update-42-the-shadowgrapher

[abstract junco]

||I'd actually come to a similar conclusion myself some time ago, noting the similarities between the Murmur's stone bits and the stony remains of Sentients on Earth, plus the fact Natah couldn't see the Indifference when it appeared at the end of The New War||

[solid needle]

[verbal matrix]

ok my crackpot theory isnt that far lol

Natah has seen the sucker before, she told us in the rolypoly fight

And like after in the sanctum she hasnt shied from telling us that she senses it

but also sentient bodies arent like the murmur

constructed way too differently

[fading summit]

why am I cursed with getting 2 of the blueprints and the next 10 rounds I only get those two

[quartz ravine]

shame none of the attachments feel right on her

[rare jackal]

Does anyone know if ||The Guilty has accolade glyphs? feels very superboss-like, but not sure what frames it would be if so||

[verbal matrix]

yes

I saw a wisp one recently

maybe a limbo one too not sure

[azure fulcrum]

Probably Wisp, Uriel, and Harrow if I had to guess

[rare jackal]

That would make sense, but usually there are 6 per so I'm wondering what the other 3?

[azure fulcrum]

No idea

[rare jackal]

Probably not because I think he already has one right?

[acoustic python]

What does The Guilty even offer? I hear it's harder, but if there are any specific rewards I've not heard.

I know nothing beyond what the patch notes mentioned, but I can guess the outline.

[tawny berry]

man follies hunt is brutal

the follie zones are just staight up unfair

they spawn right in my face, their debuff stacks don't immediatly reset when you leave the area so when you are out of them and a new one spawns it immediatly begins to damage you with crazy high rates

they give electric procs for some reason???

and they slow you down like you are carrying a dragon key

[vital cave]

her teleports are telegraphed a bunch though, you can usually bait her to teleport then run the other way

[rare jackal]

||One time rewards: An Honoria, Sumdali, Accolade Glyphs? (Heard from word of mouth but can't find actual proof)||
Other than that, it seems just 10 lyroic bridge and an antique arcane?

[tawny berry]

operator can't even teleport when carrying ink so when such a follie spawns right in your face it's gg

[vital cave]

you can slide, and it only takes 1 or 2 slides to get out of the zone

[sacred crane]

rolling gets the job done

[tawny berry]

yeah i was starting to roll but still, you can go invis and it helps a ton but i mean yeez if you do something wrong it is unforgiving

idk is there a specific amp that is good in that gamemode?

[vital cave]

i've been using my 611 that i made for levelling w/o issue

[verbal matrix]

use any amp that you dont need to aim

this will help with the facsimileß

[dire parrot]

how are you guys liking this update?

[simple talon]

my tip roll + zenurik slow makes them pretty much a statue

[azure fulcrum]

Revert it

[tawny berry]

ah i have been trying with madurai to kill them quicker

[simple talon]

💀 dare i ask why?

[tawny berry]

i have just been using the one bouncy ball amp

[vital cave]

not terrible, not fantastic. it's alright

[humble mica]

Roll

[tawny berry]

but the damn zones are my issue, the gamemode itself is good i like it, but the zones man are so tuff

[humble mica]

The kamehameha amp works good too

[acoustic python]

i think follie's mission is the worst thing DE has ever added.

can't speak to the rest of the update.

[tawny berry]

gotcha from everybody else

[verbal matrix]

kill fascimilie, roll

[simple talon]

if there was more open space it would be 10x better, but that fact that you can have 5-6 follies stacked in one hallway ruins it for me

[tawny berry]

just gonna grind it on normal mode instead of steelpath. My weapons for some reason don't do enough damage i guess

which is weird tbh

[sacred crane]

mostly good i would say

[verbal matrix]

odd, what are you trying to damage

[humble mica]

You can shoot follies duplicates

[tawny berry]

the statues that create the follie zone

[simple talon]

oh i know, but they like to be invulnerable in the hallways, whenever i see a damagable one i kill it

[verbal matrix]

?? They're objects, maybe youre missing them? They get smaller as they get hit

[dire parrot]

why

[tawny berry]

and i guess my amp doesn't do as much either, i do have everything from the old peace that should make me stronger but i guess not for this XD

[verbal matrix]

I know I missed it a few times at first

[verbal matrix]

reconfig your op mod loadout, prioritise health and movement speed

[tawny berry]

yeah i know i always have to hit them 5 times, even with burston incarnon

[simple talon]

5 times, its like three is it not?

[tawny berry]

ah maybe that is what i am doing wrong with op

[verbal matrix]

I think they take 1 damage each instance lol

[verbal matrix]

thats why you have 3 configs

[tawny berry]

strange

[verbal matrix]

one just for follie

[tawny berry]

yeah apparently XD

[verbal matrix]

you dont need to kill with the amp, your warframe can clear enemies once youve delivered the ink

[simple talon]

and i think while u cant dash u can void mode for invis, ive done it a few times but i cant confirm

[verbal matrix]

I wonder if roll is affected by op sprint speed

[simple talon]

i dont think so, since wf have a seperate roll speed stat

it should be parkour velocity affected? maybe?

[tawny berry]

yeah you can go invis which i have been using to keep the enemies at bay. However the balloons can still target you as does follies zones

[tawny berry]

it's affected by dodge speed and parkour velocity

[pastel bluff]

this update is bad. like bad bad.

[worldly hull]

so

question

nightmare missions don't give the uh... "ink"

was reb wrong or... will they only do that during the event?

[winged minnow]

||yeah, you can get one as Wisp, but it's not the full Devil's Triad, since I just finished one on solo as Uriel and didn't get any... prob has one as Harrow as well||

[tawny berry]

that will most likely only happen during the clan operation

[simple talon]

can we see the wisp one pretty please?

[winged minnow]

so, the nightmare missions won't give you the rewards to get Follie or other stuff from the new vendor, they WILL give you stuff for the operation when it releases

[winged minnow]

sure, why not

[tawny berry]

||damn i thought it would be for all the commandeered primes?||

[winged minnow]

||don't make sense for all of them, since we already got one as Volt for the Apex Tank||

[simple talon]

||time to go and clear for the harrow one :D||

[tawny berry]

oh true

[winged minnow]

||don't have him ||

[simple talon]

||im abt to go get it, any tips?||

[rare jackal]

||same with protea for 60 eyes||

[winged minnow]

||classic hardmode boss stuff with full shieldgate, nara's mods and sampotes, for primary Burston with incarnon form||

[simple talon]

slam time ig :D

[winged minnow]

||also that, yeah, so it's either some of them, like Ash or Mesa, or something else entirely||

[winged minnow]

yyyyyyep

||i'll try Mesa now, will tell you how it will go||

[simple talon]

||doing harrow will send when i get it||

[winged minnow]

||also, Arcane Ice is a MUST HAVE, due to Ember and Dactolysts dealing heat damage that oneshots you, same with Hunhulus||

[tawny berry]

straight bars yall! 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

[fading summit]

my 5th enkaus blueprint

[winged minnow]

what? those ARE spoilers

[tawny berry]

i know i just found it funny that the whole chat currently were these spoiler bars

[winged minnow]

also, Matthew Chalmers cooked like CRAZY with the soundtrack

[vocal barn]

Indeed
Speaking of which, am I crazy or does the new music have part of Sideshow Bob's motif in it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI1rQxB8uY0

[dire parrot]

whos the "merchant" for this update?

[abstract junco]

Some dude in the Hexis area of relays

[dire parrot]

aight thx

[olive verge]

RAHHH

I needed a glyph for my caliban loadout

[winged minnow]

||oh, so it is a mix of both the triad and the vanguard||

[olive verge]

I wish the vanguard glyphs were primes though

Missed opportunity

[cursive hollow]

Attragraph mods do nothing other than cosmetic? sooooo..... why should you even grind for them?

[misty violet]

Cause they're neat

[winged minnow]

same reason as to why people collect stuff like cards - the looks

[naive lichen]

super ass. those who play this game every day knows that really good. people say players in general. like dude, there are more than 15k players running meta arbitrations

[misty violet]

Like collecting shiney pokemon

[naive lichen]

what if my teammate wants that speed buff

its capped now

[tawny berry]

dude this helps so much... 😭

[tawny berry]

why would you grind any cosmetic? Because you want them and they are cool as hell

[dreamy laurel]

at this point i think they know if things will upset players, they mess up on purpose

[tawny berry]

damn fr?

why?

