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I've tried renaming one of my drives in disk management to the old directory it was working for, and now I get this and there's no logs in the "launcher-logs"
#Broken launcher update
worn otter
Ok, I have no clue in what state of brokeness all of this is, we can try to untangle it, but I believe much safer option will be to purge everything with fire and do clean install
lime lintel
Well, I've uninstalled, but failed to re-install
I still have a copy of the old files so nothing is lost
worn otter
So:
- Make sure you removed application from windows. When you search in windows in the settings, bar should not show up
- Stash the copy you have around (some selection of files in
data), whatever settings you had in old place - Install something like https://www.voidtools.com/ search for beyond, Beyond etc and purge all files you can find
- Set up windows in some way you want
- Do a reboot just to be sure
- Download the installer from the website, to make sure it's one of the latest ones and not some old broken version
- Run installer, in the installer will allow you to pick the location you want it to be
- Let launcher run and install everything, as last step it will try to update itself (link on website is not updated yet, a bit on purpose, will hapen in the afternoon), let it update, update should end up in the same directory as it was
lime lintel
So:
1. Make sure you removed application from windows. When you search in window...
I'm not getting past step 1. Step 1 is removing the new install location and that's it. I have to manually remove the old one (the one that I use)
Beyond all reason does not show in the program and files window despite having a working copy installed
worn otter
Beyond all reason does not show in the program and files window despite having a...
That's why step 3
lime lintel
I can manually put it somewhere else and thats it
worn otter
Step 1 is to make sure that it's not longer marged as installed in windows registry
step 2 is so you have backup
step 3 is to delete every single copy of bar there is on your disk, so that when we do step 7, there is only one around
For step 3 unfortunatelly external tool is needed because windows file search just doesn't work and sucks
lime lintel
What is step 4
Set up windows....?
man, I'm going to need to postpone this, what a hassle
hollow basalt
Open them if it's nice outside, otherwise close them.
lime lintel
Will do 👍
worn otter
Set up windows....?
You did some drive renaming etc, do it then if you still want to
just if you want to do anything with drive leters, do it then
if not, then not
worn otter
man, I'm going to need to postpone this, what a hassle
You got extended unfu*** up guide just to be sure
lime lintel
I see....
hollow basalt
You got extended unfu*** up guide just to be sure
Do you think that could be a good text macro, $text fubar or some such?
worn otter
Do you think that could be a good text macro, $text fubar or some such?
Not sure, maybe, overall, would be good but never enough time to write github wiki page with different failure scenarios and what to do
ornate rain
Not sure if appending on this post is the right place, but I just hit a BSOD when attempting to update the launcher
I've uploaded a log (I think)
hollow basalt
Not sure if appending on this post is the right place, but I just hit a BSOD whe...
Make a new post and link the log
-uplog
glad rockBOT
lime lintel
8. Let launcher run and install everything, as last step it will try to update i...
I got to number 8, and the updater chose the wrong location again. The updater will not use user>appdata>local directory. Again, just like before, it created a 2nd install. All this for nothing...
I'm just going to try and transfer all my settings and custom stuff to the new location. What a waste.
worn otter
I got to number 8, and the updater chose the wrong location again. The updater *...
Where did it create the 2nd install?
Can you please upload log file here from launcher-logs directory in both old and new installation?
lime lintel
Where did it create the 2nd install?
Not home at the moment, but it got created in C:\programs in the drive I renamed, because the updater wasn't working otherwise
They're both new instalations, are you referring to the copy I freshly installed before the updater as the old one?
The initial install doesn't let me choose a specific directory. It has the options "install for all users" and "install for only this user" or something along those lines. The updater does not work if you select "for this user only." I reproduced this twice.
Try it yourself!
To clarify, when I say "does not work", I mean it does not try to update the existing install that is placed in users>local>programs
I don't know if this matters, because it really shouldn't, but I swap OS's regularly, and I don't boot from my "main" drive. The users>local directory is on a drive I'm not always booting from.
I can't imagine this matters in any way shape or form. Just extra info.
worn otter
Try it yourself!
