gameplay-discussion

[restive warren]

Hek, you could maybe shine some light if you do Chaos first than pillar after so you can just boink with Orange rad archon shards

...

[strong field]

OHH true

[restive warren]

Now I'm tempted.

But my butterfly :(

(I used spellbound for rad proc reasons)

[strong field]

So.. with Nyx orange wouldn't really do much right? It affects ability damage
Unless any affected enemies take more damage from YOU after you confuse them all

[weak rover]

hello everyone, just joined the server.

[strong field]

I see no reason to use Topaz on her

[strong field]

Hello ^^

[round otter]

i think banshee's 1 should target sonar weakspots on enemies, if present.

[restive warren]

Not on her 3 but if you paired, maybe

[round otter]

(... That was it. A very small buff for consistent synergy for an otherwise mostly useless ability.)

[strong field]

I agree
If breach surge is allowed
Sonar should be allowed to do so aswell

Sonar is anything but useless

[restive warren]

That was the quickest tower throw I've ever seen in my life

[strong field]

In fact banshee herself is great (except her useless 4)

[round otter]

oh no

[restive warren]

Use it for priming Rad shard duh

[round otter]

sonar is great.

i meant sonic boom, her 1.

[strong field]

I use shooting gallery banshee and condemn banshee the most
CC and SVB

[restive warren]

Why are we talking about sonar, I thought we were talking about Chaos

[strong field]

Ah, I use her aug for the armor strip

[restive warren]

💆🏻‍♀️

It's Nyx's 3 right?

[strong field]

Dev brought up banshee

[round otter]

but yeah if he 1 went from 'pushes you over' to 'actually hits weakspots' then i'd be happy.

[strong field]

Chaos is Nyx' 3 yes

[restive warren]

Ah

Yeah I never understood Banshee's 1

It's there I guess?

[round otter]

it can sometimes proc sonar weakspots

[restive warren]

sometime

[round otter]

if they happen to generate on central mass.

[restive warren]

😩

[strong field]

I mean would be nice if hitting sonar weakpoints in general counted for worthy comradery

[round otter]

but it's very unreliable. it'd be an easy synergy to introduce, so why not

yeah. that would be a plus

[restive warren]

Idk I use Gloom or now I'll use Cyte's subsume onto it

[round otter]

i asked a cyte in squad if hitting sonar weakpoints extended Evade like headshots

[strong field]

It's alright if you use the armor strip augment

[restive warren]

Can't be bothered to try to squeeze some use out of it

[round otter]

he said he didnt think so, sadly

[restive warren]

I'm already using all my slots, as much as I'd love to use it.

[strong field]

Banshee could use a light rework, not much needs to change but it would do her good

[strong field]

I have two perfect setups that I could suggest when I log back on later

[restive warren]

Or at least soft touch up

[round otter]

yeah, she's got two really good abilities and two 'literally nothing' abilities

[restive warren]

I'm very picky how I build my things, hence why I never ask for other peoples build

[strong field]

Soundquake USED to be good
Until it was nerfed 5 years ago

[restive warren]

Her 4 got nerfed so many times it's not even funni

Well

[strong field]

Ita good for afk hydron tho LMAO

[restive warren]

A bit, but now it's just sad

[round otter]

just have two of them get a bit more synergy with a light touch and id be happy

[strong field]

Sit by obj, use quake and sit there forever whilst pet kills stuff lmfao

[restive warren]

Old Banshee and old Ember

Don't get me wrong, I like current ember

But I also miss old ember

[strong field]

Old ember with old world on fire was so amazing

[restive warren]

I know it makes probably 0 sense.

I liked both

[strong field]

Now I use 5 casting shards and spam 4 with breach surge and her 2

And it just... Clears the map

[worldly linden]

Wish party if your lifetime was still playing when just chilling in the relay

[restive warren]

They didn't want us to blow up the planet :(

They put cushion everywhere

[strong field]

I can't wait for the new year (in-game)

I'm.. so so close

[restive warren]

Wait there's gonna be something happening?

Oh

[strong field]

Yeah next in-game calender year with the kiss

[worldly linden]

Remember to tell the hex see you next year

[restive warren]

I haven't choosen anyone 😭

[strong field]

Choose faster >:3

Jk, there's so much time

[restive warren]

Ele and Quincy were on par, until yesterday

Now I just wanna strangle the sheez outta Quincy

I wanna dunk him so hard with Valkyr equipped ngl

I really really really don't like having favor held over my head

[round otter]

i wasnt planning on dating anyone

but some of the things theyve said over chat. jeeze.

[restive warren]

Would you like a tall glass of water

[round otter]

kinda winning me over

[strong field]

Cant do Arthur, not my type but a total bro
Would do Amir but I have one account
Aoi is a sibling basically and Amir likes her
Quincy isn't my type, still a bro
Lettie is cute sure, so it was hard
But in the end.. Eleanor is my pick

[round otter]

amir leaves me Concerned

[strong field]

Shoulda seen prime time earlier with what Eleanor said to Megan 💀

[worldly linden]

Too fast?

[round otter]

not physically, just what he talks about

[strong field]

I like it, he reminds me of someone I used to know years ago

[restive warren]

Arthur had a broom stuck up his 🍑 for too long. Don't get me wrong I like the dude. ||But he sorta bored me half to dead with the hero syndrome||

[round otter]

like ||hey i know this was a horrific torture menthod, but actually i think i would like it used on me? really the torture part is optional let's just do it the fun way||

bro are you okay

[strong field]

Nah amir has a point

[round otter]

he does have a point

[restive warren]

He's not ok

[round otter]

but it speaks to something concerning that he'd locate the point

[worldly linden]

I mean he’s the volt of Hollvania so maybe that electricity might’ve fried his sanity a little bit

[strong field]

I mean before orokin got all screwy, it was originally a way to preserve great members of society and their wisdom

But they involved the whole torture thing in their downfall

[restive warren]

I haven't looked into the deep lore

I know some of the surface

[round otter]

drifter is written as having a more narrow view of the lore

[strong field]

I have even pre 1999

I love deep lore

[round otter]

the chat options he has are pretty biased in seeing the worst of the orokin empire, which-

fair enough, that IS the parts they've been dealing with

[restive warren]

Idk they can kinda floor you with some of the explanation sometime

Depending what you pick, there's gonna be a build up

[strong field]

What concerns me is that drifter says
||Duviri is basically gone, dust and echoes, now that they're in 1999||

[restive warren]

You can borderline choose to be limited in your view to a degree

[round otter]

that is concerning.

[worldly linden]

You think we’ll see a Y2K crossover event with Warframe 1999? If ykyk

[strong field]

||Like, so obviously we can access from a gameplay perspective but it's just... Gone??||

[restive warren]

... ||Made me think 1999 wasn't read, but considering certain things, I'm not too sure||

[restive warren]

I feel like that's a choice you choose sorta idk how to explain. But that's an interesting way to look at it

[strong field]

||Wild... Rip Teshin 2.0||

[round otter]

i mean, ||it's hard to say if anyone but the drifter was a real person there. the population are all literal dolls and dominus thrax is a twisted reflection of himself, with the mood-npcs being... well, moods.||

oh yeah, ||teshin...||

[restive warren]

||I mean Teshin 2.0 died too so I guess we're back to square 1||

Lol it's funni we speak in boxes, I do hope no one new gets curious tho

[round otter]

they know if they see spoiler tags they'd see spoilers

[strong field]

No he ||was revived at the end of duviri quest|| but seeing as ||he was a part of duviri and duviri is gone, then that would mean he is too||

[round otter]

as for 1999 lore

little tidbit of gameplay that was never brought up in story

its interesting that the techrot have shields as a health type, like the corpus

[restive warren]

I meant more in a way, but both applies depending how you look at it

[round otter]

implying that they can produce functional shields out of 90s commercial tech garbage

[restive warren]

What

[round otter]

||the protoframes have shields too, naturally, despite their frames being transformed out of their flesh...||

[restive warren]

That explain the shieldgating era, it's all in the looooooore

[strong field]