[cursive hollow]

But..... you cant even see them other than the mod screen?

Why

[misty violet]

Would like a way to cc follie in the mission. Least long enough so I can revive a teammate

[cursive hollow]

Why would anyone grind for drip you cant show in game???????????????

[tawny berry]

because you want them. How is that hard to understand?

[cursive hollow]

??????????????????????????????????????????

[tawny berry]

if you don't want them don't grind them. simple as that

i for one want them really badly

so imma grind them

[misty violet]

Few extra plat for selling

[tawny berry]

something to stun her out of her zones

like her zones just dissipate

[naive lichen]

its a mistake that they listen to players feedback through this discord...

ive also seen how someone wants wisps motes nerf

lol

[cursive hollow]

This feels like something that sounded really cool in the concept stage that never panned out and somebody remembered it existed, but decided to just push it with the update without polishing it too much

Im sorry but this is a warframe L

Im nowhere near as active on warframe as I was a year ago and even then I wouldn't have grinded them

[olive verge]

The mode itself is fine I think. A few tweaks would make it better. The real horror is in the drop table and vendor prices

[lofty heron]

lmao why is the icon for the mission so large

[winged minnow]

||huh, weirdly enough, I didn't get one as Mesa...||

[tawny berry]

it's just a cool little cosmetic for your own satisfaction. Nobody here is pushing you to grind them

[winged minnow]

so you would see it

jokes aside, prop a visual glitch

[olive verge]

There is one real argument for getting a few: marking mods you intend to keep and use so you don't accidentally equip a mod you intend to sell

[tawny berry]

damn that's actually a neat use for them other then just being cosmetic

[olive verge]

So like if I have two galvanized diffusions (because havent been bothered to trade) I could make one sparkly and special and that's the one I know I will equip and use

[gleaming eagle]

oh gods we're about to have an operation running Vesper Relay. Oh no.

[olive verge]

Thats the only genuine use case I can think of

[winged minnow]

||so we can cross out Uriel and Mesa from the accolade glyphs||

[rare jackal]

So just || Wisp and caliban for right now right?||

[winged minnow]

as far as we know - yes

[olive verge]

||Ash and ember too||

[winged minnow]

Tin said ||they'll try Harrow, so I guess they're still trying it||

[olive verge]

No ||harrow||

[winged minnow]

spoilers, dude

[olive verge]

Forgor

[winged minnow]

hmmmm

very strange pool then

[olive verge]

||OBERON?????||

[winged minnow]

HUH

I am feeling pretty tired, so I'll be off for today, but I think that the entire community will figure out it all within a day or two

so, good night y'all

no matter what people say, this update is good, in my opinion

[rare jackal]

|| If Oberon is actually one of them anything is possible 💀||

[winged minnow]

a bit grindy, but still cool

[olive verge]

We only need one more unless they broke tradition

[rare jackal]

G’night!

[olive verge]

||he is||

[ripe surge]

patch notes say follie main bp can drop from follie's hunt, drop table says it cannot drop and all rewards reach 100% of drop chance without it. I don't want to spend 1.2k armathings to hear it was a bug

[olive verge]

Thats ghe crazy part

[olive verge]

Honestly I'd wait to see if they reduce and change things atp

[winged minnow]

hotfix incoming

like in 3 minutes incoming

[sacred crane]

Hotfix incoming ye

[winged minnow]

yeah, now I am confused as hell

[olive verge]

I saw it with my own eyes

[winged minnow]

well, then I have absolutely no idea who's the last one

[ripe surge]

"Fixed Follie's main Blueprint missing from the mission drop tables" I KNEW IT

[olive verge]

This is from grattler gang

Crazy pull

[winged minnow]

yep, I have no idea who's the last one then, since ||oberon|| is in the pool

it makes no sense, but ok

[olive verge]

Also holy aura farm i didnt think the vanguard could aura farm any harder

[rare jackal]

||Why even use a triad frame or vanguard frames if Oberon is in the mix ||

[winged minnow]

this entire mode is just "I'm too cool for you"

[olive verge]

Because ||my special boy caliban has one||

[humble mica]

Holy trinity

[winged minnow]

that's the thing - nobody knows

[olive verge]

||Ignore him being cut off in the screenshot||

[winged minnow]

||and also Ash and Ember||

[rare jackal]

But ||he is a vanguard ||

[winged minnow]

yep

that is why we're all confused here as to who might the last one be

[rare jackal]

Feels like they were trying to throw us off the scent

[humble mica]

Just remove the credit reward PLEASE I beg

😔

[winged minnow]

no

I love this emote

it just makes sense

[tawny berry]

wth loki was able to switch teleport with fricking hunhullus? XDDDDD

[winged minnow]

I think you need to post it in the #1485733683934658801

[tawny berry]

no that just got fixed

in the patch notes

[winged minnow]

oh, I see

who even tried that

like... why?

[tawny berry]

XD maybe it was a prompt and someone actually did it XD

[winged minnow]

I mean, it's warframe, but WHY?

[tawny berry]

that's a funny bug though XD

[humble mica]

That’s so funny lmfaoo

[winged minnow]

they deserve a medal for it then

[solid needle]

lmao WHAT

[winged minnow]

ok, folks, now I'm off, since I had a good laugh

see y'all

[rare jackal]

Bye bye

[quaint valve]

Ngl they should’ve left it in lol it’s a funny bug

[abstract junco]

Tbh the odds of someone even using useless ol Loki on a superboss is astronomically low to begin with, lol

[tough sphinx]

I completed Descendia(Steel Path) and all the Perita Rebellion quests (Hunhullus, Dactolyst, and Vanguard Steel Path), but I did not receive The Steel Path Dark Refractory Trophy and Emote.

[undone wave]

please tell me if i am going crazy or if im stupid, the amount of times i have had impeneterable ink walls block me from the final shadowgraph in follies hunt mission is insane?!

i've ran around the relay 5 times i SWEAR the final one is behind those walls.

[humble mica]

You have to take the other way around

Follie will block off hallways to trap you

As well as seal doors shut when you’re carrying paint and you have to shoot the ink off

[undone river]

Cool in concept, but in practice...

[humble mica]

Yeah

But playing hildryn made the experience 100 times more bearable and actually enjoyable

I was able to do it solo on sp

No deaths

[undone wave]

im aware of the doors being sealed but the hallway blockades remain there even after i've made distance between her. im so utterly confused because i swear my last objective is blocked behind it lol. i may just be completely stupid but idk.

[humble mica]

The hallways remain closed off, you have to take the roundabout way to the objective, it’s not blocked off completely

The relay is a circle

You just have to go in the other way

[chrome light]

Nooo I wanted to try it lmaooo

[tawny berry]

i am going for volt to speed through her auras, and then going perma invis with operator

[humble mica]

With hildryn I kill everything and destroy the obstacles

The follie mimics are easier to handle

[coarse zephyr]

Is there any reason to do it on SP? Seem to be getting the same amount of aster..pity currency

[humble mica]

So it’s only one death aura

[amber mantle]

hmm. unlocked the guilty, not sure who to take in there...

[humble mica]

Probably not but I’m too lazy to change it to normal

[undone wave]

thats kinda the problem though. both sides to the room are blocked (the room in question being the steel meridian room)
im not even sure if a shadowgraph thing spawns in there but i've ran loops around the relay like 5 times and have been unable to find it anywhere else.

[coarse zephyr]

lmfoa feel that

[tawny berry]

final reward should be double but yeah the drops from the containers makes it so you can actually earn more in normal mode sometimes

[humble mica]

Strange, maybe the way she blocks off hallways is random

[humble mica]

Yeah I’ve heard you pop the balloons or something for extras

[tawny berry]

i mean as in it's like survival with each painting giving a drop and in steel path it gives 10 and in normal you get 5

but i have just been farming the balloons to get insanely more from it

[humble mica]

My first sp run I got like 46 of the currency, so 30 is from the objectives and the rest are pickups?

Then maybe sp is the faster way

[tawny berry]

i got like a hundred once. i think the balloons respawn so like i have been stretching the final painting just to farm more of the balloons

[humble mica]

I should probably do the same then

[vital cave]

ok void mode does just completely ignore the damage zones lmao

[tawny berry]

yeah but you still gain the follie status effect and the slows

idk what the status does i think it is just the screen effects

[humble mica]

The slow is the worst

😭

But has anyone had the chance to actually play follie? Is she fun?

