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lofty garden
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‘cause you basically have to be kissing an enemy to use her 3 if you went for minimal range

graceful tusk
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ohh really now that i think about it, they are not that close up so i'll try getting closer thanks 😄

pearl parcel
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hey captain, i did something stupid

leaden obsidian
orchid oak
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Can you level frames by doing railjack missions?

pearl parcel
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i think no, unless it has an in board mission

pearl parcel
leaden obsidian
leaden obsidian
pearl parcel
leaden obsidian
pearl parcel
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the theft of the clicker, or of the dagger, or the reasonless murder of another is reason to invoke the Rite of Salmon, and bring forth a fish mob

maiden granite
leaden obsidian
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Wait french don’t slap people with long bread?

maiden granite
leaden obsidian
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I’d imagine long bread

junior folio
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Just finished The War Within, and I see how sick it is. But wow, that's a boring slog getting to it.
It just makes me frustrated that there isn't even more cool story stuff like it earlier

strong field
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isnt there a heat mod that increases damage when enemies are on fire?

lofty garden
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reconifex blueprint before the new serration…

fathom cipher
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ok took a break to eat came back and found hornet and one attempted her

leaden obsidian
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One attempted who

foggy orchid
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I can't decide between Hilla and Orchid droid.

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Whoop. wrong server.

strong field
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I don't think so

strong field
fathom cipher
strong field
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I looked through ember's augments the other day, didnt see any that says more damage on burning enemies

strong field
leaden obsidian
lofty garden
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trophies as melee skins

tribal canopy
lofty garden
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it is a trophy

tribal canopy
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But the question is, do you hold it or do we put it on like a glove and punch people like you did as a child

lofty garden
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for wearable, that shoulder guard we have bajillions of from Granum Void, for gauntlet melee weapons

serene vector
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hi, do you need multiple incarnon genesis for turning same weapons into incarnon? ex: lex and lex prime

leaden obsidian
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You can take the incarnon off lex and put it on lex prime, you just lose the materials

serene vector
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Oh thanks much

torn notch
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Can anyone help me figure out what node I'm missing?

lofty garden
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Presumably you've gone out on the plains of eidolon from Cetus?

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Oh, did you do the jade thing?

leaden obsidian
leaden obsidian
lofty garden
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Koumei, Jade, they're all the same thing.

leaden obsidian
torn notch
leaden obsidian
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Go hit up konzu, should be an option to go to a shrine

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Or to go chat with saya then hit up a shrine

leaden obsidian
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Oh?

lofty garden
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That you can waste pathos clamps instead of just getting another Incarnon adapter?

hexed imp
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Did they nerf duration on Xaku 4th?

lofty garden
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Don't believe so.

hexed imp
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I went from 60 sec last time I used him to now I have 30 sec

leaden obsidian
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What rank is your xaku

hexed imp
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30

leaden obsidian
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Odd

hexed imp
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Makes me not want to play him anymore

leaden obsidian
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Have you changed your build at all?

lofty garden
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With 155% duration, my vast untime is 38.75 seconds

hexed imp
lofty garden
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At 254% duration, vast untime lasts 63.5 seconds

leaden obsidian
median topaz
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Wait did you have a Helminth infusion

hexed imp
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Nope

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I just messed around with the build anyways

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And just not gonna play him rn ig

leaden obsidian
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Really odd, xaku shouldn’t have been at all changed

hexed imp
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I really don’t know

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I’m so confused

leaden obsidian
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Show your build

hexed imp
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Took a pretty big break from the game and didn’t touch Xaku again until now

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I remade his build already lol

leaden obsidian
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Ah

lofty garden
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They haven't changed Vast Untime since September, 2020, where they removed the energy drain.

leaden obsidian
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Which is why I find it odd that the duration had been cut in half for frizzle, my guess is a mod was removed or an arcane or somethin

hexed imp
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I’m sure I’ll figure it out or make a better build with duration

ember parcel
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I'm very happy with my Tiberon build :)

still loom
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How do you use voruna

honest axle
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Does the sacrifice sentinel mod proc during the special version of the h-09 boss fight for the glyph? I’ve tried for 4 hours and I keep dying to the boss either at the very start or the very end. I’ve seen some people running a vasca kavat with some sort of vampire mod

torn garnet
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Sending a message as per initiation rules, ignore me

rustic lily
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Health conversion aquired, leveled, and placed on Mac. Now Aoi can survive her missions!

austere plover
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hello

ripe wind
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I got a tenet arca plasmor with 57% cold is that good?

lavish pebble
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Percentage is very good, element is not.

median topaz
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cold is fine these days

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you can turn it into Blast

orchid tendon
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What am I missing? Mars was like this too where there was a hidden node. I've done all of these so what gives?

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Not a hidden node, my bad. And it was earth not mars. On earth I had to talk to konzu and do some mission. But on ceres I'm clueless

noble mica
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Hi

restive warren
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Ceres?

median topaz
restive warren
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Idk if Dagath's node count

median topaz
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try it anyway

restive warren
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That's not an impossibility

orchid tendon
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I'm having a really hard time then seeing what I'm missing... this is weird

restive warren
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Buy a key from any of the 6 syndicate pair

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I forgot the actual name of the thingy

median topaz
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Abyssal Beacon iirc

restive warren
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🥓 🤤

orchid tendon
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I'm just gonna redo all the missions 🤷‍♂️

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No wait I think that did it

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I got abyssal zone

golden slate
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Is marked for death ash build still good?

median topaz
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yeah, only issue is that the status rebalance gave enemies a ton more health so Slash is less OP

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Of course it's still Ash, just stack more slash procs

restive warren
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Idk why it's counting tho

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I don't remember that it should count in the first place. But when everything has already been done, sorta hard to compare when content is added

pure gulch
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abyssal zone seems to count for whatever reason, its only the 2 special assassinations on Eris that you don’t have to do for star chart completion

restive warren
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My old cue, was to check if I could still do arbi a while back, because it would force me to go do those nodes but SP was still unlocked - I think it's fixed now

pure gulch
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I was gonna say it shouldn’t count either but then I remembered that even I had done it once ages ago with a friend of mine after some thinking lol

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and wiki seems to agree too

orchid tendon
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That still wasn't it?!?! Jesus chriiiist

restive warren
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I'm like glare stupid and blind, so it's hard to see, I'll compare with mine

pure gulch
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is this just for normal chart completion or something else

orchid tendon
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Just normal starchart completion so I can do steel path

pure gulch
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I forget if the lich icon just overrides the completion symbol or not

restive warren
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What does it says when you try to talk to Tesh?

