#gameplay-discussion

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fathom cipher
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im at school xd. i gotta go to the gym too later

timid berry
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ur 7 wyd at the gym

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XD

fathom cipher
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?? 😭

timid berry
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im jk

fathom cipher
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been trying to go back since after my sports injury. i went super hard first day back and im hurting horribly 😭 idk why i tried same intensity as before my injury

timid berry
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cuz ur a fool but ur my fool son ❤️

devout burrow
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abilities that are counted as weapons can crit via arcane avenger

sudden flame
covert lily
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It is absolutely insane how much cetus decor items cost. Old Man Suumbaat must own every hut in Cetus

lofty garden
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He does seem like the unassuming landlord type.

lusty bough
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Does Arc Coil apply electric on diriga regardless what damage types weapon applies?

fair flame
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The ability it's self is electricity damage

lusty bough
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Thanks, just wanted to confirm, also what about assault mode? If i don't have it equipped does it not attack enemys at all with the weapon?

long sphinx
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Is it always worth having a kubrow or pet out to fight with you? I just have it as a puppy at the orbiter atm lol

echo galleon
long sphinx
fathom cipher
lusty bough
lofty garden
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Need a lot of kibble for two pets.

twin depot
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How much was the ui themes for lunar new year last time?

sly shell
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Why is it that my combo multiplier 10x inside of a simulacrum but only 9x in a real game? (Ready steel+Galvanized reflex+Corrupt charge)

sudden flame
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idk thats weird those 3 mods always make 8-9x

lofty garden
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Cross is making the confused face. 🙂

odd lodge
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Which mods should I get to rank 10? I have a lot of endo

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Rolling guard?

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I’m a mesa main

burnt cargo
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got into that big rank

sudden flame
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falcor riven awaits me

heady socket
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What's the best elements n stuff against corpus 😔

sudden flame
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toxin i think

heady socket
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Ok

sudden flame
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yippee

weak iron
dry umbra
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Frankly, using her 4 then her 3 when you find an enemy group makes it more manageable since 4 doesnt have a cd even with the augment

dense copper
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Hey, maybe I'm being a Muppet. But I just crafted the laetum and I'm trying to evolve it to unlock the incarnon form. The first step is get 100 kills, but I've gotten like 300 now and it's showing 0/100, am I missing something?

modest kelp
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As silly as it sounds, did you install the incarnon on it?

dense copper
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Doesn't sound silly, cos I don't think I have. What do you need to do? Speak to callevero?

modest kelp
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Yessir, thats a wonderful first step

dense copper
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Ah. Lol

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Shall go do that then. I thought with it showing up in the arsenal screen, that I didn't need to do anything

modest kelp
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I think you can just evolve it from the arsenal once you hit the minimums, but to get it rolling, yeah go talk to the dude for sure and get it installed

dense copper
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I'm gonna be annoying here, I'm at cavalero, I click "evolve incarnon weapons" but I can't select any upgrades as I've got to do the challenge first. But the challenge is the thing I can't progress

sudden flame
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are you sure it didnt say 100 kills with incarnon form active

dense copper
sudden flame
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hmmm

dense copper
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Terrible image, apologies

sudden flame
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uh oh im out of kuva

marsh linden
dense copper
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Okay, I'll give a go cheers

marsh linden
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Hope it works

modest kelp
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So now you kill 100 enemies with laetum and you can unlock incarnon form

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then each step after should explain the unlock conditions

weak iron
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Unequip sentinel and kill stuff with Laetum. Quite sure that's not supposed to be required for that challenge but to be 100% sure right?

dense copper
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Would never have thought that to be the issue haha.

marsh linden
dense copper
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Kinda funny. But thanks for the help. Now it can go brrrrrr

marsh linden
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Ye

sudden flame
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@fathom cipher had too good of an offer on okina riven

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time to let go😔

weak iron
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Dope, maybe now you can buy Ivara, or Yareli.

sudden flame
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mirage and saryn prime first

next kiln
sudden flame
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tbf i got more than i thought it would

restive warren
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Can't wait for reset so I get last Bellicose I need for Trin and Wisp

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My Dispensory will finally do something with itself

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Also for those curious I couldn't get Bellicose + Motes to chain self-buff (?For lack of better words?) If I wasn't the host.

strong field
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Can I migrate back to this channel please

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People here are much less unhinged than the ones there

restive warren
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There's a part of me that wanna ask what happened and then I remember some things said in General...

strong field
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Nothing worth talking about I'll be honest. Just a lot of toxicity going around and ragebait etc

pure gulch
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how it be sometimes

restive warren
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Should've seen that channel when Jade was launched

lofty garden
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I saw "subsume off Mesa's 4" just now. It appears to be a very silly place.

restive warren
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If I could write up for a thorough brain cleaning so I could forget I would

pure gulch
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in my short stay here thus far I've learned that this place is probably the least silly in the wrong way

restive warren
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... No wonder EDA this morning was an absolute mess if that's what's going on in people's mind

hexed imp
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I’m so confused about this chat with Arthur cause it has no context

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I’ve searched up the text things with Arthur too to see where I’m at and the ones on the wiki don’t show this convo at all

restive warren
pure gulch
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day 3 or 4 or whatever in a row where I see "Frame x/Weapon x can't level cap so its not good" in wf-general

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never escaping that

supple thicket
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Level cap is for nerds

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Real Warframe players play capture only

restive warren
restive warren
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I'm kinda curious

pure gulch
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saw someone talk about how kullervo can't really level cap properly, said "yeah I was at level cap in duviri and it was still pretty iffy can't imagine how its like without all the decrees" and got chewed out for going to level cap in duviri even though I literally agreed with what they were saying

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average day

hexed imp
vale geyser
pure gulch
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lesson learned don't interact with the level cappers saves you from a lot of headache

marsh linden
supple thicket
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Everything works in the steel path if you know how to mod or have the right stuff. I personally don't like spending an hour or two to hit level cap. Kullervo needs some casting speed if you want to go to level cap tbh, but if you're y'know moving you're fine

restive warren
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Beside the massive pencil

hexed imp
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Can I do that on mobile?

