Memory leak up to 8 GB while gaming

[wide bone]

i assume you're talking about vram.

I'm a 3070ti with 8gigs of memory too. It's ALWAYS used about 8 gigs for me on medium settings. I've had to fine tune the settings so it just BARELY needs a little less than what my card can put out. Performance has only increased for me with recent updates and the beta.

[iron spire]

I just saw the memory usage sky rocket, it's a memory leak,

I have 16 GB of RAM

Now i have updated the Graphic drivers and will test if that improves things later on

[wide bone]

The rtx3060 does not have 16 gigs of vram

it looks like some models had 12 but the vast majority also only have 8

[iron spire]

I am talking about the physical RAM

[wide bone]

if you'r eonly at half utilization what's the problem?

pretty sure utilization of the game is like 20 something gigs out of my 64

for me

[iron spire]

The issue is the slide shows that the game is

Memory at 81%

[wide bone]

it's not your ram i don't think, it's probably your very old underpowered graphics card

[iron spire]

Come on

[iron spire]

In the older versions it wasn't an issue

And it's not underpowered either

[wide bone]

though i don't know recommended ram specs for this game.

The 3060 is very underpowered for the best looking vr game ever made lol

[iron spire]

Can't wait for the game to be optimized for quest Stand alone

[tidal sleet]

by older version, do you mean 0.12?

[iron spire]

So it will be better optimized

[iron spire]

Hell even the beta of the 0.13 went far smoother

[wide bone]

for me performance has only gotten better

[tidal sleet]

same for me, performance is better than before

[wide bone]

i'm like right on the edge of being able to run this in good settings on my gpu at my current settings

[iron spire]

Ye this game needs optimization

[wide bone]

The problem is you have a very cheap old gpu most likely lol

[iron spire]

That's not the case

[wide bone]

right now it's pretty damn well optimized for an early access game. what's your cpu?

[wide bone]

XD okay. WHoever told you the 3060 is a good gpu for vr in 2025 lied to you, i hate to break it to you

[iron spire]

Don't remember it at the top of my head

[tidal sleet]

hell, i have the same graphics card and it's working fine for me

[iron spire]

I can't upgrade anyway even if i wanted to, it's a laptop

[iron spire]

I update the graphic drivers

I will see if that improves the situation

Or if the memory leak keeps going on

[wide bone]

it's not a memory leak probably lol

that only you're getting

download hwmonitor and see your vram utilization

8 gigs of vram is dogshit lol

that's what i have, also the game is very cpu intensive

and you don't even know what cpu you have

[iron spire]

Until proven otherwise i will keep thinking it is

[iron spire]

I can just check

[primal edge]

Dont memory leaks typically also happen over a period

not suddenly at once

[tidal sleet]

they do

[iron spire]

No need to be so Condescending

[wide bone]

Based on what? XD

[iron spire]

They started happening after the 0.13.1 hot fix

[wide bone]

does the game start out with bad frames

then after like 10 minutes or something get really bad?

[primal edge]

or is it consistently bad or map dependant

[wide bone]

This is what would happen to me.

I was running out of vram cuz the 3070ti is a shitty card in 2025

Your card is even shittier than mine lol

i had to really tune my settings to get like the edge of what my card can do and still have good frames

[primal edge]

nvidia and their wack ass vram decisions

anyway try to be nice to eachother

[iron spire]

Yes

[iron spire]

Yes

[iron spire]

Yes to both

But like i said, the issues started after i applied the hotfix 0.13.1

[iron spire]

Ok, give me money to buy a new laptop then

[tidal sleet]

if you can, get a tower
it's nice and modular

[iron spire]

With what cash? Also we are getting out of topic

[tidal sleet]

swap out parts when needed when some generous discord user sends you some money 😄

(it's not me, i'm broke)

[wide bone]

AND you're on a laptop? So your gpu is going to be even WORSE lol

Do yourself a favor, install hwmonitor.