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I forgot

pure gulch
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arbi alert is what I used to check for nodes I don’t remember how early it shows up tho

restive warren
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If it was even mentioned when I woke up and saw the issue

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I think Tesh makes something pop on your screen but it could be arbi yea

pure gulch
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probably him too but I just used the arbi alert cus easy to find lol

orchid tendon
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It just takes me to his standing screen

restive warren
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Well the option for the

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Arbi is still one

pure gulch
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you can talk to a dude in hexis room if you’re in a relay

restive warren
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Since you're probably already there ye

pure gulch
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for arbi, cus that also shows what nodes you miss for SP chart

orchid tendon
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Hexis?

restive warren
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Yep.

orchid tendon
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Idk who that is

pure gulch
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arbiters of hexis the syndicate room

restive warren
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.... Arbiter of Hexis is one of the 6 syndicates

lyric lotus
pure gulch
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there’s a guy who sells arbitration honors which only unlocks when you get steel path unlocked as well

restive warren
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You know like Red Veil, Hexis, New Loka, Potato sequence

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(Nope, I'm not editing that typo, you can deal with it, I'd say it's an improvement)

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They get free taters on friday now

pure gulch
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steal meridian

restive warren
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Perfect

lyric lotus
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argo glast gonna commit murder of his clan

restive warren
orchid tendon
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Hexis didn't tell me anything either.

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They want honors, medallions, and the standing.

restive warren
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Wrong npc

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He's standing right there

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Ominously

orchid tendon
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I was told to go to the room?

pure gulch
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the guy on hte left there should have arbitration honors

orchid tendon
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He tells me I'm not ready for arbitration

restive warren
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T-posing

pure gulch
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does he say which nodes you're missing or not

median topaz
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he doesn't

orchid tendon
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No. He said I'm not ready for arbitration.

median topaz
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have you wrapped 1999 yet

pure gulch
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well then just continue the chart and later on he will when you're getting closer

orchid tendon
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1999 shouldn't be starchart, should it?

pure gulch
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it does count now

median topaz
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still counts for arbitration and SP

orchid tendon
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And I'm basically done. Ceres is my only problem.

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The other planets have laurels.

median topaz
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you're going to have to punt the lich off planet then, it's hiding an incomplete node somewhere

restive warren
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💆🏻‍♀️ Captain, unless they removed the thing that pops up on your screen and tell you which nodes are missing. It's either Teshin, Arbi alert itself or the arbi dude, I don't remember which one

median topaz
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I literally never saw it

restive warren
pure gulch
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Arbi alert I have seen myself

median topaz
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also you may have to do all three Duviri missions these days

restive warren
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I'll brb I didn't do the 1999 so if it locks me out of arbi I guess it's gonna show or something

pure gulch
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and someone sent a pic with the arbi guy tellign them to do 1999 missions I remember that

restive warren
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But it used to be a thing.

pure gulch
orchid tendon
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1999 isn't requires for starchart

median topaz
orchid tendon
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Required*

restive warren
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Fudge

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Lemme think

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What if it's not Ceres dude

orchid tendon
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Nor duviri. Nor railjack

pure gulch
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you do need to do the 1999 nodes for SP unlock now unless you had it before

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that much I do remember seeing from someone else

restive warren
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Oh that might be a possibility

pure gulch
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but even then the guy should say it lol

restive warren
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Well that's frustrating now there's no tell anymore

orchid tendon
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Jesus christ why they gotta lock everything behind "do more crap"

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I did the crap.

restive warren
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To avoid baboos going in SP

median topaz
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like I said, there's an incomplete node on Ceres. The lich is just hiding it

lofty garden
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SP unlocks are grandfathered in. Any new nodes are required. Make sure you have things like Saya’s Vision and Brutus and Tyna Pass unlocked.

pure gulch
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this at least for me back before I got SP chart told me when I clicked it which nodes I was missing

restive warren
median topaz
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literally has to be

restive warren
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If it's not

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I'm just gonna pretend a ghost is taking their star system over

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It's fine

median topaz
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then it's a support ticket lol

restive warren
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I guess that's logical go to over the ghost story

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👻 BombaPoint

lofty garden
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Might as well put in the support ticket, then go clear the lich out while you wait.

median topaz
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upside is that clearing the lich nodes count towards clearing the map nodes

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actually back before I learned how2Warframe I'd use infested invasions the same way

restive warren
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Honestly I'd gate Lich/Sister behind finishing all nodes on the planets they "inhabit"

median topaz
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theoretically liches being locked behind Call of the Tempestarii is supposed to do that

orchid tendon
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Soo what I'm reading is I have to farm a kuva larva until it happens to take over ceres?

median topaz
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er? No, it's already on Ceres

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Those red clouds mean your lich is there

restive warren
orchid tendon
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Is it the nightmare mission orrr?

median topaz
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.....no

pure gulch
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it says [Lich Name] Controlled Territory or something like that

median topaz
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The bright red clouds on every node except Exta mean that the lich is on the planet

restive warren
# orchid tendon

You see how your map has red 'smokey' splotches? Thon, Pallas, Bode, Lex, Gabii, Seimeni and Ludi been took over.

orchid tendon
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Okay so then when do I get to know where to go? I'm being told once the lich is on the planet there should be a node. There isn't a node.

median topaz
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.........it can spawn on ANY of the red cloud nodes

orchid tendon
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Not by you - the internet. I'm trying to read about what to do w this lich

median topaz
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The red cloud nodes are where it is

pure gulch
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play the controlled territory nodes and it might spawn

orchid tendon
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All of those are rubb fiscott variants.