restive warren
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Oh

pure gulch
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mobile should have it too

restive warren
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I'm not sure what it is on mobile :s

marsh linden
pure gulch
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yeah hold the image before you send it opens a menu with mark as spoiler option

hexed imp
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Gotcha

pure gulch
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or tap it i suppose works the same

marsh linden
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Hold yeah just tried it

pure gulch
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tap works too

hexed imp
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Thanks

next kiln
supple thicket
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All frames that use overguard are squishy at level cap. Overguard isn't meant to take the full brunt as it has no Dr unless you're using arcane nullifier. It's meant to be a safer shield gate

marsh linden
hexed imp
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That’s what it’s referring to 😭

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Lmaoo

pure gulch
marsh linden
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Havent gotten that one but that reaction gotta be it

hexed imp
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I picked the top one and it worked out lmao

fathom cipher
pure gulch
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rolling guard and overguard shield gating definitely kept me alive a lot better than I had any right to

supple thicket
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If you can I'd recommend a amber shard for casting speed as it makes using his 2 a bit safer but it's personal preference really

timid berry
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@fathom cipher ||what does a spy do when hes cold? He goes undercover||

fathom cipher
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i cant wait to make funkier nova build

pure gulch
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I probably have some shards leftover I could put on him just not bothered yet

timid berry
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thats not whati thought u typed

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cant type what i thought it said

restive warren
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Eternal

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How many Phantasm you at

pure gulch
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when I did the apex tank solo with nyx I got so annoyed at dying to knockdown and not getting absorb up in time I just impulse slapped on 2 tau casting speed shards on her xd but I still probably have a couple of them plus a bunch I could fuse into taus

sudden flame
supple thicket
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I think I have 2 or 3 on her for that and 2 tau reds for strength to hit the 100% defense reduction threshold

clear cedar
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What are your guys frame recommendations for fast Brutus clears? I need to max out Ice Storm lol

fathom cipher
sudden flame
fathom cipher
pure gulch
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I had a silly energy siphon duration build on her just so I could keep the absorb up as long as possible without having to worry about energy

clear cedar
pure gulch
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back in the operation days I just used mesa

fathom cipher
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remind me of the gamemode. just extermination no?

pure gulch
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ascension

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the elevator

supple thicket
fathom cipher
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ohh right

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i mixed up ascension with the dagath exterm

supple thicket
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The best thing you can do is keep on top of the energy

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Other than that it's a waiting game

sudden flame
fathom cipher
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id say titania/jade and an energy support as well

sudden flame
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but i have 3

supple thicket
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Actually protea

lost ice
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What does it mean if it says required two for one with the lock symbol next to a hex member in the Kim?

fathom cipher
sudden flame
fathom cipher
fathom cipher
sudden flame
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3 frames w wrathful

lost ice
fathom cipher
clear cedar
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Thanks for the reccs everyone, I guess it’s finally time to put a potato on Titania 😭

pure gulch
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rank up with the syndicate to unlock more dialogue

lost ice
pure gulch
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bounties or trading in the treasures for standing both work

fathom cipher
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just use for mobility ofc

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could take advantage of jade for more aura buffs for the team

sudden flame
fathom cipher
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and flying

clear cedar
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And I kinda miss playing Jade, she was fun

fathom cipher
sudden flame
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thats shardless

fathom cipher
sudden flame
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🙁

fathom cipher
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no need for purples on mirage. i dont even run primed flow on her

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unless ur going zaw then maybe u want purples

supple thicket
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I wish Jade's flight was a teensy bit faster

clear cedar
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Wait, are Razorflies minions? Could they benefit from Summoners Wrath? 🤔

supple thicket
fathom cipher
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i gotta try xata whisper on i forget who

supple thicket
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Go nuts HappyHyekka

clear cedar
fathom cipher
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oh yeah i gotta try xata whisper slamreli

clear cedar
supple thicket
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I fully agree there. I slam into walls frequently with her. So she's become my Boogeyman

fathom cipher
# sudden flame need purples

here my slam mirage. super overkill lol. pillage for survival purposes and then using arcane fury and augmented for even higher eclipse buff

sudden flame
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tyty

clear cedar
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Also Equinox’s spectre being a summon is kinda baller ngl

sudden flame
supple thicket
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I'm pretty curious about pageflight + summoner's. I don't want to do turbo overkill just yer

fathom cipher
# sudden flame i need a cerata riven now

u can shield gate with wrathful advance pretty well if u run 2-3 cast shards on mirage. just go cata shields tho. then u can gate with mirage's 2 and wrathful. put wrathful over 4 and use precision intensify for even more wrathful buff

clear cedar
fathom cipher
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gets some freaky numbers

sudden flame
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my brain isnt braining how to influence cerata

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guess i put cold to force viral then get an elec riven

supple thicket
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I'm happy that the original Dante 'nerfs' scared away people.

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Showed who was actually using the full kit instead of haha boom

fathom cipher
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dante still op af anyways xd

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just takes a brain

clear cedar
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Yeah that Dante nerf did nothing lol

timid berry
restive warren
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Oh, I'm sorry xD

supple thicket
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The word warden buff left me gob smacked. 66% increase on a free primer? Sign me up. Also making the status damage boost from pageflight intentional but toned down (rip quadratic scaling damage)

fathom cipher
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im dying here in california. too many fires

restive warren
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Ngl with Dante I keep all my buffs up. I should probably rock the one duration arcane buuuut

supple thicket
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Plus it wound up improving every frame that used LoS (except you ember, why are you so weird with that)

fathom cipher
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non LoS shenanigans are kinda funny

sudden flame
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why is high voltage 100p wtf

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cheaper for me to buy an elec riven

clear cedar
supple thicket
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I personally use him as a weapons platform for beam weapons. Convectrix was really funny, and he brought cortege to a usable level

atomic fulcrum
pure gulch
fathom cipher
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my dante is alive and not in the helminth but not built

fathom cipher
clear cedar
fathom cipher
supple thicket
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Lavos better get some drip with his prime

atomic fulcrum
timid berry
clear cedar
atomic fulcrum
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Hit them with that 25k plat godrolled rubico riven meme

pure gulch
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cheapest high voltage btw

fathom cipher
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bro has a monopoly. thats def market manipulation

supple thicket
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His tennogens are some of the best imho

timid berry
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its a baro mod how u not have it