Zero out all the high/lows

Play itr2 for awhile.

When your frames go to shit look at your temps, look at your vram usage, look at ram usage.

so many things could be causing your issue

[iron spire]

Temperature is not an issue

[primal edge]

With laptops it can be

and normally is

[wide bone]

It was an issue for me on my desktop

[iron spire]

Not with extra and proper cooling

[iron spire]

Cause yours wasn't properly cooled

Mine is

[wide bone]

Lol...

[primal edge]

What laptop do you even have

[wide bone]

do you even have a gaming fan curve set up?

[iron spire]

You made an assumption about me, i can do the same

[wide bone]

my case is great for cooling, itr just cooks gpus

I had to set up my own fan curve that blasts everything at 100% and i ONLY have to use that fan curve for itr2

till i did that i got regular frequent therman throttling

[iron spire]

I have a cooling platform and a desk fan aimed at my laptop

[wide bone]

that doesn't matter lol

[primal edge]

desk fan is irrelevant

[iron spire]

It's not a temperature issues

[iron spire]

Air flows

[wide bone]

how do you know?

[iron spire]

It does matter

[primal edge]

cooling platform helps a bit but if the actual inside of the thing isn't designed well

[iron spire]

Cause i check it periodically

[wide bone]

install hwmonitor and post the results after playing itr2.

[iron spire]

Alright

[primal edge]

but yeah the desk fan isn't helping all that much

[wide bone]

for a lap top that old it's entirely possible all the fans are clogged up with lint

[iron spire]

I check the temperature periodically, it does

[primal edge]

im not saying its getting bad temps

im saying the desk fan probably isn't contributing all that much to it

[iron spire]

One is saying another thing, another one says another

[wide bone]

nobody knows what it is

[iron spire]

I genuinely can't follow both of you

[wide bone]

including you lol

you're just insisting you do know when the more we learn about your setup it could be ANYTHING

we're trying to help you

my cooling setup is orders of magnitude better than your laptop.

My gpu would have temps within spec. THe hotspot however was hitting like 99c

[iron spire]

I never got those temperatures

[wide bone]

and it was causing me to throttle, my frames would go to shit.

Me either

[primal edge]

ITR2 cooks my laptop and im cooling it adequately

[wide bone]

till i started playing itr2

you don't even have hwmonitor installed

how tf do you know what your gpu hotspot temp is?

[iron spire]

Do you know why i haven't installed it yet?

Cause i am busy responding to y'all

[primal edge]

you can just go and do it and respond later

[iron spire]

What's the name of the program again?

[wide bone]

hwmonitor

[iron spire]

Also there was another option to turn off

On SteamVR

The smoothing something

[wide bone]

yes turn off motion smoothing

[iron spire]

Where it is?

[iron spire]

Motion smoothing

[wide bone]

steam vr settings

[iron spire]

I don't have it

It's in my meta quest 2 called asynchronous space

Already turned off

I managed to mostly mitigate the issue, still, this game needs more optimization

[swift flame]

Thats a little bit of a stretch isnt it?

[swift flame]

It does, I hate whenever someone points out the optimization isnt on point and gets back "Well it runs better for me", good for you my guy I guess xd

[iron spire]

Thank you

Or "Upgrade", i would if i could

[swift flame]

Ofc theres limit to what HW you have to have for it to run smoothly, but only shadows tank a lot of FPS even on medium, the difference is insane

[iron spire]

Yes

Can't wait for the quest version to bring more optimization in the PC version as well

[swift flame]

Same

Its even acknoledged by the devs the optimization isnt as on point as it could be due to having to yet relase Meta and next update is supposed to be mainly focused on the engine from what ive seen here

[iron spire]

Hell yeah

This is music to my ears

[swift flame]

I cant express how much i hate "It runs better for me"

Its system to system, thats how it works xd

[iron spire]

So real

[swift flame]

Ive seen dudes here with NASA pcs having issues

[iron spire]

My G 🤝

[swift flame]

Im talking like 4090s

[iron spire]

Ye

[swift flame]

Even my 3060Ti shouldnt have an issue with the game

[iron spire]

I ain't gonna drop 2K and more for this game

[swift flame]

Im running ALL high, except shadows on low

[swift flame]

Also optimizations should be targeted to the most common hardware, which is rn 3060 ect.

