update-42-the-shadowgrapher

[left otter]

Hi Folks! For all things Shadowgrapher, you can chat here!

[final stone]

first

[orchid hinge]

second

[crimson sable]

follies second ability is gonna be insane/pos

[shut locust]

yall spoiling us so hard in this update im excited

[solar rune]

can someone explain her kit? (I missed the devstream-)

[jolly gale]

i'm sure someone will paint you a picture

[timid herald]

What’s the amp skin?

[scenic spruce]

Follies second looks extremely silly

[solar rune]

I see what you did there.

[quasi plank]

new chat, old zaivos

[small hearth]

Did they talk about Alternate Riftguard Syandana When ؟

[young eagle]

prolly march 25th

[brave marlin]

mai waif is beautiful

[fringe granite]

do we have full patch notes?

[steel bronze]

March 25th is the release date.

[fringe granite]

thats true

[rare cape]

So excited to make silly paintings of my cat

[steel bronze]

How we feel about Follies 2nd? I feel it VERY overpowered, that you can spawn in a death laser, and an rpg out of thin air.

And a life support tower too.

[hybrid citrus]

prolly gonna be nerfed to oblivion lol. hella cool tho

[steel bronze]

Yea

[solar rune]

excuse me???

Huh???

[hybrid citrus]

i love being able to draw my own art too. im no artist but it looks so cool tbh

[steel bronze]

But i just imagined the SP earth defense with follie spawning in the death lasers, and rpgs for everybody.

[steel bronze]

That made me some concerns about, uh.... People...

[hybrid citrus]

im guessing it's gonna end up being a per mass wave usage in the end (once per 3 waves)

[steel bronze]

watch the devstream, its cool, but a bit much at the same time

[hybrid citrus]

the ban hammer exists and DE does NOT joke around with that

[steel bronze]

If Vauban can keep his tesla nervoses, and 2nd down, i dont thunk it will reset/mass wave

[narrow turret]

I missed it mostly but what i saw was cool. I need to watch recaps

[steel bronze]

I had no experience with reporting (thank god), but i hope so, yea.

[hybrid citrus]

from what i heard they have no problem nuking your acc. there's no credibility. you do something bad, no matter your time in game, and you're a goner

[hybrid citrus]

me neither. the community is literally too nice lmao

[slim belfry]

So stoked for this update, Folie looks insanely fun

[dusky glen]

Honestly, I'm not too excited about the Gmodframe

[steel bronze]

when i was a really small tenno, someone gave me xaku prime, because i tought i can spend the promotional 50 plats😭

[quaint oracle]

How do we claim twitch drops?

[cyan holly]

I only watched like 45m, anything I missed?

[hybrid citrus]

lmao. i dont remember my baby tenno times much but i do help smol tennos whenever i can lol

[hybrid citrus]

just hop in game. you should have them in your inbox

[dusky glen]

I'm not all that into the "Dead by Daylite" missions and the purely cosmetic rewards for your mod selection screen

[quaint oracle]

Alright

[ocean yoke]

Who’s ready for all the chaos follie is about to bring 😈

[cyan holly]

Sometimes you have to go into twitch and click redeem

[hybrid citrus]

you can draw icons for your abilities

[steel bronze]

i mean, i am still kinda a baby tenno. MR9, just unlocked SP, and maining the nataruk still.

[cyan holly]

Yeah I saw that and the follie mission then I had to leave

[hybrid citrus]

oh mb. didnt know

[barren sierra]

Mate, I'm LR2 and I still kind of main Nataruk. Crazy good bow at any level.

[hybrid citrus]

ahem- mr26.. i still use nataruk as my main

[steel bronze]

I hit like 4.5m crits in the right circumstances

[hybrid citrus]

its a good bow i tell ya

[steel bronze]

Too good of a weapon.

[shut locust]

nataruk is an incredibly based bow, i still use it from time to time

[wind lily]

i think its really funny that in the last update they stripped down vauban's ability to use his mines freely and then immediately afterwards they release a frame who has an enormous gear wheel ability that does everything

[steel bronze]

I switch between the acceltra, nataruk, and burston incarnon, so

[hybrid citrus]

they buffed them so much wdym?

[steel bronze]

Vauban main here: he needed the buff, and rework.

[barren sierra]

Buffed his mines by giving me a free spot for Pillage eh-yo.

I can't hear the screams of the damned over my Bastille Pillage Orbital Bombs. Is it efficient? Nope! Is it funny? Yep!

[hybrid citrus]

i love vauban. he was my 2nd frame and yea, i never used the tether or speed ramp. im glad they fused it

[hybrid citrus]

i love me dem airstrikes

[void kernel]

Anyone else having problems with the twitch drops? was supposed to be 3 Tau shards but only got one

[steel bronze]

But i switched the third with nourish. I use him completely stationary in defenses, and survival. In the rest, i just spawn down the 2nd randomly.

[fresh stone]

Im so sad they just completely skipped over the adversary weapons😭 I wanna know what the upgrades are🥀

[raw plover]

As a Quanta lover im very excited for the Tenet

[hybrid citrus]

they actually showed them last devstream no? best way to look rn. otherwise still sad tho :(

[vocal lantern]

when does follie come out

[livid mist]

March 25

[vocal lantern]

omg too long

do we have a time when the next prime frames come out im hoping its kullervo

[fresh stone]

Because ghoulsaw....need some serious help and also is my fav weapon in the game😍 and theres 80 bajillion quantas so im excited to see how this one is different. And the bubonico. The glorious bubonico did NOT need an upgrade but I hope it's cool

[fresh stone]

They're announcing it at pax, also it might be styanax

[timid ember]

wonder how broken that one ability of follies is going to be

[barren sierra]

It almost certainly will be Styanax so the 50th Prime will be the 50th Warframe.

[timid ember]

with how big a deal they made out of having 50 warframes, yeah prime 50 has to be styanax

[fossil helm]

when the new update finna be out

[timid ember]

march 25

[fossil helm]

what

that late?!?!

[timid ember]

yeah thats when shadowgraphers coming out i believe

[abstract junco]

Not "late", it gives the devs more time to cook

[drifting swift]

Just saw the devstream, uh.

[barren sierra]

Big code build, needs time to cook so we don't get another buggy launch.

[drifting swift]

Calling it now, there is going to be a lot of... Anatomy in Follie's custom icons.

[barren sierra]

Well, a less buggy launch. Bugframe is eternal.

[livid mist]

Her second? The one with all the spawnable objects? Oh yeah, definitely gonna have some broken interactions... Heck, one even showed up on the dev stream between the Lohk Hand (Infinite ammo & +50% RoF) and the Thermian RPG

[abstract junco]

Yeah

[drifting swift]

I'm not really sure what the devs expected, this is a nice tool in theory but it...

It's an online game

[abstract junco]

No one wants a half-baked release

[old field]

i cant wait to put follies anims on all of my frames

[drifting swift]

There is going to be an utter flood of inappropriate artwork

[barren sierra]

There's a TOS opt-in for using it and a report feature, as well as a setting to just not see it at all.

[drifting swift]

Mm.

[abstract junco]

I will definitely be using the not seeing it option

[drifting swift]

I'm still at least somewhat cynical because way too many people on some level or another view online games as purely digital without actual people involved. Even if they know that on paper, it's still often treated as a totally consequence free playground.

I guess we'll have to see.

[abstract junco]

Only by total idiots

[drifting swift]

Far too many of those @_@

Or at least I've had the misfortune of my experiences skewing that way.

[barren sierra]

I expect we'll get an influx of "WHY WAS I BANNED??!?" posts and then not much else.

[drifting swift]

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[stiff phoenix]

March 25!!!!!!

[timid ember]

could see them stripping the ability to use that feature from people who abuse it for that stuff, and reset their icons to a defualt one

so not a full ban but one from using that tool

[drifting swift]

I guess I'm just thinking of stuff like. Crude Ancient Roman graffiti and its similarities to some modern graffiti.

It's a biiiiiiig trend.

[barren sierra]

They said it'll be bannable.

[drifting swift]

Huh

[hybrid citrus]

DE does not play around.

[drifting swift]

Evidently not.

[tight pollen]

amongus everywhere

[drifting swift]

Heh. If only.

I guess I'm thinking of stuff like Spore's custom creatures too?

[white jackal]

Wait so what’s bannable now?

[hybrid citrus]

warframe community is honestly the sweetest of them all. i have a hard time believing they'd do something like this honestly

[timid ember]

the custom art tool thats coming with follie for her 2

[tight pollen]

The players are being given creative freedom with one of follie's abilities

And you can guess what that means

[white jackal]

Ah so I take it there is some art that is uh… not good

[drifting swift]

It's... More my predictions/worries

But also I'm kinda cynical as mentioned.

[white jackal]

I can’t wait to recreate the tf2 coconut

[drifting swift]

snrk

[timid ember]

theres expectations of it, thats for sure

[drifting swift]

Oh man that thing.

[hybrid citrus]

obviously there will be some. there always will be. but i dont think we'll ever see any of that in our lobbies. stuf's gonna be RARE

[drifting swift]

nodnods

[tight pollen]

crashes the game when the associated object gets destroyed/despawned

[white jackal]

Yup. So I can’t be banned

[drifting swift]

Secret ability unlocked: Alt + F4

[white jackal]

So what leaks did we get?

