[ALL] broken music megathread

[mystic spoke]

or is the song gone forever

fr

[clever mural]

I’d guess so

[mystic spoke]

f5-f6 ruins the whole atmosphere of tonn

because its music missing

the "nobdys here"

bodys

[clever mural]

F1 ruins the start, f7 ruins the beach section and f10 ruins the ending

[mystic spoke]

f5 is also runied the floors music fits so well but is gone

[clever mural]

Chris de burgh/Chuck Pearson’s Eccojams

[clever mural]

library of runiea

[mystic spoke]

everything that is underlined is gone

thats ALOT

ima do a rebeat for a second check to comfirm tho

nvm got softlocked😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

[mystic spoke]

Updated list for ToNN, Green = Working, Red = Not working, and Yellow = Works in towers place but not EToH.

[clever mural]

How

[mystic spoke]

t pose breaks f4

[viscid stirrup]

todan roof (second visit after "floor 10")

[woven mountain]

We need ts fixed

[ashen glacier]

bruh music is so cooked Nooo that was like such a big aspect of ToNN

[mystic spoke]

fr

52.94% is missing

[strong basalt]

yo can yall fix the ToCA F10 moter song for a bit it still only lasts like 30 secs 😭

[valid gazelle]

Sure

[surreal parrot]

Do yall know that one of the floors on togla has broken music

The home - resonance one

Only good one

[strong basalt]

"only good one" bro is slandering point of no return 🥀

but also resonance can give ppl copyright claims on their YT vids i'm not surprised it got taken down by roblox

[surreal parrot]

I didn’t reach that one I disconnected

Loopfailing is awesome

[surreal parrot]

Ah that makes sense

[strong basalt]

rip

[distant delta]

ToTINT, F10 choice dialogue.

[naive plaza]

ToSO inside

[ashen glacier]

tbh i hope we can find a more permenant way for music to not get constantly removed due to BS roblox

[lunar inlet]

ToPV(M) F8

[normal orbit]

ToPL has a lot of broken songs
f10 is the one that should be fixed in main priority because it literally just makes the tower impossible to complete

[lucid wind]

wait does this mean that ToMD(M) music is gone

[cedar current]

ToCR winroom

[viscid stirrup]

ToUD floor 2

[serene citrus]

Gg

[cedar current]

ty

[dusk aspen]

CoOTWI trial 3

[gleaming stag]

ToQT f3-4

[potent crag]

ToGLA floor 9

[valid gazelle]

Fixed

[strong basalt]

nice

[raw coyote]

ToMB f3

[novel kettle]

ToFaST F9-F10

[zinc cloak]

zone 5 froggy therapy

CoCE Entrance

this one

[zinc cloak]

CoCE F5

[zinc cloak]

why does "xtrullor - oomb" in SoHP has the "what happens when life breaks down" section removes when ToST(L) has it

[viscid stirrup]

floor 1 of ToCOA in time lost tempest, cant check other floors as according to sign outside, im never beating this

[mossy oriole]

tomr(m) this floor

[turbid oxide]

lfoor 5

[last echo]

tocoa(m) f1

[last echo]

tophat f7-8

[clear void]

this still (torer f3)

[zinc cloak]

this section before the island with the winpad in ToW

[strong basalt]

iirc this is deadass just the ToBT pre-FS wind loop LMAO

[zinc cloak]

why are wind songs getting taken down it doesnt make any sense its just wind

[jovial mountain]

oops! wind itself copyrighted by roblox, cant have anything

[zinc cloak]

wind is copyrighted by god

[jovial mountain]

i had no idea god himself the creator, is covering for db

[ashen glacier]

thats a pretty tragic one to be brokenn

[cedar current]

yeah lol, i just played the music from a yt vid in the bg tho so it made no different

[distant delta]

ToOTTF F3.

[ashen glacier]

i might beat tocr today btw, i failed 4th last jump yesterday

[vital lava]

ToPHaT:C floors 7-8 have no audio

[zinc cloak]

Same with the normal version of ToPHaT in z1

[normal orbit]

Is it me or not a single toromw music works besides f7

[zinc cloak]

probably just you

[normal orbit]

Interesting, I have no idea how to fix this issue, it happens on both my accounts, no matter if I change my wifi or not, or if I restart the game

[zinc cloak]

check the console maybe

[normal orbit]

How? I play on mobile, btw

Could that be the issue?

[zinc cloak]

type "/console" in the chat

[normal orbit]

I dont have access to chat...

I don't trust Roblox's new system

guess im cooked

😭

[zinc cloak]

alright then imma try to go to toromw to see if the music's actually broken (i still have chat lel)

[normal orbit]

can you also check ToPL f10 if possible? The tower literally becomes impossible without f10's music

I got softlocked at f10 3 times cuz of that.

[zinc cloak]

cant

[normal orbit]

Alr, thanks tho!

[final inlet]

f9 ToCaV

[zinc cloak]

CoGS(C) F11 (Forest floor)

[narrow tartan]

CoWN f4

[viscid stirrup]

april fools 2024 lobby

oh wait i rejoined and its working fine 🙂

[fervent arrow]

Pretty sure the music that plays in this room broke.

[fervent arrow]

ToIS Floor 1

[zinc cloak]

ToDC(C) F1 (dont know if it actually got deleted or not since i cant check dev console anymore because of the chat update 💀)

[fervent arrow]

ToDS Floor 1

[fallen ore]

CoTWI floors 3-4 ("lavalands") and 5-6 (saw trap) songs are not working

[dusk aspen]

SoVV f3

[dusk aspen]

NO TORRA GUY

RIP

[fallen ore]

the guy that talks about how the player's friend got cancer? hes still there

as well as the saw guy

[pulsar tangle]

steeple of egg searches floor 6

[plush ermine]

works for me

[pulsar tangle]

steeple of chaotic hunting floor 3

[grim raptor]

CoWN f4

[fervent arrow]

SoFW floor 5

[fervent arrow]

ToFJ F3

[timid magnet]

ToTHT F1 and ToTHT portal room

[distant delta]

ToPI, everywhere except F1

[humble lark]

ToIS F1

[pseudo wren]

you dont need to prove it

[humble lark]

oh ok

[viscid stirrup]

SoCH (easter) floor 3

[viscid stirrup]

AF 2023

ToToToT

floor 1

[pseudo wren]

CoWN f4

[placid topaz]

topz f5 and f6 i think

[grim raptor]

sohp f4

sohp f5

[viscid stirrup]

ToToToT
floor 5 "Baldi's Basics" song (no audio file on wiki)

[viscid stirrup]

ok THE ENTIRE TOWER IS MUTED!