Wait... ||It makes sad sense that duviri is gone.. remember wally managed to infiltrate zariman during the hex quest||

[restive warren]

I'm sorry I had to

[round otter]

shieldgating is canon for enemies too

it just doesnt usually matter because

[strong field]

||Wouldn't have been able to if we were still keeping him out in the undercroft.. duviri really IS gone||

[restive warren]

||From my understanding Wally was "tearing it down" but idk how much||

[round otter]

A: headshot kills bypass shieldgate

and B: shieldgate applies to the first pellet. if you have any multishot at all it goes through it

and you do have multishot

[restive warren]

I do like multishots

[round otter]

||Teshin|| DID warn us

[strong field]

Actually insane they thought that out for lore

That... Actually makes me sad ngl

[round otter]

||The void flood in the circuit. The void angels were trying to get in, and if they managed it, "Their master" would be freed.||

[restive warren]

||I don't think it's fully gone, but I guess it's hard to tell considering they need to leave the content there||

[strong field]

That's what I mean, drifter broke the loop ages ago, hence why they left duviri
The loops we play is just us replaying the loop and leaving duviri for the first time again afterwards
(Old lore)

Hence why from a gameplay perspective we have the loops

[restive warren]

||Isn't it our loop tho? Shouldn't matter to us too? Hence why I said, I don't think it's fully gone.||

[strong field]

||Loud state's that our loop now encompasses only 1999||

[restive warren]

I don't think they- It? Have the final word on it.

[restive warren]

Oh that one

We do talk in past tense a lot too.

We would still use present tense if - Yeah ok

[strong field]

||Drifter actually says that duviri is just dust and echoes now in a chat you can get||

[restive warren]

||Haven't gotten that one "yet"||

[strong field]

Ah mb

[restive warren]

But I got a lot of stuff that talked in past tense.

[restive warren]

It's fine, I just didn't know there was... That much finality?

Idk how to word it

[strong field]

Yeah so basically
The loop we play for circuit is the same loop again and again, but it's not current or present time or whenever, it was the loop we first broke free from to enter the new war if that makes sense

[restive warren]

Saw it more as cutting a tree out of its forest (aka you still have the plains after) vs melting the plane into nothingness

Man I don't have a good exemple this time

[strong field]

Time in the game is super screwy lmao

[restive warren]

It is.

[strong field]

But that's why they use eternalism

[round otter]

time travel moment

any fiction involving the concept invariably has screwy timelines

[strong field]

Yeah most people assume that when you travel back to the past that's still the past

[round otter]

and warframe has had time travel well before now

[strong field]

But no

The past becomes your present and your future becomes your past

Though there are differing theories

[restive warren]

||I mean, or it's there in one of the many realities, yeah let's abuse the hek out of that see if Wally tears it down too|| 💀

My head hurts

Brain into trashcan you go

[strong field]

||all other realities involving us are gone||

[restive warren]

🧠 🚮

[restive warren]

Well F

[strong field]

||wiped out by wally during the handshake||

||Remember the other operators dying?||

[restive warren]

Man I was hoping I was guessing wrong with the light thing.

I'm gonna have to whoop a birch

[strong field]

I love this games lore i swear

[restive warren]

Hand throwing incoming

[strong field]

||that's why I'm happy drifter has been happy finding an actual home in 1999, a reality they now encompass and is set in stone thanks to the rewriting of events, a family, and even a lover||

[restive warren]

||Throwing hands with something borderline out of Lovecraft will probably end in me loosing my darn mind||

[strong field]

Super super wholesome

Drifter deserved the W

[restive warren]

Or I out crazy it.

I will out crazy it. Hold my beer.

Don't sip

[deep spade]

is greedy pull worth running

[strong field]

||Ele actually comments about this topic when she encountered the indifference herself in Rusalkas mind, and it's insane||

[strong field]

Only on surv setups really

[restive warren]

Honestly I run that on my Nekros when I don't feel like running after my teammates.

[strong field]

Good for pulling all manners of loot and stuff towards you when you're throwing down bubbles every few seconds

Especially in high density spawns

[restive warren]

How much you're hurting on energy/health orb? How much you feel like moving your left/right bumcheeks from wherever you're standing to go grab that loot?

It's a QoL that's up to you honestly

[round otter]

by the way

here's a reason you should try using the scaldra turret trucks in 1999 missions

[restive warren]

... The ship deco?

[round otter]

they're actually super deadly and will kill enemies in 1-2 hits with ease, dealing millions of damage per shot at a high rate of fire

[restive warren]

Oh those

[round otter]

in comparison to grineer ramparts, they have limited ammo and are more easily destroyed

[restive warren]

I don't know why my brain went there my b

[strong field]

Basically Kitty, Spoiler ahead but ||Ele talks about wanting to fight the indifference, but when she encountered it, it's not JUST a f feeling.. it literally is the feeling personified.. it ignored her, she saw herself from it's pov, a speck, nothing more than a piece of dust, not a threat, didn't even care that she was there, and it just looked away, didn't bother, and it actually caused her to mentally break because it caused such feelings of insignificance she wanted to die and not exist, THATS true indifference||

[round otter]

now here's a reason you shouldn't try the scaldra turret trucks in 1999 missions

they're bugged. if the truck gets destroyed while you're using it- And it WILL by, even if just by your companion blowing it up when enemies get near- Your warframe will bug out, locked in place and unable to move or turn the camera.

at that point only operator mode and riding the bike will have you mobile

[restive warren]

I already got that chat with her, well... At least part of it? I know some conversation change depending of how much they care about you. I had one chat it was the same starter and I picked same OG option and devolved differently

[strong field]

I haven't experienced that
BUT I have experienced the bug where if it blows up and you're on the turret, your skin is constantly covered in fire and the fire spec map
Doesn't do anything to you, you're just permanently on fire

[round otter]

i dont think friendly fire should be able to destroy a rampart a player is actively using but

i guess its niche enough nobody has bothered to get it fixed yet lol

[restive warren]

You can bug out too by utilizing erh... The terminal in Assassinate? But you can "momentarily" unjam yourself by pressing ESC. Can't you do that for that bug?

[round otter]

oh, i forgot to go grab my foundry items.

[restive warren]

PS: You will get rejammed at random interval

[round otter]

havent tried the escape thing

ugh

[worldly linden]

You know what I just noticed on the dex arms for the drifter? You know he one with the flowers on the shoulder? the hand parts got claws!

[strong field]

||That's why the indifference is terrifying, it's literally indifference itself, and any being in it's domain immidiately wants to die and not exist.||That's true eldritch horror

[round otter]

and my foundry bugged again. you guys get this issue too?

[restive warren]

If it happens again and you remember, can you try it out and lemme know if it's similar issue and "fix" (Not really a real fix, because it comes back again and you need to rinse n'repeat)

[round otter]

if you have the SHEER TEMERITY to try to operate the foundry menu too quickly, it bugs out, you cant collect anything, and you cant back out of the menu

the only solution is to quit and restart the game

[strong field]

Oh yeah and does the minus percent lmao

[restive warren]

I'm EXTREMELY stubborn and try to fix or do work around a lot of the bugs.

[round otter]

really how dare you try to use basic ui, SMH

[restive warren]

I'm gonna brute force my way out of this bullsmackery

[strong field]

Causes you to have to wait till it crafts AFTER getting from -100% to 100%

Instead of 0 to 100

It's a really weird bug

[restive warren]

I mean the Indifference makes me think of ||nyarlathotep||

For a multitude of reason, but one stick out more than the other.

[round otter]

whenever i type 'voruna' into the search bar

i keep mistyping it as vortuna

[restive warren]

Please don't

Oh

You meant wiki right?

[strong field]

I thought this was bout to go somewhere else because it's voruna lmao

[restive warren]

You're safe, go ahead

[round otter]

in this case the foundry since im making a new one

[strong field]

LMAO WE HAD THE SAME THOUGHTS KITTY

[restive warren]

LOL

[round otter]

only i, captain vor, know the TRUE POWER of the fishing minigame.

