven costs

[lofty garden]

I mean, if you crack open everyone's headfruit and look, maybe?

[weak iron]

No idea. I don't think so

Kekw

Oh it's new week. I can get fast Kuva to waste on Xoris now.

[lofty garden]

Rivens are completely player-driven. All DE does is stir the pot occasionally.

[sudden flame]

me dumping 35k kuva a week into my perfect falcor riven for no reason

[weak iron]

Oh dude I could never click the roll button on my Strun riven

Imagine accidentally setting yourself back to a garbage roll?

[sudden flame]

haha i do go very careful everytime

[weak iron]

[sudden flame]

damn saryn is rlly fun with cerata

[weak iron]

You going for a specific number or just "eh whatever"?

[sudden flame]

shame i dont have green shards

[sudden flame]

only way it can be better is like 9% higher cd and a better neg cos its corpus rn

[weak iron]

I needa make my Saryn useful. Dunno how to build her tbh. Is gloom a decwnt option, I can't explain why but it sounds fun for Saryn.

[round parrot]

and here was me thinking I got lucky with the one I run for Wisp+Book

[sudden flame]

i personally jus turned her into a melee platform with wrathful cos toxic lash effect is doubled on melees

[weak iron]

Yeah -corpus -infested may aswell be harmelss usually but I hate having them.

[weak iron]

It sortof is tho cozz you can replace a tox mod. His roll would cost a modslot and it isn't better than any mod you'd usually use.

[round parrot]

fair enough, it's just that I don't like using this riven on anything other than Wisp because of the fire rate. having a general use one would be good.

[sudden flame]

shes defo super fun shes my main focus atm

just making a full investment mirage and saryn

[weak iron]

I have 2 of them. Went 3 umbral forma on one cozz.... reasons. (Cozz I have a spare I can make a real build on)

[sudden flame]

mines eating its 8th forma rn lol

and cerata getting 2 more for dispatch movement

[haughty fulcrum]

i ranked up to mastery 14 yesterday

[lofty garden]

Only 16 more to go.

[pure gulch]

shoutout narmer bounty

[haughty fulcrum]

how long would that take

[weak iron]

Around 32 days or 3 years

[haughty fulcrum]

:/

[weak iron]

My point is that it depends on how much you hate yourself.

[lyric lotus]

[pure gulch]

also I got this during a narmer bounty when it supposedly drops from index enemies so did I get an index enemy spawn in vallis?

[weak iron]

Hmm maybe one of the dromes in some of the missions is the same as the one from index?

[haughty fulcrum]

does this answer ur qn ;-;

[weak iron]

Not really tbh.

[lofty garden]

Mactics made it to LR4 in about 600hrs, with rad shares from viewers to help him get vaulted primes.

[covert lily]

man afflictions is just stupid. Did anyone even test this arcane out before releasing it or is this really what they wanted it to do?

[lofty garden]

Really depends on if you want to grind gear. MR30 lets you leave a lot of hard to get gear on the table, like ambassador, shedu, braton/lato vandal, sporothix…

Brakk, Detron…

Infested k-drive board…

Harrow, Ivara…

All of Stalker’s weapons…

Hespar…

Anywho, lots of low hanging fruit to pick.

[pure gulch]

tbh if you just play you might passively get the stuff for some of the harder to get things

and I mean the "harder to get" things you can get from normal playing like you mentioned Brakk/Detron/stalker weaps etc just while trying to get other stuff than them specifically

[lofty garden]

Yeah, just stay marked by grustrag 3/zanuka while getting invasion weapons and those two should just happen

[pure gulch]

I've got a spare Detron just from playing and Brakk is missing one part granted I also haven't had a G3 spawn in a while

[lofty garden]

The wind up for them is so funny.