[viscid stirrup]

ToPHaT F7-8 even in classic version of tower

ToFT classic F1

[grim raptor]

tois f1

[slim root]

Toif portal room

Torer 3 might still be broken too

[viscid stirrup]

ToDS classic F1

[zinc cloak]

And f2
Also applies to the normal tods

[viscid stirrup]

f2 here too

[viscid stirrup]

SoFoG boss (halloween 2025)

or F5 according to wiki

F6 too

[placid topaz]

topz f5 and f6

[placid topaz]

toqt f3-f4

[viscid stirrup]

SoZZP floor 1 🙁

[mossy oriole]

all of sozzp lol

nvm f3 outside has music

idk about floor 6 but 3-5 does not have music

[grim raptor]

oh well the last floor has music at least then

[mossy oriole]

ok yea f6 has music too

just 1-5 dont

[viscid stirrup]

edit, hole SoZZP

[viscid stirrup]

floor 6 is muted for me

[long walrus]

A

[viscid stirrup]

ok now i finished this tower and even the lobby is muted now

[viscid stirrup]

rejoined, was a bug

[plush pasture]

todc f1

classic

[pulsar tangle]

tofh ending

[hallow cargo]

Some SoTRA(M) music zones don’t work properly (ex: F5 buildup and F5 itself)

there could be others that are less detectable

[zinc cloak]

ToCIAD F5

[dusk aspen]

ToOD F3

[pseudo wren]

ToIF portal room

[long walrus]

BLYAAATT

[zinc cloak]

What?

[zinc cloak]

ToFI(M) songs doesnt loop

[cobalt forge]

ToMB f3-f4

[errant bear]

Zone 2's lobby

[clever mural]

Last I was in there it worked fine

[cobalt forge]

f4 todt

[prisma brook]

z2 lobby

[vale river]

tocz f1

[zinc cloak]

is this floor supposed to have long wind loop

[flat jetty]

ToSFU f6 (the yellow floor)

[past kettle]

ToABCD first basement section

[brave sinew]

Miku emote not having a song attached to it (could be intentional since some other emotes dont have them) but i thought it was expected to get one
Miku by Ananamaguchi should be used for the emote if its gonna get a song

Fixed now

[merry drum]

most music in ToFI(M) doesn't loop, at least 1-4 and 7-10 if not the others as well

[stiff magnet]

ToMIM Floor 6 Code Room is broken

[dense plover]

toam f7

[dense plover]

cown f4

[muted lion]

ToBBBB F7-8

[primal acorn]

ToDC:C f1

[median tapir]

still toetu f1, 3 and 5

[viscid stirrup]

Zone 2 lobby NOT FIXED EVEN BEFORE THE CHRISTMAS

[zinc cloak]

Steven I think you should pitch up the zone 2 lobby song and see if that bypass the music removal system

[stiff magnet]

It was fixed for a moment

I heard it play

[errant bear]

ToNN, F1, F3, F5-6

I havent checked the other floors i'll do it later

[dusk aspen]

tower of one two three four f3

f1 too I think

[opaque flame]

Along with ToNN f7 dream part, f8 all of it missing other than the church, floor 9, I forget if f10 had anything missing

[lucid lynx]

I live in singapore and that's not us prob

[earnest zenith]

ToCIAD floor 10 and floor 5, and maybe the winpad too i forgot

also ToGLA f9

[earnest zenith]

todac f4

[mystic epoch]

torer f3

[earnest zenith]

toqt f3/4

[sacred orbit]

ToSFU F6

[tacit smelt]

ToPZ f5 - f6

[flat jetty]

ToIF portal room

[pseudo wren]

ToFI(M) F2

[sacred orbit]

ToFI(M)'s music in general is bugged, it doesnt loop ._.

[sacred orbit]

ToFJ F2

[boreal arch]

how did this even happen bruh

[zinc cloak]

Monthly towers music sometimes just doesn't loop/play

[boreal arch]

ok why monthly tower speifically tahts crazy

[zinc cloak]

Idk man it's just a reocurring problem

[boreal arch]

ok lol

[viscid stirrup]

ToFH final

• all unfixed musics in purgatorio since october!!

[viscid stirrup]

ok according to wiki it was struck

[gilded stone]

ToPZ f5 and f6
(also, f2 plays but is REALLY quiet if anything can be done abt that)

[lucid wind]

toid(m) f3

[lucid wind]

this toup(l) song

[viral berry]

toqt f3-4

[young plinth]

ToSRT f1

[lucid lynx]

I think missing songs were cuz of copyright strike

[primal acorn]

ToLL f4

[young plinth]

It seems like 75% of the time you enter the tower it doesnt play the first time your at f1 but if you fall back down it does???? What?

[zinc cloak]

Maybe it's just your roblox not loading it

[young plinth]

Well its not a specific device or internet or anything

[placid pumice]

f1 towe

[pseudo wren]

CoWN f4

[viscid stirrup]

SoWP floor 3

[primal acorn]

ToPHaT floors 7-8 music is extremely quiet and can be barely heard at even 100% volume

[zinc cloak]

thats because it got deleted

[primal acorn]

nope it plays

its just super quiet

[jade birch]

f4 cown (no actual name given for the song)

[primal acorn]

ToIS f1

[zinc cloak]

SoFW F5

[nocturne bloom]

the music in the ToIF portal room and the place under the lava where you go to the portal room

also the zone 2 music is just different now

[zinc cloak]

its different because the old one kept getting deleted when they try to reupload it

and the new one is better than the old one imo

[last fiber]

ToCAV f9 and SoVV f3

have more but not gonna bother rn

[somber crag]

Game so broken 😭

[dense plover]

tocav f10 song is gone??