I really want her

[final mantle]

I have seen one already in one of my rando teams

no idea if she's fun, but I assume so

[humble mica]

Okay she’s broken 😭

I just saw a video and she’s crazy

[olive verge]

Is it over for me if I just be collecting glyphs for my loadouts

[timber thorn]

So is everyone collectively just kinda not enjoying follie's hunt or is it just me

[rare jackal]

I also don't have it, so not sure

[tawny berry]

not just you yeah

[olive arch]

same it just so clumber some and why is there like 20 of her wherever you go

[timber thorn]

Shucks

[abstract lion]

its the bad kind of stressful

[olive arch]

the problem for me is it isnt even stressful i cant even use the frames i like who rely in invs because you cant avoid her no mater where your going

[timber thorn]

Ive only been playing for like a month so im fairly new but this mode feels kinda underwhelming, I just really don't like being forced to walk around all slow as operator even if you can go invisible and avoid your fears and problems thats what makes it annoying for me

[olive arch]

ya that also super sucks one of the best things when using operator is the mobilty change and this just takes it away

[ionic axle]

It really does force you into VERY specific frames/builds to survive for more than a few seconds at a time.

[quiet scarab]

I did the bow, but where do i initiate the guilty?

[cursive hollow]

can anyone confirm you can pick up the scaldra rpg?

[olive arch]

idk in my opinion for a horror update its not very scary just annoying because if the monster is beating you into the floor the whole time there is no suspense

[timber thorn]

I wish the gathering paint thing worked more like Index where the more you have on you the greater risk you accrue at the benefit of potentially better rewards, right now this song and dance of slowly bringing one paint to the canvas again and again gets kind of tiring too quickly

[ionic axle]

There's honestly zero horror in this. I hoped for more Chains of Harrow type stuff, but it's not even close to that. I get what they were going for, but the aesthetics, especially the colour grading, actively works against the player in a really bad way. Among many other complaints. Immense frustration as opposed to any sort of horror.

[tough sphinx]

I even completed it again.

[olive arch]

agreed I like the style but i makes the map near incomprehensible and just annoyingly difficult to navigate

[ionic axle]

Yeah. I'm hopeful they take all this heavy feedback and can change things up to make it more fun. Because right now... I think it's probably the most frustrating game mode they've ever added. Or at least in any recent memory. I'm usually able to find fun in even game modes that others don't like... but it's damn hard with this one.

[abstract junco]

...I'd probably have no trouble with the map...
Granted, I've dealt with a map that was intentionally red and black without issues before, so I'm probably just built different

[timber thorn]

I did find it kind of hard to see anything, I may just have to take the content creator pill and max out my enemy highlighting

[ionic axle]

I didn't even notice the enemy highlighting doing anything, myself. So I have to wonder if it even functions in there. Which... it SHOULD, since it's an accessibility thing, but I didn't see ANY of the highlighting I usually see on things. Just the black moving globs of inky enemies on occasion.

[amber mantle]

they did mention this in the hotfix notes

Adjusted the thickness of ink enemy VFX as it affected the visibility of Enemy Highlight.

[ionic axle]

Oh did they? I didn't see that, then. I haven't hopped back on since the last hotfix, due to frustration. Ignore that then!

[inner patio]

so i done some learning, i will see if i can make a guide

[fallow viper]

I'm having fun with Follie's Hunt but the rewards seem underwhelming

[amber mantle]

probably the most annoying part is that the paint is only waypointed if you're very close to it

and since the entire damn relay looks identical, it's very easy to get turned around and forget where the paint you've stumbled across previously is

[olive arch]

I think you might be the only one but at least your having fun

[viral flint]

Heh, do love the red text

[tawny berry]

guilty spoiler:|| How in the world do you survive the guilty second phase????||

||I have been perfectly dodging walls, i have dodged every lines they shoot at me, I have dodged the giant beam of death... and I still get absolutely shredded with electric and heat procs as well as the nullified effects||

||idk what i am doing wrong???||

[primal pike]

Same. A lot of bs for a 🤏

[worldly hull]

I really want to make a meme for my shadowgraph but it's crude and vulgar :(

[simple talon]

huh oh i suck but i also read somewhere someone tried it and didnt get one so i gave up lol

[simple talon]

||he is there is someone who got one||

[dusky abyss]

what the "warframe body pillow" patch did?

[rare jackal]

||Did anyone find the 6th? So far I know Wisp, Caliban, Ash, Ember, Oberon||

[azure fulcrum]

Revenant

[azure fulcrum]

I saw Nokko on a reddit thread

[rare jackal]

really... not at all one I'd expect

[azure fulcrum]

Could be wrong, just what I read

[cursive hollow]

Follie's power color changes her ink

Obviously

You make it white : )

[dusky abyss]

Magic Girl Follie?

[last beacon]

i dont understand follies hunt i dont know what exacly im looking for

[primal kestrel]

Is the Coda Bubonico worth getting if I wasn’t too hot on the regular Bubonico?

[cursive hollow]

It’s like the game mode where you collect void wisps and charge up a ball. But you get forced into operator form

It’s uh

Gimmicky and not in the good way

I just spent plat that I had to get the bundle

I couldn’t imagine myself grinding that gamemode

[last beacon]

iiiii might just go grind ewuinox now since its not terrible now

[polar solar]

Guess I wasn't the only one who crashed out on this update

[last beacon]

i just didnt understand the new mission xD

[quaint valve]

Same

[tawny berry]

for the letters for the hexis lore

does it have to be the exact amount in your inventory or is it a total counter?

[hazy wing]

somewhat of a stealth mission but you can completely ignore that if you do it with randoms

which is working really well for me in my experience

[inner seal]

Total amount, I think.

[hazy wing]

i’m getting around 30-50+ atramentum with resource boosters

you need 2.4k for all parts

what a grind man

[silent anchor]

is it safe to farm the kuva ghoulsaw/tenet quanta or are there bugs related to those?

[radiant lantern]

How do i access the shadowgrapher?

[urban wedge]

You must finish Chains of Harrow and then head to Venus to the Vesper Relay

[rare jackal]

Steel path or star chart? I haven't run the node yet because I'm waiting for some of my friends

but seeing the thing you need for atragraphs is like 360 of the resource that sounds rough

[hazy wing]

star chart

[rare jackal]

I'm guessing its bad to run on SP? heard a lot of complaints so far

[hazy wing]

well it’s already abysmal on star chart so i can’t imagine how it is on sp

[final mantle]

I am very mixzed

I only did one run, but being stuck in a room and having to deal with narrow corridors vs an aura is just.... man, DE, I get it, I see what you wanted to do

but it doesn't really click, for me, and I don't even want to try SP with the dmg scaling and the rest

[timber thorn]

The auras kind of stopped mattering for me once I realized going invisible with operator bypasses it entirely

[final mantle]

yes that is a relief in itself

but you still take dmg, so still have to be careful I guess

ultimately, in non SP it's doable, annoying but doable

so not exactly a hit they got here, but not an abject failure in my eyes

[wary mantle]

I find follie's hunt to be a worse void flood

[timber thorn]

Its a definite miss. Kind of disappointing since this is the first major update ive been here for the launch of, I didnt start seriously playing until maybe last month

[covert vortex]

if u touch while turn to operator form it forces warframe instead

[sharp estuary]

I think Follie's Hunt is just.....too much to focus on, that's my main issue with it. I'm sure it'll get better, but ugh. Trying to figure out what to do is a bit taxing on my smooth brain

Anywhom, the real reason I'm here. Decided to yoink Marie and Minerva's Gemini skin, raaa

[cobalt jolt]

Anyone know if there's any bug in regards to the steel path rewards you're supposed to get for doing descendia and all three rebellion missions? I didn't get anything in my inbox... or do you have to do this week's descendia on steel path specifically?

[wary mantle]

To me it's completely turn my brain off and grind while watching youtube. Honestly though with what they have coming up for this year, one phoned in update is fine

[feral mason]

wooooah, it's been 11 years since I set foot in the Vesper Relay

[zenith basin]

Ditto. Too much going on at the same time.

[feral mason]

that was my fav relay before it got blown up

[zenith basin]

Also, I'm thinking it may be worth reminding people that there will be an operation soon that's centered on the mode.