[restive warren]

Also safe

[strong field]

"Only I, Captain Vor, know the true power of R34"

[restive warren]

Next thing we know you just drop that monologue on our forehead

[strong field]

I mean look at his name

[round otter]

imagine

[strong field]

Captain Vor lmfao

[round otter]

you enter VOR into the arsenel

and grendel shows up in the results

[restive warren]

[strong field]

Oh no 💀

Grendel can actually eat crewships

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/not-like-this-stare-no-nope-gif-16373672

[round otter]

the arsenel frame select actually has hidden keywords

so if you forget a frame's actual name

[strong field]

Before atomicycle was patched out of archwing and RJ
You could mount it, get off and eat crewships

[round otter]

you can type in their theme like 'wolf' or 'spears' or 'magnetic'

and it'll display the frame you were looking for

[restive warren]

What happen if you type potato

[strong field]

Same for weapon mods too it's a cool feature

[restive warren]

Nothing, thank you

[strong field]

Pain

If it actually brought up the catalysts it'd be funny

[round otter]

maybe if you searched in foundry instead of arsenel? lol

or inventory

[normal sonnet]

atomicycle

[strong field]

Back sorry, was grabbing nitro rq

[restive warren]

Time for me to go back farming Reconifex bp

And fail at it

[strong field]

Oh kitty is it cool if I add you as a friend?

[round otter]

i have no idea if reconifex is worth farming

[strong field]

Asking because your bio says you don't like random ones

[round otter]

and, like, using in DA when it may be forced upon me

[restive warren]

Sure, lemme know if it doesn't work

[restive warren]

I don't, thank you for asking

[round otter]

i'll be picking up vesper because it at least has niche use for ivara with innate silence

[strong field]

Ah it says you'll have to add me because you're not accepting rn

[restive warren]

Gotcha

[strong field]

Ooh there we fo

*go

[restive warren]

I thought I turned it off, but make more sense I didn't

[strong field]

I should really do that myself, I keep getting random requests from a model building server lmao

For all sorts of model kits n stuff

[opaque hinge]

how many xp does conmpanion give for MR?

[chrome fossil]

the same as a warframe (6K)

[opaque hinge]

oh

so Hound and those pet in Deimos too?

(after glid ofc)

[strong field]

Yup

[chrome fossil]

yeppy

[median topaz]

All companions are worth 6k
But Sentinels and Hounds come with weapons which are worth another 3k

Also there are extra sentinel weapons in Fortuna, with Legs

[twin depot]

how do i log into my ps warframe account?

[median topaz]

er.... use your playstation account

if you've combined them previously then everything in your PS account should have been added to your PC account

[drowsy rock]

which one here is good?

or better*

[chrome fossil]

I would say right

[drowsy rock]

the visnok?

[chrome fossil]

yes, that is right

[drowsy rock]

ok ok

[chrome fossil]

->

[drowsy rock]

how about this one

[chrome fossil]

left

[drowsy rock]

btw what stats should i fidn

[chrome fossil]

then you should not be rolling

Let me take a look at the weap stats and I tell you

[drowsy rock]

what?

[chrome fossil]

positive:

• Multishot
  +Status chance/damage
• Any other which gives QOL or damage, element could work.

Negative:

• Crit chance

[weak iron]

You definately want -cc, +multi. I imagine other stat can be anything that saves mod space. An element, punchthrough, etc. Do not mod for crit. You want -crit. Unless for some reason you don't want that incarnon buff

[chrome fossil]

this could be very good

if you get + Multi, anything else and less CC you have a solid riven

[weak iron]

Riven mods can't get status dmg can they?

[chrome fossil]

they can not sadly

you still can get + status chance

which is solid for galvanized mod

[weak iron]

Right yeah

I imagine ideal would be +multi +cold/elec/heat/punchthrough/sc -cc

[chrome fossil]

Ideal would be kinda like I said

• MS SC Damage - CC

damage can be element too

[weak iron]

Ahh +dmg obviously right mb.

What's it's base sc?

[chrome fossil]

20%

pretty good for a machine gun

wait no

is 40%

[weak iron]

Oh damn nah it's 40

[chrome fossil]

Evolution 4 gives another base 20%

[weak iron]

Yeah

[chrome fossil]

you really want more status

100% is really good for a machine gun

[weak iron]

And drops cc to 10%. Surely -cc is not that big a deal. Like if you got -zoom it'd be fine. Cozz 10% cc is low as heck already.

[chrome fossil]

agreed

• zoom, more recoil, less cc

that could work

[weak iron]

I'd inagine it's more important that the neg is harmless and the positives are actually good ye?

[chrome fossil]

yes

[weak iron]

-dmg to corpus. Cozz..... who even cares? XD

[chrome fossil]

My boltor has less damage to corpus, I just never use that to corpus and done

I use my glaxion tenet for corpus because magnetic goes brrr

[weak iron]

How is boltor incarnon?

[chrome fossil]

is like

a shotgun machine gun

pretty fun to use

[weak iron]

Have you used soma incarnon?

[chrome fossil]

YES

[weak iron]

Is it like that?

[chrome fossil]

no

[weak iron]

Oh lol

[chrome fossil]

Soma incarnon shots like lasers, Boltor incarnon shots more bullets

honestly, give it a try if you can

[weak iron]

Ahh okay

[chrome fossil]

Still, soma Incarnon is really strong.

we have that mod that increases crit rate per shot until you reload

[weak iron]

I intend to. Got a riven for it a few weeks ago. Don't have Boltor Prime yet tho. Riven dispo makes it exciting.

[weak iron]

I have it. Not a huge fan tbh. I can't explain why though tbh.

[chrome fossil]

give me 5 minutes btw

I gonna check all boltor variants

[toxic escarp]

How do I write a message as a spoiler?

[chrome fossil]

IIRC, people use telos boltor and not prime

[weak iron]

I needa roll this mf. -grineer is rough.

[chrome fossil]

put || after and before the message

||like this||

[toxic escarp]

Ah ok thank u

[weak iron]

Huh. Afaik telos is crit and prime is sc. They're entirely different weapons.

[weak iron]

||IDK||

[toxic escarp]

Is the ax52 going to be a || infested lich weapon ||

[chrome fossil]

use prime

[weak iron]

If it is I hope they lemme use my riven on the variant. Tho doubt it

[chrome fossil]

prime has slightly higher base damage

[weak iron]

Oh tbh I was gonna either way cozz it looks cooler. And it's cc can be fixed with incarnon I guess?

[chrome fossil]

and prime can be used as both crit and status which is more solid

[weak iron]

How is punchthrough on a machinegun/autoshotgun riven?

[chrome fossil]

good

overall enemies tend to stand close by each other

more in hallways or close spaces

[weak iron]

But -grineer is super bad : (

[chrome fossil]

use another weapon for grineer

[weak iron]

Hmmmph

Fine -.-

[chrome fossil]

BTW I once used a burston incarnon with less damage to grineer

and it killed them like nothing

[weak iron]

Yah but burston is burston

Actually yeah, tempted to farm up some plat and buy a Burston riven.

It's an smg in incarnon and incarnoff and that's awesome.

[sudden flame]

burst fire rifle in normal , 600 round lmg in incarnon

[chrome fossil]

only for that 600 round is IMO the best incarnon

sometimes charging an incarnon is a pain

[weak iron]

Incarnons suck for immersion.

Vesper77 incarnon gonna be like: shoot 12 enemies in the left foot to turn your weapon into a full auto rpg with a 5x scope.

Burston is one of the few that doesn't fully mess up the immersion imo (in part cozz I have my game set to fire full auto when holding trigger).

[chrome fossil]

lmao

[restive warren]

To me the void just shapeshift them into other things

[chrome fossil]

Do 12 headshots while doing a backflip in real life to turn your weapon into a panzemaker T34 and destroy the map to reach lvl 99 Mafia Boss

[restive warren]

🍺

[weak iron]

Hmmm fair. I'm still mad that it oofs my skin in incarnon mode.