[drifting swift]

(I'm not really sure how Valve wound up making TF2 reliant on a single image of a coconut but here we are.)

[gusty valve]

what is the pax thing?

[hybrid citrus]

lowkey never had so much trust in a community. i remember the red update text telling ppl to bark and instead of ppl saying "no ew" or something in regional, everyone just did as told lmao

[tardy nova]

The 25th... still a month away...

[hybrid citrus]

you rlly think such obedient players would go against DE's wishes?

[mellow trail]

I saw people saying styanx prime in the stream, can I get some clarification? did they announce?

[white jackal]

It was an old anti cheat method. Made sure the game wasn’t modified

[livid mist]

I'm more curious about how the ability itself scales, like the Explosive Barrel scaling with Strength and Range...

[tight pollen]

nothing official its just heavy speculation

[white jackal]

People who didn’t know exactly what they were doing would think it was from a mod an delete it. Which would lock them out

[timid ember]

not yet, next dev stream i think we'll get something related

based on what they did say

[hybrid citrus]

oh btw: thats not even factual lmao. its just a png used for cofee beans by one emote for demoman.. dont question why its a coconut. very funny meme tho

[mellow trail]

I know he is up next, but the skim we saw was fire

[livid mist]

Likely, but Confirmation is coming at the PAX Devstream

[gusty valve]

pax devstream when?

[timid ember]

march 28 i think?

[drifting swift]

Huh, TIL

[white jackal]

Proto nidus when?

[light cobalt]

thoughts on Follie's alt helmet?

[tepid kelp]

watched a playback of the stream this frame may be obscene if built proper

[abstract junco]

Most frames are

[timid ember]

i think follies going to be another level of obscene

[light cobalt]

changed my mind a lil on how hard she's gonna be to color and fashion

[hybrid citrus]

she's quite literally a cake lmao

[abstract junco]

"Development build, subject to change"

Best not to take anything seen related to Follie as guaranteed

[rose geyser]

Follie looks...interesting? Dont know untill I actually test out her abilities myself

[livid mist]

Also, Gauss's Deluxe skin having the song "Redline" being played while having the Redline ability active is an amazing touch

[steel bronze]

in a situation where really matters, until then, there will be speculations only.

[light cobalt]

i will say she feels more ink clown than ink artist tbh

her abilities i mean

[rose geyser]

Kinda yea.

[light cobalt]

Mmmmm....cak

[rose geyser]

I was kinda hoping she'd learn a bit more on the Ink side and not artistic

[rose geyser]

Exactly what I thought of her like

Also...Ballons?

[dreamy orchid]

hopefully the survival changes also apply to conjunction survival

[light cobalt]

she's supposed to be refrencing harlequinns i think

yk sad clown

i dont get her 3 can someone explain it

[rose geyser]

I have a feeling there's going to be an Augment for her 4th where if you recast it, it drops everyone so you don't have to shoot each ballon...

[white jackal]

What is follies helminth? Do we know?

[abstract junco]

No

[light cobalt]

this makes me think of that one gravity powers girl from some anime i cant remember where she does exactly that but more graphic

[light cobalt]

most likely 1

[livid mist]

Nope, but I'm expectng Follies Helminth ability to be her first

[fringe night]

her 3 gives damage reduction. Each kill grows the clone of her? which gives you more damage reduction. Hope this helps <3

[light cobalt]

ohhhh

i thought it would spread her ink status thing like on her gun

but that makes sense too

[fringe night]

nope, just a lovely survivability tool

[white jackal]

Hmm so we get to teleport around and have I frames

That’s gonna be pretty good

[fringe night]

I cant wait to see if her two stays or not

that seemed so fun to use

[rose geyser]

I hope she has good armor

[white jackal]

Hmm interesting

[light cobalt]

i hope they dont change her 2

maybe style it after her since some of these are pretty wonky outside of their natural habitats

like the zariman hand thingy or THE MASSIVE DEFENSE TARGET

[livid mist]

Dont think she'll need armor having 2 separate decoys in her kit (Decoy Defense objective in her 2nd along with her 3rd)

[light cobalt]

also i frame tp

she's very heavy survival

[rose geyser]

I hope she dose Id love to run Arcane persistent on her

[light cobalt]

im worried about her 4 doing nothing on CC immune enemies and bosses

[rose geyser]

Yea like the 60 life steal examis enemies.

[light cobalt]

ik not every frame is built for everything but maybe make them explode damage if you cant drop down kill them?

[light cobalt]

yk like the balloon spins around the enemy and you shoot it to make it explode

also i did not expect her weapon to be an instakill conditional rifle

they turned oraxia into a gun

[crimson sable]

like oraxia, but iwth less orbs

[livid mist]

Yeah, I'm very curious as to how her rifle is gonna perform

[barren sierra]

She had pretty good Health and Shields in the Devstream as well as build in damage reduction from an Ability, I imagine she'll have armour as a dump stat.

[white jackal]

I wonder if the helminth I frames scale with duration

[amber mantle]

jesus. 32 minutes for the tickets to sell out

[white jackal]

Could turn it into some insane builds

[eager sigil]

not even, I checked at 4:18 and they were sold out then, I think they may have only made it official now? That, or I'm completely wrong in the first place lol

[final mantle]

the change to eximus ice is very interesting tbh

and the tennocon is bigger than the blizzcon at this point

[white jackal]

Hmm so those survival changes… how many can you get? Or is it limited

[final mantle]

which is amazing

from my understanding, you get one per 5 minute just like EDA ETA?

[white jackal]

Cause this means that we now only have 1 single endurance mission that suits nidus kit

[cyan holly]

I missed what follie's 3 and 4 do

Please have survivability

[abstract junco]

Her 3 does

However everything they showed is still subject to change

[barren sierra]

Her 3 is damage reduction up to 95%.

[rotund hill]

I hope her 2 has default drawings as well, don't wanna get confused by what all my bad drawings mean lol

[cyan holly]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-toast-salute-here's-to-you-heres-to-you-gif-3182433711752800466

[fading briar]

Does anyone have a picture of Follie's alt helm?

[barren sierra]

Stole this from #warframe-general.

[fading briar]

That looks so much better than the fly helmet tysm

[cobalt sparrow]

tbh i dont hate her body or anything but i really hated the fly helmet lmao

[fading briar]

I feel like they tried to go for a pompom hairstyle (I think that's what it's called but Idk the name for it) but it just came out looking like a blowfly's head

[white jackal]

So DE is making another attempt at end game I see

I can’t wait trivialize it with my immortal nidus setup

[cyan holly]

I missed the last part of the dev stream, care to explain pls?

[white jackal]

No real info. Just a high level node

Separate match making

[cyan holly]

So a Steeler steel path?

[white jackal]

Reb said it’s very hard

[white jackal]

No idea. You have to find it.

So it’s not a normal unlock

[cyan holly]

Ooo nice

I mean from what you're telling me it does look like sp 2.0

[white jackal]

Well it’s a single mission.

[cyan holly]

My guess is that it's level 500+

[white jackal]

Just 1

[cyan holly]

Bummer

[white jackal]

Nah can’t be that. We already have level 475

It’s gonna have something else

[cyan holly]

Level 1k base?

Idk

[white jackal]

And the higher the level the harder my nidus is to kill

So I hope it’s not just that

[cyan holly]

Yeah no matter the level revenant just farms aura

[white jackal]

Eh but rev still has to get kills for energy.

[cyan holly]

Zenurik

[white jackal]

My nidus doesn’t need anything. I can stand there. Forever. I press 1 button. That’s it. I can play forever with a single finger

[subtle monolith]

The devstream showed level i think 250-280 roughly

But obviously that might not be the final version

[white jackal]

Well that’s kinda weak

Really hope they bring something a little bit harden then that

[half forge]

The mission art makes it look like you fight all bosses at once or In the same mission

[fading briar]

is there a legit 9999 enemy level or is that just clickbait??

[proven dew]

that's level cap

[white jackal]

It’s technically 10003 but that’s eximus enemies

[jolly apex]

I hope follie can summon duplicates of some things with her 2. Doesn't have to be all of the items, but I want to place barrels everywhere like traps.

[rocky canyon]

Follie is becoming a better version of mirage and loki

[fading briar]

Follie summons mini railjacks

[amber mantle]

that's the level cap of the game and it's only really feasible to reach either in the circuit or in void cascade

[barren sierra]

You know, the Gauss and Grendel Signas being masks means one big thing to me.

Protoframe battlemasks.

[amber mantle]

think arthur would look good with the gauss one depending on how it's angled against the head

grendel's might be a bit more difficult to use because it seems fairly fitted to his head

[barren sierra]

If it's how the Lavos one is oriented, it should work great for them. The Lavos one aligns right on the Protoframe's eyes.

[frosty spade]

And should look good on the drifter/operator

[tacit marsh]

What are tbe foil mods

[frosty spade]

Just fancy-graphic mods.

Does not affect gameplay in the slightest.

You can "convert" a mod to it via a resource (that is allegedly easy to farm) from the new game mode.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/176165482536239104/1477047318321565799/ModArt.gif

[tardy nova]

I needs her...

[tardy nova]

If it's like farming Stock for the archon mods, a new market is opening

[coarse radish]

So if tennocon tickets have been sold does that mean digital pack is coming out soon?