[iron spire]

Where do they say this?

[swift flame]

If not, might as well call it experimental project like a sim xd

[iron spire]

Just wanna read it with my own eyes

[swift flame]

Havent seen directly from them but heard multiple people say it, second hand info

But Meta release is planned for Q2/Q3

So it only makes sense

[iron spire]

Understood

[primal edge]

the most recent big update was an update to what UE version the game uses

went from 5.3 to 5.4

[iron spire]

Understood

[iron spire]

True

[swift flame]

Its just needs more time spent on optimizing and thats it

[iron spire]

Yes

[swift flame]

It mostly runs fine, its just little tweaks ect

Polish it out

The foundation is there

[iron spire]

That's debatable but you get my point

[swift flame]

Well its more common for it to work properly then not to from what ive seen, but its not great really

[iron spire]

Ye

Just

[swift flame]

Also then stuff like steamVr breaking half of FPS xd

[wide bone]

Not at all. What other open world vr game looks this good, has this many shadow casting light sources and environments this big.

[swift flame]

Its a personal opinion, thats the issue

[wide bone]

if there's even other vr games in ue5 i'm unaware of them.

[iron spire]

And so much stuttering and lag

[primal edge]

pavlov

though nobody actually knows why it does now

[wide bone]

Yes when you have a crap system it's gonna.

For me my frametimes are immaculate

[swift flame]

Alyx isnt ue5 and looks better in my opinion with the detail

[primal edge]

smaller environments

[iron spire]

Good for you my guy i guess Xp

[wide bone]

half life alyx isn't an open world game lol

[swift flame]

Still, it was talking about "best looking"

[primal edge]

and source 2 is actual black magic

[swift flame]

The initial message you sant said "best looking vr game"

[swift flame]

Really is not gonna lie xdd

[wide bone]

who fucking cares XD

[swift flame]

You should if you want your point to be understood?

[iron spire]

Hey, at least own up what you say

[swift flame]

by the nines

[wide bone]

having extremely large environments and tons of things going on is part of the presentation.

[swift flame]

Half of the enviroment is fogged up anyways?

[wide bone]

NEAT

[iron spire]

Not even visible from the distance and it only takes from the performance

[swift flame]

You are talking about open world where you can see 1/4 of the map even less at a time

[wide bone]

talking to you is such a colossal waste of time. jfc haha

[swift flame]

Goes both ways 🙂

[iron spire]

Tbh ITR2 should do like Minecraft, loading with chunks

[swift flame]

Depends, i dont mind the fog most of the times

I think peninsula is little overkill xd

[iron spire]

Just thinking how the game could have less of a strain on the performance

[iron spire]

I agree

[swift flame]

Well it all depends what is causing the issues, we dont see the code base

But i think they will tweak it out

Like they did with the first game, its just gonna take a little longer

[iron spire]

Yes i agree

[iron spire]

It was just an idea that's all

[swift flame]

Who knows, maybe all those single bullets on the map are the cause of all our problems (Probably not xd)

[wide bone]

This is my utilization running itr2 at only 100% resolution with almost all medium settings.

If anything in the game requires even .3% more my game goes into a slide show. I've had to fine tune everything to keep it consistently under that measily 8 gigs.

Before i did this i was totally bottlenecked by my cpu even with only the 8 gigs of vram which was giving me pretty bad frame times.

But i had a cpu that was fine for every single thing i played...other than itr1 and itr2. I recently got a new system and upgraded it to something much better. And only now does the game run perfectly smooth.

And here's my temps. Note my gpu is running very cool.

