Elementalist Debuffs

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For the majority of the elementalist debuffs being triggered, they do damage based on the debuff type plus the type of damage from the triggering spell.
I.E. An enemy with the Enflamed debuff, when struck with Frost Shock, will take bonus fire and ice damage.
However, a target with Frostbite being hit with Chain Lightning only does bonus lightning damage
(Sidenote:Chain Lightning also does not apply Jolted to enemies if the Chain Lightning strikes a target with Frostbite for some reason)
I would also assume the Chilled debuff would result anytime ice damage is involved, whether the target is afflicted with Frostbite and it is triggered or Enflamed/Thunderstruck are triggered with Frost Shock.
For the most part this holds up, but an Enflamed target struck with Frost Shock is not Chilled.
And a Thunderstruck target hit with Firebolt is Chilled.

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To add on to this, the shiver debuff from Frost Shock and Orb of Frost does not refresh duration when it is reapplied, meaning it its impossible to chill a target without them standing in one spot for orb of frost.

Triggering Frostbite with Firebolt does not apply ember in addition to the aforementioned Chain Lightning not applying jolted

The Ember debuff from Fireball and Firebolt stack together, but the Ember debuff from Meteor Shower makes its own stack of Ember

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Honestly, reading this hurt my brain lol

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Im not the one who made elementalist so complicated D:

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Neither did I… neither did I lol

I’ll walk through this later this week and see if I can fix some stuff

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Well if I wasn't clear on anything when you're going through it lmk, I may be able to clarify

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pls nerf elementalist chisme

jk

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lol i like elementalist!

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ok so I'm going through elementalist now

so when hitting an enflamed with frost shock, it deals frost and fire damage

chain lightning on frostbite does, in fact, only does lightning damage

the way the logic is setup for chain lightning is that it applies jolted if no status effect is on the enemy

so it is working as intended if it has frostbite

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This comment i would need to defer to @glacial plover if he wants shiver to reset time on stack added

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Chain lightning does apply jolted when triggering enflamed

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kk let me look at that

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Ember does refresh when reapplied

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ah ok there are inconsistencies then

i will make it so that shiver refreshes then

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I didn’t test if jolted refreshes but iirc it doesn’t either

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hmm ok

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Only way for that to happen is use lightning strike and wait for a stack of jolted to drop then cast chain lightning

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let me ask ryan if we want it to refresh

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Since if you don’t wait it will reach 3 stacks and turn into thunderstruck

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ok so they will be refreshed

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i think this is NOT intended

but part of me thinks that one person wanted it to apply the status

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What is the aoe range on frost shock triggering thunderstruck and chain lightning triggering enflamed? I can’t get it to work on dummies 2 tiles away

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2.95

for both

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Ok nvm that’s working

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So incoming 6,000 dmg nerf to chain lightning then?

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not sure, I'm asking whether we want the base element to apply it's element

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And confirmed jolted is not refreshed on reapply either

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yeah all those stacks will now refresh

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why is this a nerf?

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Jolted does a DoT

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i see i see

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So not applying jolted to thunderstruck and enflamed targets means no DoT, less damage

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right right

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And its basically impossible to AoE starting out with chain lightning, then casting meteor storm and orb of frost, since they lock you in place to cast

And taking that many hits means dead

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I am noticing firebolt triggering thunderstruck and frostbite is triggering chilled, which seems wrong

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Frostbite being triggered applying chilled makes sense to me, but fire+lightning applying chilled definitely does not

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yeah

@pulsar tinsel can we get your thoughts on this

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Also all the enflamed/thunderstruck/frostbite dmg and jolted DoT show as unknown in log

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okok

so right now

chain lightning on frostbite applies jolted

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It does on your end?

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we changed it so that it does

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Ah, tyty

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there are other issues here we are trying to solve now

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there is an issue where chain lightning is not applying the effects to the primary target

and we need to continue investigation on that

ok i think we now fixed that part

ok we made some fixes. On restart, feel free to test a few of these

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Thank you! I look forward to it 😄

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Most of the triggers have been inconsistent or underwhelming for ele except for triggering Enflamed with Chain Lightning. Hitting a group with that much aoe happening is significant. It sounds like yall tested all the other details pretty well so not much more to weigh in on. I do look forward to testing it out though. We will learn quickly if it is too op 😁

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In a twist, the ember debuff from firebolt and meteor shower now stack correctly, but fireballs ember debuff now does not stack with firebolt and meteor shower

Firebolt on a frostbitten target does not apply ember

And log shows the source as unknown for Enflamed/Frostbite/Thunderstruck triggers, as well as the Jolted DoT. (Also the Ignite enchant, Unstable Element trinket)

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i can look into this

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this is fixed

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this is fixed