median topaz
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your lich is Rubb Fiscott

restive warren
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Gabii, Seimeni and Exta don't really "shows" as complete so idk it's most likely any of those 3 from what I can see out of the picture

median topaz
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also lolololololol what a name hahahaha

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Exta's required to progress so it can't be that

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Anyway

orchid tendon
restive warren
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Well that leaves 2

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Well

median topaz
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the variants

restive warren
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Why do you think it's Ceres the problem anyways

obsidian sigil
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Arent nightmare missions unlocked by having every mission on a planet completed

restive warren
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Again

orchid tendon
obsidian sigil
restive warren
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I don't understand that english expression

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Can I eat it in spaghetti tho

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Probably I think so, I think it's the right spice

obsidian sigil
pure gulch
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this thing I imagine

restive warren
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ah

sonic prism
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is there any solution to the fact that the shield of shadows clones are kind of obnoxious and makes you and your teammates shoot at ally targets

obsidian sigil
median topaz
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huh it's not Ceres then

restive warren
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Lotus symbol to me and I'm half blind so

pure gulch
restive warren
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But understood

pure gulch
obsidian sigil
median topaz
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To unlock Nightmare Mode on a given planet, one must complete all mission nodes on that planet.

sonic prism
median topaz
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so some other mission isn't done

sonic prism
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heres hoping for some rework from DE

obsidian sigil
restive warren
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That's why I kept saying "It's probably not Ceres"

pure gulch
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might be the 1999 missions

median topaz
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probably

sonic prism
median topaz
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I know they're required

pure gulch
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ye

sonic prism
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The Hex is required for SP now?

median topaz
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yeah

sonic prism
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oofers

obsidian sigil
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Probably because those don't show on the star chart and those also don't have a completion symbol like other locations

restive warren
pure gulch
median topaz
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if you already have it unlocked it'll stay unlocked

obsidian sigil
sonic prism
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yee, i just got friends im introducing to the game

restive warren
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I don't know if it was intended

lofty garden
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all new nodes are required if you did not have sp unlocked

restive warren
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Probably considering

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Yeah what people already said

median topaz
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it was intentional yeah

pure gulch
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oh yeah also saya's visions which i hope he's done too

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cus thats also not there before you do the quest lol

median topaz
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Koumei was the sticking point for Earth yeah

orchid tendon
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Yeah I did saya

restive warren
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Take a pic of all planets time ExcaliburFire

obsidian sigil
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Yeah

pure gulch
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that case I imagine its the 1999 missions if you've done everything including the post new war hidden nodes

median topaz
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double check the Kuva Fortress

obsidian sigil
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If not that then it's literally 1999

restive warren
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Also if your pc please use PrtSc button

orchid tendon
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I checked and 1999 isn't part of it.

pure gulch
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where did you check

obsidian sigil
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Did they make angels a main quest yet

restive warren
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What

median topaz
obsidian sigil
median topaz
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ye

pure gulch
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because I do remember seeing a pic here where the hexis guy said to complete 1999 nodes

obsidian sigil
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Okay then

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I might have been conflating it with the quest progression guide on the website

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Which excludes angels

median topaz
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required for 1999 I believe

obsidian sigil
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Duviri is

shut cairn
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Do headshots count as weak point?

restive warren
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Didn't they said Duviri was all done?

obsidian sigil
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(Duviri was a side quest before 1999 for some reason)

median topaz
restive warren
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But idk if that meant they also done Lone Story as well

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Did they not now, to duviri you go

median topaz
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Oh you mean for unlocking SP

restive warren
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... I don't know anymore what we talking about

median topaz
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yeah no idea

restive warren
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Yeah

pure gulch
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duviri shouldn't count I think?

restive warren
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Well fudge I'm out of ideas.

median topaz
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I think Duviri does count because it has a SP trophy

orchid tendon
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Nah I was wrong about 1999

restive warren
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...

orchid tendon
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Answers on everything are so mixed

restive warren
median topaz
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where you need to run SP Circuit/Lone Story/Experience to get the thrax head display

orchid tendon
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I hate warframe now honestly. So much work for a "difficulty boost"

obsidian sigil
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Occam's razor ig

restive warren
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...

median topaz
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better than gacha games. That's real hell.

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either way, do 1999

orchid tendon
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Easier entry that's for sure.

pure gulch
restive warren
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If all you needed was a hurdle...

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To hate something

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Did you like it in the first place?

orchid tendon
restive warren
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Such is life. and I know it's not the thing you want to hear. but it's the thing you need to hear unfortunately

orchid tendon
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It really isn't. Now you're just coming off as condescending.

restive warren
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No

orchid tendon
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Yes

restive warren
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I had multiples hurdles doesn't makes me hate the whole thing

orchid tendon
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That's fine. That's you.

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I don't have to be like you.

restive warren
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I don't want you to be like me. Not what I'm trying to say but lots of people were trying to help you and hearing that is just -

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Discouraging?

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Idk the word

orchid tendon
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None of the answers have been straightforward anyways. It's been a guessing game.

restive warren
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You're allowed to be frustrated. Not what I'm saying which I think is what I'm coming accross somehow

orchid tendon
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I'm just doing what we guessed was best

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But it's clear warframe has content hurdle problems.

median topaz
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I mean, it's just a big game

restive warren
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Yeah didn't used to be that big, but it's...

orchid tendon
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And the good stuff is locked behind a huge slog of an experience until the dream quests

restive warren
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Well

median topaz
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yeah but if you went straight into it you wouldn't appreciate it

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there's a really good write up that talks about how the slog makes Second Dream the experience that it is

orchid tendon
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I appreciated many games that didn't make me waste my life for a difficulty boost.

median topaz
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by this time tomorrow you won't even be thinking about this

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unless of course you're somehow bugged in which case my condolences

restive warren
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They don't want people that are modless and gearless to go into that content and then bloat their forum about content being unbeatable from the perspective of... Rolling the credits

orchid tendon
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I hope not. I'd LIKE to enjoy warframe. But they make it preeeety hard sometime.s

median topaz
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That's the normal Warframe experience

calm rampart
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never played the index cause i was scared of losing credits but is it generally easy?