[frosty spade]

Last year it was about a month between normal tickets being available and normal tickets being available, so probably still the same.

iirc, the tickets last year also sold out quick

So end of March is likely.
Maybe on Shadowgrapher's drop.

[rocky topaz]

her alt helmet is so much better
it's almost required to get 😭

[barren sierra]

Fortunately we'll be about due for a new Nightwave just after she comes out and it'll be available there.

[timid ember]

sounds like i need to get grinding

[barren sierra]

My Nightwave guess is a feeling, I will say.

Dreams of the Dead started in November, Nightwave seasons tend to last roughly five to seven months, March 25th is in that timeframe.

[final mantle]

I hope that if the system of foil mods is a success, they will go up to and include prime mods with special foil effect for those, if possible

that may be asking for much, but personally I love this kind of detail, proving once again that Warframe is a small miracle of this day and age

in the sense that creatively, DE rarely misses

really looking forward to using those, hoping that all mods get covered !

[graceful holly]

tell me this isn't follies 4 👁️ 👄 👁️

https://youtube.com/shorts/Jj-YEaUr1LQ?si=Cv5sxd04fm2li_RI

[alpine path]

I LOVE the item/prop summoning ability

[graceful holly]

watching all the mobs just float up simultaneously during the devstream had me on the floor 😭

[gray beacon]

I hope we get more at some point

That’s going to be funny though

[worthy charm]

Grendel and gauss having the first sound effect changes on a warframe is cinema

[pliant hinge]

I wasn't able to watch the devstream (It was on degen hours in my timezone). Did they give out a full list of the new adversary weapons? Or did they just announce that we're getting them?

[worthy charm]

What i love the most is that in an era where AI is so prevalent DE want more artists to do the foil mods

[final mantle]

they wouldn't hit as hard if you made it with AI tbh

[worthy charm]

Tenet Quanta
Kuva ghoulsaw
Coda Bubonico

We got to see ghoulsaw and bubonico last devstream and we saw the Quanta this devstream

[final mantle]

and as I learned, you sometimes, in some situations, spend more time correcting AI mistakes than you benefit from it

[pliant hinge]

Aww I was hoping for a Tenet Amprex.

But I'm happy for those who were waiting for adversary versions of those weapons.

[final mantle]

on the topic of so called "generative" AI, even if it is beautiful at times.... the time you spent typing hundreds of prompts would have been better used asking an artist to well, do the thing you required

I am curious bout the kuva ghoulsaw tbh, but I haven't farmed liches enough, so far

[worthy charm]

I loved the old peace update but my god

Shadowgrapher is defo taking the number 1 spot

Out of any update in the games history so far

Back to back Ws constantly

[final mantle]

which is quite the comeback, if you consider just the awful trilogy of liches/sisters 1.0 followed by railjack and one third final update that totally shatter the trust players had in DE

but I think now DE has found its footing and I'm glad to be part of the journey now, instead of all the way

the thing I'd like them to do more, is to fix and improve their older systems more frequently, but it's already a small miracle that they do what they do with their game

so many games, some I have played, make an update, and just leave the system to rot forever

[worthy charm]

Old blood, empyrean and the scarlet spear event was a very rough time to be playing the game back then but man have they improved massively since those days

[final mantle]

yes, I must admit I have just seen 2 videos summing up that era

but one thing, in fact two things I want to see coming back, is an huh, sentient invasion orphix like event

and well, eventually raids but raids is probably such a massive thing to tackle that I don't expect them to come back to it this year

can't recall the name of the actual sentient we fought in this event, corvix?

or an actual railjack update, even if I don't hate that gamemode it could still be iterated upon in my opinion

[pliant hinge]

I heard they're doing some changes to the "Awakening". What are they planning?

[final mantle]

different skybox iirc

[worthy charm]

Lighting changes

[sly wharf]

What are the atragraph customizations?

[pliant hinge]

It changes the art on some of the mods into a color foil style.

[acoustic python]

I have read the power descriptions of the new frame and how theres a lot of decoys and such.

Allow me to say;

Oh my GOD DE, please learn from octavias struggles. Please.

Warframes who have kits dependant on affecting enemy AI traditionally struggle to get value when there are usually three other tenno present prepares to murder anyhting they see in 0.3 seconds, causing the ai manip to do nothing as the enemy doesnt exist long enough for much to happen.

Or enemies will just shoot warframes over decoys, as also happens with octavia...

[final mantle]

she will always struggle as more overguard enemies are thrown at her sadly

[acoustic python]

Make the mechanic actually reliable around other players, or consign her the solo-only player sin bin.

(Its sad to have to ask for a multi-player focused game to please have new content work in multi-player, but here we are)

Other then that obvious, historically validated glaring issue, im willing to wait to see more.

[final mantle]

the decoys can at least pull in the ones with overguard, at least it should
as for the cc parts of her kit...

[acoustic python]

Overguard is a thorny issue for most control frames, but decoys and ai manip are a struggle even in starchart

Like, look at revenant

[final mantle]

tbh I do not play revenant enough to notice issues

[acoustic python]

Does he get use? Yeah, he tanks in a way that scales great

Does his power set get used? Absolutely cleming not lmao

His 1 makes enemies into thralls and his 3 does big damage to thralls only

But nobody uses it because it doesnt work in multiplier

Because anyone can shoot his thralls, and so they have a lifespan of approximately 0.5 seconds around other players

Its like if nekros shadows didnt have a shader effect and could be teamkilled

You might see revs in high level play, but you'll not see them bothering to use thralls unless theyre in one corner of the map with no one around, 'cause its an ability that just doesnt work in a pub squad.

Same concern here.

Same with octavias mallet.

Speaking of Nekros shadows

This is an ancient, lost warframe mechanic that probably should be turned up a notch.

Shadows have elevated Threat, meaning enemies will prioritize targeting them first. That should be added to all the 'powers that depend on enemies shooting at them', with just a hint of titanias lantern, "forcefully turning the ai off and on again when it comes into radius", to ensure it targets the decoy as soon as they get close enough.

They can retarget after if they leave the range or if allies do substantial damage to them

But a warframe with powers that dont work if theres allied splash damage... not so much.

that is, powers that require enemies to shoot them as their main function, like Mallet or Shadowgraph's defense cryopod, and not just things like Rev's thralls where if the enemy shoots them, that's only half it's job.

[rustic walrus]

So guys I may be scared of going to the paint dimension but I am a certified clown lover, what do I do

[lean harness]

Doesn't look like it will be possible to sketchbook this into a glyph with follie- but it can be tried .. zoom all the lines in so small the gradient shading can be replicatex

[safe torrent]

I know that I am getting too carried away with this, but regarding Follie's Shadowgraph customization: it'd be cool if we could get a "local-only" import feature for the painting icons. It would let us use personal .png photos stored locally on our machines as a HUD icon/orbiter glyph that only we can see (and would otherwise show as a default - or a different in game glyph of your choosing, to everyone else).

I know Warframe is completely different, but The Sims 4 successfully uses a local "custom content" folder for things like artwork. They even have a streamer mode that hides all custom art to prevent accidental TOS issues. A similar toggle in Warframe would solve the "brand safety" risk for creators and DE.

I have an IRL photo with Rebecca, Megan, Dani, and Zach, and it'd be really nice if I could have them as displays in my orbiter or in my Follie sketchbook! This avoids moderation issues while allowing for high-fidelity sentiments.

I know this wouldn't work cross save, and I see why it's a stretch, but it'd be an amazing way to personalize our experience. If this is too much to ask, maybe just captura art as a glyph or display (I understand I'd have to be limited slots, and more compressed) - I'd be happy to pay more platinum for the slots to offset any storage costs.

[lean harness]

That's only convenient for pc and android

But it'd be cool

Like masking those images with transparent background passing files yourself?

Either way this will be laboured into a follie sketchbook glyph before I move to any other hill to sacrifice my life on xd

The Rorschach, formally known as "Thermian rpg".

[safe torrent]

I mean like it'd be a full display glyph photo - not a "mask/sticker/transparent"

[lean harness]

Yeah- that's what I mean- those internal image elements are your responsibility if you wish to use them to confine the full proportions to specific outlines, or simplify it by removing the background from the people so that it has a flat background it looks 3D against... PNG file formats store transparency data.

For example with the clan glyphs, they are solely the content of the logo and it's negative space confined to itself, but the format is the canvas space this background/non-background is bordered in by, not talking about the image itself being transparent, other opacity levels or a mask through which other colour organisations or 3D space shines out through.

Non- PC or Android users are unable to have any kind of library to attach files at all/ with the proper detail, through.

Unless this were an account management WF website thing

[white jackal]

I just hope the I frames in her teleport are duration based so I c a use it on nidus to be immune to dmg for like 15 solid seconds

[lean harness]

I wonder if it will feel familiar to a wisp player

DE im going to make THIS a sketchbook gear wheel logo even if it takes 12 hours, and the stamps available is minimised, you cannot hold the hyperfixation back 😼

The last thing a random grineer sees is this goofy snake tongue reaching for an eyeball nail.

Oh got to put the end of the finger in there too

[winter bloom]

Watching devstream cuz I was busy today....Follie is art frame!