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if u dont have it ur bad (jk btw)

supple thicket
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The kuveal helmet is just soo cool. And the plague doctor skin? 👌

atomic fulcrum
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Ngl everyone should have it

fathom cipher
pure gulch
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I need to buy jolt and I think the shotty 6060 elec mod when they come around next

atomic fulcrum
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Its not alot of ducats

supple thicket
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Can't wait to see the prime parts with them

pure gulch
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I didn't have high voltage before last tennocon tbh lol

timid berry
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do i need to teach u how to farm credits

wanton widget
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Which one is more valuable?

fathom cipher
timid berry
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bad

clear cedar
supple thicket
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Bought it as soon as it appeared. No regrets

wanton widget
supple thicket
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Gotta look good before you get down to business

sudden flame
timid berry
fathom cipher
timid berry
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not left right

clear cedar
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Or just make them completely yellow

wanton widget
sudden flame
timid berry
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yes

fathom cipher
supple thicket
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100% I wasn't expecting to like a hazmat look until lavos knocked on my door

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My next fashion will be a pure white limbo

clear cedar
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Sometimes I wonder if I’m the only person that likes Lavos’ default appearance. He’s goofy

wanton widget
fathom cipher
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my 7-8k plat spent on fashion was not spent in vain

timid berry
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it wont sell re roll it

clear cedar
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And his comically oversized gloves obscure the consoles in Netracells and the 1999 tank

supple thicket
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You wanted to actually see things? This is Warframe, if you can still make out what's going on something's wrong

fathom cipher
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ive been up since 10pm yesterday. its 4pm rn imma get my daily login and conk out

fathom cipher
maiden granite
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Get some sleep crispy

clear cedar
maiden granite
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Chat mom says go sleep

fathom cipher
fathom cipher
sudden flame
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cant sleep when omnia cascade jus appeared

fathom cipher
pure gulch
maiden granite
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Oh yeah i gotta crack relics tonight. I have been so busy i have barely played lately

pure gulch
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let the level cap goobers go crazy over omnia cascade I can commence good ole eepy time

maiden granite
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Then im going on a trip this next week so 😭

fathom cipher
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also ogger set a world record of like 2500 exolizers cleared solo in cascade 😭

fathom cipher
maiden granite
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Holy

supple thicket
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I've had to go under LASIK 1387 times but it's worth it

maiden granite
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Oh crispy are you away from the fires?????

fathom cipher
fathom cipher
sudden flame
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my falcor does more damage than my magistar now what the frick

maiden granite
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Well..glad your house still exists

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How did you manage that?

fathom cipher
maiden granite
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Ugh i know!!

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Im so sorry!

fathom cipher
maiden granite
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Clamps…i have to get clamps..

sudden flame
maiden granite
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Noooooo i dont wanna get clamps

fathom cipher
sudden flame
fathom cipher
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like baseline 300 million and then one time in a fissure with like 3 ppl running growin power i was gettin some funky numbers at really high eclipse buff

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on my slam nova im gettin like 130 million - 170 mil dmg

maiden granite
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He was getting stupid numbers

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And i was goin MY EYES

fathom cipher
maiden granite
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particles everywhere

fathom cipher
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i was flying from corner to corner on that tileset lol

maiden granite
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It’s a fun one to do that on

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I believe i can flllyyy

timid berry
maiden granite
fathom cipher
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valkyr slam funky

timid berry
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Beautiful

sudden flame
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nvm hit an 124m

pearl parcel
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hey luna, hey inbra, hey crisp, hows it

maiden granite
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I used to main Valkyr then idk what happened

fathom cipher
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u can see me in the screenshot lol

sudden flame
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wtf is goin on

pure gulch
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imagine slamming

fathom cipher
sudden flame
fathom cipher
maiden granite
sudden flame
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real

maiden granite
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Talk about ancient

fathom cipher
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fossil

maiden granite
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👵

pure gulch
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how was it like with the dinosaurs

maiden granite
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We also had “raids” still which was fun

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But insanely hard

pure gulch
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I wish I kept playing back in 2020 I know thats still not pre-historic age but still

maiden granite
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I remember getting in squad with the clan and making sure everyone had the exact load outs we needed otherwise we would fail. Rhino’s 4 was insane back then. Stomp once and 3/4 of the map would die if you built him right

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Trinity was a beast. She kept everyone alive

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sigh good times

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Nezha’s fire walk was actually useful too. Especially in defense.

sudden flame
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acolyte dies to a non heavy throw 😭

fathom cipher
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i dont remember the last time i havent one shot an acolyte 😭 whether it be melee with slam or falcor or mag with prisma angstrum

pure gulch
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i dont remember the last time i have one shot an acolyte

timid berry
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It's very easy to do it

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I did it with a arca titron using dagath

sudden flame
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pretty sure they only have like 2m

fast venture
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if y'all go to trade you might see I'm selling 350 ducats of prime stuff for 50p or best offer 🥹

timid berry
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No wrathful

pure gulch
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I play ember or nyx with like burston or latron or something and xoris my ahh is not one tapping acos

fathom cipher
fast venture
sudden flame
fathom cipher
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ok imma conk out now. i need a painkiller

pure gulch
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plus i don't really care if they die in 1 hit or not cus they die alongside everything else in the meantime anyways

sudden flame
fathom cipher
fast venture
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oh okay thank you very much

pure gulch
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I really am way too emberpilled these days to play other frames icl

pearl parcel
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dont take that garbage

fast venture
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so what's a good price then

pearl parcel
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12, and thats at the lower end

fast venture
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12p per 100 is the lower end

pearl parcel
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for rarer 100 ducat parts id haggle for more if ye can

timid berry
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thats the standard why would i give u more plat for a gold part especiallyy if that part is not something meta or powerful

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if its vaulted sure

pearl parcel
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thats a scam

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6p for a hundred ducat is a scam

timid berry
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if its vaulted can go higher if not ur scamming ppl at that point

pearl parcel
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no inbra

fathom cipher
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oh shoot nvm ig im not sleepin. my mouse arrived 2 weeks early

timid berry
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because if its not vaulted and i can farm it its in circulation and readily available

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ur not thinking abt how many ppl are selling that gold part or its availabilty

timid berry
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if its vaulted then thatsa diff story

pure gulch
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sleep and use mouse refreshed

pearl parcel
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6p for a hundred ducats is robbery of the seller, you're scamming folks inbra

timid berry
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im not

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and hes selling in bulk not one singular part

fathom cipher
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thats a totally fair price. 6-8p per 100 ducat

pearl parcel
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like hell it is

fathom cipher
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ducats are easy to grind anyways

pearl parcel
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if you call that a fair price ill keep my prime junk away from you people

timid berry
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gunsen prime blade a non meta weapon in cruculation is and is a gold part price is...