[pure gulch]

ayoo

only 150k driven though :D

[covert lily]

We got ourselves a speedster here, officer

[mild cloud]

Hes been speeding on the highways

[dusty shore]

Hi, I'm new here going through the "intro steps" So hi all Tenno's hoping you have a good gaming day 🙂

[covert lily]

K-drives races would be way better multiplayer minigames than our current options, if they could snapshot courses for a social game

[pure gulch]

passively grind them too with getting ventkids standing

but yeah its not that great lol

[covert lily]

Solo it’s miserable even though the controls really aren’t that bad as comparative sports things go because we don’t have any real reason to master them outside of stunting ill-fitting hallways as Yareli

[pure gulch]

free MR with the boards too ig

[covert lily]

Sure, but it just compounds that the major function of grinding out the board is going out of your way to do lonely flips in a circle

It’d be heaps more fun in a long traveling MMORPG setting, really

[pure gulch]

races best for that too imo and just spread the full leveling over a couple days and its not that bad

[worldly dome]

can people PLEASE stop leaving my Duviri run

3 F*CKING MIGRATIONS

I wish you could enable a setting or something to BEG for the host in an activity

[lyric lotus]

go solo

[tribal canopy]

A shame there isn’t atomicycle races

[weak iron]

That's hot

[lofty garden]

Run Duviri solo

There's no reason to run it with other people.

More authentic that way, too.

Cross is up to running Circuit. 🙂

[solemn spoke]

But who's going to get decrees for me while I exclusively fish stuff

[lofty garden]

If that's what you're in Duviri for, then yes, you deserve to be host migrated. 🙂

Cross, never having used Gauss. Chat says read abilities. "I don't have time for that!"

The authentic new player experience.

[plucky kayak]

yo

[tender dome]

so I've been out of warframe for a while, I got my first leech years ago, was a crap weapon, and way to much "effort" to farm the requiems to kill it...
so now that's been 2 weeks that i'm back... I think it's time to kill it lol
do I still need to grind the kkuva something missions for the requiem relics? for then getting the requiems?

[lofty garden]

relics will drop with around a 5% drop rate from thralls.

[muted plank]

Did someone say Gauss?

[lofty garden]

You then go open those relics in specific Void Fissure missions to try and get the requiem mods.

You can grind for relics separately, but I don't recall ever having done that, and I'm sitting on like 30+ of each Requiem relic.

[velvet bough]

Did warframe collab with overwatch????

Is that the lotus?????

I did this in the wrong channel sorry guys

[tender dome]

can i do a survival mission to farm a decent amount of relics from the thrals? or they have limited number of spawns?

[muted plank]

Thralls have a limited number of spawns.

[lofty garden]

For lich missions, there are up to 10 thralls in a mission. If a lich joins the mission, they can spawn up to 10 of their own thralls.

[muted plank]

Best place to get the maximum Thralls are long missions like Survival and Defense so there’s plenty of time for them all to spawn.

[lofty garden]

I mean...

[pure gulch]

how long does it take to get one caliban part: long

[south steeple]

well in defense there are always 2 each round

[lofty garden]

You can also just be patient in an Exterminate.

ok, if it's guaranteed two per wave, then a defense makes sense.

[muted plank]

You can also have a chance to get requiem relics from Kuva Siphon missions and a guaranteed relic from Kuva Floods.

[lofty garden]

But Kuva Flood and Kuva Siphon are much better chances in rotation A for a relic.

[south steeple]

yeah but imo takes longer than other missions, but I also just have some average builds where I dont instantly nuke everything

[lofty garden]

25% for Flood, and 12.5% for Siphon.

[muted plank]

Wait is Flood not a guaranteed relic?

[lofty garden]

oh, might be, I am looking at a specific relic.

Yeah, you're correct, flood will drop one of the four, guaranteed.

I personally just methodically gather Murmur and make sure enough Thralls spawn per misison node.

By the time I have two of the three requiem mods revealed, I usually have several relics.

[muted plank]

I’ve kinda reached the point where I have so many relics that I will likely never have to farm them again unless I ever decide to get 60% on all my weapons. I have about 50 of each relic.

[covert lily]

I cashed in on them when you could get a quick 15-20 a pop for any requiem Very low effort farm.

Luckily I hear we don’t need them anymore for the coda

[muted plank]

15-20 platinum per requiem mod?

[covert lily]

Yep. But people stopped buying them much with general market dip

[muted plank]

I might have to become the next Hermos.