But note my hotspot temp. That is the hottest part of the die. At the hottest playing that game it was like 2c away from thermal throttling despite all my fans running 100% in a case with far better thermals than any laptop can have

[coarse haven]

Remember that the more ram you have the higher the allocation

And as long as you have free ram it won't make the game stutters

Games stutter is when the delta between high and "low" fps is high

If the game goes from 600 to 200 fps you perceive a stutter even tho the fps are high

That's a scenario

The other one is when you run out of VRAM thus making the textures being loaded into ram and call them back to VRAM when needed

[coarse haven]

I'm pretty sure it does

What you see in the distance is just a low detail model of the "map"

[iron spire]

Btw the game runs smooth butter during night so now i am 200% sure it's not a problem with my PC, but like i said before, good for you my guy i guess xp

@coarse haven The devs needs to improve the usage of the resources of the game then, since you are far more civil than a certan person, i thank you for your time, and those parts of the maps are still visible, not hidden away, in Minecraft there's an option called chunk render distances, i would love to have something like that
@wide bone You speak like i can do something about my computer, if you want to offer me an upgrade i'll take your offer upon it, otherwise i'll wait for the game's optimization, also learned that during the night the game has no FPS drops, no stuttering, no lag fest, nothing

[coarse haven]

Are you using steamvr?

[iron spire]

Correct

[coarse haven]

Is your steam VR resolution set to auto or are you using the slider?

[iron spire]

Slider

110%

[coarse haven]

And what do you use to connect it?

Air link?

[iron spire]

Air link

[coarse haven]

Set your air link resolution to 1

[iron spire]

1?

[coarse haven]

And then use the stamvr slider

[iron spire]

Where do i set that?

[swift flame]

Meta Oclus Link app

Devices -> your headset -> on the right scroll down theres resolution

[iron spire]

I seem to not have this option

Do i turn the headset on or what?

[coarse haven]

Uuuu

I'm blind since I don't have a quest

[iron spire]

Eh i'll turn on the meta quest 2 to see if the option appear

[coarse haven]

Graphics preference

[iron spire]

Also because i have modified the Meta app to not turn on when i use VR on my PC

[swift flame]

You have to connect the device yes

[iron spire]

I'll do that and see if it appear

[swift flame]

Sometimes its there sometimes you have to turn on the headset xd

Meta moment

[iron spire]

That's why i turned it off altogether

[coarse haven]

My assumption is that air link is setting a random resolution and since stamvr uses that base line you're getting random performance everytime

Like one day is fine and another day is unplayable

[swift flame]

Well i wasnt on steamvr at all and still hapened to me

[coarse haven]

On a 6600 tho right?

[swift flame]

That is if i understand correctly Airlink doesnt use steamvr?

[coarse haven]

Yes it's not necessary

[swift flame]

6600?

[coarse haven]

Set it manually to 1

[coarse haven]

Rx 6600

Was it you or another guy?

[swift flame]

Nono I have 3060ti

The other guy xdd

[iron spire]

Done

[coarse haven]

Same here

[coarse haven]

Now check what resolution is in steamVR

[iron spire]

Ok

[coarse haven]

Ses It max to 2200x2200

[swift flame]

So why do you go trough steamVR even on arilink if you can skip steamVr entirely? In my experience steamVr tanks quite a bit of fps on quest

[coarse haven]

Oh Jesus i'm confusing your gpus

[coarse haven]

Oh yeah that's a good question

[swift flame]

I have much better performance on pure airlink then on steamlink

[coarse haven]

I use vd

[swift flame]

Yeah i will eventually end up with VD too, airlink somehow pulled itself together last month so lets see how long it will last xdd

[iron spire]

I use it due to the OVR advanced settings which allows me to use the controls i want

[coarse haven]

Wait openvr toolkit?

[swift flame]

Hmm thasts fair enough, altough I feel like its not worth the fps tank

[iron spire]

OVR advanced settings

[coarse haven]

Oculus VR?