[amber mantle]

i was going to start shuffling my syndicates around to try and farm all the syndicate stuff but i'm glad i hadn't properly started on that yet with the honorias being announced lmao

[thick salmon]

Nah how is Follie gonna be anything but absolutely busted

[finite mist]

Yep she is going to be broken as hell!

[rain pendant]

something about new honorias? i missed the 2 AM local stream 😔

[winter bloom]

I'm glad I've been on hiatus, I have a lot to do!

I can't wait for Follie, she's such a WOMAN

She's all woman and all artist

I can't wait to see her draw grineer like one of those French ladies ;3

Any artist reading this, please make that happen with Grendel

[winter bloom]

They have to nerf her 2nd ability for sure. It could be very disruptive to a squad

Like I'm all for the funny haha memes but her 2nd ability is way too OP that it makes EVERY FRAME useless in comparison if we can just spawn everything

I personally think they should limit to what we can "sketch" in terms of items in the game. The explosive barrel isn't bad but like I don't agree with drawing up a disruption key or infinite ammo.

We can keep the oxygen though, that has potential to make follie somewhat supportive in survival missions

I also think it would be cool if Follie could draw up enemies like Nekros's Thrall's

But not EVERY enemy, just ones that are equally available to Nekros. We don't want her drawing up Jordas Golem or something

[rain pendant]

drawing up the hunhullus rn boss

so god help me we're making perita into a gundam fight

[abstract junco]

Honestly the life support bit is already pointless given that a full squad literally never needs the capsules

[winter bloom]

Lmao can you imagine if she could draw up Stalker or his adversaries? Or even draw up liches?

[winter bloom]

Well that's true, it's still useful and it doesn't disrupt the squad so no harm done if she can do that

I like the feature so I agree it can exist

[abstract junco]

It'd only be useful if she's soloing a survival mission, so in that respect it can stay

[winter bloom]

Her 3rd ability with the big lady, I love that she can have damage reduction with a clone but I am concerned with just how big she can get

If she gets too big, it can be a bit distracting and kind of "in the way" of the map

Someone can use that to grief too if they pull it off

[abstract junco]

That would definitely be a problem

[winter bloom]

I hope DE is reading this lmao so they consider these things before they have forum after forum post complaining

Oh btw, the teleport? I believe that's her 4th? SUPER useful in capture missions or missions where we have to protect a moving target

I can't wait to use her for that, she is such a good mix of support and offense

[abstract junco]

Given how the previews all had the "Development build, subject to change" disclaimer across the top, it's safe to say that a good bit of what was shown regarding her isn't set in stone

[winter bloom]

Oh ofc, I just hope they consider things like I said about Nekros. How if Nekros can raise it? She can draw it. The limit on that should be considered

Which if she can do that, she would be equally as good as Nekros in SP Survival

And that will drive player use of her because a lot of SP farmers use Nekros or Khora

[abstract junco]

Very true, it'd be a major issue if she could conjure up an Apex H-09 Tank, or Janus Vor

[abstract junco]

Not necessarily, considering she's not a farming frame

[winter bloom]

Get into a mission and someone spawns Monologue Vor or a Thumper

[winter bloom]

In terms of buff, yea, she has no drop rate buff. But I'm saying in terms of combat. People still use baruuk cuz he has no other use otherwise so she would fall in the "I wanna do it to do it" category

[abstract junco]

And there will absolutely have to be strict limitations on her 2nd ability to be allowed in PvP

[winter bloom]

Also, Nekros's drop rate is due to a mod....they could do that with her 👀

It could be a reference to how in art, we duplicate layers or something

[abstract junco]

Unlikely, I don't know if they're making ability augment mods anymore

[winter bloom]

The augment could be something around the lines of "Follie doubles drop rate based on the already set percentage of resource you're farming" or whatever DE decides, I'm just spit balling

[abstract junco]

It's not that they couldn't, so much as they're not likely to

[winter bloom]

Or or she can duplicate! So said thing drops and you get a chance percentage of getting a 2nd one! But only a limit of 2

Which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice /J

[final mantle]

I am a neo tenno and i was surprised to learn that cyte, temple, uriel and now I would assume follie do not get augment mods

either they are working on them, which would be amazing and long overdue, but I have little hopes for that

or they deem the latest warframes powerful enough so they don't need them

[abstract junco]

Again, they're not likely to do anything like that

[winter bloom]

Probably this, but I like to have hope because they haven't explicitly closed the door

[abstract junco]

I think the ability augments that exist were specifically made to bring their respective frames up to the same power level as the newer frames that don't have any

[winter bloom]

Poor Loki still sitting in the corner crying

[abstract junco]

Loki is like Limbo, useless for basically everything

One thing I've noticed is that frames without damaging abilities tend to be the least desirable

[winter bloom]

The fact I forgot limbo says so much

Poor Limbo, the funniest frame forever forgotten

[winter bloom]

You say that and yet people don't use Baruuk because he can't exist in a squad

He becomes useless if he can't hit anything

And the poor guy doesn't disrupt squads so they can't change him, but also, it's the rest of the frames that disrupt HIM and they aren't going to accommodate Baruuk by nerfing all 63 others

[abstract junco]

Just... rework Baruuk

[winter bloom]

So he's a solo play frame, and even if he is solo, he does so much damage that he just wipes the map

[winter bloom]

Nooooooo the people who love Baruuk love the way he plays as is. It's not the kit or the damage he does, it's the fact he can't hit anything when everyone else kills everything

[abstract junco]

Still better than Loki and Limbo

[winter bloom]

Like for example, Gara? You can make her wipe maps by sitting in one place. This is proven with her range at max

Baruuk sitting there with Gara, can't do anything

Baruuk can't exist with Khora either, Khora wipes maps too

He can't exist with Gauss, Gauss speeds everything and wipes with Thermal

[abstract junco]

Most viable frames can wipe maps

[winter bloom]

Exactly, that's why Baruuk can't be in a squad

Because HE needs to hit enemies to be played

[final mantle]

augments is a very complex topic

[winter bloom]

And reworking him won't work because there's nothing wrong with him, it's everyone else wiping the floor that makes him unplayable

Poor Baruuk is shafted into a solo play frame because of it

[final mantle]

I barely dived into it, and well, to me coolkid(the youtuber) pretty much summed it well, it's not like, a one and done one time fix

I want to hope that DE hasn't forgotten them, and that one day an actual, general pass for all augments will be made

and either give all frames that need it an augment effect that is mandatory as part of their base kit

or if not make it eventually an 11th special slot

but in short, yeah if DE works on that I would surely be interested in following what they have to say about those

[abstract junco]

Doubtful, they're only likely to make more augments once there's a large enough power gap between new and existing frames

[final mantle]

should all augments be utility/changing how the power works and be just that, an alternative, or an actual power spike?

that's already an interesting question, and I hope some people in the studio do discuss this

but to me, the power gap you speak of kinda exists because of the 'that new class/frame must be op or people won't bother' mentality that is in many games

[abstract junco]

Usually the augments provide a mix of utility and power

[final mantle]

but as I come to respect DE for what they do, I have hope they do really engage in a global pass for augments

on top of retouches as they call it, on frames that need it
Loki should be on top of the pile

[abstract junco]

Loki used to be op, but got nerfed into the dirt

[final mantle]

that's an example that sprung into my mind spontaneously

it's not that he entirely sucks, but it's one of the very few frames I was like 'meh, you're not going in my pantheon my guy' kind of vibes

[abstract junco]

Definitely

[final mantle]

wasn't too fond of Ash either but he didn't have the Loki syndrome for me

[abstract junco]

Ash is pretty fun, unlike Loki

[final mantle]

and what can I say about Equinox that hasn't already been said

I think Ash stood the test of time, Loki did not

and tbh with you I had no idea DE even did nerfs, outside of pvp ones

[abstract junco]

Ash can at least wipe a room with his 4th ability, Loki can honestly only barely wipe his own ass

[final mantle]

you made me laugh irl with that one

also the loki augment that makes you share dmg with your clone is.... out of another WF era it seems

[abstract junco]

Yeah, it is

[final mantle]

come to think of it it's actually incredibly dangerous if you use that one in an ETA/EDA

[abstract junco]

Yup, among other things

Fortunately, his decoy has other augments to use

Such as one that turns an enemy into the decoy

Which could be useful on a Techrot Babau

Those things have stupid high hp

So why not make your enemies help you kill it, lol

[amber mantle]

i don't think anyone actually answered you so: they're adding 44 new honorias in the shadowgrapher, including one for each of the main syndicates

[warm falcon]

Follie will become my new favorite

[rain pendant]

thank you!

[cosmic echo]

KUVA GHOULSAWW

I’m really sad we didn’t get to see it in the dev stream

I’ve been itching for anything on it

Stats, Special abilities, anything

[hasty junco]

how hard iwll it be to get the ink lady

im guessing like

6 hours of gridning after the story

idk i didnt watch the stream

[bitter latch]

buff loki

[hasty junco]

buff umbra

[bitter latch]

no loki

[hasty junco]

wait

i have an idea

why not both

[bitter latch]

nerf both?