[sharp estuary]

I trust DE that this update will (hopefully) just be a rough landing and it'll get better, but I will confess, I don't have much desire to farm Follie

[feral mason]

(also missed opportunity for DE to name the Gauss + Grendel skins "Dine and Dash")

[sharp estuary]

Me doing Nightmare missions for the resources:

[stray wraith]

thats trademarked 😔

[feral mason]

is it? aww

[abstract junco]

Welp, Follie's mission is utterly boring

[abstract junco]

Better yet "Fast Food"

[feral mason]

that too, yaaa

[final mantle]

well I think a quick fix for this mode, would be to highlight the things that hurt you way more than they are currently

and make it more clear when there is something you can destroy, because the visual clutter is a bit too much, for me

I expected perhaps too much of the update, but I stand by what I said, it's not a flop for me, just not a banger either, and it doesn't tarnish the rest of the game, once everyone is donezo farming this, I guess we will not exactly huh, see this mode very much

which is in all honesty sad because we all know this means DE won't feel like they can try some stuff that deviates too much from their usual formula

I also think that their horror vibe can actually work but perhaps it's more suited for something like a single player game

I do mind invincible bosses that chase you, it's not something I like but warframe does not do too much of that, so one mode is fine

I think that if they were to say, give us a way to freeze follie for say, 10 seconds with 2 minute cooldown to give you some breathing space, it would go a long way

like I'd imagine sacrificing your ink to do that for instance, or something else

[abstract junco]

I wouldn't even classify the mission as horror, it wasn't even remotely scary

[final mantle]

I still think the narrow corridors of this are too much, especially on steel path, with the dmg scaling

well it had a horror vibe, I'd say

but perhaps a quest that you do solo would have been better suited? I don't know

[abstract junco]

Maybe retro horror, from a time before color television

Lol

[final mantle]

well when I say solo quest I mean, like the side quests you do

perhaps with a bit of story behind it it would feel better

instead it's just "well go there, it's open now" I dunno it feels strange if I think about it

but hey, looking forward to Tau, Reb and the team

and it better be a banger but I trust you will deliver

even perhaps before that with another update, who knows

[zenith basin]

The shop costs are weird. The music seems fine cost-wise, the frame/weapon parts seems bloated like Citrine, so doable, but annoying as a longer-term grind, balanced slightly by them being in the drop tables of the mode.

But the Chromatic Atramentum seems weirdly expensive given how many mods exist.

[final mantle]

how much is a follie piece please? I didn't even check the shop

[zenith basin]

400 of the mode resource per part, 1200 for the BP

It's not the most egregious since they drop from the mode, and the mode isn't longer than mirror defense pools fortunately.

[final mantle]

mmmh kinda long indeed, especially if you don't SP like me
but the mods thing has a limited range so far, and I hope it's not that expensive

[zenith basin]

But it's still pricey

Which is to say, this is closer to Voruna than Citrine I think.

[final mantle]

I heard citrine is one of the longest grinds in warframe, if I'm honest I've neglected it so far

[zenith basin]

200 for each of the 3 musics, 600 for the prex, 600 for the Relay scene.

[zenith basin]

Ash is worse I think, but yeah, Citrine is up there.

[final mantle]

but Citrine is long afaik, Ash is rnjesus locked behind railjack, so

[zenith basin]

But I think Ash is in the Duviri stuff sometimes so yeah

[abstract junco]

Funny... I've been soloing railjack stuff for a while now and have been spooked by Ash's neuroptics and systems in the process

[winter bloom]

I remember getting her, I don't remember the grind being that bad

[unreal ridge]

The biggest thing for me is, why are we being punished for running in a squad? The most inks it should take to complete a graph should be 3. It shouldnt scale the more players you have

[final mantle]

yeah I didn't especially grind for her but I checked the shop and I was like, waow okay, but realizing this is long, not hard because it's rnjesus locked

[safe inlet]

Oh my god

Oh my good god

The guilty has an accolade glyph for oberon

[final mantle]

Wolf, if i'm not mistaken, it's always scaling the more players are in the squad, for all game modes

[simple talon]

it does yes

[safe inlet]

I need this

[final mantle]

so this is nothing new, it's just more annoying because follie hurts

[winter bloom]

We are??? I haven't done it in a squad, I tried it today, and granted I'm wisp....I don't die

But the entire objective wasn't intuitive, I had to ask here how to properly do the mission cuz all I got from like running around is enemies + find paint + operator + avoid Follie

[unreal ridge]

Didnt have with Jade, Kullervo, Temple, Cyte 09, dante, Qorvex. None of those frame farms had us punished while farming them

[primal wharf]

It’s just extreme pain

[simple talon]

yes that is true, all game modes scale to more enemies with more people

[zenith basin]

Follie doesn't really bother me in the mode itself. It's more that in such tight spaces you can't see your screen half the time.

[final mantle]

I went in with minimal information I did understand what I needed to do

[winter bloom]

Wouldn't a frame like Baruuk clear then?

[final mantle]

but yes tight spaces + clutter is the real issue

[safe inlet]

Has anyone defeated the guilty yet

[winter bloom]

The what

[final mantle]

I think there are videos on youtube yes

[simple talon]

yes many people

[final mantle]

gaz ttz or other people probably have clears

I didn't bother yet

[simple talon]

new super boss, its a boss gauntlet of the perita bosses

[winter bloom]

Does Baruuk clear tho

Cuz I might go stupid with the damage guys and just be chilling

Heck, Gauss might be elite for this cuz his thermal can just clear and he speed

[final mantle]

I tried with kullervo, not built for speed, I'm all about survival

and well, it works, it's the operator form where Im hurting, but I learn slow, given my age

[simple talon]

operator form is rlly bad i agree

[final mantle]

but i realize that if I am not lucky i could be there for a while

[simple talon]

but we have operator sprint speed mods so

[final mantle]

well it's on purpose, so it's not that bad I just wish there could be more visual clarity instead of clutter

but as i said, I think need more rounds to learn

[unreal ridge]

More enemies yes. Im talking about having to get more inkblots to complete the graphj

[simple talon]

i wish there was more open spaces, it feels like if ur team isnt killing them the follies can stack up a ton

[hazy wing]

i think it’s easier with more people in my opinion

my fastest clear was 5 min

[final mantle]

yeah more open spaces or actually ways to clear spots of ink in a large area would go a long way

I think my clear was around 8 minutes or so, but I'm not even sure

[unreal ridge]

I think people arent understanding what Im saying

[simple talon]

no i understand, you want more ink spaces for more people no? like more ink spawns relative to squad amt

[hazy wing]

well it’s only fair that you need more inks due to more people doing the mission

[unreal ridge]

Thats dumb

[sacred crane]

Even with the paint requirements scaling up per teammate i'm going through the mission quicker with them than i would solo

[unreal ridge]

Because that incentivizes people to not run squads or even do duos

Should be 3 ink blots to complete a graph

no more

[simple talon]

honestly wouldnt be too bad, since some of the blots are like halfway across the tileset

[olive verge]

I feel like I missed something

[tough anvil]

is the currency effected by resource booster?

[final mantle]

I would be very interested in getting A corrected if I'm wrong
B confirmed that I am right, but this scaling of materials necessary to "fill" an objective is nothing new and to my knowledge, applies to all the game modes

unless I really missed something, but needing more ink per painting to me matches the idea that you have to fill the ruptures in void mode more when there are more players

[vital cave]

i believe follie's hunt has the same scaling as void flood

[final mantle]

yeah that

so complaining about that scaling doesn't make much sense

[vital cave]

i believe void flood scaling has been complained about before
so at least some people are consistent /s
but yea i don't think its a huge deal

[zenith basin]

I think even the rewards scaling is "fine" in terms of everything in the shop except the holographic mod maker resource. Base difficulty is 9 runs at 40 per run for a 360 cost single-use thing. Compared to a 200 cost permanent music or 400 cost permanent warframe part.

[unreal ridge]

Why should that scale when several other frames that you could farm for did not do this.

[final mantle]

to me, a much higher priority is to highlight dangerous zones more, unclutter the area to give us more space to maneuver, and perhaps toning the grind down

[unreal ridge]

Literally makes no sense

[final mantle]

man, I am not DE

I am just saying that this right there is nothing new

[verbal matrix]

at least with the way follies hunt is structured, having more folks is not a detriment lol

[final mantle]

and that if you want to change something that seems like a fundation to their design, you'll have a harder time

[zenith basin]

I think the space of a relay is a poor backdrop to the mode ultimately.