[restive warren]

Sound about right

[restive warren]

As long as it's just a reskin it's fine, if it's something that change the model - no luck

[weak iron]

Yeah it's Hecaton (the Nyx skin) shotgun skin. Big ree

[restive warren]

Oof

[weak iron]

WANT INCARNON

[chrome fossil]

I want stug incarnon

[weak iron]

I should check wiki and farm the Duviri mats I need before next week tbh.

[chrome fossil]

OOF duviri

[weak iron]

I also want this but like, I want there to be -projectile speed +firerate options on all 3 perks

[chrome fossil]

[weak iron]

Yup. Wanna get the mats ready asap tho so as soon as I gent incarnon I can upgrade it.

Also make sure I don't have a strun so I don't accidentally put incarnon on strun instead of strun prime.

Cozz stupid when excited

[restive warren]

Getting pieces for the new guns is

... Atrocious? Yeah

[weak iron]

How you get them? I might do some trying in an hour or 2

[meager spindle]

does cascadia flare buff mesa's regulators ? it triggers when i use a heat corr build but im not sure if it actually affects regulators

[pure gulch]

legacyte harvest or hell-scrub

[restive warren]

The new survival for some, also capture, I'd need to double check but so far seems everything in survival

[pure gulch]

didn't have too high drop % tho

[restive warren]

I'll check for both, 5% feels like pulling teeth

[weak iron]

Well. Survival is cool atleast tho

[chrome fossil]

I think it does not, if you want an arcane for pistols, use arcane outburst

[weak iron]

And they're all in c rotation so that's a +. Can just run non-stop instead of trying and resetting all the time.

[restive warren]

Dear lord, no thanks I'll stick to survival

[pure gulch]

its kinda funny tho I have gotten 2 vesper receivers already and at least one of them was from an A rotation somewhere

[meager spindle]

thx for the info

[restive warren]

1%? Yeah I'm gonna bare-handedly pull out my teeth out

[chrome fossil]

Is easier to farm for Condition Overload than that lol

[restive warren]

YEP

[pure gulch]

not even too fussed yet about the weaps

[weak iron]

Oh gosh okay yeah

[pure gulch]

might farm them but not too worried, eventually once I get hex rank 5 maybe

[restive warren]

I really want Vesper

[pure gulch]

also cyte missing systems from just doing all hex bounties once or so for chemistry every day which is pretty funny

[weak iron]

Why btw? I see alotta people want it. To me it seems like a regular semi pistol. Am I missing something or is it just a personal preference thing?

[pure gulch]

new gun cool plus it seems like it could be pretty decent I feel with acuity especially

[weak iron]

Okay nvm wiki told me. Weakpoint hits increase cd, high sc, cc, and cd base stats, naturally silenced, hitscan

Looks perfect for new acuity mods.

[weak iron]

Ye dat

Hmph now I kinda want it too

[pure gulch]

I might just see if I get any parts from bounties and if not just buy with standing eventually both reconifex and vesper lol

[restive warren]

They had me at laser sight, weak point and crit multi is just whipped cream at this point

👩🏻‍🍳 👌🏻

[potent thunder]

💫

[pure gulch]

I remember in the 1999 demo exterminate I probably ended up using the vesper the most from the weapons cus it felt better than the skana or ax

[restive warren]

Felt like Nazeistra

TFD weap, but if it had laser sight

I wonder if the pieces are tradeable

[restive warren]

Did you managed to get its pieces?

[pure gulch]

so far I just have 2 receiver bps but I also haven't farmed for the parts at all

[restive warren]

I think you can buy the bps from... Amir?

[lyric lotus]

[restive warren]

[lyric lotus]

[restive warren]

Coffee?

Also is the Reconiflex bounty bugged or the rare is actually rare for once

[pure gulch]

ye I know but I want to get hex rank 5 before I buy anything with standing

and the bps for both vesper and reconifex at least according to wiki have 1% drop chance so probably just rare lol

[restive warren]

Don't worry, me too, which is why I'm currently farming it - in case I get pieces before I get to that point

So far reconiflex bp is telling me to mow the law

[lyric lotus]

Tea 🫖

campaign experiance be like

[restive warren]

I'm about to max Arcane Crepuscular

My bad Camisado is closer

[lofty garden]

I bought vesper with standing while waiting to hit “liked”. I will buy the other one on Sunday after reset with standing

[restive warren]

I have bad news

You gotta craft part first, then gun

It's one of those

[lofty garden]

Yeah, did that for vesper already

[pure gulch]

mfw do exterminate techrot bounty, team runs ahead killing everything, I come in behind collect 7/8 treasures, I did my part

[lofty garden]

I have one part of reconifex built already

Yeah, I switched to running my treasure hunting Xaku build. People can go run along, I will go down the alleys and get the medallions

[pure gulch]

also idk how widely known it is but you can roll into the treasure pickup and it skips the animation but does the pickup, pretty cool

[restive warren]

If I spam the bounty for the darn reconiflex I just do solo because I know I'll just rush/blender spin with Keratinos through

I feel gross not looking for the shuckle but Imma loose my darn mind over this bp

[lofty garden]

That’s why I am just buying them with standing. the full weapon bp and parts are less than a day’s standing for me

[restive warren]

I'm spamming them because I still have 2 days of turn-in/bounties before being max, might as well be productive.

Also I need to max the arcanes so.... Spam Exterminate it is

I am a blender.

[pure gulch]

I would get another cyte chassis from bounties again lol

[restive warren]

An angry blender

A blender of mass destruction

[boreal elbow]

what does it mean when the enemy health bar is grayed out?

[pure gulch]

@potent sage i can hop in the bounties with you if you want just got done doing all the bounties for chemistry

@restive warren that is sorry to that guy lol misping

[lofty garden]

Yeah, but once you max standing for the day, anything past that seems like a waste. I just do the six bounties for chemistry, then turn in four pizza boxes.

[restive warren]

It does 😭

I think we have time for 2 ish and then it cycle

[pure gulch]

shoulda gone with nyx for the double eleanor experience

[potent sage]

😭

[pure gulch]

sorry sir did not mean to bother you lol

[restive warren]

Big summoned them before

[potent sage]

this is like the second time i got pinged in this channel

[pure gulch]

similar nick moment

[fathom cipher]

pulled a bigboy. pinged the wrong person

[midnight vortex]

anyone able to show me how to strenthen my connection with the hex works?
im trying my best but i cant seem to get the hang of it

[toxic escarp]

What server talks the most cause Oceania kinda dead

[restive warren]

Use computer in the backroom to commit friendship

I'll go reconifudge myself I guess, this bp hates me

[midnight vortex]

yeah see i understand the using computer part but i dont know what answers to pick and how else to do stuf i guess what im trying to say is idk how this dlc works :p (and i would really appreciate if someone could show me i am not very bright)

[restive warren]

Worst you can get is no Chemistry, which you can balance out by doing bounty for the right comrade.

[midnight vortex]

i dont even know how to do bounties

[restive warren]

Have you tried pressing ESC -> Fast Travel -> Bounty? It's the billboard.

[lofty garden]

after four days of conversation, you will hit “liked”. each time you hit liked with a character, you will see a cutscene. after six cutscenes, an icon will appear above kalymos and you can then play the finale

[pure gulch]

or Q menu (my beloved)

[midnight vortex]

didnt even know fast travel was a thing :p

[restive warren]

Figured, but I wasn't sure

[restive warren]

Oh right we can do that now

[midnight vortex]

been a solo framer since 2018

[restive warren]

I completely forgot

[midnight vortex]

suprised i still play it tbh'

@restive warren would you be opposed to joining up and helping me out for a bit?

[restive warren]

In different circumstance I would've said yes. But I did enough Reconifex bounties that it comes out of eyes

... Not actually, wow that expression doesn't translate

[midnight vortex]

okay all good thank you anyway

oh also where do i see my finale progress?

[pure gulch]

as in how close you are to getting it or?

