#wall with minelayer

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toxic bane
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is it bug when i dont have metal minelayer just skipping walls? with cons it dont get skip

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worldly robin
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Minelayers can't assist other builder. This is probably an unintended consequence of that.

icy lake
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And you didn't give any commands to it yourself after starting the walls?

As there's another thread about this, I guess not, and there's some change in how stalling/priority/whatever is handled

toxic bane
toxic bane
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can it get fixed before bpl start op

icy lake
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Hard to say when we got no clue yet, of whats causing this. I'd guess it's smth simple once the cause is spotted

worldly robin
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Could just let them assist build? #🔒｜dev-discussion message

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Not a bug fix but avoids it happening. Due to their terrible bp I don't see it causing any major issues?

toxic bane
woven karma
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I'd second the change to build assist. But, once the bug is found.

toxic bane
brittle wharf
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This is a really old problem that has been going on for about six months now.

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at some point something went wrong

lament iron
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this has been happening to me too

worldly robin
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I've put in a request for the half arsed fix of just letting minelayers assist. That doesn't completely solve the issue that is a complex communication issue in multiplayer with a build order clearing widget.

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But it should reduce the impact a lot, as few people report seeing the bug with builders that can assist (like it can happen with twitchers, commandos, decoy coms, but far far less often.

woven karma
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We do know the bug (Doo know the bug) so I'm happy with changing minelayers like you suggest

stone river
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Is this the source of mex skipping bug

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People were noting half built mexes by cons on a queue, some mexes in the queue seem to get dropped and disappear

woven karma
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No, this is an issue unique to builders that cannot build-assist

frosty mantle
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I have issues with minelayers skipping mines as well

atomic spade
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Why would mine layers be allowed to assist build, especially other cons. That just doesnt make sense to me

worldly robin
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When this gets a proper fix engine side then it could be reverted.

atomic spade
worldly robin
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T1 vehicles are probably still better m/Bp if you factor in the E make.

atomic spade
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Its like 60m 1000e for 40bp + stealth + jammer + juno. With all the rovers going around i would probably build one with every con on open maps

worldly robin
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Sounds good to me 😊

woven karma
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If anything, it's very strange that there is only one kind of builder that cannot build-assist (okay technically factories and drone spawners)

worldly robin
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(minelayers also weirdly can't reclaim. But balance. They also don't have juno and rovers don't have radar, FYI)

woven karma
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Yeah I didn't totally follow some of the other reasoning here

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Minelayers helping each other means, at most, that we get more forward mine fields. Which I see as a good thing.

worldly robin
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I guess now one unintended effect is them being hit by factory guard?

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But I don't see many people spamming them at the front for the minesweeper ability.

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And you can always turn off factory guard.

opal wharf
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@copper hazel

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this what you see?

copper hazel
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yeaaah

woven karma
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Do we have minelayer problems?

copper hazel
woven karma
copper hazel
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the assisting

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the bug is in main

woven karma
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Ah thank goodness. I thought we'd hardcoded even more unitdef stuff, somewhere.

opal wharf
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Oh right, this isn't deployed yet

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Apologies!

woven karma
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np np