[final mantle]

most likely also yes

[vital cave]

i actually really enjoy the cramped space becoming moreso as the mission progresses
its a fun challenge that needs to be adapted to
its a little bit much at times, sure, but i don't think that bit is super bad either

[final mantle]

but it has that "horror" vibe DE was I guess going for

more like "stress" à la resident evil because you know you can't really dodge well in tight spaces

[zenith basin]

If you put this same mode in Zariman sized halls, it'd be probably be fine. It's more in relation to how the camera operates in the space than the physical space.

[final mantle]

or DE gives us tool to remove the clutter so we can dodge better

since it's not something, afaik, we do a lot in a warframe game mode

[verbal matrix]

Separately, Im trying to think how many recent warframes didnt experience some player scaling to their mission nodes

[final mantle]

but apparently, they are watching our criticism, so

[verbal matrix]

maybe uriel? idk if roathe's stats get buffed the more players you got

[final mantle]

oh and roathe's fight got a few buffs apparently, i read that in the patch notes

[worthy charm]

Unlocked the guilty

[vital cave]

is there anything that hints towards what you do to unlock the guilty or was someone just. doing things.
ik what it is but how did we get here

[verbal matrix]

apparently there was a hint in the cathedral

[final mantle]

there are guides on yt if you don't want to bother, personally I think I don't want to huh, bother too much

[worthy charm]

||A book in XX99 gives a hint||

[vital cave]

interesting, i'll have to look when i next can

[onyx kite]

Same for me

[safe inlet]

These guilty bosses are so tanky its not like janus vor or fragmented one where you can maintain insane slam capacitor stacks

I saw one clear on oberon and it uses uriel's helminth which I don't have

[buoyant charm]

Guilty bosses can be dealt with,use Madurai that increase strike and others let's them use healing the 3rd operator skill,when it maxed.

And use the Madurai focus on tenno and activate 3rd skill arrows from the sky helps against the warframes and 2 big fly and 1 big one and use titania if you need it.

Or use that 3rd melee skill from tenno that shops entirely the enemies in front of him.

[abstract junco]

"3th" 🤣

It's 3rd

[buoyant charm]

Thx for fixing me.

[final mantle]

3rd? third is well, the tauron strike, but I guess it checks out

[buoyant charm]

What is interesting in that follie hunt, you find a paint use it hold invisible mode all the time and you get passed every enemy.
But some of the bosses are heavy that drains tenno energy bar quickly.

[latent juniper]

Are the rewards for the new game mode sequential?

Like I am playing with a friend and we keep getting the same rewards

[olive arch]

Am I the only one sort of disappointed with the atrograph mods i thought we would get some variety but its just follie in all of them and in some it may as well be the original from a different angle with a filter

I mean they're nice and all its just for the grind they are its kind of disappointing

[sharp estuary]

I think the biggest L from that is I don't believe other people see the mods you've had painted

[hazy wing]

what’s the guilty

[verbal matrix]

I mean, it is intended for you to be able to trade them so like, yea they should be able to see them, why wouldn't they?

[alpine path]

I wish through my soul that Follie is kept as powerful as it is now... I've never had this much fun in Warframe, likely ever

[ocean light]

Hidden hard mission

[safe inlet]

Guilty is so much harder than the other superbosses because there's almost no fodder to build stacks on except for the 2nd fight

Also is it just me or do the new accolades look kinda bland compared to the prior 18 glyphs

Also also renewal is doing nothing here

[olive verge]

Is the guilty steel path exclusive i havent tested

[safe inlet]

I will say tho I like the fight starting immediately and not doing a boring sequence for 10 minutes beforehand. Its just one mission thats 265-270

[olive verge]

Id think so

[vital cave]

probably? seems like its similar to other superbosses

[olive verge]

Yeah it is nice for a superboss to not have any setup and you can just bash your head into the wall until either it, or you breaks

Makes failure less punishing but the fight itself is longer so it kinda evens out

[primal kestrel]

Is the next CERT update going to be the next Prime drop?

[safe inlet]

I've seen someone get a 10 min clear on it and they were recommending mire/dark sword but they weren't doing much at all to the vanguard and dactolysts

[olive verge]

I saw a mire run that relied on DOTs for the vanguard

Didn't watch further past it though

[amber mantle]

does aspirant zorba know that i would die for him

he is just a little guy

[onyx kite]

A question for the devs: I was testing the faces for the operators, and I came across this:

I wanted to know if this is intentional or a bug?. If it is intentional, I think it’s great that you’ve taken into account those who suffer from this disease/condition (Vitiligo).

• For those interested, the faces are 82 and 41 (blend 0.58)

[safe inlet]

Yeah tomorrow imma have to change my mire around

[zenith basin]

What are Nightmare Tatters and how do rotations work in the mode?

A, B, C as in paintings completed I guess.

But you never finish just one of them.

[safe inlet]

I just don't know if I should bother with this ngl I love oberon but I do not like how the accolade glyph looks 😭

[zenith basin]

There also seems to be 2 reward drop tables in the visible drop tables. I guess "Extra" is just Steel Path maybe, or something different you do in the mode. Upgraded faction items in it.

[amber mantle]

event currency

and as for rotations, rotation A is your random drops, rotation B is guaranteed, rotation C is the event stuff

[zenith basin]

Ah, that would make more sense. It's weird that it's in there now though as a rotation C reward.

[amber mantle]

afaik

[olive verge]

They're kinda cool because they have the obols but they dont hit the same

Especially the vanguard should've been primed

[amber mantle]

it's tied to complexion, not to face

this one, specifically

[safe inlet]

Behind the obols there's just nothing in the background and there's not much shading on the frames themselves

[zenith basin]

So basically the Follie mode is pointless until the event is active. It's gonna suck post-event for new players by that logic.

[onyx kite]

Hmm, that's strange, because I have the default setting

[amber mantle]

weird, i changed my complexion to default and clicked through all the choices and the vitiligo one doesn't seem to be defaulted on any

[safe inlet]

I might just stick to chroma's glyph, like playing him a lot and the accolade glyph is insanely raw

[amber mantle]

but anyway it's not a problem bc if you don't want the vitiligo it's as easy as just. y'know. picking a different complexion

personally you can pry C-24 from my cold goddamn hands bc i love the lil beauty marks under the lips and eye

[sharp estuary]

Oh my god

Wide Aoi emoticons are real

DE, please don't change them. It's hilarious

[sharp estuary]

I read this as C-4 and was very concerned about your extra curricular activities

[amber mantle]

wide aoi emoticons?

oh wait right her emoticons are images

[sharp estuary]

Look at your chats with Aoi when you get a chance

[amber mantle]

going to my kim rn

omg

[sharp estuary]

Heh

[amber mantle]

me when i'm cool (never)

[sharp estuary]

You're cool (not in the way you want to be)

You just have bad core temperature

[amber mantle]

you are entirely correct actually

i am plagued by cold hands 😔

[sharp estuary]

Read like a damn book

THE PLOT THICKENS

Not all emoticons are wide

......who else uses emoticons

No one:
Aoi:

◉⁠‿⁠◉

[fresh star]

does anyone know where you can see the requirements for kazio's letters? ive gotten a little under 800 atramentum but i can only read up to letter 3

[gleaming eagle]

There seems to be a bug where if you launch the mission from anywhere but your orbiter it doesn't count the accumulation of atramentum.

I have the same problem.

[verbal matrix]

up to 1200

[molten flare]

was the spawn rate for kuva lich thralls increased? they were spawning like crazy in the cap i just did

[forest dew]

Phew, that new mode is crazy. What in the Friday Night at Follies.

[molten flare]

i couldn't find anything in the patch notes, but it did feel like it was greatly increased. they spawned close together. i'd kill one and almost immediatly see another spawn

[junior swan]

So I have feedback on ways to improve Follie's Hunt.
I do mean actual feedback and not just complaining.

