#Is disabling nukes supposed to disabled Legion's 'safe geo' and the T2 multirole antinuke ships?

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karmic ice
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As title - I played with nukes disabled today and it affected the above in different factions... Feels like an oversight?

obsidian hull
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Doesn't the safe geo not explode in general when destroyed? Legions just also has an AntiNuke slapped ontop

karmic vault
obsidian hull
# karmic vault I think you misunderstood. He means that disabling nukes ~~antinukes~~ also disa...

I do understand that. My point is that the only common denominator between safe geos and nukes is that one of the 3 has an anti-nuke. The point of safe geos is that it doesn't explode (as big as a normal geo would). It's just legion that also has the AntiNuke slapped ontop. I could understand the suggestion to disable the AntiNuke functionality from the building though, if nukes are disabled

karmic vault
obsidian hull
karmic ice
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Don't know if I'm right here or explained myself well, @karmic vault and @obsidian hull, but maybe if I put my idea of the practical change here it will be clearer:

  • If I disable Anti Nukes, it should disable the Anti Nuke building entirely and the functionality of an Anti Nuke in the T2 Multirole Navals and T2 Legion 'Safe Geo', but allow the latter bulding and ships to still be built.
  • If I disable Nukes, it should disable the Nuke Launcher building, and as the above.
    And the problem:
  • Whereas currently, I can't make the T2 multirole ships or the Legion 'Safe Geo', which kinda indirectly nerfs Naval and Legion in water and geothermal ckrcumstances.
    This is what I would expect the behaviour of the setting to be.
    Wherher I am disabling Nukes or Anti Nukes, the problem is still there, right?
obsidian hull
karmic ice
primal token
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Except the "No Nukes" option just disables both

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i'm pretty sure there's some exceptions list in alldefs_post

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let me check

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it used to be a problem with armada and cortex ships

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nevermind there's no exceptions

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but adding an exceptions list is easy

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soooo just need someone to provide a list

karmic ice
primal token
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list of code names of units

karmic ice
# primal token list of code names of units

Are they these? ^^

  • "corantiship": "Oasis" [weird name difference here?]
  • "armantiship": "Mobile Anti-Nuke, Generator, and Radar/Sonar" *
  • "legrampart": "Geothermal Antinuke, Jammer, Radar and Drone Platform"
  • "leganavyantinukecarrier": "Anti-nuke Drone Carrier Support Ship",
    I can't think ofany others - I don't recall if Legion has an AntiNuke ship?
obsidian hull
karmic ice
primal token
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lemme push that then

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if we find any more, we can just add them to the list later

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actually

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maybe it's better to do it as customparameter

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then tweakdefs can also use it

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....

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wait a second

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noantinukes is a separate modoption?

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why tf

karmic ice
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For glorious cold war games, Comrade
I would assume anyway (if I understood)

primal token
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so the funny thing is

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the noantinuke modoption has piece of code that makes the radar ships not get blocked

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but the nonuke modoption does not

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lmao

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and it's actually removing the antinuke from that ship

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who came up with this sorcery

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wasn't me for sure

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that complicates things

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-remindme 16h dive deep into this thing

cedar mangoBOT
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Set a reminder in 16 hours from now (<t:1774433952:f>)
View reminders with the reminders command

karmic ice
cedar mangoBOT
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Reminder for @primal token

Reminder from YAGPDB

dive deep into this thing

primal token
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Soooo

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I went full on this and restructured all restriction modoptions that used explicit whitelist/blacklist while at it.

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@karmic ice UwU

karmic ice
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That's amazing. You're amazing.

Is this pushed to the game already or is it a change that's pending review/release?

primal token
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it's merged but updates need a Stable release

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sooo whenever that happens

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usually every 2-3 days

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sometimes daily if Floris is working on something lol

primal token
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it's now trivial to whitelist/blacklist them for each option

karmic ice
primal token
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it's live

karmic ice
karmic vault
primal token
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why the fuck are there SPADS configs for this

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nuke it all

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lol

karmic vault