[hasty junco]

remove loki and umbra

only 1 excalibur allowed and its the original

i need prime excalibur

[abstract junco]

Umbra's better than Excalibur Prime anyway

[final mantle]

yep, pretty much this; and Umbra at least gave us a pretty interesting story and quest, at least for me

and to be very honest, as a neo Tenno, having studied WF's history a tiny bit, I think Excal prime should remain exclusive, I don't want anyone who wasn't there in 2013, aka a true believer, to get it

I am not a fan of excalibur, nor do I think he's an SSS tier frame, but Excal prime should remain exclusive, and rare

and side note : I doubt DE will budge, on that one

but deleting frames, just kek

[dreamy laurel]

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxSK5x06bmqIbqYvJCWHKRDRclpscK0owr?si=MdCtQoFIfr2_br2q

fair point, they didn’t have to nerf some of its stats

[ember juniper]

What do you think Follie's subsumable ability

[timid ember]

probably her 1 or 3, i think her 2 is too powerful to be a subsume, and i dont think any warframe has their 4 as their subsumable

[stable cosmos]

it could be her 4th tho

they might just switch her 2nd and 4th at this point 😭

[timid ember]

yeah, thats true, still in development

[gusty cedar]

Haven't seen the full stream yet, are there any specifics on what grinds are being changed yet?

[stable cosmos]

also the first would be nerf heavily if it was a subsume since the iframe it gives last like 3-5 seconds 💔

[worthy charm]

They listed Quite a lot of them.
Some of them include the vandals from ESO

(Thank god)

[gusty cedar]

Eso change is generational

Ive been putting those off for so long

[worthy charm]

The ones they mentioned were
Equinox, Khora, Nidus, Harrow, Wolf Sledge, Sporothrix, Arum Spinosa, Braton Vandal, Lato Vandal

You bet chat immediately went "CITRINE???"

[gusty cedar]

Will there ever be a citrine change?

[gusty cedar]

LMAOOO clocked me

[worthy charm]

Citrine could possibly be there when the update drops

Cause she is notorious for having the most boring grind

[gusty cedar]

Yeah ive done probably 15-20 hours of her mirror defence and genuinly didnt get a single drop, and don't have enough of the shards to buy her parts and then craft her ive been so unlucky

Also 100 FORMA LIMBO??????

[gusty cedar]

I love limbo, but why

[stable cosmos]

the drop rate change?

[mild ore]

Actually

i rewatched it and never heard harrow

The ones megan listed off were uh
Nidus, Khora, Equinox, Ivara, Wolf Sledge, Korrudo, Acceltra, Akarius, Arum Spinosa, Sporothrix, Braton Vandal, Lato Vandal

Obviously

would really want harrow as part of that list too

(and citrine lol)

[worthy charm]

Yeah i took it off reddit cause I'm not going to go through the devstream again

[abstract junco]

Equinox honestly is the most in need based on that list, because of how goddamn many times you have to kill Tyl Regor (which is a bit tedious of a fight) to get all 6 component blueprints and both aspect blueprints is horrendous, and it only gets worse if your luck is bad

I didn't have much trouble with Ivara or Harrow

And personally I find Citrine to be more on par with Voruna as far as farms go

[crimson glen]

<@&778745217037238293>

[quaint valve]

I hope caliban and gyre are included in it as well based on what I’ve heard about their grinds

And sevagoth

[mild ore]

i think caliban deserves it yeah but at the same time the prime is alr here

Gyre… ehhhhh

She’s fine

gyre softlock is like

negligible in the context that if you aren’t dedicated to farming her right now now

You can just farm her over time and pick when bounties are advantageous

[rose geyser]

Im excited for Follie to come out. Just hope she already has high armor so I can slap on arcane persistence and hop around like a meth infused grasshopper

[quaint valve]

Only thing I’m iffy on is the forced operator mode when you grab the paint bucket/paintbrush thing for the follie’s hunt mode

[river hedge]

Shadowgrapher is gonna be peak

[primal kestrel]

When is the March Pax Devstream?

[slate tinsel]

The 25th

[rocky canyon]

Will the suggestions at the April thing for the update after shadow only be listened to from those who attend in person?

[lofty furnace]

Im surprised Follie isnt getting an iconic tome.

Since she has such a unique animation for it

We need more tomes anyways

[barren sierra]

They said they'd be pulling from Twitch chat too.

[rocky canyon]

I pray they’ll hear us and chat will be somewhat calm enough for ideas to come through.
Maybe we could get a thread for ideas to share

[barren sierra]

I imagine it'll be done by poll vote.

[zinc sluice]

I thought Follie going to be the one to release the rest of the Warframe Prex Cards.

[austere moss]

i think its them wanting to make sure tome animations to newer frames are required since the grimore’s release

[upbeat kelp]

what they changing

[hollow terrace]

I feel like they're gonna give follie a meter which charges with each enemy killed while covered in ink, and you'd use ink instead of energy to use sketchbook.

[final mantle]

that also mean you have to manage your ink "tank" on top of energy or does ink replace energy like Hyldrin?

ah okay I can't read, I think I got it

[abstract junco]

Sounds a lot like Sevagoth's Death Well

[final mantle]

but to me follie has really grabbed that splatoon energy

Pablo acknowledging it even, during stream

[timid herald]

This is the new amp skin

[final mantle]

looks good to me, I didn't even know amp had skins

[abstract junco]

Amp Prime? It's incredibly difficult to tell what the heck I'm looking at, is there a better picture?

[final mantle]

I suspect it's a skin, an amp prime would be incredibly out of the blue

[abstract junco]

Well it'd be a prime skin for the amp

[final mantle]

aaah, okay

cause in my head i was like, huh, sirocco prime?

[abstract junco]

Sirocco is a skin for the Operator, unlike on the Drifter

Although, regardless of what amp you have equipped on your Drifter, it'll always look like the Sirocco

Hopefully this skin will have a Drifter variant

[final mantle]

it would honestly be amazing if so, I have nothing against rocco, it looks good, but a skin for it, yes please DE

but since they didn't announce this, I suspect it's a slip, and it's coming in a future update? otherwise I think it would have made it in the devstream

[abstract junco]

I think there was mention of an amp skin in a previous stream

This is probably a sneak peek at what it looks like

[flint tangle]

i saw that they are Gonna change the grind for some wepon's in the New update, does anyone have a list?

[final mantle]

I recall that they said that base 3 warframes will have 24 hour craft time, but I don't recall what they said about weapons sadly

[abstract junco]

Idk about just the base 3 starter frames, what I heard was all frames were getting the craft times reduced

[left aurora]

imma brew something up wat to draw…

[final mantle]

huh I will put the * on that one Zav, I am certain I heard them saying they're reducing the craft time for base frames, but not the rest

it would be amazing, and long overdue, but I doubt they will pull that trigger

[rocky canyon]

Follie but looking like squidward. Her primary helmet makes me think that especially since no one liked it

[inner seal]

Who’s the next heirloom skin?

[amber mantle]

they haven't announced one

[inner seal]

Huh.

[amber mantle]

?

[inner seal]

I was just curious about who the next heirloom would be, and thought the would’ve revealed it at the devstream. (I missed it)

[amber mantle]

they only just released vauban heirloom, it'll be a bit before we hear any more on that front

hell, we're not hearing about the next prime (probably styanax, if the pattern holds) until pax east at the end of the month

[steep acorn]

Splatoon Follie is peak

Just hope the things she spawns has no collision

[exotic vault]

Its gonna have collision and it will be worst collision, its gonna be terrible, everyone gonna suffer, we are all gonna die stuck in follie ink statue, its gonna be terrible, it will be like a very horrible time, everything is terrible, i love spreading missinformation online, its gonna suck.

[frosty spade]

-# it'll also spread beyond the game and devour your system!

[abstract junco]

and then it'll consume your soul, then your house, then your country, and so on, until all of reality has been consigned to the void for eternity

[bold lodge]

DE will do anything but give us the Tenet Ambassador. They must hate the Ambassador so much

[steady aspen]

wait really?

[left aurora]

nah i think of a fly head instead

[rain pendant]

yay!

[prime pilot]

just the starters

[pliant herald]

The shiny cards will be mine

[amber mantle]

the worst part is technically the tenet ambassador exists, but it was a limited-time skin lmao

[cerulean anchor]

Which warframes and weapons are all being easier to get?

[verbal matrix]

the 3 starter frames are now 24 hrs

[stuck laurel]

Hi where is recap devstream 193 please ? On forum warframe

[rocky canyon]

I never saw that till now

[frosty spade]

Alt helmet looks good at least.

[amber mantle]

https://www.warframe.com/en/news/devstream-193-overview you mean this?

[stuck laurel]

Thanks you

[oak raven]

have the devs confirmed removing the lohk surge+rpg combo?

the infinite ammo rpg what im looking forward to most

[subtle monolith]

I'm predicting we get Styanax Prime in April, just cant wait to get my favourite spartan frame as a golden boi

[thick lava]

Yes. In today's devshort, they confirmed that the infinite ammo is being pulled from the surge pool on Follie.

They cited performance concerns on heavier tilesets.

[subtle basin]

Anything interesting they said on the devshort?