median topaz
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I loathe index

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It's not too bad if you're in a group but I also don't enjoy it

restive warren
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I have yet to play a single game that didn't frustrate the living heks out of me at least once so I'm biased I guess

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But then games used to be much more... Erh guideless back then so idk

orchid tendon
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It shouldn't be normal to strongly feel a game is an entire slog. Games should be fun and enjoyable, not just work.

median topaz
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honestly, kind of miss it

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World of Warcraft killed MMOs

orchid tendon
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Like the new player barrier. It's a thing for a reason.

restive warren
median topaz
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fooking theme parks

orchid tendon
restive warren
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I used to keep playing that one game because I invested so much time, but it turned me into a complaining machine.

calm rampart
restive warren
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I learned later on I couldn't enjoy it anymore because of the... well I guess unlocking curve?

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Like unlocking everything to get to the content I enjoyed fully ruined the game for me. Everytime they'd add more stuff to unlock I was like "Oh cool here we go again". Because of the way they did content.

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Doesn't mean the content was bad, but

median topaz
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I usually prefer the learning process over the result

orchid tendon
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I don't think this helps against my case that there's clearly a problem with this game.

median topaz
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Like, playing Warframe these days is something to do while on chat with my friends

restive warren
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I'm not saying that but you seem to voice how miserable it makes you

orchid tendon
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I'm allowed to complain, yes.

restive warren
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So either take a break or just push through?

median topaz
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because I can tear through anything short of EDA with W+M1

orchid tendon
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Or neither because I don't like it?

restive warren
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That's also an option

median topaz
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I mean yeah, the only thing really essential behind star chart completion is the galvanized mods

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And even those can be traded for instead

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everything else has an equivalent alternative elsewhere in the game

restive warren
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To be fair tho Captain, we did "grow" and progress with the game mostly

orchid tendon
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And duviri stuff. Upgrading a weapon through duviri was my end goal. And it's been such a war just to do that.

restive warren
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The game is... There's a lot to it now

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Idk if I'd use term "bloated"

orchid tendon
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Need steel path for it.

median topaz
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I... guess? Incarnon adapters are great but Laetum is linearly better than all of them

orchid tendon
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It's for my build.

median topaz
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including Torid

orchid tendon
restive warren
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Depends for whom

median topaz
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the bloat was real even before TNW

orchid tendon
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True true

median topaz
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it was just different stuff that's mostly been cut down

orchid tendon
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But the bloat is very apparent. Especially for the newbies.

restive warren
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I mean I don't think people should have an OP weapon straight up the bat.

median topaz
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Like, they still need to fix open world progression

restive warren
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BUT

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There's a lot to do before you can access incarnon if you were interested in any of them

median topaz
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imo, they could make building Voidrig for TNW a quest thing, put the pieces behind junctions

orchid tendon
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That's the problem. I've already been playing for a long time. But I'm still barred behind hours of "work"

median topaz
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I mean 1999 missions are fast and that seems to be the actual hangup

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assuming you've done the quest you're looking at less than an hour

orchid tendon
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I havent.

median topaz
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OH well yes lol found the problem

restive warren
orchid tendon
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Yeah the problem is I gotta spend hours on it

obsidian sigil
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Quest is good though

orchid tendon
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Like I've been saying

median topaz
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they're going to have to change the definition from "star chart" to "every normal mission"

restive warren
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Hm

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See newbie in SP Earth mission

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Can't wait for the forum to be flooded with the "Content unbeatable, nerf plz"

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They'll need to add some sort of limit

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Maybe OG planets

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Keep Duviri/1999 out

median topaz
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ehhh

orchid tendon
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They should've just left it at starchart completion for steel.

median topaz
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DE's already running into the problem where people aren't doing regular 1999 missions and are whining about not getting the SP trophy

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same thing happened with Duviri

restive warren
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ScottStare My man

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Ah yeah because people forgot to do Lone on SP

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That was a bit funni, but considering of context I understand a bit why

obsidian sigil
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Yeah tbf

obsidian sigil
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Lone story is lone story

median topaz
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technically 1999 is just star chart on a different map

restive warren
obsidian sigil
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Theres not really much incentive to run it instead of regular duviri

median topaz
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Lone Story is the fastest clamp farm

calm rampart
worldly dome
median topaz
#

literally what spoiler

obsidian sigil
calm rampart
#

im kidding bc every low lvl player is acting like that💔💔

restive warren
# obsidian sigil Lone story is lone story

I think it's because people analyzed it as being the same exact thing as Duviri but without the side objective, you just focus on main thing. Which was also how it was explained. So I can sorta understand some of the confusion?

median topaz
#

now, Duviri I get having problems

obsidian sigil
median topaz
#

Really it should be separate since RJ is separate

obsidian sigil
#

Which makes the lone story redundant

worldly dome
worldly dome
#

Sounds good tbh

obsidian sigil
#

Run it once for regular and once after you unlock steel path

median topaz
#

Lone Story is "side activities besides smashing pots are blocked"

restive warren
obsidian sigil
worldly dome
#

... trophy?

restive warren
#

It was both hilarious and terrible because I lost my 7 sheet on him.

median topaz
#

so no fishing, Komi, Guitar Hero whatsoever, Kullervo only if he shows up as part of the story

restive warren
#

It was a long day and I hadn't slept in 3 days so to say I yelled and turned into an actual b-word is needless to say

#

Not very proud for getting that angry but jeebus material that has nothing to do with deep lore aren't a spoiler.