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wheres the scam

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thats a gold part

pearl parcel
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that is the damn scam

fast venture
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yeah but that's Warframe market anyone can set the price to anything

sudden flame
timid berry
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u guys are not looking at supply and demand

pearl parcel
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you people are undercharging like hell, wfm is unreliable as hell cause people adjust the prices unreasonable

timid berry
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thats why u think its a scam

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ok man

fathom cipher
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sleepy says everythings a scam anyways

coral yarrow
pearl parcel
sudden flame
fathom cipher
sudden flame
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ohhhh so u can jus sling in and it breaks them

coral yarrow
sudden flame
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imma go cop

timid berry
pearl parcel
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inbra dont ping me

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not the day, im about half certain i coughed up blood earlier

timid berry
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ok whatever

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its not a scam1

pearl parcel
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it is and if you say otherwise all your doing is feeding the scam you dullar

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dullard*

fathom cipher
coral yarrow
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Keep scamming bro, get your bread up

fathom cipher
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real

timid berry
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@fast venturelike i am trying to explain u have to look at other factors when selling stuff like supply and demand is the weapon meta or used alot and if its vaulted thats how u know what ur stuff worth and understanding why vaulted stuff even if its bad can be worth alot cuz its hard to get aka not in circulation

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whatever sleepy u dont understand how markets and trends work

fast venture
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well I'll try experimenting for now otherwise I guess I'll stick to 6-8p per 100

sudden flame
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tried to send a message about sleepy 3x and discord blocked it every time so

timid berry
fathom cipher
sudden flame
fathom cipher
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real

maiden granite
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bo2?

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What am i missing?

pure gulch
timid berry
maiden granite
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Ty, brain not braining

fathom cipher
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new mouse is mousing

sudden flame
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freaks me out that it’s so light

fathom cipher
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im on the razer viper v3 pro i think? idk but its good

fierce tendon
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WF mobile is actually not bad.

restive warren
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Is it?

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Some 3DS game felt atrocious so let alone other games on a phone

fierce tendon
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Yeah the auto aim is not bad, just aim even if the enemy is really far it hits. Obviously not suited for speed runs or anything but it's there.

restive warren
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Not sure I'd wanna try fetching headshot on a phone

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Ahh

fierce tendon
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You can believe it or not. The player base is there.

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Just like with switch.

restive warren
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I'm not saying it's undoable

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I'm sorry let me rephrase then

fierce tendon
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But I don't see it going upto steel path or anything except if you connect a controller.

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Let alone survival.

restive warren
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"It doesn't seem like a comfortable gaming experience"

fierce tendon
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Yeah.

restive warren
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Some games on certain platform do feel like a speedrun to madness or/and carpal tunnel

leaden obsidian
restive warren
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Whatchu up to Big? HappyHyekka

leaden obsidian
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Nothin, you?

restive warren
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Considering spamming exterminates in 1999 to max arcanes ScottStare

timid berry
leaden obsidian
timid berry
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Time to block

restive warren
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Arcane Truculence & Impetus looks nice WispWow

nova perch
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New year, time to change the colour of my Gyre.

timid berry
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I'll get my hugs from @atomic fulcrum ❤️🫂

leaden obsidian
hardy harness
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finally tried out Reaping Spiral

attack/combo animations look really cool, but I'm not sure if I like them in actual combat tbh

restive warren
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Truculence could maybe make my Styanax functional, polish up my Frost and Dante too

supple thicket
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Nourish and truculence

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I like being a big old battery

restive warren
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Also I sorta wanna see how Impetus perform with Voruna/Citrine

timid berry
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I'd use that om stynax and run roar but I have to test it

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I mat buy another stynax to test it

leaden obsidian
restive warren
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I don't like how his armor strip function, also I like to spam his 4 but it doesn't do enough dmg for some odd reason

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Idk if I built him wrong or somethin' IvaraThonk

nova perch
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Y'all remember what my Gyre looked like before, right?

restive warren
#

Nup

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But then again I can barely remember what I did yesterday

#

Do you still have a pic?

timid berry
#

U don't need armor strip on him the slash from his 4 and nourish from the arcane easy claps

nova perch
#

Previously.

restive warren
#

I like the colors

nova perch
restive warren
#

But the ephemera eats my eyeballs and I can't with the bunny ears

#

It used to be funny around Easter, T'was cute even

#

(Doesn't help that there was a time borderline everyone was rocking 'em. And it's like the one evolving ephemera, I just sorta grew tired of seeing it around)

#

I just started recovering from the "edgy" black/red from around 2018/2019

#

It was everywhere

#

Couldn't see anything else

#

I can enjoy black/red fashion again now

covert lily
#

mm, I tend to be very sparse with signas for same reason

#

will get better as the pool widens maybe

restive warren
#

Sometime with the colors combo it's nice even when it's not thematic, but I'm slowly getting tired of seeing Krios. (And I love Krios)

covert lily
#

Though I do like making druidframe concepts, hard not to go in on the flower crown with that kinda thmee

restive warren
#

I really hope we get more farmable signa

#

Too many buyable one rn

weak iron
#

Where do I do "no alarms" rivens? Was it void?

restive warren
#

Yeah

#

If they haven't fixed it that is

weak iron
#

Kk ty!

restive warren
#

I have yet to find a boop beep consoles so you should be fine

covert lily
#

I'm down from 13k to about 11.5 after the last update and my backrooms splurging, not putting any time in the plat farm after the broad market crash lol

restive warren
#

Plat..?

grave sand
#

11.5k doesn't sound like a cause for concern

covert lily
#

Should ride me out till my next hiatus

leaden obsidian
#

@timid berry 🫂IvaraHeart

restive warren
#

Lunaeus stuff might do a small dent in your plat Sap

#

Other than that... Unless they don't do a bundle that might burn a hole into your pockets with Coda release

covert lily
#

True, last time was Chroma, which is one of 2 frames I don't buy any fashion for.

restive warren
#

Maybe we'll get something for Lavos but considering his prime right around the corner...