[midnight vortex]

yeah i think so

i did the warframe 1999 quest but when i press x on kalymos it shows me and all the hex

[pure gulch]

you need everyone on Liked, and if you don't want to check the KIM app, you can go to Kalymos in the backroom and you'll have this little freezeframe of everyone with either a link or no link

to have a link you need the liked chemistry, and when you get all 6 links (aka everyone's chemistry to liked), then you can do the finale

[midnight vortex]

ohh alright

also these bounties a hard how am i meant to do this

[pure gulch]

hard in what way lol

[midnight vortex]

i got hurt and sent back to the lobby

[restive warren]

I recommend matching weakness:

Scaldra:

Techrot:

[teal rampart]

so what does naramon, madurai and unairu focus do

[restive warren]

ngl I struggled when my Basmu wasn't matching element with Scaldra... Techrot? Not so much

[lofty garden]

Felarx to the knees

[restive warren]

You said knees, say less: Felarx to the knees it is

[pure gulch]

I just have universally good builds on everything that is SP viable that I don't even need to think about what setup I use but I can understand if someone isn't at this point yet that they'd have to think more about building stuff lol

[lofty garden]

50% chance for 2000% damage on non-crit hits can’t be wrong

[restive warren]

I don't use META weap or heavy dmg weapons.

[lofty garden]

can also just orthos prime them

[restive warren]

And now that I play TFD even less so, I'm already terrible aim if I'm not forced to weakpoint/headshot I'll take bad habits with guns and it's gonna hurt my bossing ability :/

Also after Bramma META sorta meh in just heavy dmg. I like earning my kills now. Minus when I decide to become blender

[lofty garden]

the non-sp bounties are easy

[restive warren]

I use odd build and don't use cookie cutter

Gas basmu? Old my beer

Blast / elec Akarius Prime? Hold my beer

Thought at this day it's rainbow Keratinos with as much range I can put on it because this Reconiflex bounty is just testing my patience

I am the primer

I don't wanna leave the Adarza behind 😭

[pure gulch]

I really wished this raw damage ankyros I tried with this silly riven was more worth it without priming but it just isn’t

[restive warren]

Diriga gonna play tamtam on your head while it's priming enemies for you, trust

Well unless you won't let him get the squid skin

Then he won't play casual bongo in your personal space

[teal rampart]

so what does naramon, madurai and unairu focus do

[restive warren]

Any close Diriga and you're up my nose.

[pure gulch]

ordis skin would be funky

[restive warren]

Madurai is amp boosting in a nutshell

[teal rampart]

like my operator’s weapons instead of the warframe’s

[restive warren]

Unairu doesn't seem to know what it wants to be but does many things. (Feel free to read the skills you'll understand why I say it doesn't know what it wants to be)

[restive warren]

Yes.

[teal rampart]

ah

[restive warren]

Naramon is for Warframe melee play (Not like you can melee in that form anyways)

[teal rampart]

neat

[restive warren]

Yep.

I would recommend hovering over each skill in the tree of each school and read what they do

I just summed it up in the most watered down I could muster to not make it overwhelming because I have 0 idea how new you are

[teal rampart]

yeah i just needed to know what those classes do

[restive warren]

I'm sorry I gotta ask, can you not hover and see what skill do on Xbox?

I'm curious

Hover or ... Select idk

Whichever terms apply

[granite slate]

I'm still confused in how to date one of the protoframes do I need to be Rank 4 with The Hex or something

[solid citrus]

Dating requires r4 for 3 of the characters, you also need to be trusted by them at a minimum

[restive warren]

Think so, like Ling Kaikai said

[solid citrus]

The other half of the list require r5 hex and need to be at the tier of close to be dated

[granite slate]

OK so Rank 5 with The Hex to date

[solid citrus]

For these 3 yes || Eleanor, Arthur, Lettie ||

The others can be dated at r4 + trusted

Since I'm r4 + trusted and || I'm currently dating Aoi ||

[granite slate]

Ahhh ok thank you that clears it up

[restive warren]

Wiki is a bit vague still on it

[granite slate]

I heard they who ever you date will also be in the backroom

[midnight vortex]

how have you already gotten rep 4 ande almost everything done? i cant even comprehend that

[solid citrus]

I'll be r5 hex tomorrow with the standing reset

I'm mr24 so my standing cap each day is 28k, meaning I can keep up decently well with the standing requirements for each rank

[midnight vortex]

well that makes sense im only mr12

[granite slate]

Hey King question later if your still around can I ask your help getting the last two cyte-09 pieces which is systems and neruoptic?

[restive warren]

Sharing my personal space? 😩

Dear gosh I can only think of one person

2. actually

The 3th one don't exist as a protoframe

Sharing my personal space

Nope

[strong field]

[tardy tartan]

Can we only chat with each Hex member over KIM once per day?

Been stuck on Friendly with most of them for 2 days now..

[strong field]

Send gifts and do bounties but yes Kim is once per daily reset

Wait what hex rank are you

[tardy tartan]

I chat first thing after logging on to the game and then do Bounties and gifts.. to chat them again tomorrow.

[tardy tartan]

3

No, wait. I'm Rank 2 and cannot get up to Rank 3.

[strong field]

You need rank 3 for liked which is the next relationship

[tardy tartan]

Huh.. it says I need Liked to Rank up to 3

Day before yesterday, I got up to Friendly so I thought yesterday I should up to Liked but nothing.

I just finished chatting with them on KIM today and still on Friendly..

[strong field]

You shouldn't need liked status to rank up to rank 3 as liked is locked behind rank 3

This is an interesting predicament

[tardy tartan]

Wait, I'll get a screenshot. I just need to max the Standings again.

[wind terrace]

is gauss still an annoying micro managing pain to play as he was on release

[coral yarrow]

Throw on arcane aegis, fast deflection, vigilante vigor and hes one of the most braindead frames

[covert lily]

Uh…you can play him by managing his effects or you can play him like a brainless baboon, up to you

[strong field]

Max range spam 3

[covert lily]

DE frankly pretty much always gives up the ghost on complicated designs and just makes the easy thing best

[tardy tartan]

Oh, I am rank 3

But how have I been stuck on Friendly for over 2 days now..

[lofty garden]

Takes four conversations, and you can only have one conversation a day

[tardy tartan]

Four.. could they not have allowed it to reset for each member's bounty we clear?

At least we could still earn the resources and do a self-reset instead.

This is some insane time-gate.

[lofty garden]

I mean, if you started conversations at launch, you'd have been Liked after the third reset.

use your extra standing to buy vesper

[tardy tartan]

Yea, been switching between Vesper parts and Cyte-09

[tardy tartan]

Thing is, you have no mentioned to chat up all the members either.

I was only chatting Eleanor.

[round otter]

i have no idea if reconifex is any good

[lofty garden]

yeah, that was annoying

3k MR

[tardy tartan]

There's no mention that you have to chat with all members until you try to rank up at Rank 3..

[lofty garden]

they did not explain how hex rank and hex chemistry were related

[tardy tartan]

They should change it to reset upon clearing respective Hex member's bounty. That way if you fumble, you can re-try without waiting on daily reset.

[lofty garden]

you cannot fumble

it is just four conversations

[tardy tartan]

I mean, I know we cannot rank-down.. I'm talking about to go further. For the romancing bit.

Unnecessary time-gate.

I don't understand the Chemistry bar that appears at the end of the bounty either. It's always full. I thought that might reset chatting them on KIM.

Also, is it 4 days REGARDLESS of whether we Gift them? Because it does seem like Gifting does nothing.

[lofty garden]

For "Liked" the requirement is to have had four conversations. The bounties and gifts don't matter.

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Kinemantik_Instant_Messaging#Chemistry

It says 90 Chemistry, four conversations, and 2-for-1 (R3) with Hex.

[tardy tartan]

I mean, now I'm fustrated just learning that Gifting does nothing until after Liked from what you just said?

Shouldn't that at least give some progress or allow us to chat them on KIM +2 times or something..?

Whole system is confusing.

[strong field]

Go for gold chats

[lofty garden]

You get 20 chemistry for the daily bounty.