#

Hear me out, mentioning a Warframe that just came out didn't count as spoiler for him

median topaz
#

yeah that I get

restive warren
#

Makes 0 sense, I love it when people make negative sense

median topaz
#

though I had an eyebrow up when Angels was Warframe's cover image

restive warren
#

Self-spoiler itself

#

TayLaugh I found it a bit funni but yeah

obsidian sigil
#

Yeah they're more than willing to put operator or drifter on promotional material now

#

Which, operator has been in the game for almost 10 years

latent olive
#

is secondary outburst worth it on mesa or should i buy other primes

obsidian sigil
#

Thats pretty fair game

median topaz
#

other primes

#

Outburst is finnicky and it working with the Regulators is technically a bug

restive warren
#

Don'tchu need Ceramic dagger or something

#

Ontop of outburst

obsidian sigil
#

Yeah pretty much

median topaz
#

so eventually it's going to be fixed and people are going to scream

restive warren
obsidian sigil
restive warren
#

True

#

Might as well shove that one corrupted mod and many combo dura and turn it into stick

obsidian sigil
#

No corrupted mod needed

restive warren
#

(PS: a stick you can't poke with, more like emotional stick. To emotionally boostio your poor regulator)

wet yew
#

since its a secondary after all

median topaz
restive warren
#

Many of the arcanes don't work with Jade

obsidian sigil
#

Ceramic dagger has a passive with innate 2x combo on top of the 100 primary killings getting you up to 7x

median topaz
#

And it's equipped to a different weapon entirely

obsidian sigil
#

Galvanized reflex is another 5x so it gets to 12x, no?

restive warren
#

Oh

median topaz
#

so the action order is quick melee, primary, secondary, regulators

#

no way that's intended

restive warren
#

I mathed out you rite

median topaz
#

if they ever get around to adding arcanes to exalted weapons it'll be different

restive warren
#

I think.... Certain arcanes wouldn't be allowed.'

next kiln
restive warren
#

Assuming they'd let us equip the current one and not have some special one just for exalted

median topaz
#

don't see why not

restive warren
median topaz
#

Arcane Avenger is already disgusting with Hildryn's exalted pistol

next kiln
restive warren
median topaz
#

Have you seen Secondary Ennervate yet

restive warren
#

No :(

#

Not maxed "yet"

median topaz
#

I was using it to one-shot eximus with the Akbronco

#

at rank 3 or 4

obsidian sigil
#

No i went for melee doughty

median topaz
#

The Akbronco

obsidian sigil
#

For my ceramic dagger

median topaz
#

my condolences

#

I kid I kid I know it's really good

wet yew
#

if amalgam furax works

#

with regulators why wouldnt outburst

median topaz
#

because secondary ennervate is equipped to a different weapon

#

Longbow Sharpshoot on Nataruk doesn't apply to the Artemis Bow

restive warren
#

But it does on other bow I assume?

median topaz
#

Artemis Bow is the exalted

restive warren
#

No I mean stat stick wise

median topaz
#

No, stat sticking is a melee only thing

restive warren
#

Stat gun then

median topaz
#

which will also probably get nerfed into the ground eventually

restive warren
#

In this case bow

#

Potentially honestly

median topaz
#

no, pseudo exalts stat-stick because they can't be modded

restive warren
#

I'm having a weird feeling everything that has pseudo exalted might get changed at some point

median topaz
#

the obvious step is to make them modable

obsidian sigil
#

Its what makes pseudo exalted weapons even worthwhile

restive warren
#

Okay lemme reword my question

#

Does the arcane never work on Artemis bow from indirect means

median topaz
#

correct, never ever

obsidian sigil
#

Modding pseudo-exalts would honestly be a nerf to them

restive warren
#

There you go

#

Sorry salty.

#

Very very salty.

#

Do arcanes ever counted for Artemis tho

median topaz
#

No, not at all

restive warren
#

I don't think I've ever seen my Merciless proc with her when I had Bramma equipped

#

Ok thought so

median topaz
#

exalted weapons are a separate slot from the normal weapons

wet yew
#

outburst is a general secondary crit chance buff

restive warren
#

They are.

median topaz
#

so arcanes for the slot shouldn't apply

restive warren
#

Shouldn't but yet

#

Sometime they do

median topaz
#

No Deadhead for Cyte, no Doughty for Desert Wind

restive warren
#

Bug

restive warren
wet yew
#

all secondary exalteds can benefit off of outburst

median topaz
#

It's almost certainly a bug

restive warren
#

I think a bunch could benefit from Flare for a time. idk if it's still a thing now

#

And the shield one I forgot the name of

wet yew
#

thats just heat inherit things

restive warren
#

True

#

Cascadia Overcharge would synergize minimally on Jade

#

I haven't tried since 1999 tho

wet yew
#

afaik outburst working on exalteds has been there longer than pixia influence

restive warren
#

I mean Idk "when" they'll fix the arcanes working on thing it probably shouldn't but I feel like they won't for a while because-

#

Well arcane do a lot of heavy lifting in certain case.

#

So unless they wanna look at the whole thing over

#

I mean they could pull the rug out of underneath our toes but I doubt it

#

I'm not sure how high it is on the priority list for fixing.

#

We don't even know how the coding affect that whole thing up, so it might touching a lot of things can could possibly break more things, like a domino effect

pure gulch
#

mfw got shocking step ephemera and deck 12 scene from one exploiter

restive warren
#

Sorta curious to see how they'd go about that. Like would the exalted come with the adapter or you'd need to put it in? Or would the Exalted frame would come with more arcane slot on itself etc

restive warren
median topaz
#

I imagine it'd depend on if they wanted to gate the ability behind something

#

but probably it'd use a standard adapter

wet yew
#

i should really farm for kullervo

pure gulch
#

kinda would have wanted the cold one just because i didn’t have it but oh well

restive warren
wet yew
#

no clue

restive warren
wet yew
#

im not on wf'

pure gulch
#

joy for another 1h 38min

#

not kullervo hours yet

restive warren
#

It's too happy for prison time apparently

#

So you're not missing out

pure gulch
#

magistar in the foundry has switched rotation

honest axle
#

Are there any other primary weapons besides the incarnon latron that can effectively armor strip?