#

I guess we'll have to wait n'see

covert lily
#

No one else strikes me as an obvious snake fashion, but they've pulled some wild sets occasionally

#

Maybe Saryn, but she's already got one so better not

restive warren
#

Wait New year will be year of the horse

covert lily
#

Is it? Someone had been telling me snake

restive warren
#

2025 snake yes

#

2026 will be horse

#

assuming we don't have order swap it'll be Lavos, Yareli, Caliban and Gyre

covert lily
#

I believe in the Lavosolypse

restive warren
#

Yeah Dagath prime won't fall on year of the horse unless they skip order again

#

Which they could do near the end of the year near Halloween

#

Dagath perfect for halloween theme

#

Now if only she could ride her honse with pumpkin for head

#

I mean they did skip Lavos

#

I'm sorry I'm just way too hype for a Dagath skin

#

And I guess Lavos because poor pal still doesn't have a deluxe

#

And I really want a snake ephemera

covert lily
#

Excited to have some Lavos mixins. Almost caved and bought another tennogen but I've been a bit loose on my budget with those this year already

restive warren
#

DagathLUL Tennogens are very tempting

#

Both his tennogen are pretty nicely done too

covert lily
#

I haven't done any fashion themed sets for a while so I've been good. That's usually my downfall. Got two to do the pop-star group.

nova perch
#

am bug

restive warren
sudden flame
#

pretty fun running augmented and impetus, and then having a subsume like wrathful or roar etc

restive warren
#

Both strength arcanes sounds overkill but as long as it works

sudden flame
#

oh yeah it was overkill but silliness

restive warren
#

... Says me after shoving Bellicose and augmented on Wisp

sudden flame
#

i was jus trying to get harmony with no crit mods to !!!crit

#

i wanna try wisp with the new melee one can’t remember the name

restive warren
#

To be fair, I'm trying to ramrod more strength for my helminth dispensory (Thought I'm sure there's a cap on it)

sudden flame
#

crepuscular… is that the right one, critical while invis

restive warren
#

Yup

covert lily
#

yeah

sudden flame
#

what’s the cap on it again

#

3x or something

covert lily
#

s'right

restive warren
sudden flame
#

oh it’s just static doesn’t scale i see

#

30% strength + 3x crit

#

i mean that’s pretty nice for invis frames

#

you could probably do crazy stuff with voruna 1 actually…

#

wait that’s crazy i’m cooking

covert lily
#

grandmother's decor rotation is killing me. Stop repeating things lady

sudden flame
#

her 1 gives crit multiplier (1+1 x str) and then additional 3x from crepuscular

#

so a 6x crit multi bonus everytime you press 1

restive warren
covert lily
#

I'm just trying to get the last family token for my family portrait wall embellishments

restive warren
#

I think most decor I've ever seen was Zariman :/

sudden flame
#

and crepuscular is final crit multi so the 1 would kick in first and then be multiplied holymoly i’m doing that tomorrow

restive warren
covert lily
#

I need to do a ton of Zariman farming. Found some good picture frame mats in there I'm gonna use

restive warren
#

Unless there was a Twitch drop that gave me last one I needed and I don't remember

restive warren
#

Lemon turned his orbiter all cozy with it and a friend just made a nice looking kitchenette in her orbiter

covert lily
#

I hope someday they at least half the price of decor on Cetus. Not anything there I need for this build, but g'dang I'd like to not spend 50k standing for one fruit basket

restive warren
#

... I bought one of each

#

T'was pain

#

Would not recommend 0/10

covert lily
#

At least the Quills basically just demand rocks for their garbage deco

restive warren
#

Keep in mind it was back when I was Mr8 and I had the cap for that

restive warren
#

-Awkwardly glance at weekly Archon hunt-

#

Didn't they nerf the drop of the cores in those..?

#

Yet it's still dropping like hot candies

covert lily
#

idk, still had like 2000 last I checked, haven't been turning them in regular

restive warren
#

I wish we had new things to buy from that shop sometime

#

Even if just decorations.

covert lily
#

Basically just used it for vosfor exchange at the height of that, but I haven't bothered for a spell

restive warren
#

Oh

#

Oh

#

That's smart

covert lily
#

Dang it Acrithis, I need my mugs

#

If I can get like 50 of those maybe I won't need to farm so much Zariman mats

restive warren
#

What you need 50 mugs for

#

Are you preppin' a late new year dinner

covert lily
#

Duviri furniture resizes like crazy, it's some of the best stuff for rails and borders

#

Can combine it with some other things for pomp maybe

#

Other good options, Prex and Zariman lids

lilac smelt
#

Question.
What abilities strips armor from acolytes?
Altenativally, what weapons/companions also do that?

#

I'm going to try farming some oro cells solo on SP and i really don't want any of them taking my time

covert lily
#

any armor strip with a target/cone, something like a vastilok with shattering impact was favored for a while

wanton finch
#

crush with the fracturing crush augment is goated

lilac smelt
grave sand
#

I thought pillage worked too

covert lily
#

unless they changed that recently

#

they buffed some of them, don't recall off top of my head

lilac smelt
restive warren
#

Latron incarnon?

lilac smelt
#

I could just not have affected him becouse of my range tho

restive warren
#

But then if you don't want Latron as your primary then you're 🦴 'ed

#

Extra 🦴 even

covert lily
#

Everyone got a free nyx right? She'll do

grave sand
#

pillage takes shields before armor so maybe that

restive warren
#

Free bones for everyone ExcaliburFire

lilac smelt
#

Does unairu strip them?

restive warren
#

IvaraThonk Always a good time for ribs

lilac smelt
restive warren
covert lily
#

Yeah unairu ought to work

lilac smelt
#

My only issue on claping their healthbar in one blow is the armor

lilac smelt
#

I'll check the wiki

covert lily
#

I just kill them with my Rogga most of the time. It's not the fastest but good enough. Don't usually build to worry about them.

restive warren
#

If Unairu and abilities don't work...