[last fiber]

SoCH F3 SoES F6

[clever mural]

Once again, TONN 1, 5/6, 7, 10 etc

[somber crag]

ToETU 1 3 and 5

[wraith shell]

SoWP floor 3

[stoic berry]

ToBBBB f7

[flat jetty]

ToNN Floor 1

[earnest zenith]

ToFaST f9 and f10

[last fiber]

ToAAA F2

[deep wharf]

tonn

f1: Station K - Feels Like a Wish (starts at 0:14)
f3: S U B W A Y S - アイスクリーム
f5-f6: Oneohtrix Point Never - NOBODY HERE
f7 dream: VECTOR GRAPHICS - SURFING
f8 entrance: VECTOR GRAPHICS - DESTINE
f8 house: 2 8 1 4 - ふわっと
f8 void: 2 8 1 4 - ふわっと (0.24x speed)
f10 ending: FEX - Subways Of Your Mind (Darius Version)

[earnest zenith]

ToLL f4

[turbid oxide]

tonn has floors??

[deep wharf]

🧠 ** **

[olive bronze]

cootwi floors 3-4 and 5 (i think? in case i got the numbers wrong, the two farm floors and the two challenges floor

[narrow tartan]

ToRER f3

[hushed jasper]

toam f7

[tacit smelt]

toif portal room

[valid gazelle]

A lot of towers are going to be fixed tomorrow

The list includes
ToLL
ToNN
ToIF
ToAAA
ToRER
SoWP

Also idk who needs to hear this but the emotes lucky star, lagtrain, miku, daydream & doodle all have music now

[ionic rampart]

ToOTTF f1-4

[stark storm]

is ToETU fixed?

oh btw ToCaV F9 still doesnt work

[rancid zinc]

i rebeated tonn yesterday and they didnt fix bruh

:sob;

[clever mural]

Same today

[fallow spear]

first song in ToFT(C) is broken

[deep wharf]

contact me if you want all of the audio files

i don't want to flood chat but i have everything ready on standby

[stark storm]

ToSN(M) F5-6 (red/pink-ish)

[pseudo wren]

they should place back the rip baldi music back because it broke

[stark storm]

ToEEE(M) floor 8 - another medium

[leaden garnet]

they didnt delete it (unless there was an old song or they really did replace it)

[stoic berry]

it was deleted for a while but it's fixed now

[pulsar ocean]

its over 😔🙏

[thorn carbon]

well now what

[placid lynx]

RIP

[rancid zinc]

this thread is useless

or forme

idk

[valid gazelle]

Rings:
Ring 0:
Ring 1:
Ring 2:
Ring 3:
Ring 4:
Ring 5:
Ring 6:
Ring 7:
Ring 8:
Ring 9:

Zones:
Zone 1:
Zone 2:
Zone 3:
Zone 4:
Zone 5:
Zone 6:
Zone 7:
Zone 8:
Zone 9:
Zone 10:

Subrealms:
FR:
GoE:
Silent Abyss:
LR:
AT:
The Starlit Archives:
SH:
AA:
PA:

April Fools:
2021:
2022:
2023:
2024:
2025:

Halloween:
2018:
2019:
2020:
2022:
2023:
2024:
2025:

Christmas:
2018:
2019:
2020:
2021:
2022:
2023:
2024:
2025:

Time Lost Areas:
TLP:
TLC:
TLS:
TLT:

Miscalleneous:
Spring:
Thanksgiving:
Pit of Misery:
100M:
SoM:
LF:

[viral berry]

huh what

[mossy oriole]

here we go again

[stark storm]

what is this for

[plush ermine]

YOOOO

[plush ermine]

do uh 100m event and pom not have any copyright

[valid gazelle]

Oops

[plush ermine]

and som

lol

som is like the final boss i think 😭

[plush ermine]

the reveal ceremony has no copyrighted songs tight

right*

[valid gazelle]

I don't know

Can someone check for me

[plush ermine]

i cant rn cuz im afk in CD 😭😭😭

plate 4

[valid gazelle]

Lol its ok ill just leave it out of there until someone tells me

[plush ermine]

alr

[plush ermine]

make sure to not forget about boss areas

[valid gazelle]

Dont worry i wont

Theyre all bunched together in events anyways

[plush ermine]

yea

[plush ermine]

about Hell too

(the christmas one accessed in he2018)

[valid gazelle]

Dont worry

[plush ermine]

alr huge gl with this one

[small vessel]

You lowkey forgot legacy fortress

I saw that update in real time 🥹

[south venture]

So fucking stupid 😂

[dawn silo]

blue

[lean sigil]

ToNN and ToWWW both shot dead in the bronx

[stoic sierra]

totl is dead bc all of the music is from mario!!!!!

[stark storm]

ToID(M) f3-4 still

[jade birch]

toh shot dead in the bronx because most of its music is copyrighted

[south venture]

What’s ur hardest tower

[placid pumice]

was there a giant copyright wave or smth

[deep wharf]

w96 is allowed

towww is safe

[placid pumice]

im confused bro what happened

someone explain

[fallow sail]

nah the staff have just decided to stop allowing copyrighted music, it was apparently urgent according to gamma

its a bit sad but i get it

[south venture]

No it’s about “respect and ethics”

But only for the artists

Respect and ethics goes out the window when a builder asks to have their tower removed

[rancid zinc]

Windows 96 knows about etoh (cause of tosf) and he doesn’t care if tower builder uses his music so ToWWW is fine

[deep wharf]

#announcements message

[slim root]

Yay

[viral berry]

toei winroom music is gone

beat it just to hear nothing in the winroom

[south venture]

Get used to it

[viral berry]

ill probably have to

[vocal wind]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aySiPX0tphxB9nv5sspswQKjF5KifR0KLccAheT-pB0/edit?gid=0#gid=0 just realized this sheet might be relevant here

[stoic sierra]

cope

[south venture]

All I needed to see

[jade birch]

iirc all dr music is allowed just dispute the claim from materia collective and it'll auto-dispute

playstation all stars battle royale is a hard no (music owned by warner brothers and sony, never gonna happen)

[pseudo wren]

rip music

[tacit smelt]

reminder: topz f5 - f6, toif portal room

[last fiber]

this list makes absolutely no sense

[vocal wind]

sheets formatting is a pain in the ass

mb

[lean sigil]

bro nintendo is getting us a cease and desist letter because of ToTL

I afraid

[viral berry]

yo almost all 35 songs in cotaw are cooked

[south venture]

Remove the citadel atp and leave small mountain in instead

[zinc cloak]

yall forgetting all those musics can be replaced by apm music 😂 🎉

[pseudo wren]

wdym apm?