[tardy tartan]

I am. I just learned that Rank 3 to 4 needs you to chat all Hex members which is mentioned nowhere and Gifting does nothing.

[strong field]

Gifting gives chemistry

[lofty garden]

But no idea how much you get for conversations, or gifts, nor is there a Chemistry meter to show you how much chemistry, numerically, you have with each character.

[strong field]

If you send the right gifts

[tardy tartan]

Yea, but where? How do I know? Is there a bar? A number? Something?

[solid citrus]

Read their profiles, pretty much tells you everything about what they want gifted

[solid citrus]

A big red love heart appears when you send the right gift

[lofty garden]

So assuming non-zero gains for each conversation, you can hit "Liked" in four days doing one bounty and one conversation.

The gifts that yield hearts are now listed in the wiki.

[solid citrus]

I'm currently trusted by everyone which is very neato

[strong field]

When you send a gift if it has a heart that means they likes it and you got chemistry if it doesn't have a heart on the 5 second countdown screen then better luck next time you send a gift I'm pretty sure there's a wishlist guide somewhere

[solid citrus]

I'll be r5 later tonight aswell so I can nudge them all a lil further

[lofty garden]

I hit Liked. If there's no MR reason to go beyond that, I'm done with the system.

[strong field]

Romance

[pearl parcel]

No reason I've found

[pearl parcel]

It's a shooter game, not a dating sim

[strong field]

It's alot of things

[lofty garden]

There's no game mechanics reason to go beyond "Liked" that I've seen. While I appreciate that some people want a bit of Persona in their Warframe, I'm not one of them.

[tardy tartan]

1999 is the dating sim update

[lofty garden]

All I wanted for Xmas was LR5, and without the Technocyte Coda, all I'm getting is coal in my stocking.

The update added the bare minimum of MR - one frame, two weapons. It's just 12k. If the protoframes had MR, it would've been fine, but they don't, they're just chatty cathys you cannot disable in-mission.

[tardy tartan]

Which weapon were you hyped about?

[lofty garden]

I'm not. They're just MR fodder.

Same with Cyte-09. Just 6k MR fodder to wring out in Hydron and stick on the shelf.

[fluid mist]

We need more ragdoll

[echo galleon]

Why do you say Cyte is just fodder?

[slender sparrow]

Aim hard on controller

But only because WF's Aim Assist is rather weird

[lofty garden]

Most non-Prime frames are just fodder.

[slender sparrow]

I play non Prime a lot
But it's a niche use case

[lofty garden]

They're just placeholders until their 250+ energy death orb versions come around.

[slender sparrow]

Because in some very old game mode, non Primes are often better than Prime counterpart

[runic loom]

Guys how can I acquire regal Aya?

[lofty garden]

Pay cash.

[slender sparrow]

Cash only

[echo galleon]

Buy it for real money

[lofty garden]

That is the only way to obtain Regal Aya, buy it with real money.

[runic loom]

Oh

😦

[lofty garden]

There's a few packs you can get. The more you buy, the more bonus you get.

[slender sparrow]

Normal Aya can be farmed in game, Regal can not

[runic loom]

Ty

[lofty garden]

It's how they keep the cosmetics cash-only, as it were.

[slender sparrow]

It's Platinum 2.0

[lofty garden]

Nah, not really. Prime Accessories and Prime Vault Accessories have always been cash. Now you can more easily a la carte, but if you do the math and buy the full set of accessories that were originally included in a Prime Vault Accessories, they are now a tad more expensive.

[tardy tartan]

Is it just me or the Techrot Gallifex hitbox is really glitchy?

[lofty garden]

I just shoot them all in the knees with felarx, or I let Xaku handle it, or I electrocute them and set them on fire with Hildryn.

Can also just orthos prime windmill through them.

[tardy tartan]

Hmm, thanks. Around the legs seem to always hit

Head/chest keeps missing somehow

[lofty garden]

Felarx has a 50% chance for 2000% damage on non-crit hits as one of its final evolution options. Wackiness ensues.

I don't know. Down there half the eximus units seem to be cold and block shots anyway.

It's getting out of hand

[tardy tartan]

Oh, yea.. You're right. The frequency of Frost Eximus is higher.

Linked to the seasons mechanic, maybe?

[lofty garden]

I don't know, it's just annoying. Between that and the jade eximus hiding around a corner beaming you, the eximus units are just super annoying these days.

[verbal coyote]

Prime sure footed kek

[pearl parcel]

No that's heresy

[tardy tartan]

Overrated, Handspring is more than enough

[covert lily]

I’m taking Equinox on a lot of techrot missions to deal with the chaff passively and just hunker down and shoot through all the eximus without distraction. Feel like that’s kind of the way the game works and maybe about as good as anything given balance direction.

I do retain my impression that we could use specific low range hard CC that goes through overguard, allow nuking and wide CC to handle the other units. For a healthy ecosystem.

[leaden spade]

Does Xata’s Whisper still double dip that bonus?

Haven’t played in a few months but that combo was brutal

[silent nebula]

anyone got some fun weapon recommendation for cascade/thraxx thats other than incarnon goes boom boom?

[tardy tartan]

Do you have Zylox's [Eximus Advantage]? That with Arcane Fortifier keeps you with Overguard all the way during Void Cascade.

Zylox's Incarnon makes it harder to use so you don't need it.

[silent nebula]

should have the adapter actually, and sounds pretty interesting. thx for the idea

[tardy tartan]

If you don't like the Zylox Duplex-firing mechanic, Arcane Fortifier alone works with any Secondary you have a strong Riven** for

[lapis lichen]

anyone knows about the update?

fixed something?

[pure gulch]

gonna have to be more specific than that

[tardy tartan]

Major fix!

Everyone defaults to romancing Captain Vor xd

Give him a smooch to obtain the Janus Key (+100K Mastery XP)

[dawn prism]

For anyone wanting 1999 mods, I have several duplicates of them. Free of charge.

[dull ferry]

The didn’t patch people being incredibly vague sadly

Maybe next update

[lapis lichen]

🤣🤣🤣

[leaden obsidian]

[covert lily]

having aoi as a sidekick with the exploding techrot thing can be very funny

[leaden obsidian]

True

[pearl parcel]

hey since my velocitus naturally does magnetic damage, i specced into that and now it does 25k before crits on a charged shot, is that good?

[leaden obsidian]

[pearl parcel]

for reference, this is my nataruk build that does like a million on a good headshot

well my railgun can instakill level 200s in steel path, so i did somethign right

[covert lily]

oh, the techrot safe is extremely good as seek and find rewards go

[pearl parcel]

ye

isnt it like 100k credits guaranteed

[lucid owl]

The seeking part is a million times worse than the zariman tho

With all the noise pollution and visual clutter

[pearl parcel]

hey is aya tradable

cause if not, how tf are people buying aya

[covert lily]

well you can't cheat it, but my medallion hunt instincts are well formed and I'm currently carrying a jat kittag so the visual clutter disappears rapidly.

[coral yarrow]

They buy the relics, jus easier to say buying aya

[covert lily]

Legacyte is a very good game mode. Solves all the boring issues of excavator and capture. Maybe even a little too generously balanced in our favor still, but more fun either way

[leaden obsidian]

Time to claim cyte from the foundry

[covert lily]

well

I can only say it's a good thing amir carries the weapon blueprints these drops are ephemeral

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah

[covert lily]

but yeah, 100k credits an arcane and a chunk of standing every 4-7 minute mission is really good if you hit the safes hard

[hoary bane]

so, Koumei, right? what if she had an ability that increased the drop chance of materials/rare items. thematically it makes sense, she weaves the threads of fate and lets people change the future. on top of that as an early star chart farming frame rather than a meh status primer she'd find more/better use throughout the game.

maybe on 3x6's bunraku would work like a mini pilfering strangle dome, still retaining the "gambler" gimmick, but making her actually useful

[vagrant prawn]

is matchmaking broken or is no onejust on rn?

[quasi marsh]

Can lavos sustain hard enough to beat apex?

And also what operator school is best

[pearl parcel]

hey sapi, is the Fusilai any good?