#

Then Latron or any melee that can abuse the hek out of-

grave sand
#

at the very least styanax shield throw works

restive warren
#

<@&778745217037238293>

covert lily
#

Damage overkill just been my solution for a while lol

restive warren
#
  • any melee that can abuse Shattering impact*
#

(Also sorry to whichever moderator I summoned)

covert lily
#

Or really sometimes I just kill them with my amp if I don't have much better

#

Coupla phad discs banging around does the trick

lilac smelt
#

And nothing there answered my question.
Either i'm iliterate or nothing there is saying their armor can't be stripped from some abilities, which is the case with some.

lilac smelt
restive warren
#

😭 Lemme copium in the belief I didn't plz

lilac smelt
restive warren
#

(But you're probably right)

lilac smelt
#

Emphasis on was, it now is my first

#

Usually in the start of their launch on SP i just one tapped them with falcor with 5x combo multi and riven

restive warren
lilac smelt
#

Thing is... while my falcor could do the trick, i want to use the melee slot for a slash based weapon to desecrate the bodies

restive warren
#

Nope. I was on Jade herself

lilac smelt
#

Ik, but is her 3 her subsume?

restive warren
#

So maybe it could work, maybe it won't because it's the helminth version

restive warren
lilac smelt
restive warren
#

It's worth a shot tho

#

But that was prior to 1999 update so like, who knows if they patched that with release of 1999

lilac smelt
#

I really wish i had this idea sooner lmao...

#

I could've tested pillage and unairu but now its 11:10pm and the whole family is sleeping ExcaliburLUL

covert lily
#

Didn’t people say that ore gaze build was just as good for farming these days?

supple thicket
#

It scales infinitely with strength afaik

lilac smelt
#

I also think i might have an primed impact mod for melee

#

Statistically nekros vs atlas solo it's just better for atlas yeah?

covert lily
#

I don’t do any kind of focused farming but good luck with ya either way

lilac smelt
#

i just need 30 orokin cells to finish the ingame market weapons
God damnit akjagara

restive warren
#

Well we have Archon Shards now

supple thicket
#

Could just throw petrify on nekros instead

lilac smelt
#

If i remember right there is a guy who posted some videos on minmaxing orokin cells and went with atlas

restive warren
#

And multitudes of arcanes that gives strength

supple thicket
#

Have both for the funny

restive warren
#

Might work

lilac smelt
covert lily
#

Atlas is like a once, twice a year frame for me.

lilac smelt
#

Isn't also atlas more common to appear on helminth buffs?

covert lily
#

Maybe if his deluxe fashion had better textures I’d bite the bullet more, but I don’t really enjoy the punchin

maiden granite
#

What does Atlas do besides spawning rock dudes

supple thicket
#

Punch really hard

lilac smelt
supple thicket
#

So hard he can break an extinction level meteor

restive warren
#

It's fist- yeah no I won't go there

lilac smelt
#

Lmao noooooo

restive warren
#

You have your entire undead army to watch too

covert lily
#

I play so little Atlas I forgot to include him in our who needs a rework discussion

restive warren
#

You're welcome.

lilac smelt
#

Atlas is the punch
Baruuk is the palm
Who are the knees and feet?

restive warren
#

Feet? Certainly not Wisp

lilac smelt
#

I mean like an kicker

restive warren
#

As for knees, idk maybe Volt? he's has the spikiest kneecaps I've ever laid upon

covert anchor
#

Nezha?

restive warren
#

Oh

tulip topaz
#

I just
wanna throw my hat into the ring rq even tho I never have before
speaking of wisp
something is wrong here and I dunno what to say

lilac smelt
restive warren
thorn chasm
#

do the Acuity mods work with Banshee's sonar weak points?

covert lily
#

Nope

restive warren
lilac smelt
#

Imma sound biased, but i REALLY need an kamen rider frame VomEyes

#

More specifically an grasshopper frame

covert lily
#

Ash

supple thicket
#

Double wisp

restive warren
covert anchor
#

That's a lot of power

tulip topaz
#

belicose is in fact

#

rank 2

restive warren
covert anchor
#

34,009% on that mote

lilac smelt
restive warren
#

I'll try R2 next time I crave violence and large amount of HP

tulip topaz
#

the haste mote was so high that my ignis jammed completely
forcing me to use my book

#

tried archgun
all the bullets condensed into 1 shot and my screen did a whole 270 upwards

lilac smelt
#

Did... did your flamethrower reach the maximum fire rate... then got +1 and the game said
"Nuh uh, negative fire rate"?

restive warren
#

How's your- Nvm Wisp don't have a spine

restive warren
covert lily
#

I wish all these terrible search engines with their collapsing algorithms would just link me to the wiki they’re trying to scrape off of instead of putting a worthless blurb in my face

restive warren
#

Trumna next

tulip topaz
lilac smelt
covert anchor
lilac smelt
#

I forgot what i was going to do...

restive warren
#

Nekros things

#

I think

lilac smelt
#

I thought of nekros so hard, my brain went death

supple thicket
#

Nekros buffs next please. I just want the eximus units to be summoned instead of Hank and Frank

lofty garden
#

that's just FIFO

lilac smelt
#

But, i think that is actually the sleep taking over.
It's almost midnight

#

Good night y'all.
Don't commit crimes

potent condor
#

You're not my dad you can't tell me what to do

lofty garden
#

Summoning Priority is already pretty sophisticated.

restive warren
#

I get the casting speed much faster when the shadows already up

#

But it be nice if it was faster as long desecrate was active.

#

Or wouldn't it be thematic enough?

#

Oh man why does it sound so messed up

#

Anyone else remember when you needed to build negative duration

#

T'was funny

supple thicket
#

I'm a bit confused by strong. Does this mean damage wise or health wise or both?

#

Nvm scrolled further

daring parrot
#

do u get more cryotic for steel path missions?

restive warren
#

Good question, gonna check wiki

lofty garden
#

No.

#

As someone who runs SP Excavation as part of Incursions, it's still 200 to exit the mission.

restive warren
#

It makes sense since it's always a flat number

covert anchor
#

I don't think you get resources bonuses from it either?

restive warren
#

I think it was the same in Arbitration too

lofty garden
#

You do get resource booster bonuses on Cryotic.