A bunch of installs and uninstalls as user and for all users from the previous version and letting it update in different orders. Effectively all works as expectected with only a bit weird behavior when there exist 2 installs at the same time, but just doing uninstall and install fixes all of that as expected.
I can't do more testing then that, if there is any bug or anything, I need steps to reproduce, because in all my testing (and I've done more before, this time did again just to record it and again all just worked)
lime lintel
Wait a second. The 3rd copy you installed to users. After you run the updater, the directory got changed to c>programs
worn otter
That's what I described as "only a bit weird behavior when there exist 2 installs at the same time, but just doing uninstall and install fixes all"
Basically when you do install, and then install. Then update might not work correctly: that is expected
But doing uninstall, fixes all of that
lime lintel
I uninstslled everything. This behavior happened to me on 1st install after following your steps above.
worn otter
As seen on video
Well, I need steps to reproduce 🤷♂️ because as you see, it works for me
lime lintel
No matter what I do, the updater creates a copy of the game in C>programs
I cannot get it to do anything else
Doesn't matter where I install to initially, updater will always go to c programs
Even if c programs doesn't exist it still looks for it
worn otter
I'm sorry, but I can't reproduce the behaviour. The only additional thing you can do is again remove everything and in addition to that also remove everything related to bar from windows registry: I've never done it myself, so can't guide you through that
But I'm blind here
lime lintel
Can a network drive be messing it up?
worn otter
Maybe? I don't know, i don't have one, can't test on one
I don't think so but at this point who knows
lime lintel
Well, I can't test anything at the moment, so it's all just talk
worn otter
Note also that bar devs are not authors of that installer, we use it as library, we just configure it and can test. I've fixed one bug upstream there in the past, but we aren't familiar deeply with that code and all different ways it can break, and you seem to hit some super weird edge case
lime lintel
If I encountered a problem like this elsewhere, I'd be tempted to call it user error. But this is the first time I've had something like this happen with any software.
Well, it's not the first time, this has happened multiple times, just only with BAR.
orchid spruce
one thing you can try:
in registry, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software, find a weird named folder like a5671b31-085d-5fba-830a-66a891c6a4a4, there should be a key with bar install location
delete that registry folder
lime lintel
one thing you can try:
in registry, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software, find a wei...
I don't have this folder, or any folder named like it
orchid spruce
try finding something that has bar install location
lime lintel
in current user software?
orchid spruce
yeah
lime lintel
I don't see BAR
orchid spruce
i.e. i have something like that
lime lintel
orchid spruce
just try looking if any folder has these keys
lime lintel
I don't see it
orchid spruce
ok, i think there is a search function
try searching for folder name where it tries to install to
orchid spruce
i don't think thats what you need
lime lintel
that's where it's installed to
orchid spruce
ok i did a fresh install gimme a sec
try HKEY_USERS/some long string/Software/a5671b31-085d-5fba-830a-66a891c6a4a4
orchid spruce
does it say that for you?
lime lintel
yeah
orchid spruce
weird it should be there
orchid spruce
try HKEY_USERS/some long string/Software/a5671b31-085d-5fba-830a-66a891c6a4a4
nothing there?
lime lintel
under users > user > software? nope
I can see pretty much everything else I have installed to user
orchid spruce
do you have multiple folders in hkey_user?
lime lintel
yes, the others didn't have much though
orchid spruce
try running regedit under admin and search for folder name again
lime lintel
looks the same
orchid spruce
there's this
ok maybe delete that one maybe
lime lintel
I searched "beyond" in the registry, only came up with a bunch of stuff from notepad++ and "classes" folder
orchid spruce
there's this
have you deleted that one?
lime lintel
should I?
orchid spruce
yeah
lime lintel
Alright now what
orchid spruce
yeah weird-ass installer
orchid spruce
well i checked it's source code and it checked like 3 locations
i wondered what shell was and apparently it checked even that...
lime lintel
I'm finally not going to be bothered by the patcher anymore
THANK GOD
Good stuff man
@orchid spruce so ununstalling doesn't get rid of the registry I guess?
lime lintel
And yet I still had it despite uninstalling from that location
Well, I had two copies of the game and uninstalled it once, and used a 3rd party tool to attempt the rest to be specific
worn otter
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Thanks for help @orchid spruce!