[molten flare]

put it in feedback

[junior swan]

I don't see it in my channel list T-T

[verbal matrix]

#1485733628611657925

I gotchu

[river hedge]

she is now a paintball player

[dusky wolf]

Do follies parts have a chance to drop? Or is it just the material

[molten flare]

all parts and the blueprint have a chance to drop. hotfix 1 fixed the fact her main bp wasn't dropping

[fresh iron]

Good to know

[river hedge]

oh god the sigil works so well as paint splatters

[zenith basin]

5% rate, you should be getting the material alongside all other drops. Rotation A rewards are all the frame/weapon parts, endo, credits and faction medallions. Rotation B is the resource and Rotation C isn't popping yet (it's the event resource apparently)

Rewards should roll each table.

[fresh iron]

Wish there was a more reliable way to see mission rewards post mission

[amber mantle]

....huh.

i just found a new honoria that isn't on the lists yet :]

[worthy charm]

By the void she's stunning

[amber mantle]

oh my god of course that's what it's called. amazing. incredible.

[waxen mortar]

I honestly really don't zorba

[sharp estuary]

It's Zorbin' time

[sharp estuary]

I am curious

[amber mantle]

i guess i shouldn't gatekeep 😔

[slate wraith]

Go home Chungus

[sharp estuary]

no

[slate wraith]

yes

Before I tell Mom!

[worthy charm]

Here we go again

[amber mantle]

"Divine Comedian"

[waxen mortar]

Funny

[river hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dmc-devil-may-cry-dmc5-vergil-gif-16635346035922372598

[strange crane]

oh, good, they fixed that, i was rather annoyed when i did that and found out you got nothing for it back when it first came out since it was such an obvious reference to make

...although for some reason i seem to not have the actual title for it, but oh well, i'll just do a quick runthrough sometime soon to fix that

[amber mantle]

i guess it's not retroactive

i take him through every so often just for easy noctua scans

[low wadi]

new grendel cosmetics are goated for qorvex

[verbal matrix]

welp, getting that next

[sharp estuary]

Har har

[sharp estuary]

IT'S HIM. DANCING GUY

[river hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dmc-gif-26123166

John Dante DMC

anyway, mr21 achieved

[sharp estuary]

I'm kinda sad we haven't got this as an emote, yet

[river hedge]

Dine and Dash

[sharp estuary]

My favourite mastery rank

Oraxia

[river hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-dmc-vergil-devil-may-cry-dmc-dmc-5-gif-4093957674941562090

[low wadi]

The way the grendel sigil renders through armour pieces annoys me

[sharp estuary]

I hope one day DE make it so Ephs and other effects apply to armour and Syandanas ngl

[low wadi]

Lowkey i expected Kickback to have a gimmick like the blood sigil

[olive verge]

Holy shit

[sharp estuary]

Pickle

[low wadi]

Like it builds up dirt as you move depending on how fast youre going and gradually fades when you stand still

Is what i expected

[sacred crane]

I got a question about the guilty

||How do you get the glyphs? Do you have to beat it with the Warframe that has one or? Because i just beat my first attempt with Wisp Prime and i didn't get any glyph||

[olive verge]

Were you solo

[sacred crane]

Oh it has to be solo?

First time doing this kind of thing

[olive verge]

Yeah

[sacred crane]

Gotcha

[primal kestrel]

Context: I saw a Hildryn fashion frame on Bluesky and it went harder than diamonds with the Gauss deluxe chest plate
Question: do I keep my plat or do I cave into the Spartan-esque aesthetic?

[sharp estuary]

Mesh both

[verbal matrix]

how much plat you got

[primal kestrel]

Iirc I’m sitting somewhere around the 6k range

[olive verge]

Spartan spartan or Spartan spartan

[primal kestrel]

Halo Spartan

[olive verge]

Hell yeah

[verbal matrix]

lol you have plat enough to spare, get the whole bundle for 855 plat

[primal kestrel]

The only thing stopping me from getting the big bundle is that I don’t play Gauss or Grendel enough to warrant such investment(I say as I have full τ shards on both of them)

[verbal matrix]

just get it

what is that much plat for if not to spend

[olive verge]

Gauss is so cool but hes kinda boring

[river hedge]

coda coda bubonico

[vital cave]

hell yeah

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/blight-dead-by-daylight-gif-21230128

[sharp estuary]

I'm still wondering if I can do the Guy Gardner middle finger

[sharp estuary]

A quirky white boy (me) when the fajitas are sizzling

[primal kestrel]

If I ever get Follie, do I have to customize her sketchbook or are there default images I can use?

[sharp estuary]

There's default icons I believe

[strange crane]

yes, there are default icons for all of the things you can spawn already if you don't feel like making your own

[timber thorn]

just had an incredibly stressful run of Hunt where my two other squadmates straight up Died and i was the only one left to find the last 2 paints while I also had no revives and yeah, i guess at that point i have to admit the horror aspect kind of works!

all that for my third chassis blueprint and like 40 juice

[flat musk]

Anyone got any recommended Shards for Follie?

[worthy charm]

I'm running 3 strength and 2 casting speeds atm

[versed rivet]

God follie’s hunt give so much endo

[modern oak]

Anybody have a guess on how long the quest takes

[cursive hollow]

My follie has almost 200 strength from arcane bellicose and basic mods

[abstract lion]

what quest?

if you mean follies hunt, there is no quest

[modern oak]

I got the wrong idea, it's just a new game mode

I thought there was gonna be a story quest😔

[abstract lion]

what you get is a sloppy half-assed attempt at getting you to just buy the follie bundle instead of suffering the atrocious grind

[modern oak]

I don't mind the grind. I plan on doing it with my family

Although if there's exclusive cosmetics I'm a sucker for those 💔

[verbal matrix]

ah, the same old line for every warframe release

[stray wraith]

does anyone know if atragraph mods are tradeable?

[verbal matrix]

they should be

[stray wraith]

WOO gifting my vet tech sibling atragraph animal instinct

[quasi temple]

same

[bleak trench]

Patch notes indicated they are.

[stray wraith]

yippee

[versed rivet]

Do we have accolades for The Guilty difficulty?

[stray wraith]

follie's base form is such a banger i can't decide what colors to fashion her with lmao

[vital cave]

mhm

[versed rivet]

NOOOO

Well, i know how to cheese this in every boss except hunhullus 2nd phase

Sampotes slam spam

[vital cave]

i've heard its a little harder than just that
but i've not done it myself either

[versed rivet]

Ive tried it with 4 man random coop

Its got the nullification but the get shredded by my slampotes

Except hunhullus in every phase, in which i used burston

And it also shredded his hp

[verbal matrix]

damn I dont have slampotes ready lol

[versed rivet]

I need a strong archgun for this

I onky use kuva grattler

[verbal matrix]

thats a strong archgun LOL

[versed rivet]

I think its bc im playing in coop that i only tickle the guy

[verbal matrix]

might want to check your archgun mod build. send it here

[verbal matrix]

lol swap empowered for flare

[versed rivet]

But i still have blast on

Flare only works when im dealing heat dmg

[verbal matrix]

take blast off, youre here to kill hunhullus

[versed rivet]

Blast is built in to the gun

[verbal matrix]

then add heat

it shouldn't mix iirc

remove marked target and place a heat mod

do it in a separate config

[runic stream]

How's the new update so far? Any good?

[verbal matrix]

its a play and find out sitch

mixed bag depending on person

[versed rivet]

Does anyone build their archwing?

[potent quiver]

gg

only thing I had to buy from zorba was the enkaus barrel

[stray wraith]

anyone have build notes for follie?

[worthy charm]

Ahhhhh.... only 84 left...

[eternal atlas]

Maybe was just cause I've only played on PC but here I expected the Venus Relay's maps to be based on the older interior like what is at Saturn and Pluto. But apparently the wiki says it was an XBox-only relay that got the Mercury Relay interior prior to the big relay synch-up that rendered it ruined.

[abstract lion]

one question: what the f&#k?

[worthy charm]

What ever do you seem to be referring to

[eternal atlas]

I can only assume it was the use of more forma than the frame has mod slots.

[abstract lion]

did you put 16 omni formas on her

[versed rivet]

Whats a void raider mission?

[worthy charm]

No just 10

[waxen mortar]

defend baro for like 10 waves as inaros

[abstract lion]

i dont know if 10 omnis or 16 omnis pisses me off more

[worthy charm]

I'm back onto regular formas now

[spice bridge]

i just did all 3 perita missions in sp and finished the descindia in sp and still no dark refractory trophy, what am i missing ?