#

I always run a Resource Booster.

daring parrot
restive warren
#

Used to be affected by Smeeta, but I haven't tried since they changed how that work

daring parrot
#

ah alr ty

restive warren
covert anchor
#

I don't think Smeeta doubles drops anymore?

restive warren
#

...

covert anchor
#

Didn't it get reworked?

restive warren
#

Yes

#

I was hinting at it I thought obviously enough

lofty garden
#

I don't use organic pets. Not going to deal with it dead for half a mission.

restive warren
#

I just keep forgetting the name of the new mod

covert anchor
#

Ah

#

Am stupid

#

Retrieval I believe

restive warren
#

If you cat dies, your adarza mods aren't in the right order

daring parrot
restive warren
#

There's like 3 of them it's hard to keep track of the multitudes of mods in the game now

daring parrot
#

idk how it works exactly now but u can still get some loot with it.

restive warren
#

I used to know most of them by name without needing to use wiki prior Archon update

lofty garden
#

Maybe I'll look into it, but usually a resource booster is enough for me.

covert anchor
lofty garden
restive warren
lofty garden
#

I'm good.

restive warren
#

Only time I'd ever use my Smeets

peak steeple
#

Chat I have a question

restive warren
#

And now I can put Retrival mod on Adarza, Smeeta can stay in jail for all that russian roulette buffs I don't wanna deal with

peak steeple
#

Do I get the azima, zenistar, or sigma and octantis?

restive warren
#

erh most people will say Zenistar

daring parrot
#

chesa kubrow best for farming now anyways

supple thicket
#

Azima HappyHyekka

lofty garden
#

Didn't Zenistar have some sort of synergy, or did something else take its place?

covert lily
#

They're all pretty well power crept, just follow your heart

restive warren
#

(I'm an Sigma & Octantis enjoyer)

lofty garden
#

They're all MR. They come around again.

restive warren
covert anchor
#

Considering only my Smeeta is potatoed I'm probably sticking for now.

restive warren
#

Make Sigma & Octantis great again

lofty garden
#

Has that ejectable disk that does heat damage.

peak steeple
#

I’m going to trust in the heart of the cards

lofty garden
#

Whatever you don't choose will come around again in 200 days.

peak steeple
#

Sigma and octantis here we gooooo

restive warren
#

I love that sword and shield so much

lofty garden
peak steeple
#

I have to wait an extra 100 days bro?

lofty garden
#

But, you take Zenith when it shows up, so...

peak steeple
#

That’s crazy

lofty garden
#

Well, day 400 is Primed Sure Footed, so...

restive warren
#

Primed sure tootsies

peak steeple
lofty garden
#

lists all the milestones

#

That it is.

peak steeple
#

Got the sigma

covert lily
#

200 days in warframe, that's just like 15 baro visits. A pittance

#

Time is an illusion.

peak steeple
#

What have the 3 day crafting times done to our patience?

covert lily
#

Except when I'm waiting for Acrithis to bring me my goddang flasks

lofty garden
#

Eh, you can do other things during that three day wait. If you're not LR4 closing in on LR5, you have plenty of stuff to obtain and craft.

hollow viper
#

Someone got tips for valkyr specter? I'm in Mag (my only warframe right now) and I'm really not used to something that can just see my magnetize ability manifest around them and say 'nah, your ability ends right now' and then one of her abilities apparently just lets her decide 'you are dead' when she activates it and I'm anywhere near her.

hushed vessel
#

da

potent condor
dry umbra
#

Maybe her 4 when she goes invincible and melee

potent condor
hollow viper
#

Just need to get some rhino stuff then... to the wiki it is.

pseudo forge
covert lily
#

Hm, why is there nothing with a loid picture? I'm running out of family portraits

mint berry
# hollow viper Someone got tips for valkyr specter? I'm in Mag (my only warframe right now) and...

Just bubble her, aoe pulse then mag dump, her armour value gets shredded and it’ll mess her up. Keep a distance until her immunity is down and hopefully you’re close enough she’ll instantly die, frankly mag should make it an easy kill, at least from my experience polarise shreads her armour so she just has her HP. the instant kill sounds like she’s either using her 4 or her warcry + weapon is 1 shotting

hollow viper
#

Also, I joined a clan... and I can't even see their MOTD, because 'your access to this channel has been suspended'. I also can't do anything with Q/A chat or trading or such.

mint berry
fast venture
hollow viper
mint berry
#

Should be a straight upgrade to the Beaton, and if you can mod for viral and damage since armour shouldn’t be a problem for a mag frankly

hollow viper
#

Didn't do anything better. She just parries 70% of it.

#

And I'm out of energy.

#

Doesn't help that it was unranked though. So I'll just go hunt these plastids down on phobos.

red vale
#

Anyone gonight voltage ?

supple thicket
#

3 options
Baro
Hive all caches
Buy from another player

vocal ravine
#

hey so i have abuild that has 1200 hp so is it better to use arcane reaper or arcane grace for healing?

hollow viper
mint berry
humble fable
#

I have Zenurik and Madurai what should I go for next?

fierce tendon
#

Get them all maxed out in the end right?

humble fable
#

Yeah but what next yk

fierce tendon
#

Naramon for melee?

covert lily
sudden tendon
hollow viper
#

Okay... got a tiny bit further. Even with the aura mod it'd take a few minutes of running around in circles to regain enough energy to do that again.

covert lily
#

I’m thinking your time would probably be better served grinding whatever other frames and drops are available and ranking up your mods if you’re still stuck on her after all of this.

leaden obsidian
peak moth
#

Top 2 incarnons for primary, Second, and melee, of all

empty remnant
#

Quick someone is saying they are going to play after 2 years I told them dating Sim they Saud huh. I NEED AN IMAGE TO CONFUSE OR STUN

ebon sparrow
empty remnant
#

Be more specific and then maybe can google

leaden obsidian
#

Where inbra

ebon sparrow
#

It's one where she says she loves you and then immediately after offers 'passionate intercourse'

#

Depending on the friend, they may not appreciate that
The Hex can get a little freaky

iron torrent
#

Anyone have some spare zenith granum crowns I can perhaps borrow permanently bc I’m going insane, I’m down 24 so far with no glaxion

pliant trench
#

glaxion drop from granum void?

iron torrent
#

A lich version

pliant trench
#

or we talking tenet one

iron torrent
#

Ye tenet

#

Got cycron 12 times so far

pliant trench
#

ah well keep going til glaxion drop either way crown is untradeable

iron torrent
#

Ik but people can still launch it for you letting you grab the tenet right?

pliant trench
iron torrent
pliant trench
#

cycron should not spawn for 2nd times lmfao

#

what the heck

iron torrent
#

Idk tbh

#

Might just have glitched or something

#

My brain is rotting rn

minor blade
#

which reward should i choose

iron torrent
#

It’s been split between 2 liches

pliant trench
iron torrent
#

Relic pack

pliant trench
minor blade
#

relic ack it is!