[zinc cloak]

yknow those free songs in the roblox library that you can use

[south venture]

Juke being inactive as owner is better management than this change occurring

[stark storm]

isnt using copyrighted music literally illegal?

[silent brook]

i mean it's good that now they're avoiding using copyrighted songs/songs they don't have perms to use

but damn

this should've been the default

8 YEARS AGO

[stark storm]

the game was never supposed to blow up like this and was just a project for fun

[south venture]

It has nothing to do with legal reasons

This change

[stark storm]

how

[south venture]

It’s about “respecting artists”

[stark storm]

im pretty sure they could get sued for doing this

[mossy oriole]

that would definitely never happen, but in the extremely rare case that it did they could just replace that song and thats it

[south venture]

They can’t, artist would have to go through roblox

[stark storm]

im definitely against this change but saying that jukecalla was better then this is a bit too far

[jade birch]

id rather find replacements for music than have the dev steal 1/3 of my income

just saying

[south venture]

Love this game but I really hope this pushes more players to explore other obby games

This is the worst change in the history of the game’s existence likely, CERTAINLY the worst since I started playing

[turbid oxide]

theres a simple solution to this

just dont submit your towers to etoh

then they will stay unknown and you will be free to do whatever you want forever

[clever mural]

Nah lore removal doomed it

Ngl

This ain't the worst but certainly one of the bad ones

[south venture]

Can u just straight up tell me if this is sarcasm

I can’t imagine a person without mental issues saying that unironically

[clever mural]

Lore seemed interesting ngl

Especially Laruam and the red city and the layers and such

It seemed so liminal

[south venture]

I mean I don’t disagree that it was interesting but it bled out into some really stupid things

Like tower points becoming “positive energy” or the owner of the game having the focus be on the story instead of obbies

[clever mural]

The billions of branching areas per ring was an odd thing but

[clever mural]

Honestly the focus being entirely on obbies is good and all but without something to keep it interesting it seems kinda copy and paste area wise

Including without the old OSTs

like the lore seemed original and would've made jtoh stand out from other stuff like atos etc

Like on another level

[south venture]

Atos is standout because it’s a great game with good tower selection

Totally doesn’t get its flowers at all

[valid gazelle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/happy-birthday-ayumu-kasuga

[clever mural]

Ig I like the idea of the guardians and their own areas, especially with how r9 is lore-based

Like story towers are good and all.. buuuuut

30 mins long

depressing

[south venture]

Tbh it would have been cool to see juke continue to work on these as, as bad as they were as owner (which is becoming comparable based on recent decisions by the current), they were an amazing scripter

[south venture]

R9 great example of how something like that could work imo actually

[clever mural]

Juke towers are peak

Perfect mix of classic and creative

[south venture]

Hell no they ain’t bruh FUCK ToO

[clever mural]

True

[south venture]

I’m hating tho I like their others tbh

[clever mural]

ToO is fun wdym

[clever mural]

cohad would be perfect without the insane length

[clever mural]

The current team still could, the lore has insane potential and is intriguing

It'd slow down other areas granted

But it'd add so much more depth

And the wasted potential is sad

Especially the new OSTs

For aeternitas and such

[south venture]

There HAS to be a way more specific reason they’re doing this

Other than “ethics and respect”

Because they explained that it was not due to legal reasons at all

So there has to be some other motive

[clever mural]

Well the PRS music got added back then removed again

In toca

So

[south venture]

ToCA music is a whole chronicle bro

[clever mural]

Ya

[south venture]

But, importantly, he (PRS) deliberately asked for it to be removed, so in an instance like that it should be absolutely

[clever mural]

It was removed then re-added by creator request then removed again

So what happened

[south venture]

PRS wanted the music gone

Idk why it was readded

I mean the prs music is way better than moter, but still

[jovial mountain]

Me when that one certain music based roblox game gets shutdown, because the staff were ignorant when the music artist told them to get rid of the song and owner blocked the artist in question, so the artist took legal action and took their roblox game down

be fr

but idk maybe im replying out of context and im dumb

its alright

imo an owner taking most of the funds for themselves behind everyone's backs is kindaaa worse than owner having to heavily set their game back so we don't lose 7+ years of culture and progress

[jovial mountain]

Maybe, but no one planned this game to get this big, obren wanted this game to die the first time ktoh was shutdown and same thing can be said about any roblox game ever that uses copyrighted songs in general

etoh isnt at gunpoint or anything like that just yet but we better like not lose everything due to any carelessness or odd managament choices over the years

id say were lucky no artist went out of their way to take serious action against this game for this long, i just wish etoh wasnt shackled by roblox and copyright rules (literally unachievable)

in the realm of reality

[south venture]

I said shortly after that in these situations of course remove the music

Idk what game you’re referring to btw

What are u referring to

[jovial mountain]

robeats has been killed

but idk if i wanna elaborate any further i dont wanna give anyone out there any ideas

im just gonna say that that's the consequence when staff ignore the wishes of artist when they specifically ask for their song to not be used in a game of such scale

we will survive this ordeal one way or the other

the point is, no one should go off and do anything drastic, we have to find a way to do what we can in this current situation by abiding by the current system

im not a builder but im seriously praying for everyone out there

[south venture]

You are speaking like we’re arguing when we seem to agree lol

[south venture]

They will just submit the towers to other games

Which would be healthy too, since other games would probably get some good towers

[jovial mountain]

that is also fair

[jovial mountain]

no im just scared someone really stupid will do something again that will harm this game

not talking about the staff or devs or anyone like that

just some drama makers

[south venture]

Like remove all of the music? Lol

[south venture]

Every time I say something about this community I get a warn so I can’t say anything

But I highly doubt that will happen

[jovial mountain]

i meant more like someone trying to intentionally try and get this game taken down

[south venture]

This announcement has drawn more attention to the usage of music than literally anything else in the game’s history

Even more than when roblox muted every game in 2023

[dry egret]

hi people

I am distraught

And i believe this will get reverted because

Cmon

Etoh is still niche

And

I say that towers are more of an art form

So like

Wouldn't using art ( music WITH CREDIT ) to enhance art ( towers ) be a good thing?