[versed rivet]

Slampotes reign supreme

[waxen mortar]

are you trying to unlock the guilty? or wdym sry

[spice bridge]

the dark refractory sp trophy decoration

[verbal matrix]

send sampotes build

[spice bridge]

like the sp planets you get for finishing a planet in sp

[waxen mortar]

oh thats a thing for it?

[spice bridge]

ye

[versed rivet]

It just shreds the frame and the dactolysts

It is a thing, yes

[spice bridge]

IM NOT GETTING THIS

what do i do

[versed rivet]

Idk?

[waxen mortar]

do you need to finish the guilty too?

[spice bridge]

i don't think so

maybe because i never did them in normal path ??

[vital cave]

that's probably it yes

[olive verge]

Iirc ive never ran descendia normal

And I have it

So idk

[spice bridge]

i did do the descendia normal but never the perita

[vital cave]

normally you need to do the regular one to access the sp
not sure if any of the refractory 'nodes' are different in that regard

[spice bridge]

can't remember tbh

[verbal matrix]

I take it afflictions is severely raising up the gas procs

[versed rivet]

I think so?

it hardly matters bc the waves deal more dmg than the dot

[verbal matrix]

ah! so why afflictions?

[cobalt jolt]

Same here... :(

[versed rivet]

Bc it was for normal ads

Indont even mind if u just change slampotes to magislam

[verbal matrix]

damn, I did use a magistar, it barely tickled them

I couldn't build up combo to activate the incarnon

[versed rivet]

Oh right m this isnt apex tank

Slampotes is the way

[olive verge]

I still rock magistar mostly because I have a riven

8x combo slams do indeed go crazy

[versed rivet]

Honestly tho, the hardest part is the frames, dactolyst is just a 3 sec nuke and its hunhullus time

And hunhullus isnt that hard either bc all u need to prioritize is just grapple in the air and shoot his third eye

[spice bridge]

is inaros good in the guilty mode ? i facetanked the fragmented one, apex tank and janus vor with him so i suppose he's gonna be the go to warframe for this ?

[versed rivet]

It depends if u can keep up ur energy

[spice bridge]

hunter adrenaline works ?

[verbal matrix]

I can just kill them with toxo, your slampotes is a comboless build

[verbal matrix]

are you using persistence for this?

[spice bridge]

i assume there will nullifying everywhere so no

[verbal matrix]

if youve managed to survive all the other superbosses you ideally should be able to replicate the same effect

[earnest raft]

where do i look for finding the progress i have on the letters?

[safe inlet]

Why does my sentinel keep permamently despawning at the start of the guilty

This fight is so buggy 😭

[sacred crane]

using transcendence a tad too much bugs you out too

[high iris]

So

I used Jade and she's a good support for the whole thing

Cause you know. Operator connectivity to her buffs

[high iris]

Generally there's achievements and they track every 100 tick on progress.

[safe inlet]

Persistence does not work on the guilty at all

and neither does all of oberon's abilities 😭

[high iris]

What's the Guilty?

[versed rivet]

hard mode perita rebellion that is just a gauntlet of all 3 bosses

@high iris

[safe inlet]

Are you serious

All that for 10 LYROIC BRIDGE 😭 😭 😭

[versed rivet]

yuh

[safe inlet]

I feel ripped off lmao

but its whatever

they gave the best my favourite frame an accolade so I had to get it

[sharp estuary]

I should do it with Wisp

That being said. Ugh

[versed rivet]

wisp has an accolade there

[safe inlet]

I'm ngl that wisp accolade glyph is so ugly

[sharp estuary]

That's the point!

I do wish they made it the Prime version

[safe inlet]

Should've been the prime or marie

[sharp estuary]

(I jest, I think it's pretty neat)

[versed rivet]

every accolades are drawn as their base version

[safe inlet]

It's very weird that harrow and uriel don't have accolades for this

I will say from this point on I'm not doing a superboss again lol

[sharp estuary]

While true, I feel like the trauma boss rush should've had their Prime Frame given the context

[safe inlet]

I have my flex loadout done with the h09 apex sumdali on

[sharp estuary]

Vor was hell for me, this.....
Ugh

I need to figure out a loadout

[versed rivet]

vor was easy

the hardest is still apex

[sharp estuary]

Eh. For me Tank was the easiest, then Fragmented then Vor

[safe inlet]

Vor was the easiest imo and its fast to retry runs

[sacred crane]

I want to get mirage's accolade but i've been struggling with it

[sharp estuary]

I am a fan of bullying the "Apex" Tank

[versed rivet]

just play every accolades with the same build, then there will be no differences in gameplay

[sharp estuary]

I think it's the arena for me

[versed rivet]

save for a few

[safe inlet]

My order of easiest to hardest goes
Janus Vor > Fragmented One > Guilty > Apex Tank

[sharp estuary]

So, abuse Rolling Guard, basically

[versed rivet]

yes, and vazarin and shield gate

[safe inlet]

although the last time I played apex tank I wasn't as good at superbosses so that and guilty could be interchangable

See I'd post the mod configs of my weapons but they all have rivens

[high iris]

How do we feel abiut Follie?

[versed rivet]

mine is apex, 60 eyes, vor, guilty

[sacred crane]

Haven't gotten her yet

[sharp estuary]

I think the cursed fact is that I've defeated the Apex Tank like 13? Times

[safe inlet]

Wait

[dull zealot]

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[versed rivet]

guilty can be cheesed with slampotes more easily

[safe inlet]

I did that the wrong way around lmaoooooo

[sacred crane]

nooooo mr breast

[sharp estuary]

Be it for the Accolades, helping people get the Sumdali and the almighty Perigone

[high iris]

Not the frame but like. Her. As a person? Its obvious that the gamemode is like art therapy but it isn't Neci's voice over the monitor.

[safe inlet]

Vor is NOT the hardest lmao can't believe I mistyped that

[sharp estuary]

Mr Yeast!!

[high iris]

Is it Follie's? Is she another warframe turned against us like Oraxia?

[safe inlet]

mr breast give me money

give me 100 billion platinum

[sharp estuary]

Oh god

Hunhullus in space

[safe inlet]

Hunhullus in space is a victory lap if you have amesha

No matter what always keep amesha's 1st up

[high iris]

Anyway, trying to grind out the letters... 20-40 atra at a time

[versed rivet]

I just use whatever archwing I have on me, unmodded

[sharp estuary]

I wonder...

Shall update you soon™

[safe inlet]

ig I can share the amesha & grattler configs I just did as they don't have rivens

[versed rivet]

at the end of the day hunhullus 2nd phase is just a bullet hell with easily telegraphed lazers

[safe inlet]

Yeah even with archwing mesmer skin the lasers were still very easy to dodge

[versed rivet]

just don't get hit twice within a short period of time

[sharp estuary]

Funny story!
I don't have a Grattler, lmao

[safe inlet]

Do you have Mausolon? Apparently that does even better

[sharp estuary]

I do, actually

[versed rivet]

grattler is a nice choice for hunhullus

but I also saw a clip on yt of someone using velocitus

the damage doesn't even matter so long as u can break his balls and dodge the lazers

after all, archwing fights don't have the complexity of normal warframe gaming

[worthy charm]

[versed rivet]

why is u investing in her so much

[worthy charm]

Going for 100 forma

[final mantle]

can confirm bout velocitus, one of the rare cases of it being really nice outside of archwing corpus corridors

[quartz ravine]

But why.. lol

[sharp estuary]

I don't enjoy the Hunhullus

[cobalt jolt]

Umm what the hell 💀

[sharp estuary]

"Think fast, chucklenuts"

[cobalt jolt]

Refractory is also affected

[final mantle]

that's interesting ^^

[worthy charm]

Why not. i do it cause i love the characters

[bold ocean]

My Follie stuff is about to be hot trash

[sharp quarry]

these dactolysts bro

that wave is so bs

[buoyant inlet]

i feel like there should be a free-draw for follie's shadowgraphs (if there isn't already)

[safe inlet]

Just found out there's an honoria for all the guilty accolade glyphs 😭 Does janus vor still not have an honoria?

[sharp quarry]

they were not kidding about needing to use tauron strikes holy moly

nothing for uriel

[sharp estuary]

If there was, you would need to be solo, unfortunately

[sharp quarry]

damn

how do they expect you to do this solo

[high iris]

Wills and ways

Also its uriel

[toxic elk]

It was in this batch

[sharp quarry]

also like only 10 lyroic bridge is criminal for doing basically a boss rush without the other two resources from the other two boss fights.