#

I swear this tank will be the end of me bro

restive warren
#

Not by normal means

#

Unless you want me to say +14 stacks of corrosive? Double green archon shard?

pure gulch
#

anyway finally enough toroids to craft hildryn

restive warren
#

It is

wet yew
#

apex is status locked

restive warren
#

But they fully stripped now ScottStare

honest axle
#

5 hours of tries

#

Never got past first phase.

restive warren
#

Tank hates us too I'm pretty sure

honest axle
#

Currently using strun, laetum, and vastilok with a shield gate nyx

restive warren
#

I wonder if that one mod

#

Shattering impact? Can strip it

honest axle
#

Just got a sancti magistar I want to build out. But I need to sacrifice the armor strip from my vastilok for hammer damage

honest axle
obsidian sigil
#

Isnt regular magistar better for incarnon

restive warren
honest axle
#

Not sure

restive warren
#

It is. But I prefer Sancti

honest axle
#

Never got to actually damage the boss

median topaz
honest axle
#

Stripped him and then all the eximuses spawned and made the entire floor a corrosive lake

restive warren
#

Ew

#

Yep I remember that part

honest axle
#

Dante specter died because he got pinned. Couldn’t spawn another one. Shade died so I couldn’t get sacrifice to proc

restive warren
#

I forgot how squishy Valk turns when she gets all the stack of corro

#

Sobbers me up everytime

wet yew
honest axle
#

I ran around like a madman popping dispensary as much as possible just to get run over and die. Shade came back and died instantly because tank aggro ig

wet yew
#

15% difference iirc on slam

honest axle
#

I don’t mind the crawl of the fight at all. I just don’t want to get 1 tapped because the floor wants to hurt and eximus units take no damage whatsoever

restive warren
#

Healing won't save you from getting 1 tapped.

honest axle
#

I know

#

But it’s the illusion of it

restive warren
#

I'm saying that from a healer perspective, numbers of time I get blamed because I'm supposed to thanos snap people from getting OS ExcaliburFear

honest axle
#

I just want my Eleanor glyph man

restive warren
#

Honestly you might need to wait for Latron :/

honest axle
#

That’s another what 2 months?

#

For it to cycle back?

restive warren
#

I don't think you can brute for Shattering impact

restive warren
honest axle
#

Latron incarnon was last week

#

This week it’s lex and magistar

#

Which I just grinned for

restive warren
#

yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

#

Pain

worldly dome
#

so i finally got enough endo to max primed flow

#

this is broken as hell

restive warren
#

I do hope they sorta change how selecting Incarnon adapters works if they add anymore incarnons ngl

honest axle
#

2 months for an incarnon I will use once is crazy

#

Might not worry about armor strip tbh

pure gulch
#

normal circuit is on a 3 month rotation :D

#

miss a frame you want? back in 3 months lol

honest axle
#

Oof

worldly dome
#

Personally haven't interacted with Incarnons very much, I just have the Boltor one so far
Rebought Torid ready for when that one comes around again

#

Happy with my other non-incarnon weapons

#

Only thing I could probably benefit from at this stage is a better melee

#

Hate Incarnon maybe

pure gulch
#

torid's next week

worldly dome
#

sweet

honest axle
#

Again I’m just looking for a decent stripping primary that isn’t the latron lol

#

Laetum does fine damage

#

But if the only solution is corrosive stacks on a Braton then

#

Eeeuuugh

restive warren
pure gulch
restive warren
#

ScottStare People used to complain about the ol' ash grind, the poor assassin got relocated

worldly dome
#

Yeah if Incarnons were something you could earn either via SP Circuit OR via some kind of weekly Zariman activity, that would be better

#

Like a Zariman Archon Hunt type deal

restive warren
# honest axle Oberon

I find it hilarious more for Ash, because the amount of complain for his farm and he got tossed in worse

honest axle
#

So is my only option really just corrosive stacks?

restive warren
#

But yeah Oberon sorta sadge farm too now

restive warren
worldly dome
#

idk what Volt skin to buy, I want a change of pace from the Prime default look

restive warren
#

I don't think you can commit cheese with green if it's capped

median topaz
#

correct

honest axle
worldly dome
restive warren
#

Hm

wet yew
#

its really hard since the optimal loadout is 3 incarnons

restive warren
#

What do you like then? Because Volt has what... 3 deluxes?

worldly dome
#

I much prefer the disconnect of Warframes not being people, but machines of war
Having Amir's goofy voice in my ear just ruins that

wet yew
#

and 2 are in rotation

worldly dome
#

I'm thinking I might buy the Technoshock skin

honest axle
#

I imagine it’s doable without armor strip

#

Just even more of a slog than it is now

wet yew
#

i mean yeah

restive warren
wet yew
#

its just gonna take 5 business days

median topaz
worldly dome
#

I mean I'm getting paid today anyway so Tennogen skin it is

wet yew
#

speeding up the first phase is like important cus thats where you die quite alot

wet yew
#

i might just get sumdali

#

ill just use gauss and slap on arcane nullifier

restive warren
wet yew
#

thats immortality right there

median topaz
restive warren
#

Tbf I know it sounds stupid but if I'm not running neg efficiency normally all I need is Nullifier

median topaz
#

famous last words

worldly dome
#

ooo I like the subtle Prime details on Technoshock skin

wet yew
#

unfortunately i have r4 nullifier

restive warren
#

Well I know who's gonna be my next victim I'll assault with my extra nulli arcanes now

devout burrow
restive warren
#

I mean friend victim

wet yew
#

its only on 2nd phase

worldly dome
#

You know what would be an amazing QOL change for the Warframe appearance screen?
"Toggle Weapon Visibility" so I don't have to go into all my weapons and turn them off individually

wet yew
#

and you can shoot them anyway before they come up

restive warren
worldly dome
wet yew
#

i need like 6 arcane nullifiers

restive warren
#

Fingergunning took to whole new level

wet yew
#

thats like an r2 nullifier iirc

restive warren
#

Lemme check if I've got some laying around

worldly dome
#

Can't decide on a colour scheme for Volt

#

Might do a Tony Stark and go Hot-Rod Red

worldly dome
#

I like this as a base

restive warren
#

Sleek

#

I'm gonna go shake Loid for arcanes, some still need to be maxed anyways

restive warren
worldly dome
#

chat did i cook

#

👨🏼‍🍳

restive warren
#

I like the blue emissives with red/black

worldly dome
#

I usually use an energy that matches the frame but it's always felt right to go with blue electricity