I guess that's it

I remember myself confusing them

[iron spire]

?

No it's not oculus VR

[coarse haven]

It must stand for something XD

[swift flame]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1009850/OVR_Advanced_Settings/

Steam

OVR Advanced Settings

OVR Advanced Settings is a desktop overlay application for SteamVR, giving you a wide array of settings, and utilities all while in VR.

Price

$7.99

Recommendations

177

▶ Play video

Its a tool

[iron spire]

Thank you

[swift flame]

Well you should try pure airlink just for the sake of trying it

And see where that leads you

[coarse haven]

Perfect now there are 3 things called ovr

[iron spire]

Eh i modified it so it doesn't work at all

[swift flame]

Yeah its sick i love VR naming conventions

[swift flame]

Well then reset it to default what is this attitude, gotta figure this shit out somehow

xdd

[coarse haven]

I don't wanna scroll up so what was your GPU again? XD

[iron spire]

Gonna do it after checking the SteamVR the resolution

[iron spire]

3060 RTX?

[coarse haven]

Ok 3060

[iron spire]

My attitude is i hate that meta software

[swift flame]

Same but gotta cope man gotta cope

[iron spire]

It takes resources

[coarse haven]

You should be able to run on around 1900x1900

[swift flame]

Per eye?

[coarse haven]

Maximum 2000x2000

[coarse haven]

Ye

My friend has one

[iron spire]

The set up i have runs fun for every other VR game

[swift flame]

SteamVr setting is per eye, Oculus Meta Link shit app is whole resuliton so careful for that

[swift flame]

Man i cant launch B&S trough steamVr rn only airlink works and not even the devs know what really is happening

Its such an rng roll

[iron spire]

I can launch it through SteamVR

[swift flame]

Yeah but thats beside the point, there is a chance that one day you will wake up and it wont work

Kinda part of VR gaming xd figuring this shit out, I hate it but theres no other way

[iron spire]

Right

Where do i check steamVR resolution?

[swift flame]

I think thats only in the headset

But in the headset open the steamVr menu and its one of the VR categories in the menu

[iron spire]

See u in 10 minutes after i figured out where exactly

[swift flame]

xddd good luck

Not hard to find

[wide bone]

You still don't seem to know how any of this works lol.

But it's worth noting you have a far worse system than me in EVERY WAY best i can tell and you're running the game at a higher resolution than me.

aka, don't do that.

[swift flame]

Drop the sass doesnt help anything

Tbf ive seen people with worse or same systems running the game better then I

[iron spire]

Good for you my guy i guess xd

[iron spire]

Now it's 2000x2000

[coarse haven]

I had read B&S like bull and shit rather than blade and sorcery

[swift flame]

xddd

Thats just bs xddddd

But thats pretty funny

[iron spire]

Gonna try to run the game with the current settings

And see how it goes

[coarse haven]

Check how the performance is now

[wide bone]

this person is utterly beyond help lol

[iron spire]

You are utterly beyond useless

[swift flame]

Well nobody is requiring you to do it you know, you can just not engage in this convo if you feel that way

It could be 100% his fault or something really random

And even if he didnt understand some stuff if, in the end, he will understand more, thats a good thing in my eyes anyways

[iron spire]

Not an he

[swift flame]

My bad

[iron spire]

All good

Anyway the performances now are far worse

Gonna slide back the resolution of SteamVR

[swift flame]

I really think you should try the arilink only method, im pretty sure it will boost the performance pretty decently

[iron spire]

And then if the performances still remain awful i'll reset the Meta resolution as well

[iron spire]

Listen, my controllers have ugly stick drift

[swift flame]

Or just try cable if you can, thats basically the same

[iron spire]

I need SteamVR to not throw up

[swift flame]

Yeah you dont have to play it that way, just so we know

[iron spire]

Tried cable

[swift flame]

But without steamVr

[iron spire]

Ok, from now on i'll see the issue myself, thank you JunnA