[covert lily]

You can still just unload all your nightwave creds on sprint boost for low effort farming, for some reason lots of people go for it

[muted plank]

There’s only one explanation.

[next kiln]

Would

[covert lily]

Can’t relate. I stopped playing gauss when I realized smashing your face repeatedly into walls wasn’t the most effective use of his buttons.

[lofty garden]

Woot! Mod drop chance booster.

Now I can go farm for that railjack mod I will never use.

Cross has never played Alchemy. This is good.

[neat pelican]

Why is it good?

[lofty garden]

It shows what somene who has never played Alchemy does, which is treat the mission like an Exterminate. 🙂

[maiden granite]

What did you run to get the stuff? Deimos bounty?

[lofty garden]

Caliban?

Caliban comes from... Narmer.

And I think Narmer bounties move based on time of day? Something like that.

[maiden granite]

I am confusing two

That’s right

Ok…i should do those for the mods

[warm cove]

Tenshin Duviri Talking Gif

[azure stream]

anyone know the most profitable faction mods off the top of their heads? (red veil)

[devout burrow]

idk if you are asking for augments or faction mods

[obsidian snow]

toilets

[serene pike]

Chat, who made the warframe, Albect of ballas?

[stray harbor]

reroll or nah

[stray harbor]

ballas, as seen in the second dream/prime trailers

[serene pike]

Ok, so why do the hex blame albrect, did he use the formula ballas made on the hex?

[stray harbor]

yep + the hex (until the drifer showed up) would have no way of knowing about ballas

[serene pike]

Touché

[hallow berry]

||as noted from a quincy chat log its believed Albrecht did that to the hex in case we didnt have warframes in the past||

[serene pike]

I hate ballas, with a burning passion

[stray harbor]

dont we all

i need to buy more knives for my ballas portrait

[pallid canyon]

Think of Albrecht as santa’s evil helper

who was actually just doing his own stuff in the background

[serene pike]

But he dosent seem too bad though, just doing what needs to be done, no?

[hallow berry]

Hes... Indifferent 🙂

[pallid canyon]

It was Albrecht’s idea to mix the infested with people

[serene pike]

…..

Really?

[stray harbor]

buut his perception of what needs to be done is heavily warped from void exposure + orokin culture + whatever baggage he has going on

[serene pike]

Touché

I kinda like him yk? To me he’s just an anti villan

[stray harbor]

yaa i get it! i love his character

[pallid canyon]

Albrecht is also possibly the reason we’re dealing with the man in the wall right now

[serene pike]

I always hear him murmuring things to himself

[serene pike]

I would say that’s more us than Him

Bc we made the deal beffore he did, no?

[heavy quarry]

Hi hi does anyone know what rank I have to be to buy coprite from old man Suumbaat?

[pallid canyon]

he was the first person to come in contact with the void

“Albrecht Entrati - Orokin scientist known for being the first one to access the Void.”

[serene pike]

Ahhhh, true

[pallid canyon]

“Ancestor of the Entrati family, Albrecht Entrati was the first to discover the usefulness of the Void by attempting to voyage into it. There he would discover an eldritch being that attempted to communicate with him.”

[serene pike]

We wouldn’t have been able to do it if he didn’t first

I see

[hallow berry]

We were the first to mutually use void, everyone else stole it

[stray harbor]

off topic but mann i wish you could fast forward hex chats you've already seen 😭

stuck in a long chat with eleanor

[serene pike]

Let her yap bro

But Wally is terrifying, I really can’t wait to see what he does in the end

I personally feel like our operator/drifter is going to have to fight all the warframe we have. Because Wally will control them all

[stray harbor]

honestly? my bet is that we do the same thing that we do with the warframes, see inside ugly things and take their pain away

[serene pike]

Bc, we only have transference because of HOM

[muted plank]

I can’t wait to defeat Wally by getting wild with Arthur.