[thick lava]

Sketchbook summons scale with enemy level, as that are how they are coded as natural level hazards

3rd is (currently) follies subsume

[amber mantle]

palladino's new wares will be weekly purchases of retired requiem relics, riven ciphers, riven transmuters, requiem ultimatum, endo, and maybe iron wake captura and rell emotion cards

also iron wake fast travel points

[thick lava]

The larger summons will have no collision, so you can't troll other players by blocking doors or objectives

[boreal granite]

Folie’s Lohk Surges will exclude the infinite ammo buff due to concerns of nuking other players’ performance on maps that are less optimized than the Zariman and Labs.

On that note, a humble request: Would it be possible to allow the infinite ammo surge to be made on those maps and exclude it elsewhere?

[noble pasture]

Ngl, it should just not be allowed to have BOTH infinite ammo and shoot speed buff

Infinite ammo should be fine by itself no ?

Because they gained both infinite ammo and shoot speed up ?

[subtle basin]

Hooray consistent source of requiems

This will make getting my last 3 adversary ephemeras easy as hell

[glass cave]

Ehhhh not a huge fan of folies drawing ability scaling with enemy level ngl

[final mantle]

it makes more sense to me than power strength, but hey

it also depends how hard they make her scale, perhaps it's not really a cause for concern

[drowsy niche]

I'm so so happy to know Follie's subsumed ability won't be her 1, was really hoping it'd either be her 3 or 4

[final mantle]

subject to change* though, so

[abstract junco]

Scaling with enemy level is useful actually, because ability strength can only do so much

[final mantle]

and thank god for this palladino shop update, she badly needed it

[abstract junco]

Definitely

[final mantle]

at least things to buy with riven shards

[abstract junco]

Real

[thick lava]

I think the other sticking point is that there are other ways to get speed that makes infinite ammo a problem.

Like if I'm Follie and I want to give my buddy gauss the RPG, he gets the infinite ammo. Redline will boost it. We've still got two extra party members. Wisp can add a mote for even more, or a volt 3 can be used to speed the reload of the launcher for more boom.

[final mantle]

see this is something I really, really appreciate about DE, they don't let systems to rot, and they update old stuff

so, SO many other studios just never bother with either

[abstract junco]

It's really quite refreshing

[final mantle]

volt 2, speed is on 2, 3 is his shield*

I still kinda dream of a serious railjack update, new nodes perhaps? and also perhaps a serious archwing update

[thick lava]

Right. After 3k hours I will always get those two swapped lmao

[final mantle]

but hey, I don't like, cope like in other games, I think it will happen

very minor mistake, I think every Tenno understood what you mean ^^

but something I have somewhat wet dreams about, is not so much raids, but they will most likely happen again at some point
but rather an event with an orphix threat that would be system wide

I keep forgetting how that event was called but even if it was repetitive af after a while, I dream of an event like this in modern warframe

condrix maybe? not orphix

[abstract junco]

They've said they have something planned regarding railjacks in a previous stream/short, and given we're going to Tau sometime this year, it'd make perfect sense to do so via railjack, with railjack nodes and hopefully some archwing updates & nodes as well

So I believe Tau will be—at least in part—a serious railjack update

And hopefully, maybe, we'll get Sentients added to the adversary system

Wouldn't be surprised if we got a Caliban protoframe with it too

[left aurora]

why caliban proto...

i don't see how

[abstract junco]

It's Tau, populated by Sentients it'd be the only logical place for Albrecht to make a Caliban protoframe

[final mantle]

and Caliban is the result of the short live sentient orokin peace, so yeah, makes sense

[rocky canyon]

Did they say if the survival code things regenerate on the map as time goes on?
Or will it be a thing were we have to save them to be efficient?

[final mantle]

iirc they said during the stream or it was clarified that it is a once per 5 minute speed up thing

don't quote me on that since I am not sure now

[verbal matrix]

scarlett spear?

[final mantle]

probably yes

the one where you fought a metric ton of condrixes and there was this giant board

just watching the videos of the event, even the official ones, makes me infinitely more involved, as opposed to defend the relay or something

I mean, in isolation, defending relays make a lot of sense, but JEEZ is it repetitive

coming from the guy who doesn't mind 1h survival to get relics or crack relics

[verbal matrix]

yeap scarlet spear it is

man, it very nearly fried the game lol

one of the reasons we dont see scarlet spear repeated is because it was a technical nightmare for DE iirc

[final mantle]

it came during the infamous trilogy of updates that nearly killed warframe afaik

well, fair enough

[verbal matrix]

because they were asked if it would return

[final mantle]

that makes me very sad, ngl

it would make soooo much more sense to have that kind of event to defend relays

[verbal matrix]

eh, Ive been playing warframe throughout, I dont think at any point warframe had a series of updates that threatened to kill the game

[final mantle]

instead of the thing we have

I'm overblowing it on purpose like I'm some goddamn youtuber or tiktoker

I know it cannot really cause the game to die

[verbal matrix]

lol its definitely a clickbaity sentence

[final mantle]

I like attention, what can I say

but in all seriousness, I see why it's not coming back and I will live with that until warframe improves ^^

[verbal matrix]

personally not sure if this is something that improvement can bring back

I cant remember the jargon

but it might have something to do with infrastructure?

[abstract junco]

I'm sure they could find a way to bring it back without the game breaking, but it'd likely require the event be re-coded, which is probably more effort than they'd prefer to have to put into a returning event

Not necessarily impossible, so much as improbable

[final mantle]

come to think of it, some people mourn the loss of early nightwave things and alerts, which sounded way more nightmarish for DE to update than scarlet spear

[verbal matrix]

probably (pun intended)

[verbal matrix]

oh nah this one is an easier explanation

[final mantle]

and hey, warframe will probably get a raid at some point in the future, so

[verbal matrix]

nightwave story draws the same resources as quests, so they discontinued stories nightwaves in favour of focusing on quests

[final mantle]

aaaaah, thanks for the explanation, the video I watched didn't really explain this, or I'm a bad listener

[verbal matrix]

iirc its the same department working on both, and theyd rather have them work on one thing instead of being split into two

[final mantle]

or they could just, you know, hire twice as much people so we can have both ;p

[verbal matrix]

-# me Im available

[abstract junco]

Would be nice if they'd at least make the nightwave stories playable for those who missed them though

[final mantle]

tbh I'm not sure I would absolutely want to do that

and that is also yes, if they could give us Nihil, a small series of quests that could even reward a few current nightwave creds, or an event even, would probably do well

[abstract junco]

I mean sure, they let you watch the cutscenes from them, but you can't experience the actual content that went with them

And that's the disappointing part

[final mantle]

heh, some day maybe

at least DE absolutely refuses to go the bungie way with destiny and lets you access the content, even if it's outdated, with to my knowledge very few exceptions

[abstract junco]

Definitely

[verbal matrix]

to be fair, a number of the mechanics for the nightwaves have been replicated in some form elsewhere

although of course its no substitute

wolf is in veilbreaker content, prelate is on deimos and the cephalite stuff is in descendia

[amber mantle]

https://fxtwitter.com/PabloMakes/status/2028952375071838516

Pablo (@PabloMakes)

🎈

Quoting River Stryx (@River_Stryx)
︀
@PabloMakes Hello Pablo, longtime player, and I think Follie looks great. I have a question regarding Follie's second ability (Sketchbook), and that is if the items spawned will have their default art/textures? Or will they look more 'inky' to match the vibe?

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FxTwitter · Mar 3, 2026, 9:55 PM

oooooooooooo

[abstract junco]

That death orb looks like it came out of an oil spill 😂

[final tide]

What is gonna happen if Follie uses her ultimate in a corridor or in any other place where there are no high ceiling? Are enemies gonna flip through the floor?

[final mantle]

given current context, an oil spill is huh, well

I suspect the balloons are gonna hit the ceiling and they're gonna keep being moved around

[ocean yoke]

https://fxtwitter.com/PabloMakes/status/2028955328323187134

Pablo (@PabloMakes)

@sdjohnson72 That is actually one of the reasons I don't want it to be her 3, would need to be Follie, due to some technical issues... I probably shouldn't show you this, but this is what it looks like with Saryn 😅

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FxTwitter · Mar 3, 2026, 10:07 PM

LMAOOOOO

[final mantle]

goddamn

[restive nebula]

anyone have good endo farms

or credit farms that isn’t arena

[toxic hearth]

For credit farm i like to do high risk index doing a couple rounds could be 750k to 1million credits and for endo bounties that give 4000(1999 and sanctum) just hope you get the rewards honestly

[final mantle]

a more consistent endo farm is well, arbitrations

and ofc I'm forgetting from where you can get 30k weekly, but that one exists

[rain pendant]

750k is 3 rounds btw, speed depends on how fast you kill and deposit
i suggest bringing enemy radar and cashing in 20? or 15? at a time

most of the wasted time in index is looking for enemies imo

[abstract junco]

I've got over 100k endo, ain't no reason to farm the stuff when it drops so damn often

[final tide]

I mean if there is no space to fly up and enemies cant fall down to be damaged from falling are they just gonna get their armor stripped? Or falling damage is just like pleasant bonus to the main armor stripping part?

[final mantle]

I'm not going to risk answering that one

[final tide]

Like Follie is great in my opinion both visually and gameplay wise so I have such probably stupid questions

I missed the devshorts so could not ask Pablo directly

[crude ruin]

Regarding Pallidino's wares at Iron wake, did they mention if you could eventually buy more than one Rell's Donda?

