formal prairie
Half the repair and rez speed so wreck battles take place over a longer time
Rez bot is integral unit to virtually every unit comp at every stage of the game. when you make a comp without it past the early game you feel crippled
I see stupid things like 25 rez bots repairing or rezzing a cerb in 12 seconds
formal prairie
Idea: Half repair/reclaim/rez rate to make wreck battles last longer
frail smelt
I went through PR's that touched rezbots a while ago, as such
A complete history of rezbots reclaim
2011-04-04 Beherith
Initial upload
2011-4-23 Niobium
Simplified unit file layout to ease automation
2016-11-06 Ruwetuin
all unit energy and metal prices rounded
2017-09-24 Fx-Doo
reduced repair/rez speed (-25%), reduced reclaimspeed(-50% before global 30% nerf) and increased HP 70%
2017-10-10 gYanBasic
Reduced rez bot hp a bit from 340 to 300(stil up by 100 hp from old rez). Reduced rezbot ressurection and repair powers compared to reclaim powers by 15%. Removed 15% speed nerf(now back to being fast). Rez are now the best reclaimers for cost, the best repairers for cost can ressurect and have decent hp. Nerfed sea transport hp by 20%(still has tons of hp). Increased the missile ship aa's damage. Added very weak aa to scouts.
2017-11-03 Fx-Doo
revert workertime to the first nerf: 85 -> 150 (9.46 = 200)
2019-01-22 Ruwetuin
Restored 9.46 rezbot health 250->200 and 'buildpower' 150->200
late junco
150 bp is more than fair tbh
severe bloom
Why are we trying to slow down the pace of the game? Whats the benefit?
And reduce skill cap at the same time?
late junco
when rezbot can eat up a wreck field quickly it makes it super volatile because you just need a short term advantage to control it
severe bloom
when rezbot can eat up a wreck field quickly it makes it super volatile because ...
Which comes down to skill. Which is a good thing.
Skill = preplanning.
late junco
you can easily argue it the other way, being able to leverage an existing advantage to retake the wreck field is more rewarding
than coin flipping on a close fight
severe bloom
Idk. Slowing down the gameplay of a game is usually a death sentence for a game.
Coin flipping happens sub 30 os. It doesn't happen as much about 30 os. Coin flipping will always happen at lower skill levels. You don't balance your game to the lowest skill.
late junco
I don't think so, there's always elements of chance in the game
chrome quartz
the rate at which metal is reclaimed is kinnda absurd
like 5 rezbots eating some rich wreck will outpreform your entire aconv/afus eco
by like alot
I think that if wreck fields stayed contested for longer you could make more plays around that, which increases the skill
formal prairie
having rez bots ready and keeping them alive is tactics
seeing a reclaim field and having to hold it for 60 seconds while your team reclaims it --- reacting to if the opponent team shows up with even more force, or pushes the other lane while you are busy -- that is strategy
worthy creek
I'm on two minds about rezbots. On one hand I think it would be better balance if we nerf resurrecting. On the other hand I think resurrecting units is such a cool and unique BAR mechanic that sets us apart from other RTS games, and as such I want it to be a bit OP just to keep it as something players know us for.
formal prairie
rez subs exist as a much more toned down version of rez bots
if you need some reference
they are strong but costly and take time to do their job
so much so that it is seldom that you are rezzing units in your opponent's face (as is common with rez bots lol)
late junco
I'm on two minds about rezbots. On one hand I think it would be better balance i...
just the reclaim and repair are kind of op because of the speed
like it's better bp value than a con turret but is faster than all land constructors
worthy creek
We recently nerfed rezbot cost a bit by the way. The idea was that if we nerfed rezspeed you would just make 200 rezbots to pick up t3 units instead of 100 rezbots. 100 rezbots bunched up already looks a bit silly so it made more sense to do it this way.
balmy holly
Rezz bot seem fine in large team game, idk about 1v1 but having 20k brute wreck fields looks to be more the issue to me than rezz bots being too op