Think about how many artists you probably discovered

You prob didnt know about nanoray until SoVV and ToPB showed up

[south venture]

I was somewhat under the wrong impression but ultimately the goal is for the music to remain as close as possible to how it exists right now

[dry egret]

Nintendo is gonna fry us fr fr

[south venture]

Not even gonna lie etoh could prob use Nintendo music for eternity and probably would be safe forever

[dry egret]

How do we convince aetrnalis

[silent brook]

didn't they had to pay an artist like $800 worth of robux because of ToSRT f10

[dry egret]

Fuuck

Can't we just go back to slowly disallowing certain artists when they find out

We did it with PRS

[silent brook]

no this certain artist contacted the devs and demanded monetary compensation

[dry egret]

To keep it in

Right?

RIGHT?

I can't check wiki atm

Won't open

OH WHAT

Im confuses

Did the devs pay them AND remove it

Or were they asked to pay to keep it and just removed it

[silent brook]

hey guys

you can keep using w96 ❤️

i'm also waiting for a response from graham kartna as ToVH uses his music

specifically, using a coffee maker to boil hotdogs

on floor 1

[last fiber]

w96 such a goat bro

[prime panther]

notice: some of image used in artist database on sheet, link is expired (url with media.discordapp.net or cdn.discordapp.com)

[rancid zinc]

W96 is chill asf

[jovial mountain]

the goat

[dry egret]

Is everyone else though

That's the question

Cmon ts is just a niche roblox game hopefully they're as chill when they gave their stuff to gd 😭

WE NEEEED shirobon to stay

[last fiber]

when will it be added back tho???

[tidal tartan]

response from materia music

[dry egret]

NO SHOT

[proven mason]

Gulp…

[dry egret]

HOW DO WE GET THEM TO KNOW

THE DEVS I MEAN

We can genuinely keep undertale music if they say yes 😭

[tidal tartan]

i should dm the owner

they have the dms off ok

[dry egret]

Would this be a useless ping

[dry egret]

Do we ping aet

Would pushing the big purple button be a bad move.

[tidal tartan]

tried but i cant ping here

[dry egret]

Who can we ping

[tidal tartan]

uh idk

[dry egret]

Ill try this

Okay yeah I cant ping mods too

Forward this to tower development and pray we get the attention of others so it eventually reaches aet

[tidal tartan]

ok

alr i sent it

[ivory spoke]

yo i just found this thread
wasn't the community specfiic told NOT to reach out on behalf of the devs

[boreal vessel]

template taking too long

[ivory spoke]

fair it's been 5 days now

[boreal vessel]

for what does it need to reach aet

[tidal tartan]

oh i was stupid

you cant ping in threads

[craggy nymph]

Did you tell them its commercial

Or at least tell them its on roblox

[tidal tartan]

ok

[craggy nymph]

??

[tidal tartan]

i said its a roblox game called etoh

[craggy nymph]

Oh

[tidal tartan]

so yeah

[craggy nymph]

Well 99% chance they will ask for royalties xd

[tidal tartan]

ye lo

[dry egret]

I already went and

Contacted dubstep

Decayingghastly I mean

I think by now hes prob forwarded it to aet

[remote hemlock]

Im late to this but I thought they were gonna make new lore

keeping the old lore would have been cool but like I thought they were gonna at least have something lore wise

[clever mural]

nope

[craggy nymph]

yall acting like the old lore shit was ever gonna be finished lets be honest

[clever mural]

Eh it was still a good way to make things more interesting

Especially laruam

[craggy nymph]

creating a new investment in which only like 2 devs would be interested in doing in which the others would be COMPLETELY against alongside community pushback (the majority of people), motivation and compensation etc

quality control would also be pretty daunting

[clever mural]

Art ain't appreciated

[craggy nymph]

all that for something this game does not fundamentally need

[clever mural]

I think it's missing it personally

I mean we're still waiting on BG

[craggy nymph]

gotta replace 20 songs in cobg 🔥

[clever mural]

Fr, just get cyber to make a bunch more OSTs

Or get calico back fr

[clever mural]

Also how goes BG (now probably the longest running project?)

[craggy nymph]

ah yes the person notorious for leaking said project

[clever mural]

Indeed

[craggy nymph]

i dont hold anything against them im just making a joke lol

[clever mural]

But you gotta admit the z7 and 8 OSTs slapped hard

Especially 8

Ngl I loved the leitmotifs

[remote hemlock]

For me z8 and AT were my fav

Oh also SA

[remote hemlock]

Unfortunately yeah thats probably true

I didn’t know most of the staff and community were against it

I do hope the devs do something, cuz there is so much cool stuff that was set up that I feel you could make a cool story with

like ashen tower works

[clever mural]

Exactly

Like aeternitas

Don't get me wrong, the new areas are all good and that, but it just feels like etoh lacks soul and focus now

[dry egret]

Yeah actually why were they removed

Zone 8

Was fucking amazing

Was it per artist request

[carmine pelican]

e

[carmine pelican]

look at what I forwarded

[south venture]

Who contacted them

[last fiber]

those are the people that run undertale and deltarune right???

[brisk plover]

Is this copyright? https://youtu.be/UKX7dTRmcAU?si=MwNdC53p-owTiCj6

[last fiber]

son js use music who tf cares abt copyright besides these devs 🥀

[brisk plover]

Read the announcement https://discordapp.com/channels/551741409624064011/551786716030304277/1484718481898344628

"This applies to both in-game, and submission towers."

[last fiber]

ohhhhh for jtoh i thought you just meant in general

yeah i have no clue

tcm is used in literally everything so probably not

[dry egret]

Has anyone checked if adhesivewombat is okay with his music

Being used in monetised stuff

[lean sigil]

lowkenuinely

indie music artists are basically fine with music uses unless they signed with big corporations

so i think

ToWWW is safe probably

[silent brook]

it is very safe

[silent brook]

^

[south venture]

Anyone who is messaging artists right now should get a temporary ban

A form needs to be put together before we start doing this

Also not a fan of this thread existing and would delete it if possible until more stuff has been sorted out

Well I guess the thread is more than just for this situation so no issue there, but everything else still true

[dry egret]

I havent messaged anyone yet im just asking

I cant find adhesivewombat's music guideliness

😭

But yeah i

Agree with you

[south venture]

Someone messaged materia

[dry egret]

I mean

It seems to be going well?

