Minchev and Minrating should be 'majority' votes, not 75%.

[neon orbit]

• maxchev / maxrating, but title already pretty long.

In a 16/16 lobby, you need 12 'yes' votes to pass these currently. If literally anyone is afk or votes no, the vote is essentially impossible to pass.

This leaves a lot of toxic scenarios where you have someone forcing themselves upon a lobby they don't belong in or causing massive imbalances.

Whether this is some high rated player (or two) trying to curbstomp a noob lobby, a low OS in a lobby way out of their skill range, or a 1 chev (frequently smurfing), if a majority of the lobby is capable of kickbanning -- why can't the same majority change the ratings?

It's the same thing except more vote spam / more steps. Not to mention applying the setting to the whole lobby is a lot less personal than just kicking a noob.

I've been kicked from noob lobbies just for winng too hard/too fast, and it isn't a massive slight.

This is a similar line of thinking as #1407278591963693057 but massive mismatches are probably the #1 cause of toxicity in the game.

Problem is exacerbated by a lot of people's toxic positivity, as basically any one person can completely block these votes.

[fast solar]

if the lobby lets them in with the settings as they already are then definitionally they are not forcing themselves upon a lobby tho

you said it yourself in the post anyway chev and rating don't tell you much about if there's gonna be a skill imbalance due to smurfs and new players starting with too high os and whatever else lol

ngl the idea of being in a noob lobby, then as half the players filter out at the end of the game, a stack of friends join and narrowly pass a vote to set the min rating to 15 and kick a bunch of players out who had been happily playing in the lobby before that sounds stupid to me.

[neon orbit]

"if the lobby lets them in with the settings as they already are then definitionally they are not forcing themselves upon a lobby tho"
lack of preemptively setting up a hard block doesnt mean that the lobby is appropriate for you. When a min/max vote is put up, people don't vote to kick themselves.

"you said it yourself in the post anyway chev and rating don't tell you much about if there's gonna be a skill imbalance due to smurfs and new players starting with too high os and whatever else lol"

I in no way said this, and this is a really ridiculous thing to say.

"ngl the idea of being in a noob lobby, then as half the players filter out at the end of the game, a stack of friends join and narrowly pass a vote to set the min rating to 15 and kick a bunch of players out who had been happily playing in the lobby before that sounds stupid to me."

still requires over half the lobby to agree. these players can just kick the person as-is anyways.

also a lot of games end and then the noob gets kicked, or kicked midgame. why not just set the lobby up for success in the first place?

[fast solar]

typically i'd argue back but ur clearly going to engage in bad faith lol since ur advocating for toxic behavior in lobbies now

[neon orbit]

you're not going to argue because you can't. other than saying something completely idiotic like 'chev and rating don't tell you much'

[fast solar]

lol

[neon orbit]

you're a pretty prime example of what I mean by the community's "toxic positivity"

having standards isn't toxic. there's nothing wrong with not wanting to play with brand new or bad players if you're experienced.

same as new players putting maxrating on a lobby. it's not toxic, despite disenfranchizing me.

[fast solar]

lmao

that's what the create lobby button is for

[woeful quarry]

Don't get baited into arguing Mr threadmaker

I think this is worth taking a look at idk