dense osprey
Just played a game on Nuclear Winter where after building my initial 3 mexes I couldn't upgrade one of my mexes to T2. I thought maybe it was a space issue so I ate buildings around it, but that didn't work. Turned off snap to grid, tried area mex, tried to manually place, but nothing worked. Stalled out my eco off 2 mex and lost the game. https://www.beyondallreason.info/replays?gameId=946c0665e183860877c0bcd5ca7a400c
dense osprey
So in around around with it, if you offset the mexes below towards each other, they seem to "overtake" the placement for the once above. meaning that even if you build it exactly on top of it, it won't "connect" to the mex
You need to build it in the opposide direction for it to work
But I couldn't figure that out mid game
hearty lynx
i blame @dusk mantle, like, not blame, but like, it's our fault, you can have fun
dense osprey
Anything close like this will have issues
Here for example, I can't right click / area mex the top one. It'll "queue" untilt he con arrives, then the con lands
hearty lynx
air cons have issues with building ghosts, but i think i have an idea of why this is happening
hearty lynx
i'm crying myself to sleep tonight
hearty lynx
i'm guessing the right click didn't work either
dense osprey
I plan to wage a month long campaign against "the devs" because I lost .2 ish OS because of this. How dare "they"
Clearly a personal attack against me
hearty lynx
I plan to wage a month long campaign against "the devs" because I lost .2 ish OS...
please, we had someone be sad cause they've been stuck at os 1 and are getting bullied for being a lot better than that
dense osprey
It's weird though, because in testing here I can disable swap to and place the mex, and it gets metal, but in game it didn't work
hearty lynx
anyway
nuclear winter
top left mexes can be placed close enough that a 3rd can't be placed
i'll look into it tomorrow
dense osprey
Cool, no worries, easy work around is don't build mexes too close to maximize commander start
But if you still want/need personal insults/threats of violence over this loss let me know
dusk mantle
I don't think anything we did would affect area mex, so maybe not entirely our/my fault? 😅
Just a guess, but I think it's related to the extraction radius calculation that decides if there's any metal available to extract after considering the metal removed by other extractors in that radius and denies building if there's none left - to prevent multiple mex on the same spot when only one would work.
Maybe we should discourage the map makers from putting the metal spots too close together? 😆
dense osprey
hearty lynx
i don't even know how area mex works, the script is like 2 lines of code
dense osprey
This is weird, even if I try to place this bottom left mex, it still tries to place it for the top
That's the result
dusk mantle
Hmm. The two lines being rendered looks like what happened when I was working on the changes and didn't know that there was a gadget doing the same thing as the widget, but I was only making changes to the widget so when my changes made it do something else then the gadget would draw in one position, the widget in the other, but the widget would be the one that actually controlled behavior and the gadet just rendered extra lines and ghosts while placing them.
dense osprey
The end result of me putting one there is that it "counts" as the top mex
Now I can't place the bottom left one
hearty lynx
it's a bit finniky but i can't get anything where i can't place a 3rd
dense osprey
let me try to reproduce it
hearty lynx
-huh, it might be these mexes specificlly, i recall there being a weird issue with geos where you can define 2 geos in the same spot, maybe a similar issue is applicable here, but i'm calling it night,- good luck wizzard
dense osprey
Yeah, it's happening in my game now
The top mex links to the bottom when I try to place
It's weird
So even though I am trying to build in the bottom left, it is linking to the top
It's like the bottom left spot doesn't exist
hearty lynx
alright i think i have a very good idea of what is going on but i really need to sleep
dense osprey
yeah no worries
dusk mantle
If you place them so the red circle around the ghosts don't overlap the other metal spots (or perhaps the places you can build the mex around them, not just the glowing blue bits) do they all build?
I'm going on holiday in a couple of days. Good luck someone else 🫠
dense osprey
Just wanted to report it
I've somehow wrecked them in my game, now when I try to area mex, I only get one, so I need to relanuch I think
hearty lynx
I've somehow wrecked them in my game, now when I try to area mex, I only get one...
give replay
dense osprey
It's gonna be weird though
because half of it is me afk taking screenshots and posting them here
hearty lynx
thanks