restive warren
#

Not sure if I like the accent but it does matches everything else so it's probably just biased preference on that part

worldly dome
#

oh right, not pictured is vengeful charge ephemera

#

for the arcing electric effect

restive warren
#

They need to be vivid enough so they don't... Turn green? But it's easier with Volt

worldly dome
#

now to make the weapons match

restive warren
#

LotusGasp Show weapon glam

worldly dome
#

ugh why does the boltor shade so poorly

#

Ocucor looking good tho

#

insane how fast life hits you huh

wise kettle
#

words can't describe my hatred for circuit defense, is there anything i can even do when the levels get high enough? i feel like it'd take at least like 3 people so the enemies don't just oneshot the pod

worldly dome
#

Frost maybe?

#

I dont play him so idk how his globes scale

restive warren
wise kettle
#

i should have honestly, now i'm just pissed off i stayed and lost

restive warren
#

I feel that :/

wise kettle
lyric lotus
#

Play Circuit Def solo.

wet yew
restive warren
wise kettle
wet yew
#

at 1k+

restive warren
#

It's funni because Gara is better later on but if you have no good melee for her stat stick you're better off with Frost but past a certain point his bubble get borderline OS

lyric lotus
#

1K+ is for baby tennos. Do level cap def

restive warren
#

Or your Gara doesn't know how to place the dmg reduc stuff on the defense target

#

Or when you ask they say they subsumed over it and you silently disown them

worldly dome
#

and wont be any time soon

lyric lotus
#

gara = impale the defence itself to get moar def ExcaliburFire

lyric lotus
restive warren
#

Flawless logic, but at long as it works idc DagathLUL

#

Apparently glass shards can heal (Don't try this at home)

#

Lemon already have his hands full

pure gulch
lyric lotus
restive warren
#

EGGY SHIP!!!

pure gulch
#

supposedly rare or something

restive warren
#

Eggy are you okay eggy BlobRegor

wet yew
#

anyone have 6 arcane nullfiers i can buy HappyHyekka

lyric lotus
#

those who farmed out simitar... you have my respect.

worldly dome
#

Lots of progress but still comparably very new

restive warren
restive warren
lyric lotus
#

play at your own pace SAB, game gets better when you do your own stuff instead of following someone elses

restive warren
#

Over my dead body - But I'll be playing Rev to cheat

pure gulch
#

scimitar is one of the more reasonable ones to farm really tho xd

restive warren
#

Mesmer skin thickens

worldly dome
#

Working on revamping my loadouts rn as I don't use most of them

restive warren
#

Khrisu shove me in your dojo LotusIntensified

lyric lotus
wet yew
#

looked it up, i see why

restive warren
lyric lotus
#

lel

restive warren
#

There's many thing I'd do to save plat, but there's mistakes I'm realizing I've made along that path

worldly dome
# lyric lotus thats pretty much 99% of wf player right there lol

As I've gotten better with Wisp, and therefore more invested in her buildcrafting, I realise she's one of my best SP frames rn
So I don't really need my Rhino tank build anymore
Might rework it as a more general use comfort build as opposed to being so focused on maximum iron skin

pure gulch
#

bruh I didn't even realise now with them 2 engines bps I have a full parallax set but I already just bought the thing anyways DagathLUL

lyric lotus
#

ambassador bp...myth that never been truer.

restive warren
#

I feel that

#

I really need to go back at RJ survival I could get a set

pure gulch
#

you can buy a whole ambassador set for cheaper than the bp alone

lyric lotus
#

which is not limited to just frames.

worldly dome
#

Always been a support main

restive warren
worldly dome
#

worlds best Warlock main in Destiny 2 right here

lyric lotus
#

ahh fellow D2 player

worldly dome
#

🫡

restive warren
#

I chose pain instead

wet yew
restive warren
#

Meaning TFD

lyric lotus
#

i was a warlock main as well... and don't want to be a solar one.

restive warren
#

But then again I'll always go with the PvPless option

pure gulch
lyric lotus
#

at all...in my 10K hours of gameplay

wet yew
#

i have it mastered

pure gulch
#

they are the only currently online sellers

wet yew
#

i can give mine away IvaraWait

restive warren
#

I forgot what people sold but the whole set was cheaper than just BP too and I was like

worldly dome
restive warren
#

"But more objects" - "Also the bp is still in there"

pure gulch
#

rn someone selling set for 30

restive warren
#

BlobRegor Sometime logic hates my brain and to make logic in the first place

#

When sense is not being made

lyric lotus
#

i stopped right before TFS. LF dissapoint me so much with what it offered.

wet yew
#

i should probably get rid of my lich

lyric lotus
#

befirend it

restive warren
wet yew
#

i guess, i dont need the ephem anyway

restive warren
lyric lotus
#

if tfd have pvp --everyone gonna die not cause bullets or skills. but cause the thirst traps

restive warren
#

Khrisu put me in van plz

#

2 less arcanes to worry about

restive warren
#

What are we squinting for again

lyric lotus
#

haily.

restive warren
#

🍰

lyric lotus
#

or valb.

restive warren
#

Valby is my main

lyric lotus
#

or bunny.

restive warren
#

I did the Sharen ult grind new mat and I wanted to dig my grave instead

#

Felt like pulling teeth the whole time

lyric lotus
#

the grind...

restive warren
#

When your Char bps are easier to get vs the mats

lyric lotus
#

told ya, their grind loop is kinda whak

restive warren
#

I quote "Can you bless hit me with your truck so I don't have to do that grind anymore?" "Or you could just stop" "No, it's still gonna be haunting me in my dreams"

#

189*

#

Of that mat, but you get 7 a run.

#

And that's the short dungeon.

