Massive framerate drop then crash | Beyond All Reason | BAR | Page 1

topaz prism Dec 6, 2022, 8:28 PM

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In this game https://www.beyondallreason.info/replays?gameId=bf638e6364f49eee75c6d31f29426cf3 I experienced massive framerate drop some time into game, then managed to crash the game by switching to different tty (on linux flatpak version). I reconnected, played a little then the same issue repeated. After that game I haven't been able to watch any replays, they all crash. I tried local bot vs bot match, which played fine, then framerate dropped from 150 to single digits, then game crashed. I re-tried this with appimage version, same result. I haven't tried a pvp match.

Is this known issue or new?

I haven't had issues like this before, and I played a 24-minute game on the same day without issues.

BAR Replays

Replays of Battles once fought!

rotund siren Dec 6, 2022, 8:35 PM

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I won't be able to help you personally by please share info logs and replay files so engine devs have a chance to debug this. I don't think it's known issue.

topaz prism Dec 6, 2022, 8:45 PM

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Replay is availiable at the link i gave. What logs and where are they?

topaz prism Dec 6, 2022, 9:04 PM

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The bot vs bot match has 0 byte replay file

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These are the relevant logs.

📎 20221206181659_infolog.txt 📎 20221206084057_infolog.txt 📎 20221206083933_infolog.txt 📎 20221206083800_infolog.txt 📎 20221205222942_infolog.txt 📎 20221205222627_infolog.txt 📎 20221205222401_infolog.txt 📎 20221205222101_infolog.txt 📎 20221205221346_infolog.txt

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I tried to play vs bots just now, crashed while loading

📎 20221206191837_infolog.txt

silent umbra Dec 6, 2022, 9:52 PM

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seems like weird hangs

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Warning: [Watchdog] Hang detection triggered for Spring 105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 BAR105. [t=00:06:27.343256][f=0043371] Warning: (in threads: {main,load,audio,vfsi}={1,0,0,0}) [t=00:06:27.504938][f=0043371] [CrashHandler] Warning: Suspended-thread Stacktrace (main) for Spring 105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 BAR105: [t=00:06:28.090542][f=0043371] [CrashHandler] Warning: This stacktrace indicates a problem with your graphics card driver, please try upgrading it. Specifically recommended is the latest version; do not forget to use a driver removal utility first. [t=00:06:28.952750][f=0043371] [CrashHandler] Warning: Suspended-thread Stacktrace (audio) for Spring 105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 BAR105:

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[t=00:04:52.715551][f=0037009] [VSync::SetInterval] interval=2 (standard) [t=00:04:56.680306][f=0037484] [VSync::SetInterval] interval=0 (disabled)
did you change settings right before crash?

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vsync on adaptive?

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last few strange hangs/crashes were fixed by lowering or removing any OC on the CPU

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 5:03 AM

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I haven't changed any settings. Probably all are on defaults, can check later

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What do you mean by OC

silent umbra Dec 7, 2022, 3:26 PM

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an OverClock

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manual ones, but sometimes also preset ones (some mainboards offer OC-presets - which could make BAR unstable - it needs 100% stable CPU to not crash or desync

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Hopefully some more people can take a look at your infologs

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 4:00 PM

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Oh, I have definitely not clocked my cpu

silent umbra Dec 7, 2022, 7:41 PM

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how much GPU ram do you have?

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FeatureDrawDistance = 600000
FeatureFadeDistance = 600000
GroundDetail = 200

from springsettings, these could be lowered

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features to like 50000
groundetail to 100-120

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 7:50 PM

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6GB of VRAM, should be enough

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(this far has been)

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And this didn't happen always on big maps

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I saw it with relatively few units on a small map

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FPS dropped suddenly from 150 to zero, probably didn't run out of resources

silent umbra Dec 7, 2022, 7:59 PM

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I'm under equipped to help you any further

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<@&760784285438312459> perhaps someone can help Majiks further?

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 8:06 PM

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Maybe they don't need to. I just tried to re-watch the Forge replay

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worked fine

lapis pecan Dec 7, 2022, 8:06 PM

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delete LuaUI folder and springsettings.cfg
that will reset all your settings

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 8:06 PM

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Got almost 2x speed until the end

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FPS over 10 with 2x speed all the time

lapis pecan Dec 7, 2022, 8:07 PM

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sounds like GPU things

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 8:07 PM

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I will scream, if this happens again

lapis pecan Dec 7, 2022, 8:07 PM

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if sim is good but graphic goes 10FPS

unkempt yoke Dec 7, 2022, 8:10 PM

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[t=00:01:00.318476][f=-000001] [CrashHandler] Warning: Suspended-thread Stacktrace (load) for Spring 105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 BAR105: [t=00:01:04.330167][f=-000001] [CrashHandler] Warning: Suspended-thread Stacktrace (audio) for Spring 105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 BAR105:
wow i've never seen these

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 8:10 PM

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Some might have been caused by going to other tty

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Ctrl+alt+F-key

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I use it to kill full screen unresponsive stuff if I cant otherwise

unkempt yoke Dec 7, 2022, 8:12 PM

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this may sound silly, but you have rebooted PC since, right?

