Launcher hangs on "Checking for launcher update" | Beyond All Reason | BAR | Page 1

dreamy shore Jan 23, 2023, 11:25 PM

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Hello, I'm trying to play BAR for the first time, I used the AppImage launcher but it hangs on "Checking for launcher update" without more details in the log.

dreamy shore Jan 24, 2023, 8:31 PM

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Any idea where that could come from? I'm willing to investigate but I have no starting point.

lyric yew Jan 24, 2023, 10:28 PM

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VPN?

dreamy shore Jan 24, 2023, 10:29 PM

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I do use a VPN but I disconnected from it, deleted the folder and tried again. Same issue.

lyric yew Jan 24, 2023, 10:32 PM

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@undone palm is pro in finding/solving these issues normally

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maybe some anti-vir preventing it to store/save it locally?

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did you install it for a user, or for the machine?

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if you did user, try reinstalling for machine

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or vice versa

dreamy shore Jan 24, 2023, 11:08 PM

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No anti-vir, I installed as a user (launching the appimage)

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Not sure what installing for machine would be in this context, I mean I'm not going to run it as root.

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 12:33 AM

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You're linux user so you don't have this option

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Per machine makes it install in program files and per user makes it install it in user folder which no other non-admin user on the computer can access.

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Honestly i'm clueless on this one if it just hangs without any error

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iirc this stage is downloaded from github releases but i could be wrong.

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 2:06 AM

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Is there a way to enable more detailed logging to see exactly what hangs?

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I tried looking up what this step does but no luck: https://github.com/search?q=org%3Abeyond-all-reason+"launcher_update"&type=code

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 2:58 AM

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this is what it should be trying to download https://github.com/beyond-all-reason/BYAR-Chobby/tags

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at stage 5

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are you running the latest appimage?

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1.1861.0

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@dreamy shore

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from what i understand you don't "install" the appimage on Linux, you just run it as an app and it just leaves the files it creates somewhere...

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right?

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 3:00 AM

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Yes that is right

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 3:01 AM

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anyway, if it's not latest, get latest.
https://github.com/beyond-all-reason/BYAR-Chobby/releases/tag/v1.1861.0
it's possible that the website link is pointing to previous one

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but even if...

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it should just get the latest one after you run it...

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 3:01 AM

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I'll try with the appimage from github

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 3:02 AM

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I'm sorry my only experience with linux is a few days of Mint that i've spent to set up a potato laptop for my parents TV 😄

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 3:02 AM

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It's all good, I'm grateful you are trying to help at all 🙂

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 3:03 AM

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I'm not gonna lie Mint feels good tho a newcomer to this world. Give me full compatibility with all the windows apps and i'm switching to linux without hesitation.

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but that's offtopic

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 3:04 AM

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Well, I'm full on neckbeard at this point, going for obscure distros :p

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Situation is the same with the appimage from github (which makes sense they are unsurprisingly the same file)

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 3:05 AM

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allright so it's not even trying to update

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can't even check if it needs to update

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that's... interesting

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your obscure distro missing or blocking something? 😄

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 3:06 AM

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I've tried to check which DNS requests are made just in case and they all resolve fine

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 3:07 AM

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well there's an alternative of Flatpak

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if you're into that stuff

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 3:07 AM

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A good chunck of the filesystem is read only but nothing in the home directory

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And network wise nothing should be blocked

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 3:08 AM

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but it's odd either way, we have quite a lot of Linux users here and that's a first

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 3:08 AM

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I'd like to avoid Flatpak if at all possible

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Do you know where is the code for that part?

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 3:09 AM

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most likely here
https://github.com/beyond-all-reason/spring-launcher

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it's reading configs from another repo tho

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might also be here...
https://github.com/beyond-all-reason/pr-downloader

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and this is the lobby, that also stores configs...
https://github.com/beyond-all-reason/BYAR-Chobby

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💀

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 3:11 AM

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Not as simple as I hoped haha

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I already tried looking up strings from the log but I don't find anything:

Checking for config update from: https://launcher-config.beyondallreason.dev/config.json...
Config files are identical
Step: {
    "name": "launcher_update"
}
Checking for launcher update

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 3:15 AM

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if it reached step 5 then all the other downloads seem to work

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is your appimage file in some weird place in the filesystem maybe?

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i don't know how that filesystem works 😄

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on windows i just have some folders that need admin permissions and that's it

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 3:18 AM

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No it is just in my Downloads folder

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 3:18 AM

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i can only guess at this point

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 3:19 AM

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The weirdest is that all steps before that work fine

undone palm Jan 25, 2023, 3:19 AM

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exactly

dreamy shore Jan 25, 2023, 4:20 AM

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I found the relevant code (once again I'm remembered that github search is broken): https://github.com/beyond-all-reason/spring-launcher/blob/master/src/launcher_wizard.js#L178
What I gather is that https://www.electron.build/auto-update doesn't emit the events that it should.

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Now I'm in the middle of JS black magic. I'll just sleep on it and dig deeper tomorrow 🙂

empty saffron Mar 19, 2023, 8:33 PM

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did you ever end up solving this? i have the same issue. i extracted the appimage (./Beyond-All-Reason-1.1861.0.AppImage --appimage-extract) and ran ./AppRun. i glanced at the strace, which might be too low-level to debug this, and saw various recvmsg syscalls getting EAGAIN on some netlink file descriptor.

tired anchor Mar 19, 2023, 9:23 PM

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Checking for launcher update is contacting GitHub to check for updates

tired anchor Mar 19, 2023, 9:24 PM

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dreamy shore I found the relevant code (once again I'm remembered that github search is broke...

so exactly what you figured out

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Alternative is to use flatpak

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When you use flatpak, this step doesn't exist

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because update is fetched via flatpak

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If there is some bug there, it's the most likely bug in the electorn builder updater

rancid forge Mar 20, 2023, 1:08 AM

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You can actually also avoid this by changing the (Beyond All Reason instlall path)/launcher_cfg.json and setting auto_download to false

tired anchor Mar 20, 2023, 1:26 AM

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rancid forge You can actually also avoid this by changing the `(Beyond All Reason instlall pa...

That way you only avoid automatically starting update. You have to be able to run update to install game files first time and then to update lobby, engine etc.

rancid forge Mar 20, 2023, 1:57 AM

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Yes, but that does happen successfully

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Its just the launcher that fails to update (but you already have the latest version from the appimage I imagine)

empty saffron Mar 20, 2023, 4:38 AM

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ok, for me the problem goes away if i properly run the AppImage. doh!
originally, i didn't have fuse installed on my system, and the error output said i might be able to extract the image with the --appimage-extract option. that worked, and i was able to manually run ./AppRun in the squashfs directory. however, the launcher_update would silently hang.
i installed fuse (libfuse.so.2, not the newer libfuse.so.3) and didn't do the appimage-extract, and the launcher_update worked. my guess is there's either some parameters that I should have passed to ./AppRun (nothing obvious though) or something else set up by the actual AppImage: perhaps some network gofer on the other side of the socket i saw? (sandboxing stuff, perhaps).
anyway, if you get this issue, try not running ./AppRun directly. =)

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for any other linux people who stumble on this post, i also needed to install openal in addition to fuse. for gentoo linux, i installed them like so: emerge -avq sys-fs/fuse:0 media-libs/openal

tired anchor Mar 20, 2023, 8:25 AM

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Ah, well 🤷‍♂️

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