#

And it's like 20min if you're lucky for the run

#

Yeah no thank you I hate it

lyric lotus
#

and i am having snooze fest in poe2 endgame...

pure gulch
#

I caved lol

restive warren
#

It's a really fun gun tbf

pure gulch
#

30 for the set just had to snipe it

restive warren
#

But fun is subjective so idk

lyric lotus
#

i probably have more than 40 pieces of each ambassador part, execpt for the bp lol

restive warren
#

I don't think the ambassador were in the narmer bounties mobs back when I farmed 'em or I'd have probably more

#

Or maybe I wasn't running my loot pet

lyric lotus
#

two weapon grind i'd never thought would be so dissapointing in wf, ambassarod, and that zariman sytch...

restive warren
#

I remember I was in a stage of using my Helminth charger at the time

pure gulch
#

hespar blade the grand enemy

restive warren
lyric lotus
#

yes hespar!, that wapon is just volts non existing 🍑

restive warren
#

LOL

#

Awfully specific

#

Sir explain yourself

lyric lotus
#

No RebFrown

#

said what i said.

pure gulch
#

if only the blade was like in an actually playable mode :(

restive warren
#

I mean

#

With a very specific team settup super easy, barely an incovenience.

#

But that's not very fun

lyric lotus
#

problem is not with team setup...problem is with how little it drops.

pure gulch
#

10% from C my beloved

restive warren
#

"Would you like some spare change with your efforts?"

lyric lotus
#

feels more like -10% from CCCCC.

wet yew
#

which mode does it drop from?

lyric lotus
#

took me a while to get it, and when i crafted it and INVEST in it with forma and potato...i felt like never been scammed so hard even with trades.

restive warren
#

I thought it was aabcaabc

#

Because if it was like disruption, I'd do more of that gamemode

pure gulch
lyric lotus
#

run around kill the weird angel

pure gulch
#

single worst zariman mission imo

lyric lotus
#

one thing you get a lot from that game mode... LANTHORNS ExcaliburFire

#

i still spent em from that farm

lucid owl
#

But they made it so very bad

restive warren
#

I think the thing I hate the most is the trap just... Having a set amount of time it's up

#

I would rather them be constant and I need to upgrade them in dmg for long term run stuff

pure gulch
#

it just feels like a worse mirror defense

restive warren
#

I know why they did it the way they did tho.

#

They didn't want an "afk the gamemode"

#

But turret defense or whatever it's called in english, it's... sorta a part of the fun :/

#

You just upgrade when you need to

#

Not waste resources upgrading wrong turret

lyric lotus
#

upgrade all turret...no discrimination ExcaliburFire

wet yew
#

uhh how far is the small computers from the 2nd barrier

#

ok even gauss is not safe

restive warren
#

False sense of security

wet yew
#

the goop drains his battery

restive warren
wet yew
#

quite rapidly as well

#

gauss abuse is real

#

dont really need the glyphs anyway

restive warren
#

Small turret for your ship

wet yew
restive warren
#

ScottStare I wonder what it looks lke on the eggy

wet yew
#

should really get parallax for the funny small ship tank

#

i could actually craft parallax

#

just needs a few quills and argon crystal

#

ima check what the bounty on zariman is

restive warren
#

Highly offensive eggy ship LotusIntensified

runic loom
#

How tf am I supposed to complete this

wet yew
#

ok yeah no maybe next time

dry thunder
# runic loom

First things that come to mind are limbo or riven cipher

restive warren
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Joking aside, first time I see that one

runic loom
lucid owl
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Khora works fine for it

runic loom
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I only have frost

dry thunder
lucid owl
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Just watch for eximi

runic loom
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No khora

lucid owl
karmic onyx
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guys, just try hildryn for the first time, how did energy-related mod/ effect (duplex bond etc) work on hildryn?

lucid owl
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I did it with qorvex once

runic loom
runic loom
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Yea I got nth

restive warren
karmic onyx
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ty!

lucid owl
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Just one khora player would make it ez

runic loom
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Yea I don't think I have another option

restive warren
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My day has just gotten 25% betters thanks to this

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I'm at 75% better now

lyric lotus
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ScottStare ✝️ 🤌

deep cosmos
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Made a spelling mistake fixed it now

wet yew
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i forgot i had this

restive warren
fair flame
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ohh thats neet looking

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now if only the airstrike air support did more than 200 damage.

restive warren
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Why does it still look like a spud

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Why I see potato everywhere in warframe

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Potatoframe 😭

restive warren
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Trust

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Space french fries soon tm

restive warren
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Chili pepper DarvoDeals

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I can't unsee

valid quail
restive warren
deep cosmos
restive warren
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Oh dear lord I didn't think this through

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🦌 Lord

fair flame
restive warren
pure gulch
fair flame
pure gulch
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now get ready for mutalist salad v

restive warren
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ew infested salad

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🤢

fair flame
restive warren
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Oh it's not too bad then DarvoDeals

fair flame
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get it becase thats stuff anti vegen

restive warren
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ScottStare Food

worldly dome
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first vulpa pup :3

lyric lotus
restive warren
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... Hmm I wonder if you can re-age 'em

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Nvm they look like the devolution form

restive warren
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Yes it looks like the devolution

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The shrimp thing when they momentarily die

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Floating shrimp if you will

restive warren
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🤏🏻 Smoll 🦐

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It looks so unamused

pure gulch
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just a silly little guy

restive warren
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Legless 😩

restive warren
# worldly dome

Was half-hoping they look like smaller version not... Shrimp

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I mean shrimp is cute too

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In a weird bottom of the sea trashcan-way*

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Better

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ScottStare Yeah nevermind It's not coming accross correctly, I'm just digging that hole deeper

worldly dome
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getting duplicate drops when grinding Brutus 😐

lofty garden
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Pity

pure gulch
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such is grind

strong field
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C'est la grinde

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bonjour

untold stone
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Bonjour

restive warren
restive warren
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:3 <-

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That cat has the cutest :3

pure gulch
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definition of :3

gilded elm
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That Cat is the definition of 'Best Cat'

lusty bough
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does activating magistar incarno on khora help her whipclaw or not ?

restive warren
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I heard incarnon adapter does, no idea if activating it does tho sorry

weak junco
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restive warren