[serene pike]

I doubt it bc he’s literally an elderdritch horror, not a tormented soul

[pallid canyon]

wally doesnt have pain

[serene pike]

NOOOOOOOOOOO HIS ONE WEAKNESS. THE RAINBOW

[pallid canyon]

he is the great indifference

[stray harbor]

aren't they though? their first experience with well, ANYTHING, was entrati of all people. and it has been shown that he 'absorbs' (might be the wrong term) parts of people who enter the void

despite being the indifference, it's been forced to take on human emotions

[hallow berry]

Im p sure hes just lashing out because someone took the top of his head

[serene pike]

That’s a good point actually, he may have taken entratis emotions and that’s why he’s always so blank and for lack of better words, indifferent

[serene pike]

LOL

[stray harbor]

and also why it decides to mess with people, because it took on some of the childish-ness of our operator :3

ALSO why the only way to defeat that thing is with love

[serene pike]

When was that said??

[stray harbor]

iirc hex finale?

[covert lily]

Couple times, whispers also

[pallid canyon]

ok but how like

[muted plank]

Albrecht directly says in the quest that it’s weakness is love.

[serene pike]

In the walls?

[sudden flame]

epitaph took the priming label as an insult

[hallow berry]

Yeah its the conclusion Albrecht wanted us to get to

[pallid canyon]

literal is that

[serene pike]

Must have missed it

[pallid canyon]

because thats probably not very literal

[covert lily]

But I would also take that as in the sense that one of the main ways the Indifference is able to wield power is by manipulating people

[woven spruce]

Yes

[covert lily]

so whether we are able to defeat it personally through love, which seems dubious, we keep it contained by breaking its control

[serene pike]

Mabey the indifference is so strong because it feed off the emotions of the adults that were in the void

Personally, I feel like the idea of love is just a bit of a cop out, but at the same time though the way they are writing it makes sense

[lofty garden]

They just want to come inside and eat your brains.

[pallid canyon]

the majority of people who’ve been in the void were NOT the adults of the Zarimon

[serene pike]

Bc, that’s the one thing out operator barley knows, and therefor Wally wouldn’t know at all

[stray harbor]

idk, personally i just think straight up fighting/trying to wound the indifference goes against the themes of the game especially now in the void war arc

[pallid canyon]

There have likely been millions of grineer and corpus dragged there after its late discovery by the new solar system’s factions

[covert lily]

I don't think a knock down fight is really something that happens, yeah.

[serene pike]

That’s probabbly why it’s so aggressive, nothing but rage from the grenier and naught but greed from the corpus

[pliant trench]

which wf under this category?

[pure gulch]

Fortuna Narmer bounties

[covert lily]

The game is weighted heavily on the theme that we are trying to do our best in a continuous age-old struggle to keep the balance so people are able to live their lives, not that we ever defeat the great evils.

[pallid canyon]

ok but the grineer are angry because they are ugly (the operator says so so it must be true!)

wally is not an ugly grineer

[serene pike]

But what If he takes the emotions of those trapped in the void

[pliant trench]

nvm found it

[pallid canyon]

hed get over it because hes not grineer slop strain

[pure gulch]

also this mystery I figured during all of the grinding, this, Pain Threshold, Flux Overdrive, Thermagnetic Shells and Guardian Derision drop from the Narmer Coildrive you take over if that is in the bounty :D

[indigo bramble]

You could hypothetically wreck with Lavos on this

[covert lily]

My own impression from the way they've been describing the Indifference now is that it is not really constrained to the ideas, emotions and feelings it observes. Rather it puts things together with them and plays with them like toys.

[pallid canyon]

voruna and koumei

each individual status affecting targets makes up the buff

noth the number of stacks

but the number of status

[indigo bramble]

Doesn't the dumb threads of fate put a status on for each one they yeet through

[pallid canyon]

so assuming you can apply eveey status, you will cap off at 13 stacks

[pallid canyon]

yeah, her and voruna really put the arcane to work

Revenant does too

[pure gulch]

le grind for helminth caliban is done

[covert lily]

You can use impetus quite effectively on Cyte actually

as long as you keep refreshing status you keep all your stacks, so you can just go down the line with resupply

[pliant trench]

uh i forgot cyte resupply exist

alright time to break some fps

[sonic heart]