I have two (One from Twitch years ago probably), so I thought it might be a good decoration to get more of too.

[alpine path]

Holy common L for fatshaming Follie, and regardless anyway

NGL if Xaku was released this day and age, it would get absolutely crushed with similar force😭

Pathetic istg

[inner seal]

People complain for the sake of complaining. My advice? Ignore it.

[verbal matrix]

Is there something wrong with my discord who are y'all talking about

[inner seal]

Bums in the community fatshaming Follie.

[rose geyser]

I like Follie

Who was fatshaming follie?

[rocky canyon]

The antithesis to that is probably those drawings of Follie x Grendel

[rain pendant]

this 900 comment thread in the forums that took way too long to be locked by a mod

[rocky canyon]

There are definitely a few feedback posts that are outliers.

[rose geyser]

Jesus..

[rain pendant]

definitely check forums if you wanna see WF's worst

[random night]

I'm so impatient to play the new content and to get Follie and to fashion frame her.

[solar rune]

An augment idea for Follie

"Doodle"

Ink enemies have an increased chance of dropping resources. Drop chance scales with strength..

[buoyant charm]

Chotto mate

Take a deep breath let it take a time for it.

[ashen dagger]

My god, it's insane that it had been ongoing for a month

[rain pendant]

and then finally! its closed with the coda of "people can have their opinions" despite, well

anyways, cant wait for follie to break the game in half

[ashen dagger]

Hell yeah

[rain pendant]

spawning death orbs is just silly. where did she learn to draw that

[ashen dagger]

Hopefully in the lore behind her they explain some things.

I think I saw somebody saying that there's a chinese saying "Having ink in one's stomach" which means that a person is well educated or knowledgeable, particularly in regards to cultural cultivation or extensive knowledge

[quartz ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-simpson-eating-paper-eating-page-book-gif-18132062

[worthy charm]

I know the thread you are talking about and it's quite funny cause alot of people say "She doesn't fit the aesthetic of space ninjas"
Neither does 99% of the roster bucko. The only space ninja is ash cause he is a ninja in space

[quartz ravine]

Literally the only one that is a actual ninja lmao

[noble pasture]

We needed a plus sized female warframe

Grendel was added

So it was her turn as well

[noble pasture]

We got pirates, ghosts, fairies, wendigos, werewolfs, blackhome generators, actual blackhole, speedy guy and even more.

Is it even fair to call Warframe a space ninja game ?

It would be closer to call it a Godly Kids playground at this point

[quartz ravine]

Follie is fine af though people just be tripping over metal armor 😂

[quartz ravine]

Considering how vast the game is compared to when I played alpha it's definitely not just space ninjas anymore

[noble pasture]

The helmet tho is absolutely horrid tho

Mosquito follie

[quartz ravine]

Some helmets be like that

[gray beacon]

It's not a bad helmet though

Just not visually pleasing

Which is I think what they are going for

[dull zealot]

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[rain pendant]

whoa. when did you show up

[amber mantle]

......huh. never seen that before

[ashen dagger]

....What got removed 👀?

[quartz ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-tables-redacted-itysl-gif-7509964966273025800

[left otter]

That message was enabled yesterday. 🙂

(It only removes content it sees as scam content)

[rain pendant]

cool work! :o

[abstract junco]

Efficient, nice. Saves mods the trouble of keeping a constant eye out for those

[final mantle]

thank god for automation, for some areas at least

[abstract junco]

A little QoL update for the moderation team, basically 😂

[cosmic echo]

So when's the next prime reveal again?

[abstract junco]

Pax East

[nocturne edge]

Based on the release order, i think it's going to be Styanax.

[abstract junco]

Yes, that's likely. However, they were asking when the reveal would be, not who the next prime would be

[final mantle]

Styanax strong candidate, but I'm willing to bet a little money on one of the recent releases too

like cyte, temple perhaps

[zinc sluice]

Do you guys think the rpg from follie's sketch work well with koumei decrees?

[final mantle]

hard to answer that one

depends if decrees scale with power strength, but I assume they do, and how well both scale from enemies and strength respectively

[zinc sluice]

i mean the interaction

Koumei following decrees:
+300% Magazine Capacity
30% chance to refill ammo on kill

[verbal matrix]

well theres a very difficult way to test it

and thats to bring koumei to an assassination mission and get that decree and see if it works with the thermian

[zinc sluice]

oh yea, imma do that later when i get back from work. Probably end up more than 1 hour in that mission.

[timid ember]

i think those are expected 2028, primes are usually the oldest first, which the oldest 4 are currently styanax, voruna, citrine, and kullervo which im expecting this year, with dagath qorvex dante and jade for next year.

[crude ruin]

If it is Styanax, I'm hoping it'll be an animated trailer like regular Styanax had 🙂

[crude ruin]

I was thinking maybe one of Follie's abilities could have an augment that reduces the cooldown of her 2nd ability, similar to how one of Lavos' abilities can reduce cooldowns of his other abilities (If I remember correctly).

Unless that's already implemented in her kit that is

[worthy charm]

Cyte and temple are still far far too recent to get a prime
The 2022 - 2023 frames need to get theirs and are next up in queue. Given we are at the 50th prime in the game, No other frame deserves it more than the frame that had most of his hype and marketing being the 50th frame. Our lovely Spartan styanax

Also what evilintent said
Oldest always comes first for primes

[final mantle]

fair enough, I guess

(it's just because I love cyte that I want a prime)

[timid ember]

could be cool to see them give styanax prime away like they did normal styanax

cyte will get a prime, all warframe will in time, just that cytes expected to be 2 years from now

[final mantle]

I doubt it will be the case, even if I somehow believe they could, since styanax has, I believe a relatively low usage

again, fair enough

follie prime, when DE :p

[timid ember]

honestly, if i remember the list right, follie prime will end up somewhere 2029

[worthy charm]

Hes 8th least used frames

The top 10 is surprising especially 10th least used frame

[final mantle]

it's not because a frame has low use that it's not fun, that is

I didn't enjoy loki, but even him has its fans

[worthy charm]

It's the acquisition of him that has the play rate so low
Because of how kahl works (Even though it's not THAT bad)

[timid ember]

what is the bottom 10 anyway?

[final mantle]

I can confirm, it's not that bad

if ash hadn't been in the circuit I would not have bothered with his grind

by comparison, styanax is just a time lock, sort of

and kahl and the camp are a nice alternative farm

[timid ember]

how i feel about nidus, and yareli, sucks yareli isnt on circuit tho

[worthy charm]

Least used from top to bottom

1. Banshee
2. Qorvex
3. Dagath
4. Grendel
5. Limbo
6. Baruuk
7. Equinox
8. Styanax
9. Temple
10. Nokko

Nokko was the shocking one to me

[final mantle]

some have problems, like limbo and banshee, but nokko has low use?? what?

[timid ember]

yeah i can see nokko, pain in the ass to grind, even if he is pretty fun

[final mantle]

dagath low too?? waow

[rain pendant]

grendel low? damn

[timid ember]

of those i think the only one i dont have yet is nokko

[final mantle]

oh wow I didn't spot grendel

baruuk is well, special sort of

[timid ember]

grendel i find has issues maintaining with how fast enemies usually die, and if you cant eat them then youre sol as him

im surprised limbos so low tho, hes usually pretty handy

[worthy charm]

Whats shocking is that 2 places ahead of nokko

Is citrine

Actually wait no that's not a surprise the grind is tiresome

LOL

Here it is btw

[timid ember]

yeah her grinds annoying too, but shes also older, and straight forward compared to the mess that is nokkos

i know excalibur is the poster boy, and umbras free, but top 3???

[rain pendant]

harrow in 0.7 i love you harrow

[worthy charm]

It does make a lot of sense excal is top 3

[rain pendant]

i'm at least 0.70 of harrows usage

[worthy charm]

Im a huge chunk of limbos usage

[timid ember]

i will say top 10 is about what i expected, alot of powerful warframes there

[rain pendant]

everyone says kullervo is a hoe and a half to farm but i guess wrathful advance is just too good

[timid ember]

rather the kullervo farm over the oraxia one,

[rain pendant]

isleweaver is gwnerally consideres ro be more straighrforward than duviri exp

[timid ember]

atleast with kullervo i can do the funny get every singe decree and slap him

[rain pendant]

and people stop whining about muh slow gameplay

[worthy charm]

Dont care about either farms
I'm still purchasing incarnon adapters for resources from duviri

[rain pendant]

10+ decrees and youre just bullying him

[worthy charm]

You'll never ever catch me in duviri

[rain pendant]

if you were ever an Archimedean your punishment would just be a locked room with wf running duviri

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-adam-warlock-dont-be-rash-will-poulter-marvel-gif-7269497775167346680

[timid ember]

yeah? too bad 155 or however many there are, casually walk around duviri on foot at mach yes

[rain pendant]

i love the 1000% speed boost you outrun the orowyrm and you're just in highway speeds now

genuinely think by 100+ decrees its legal for the Drifter to be in an interstate highway

[timid ember]

probably, thatd be a sight

[crude ruin]

Gauss could just run across the solar rails at that speed straight out of Duviri

[halcyon dagger]

Last time 1 got over 100 decrees I used the multijump one with the amount of speed to clear the gap between two islands without flying

It was incredibly funny

Ooh the clan QoL seems really nice

[silver wigeon]

Would the new update still be feasible for a solo member clan to complete the rewards

Cuz I run a solo dojo for personal reasons

[fallow wedge]

Missed opportunity to name the Gauss and Grendal bundle "dine and dash"

[sweet tapir]

Dude yes, that’s on point

[amber mantle]

DE: we're incentivising playing with other people to enhance the social aspect of the game and encourage people to actually play multiplayer rather than play solo
people in solo clans: but what about me :(

[verbal matrix]

funny enough, when they introduced the bundle on the devstream they called it 'Eat and Run" or "Dine and Dash"

[bitter blaze]

The update is really going to suck for those who are in the console space and don't pay for the online subscription because they basically can't or just don't want to. Although really I think Nintendo is the worst offender for that.