I mean then there's the royalty thing

[south venture]

There has been no indication to me that there will be any sort of licensing deal occurring with anyone

As it would be unfair to contract with some label, materia for example, and not with another artist

[dry egret]

Just sayin

The template should've released with the announcement

Because the more I think about this the more I think that ts basically lowering our chances

[proven mason]

a warn at most lol a temp ban would be extreme

[south venture]

Just as a self preservative precaution, not even as a punitive action

Because that’s how you get people demanding payment or threatening legal action (which will not succeed) but it just ties up time

[fallow spear]

ToNN F1

[last fiber]

add club penguin to disney properties

[clever mural]

https://tenor.com/view/club-penguin-penguin-club-penguin-dance-dance-gif-27005719

[jade birch]

deltarune music and undertale music is fine by materia in yt, the claim is simply for analytical purposes

[south venture]

This is so different than what etoh does

You would be fine if the game was silent and you edited the music in to a YouTube vid of a completion

But etoh is a for profit game

I don’t think it would fall under that category. Uncertain, but I wouldn’t make that conclusion

[acoustic arch]

never seen so much bs, to me the classic towers feel souless, it's like an empty shell. Look at some of the tower in the z1 subrealm, the golf course steeple is genius idea, also tower of fly high. To me towers just became an experience to enjoy. The only thing I'm worried is not including harder towers in the game

harder than cata at least

[clever mural]

Let's perhaps read the above convo

Given that

Yk

It has nothing to do with the tower quality

And more to do with how the lore would've made etoh stand out properly

[clever mural]

And ngl the older areas feel more like jtoh than etoh does now

[acoustic arch]

I've read everything, how does lore have to do with anything

[clever mural]

My grievance with newer areas are that they're overdesigned

[clever mural]

Clearly not

[acoustic arch]

isn't that a good thing?

[clever mural]

Otherwise you'd see that the convo with the contributor was about how amazing the lore could've been and how fascinating the teasers we already had were

[clever mural]

Uh no

[acoustic arch]

I first played gd and to be fair I like my levels better when they have design

[clever mural]

Right ok, do you see the difference here?

'Design' is one thing

'Overdesign' is another

[acoustic arch]

gd levels are by definition over designed

some of the difficulty even comes from the design

[clever mural]

Design is good. However, it feels like every area since z10 has been pretty much the same in terms of the overall aesthetic and design style.

[acoustic arch]

To be fair I don't see a lot of towers that are over designed

[clever mural]

Ay carumba

Again

Nothing to do with current towers

[jade birch]

Tower Of Descent Into Exile

[clever mural]

More the design style of the areas themselves

[acoustic arch]

how is it overdeisgned

[jade birch]

look at it

[acoustic arch]

I did

[jade birch]

the detail is not needed it makes the tower impossible to sightread

[clever mural]

I wonder, however imo todie is a good example of an overdesigned tower

[clever mural]

Citeread

https://tenor.com/view/the-bonus-points-citation-needed-cite-your-sources-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-gif-15440958380910849244

[jade birch]

no its sightread

[clever mural]

Citeread

[jade birch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551797187734929418/1487852213387661322/attachment-1.gif

[acoustic arch]

well to be fair you're not supposed to sightread a catastrophic tower, and there are a lot of sightreadable parts

[clever mural]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-hmmm-thinking-one-second-let-me-think-gif-5454647

[acoustic arch]

https://gyazo.com/d42d2ef5efba547fb45dab686f1cfc7c.gif

[clever mural]

You cannot say that Aeternitas video wasn't mysteriously intriguing

[acoustic arch]

which video?

[jade birch]

lore is fine provided it's smth seperate from the towers

[clever mural]

Yea ok you don't know anything about the old lore

Look at that first pls

Then come back and tell

[acoustic arch]

yes I do not, but that has nothing to do with a tower/zones being souless...

[acoustic arch]

well to look at it you could provide me the link

[clever mural]

Again

Nothing

To

Do

With

Current

Towers

[acoustic arch]

so you're talking about the game itself?

[clever mural]

Maybe I worded it wrong but newer areas all feel the same

[acoustic arch]

how so

[clever mural]

(NOT THEIR TOWERS)

[clever mural]

Well let's look at tsa and aa

[acoustic arch]

Yeah I get that now

[clever mural]

Look at their design style

And tell me you don't see similarities

[acoustic arch]

what about it

[clever mural]

Like

Very obvious similarities

Same with z10

SSH slightly though not as much

Eh

In any case

[acoustic arch]

which similarities except studs textures?

[clever mural]

The zones in particular are an example of peak jtoh differentiation

[acoustic arch]

I think they look unique but like all areas of etoh they do have the same "design"

[clever mural]

Eh might be also to do with the OSTs but

In any case

Both heavily designed to the point where it no longer feels like jtoh

Eh just my opinion

[acoustic arch]

well my point was just that I get tired of people saying etoh is doomed/souless/ it's lost it's direction (not you but many people)

[clever mural]

In any case my main grievance is the lore

[acoustic arch]

tbf I prefer etoh era than jtoh era

[acoustic arch]

but like they said earlier in the conv, didn't se talk about a new lore?

it might be good or even better than the old lore

with cobg coming out we could get new lore

[clever mural]

You wanna talk about lost direction? The time lost area is getting more work than the big revamps/area releases and it's not even time to release a time lost area yet

[clever mural]

Yea probably not

I'd hope so

Given that errlich's still made lore-related stuff

[clever mural]

The guardians were fine gng 🥀

Like they were a good idea

[acoustic arch]

it was too stretched of an idea, and much more work

than they could handle

they're a small team

[clever mural]

True, but in any case it just felt right

It no longer feels right

Also side note

Aet said etoh won't be named after any one owner

[acoustic arch]

that's true I just saw that on trello, They usually didn't do that which is weird, ring 9 revamp is more important

[clever mural]

Coincidence that aet (aeternalis, pronounced eternalis) matches up to 'eternal' towers of hell

[clever mural]

Another unnecessary thing: hiding dev project progress

Like gng biotech genesis is now the longest running unreleased project

[acoustic arch]

it's to hide that they're not working on it

prob

[clever mural]

I'd say they are but they're like... the biggest things in jtoh history, why hide the progress and once again cut off the community

Like tower selections are already not community picked

[acoustic arch]

and just noticed era 1 and the final stretch is now in unknown wtf

[clever mural]

2067

[acoustic arch]

it's been a long time since I checked trello

damn

what are they doing

[clever mural]