Also we should start with some stacks to the initiatives in The guilty

[sharp estuary]

Using Slampotes on the first two proved effective

Hunhullus however...

[sharp quarry]

idk i got the sumdali and im just not gonna touch it again

[sharp estuary]

I do kinda want one of the Glyphs

But I remain loyal to my Lettie Glyph

[random pond]

If possible, could you share the weapon loadout you used to complete this challenge? From the main loadout

[safe inlet]

Yeah gimme a moment but they all have rivens on

[random pond]

np

[safe inlet]

Strun has a +cold +multi -impact riven, evos are 2nd, 1st, 1st, Strun is very good on the flying Dactolyst and the Hunhullus parts you have to destroy to expose it to damage.

Dual Toxocyst has a +cd +cc +punch riven (imo would replace riven, gunfight and element to make ), evos are 2nd, 1st, 1st, Dual Toxocyst is incredible againt Hunhullus.

My favourite weapon(s) have a +cd +as -combo duration riven (imo would drop riven and primed reach for attack speed and crit damage), evos are 2nd, 2nd, 1st, Dual Ichor are very good against the Vanguard and the grounded Dactolyst.

[random pond]

Thank you so much for sharing; I'll give it a try right now. ❤️

[safe inlet]

Np and good luck. Hardest superboss(es) rn imo

I just realised those 3 weapons together are 17 forma for their builds 😭 new players do not use these

[random pond]

😂

[versed rivet]

Wisp done, 4 more to go

[sharp estuary]

What in the hell is that UI?

Phone, I'm guessing

Or Switch (2)?

[versed rivet]

Ipad

[sharp estuary]

Huh

I am shocked

Anyway. I should give it another whack later, but ehhhhh

[versed rivet]

Ehh, u were gonna do wisp anyways, i and beat u to it

[eager sigil]

whats the slampotes build u have?

[versed rivet]

Here

[eager sigil]

ty

[amber mantle]

oh, those are some good changes

[sacred crane]

Holy peak changes

[crystal frigate]

Hecc yeah DE!! W changes

[sharp estuary]

I should try Follie out. Actually

That's what I've been forgetting to do

[safe inlet]

Very good changes, especially the shared loot. This'll make farming a second Follie much nicer as I already have a full set. Her kit looks so fun

[eager sigil]

literally just the walls knock down and damage removed will be so huge

[quartz ravine]

Fair enough My adhd wouldn't let me commit to that many resets 😂

[lucid cave]

guys i just redownloaded for shadowgrapher, does grendel turbis play any music, or does he have any gimmick like gauss does

[sharp estuary]

Unfortunately. I don't think so

[fading summit]

guys, is it planned that one of the sisters occupied nodes is follies hunt?

[sharp estuary]

The Sister and her Hound entering Vesper

[versed rivet]

Ash done

[fast wagon]

I'm trying my hand at soloing The Guilty as Caliban for the new Accolade Glyph, any tips? I can upload my builds if needed

Also I'm pretty sure Guilty Ember Prime cheats lol, even while I'm invis she can just track me with her fireball and just kill me instantly with that fireball with the warning markers

[abstract junco]

Use his augment. Only tip I've got

[versed rivet]

Im getting his next

[fast wagon]

I tried my hand at using his augment, didnt think it worked too well, I'll give it another whirl tho

[eager sigil]

how do you deal with hunhullus' first phase? I'm able to get there (barely) but the choralysts shred me with their homing projectiles
(I'm using wisp, burston, laetum, and sampotes, with Naramon cuz its the only tauron strike I have)

[glass mulch]

are amp skin options disabled for all the amps now? i have a skin on my amp but i dont have the option to change or remove it anymore

[final mantle]

the latest one doesn't work on sirocco but should work on the others

[glass mulch]

i dont have the option to change skins on any of my amps

[final mantle]

on a side note : thanks DE, for listening to feedback, that's why me and others respect you as a studio

[glass mulch]

i feel like im taking crazy pills
i have a skin already and i want to apply the new one @w@
and its not the sirocco

[abstract junco]

The latest amp skin is being worked on to make it available to the Drifter as well

[glass mulch]

wait wot

[abstract junco]

Yes

[glass mulch]

only works on operator?

[abstract junco]

Currently, yes

[glass mulch]

oh brother ._.

thanks, at least i know im not going completely insane

[shell plaza]

Am I the only one who thinks being able to attack Follie to make her retreat is a bit much?

I mean, I like the idea of ​​an unkillable enemy chasing you; it reminds me of Mr. X in Resident Evil 2.
Now it's not fun and stressfull

[abstract junco]

It wasn't stressful before

Or fun really

Just boring

[amber mantle]

it means if she and her copies decide to camp a canvas, you are entirely screwed unless you cheese it with void mode

[final mantle]

tbh I kinda am on the same boat, Akeru, I think it does diminish the impact she has

and also depends on how long her spawn cooldown will be

[amber mantle]

also given how cramped the confines are, she can and will trap you in a room with, again, no counterplay outside of "bullet jump through her aura and hope she doesn't oneshot you"

[worthy charm]

[final mantle]

if it's 5 seconds, well, it's only a brief respite, if it's longer, it's a breathing space

and well, speaking of, they nerfed her dmg by 30 % according to the patch notes, which is fine

[glass mulch]

that looks like the mine turtle from asdfmovie lol

https://tenor.com/view/hello-turtle-gif-7278850

[worthy charm]

Thats exactly what it is

[glass mulch]

:o

[amber mantle]

is there anyone around who owns the original bubonico and can test something for me?

[shell plaza]

I run through her with my void mode wihout risk
My drifter is full builted, she dont really scare me

[worthy charm]

Whats up?

[amber mantle]

i want to know if this behaviour is shared between coda and regular bubonicos or if it's coda only

[amber mantle]

try taking it into simulacrum and spamming abilities? i'm getting a weird sort of 'snapping' of the camera whenever an ability is used while i have the gun out

[worthy charm]

Any frame?

[amber mantle]

any frame, i've been noticng it with thermal sunder (because i'm levelling it in ESO) but from what i can tell it happens with most

or... hmm...

[versed rivet]

Done caliban

[amber mantle]

it looks like it's anything where the camera moves as part of casting

[versed rivet]

@fast wagon ur slow

[eager sigil]

what's everything you're using cuz I'm using your slampotes build and it's not doing a super great job at the vanguard. It's not bad, but it's not great, I still get cascading by the time I reach the 6 at once

[worthy charm]

Ah yep I see it

[versed rivet]

Maybe its bc i slam wayyy faster as a mobile player

[worthy charm]

It like zooms in and out really fast right

[amber mantle]

yeah

[eager sigil]

it does annihalate the dactalysts, but the vanguard is still a struggle

[versed rivet]

It is, but its a solid strategy if you know when to retreat to rolling guard or vazarin sling

[amber mantle]

correction to my earlier theory: it looks like it's any ability where the bubonico disappears for the duration of the cast

[versed rivet]

Heres a quick demo of my slam speed

[eager sigil]

ah, yeah thats slightly faster than what I can do on pc

[woven fiber]

what yall think of the update generally?

[eager sigil]

'slightly' as in I can slam about once every 1-2 seconds

[worthy charm]

I really really like it

[eager sigil]

also are you heavy slamming or regular slamming?

[versed rivet]

Heavy

When heavy slaming sampotes sends out 3 waves instead of one

[eager sigil]

yeah, I've been heavy slamming but the endlag of the slam has been painful

[versed rivet]

You just have to stop caring about if ur waves are gonna hit, just commit to slamming and retreat when necessary

Or to readjust ur angle

[amber mantle]

side note god nokko looks so good w the coda bubo

[eager sigil]

yeah, that's what I do but the rate of my slams is too slow to actually get through the vanguard in a meaningful time

[versed rivet]

As in aesthetics or function?

[versed rivet]

That does look good

[worthy charm]

This update has made so many frames look so much better with all the new cosmetics and stuff

[versed rivet]

But base lavos might be better

[worthy charm]

Gauss' signa has been eveeeeeerrryyywhere

[versed rivet]

Rmb lavos is also a mushroom frame before he put on his doctor suit

[amber mantle]

oh yeah the boyfriends' signas have been getting some good use

i've seen people use them REAL nice on the gemini skins

[worthy charm]

The Arthur one