[verbal matrix]

they saw "Dine and Dash" and opted not to take it

who knows why

maybe to not be liable if someone actually dine and dashes LOL

[fallow wedge]

Such a shame. Is "eat and run" a more common expression up north?

"Up north" as if im not like 5hrs directly west of London, Ontario

[timid ember]

even small clans are going to suffer, theres only like 2 people most online on my clan, if it applied to alliances then thatd be different, id actually have a reason to interact with my alliance

[final mantle]

I am very often the only one in my clan online

but it's perhaps going to incentivize everyone to huh, well, join active clans I guess, which is probably the goal, since the rewards are decent enough

if they ever added monthly rewards like I dunno, tauforged archon shards or rare arcanes, solo clans would cease to exist

[dry zephyr]

yeah same

no one else plays consistently if at all anymore 💔

[final mantle]

and hey at least DE does what massive does not with the division 2, aka trying to actually update the system instead of letting it rot

to be honest with yall, I'm thinking of joining a more active clan

especially with those announcements

[frosty spade]

Hopefully they can apply the changes to alliances as well, especially with the "Clan Only" matchmaking option including them already.

But of anything that needs updating, it's the clan badge system.
It's been the same since clans were added back in 2013, lol.

128x128 is absymally low for the badge's resolution

[final mantle]

yeah the alliances need help too, that's a criticism i've seen floating around, and I can't find something to say against it

oh yeah the clan badge thing is huuuh

but hey, at the very least DE does update its systems, even if they're a decade old

so at some point I think warframe will just be the live service experience, eclipsing even destiny

[dry zephyr]

damn was the first destiny really that good

[final mantle]

see every time I heard of it, every time I watch other people talk and glaze it, my brain always screams that it's overrated

and it had another massive issue for me, which definitely ruled it out : an fps but on console

[frosty spade]

I actually refunded D1 when they put out the first raid as I just found it boring and not worth the price.

[dry zephyr]

yeah same

id like to try destiny 2 to see how that is too cuz i dont want to hate blindly but im not tryna pay like 200 to play the full game

[final mantle]

and to be fair to destiny, the music is fantastic, the environments have a lot of work behind them, and artistically speaking the game is indeed top notch

[frosty spade]

I did the "Digital Deluxe" pack for D1 so it included the "expansions", when I went to get a refund, they said "it would be for the full game", and I took it, lol

I did put a decent number of hours into D1 already by that point.

[final mantle]

but yeah their $$$$ strategy since d2....

and effin vaulting content who tf does that?

wow doesn't do that, ff14 doesn't do that, no mmo or shooter does that

like if you are a new player and you start today, the base campaign of d2 is just a powerpoint that you watch on a timeline

[slate wraith]

Ew! Are we talking about... Destiny? 🤢🤮

[final mantle]

can you even imagine for a second, like, warframe doing that?

I don't understand this choice, I really don't

[dry zephyr]

lmao

[final mantle]

anyway, it's off topic by a wild margin

the last destiny players will switch to warframe over time, or to marathon, or arc raiders or even helldivers 2

[slate wraith]

They didnt just vault the content. Its gone. Like erased. Doesnt exist. The Red War was deleted 🤣

[final mantle]

oh wow

[frosty spade]

At least when DE removed raids, there was an actual reason.
They kept them going for a long time, even after they were "done" fixing their myriad of bugs (notably in JV)

[dry zephyr]

marathon?

[final mantle]

well it's a bungie game so I expect some destiny players will swap somehow

[frosty spade]

LoR's final nail in the coffin was when DE overhauled the Earth tileset as things really broke for LoR

[final mantle]

you know, brand loyalty n all

[slate wraith]

Someone sued Bungie over vaulted content and Bungie told the court "We couldn't bring back Red War even if we wanted to. The files no longer exist." Paraphrasing but still

[dry zephyr]

wtf

why would they actually

delete the files

[slate wraith]

Save space

"Optimization"

[final mantle]

even massive doesn't do that with the division

and god knows they could, but they never did

instead they are expanding the world

[slate wraith]

😂

[frosty spade]

lol wtf

that is actually insane

[final mantle]

waow

it's like, I dunno, if the division deleted the first mission you do

or warframe deleting the awakening and parts of earth?

[slate wraith]

Anyways! Heres to the end of Destiny 2 and the 7k players it has left on Steam

Shadowgrapher!!

[final mantle]

yep

totally honest the new game mode looks interesting, but I am kinda almost more hyped by the rest

[slate wraith]

Anyone else get MAJOR Pennywise vibes from the teaser trailer? 😂

[final mantle]

like a palladino shop update, requiem relics, etc

ah yeah some people in chat said so

[frosty spade]

is nice with WF that the stuff I had from 10 years ago I still have to this day, could even play the same missions from 10 years ago, lol

[final mantle]

make the balloons red, and you can go cosmic horror

Tenno, the shining go get it

[slate wraith]

You might be able to with your energy

[final mantle]

but honestly, I think the Tenno pown pennywise no problemos

like, I think any frame would just send him back to the void

[slate wraith]

Im most excited for the lich mods rework 🤣

[final mantle]

ooooh I almost forgot the foil mods

that is also something that actually looks amazing

that they bothered with something this, "useless" and ran with it, and I am hyped as feck for it

[frosty spade]

And it's not a gacha thing.

Easy-to-farm resource for it, and just "upgrade" existing mods.

[final mantle]

almost all publishers would be monetizing the hell out of this, yeah

[frosty spade]

A little bonus that doesn't affect gameplay and is simply nice to have.

[final mantle]

imagine that, in this economy

but I think DE has almost always been fair when monetizing; the rare times they wanted to go the "usual publisher" route, like, the p2w repairs with railjack initially, or the pay plat to revive in missions, the community told them no

I just noticed this
Tempera amp skin, so it is confirmed

I hope they don't lock it in the bundle

[silver wigeon]

.-. Thanks for thr response mate

[cursive rampart]

The numbers in the fundraiser actually seem reasonable...

[abstract junco]

Well, it is part of a charity fundraiser, so...

[abstract junco]

Hopefully it's available for Drifter too

Nothing wrong with the Sirocco's looks or anything, just... Drifter deserves the same kind of variety of amp appearances that Operator has

Kinda disappointing how constructed amps just look like Sirocco on Drifter

[final mantle]

yeah i didn't want to jinx it

and be it another no drifter love skin

it doesn't look great or super detailed, but i'm curious; and i want it but outside of the bundle, DE

[dire torrent]

Has styanax prime been shown yet?

[abstract junco]

No

[dire torrent]

Fml

I've been waiting for 3 years

[abstract junco]

The next prime will be revealed at the PAX East convention later this month

[dire torrent]

I was hoping he would release with follie

[abstract junco]

That'd be too early based on their usual release schedule for primes

And there's no guarantee it'll be Styanax, sure he's the most likely and most expected choice, but DE could just as easily pick a different frame instead

We, the players, won't know until DE makes the announcement at PAX East on the 28th

Three days after Follie's release

[noble pasture]

I mean maybe

But caliban prime was an exception because of the circumstances of the new story mission

[dusk radish]

I don't have the money to buy enough plat to girdle up mah bois and get folie. Time to contact everyday till i get a discount

[abstract junco]

No need for plat, just farm her blueprints instead

[dusk radish]

You don't understand that i want the swag

[fierce prairie]

The True endgame is Fashion Frame

[elfin kiln]

i can see them delaying styanax by one prime access, so he will be the 50th access, cause excal prime doesnt rly count for that

[fierce prairie]

…
Folie having customized art things is just further proving Fashion is endgame

[elfin kiln]

im just hoping whoever is the next has some banger accessories

[abstract junco]

Good point, I hadn't thought of that

[elfin kiln]

cause all 4 of the oldest non-primed frames have great aesthetics

kullervo could get some sick armor or operator suit

styanax could also be a great opertaor suit too now that i think abt it

godddd

its painful to wait while not knowing

alas thats all we can do

[noble pasture]

Get a job like me if possible, every month I get the duo prime resurgence bundle

I have been doing that for almost a year, DANG I have been waiting a long time for the nidus bundle

But the drip is immaculate

I love all the armor and cosmetics you get from the prime resurgences

[hazy gazelle]

God I hope they do more clan updates. Would be so cool to get a game mode where our dojos get under attacked! Everyone running home after getting an alert from their phones lmao

[noble pasture]

Dojo wars

Where we send one or 2 railjacks to war

To fight the enemy dojo

[hazy gazelle]

Brother we can only be so lucky