Idk atp

Like

Just show the progress like everything else

And ffs stop removing good shit from old jtoh

[acoustic arch]

like what

[clever mural]

I mean they revamped the old areas which are the last remnants

And now they're revamping r9 which is already perfect

It even has elements of the lore

Like

Just keep shit as is

I can understand older lobby revamps but

Removing certain secrets

Removing the calico OSTs

Etc

[acoustic arch]

r9 is like the ugliest area in the game with z2 I can't agree with that

[rancid zinc]

i would assume they are revamping it cause it has scrapped lore that juke made (TC is mentioned in ring 9)

[clever mural]

[rancid zinc]

cause they want to remove almost anything related to jukes lore

[clever mural]

IT'S PEAK THOUGH

THE LORE MAKES IT GOOD

[rancid zinc]

too bad its scapped tho

:c

[clever mural]

It's dumb

Like

Stop removing peak shit

[rancid zinc]

they could had made the lore better

[acoustic arch]

this was understandable

[clever mural]

I liked the idea of laruam especially

[rancid zinc]

even tho the lore is crazy there 1 thingg that makes it weird

[clever mural]

So calico didn't get paid, leaked BG and now the songs were removed out of pettiness?

[rancid zinc]

there a potion that makes jtoh charaters 18 years old

i cant say this is 100% true because one of my friend told me

but its kinda weird

[clever mural]

I saw pics of a possible bg entrance from ages ago

And I liked the idea of the shadows and the layers and aeternitas

[rancid zinc]

i only know ToO lore line of the juke lore rn idk the other stuff

because there a mode in ToO to unlock dev log and lore log

its pretty cool

[acoustic arch]

many people weren't paid, calico was the only one who leaked things, how can you work with someone that leaks projects in big corporations you can get fined

[clever mural]

Yea

[clever mural]

ToO is peaakkkkk same with toai

[acoustic arch]

also what's the video that's about the lore

I wanna watch it

[clever mural]

Doesn't mean gotta remove peak OSTs

[acoustic arch]

I know they were peak but

that's their decisions

[clever mural]

Especially the leitmotifs

[acoustic arch]

and cyber OST are also peak so it's not that bad of a change

[clever mural]

Eh

Some are

Not all

[acoustic arch]

so what's the name of the lore video 😭 tell me

[clever mural]

It's the OSTs for lore-related stuff

[acoustic arch]

all of them are peak but that's my opinion

[clever mural]

E.g. bg and laruam

[acoustic arch]

no earlier you told me I knew nothing about the lore and told me to watch a vid

what's the vid

[clever mural]

Yeah that's the OSTs for them

I mean you can also look at the wiki

[acoustic arch]

isn't there a video that summarize it

[clever mural]

?

Who knows

Maybe there is

[acoustic arch]

this

[clever mural]

Idk

[acoustic arch]

well I gtg

have a good day

[clever mural]

Gone now

[copper cedar]

CoOTWI F3-4

[south venture]

Ur not him bro

[upbeat summit]

SoJT(M) the second to last floor

[dusk aspen]

submit them to atos instead

[viscid stirrup]

is the copyright thing in place now?

[upbeat summit]

basically all of ToCLSN(M)

[viscid stirrup]

SoBBQ entire tower

[kind palm]

the copyright rule screwed over all the music unfortunately, I wouldn’t expect the music for it to get restored in its current state (it’s super omega copyrighted)

[unkempt glade]

I'm surprised no action has been taken for the amount of bypassed audios this game uses

[viscid stirrup]

other towers still have it intact, also jsut keep the music in until the artist confirms

[kind palm]

they didn’t wanna deal with it for new additions

Trust me I’d want music restored too but it just isn’t realistic to expect this rn

[primal acorn]

SoBBQ(M) F1

SoBBQ(M) F2

SoBBQ(M) F3

SoBBQ(M) F4

SoBBQ(M) F5

yeah the entire tower has copyrighted music D:

and SoBBQ(M) F6

[kind palm]

the only floor “confirmed” to not be copyrighted is f3 so I guess theoretically they could restore it but it doesn’t matter anyway since it was supposed to have entirely new songs

[primal acorn]

SoES F6 (Begmudda Triangle)

[viscid stirrup]

i swear i heard someone say undertale/deltarune is fine

wait

dont artists/labels have the right to get their audios taken down, ive seen some audios have to be removed far earlier due to copyright

[plush ermine]

they do thats why the thing is happening

[clever mural]

Tower of Comically Silent Sewing Needle

[dry egret]

This update sucks just leave the music in until its rolled out

Chances are

This is getting rolled out 2028

[rocky thistle]

ToDC(C) f1

[primal acorn]

ToCLSN(M) F1

ToCLSN(M) F2

ToCLSN(M) F3

[dry egret]

I dont think any music is getting restored even if its

Yknow

UGHHHH ive never hated a good deed more than now.

[primal acorn]

its been gone for a while now

[south venture]

They are gonna try to make etoh sign a licensing agreement

[pseudo wren]

CoOTWI f3-4

[primal acorn]

ToMI(M) F4

[chrome latch]

i'm in a server with graham kartna i could ping him about this if you'd like

[silent brook]

at this point i've now gone back to waiting for the template (i don't know how long it's gonna take), but that would be appreciated i guess

[chrome latch]

aight

[south venture]

They broke the music UI

It takes up half the screen

[zinc cloak]

me:ok

[drowsy swan]

still broken :P

[nocturne bloom]

THANK YOU FOR FIXING THE MUSIC UI THANK YOUUUU

FINALLY IT DOESNT COVER THE JUMP BUTTON

[tidal tartan]

what song is allowed?