I need help

[indigo bramble]

I thought about that but isn't the cooldown a thing

[pallid canyon]

its actually not bad since it resets the timer every time you apply a new status

for ALL stacks

[covert lily]

yup, can keep it up forever

[pallid canyon]

using both augmented and impetus has allowed be to run overextended comfortably on voruna

so i have like a 45+ meter status nuke 🙏

its so peak

[sudden flame]

49m voruna nuke is goated

[pallid canyon]

"But you need fury for damage cap!" like no you dont

[sudden flame]

never use fury on my melee builds ever ngl

[pallid canyon]

i use it on volt

but like, voruna does NOT need it

[sudden flame]

not at all

wrathful subsumed over her 4 w precision intensify

= !!! dmg cap

[pallid canyon]

i dont even use Precision

[sudden flame]

i like to jus cos dunny numbers

[pallid canyon]

Atleast 4.3 billion damage

without fury

[daring parrot]

i'll never understand how people do this 😭

[pallid canyon]

definitely dont need it

[sudden flame]

wrathful advance + any damage buff

[pallid canyon]

its mostly priming

[sudden flame]

dont even need priming on mirage lmao

[pallid canyon]

The right combination (Viral, Corrosive, and Cold are the ideal pull with Voruna)

some frames just dont need it

[daring parrot]

i nearly always have 10 cold 10 viral 10 corrosive + other random elements on an enemy and highest i can ever reach is like 20 million

[pallid canyon]

Khora, Chroma,

[sudden flame]

either using a bad weapon or not building right then

[pallid canyon]

what weapon and frame do you use?

[daring parrot]

it's still one shotting enemies just not crazy high damage

[daring parrot]

i usually just play yareli and ax-52 as the primary, idk i guess i don't need to get to damage cap if i can reliably kill everything but still

[pallid canyon]

obviously you wont hit damage cap with that setup

Yareli’s best platform is secondaries, to start with

[covert lily]

Hm, Citrine can keep 6 Impetus stacks, that's not terrible

[sudden flame]

mirage is jus beyond based

[pallid canyon]

thats still a good amount of ability strength

[daring parrot]

i use enervate in my secondary anyways so it doesn't even matter if i play her, she's just easy and fun for me

[covert lily]

She's already an energy generator also so can be even more relaxed with ability spam

[daring parrot]

i just use ax-52 and the kompressa with the kompressa being my main source of damage for groups:p

[sudden flame]

jus use a glaive tbh

[pallid canyon]

lame

[sudden flame]

better than being a magi slave

plus glaives are the funnest shi in this game

[pallid canyon]

i think theyre both lame

(my second most used melee weapon is the wolf sledge)

[sudden flame]

i jus like influence glaive cos everything dissapear

and pretty colours

[pallid canyon]

heres my current setup

3 Tau Purple, 1 Tau Casting, 1 Tau Energy

[covert lily]

so exalted melees are capable of producing 7 impetus stacks alone, dunno if anyone actually benefits from that. Maybe Excaliburs who just want to stat stick slash dash more

[hallow berry]

Im starved for amber shards due to rng are hunts, netracells/arch and bird 3 the only sources for them? Or am I missing something?

[covert lily]

occasional shards from 1999 depending on the week

[hallow berry]

Damn so no real grind for em, is there a way to turn my 9 million azure shards into amber? Lmao

[azure stream]

does chipper not sell archon shards anymore?

[covert lily]

bird 3 stole his stock

[azure stream]

:(

[serene pike]

Hey kiddo..

[red vale]

Okina incarnon is a no brainer choice ?

Then what sicarus or sybaris?

[pure gulch]

Okina, Sybaris and Dera I have tried myself and are all imo solid, Sicarus I have too but haven't installed, I'd imagine any 2 of those 4 (with likely Okina and something else if you don't have any) are good

[leaden obsidian]

Sybaris, okina, dera and sicarus are the 4 I’d recommend

I only have sicarus out of those tho, I miss when it was busted to absolute perfection

[red vale]

So first 2 picks will be okins and sybaris

[red vale]

still good ?