[slender sparrow]

Fusilai is a meme

[pearl parcel]

aww, they looked so cool too

why are they considered a meme?

[slender sparrow]

Slowest projectile speed together with Stug

40m/s

[pearl parcel]

thats it?

idc about projectile speed this is a nav build

[hoary bane]

Zenurik good for everything. the others are for min-maxing or outdated.

[covert lily]

hm, haven't used em much, let me take a quick look

[slender sparrow]

Try it out and see.
Maybe you find great fun in it.

[pearl parcel]

i want a throwing knife type weapon with loads of damage

and potentially loads of punch

[leaden obsidian]

I’m not good with a sniper

[pearl parcel]

im not either thats why i use railguns at poitn blank

[devout burrow]

except zenurik actively hurts you in shield gating builds, so not good for everything

[covert lily]

damage is not terrible for a throwing weapon, but not really in the realm of bows and such for single shots

[slender sparrow]

Hm, DE and community have neglected throwing secondaries for quite some time now.
They have not been in the power creep loop

[covert lily]

You're not using the piercing navigator aumgent for punch through?

[hoary bane]

wellspring, you think zenurik is used for anything else?

[pearl parcel]

i dont have it, yet

if youd be willing to make a trade i have an octavia augment or conc arrow

[slender sparrow]

Dunno how Despair Incarnon works

[covert lily]

I'm online don't mind gifting you an augment or two if you want

[slender sparrow]

Prolly just Aegrit in disguise

[pearl parcel]

oh, id really appreciate that man

[devout burrow]

its not, but it has features in the skill tree that hurt certain builds
also dunno why you clown reacted me

[covert lily]

despair is just concealed explosive + i think

[pearl parcel]

the only one i really need is that punching augment

[slender sparrow]

Can't wait for Talons Prime lol

[covert lily]

think I put my in game handle in proflie if you wanna whisper

[pearl parcel]

your the optimization guy, what thrown sidearm deals the absolute most damage

[slender sparrow]

I am not, sry.

[pearl parcel]

you certainly like to chime in that htings are unopimized or memey

[hoary bane]

because the best part about it is the fact you don't need energy nexus or energize if you just pop down a wellspring. if you build everything else right, you don't need your operator to do anything else aside from shooting a thrax every once in a while. I can not see how that "hurts shield gating" when on most frames shield gating needs energy to cast the gate ability.

[leaden obsidian]

Idk what I’m doing with cyte or neutralizer

[covert lily]

shoot faces?

[pearl parcel]

use it at point blank range, dont be a coward

[white olive]

Point gun at face, profit

[covert lily]

failed to specify whose face, injuries abound

[pearl parcel]

thats how i use Velocitus, ive had scaldra flayers breathing down my barrel when i fire

[hoary bane]

instructions unclear: health insurance CEO is dead and I'm going to jail now .-.

[pearl parcel]

damnit luigi

[white olive]

For real tho, I haven’t unlocked Cyte yet but if you’re at a loss build wise, he seems to want range and strength most of all

[leaden obsidian]

I feel like cyte would be good if the gameplay was focused on like being far back at distance, but as you’re mostly point blank with everything he feels out of place

[devout burrow]

cause zenurik has an ability that gets you a free ability cast every 90s, which can easily kill you cause you dont spend energy on the free ability and hence cant get your shields back. also zenuriks energy regen is pretty mid without nourish, most builds work fine by just using equilibirum cause equilibirum actively scales your energy economy with the amount of kills you get. Energize is nice if you dont have any mod slots anymore but energize has a cooldown so on very energy hungry frames energize also wont do too much. same with energy nexus cause 3 energy/s is laughable, its only really decent with nourish on decent strength

most of the time madurai is the way to go

or vazarin if you dont need the extra operator damage and want free invincibility

[pearl parcel]

ok how do i get Nitain extract that isnt from nightwave

[slender sparrow]

You wait for GHOOOOUUUUULLLSSS

[covert lily]

Depends on the mission I imagine. Techrot areas are pretty difficult for him I imagine but there's a lot of long corridors on the above ground I've been camping with a grinlok

[hoary bane]

dude, you're watching too many knightmareframe videos

[slender sparrow]

I mean Ghoul Purge bounties on Plains of Eidolons.
Happen every other week or so

[devout burrow]

I dont watch content creators usually, nor do I base my my arguments off of them, its just facts

[wise tundra]

I'm lacking a lot of endo rn. Is there a way to farm for it? I've unlocked the star chart upto Jupiter so far now

[devout burrow]

vazarin is free invincibility, idk how you wanna argue against it

[hoary bane]

cyte kinda want's a bit of everything, I use 3 red strength shards to get up to 200% and keep everything positive

[sonic dirge]

Why can't drifter play shawzin to umbra

could make this little scene better

[covert lily]

Tbh I think Banshee's raw power and ease from Sonar is probably strictly stronger than Cyte in most cases still, wish my girl had 4 abilities.

[leaden obsidian]

Maybe, it might just be his sniper throwing me for a loop and is giving 2 different signs. His kit feels more like an up close assassin, then comes his 4 which feels out of place

[hoary bane]

and 75% of the warframe roster dosn't need it because they have ways to tank, shield gate, be invincible, or invisable using energy

[pearl parcel]

are the Cantare any good

[covert lily]

I'll have to see what I feel. Plan on feeling him out with my trusty twin rogga and a sniper

[hoary bane]

so how is zenurik bad again?

[devout burrow]

yep thats why I said if you want free invincibility, never have I said its a must use on any frame

[covert lily]

Cantare aren't bad, but the damage is in the recall

[leaden obsidian]

Gl, rn for me he just feels mid

[slender sparrow]

Because it was way better before DE nerfed it

[pearl parcel]

so its not a navigator nuke type weapon

[devout burrow]

I havent said that zenurik is bad either, its just bad on shield gating builds which nowadays is a lot of builds and hence kinda falls behind madurai

[slender sparrow]

I never liked Focus 3.0

But dat's just old Eidolon hunting me

[devout burrow]

if you dont use shield gating builds go ahead and use zenurik

[covert lily]

I'll check real quick if you can navigate the rebound, but I have a feeling I already tried it and it's a no

nah, it doesn't count as a projectile throw if you reload, sorry

[pearl parcel]

ehh not everything has to work with nav, and i like the concept of setting up a trap and returning them to me

[devout burrow]

and you also said that zenurik is good for everything: #gameplay-discussion message
which I just argued isnt

just a wording issue if you wanna come to a conclusion

[covert lily]

I'mma tinker around with my zenistar navigator build while I'm looking at her I suppose

[pearl parcel]

i dont think they planned for a very high level person to be raiding sayas vision

[dull ferry]

I’ve yet to find a use for zenurik that couldn’t be solved with an energy pad

[covert lily]

Well, they have the steel path version it's just abysmal

[devout burrow]

idk person seems to be very biased towards zenurik for some reason, but yeah its mostly just an early school to gain energy if you dont have access to good builds yet

[wise tundra]

Ar what point should I am for Prime warframes?? I just crafted my first frame Rhino

[devout burrow]

prime warframes dont really change much other than their looks so start using them whenever

some have higher energy pools, which is the most notable point tbh

[dull ferry]

Whenever you like. A good amount of primes are easier to get then their base forms

[pearl parcel]

ooh i get to play as the stalker in this quest?

neat

[wise tundra]

So Primes are not significantly better than their base forms???

[dull ferry]

Significant, no. Especially not on frames. But they look cooler. And I always feel better about investing on primes over non-primes
Primed weapons usually have a decent bonus tho.

[devout burrow]

primes also come with more pre-installed polarities so easier to build (most of the time cause sometimes DE drinks too much and gives a frame like 3 vazarin polarties)

[wise tundra]

Ahh ok. What do you suggest I do now then??