[silent brook]

if he said it's fine and specified nothing it's probably his entire library

[south venture]

Who told u go ahead and do this

[south venture]

Everybody goes quiet once I ask that question seemingly…

[thorn carbon]

#announcements message

[main skiff]

grathm kartha my goat

[main skiff]

he always say that he lets anyone use his music with credit

[silent brook]

hi it was midnight when you sent that

yes, admittedly, i shouldn't have done this and instead waited for the template (which i did after sending this singular email), but the email i sent shouldn't have been too unprofessional, and should have covered most of how the game works

[south venture]

That was before this announcement

Mega genius

[viral berry]

like every song on toclsn(m)

[silent brook]

perhaps we weren't as fried as we thought

the artist whitelist has a lot of artists i've never heard of before

[dry egret]

Someone shoulddd

Try asking nanoray

And camellia

[south venture]

We are fried because now we have the new UI

[silent brook]

i'm personally not bothered by it 🤷‍♀️

[plush ermine]

its better

[daring fern]

ToIV(M) F7, F8-9, F10 are copyrighted

[south venture]

I haven’t played since they added it

[viscid stirrup]

whats wrong with it

also

why is undertale "denied" if i thought those tracks were suppsoed to be free

also half of the "proof" images are blocked in the UK

[dry egret]

Materia

[viscid stirrup]

i also cannot view licensing terms because they are blocked in the UK

[silent brook]

is imgur blocked??

[viscid stirrup]

in the UK yes as of a few months

[silent brook]

oh what the fuck UK are we serious right now

[viscid stirrup]

just getting everything banned right now

[jovial mountain]

archaic ass landmass

[dry egret]

Camellia denied etoh.

We

Are so fucked

Why gd and not us man :(

[viscid stirrup]

at least windows96 is approved, but i cant view the proof because its blocked in the UK

[merry gate]

is there a better image hosting platform that isnt imgur

because id gladly use whatever that would be instead lol

[dry egret]

File garden

Try that one

[viscid stirrup]

well devs are not going to know its blocked and doubt they would be fully willing to change if its one place

its like moving the game to brick hill (roblox clone) because roblox is blocked in north korea

[merry gate]

Bro im literally a dev i manage the sheet its not that hard to do

[merry gate]

ty

[viscid stirrup]

ah sorry thought you were a random player

[merry gate]

ur good dw

[silent brook]

well nothing is truly non-commercial in roblox because you get robux from playtime

[dry egret]

NONO WAIT

LET ME HOPEMAX HERE

at the moment

WE PLAY THE WAITING GAME, FOLKS.

[silent brook]

read the rest of the email dawg he stated that the main dev team (aka EToH) would still have to pay for the usage rights

[dry egret]

oh

i mean

To own it permanently right?

[silent brook]

i guess

[dry egret]

Wouldnt they have the funding for that or is that asking for too much.

[silent brook]

might be asking for too much idrk

[dry egret]

im just gonna assume the funds they got are in the

Ten thousands - Hundred thousands

Which... 800 usd to use one song..

[silent brook]

anyways i'm just glad that both of my favorite artists are in the whitelist (w96 and graham kartna)

[dry egret]

MAN... robtop how did you do it

[silent brook]

custom levels in any rhythm games are non-commercial

their situation is very different from us

[dry egret]

I pray these following artists are allowed:

Or well

Allow etoh to use their shit

Adhesivewombat

Schtiffles

Shirobon

And nanoray

[silent brook]

contact them yourself we have the template now

[dry egret]

Im gonna do that right now actually

Okay where does one find an artist's email

I cant find schtiffles's

[merry gate]

Usually artists will list it on their website or twitter account

But most of the time you will just have to search thru their socials

If they have a twitter and you can’t find an email you can also just dm them thru twitter

Thats acceptable too

[dry egret]

I dont have a twitter account nor do i want to make one

HOWEVER

schtiffles has their

Discord account public

[dry egret]

Is that acceptable too?

[merry gate]

Yeah thats fine

[dry egret]

Theyd have to

Accept my friend request

X_x

[merry gate]

Rip

[dry egret]

Also shouldnt waterflame also be in the whitelist?

He KNOWS that his music is in togf

And by extension epic minigames

Which

Is a cesspool of waterflame

[merry gate]

Artists have to know we’re commercial before and know how their music would be used before we can whitelist them

Waterflame’s work are under cc non commercial license iirc so they probably think etoh is a non-commercial indie game on roblox and nothing more

Im prob sure though they would be fine with having their songs in etoh though if contacted due to that and prior knowledge

Just note they mentioned it as jtoh and might either not remember what that game was since its been a long time a bit and also they could confuse etoh to be a different game than jtoh

[dry egret]

i see

Thats understandable

[west ocean]

i was not ready for camellia to deny

that kills like 4 songs in tores

[merry gate]

Rip

[merry gate]

BTW if anyone is seeing this and wishes to message waterflame, i would probably recommend adding JToH next to all mentions of EToH in the template (so like JToH/EToH)

or actually no it would probably be better to just mention once "(formerly JToH - Juke's Towers of Hell)"

[dry egret]

Lets be so fr no one was

They play SUCH a big part in

Towers like ToHR

[merry gate]

Luckily I do know a lot of other artists that do compose full flavor-ish music like camellia but they would also require permission

[dry egret]

Win!

Casts 5000 blessings

[merry gate]

theyd defo be more open though for permission as theyre *NOT as big as camellia

[dry egret]

So they say yes

[merry gate]

tn-shi I think was contacted already but they have a similar style

others include kyutatsuki for more speedcore full flavor

and kanemiko for more of a single focus on a genre but still rhythm gamey

[dry egret]

OOH WAIT

Mindvacy

[merry gate]

[dry egret]

i think youve

Prob listened to some of their stuff right

[merry gate]

No LOL

but I believe u

they must be peam

[dry egret]

ill send one of their songs here

Its

Breakcore btw

https://youtu.be/BwCC5jaAlqI?si=vtgxcxYeQNh-UpTx

I will reach out to them right now actually

[merry gate]

Awsome

lowk happy we got the big three of breakcore artists whitelisted tho

Sewerslvt, glitchtrode, and llwll are some of my fav breakcore artists

and theyre avialable for use

[dry egret]

Its insane how

Miracle musical is public domain too

[merry gate]

Yea

[dry egret]

Man these thoughts really are limitless light.

UGHHHHH

i couldnt find their email counter: 2

So i went to their bandcamp

[west ocean]

has anyone contacted meganeko btw

[dry egret]

Arx how can i

Shorten this darn message

For bandcamp to send ts

Wtf bandcamp

[merry gate]

I can try to make a shortened version

The most important details to mention are how we are commercial, how their music would be used and credited, and how community based etoh is

[merry gate]

Idk

I wish there was a way to track whos been contacted already and waiting for

I brought the issue and a potential solution up before template was released to aet before but it got turned down for a reason I agree with

[plush ermine]

who is this

[placid pumice]

did celeste music all get deleted