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 8:12 PM

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nope, haven't in many days

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but

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I did log out another user

unkempt yoke Dec 7, 2022, 8:12 PM

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I know its linux

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Could you perhaps give it a shot?

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Might be driver related

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 8:13 PM

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I will restart if I see this again. But I haven't had driver updates a while, these require restart anyway

unkempt yoke Dec 7, 2022, 8:14 PM

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Not updates, just a pure reboot

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Dont change two variables at once XD

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 8:19 PM

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I will restart if I see this again. I don't want to stop collecting data, maybe it happens again

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😄

unkempt yoke Dec 7, 2022, 8:28 PM

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In your logs, look for stack traces

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[t=00:16:11.264304][f=0015328] Error: Spring 105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 BAR105 has crashed. [t=00:16:11.378405][f=0015328] Error: DLL information: [t=00:16:11.378676][f=0015328] Error: 0x00007ff7ade70000 spring [t=00:16:11.378699][f=0015328] Error: 0x00007ffb112b0000 ntdll [t=00:16:11.378714][f=0015328] Error: 0x00007ffb0f310000 KERNEL32

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and then
[t=00:16:11.380505][f=0015328] Error: Exception: Access violation (0xc0000005) [t=00:16:11.380519][f=0015328] Error: Exception Address: 0x00007ff7ae7ca13b [t=00:16:11.380562][f=0015328] Error: Stacktrace for Spring 105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 BAR105: [t=00:16:11.380953][f=0015328] Error: [ProgCtr=00007ff7ae7ca13b StackPtr=000000c3baff9cc0 FramePtr=000000c3baffa068] [t=00:16:11.380970][f=0015328] Error: (0) C:\Program Files\Beyond-All-Reason\data\engine\105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 bar\spring.exe [0x00007ff7ae7ca13b] [t=00:16:11.380986][f=0015328] Error: (1) C:\Program Files\Beyond-All-Reason\data\engine\105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 bar\spring.exe [0x00007ff7ae7bca73] [t=00:16:11.381001][f=0015328] Error: (2) C:\Program Files\Beyond-All-Reason\data\engine\105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 bar\spring.exe [0x00007ff7ae7dd1b8] [t=00:16:11.381016][f=0015328] Error: (3) C:\Program Files\Beyond-All-Reason\data\engine\105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 bar\spring.exe [0x00007ff7adea5103] [t=00:16:11.381031][f=0015328] Error: (4) C:\Program Files\Beyond-All-Reason\data\engine\105.1.1-1354-g72b2d55 bar\spring.exe [0x00007ff7ae026c41]

silent umbra Dec 7, 2022, 9:20 PM

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thanks BAR Team! You rock!

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(Hope it also heads towards a solution)
(then i can add "reboot your PC" to solve all your problems to the website FAQ 😄 )

topaz prism Dec 7, 2022, 9:30 PM

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silent umbra (Hope it also heads towards a solution) (then i can add "reboot your PC" to solv...

I actually haven't rebooted yet, so it's a bit premature to celebrate

unkempt yoke Dec 7, 2022, 9:34 PM

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Have you tried turning it off and on again is literally the first step in every troubleshooting guide, but Linux users cling to their uptime like it's a badge 😄

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I know, in guilty of it as well

silent umbra Dec 7, 2022, 11:17 PM

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I love quirky things in people

topaz prism Dec 8, 2022, 5:56 AM

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The thing is, it generally doesn't help with linux

topaz prism Dec 8, 2022, 7:31 PM

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Apparently Manjaro has forgotten to notify me that there are updates, my system was very out of date. I updated and restarted. I feel a bit embarrased now.

unkempt yoke Dec 8, 2022, 9:54 PM

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topaz prism Apparently Manjaro has forgotten to notify me that there are updates, my system ...

Did it help at all?

topaz prism Dec 9, 2022, 6:25 AM

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Hard to say. I did play on Wednesday w/o problems, then had problems yesterday, updated, played w/o problems. The issue seems to be somewhat intermittent. I'll close this thread if no more issues appear in a few days.

topaz prism Dec 11, 2022, 6:52 PM

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I have experineced no more issues this far.

wild heath Apr 23, 2023, 4:09 AM

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I am experiencing this same error as far as I can tell. I am on a fresh fully updated install of Manjaro but when playing multiplayer games the game will either crash while loading or a few minutes in. I think these are the right log files.

📎 infolog.txt 📎 20230422214941_infolog.txt

topaz prism Apr 23, 2023, 7:20 AM

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Did you try flatpak update?

#Massive framerate drop then crash