[leaden obsidian]

It’s still alright, dual tox is still better unfortunately

[red vale]

I will get okina and sybaris then

And you sicarus from cavalero or wait

[next kiln]

give the one on the right a hug fr

[pallid canyon]

yeah but thats like

really lame

[sudden flame]

anyone have red veil maxed and could get me the saryn augment?

[pure gulch]

if you still need I can get it for you in a little bit

[sudden tendon]

@sudden flame it was 4am for me when u pinged me lol i was sleeping

[pure gulch]

if bro still needs saryn aug I can hop on now

[lyric garnet]

man, modding just doesn't make sense sometimes

you can't stack pistol gambit and creeping bullseye, but you can stack target cracker and hollow point

[leaden obsidian]

Well, you can’t have red crits galore

[lofty garden]

Just get a riven.

[lyric garnet]

Exactly lol

[bleak ice]

hewwo

[leaden obsidian]

Hello

[kind hedge]

Is sevagoth bugged?

[daring parrot]

in what way

[kind hedge]

Nuke doesn't seem consistent

at all

[zenith zealot]

guys alot of ppl tell me that u cant run out of energy with revenant but i dont really get how this works

[orchid oak]

Is the korb or peye better for the sepfahn?

Using the ekwana II jai for the link

[summer slate]

fam wei think wei discovered what orokin cells were inspired by: cuttlebones

[sudden tendon]

i think u gotta hop off warframe for a bit

u play too much

[patent crag]

do affinity orbs affect all equipment or jsut the currenly held one?

[red vale]

Only equipped

Tennos which are the best arcanes to dissolute from loid ?

Eidolon / duviri?

[peak moth]

Dante or frost?

[daring parrot]

dante

[peak moth]

Ima go farm him then, I need an end game frame

[lofty garden]

Mooo...

[peak moth]

??

[sudden tendon]

frost is very viable endgame

question more so is do u like defence

[peak moth]

Defence missions. FUUUUUUU NO

[sudden tendon]

yeah go dante then lol

[peak moth]

Bet

Does he have good skins???

[sudden tendon]

dante?

[peak moth]

Yee

[sudden tendon]

he has 1 helm

thats it...

[upbeat pecan]

No is the answer

[peak moth]

Crazy

[sudden tendon]

yeah the helm looks like trash

[peak moth]

My fashion frame end with titania then

[sudden tendon]

i mean base dante looks fine

[peak moth]

Just fashion frame

[sudden tendon]

yeah i guess u cant do too much

[peak moth]

Any thought on a dante prime coming?

[sudden tendon]

like 2 years or so

[peak moth]

His parts have a 5% drop...

[daring parrot]

or just buy them with the currency

[sudden tendon]

theres a pity system with the vessel capillaries

[daring parrot]

he's a very easy farm

[peak moth]

What currency?

[sudden tendon]

.

u get it from doing the dante mission

[peak moth]

Pity system?

[sudden tendon]

yeah like its not completely rng

u will get him eventually

cause u can just buy him with the currency

[peak moth]

What currency from who?

[daring parrot]

talk to loid

[sudden tendon]

vessil capillaries

[daring parrot]

"research dante"

[peak moth]

570 of those things..

[sudden tendon]

well thats if u straight up dont get any

if u get the bp thats half of it

[peak moth]

Ig

[red vale]

Tennos which are the best arcanes to dissolute from loid ? Eidolon or duviri arcanes

[sudden tendon]

eidolon

theres barely any worth duviri arcanes

[peak moth]

Why can't I walk back into the backrooms?

.

Can you not do wallpaper in the backrooms?

[fair flame]

ohh. ok game what you trying to tell me.

[dire finch]

1% chance to do 3.2x less?

[fair flame]

its - negative

[red vale]

I need one arcane maxed out from Duviri

[sudden tendon]

Ur better off buying eidolon arcanes then selling them to buy it r5

[next bramble]

any special headshot interactions with Scourge?

[covert lily]

aside from Mirage's Mirror Ball?

[leaden obsidian]

Mirages mirror ball has a special interaction with scourge?