[dull ferry]

Judging how you just got rhino, just keep clearing planets

[wise tundra]

Yeah I just cleared Europa junction

[dull ferry]

Oh yeah, you got plenty to go

[wise tundra]

Are there any weapons I should get at MR 4? I'm using Heat Sword/Guandao and Boltor rn

[devout burrow]

any weapon thats modded decently works for star chart

just enjoy the game fr

[dull ferry]

Pretty much anything works. You’ll get the broken war soon from quests, that’ll carry you for a while

[devout burrow]

worry about builds later when it matters

[timid berry]

I can give u some nods that will help I'd u want

Mods**

[dull ferry]

Don’t give the guy free stuff. Let him play the game

[devout burrow]

bro is trying to destroy the experience smh

[dull ferry]

Thats not helpful.

[timid berry]

Yall act like I'm giving him max rank corrupted and primed mods

[dull ferry]

You shouldn’t give him anything

[devout burrow]

anything else legit drops from breathing at a lvl 4 butcher

[timid berry]

Damn giving a energy nexus is too op

[wise tundra]

What mods should I get for Rhino? And is there any place where I can get em stably?

[dull ferry]

Judging how he’s not meant to get it till whispers, yeah

[devout burrow]

anything basic for builds drops from low rotation mission rewards so he'll do just fine without help

[timid berry]

Ok and? Not like energy nexus is a broken op mod that solos the game

[dull ferry]

Still ruining the experience of the game by just throwing stuff at him. It’s just a scummy thing to do

[timid berry]

Helping=scummy? Yall r wild

[devout burrow]

at the beginning just mod for armor and health, maybe some strength to get buffs on your roar and you are pretty much good to go
use flow if you have it too for more energy

[wise tundra]

Mods arent as much of a problem to me rn as Endo is? I cannot properly level up a few mods without running out

[timid berry]

No longer helping this community f this

[gusty patio]

He can always buy it

You are awful dude

[pearl parcel]

your names partially accurate, your a damn clown

inbras just helping people

[gusty patio]

What??? Im not wifh@dull ferry

[pearl parcel]

oh

[gusty patio]

Read the room man

Shame on you

[pearl parcel]

hey im supporting inbra too you blunt

[gusty patio]

Atleast this server is better than community one

With biased mods

[devout burrow]

shi went down real quick over nothing

discord type shi

[white olive]

New player asks for help
Dude offers help in a different way
”don’t do that, that’s scummy”

????

[slender sparrow]

[leaden obsidian]

don’t be giving nods out to people

[timid berry]

Yall came at me over trying to help and if it ruins the experience so much he literally can spend money to get mods he shouldn't have at the start but me offering a energy nexus and sone qop mods is scummy?? That is the last tonr I will ever offer a new player or anyone not my friend help ever again

[slender sparrow]

Some people just want to see the world burn.

[wise tundra]

Maybe I shouldn't speak for a while

[white olive]

You’re fine, the other dude’s just being weird

Helping new players out isn’t scummy, it’s being helpful

[leaden obsidian]

You’re fine, idk what pvz’s problem is with giving energy nexus for free

[wise tundra]

Alr. Where can I get Endo stably??

[leaden obsidian]

Energy nexus isn’t even broken

[white olive]

At MR4 you can do the Deadlock Protocol, where you can get the Xoris which is a popular/pretty good glaive

[leaden obsidian]

Early game endo, bounties, stuff like cetus bounties can give a decent chunk

[white olive]

You can also scrap duplicate mods for endo, if you have a lot sitting around

[leaden obsidian]

For early game atleast, when you unlock later areas you’ll get better endo

[leaden obsidian]

Tbh more worth it later on when you have many hundreds to scrap for a good few thousand endo at a time

[next kiln]

[white olive]

Eh, true

[leaden obsidian]

But also that’s an option early on, won’t be as effective as it would be later on

[spark mortar]

Anything I should improve in this build?

Apart from getting more forma

[leaden obsidian]

Wut

[next kiln]

You know what you did

[leaden obsidian]

I don’t

Oh wait I didn’t ping sleepyboi yet

[leaden obsidian]

ping

[pearl parcel]

bastard

[leaden obsidian]

[next kiln]

U do

[leaden obsidian]

Wut

[next kiln]

You know what you did

[leaden obsidian]

I don’t

[lusty bough]

Why does it say invalid target when i target enemy with khora and try to cast ensnare?

[leaden obsidian]

What enemy are you trying to ensnare

[next kiln]

You do

[clear cedar]

Does anyone here use Afentis, and if so how well does it perform in SP?

[slender sparrow]

You use it to buff Knell.
It works

[clear cedar]

What about as a weapon in its own right though?

[slender sparrow]

I don't know, sry

[clear cedar]

Ok, thanks anyway

[strong field]

😶‍🌫️

[pearl parcel]

hey in the camp where can i find ordis

it says i can buy a blueprint i want from him

[thick cape]

He's over behind the guy in Kahl's camp cooking something, just go straight back n to the left

[pearl parcel]

hes meant to be right there?

[thick cape]

nono, by the "fence"

[pearl parcel]

the fence?

[thick cape]

he's off to the guy's left, if that helps

hang on lemme get a screenshot

[leaden obsidian]

Left of kahls garrison

Simplest version of “where ordis”

[pearl parcel]

oh i found him, thanks

can i skip this long dialogue or am i stuck listening to his rant if i want Cantare

[thick cape]

if you want? tho its a little more lore

[pearl parcel]

dude i could trade all the lore i care about for a single corn chip

[timid berry]

Nah lores op except for 1999 I'm more confused than I was b4

Still so many questions

[timid berry]

Banshee can't have nun confirmed 😭

[pearl parcel]

i only get like 17 motes for a mission of ascension?

how many does a cantare cost

[leaden obsidian]

She has octavia tho

[timid berry]

Do sp version

[pearl parcel]

300

ooh i can get free melee afflictions

[leaden obsidian]

Sp gives like 20-30ish I think

[pearl parcel]

hey whats the 60% fire mod

[timid berry]

Which one there's multiple

[pearl parcel]

melee

[leaden obsidian]

60/60 heat melee mod?

[pearl parcel]

ye

[leaden obsidian]

Good question, I forgor its name

[timid berry]

Volcanic edge sleepy

[pearl parcel]

danke

[leaden obsidian]

Am tired

[timid berry]

Same had a horrible sleep

[leaden obsidian]

Fair

[pearl parcel]

id sleep better if milk wasnt trying to get into my attic

[leaden obsidian]

Just drink them, simple

[pearl parcel]

Milk is a cat

[timid berry]

Oh I wad so lost😂😂😂

Like u can't just say milk u invite so many questions 😂🤣💀

[leaden obsidian]

So get milk a cup then

[fair flame]

Redrum redrum!

[void summit]

I heard there's an arcane that gives strength for every 250 hp. Would anyone want to tell me the name of it. Been looking for it. Ty

I figured it out LOL.

[leaden obsidian]

Arcane something is the name

[void summit]

It's called arcane bellicose apparently

[fair flame]

You need like 3000+ hp to max it out

[pearl parcel]

milk is my brothers cat

i do not like my brother, or his cat

[leaden obsidian]

Good for inaros and potentially nudis

[fair flame]

Like I already have an idea on how to make the arcane useful on most frames by using arcane blessing but that requires to get HP orbs and yes you would both be increasing your ability strength and survivability on squishy frames. But at the same time molt augment exist for just killing things. So both setups are ramping up strength overtime....

[twin void]

hi guys im new and im just going to ask how will i complete the mercury junction mission so i can have the archwing

[leaden obsidian]

Bellicose gives a better str buff but requires more of a set up, augmented requires kills for 12% less str

[pearl parcel]

you kill the frame

[twin void]

thanks for the reply @pearl parcel but how, sorry im still learning to navigate

[pearl parcel]

please dont ping me

[twin void]

ok

[leaden obsidian]

He gets angy if he’s pinged

[leaden obsidian]

ping

[pearl parcel]

bastard

[twin void]

ill take note of that lol

[leaden obsidian]

[pearl parcel]

hey whats that mod that just directly increases status chance called

on melee

[timid berry]

Best on nidus I dotn think inaora needs much strength but I have to update my build anyways so

Melee prowess