royal wraith
Suggestion: Let everyone use their other server emotes again
Explanation: People pay for nitro to use the emotes on any server.
Pros: Everyone can use their other server emotes again.
Cons: None, moderate the discord & if people abuse it to be toxic then strike & or mute them.
shy epoch
yes pls ty admin
royal wraith
worthy nest
Hi @royal wraith At this time, I do not believe staff is planning on returning this permission.
royal wraith
Hi <@338167395967434753> At this time, I do not believe staff is planning on ret...
What's the reason?
worthy nest
What's the reason?
Primarily toxicity. Players were getting too toxic and couldn’t respect their use of reactions, so they were removed. The decision wasn’t based on one specific instance, but rather a build up of toxic events from all around.
royal wraith
Primarily toxicity. Players were getting too toxic and couldn’t respect their us...
So you're punishing the entire server that pays for a feature they can't use, instead of utilizing a discord mute & or issuing them a strike, or specifically removing that individuals permissions?
shy epoch
lol these admins smh
royal wraith
Also reactions & being able to use regular emotes are two different things, people can be plenty toxic with lfaw's emotes or the default, for example i could spell dumb under this post. Ergo, toxic.
i wanna use my cats again, free my cats
shy epoch
they will sit in spectate waiting for rbs lol but cant monitor emojis??
We all promise to the admins we wont be toxic
royal wraith
we used to when I was, & we had discord specific staff which is what Galli was at the start, did away with the discord specific mods tho but like if regular staff can't or don't want to do that anymore, just bring it back. & it's not like people can't make reports about it either
royal wraith
We all promise to the admins we wont be toxic
royal wraith
TOXIC that 🙂 is passive aggressive
oh darn it made the actual emote
i guess i could just screenshot my own emotes in desperation
shy epoch
lol
worthy nest
So you're punishing the entire server that pays for a feature they can't use, in...
Sorry for the bit of a delay - i’ll be able to give you a proper response once i get settled at my GA 
worthy nest
@royal wraith (to answer everything in one go)
Yes, we used to have Discord Admins, which is what I was. I served as a Discord Admin (or DA) whenever I was at some of the busiest times of my life, but the fact of the matter is all Admins are expected to be monitoring Discord - typically Admins will monitor the chats that are respective to their game (ex. BoB Admins will look at bob-gen, BoB suggestions, etc.). I attempt to do this as well, but I am a full-time graduate student with an assistantship, so I work a lot in the background.
As for the emotes and the reasoning - yes. While Admins are required to monitor Discord, we have a certain expectation from our players to remain respectful to both staff and other players. As I know has been previously discussed, playing on a community server is a privilege, meaning the features in the community server are also a privilege. Similar to how a professor or teacher can take away certain items in academics because students aren't using it correctly, emotes can also be removed in this same fashion.
royal wraith
<@338167395967434753> (to answer everything in one go)
Yes, we used to have Disc...
I mean this as respectfully & kindly as possible, but I was hands down one of the busiest staff members at my time working 40 hours & then going to school full-time, on top of being severely mentally ill. I still managed to staff for 3 different games, two of which almost always were at max players, handle discord issues, be one of the staff who took the most reports to the point of repeatedly getting told not to. I was an extreme case that no one should repeat but ultimately you all do a job for free & that's what it is. The server isn't even half as busy now as it was then, let alone the discord so there's no reason not to be able to monitor the discord better. That explanation may work for players who don't know any better.
I'm not disagreeing with any of your last paragraph but there are multiple solutions to handling that, ones that don't punish the whole for a handful of players that...wouldn't it be in the staff (& communities) best interest to just root them out? These "privilege's" are ones that people pay for & now can't use here. And as I just proved previously, people can still be just as toxic with the existing emotes, not even mentioning gifs, or even just being disrespectful in their messages. Why aren't strikes being handed out? Why aren't those players having their discord chat privilege's removed?
worthy nest
I mean this as respectfully & kindly as possible, but I was hands down one of th...
I respect the work you did for staff. I know you were busy and it's true that you were probably busier than most, but, respectfully, making a claim that you were the busiest and were still able to handle as much as you did is simply unfair. I understand you did a lot, I am not denying that, but just because you can handle it doesn't mean someone else can. As you know, staff come from all walks of life - students, full-time adults, parents, etc. No one truly knows the business and the life a staff member truly lives, and it is unfair to assume the life of another.
The Discord isn't as busy, that's true, but that does not mean we can't make changes that ultimately prevent possible negative situations. People do pay for the service, which is why they can use the service in other places, but again, this is a community server with certain privileges - you pay to go to college and attend classes, but can you still be reprimanded if you chose to go against the codes of conduct? You pay to be in a classroom, but does that mean the professor does not have jurisdiction over their classroom and cannot punish students? I don't mean to imply that players are students, it is just a metaphor I figured you may be familiar with as a fellow student. We're not trying to remove free speech, players can and should be allowed to complain about the stuff they want to and use the gif they want to, but at the end of the day, we are taking preventative measures that protects both other players and our staff members.
And to be completely honest with you, staff get tired of being treated terribly. I've had a few holidays, even, (Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve specifically) where I was called a rainbow of slurs, backed by a colorful amount of gifs and reactions. As staff, this is arguably apart of the job, but staff are still people, and do not have to stand for being treated this way. The removal of outside reactions also limits the way players can treat staff.
royal wraith
I respect the work you did for staff. I know you were busy and it's true that yo...
I wasn't saying any of that to brag or say anyone should be like that, quite the opposite on both accounts. I've said as much to a few staff members who I see going down the same road trying to take on more than is healthy or sane to. But it's something that gets said all the time as an explanation or justification for taking shortcuts on things, especially now when the overall load is clearly less demanding. You wouldn't show up to a job & be like, "Hey...we had a really mean customer on the phone so we're not going to take phone calls anymore."
The issue is the actions being taken because it's collectively removing something from people who had no part in misusing it when there are other options that are as good if not better. If I did something in a classroom or at school then absolutely, I expect & accept the consequences, but if two people in my class are misusing their laptops & then the professor bans everyone from using their laptop...I'm not going to be okay with that for reasons that should be obvious. The one's misusing it, don't get to, why am I being lumped in with them. This solution just pisses off the majority of the community who (generally) aren't toxic & lets the ones that are toxic & have no plans on changing are allowed to continue unchecked & unpunished. People who want to be toxic ultimately will be & the only way to stop that, is to let them go through the strike system. This isn't preventative so much as it is a band aid.
Yeah I believe it & remember how it was, but it was a problem even back when I was staff & someone reported me, ripping into me, called me a heavy list of names, then took it into general, & then my DMs, & walked away with only a slap on the hand. There's a strike system for a reason, use it.
So again, the unanswered question remains:
Why aren't those players being muted/striked & or having their discord privilege's removed?
Also, if you're easily upset by emotes (which looking through my list, I can't think of any combination that would hurt more than being called slurs), probably should just stay off the internet if that's all it takes.