[covert lily]

Yeah it bugs out to deal massive damage

[leaden obsidian]

[covert lily]

s'what people are running with the prism guard thing

Ok, after testing different candidates off and on throughout the day, I have an Opinion on Arcane Impetus users
Great - offers strong stat boost that the frame wants at minimal opportunity cost
Dante, Lavos, Titania
Good - frame has more significant opportunity cost or doesn't benefit quite as much from stats but could potentially use it in a build
Koumei, Citrine, Cyte-09, Excalibur
Middling - doesn't really affect what the frame is capable of in a significant way or much worse than another option
Mesa, Inaros, Ivara, Voruna, Gauss
??? - Chroma, Baruuk, Loki; They can do it but I can't be bothered to figure out if it's useful

[pearl parcel]

hey sapi, how do pirates measure distance

[fair flame]

why dose no one talk about this gun its still amazing for an AR that came out in 2014

[covert lily]

in yaaaaarrds

[pearl parcel]

god damn you

well, how do captains of ships measure distance

[covert lily]

they make someone who works do it?

[pearl parcel]

no sapi

in keel-ometers

[restive warren]

[fair flame]

Kath i had a problem. i need to barrow you crit kat

[strong field]

I wonder

Can you go negative CD

Imagine, 75% chance to deal less damage

[vague dew]

hi

[strong field]

Neg CD is a stat in rivens, I should try this out

[languid path]

i love augment mods so much

they're so much cooler than helminth I wish we got them more often

[strong field]

Why not both

[languid path]

the way people talk about helminth isn't as fun

it's just "put gloom/nourish/roar/xata/eclipse/pillage on x frame"

i think there's more fun in augment mods

[covert lily]

Mm, there’s like one person out there with a fun surging blades build or something. The rest is basically The Great Convergence

[strong field]

Just put gloom on xaku (people will think its the best helminth for xaku)

[languid path]

not only that but honestly i don't like using helminth unless it's to clear up a big issue

for the most part i prefer when i can do well it the base kit of a frame, and i'll avoid builds that ask for helminths

[carmine slate]

Does arcane camisado work on revenant's 1st

[languid path]

i wanna play the frame as designed and i feel like that takes away from the fun

[pearl parcel]

chirp, how do pirates measure distance

[languid path]

they eye eye it

[pearl parcel]

no monty, they use YARRds

[rich prism]

.

[pearl parcel]

now monty,what do captains use

[restive warren]

How did you manage to go negative

[languid path]

i dont know

what DO captains use to measure distance?

[iron gust]

.

[fair flame]

Blame Cephalon Samodeus for tampering with my weapon

And yes if your wondering that's the Cephalon who is in charge of rivens. He actually had a name.

[pearl parcel]

Keel-ometers

[safe trench]

right is so much better right?

just having doubts

[sudden tendon]

Are u making viral?

If u making something with the cold then right if not left

[safe trench]

im using this build

[grave sand]

well it can easily replace rime so I would do right

[safe trench]

ok thanks

[strong field]

No clue

[peak moth]

I've done all the planets and the 1999 missions but still no steel path

[strong field]

Check your navigation bar

[grave sand]

They measure distance with their eyes, duh

[peak moth]

Wdym nav bar?

What bar?

[strong field]

The bar that has quests, alerts, etc

Oh wait

[peak moth]

I have arbitration now, but how do I activate steel path

[strong field]

Yea I thought you said arbys mb

I remember vaguely you have to interact with teshin..?

[peak moth]

Oh right

[covert lily]

Only like 15-16 frames left I’d say need a full single ability rework, I’d say. Much fewer than Id been thinking

[strong field]

What frames you have in mind

[peak moth]

I know it would be op titania needs to be able to do stuff in fairy mode

[covert lily]

My list would include: Ash, Atlas, Banshee, Chroma, Ember, Frost, Khora, Loki, Nekros, Oberon, Rhino, Titania, Valkyr, Wisp

[strong field]

Hmm you said single ability reworks. Like what

[peak moth]

Why titania?

[covert lily]

Her 2 is awful to use

[peak moth]

(I love her) oh fr it's worthless pretty much