iron torrent
#

Same mission every time

#

But so far done between kuva liches each time

iron torrent
#

Might be Kuva resetting it

pliant trench
#

yea got no idea why ur candidates can spawn same weapon each time

iron torrent
#

Probably lich reseting them

#

But if I’m lucky enough I won’t have to bash my head against a wall for too much longer

ebon sparrow
iron torrent
#

I’ll grab it next but I wanna do frost glaxion primary frostbite build

green lance
#

yoooooooooooooo

minor blade
#

i have lotsa cool warframey quests to do

#

i got like, 10 choices 😮

peak moth
#

Whats the best fortuna bounty for Aya?

pliant trench
peak moth
iron torrent
#

Literally any of them

pliant trench
iron torrent
#

If you ONLY want aya do earth

peak moth
#

There was one we were able to do in like 5-6 minutes that was super good but we can't remember which

peak moth
iron torrent
peak moth
pliant trench
#

technically speaking do day bounties

peak moth
#

Any specific earth bounties you recommend

pliant trench
#

tier 5 - and i recommend bring volt

iron torrent
#

Another down and now the diplos

minor blade
#

what do you think of these gnarly weapons

#
WARFRAME Wiki

Aegrit are Grineer throwing bombs that stick to surfaces and can be remotely detonated with Alternate Fire. Its extremely high  Blast damage, Critical Chance and explosion radius are offset by a...

iron torrent
#

Meh personally but use what you enjoy

minor blade
restive warren
#

By the time I enjoyed it, I ran out of ammo

minor blade
#

lol 😄

iron torrent
#

6 shots of aegrit is criminal

#

ITS OVER

#

I ROLLED THROUGH EVERY WEAPON 3 TIMES TO GET GLAXION

solar halo
#

🤨

#

thats impossible

iron torrent
#

I gave up 2 times

#

Zarr then nukor

solar halo
#

unless you were doing something silly like aborting missions instead of completing them to remove that wep from the pool

iron torrent
solar halo
iron torrent
#

Fire pvp btw

proven radish
#

Circuit excavators are so weak man

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Especially when you got thrax units coming in like

iron torrent
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Kuva extractors when a blitz eximus exists

red vale
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How can I whisper a player

iron torrent
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Be quiet I think

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/w

leaden obsidian
fathom cipher
red vale
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Thanks

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Guys another variant or prime of Djin? @fathom cipher

iron torrent
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Something to do with nehza preferably

fathom cipher
red vale
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No variant like prisma ?

fathom cipher
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ohh the weapon. im not sure id the prisma has a stat that makes it better than the prime. youd have to check

red vale
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I mean sentinel

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Sortie sucks

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@fathom cipher You on warframe ?

fathom cipher
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not right now why?

red vale
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Doing bounties and missions

fathom cipher
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where lurker

restive warren
leaden obsidian
red vale
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Doing nightmare missions no hammer shot yet

iron torrent
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2.3% drop rate

grave sand
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1.01% drop rate

tranquil kayak
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How many years does it usually take for a Warframe to get Primed again?

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Is it three or four?

pliant trench
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wait u mean how many year for vanilla wf to be prime or to unvault?

tranquil kayak
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For the base frame to get a Prime yeah

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Is it really 4 years for resurgence too?

pliant trench
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it takes FFMM rotation

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so let take protea release in 2020 then her prime in 2024 = 4 year span

tranquil kayak
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Aye cool

pliant trench
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but then again sevagoth is 2021 but his prime also 2024 = 3 years span

tranquil kayak
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Last Prime was Sevagoth, upcoming one is Lavos. I pray for Yareli Prime next lmao

tranquil kayak
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And... what was the other one

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Not Dagath I'm thinking of another frame

pliant trench
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caliban

tranquil kayak
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Ah yes

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Tauborn Caliban

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Oh Xaku we got Xaku Prime lmao

pliant trench
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FF-MM prime rotation 2025
Lavos, Caliban,Yareli,Gyre,

FF-MM prime rotation 2026
Styanax,Kullervo,Voruna,Citrine

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for some reason MMFM for last year 2024 then xaku is non-binary so xaku doesnt count as F or M

minor musk
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hey guys

atomic radish
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Finnaly pulled a electric ephemera kuva lich

umbral burrow
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g

lime radish
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Honest question out of curiosity...who else has really really stupid plans to get every frame, weapon and companion, including all possible variants of modular ones?

wide bloom
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👋

boreal pier
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lots of people have done this

fathom cipher
lime radish
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Good to know I'm not alone with it, I thought it was pure insanity when I did the maths on the modulars

boreal pier
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unless you mean like every possible combination

wide bloom
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In that case less do that

lime radish
boreal pier
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ye thats a pain

wide bloom
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I have personally entertained the idea a few times but that takes a lot of storage

boreal pier
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prolly doable though its just grindy and boring

lime radish
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A little bit of a shame I wasn't around for Founders so I can't collect everything but is what it is

wide bloom
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Spread sheets, lists and uh... a checklist app may be needed

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It is what it is

lime radish
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Finding out that amp variants are referred to as say '146' doesn't hurt, might just have to bite the bullet and name the variations like that for all of them

wide bloom
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There is jkII and jIIk, i have gotten those mixed up personally when writing

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So numbers might be a good option or a deffernt assignment? (Those are for zaws i swear i have a notepad at hime with some combos and thats what i have written down)

lime radish
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I think that letters only work if there aren't two of the same type with the same first letter, and yeah the mishaps don't help either

wide bloom
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So sepreate call signs and a sheet of a translation for no forgetting or will that be... counter intuitive?

lime radish
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Might just be tricky? The amps have an easier time with it since their wiki page was written a lot better and can be used more easily as a reference

wide bloom
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Tru

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God this makes wanna see how this looks inna spread sheet but i have other things i promised to do :(. But i have an idea of perhaps including the price in the naming so a 10j2k/10jIIk and the 7jk2/7jkII

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Might work unless they are all within the same thousand range

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But you also dont see the price after you buy

lime radish
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Might just need to specify Zaw/Amp/Moa/Hound/Kitgun and then the number sequence akin to the Amp one

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So like Z145, A177, M346, etc

wide bloom
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True

lime radish
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Luckily most seem to only have 3-piece configs

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Ohh, forgot the K-Drives, Predasites, and Vulpaphyla

wide bloom
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...

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This is gonna take a long while

lime radish
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Yep

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It's bad enough I'm considering trying to amend the wiki tables