the forest level doesnt load

[nocturne tundra]

When I try to go into the forest level the game "crashes", as in it keeps loading and steamvr says waiting on ITR.

[civic orbit]

Maybe try to verify the file integrity?

For if you don't know:

In Steam Library, right click ITR2, go to properties > Installed Files > Verify File Integrity

[nocturne tundra]

after restarting the game for a second time it now works

[robust escarp]

I've had this same issue as well, restarted twice to no change but will try verifying as well now.

Verifying the files hasn't helped, I still can't get into the Forest. Long load time, then the Steam "waiting" screen. Desktop shows the viewpoint as on the ground as well but nothing shown in the headset for me (Quest 2)

[olive wing]

I noticed it is actually loading just its taking forever

it does eventually let me in just it takes an absolutely nutty amount of time

[robust escarp]

I'll leave it for a bit and see if anything happens then, was the "waiting" screen showing the whole time for you?

[olive wing]

yup

[robust escarp]

Holy crap it worked. You're right though, that load time is obscene now!

[olive wing]

its crazy how long it is

[naive ginkgo]

Ya same here it takes about 5 plus minutes to load but its only when you enter the forest from another location. These long load times do not happen if you create a save in the forest and load it from there.

[olive wing]

For me if I save and load into the forest

it doesn't load at all

and ends up just crashing

[nocturne tundra]

i tried loading into my save inn the forest from the menu but after waiting for around 20 or so minutes i gave up.

[olive wing]

Yea for me it only seemed to load from hub

but i saw earlier on a different post people managed it via going penisula and then forest

Its incredibly annoying since i can't progress now because it saved itself in the forest

and loading in via the main menu just crashes the game

[civic summit]

Also the forest level is overall unplayable

[olive wing]

For me its fine when it loads

[civic summit]

I faced a whole small squadron of enemies in the forest, when at first i tried to take them from the portal on top of the sniping spot, the game was a slide show, when i took them from the ground the game was fine, after the fight, i reloaded my mags and the game started lagging again, only closing and opening the save file make the lag disappear in the forest for a while

This beta is a 50/50

[olive wing]

Ough thats bad

[civic summit]

Yep

[civic summit]

Gonna say the M4A1 is now an extension of my long range ability

Love that rifle

[vast elm]

Send me your save file which cannot be loaded

Or stuck during loading to forest

[olive wing]

I'll send mine aswell

[vast elm]

Yup

[olive wing]

they are gone

[vast elm]

They might be in default folder

[olive wing]

they appear to be but i suspect steam cloud ate my previous beta saves

since i had .11 saves in there before

[vast elm]

@olive wing So you just transition from hub to forest - and it freezes?

Can you check if your RAM amount enough and it is not on 100% when loading?

[olive wing]

It freezes for about a minute

then on the desktop view i see that it loaded me in slightly in the floor but still on the steam "waiting" thing in headset

then after a while it'll suddenly jump the desktop view up to head height before either crashing after another minute or loading me in

[olive wing]

around like 50% ram usage

[olive wing]

this is only visible on the desktop screen and its just a still frame

[vast elm]

Can you try to switch all settings to minimum?

And try to disable "experimental optimizations"

Or vice versa - enable it

[olive wing]

Yep give me a second

it definitely loaded to this state quicker

and now im actually in forest fully in able to play

way faster that when i was on medium

[vast elm]

Well, try to play with experimental optimizations. Imo, it really helps

[civic summit]

Mine skyrocket to 100% when i am in the forest

[vast elm]

Did it affect the loading time?

[civic summit]

Every graphic settings is at minimum

[civic summit]

Not really

[vast elm]

Well, mini skyrocket sounds fine. No long-time freezes and so on - that's main thing

[civic summit]

Ok

[olive wing]

I do normally

I play on all medium with experimental on

good to know that if i wanna play forest i can bump my graphics all the way down to get it to load

[slate pebble]

Can you launch "dxdiag.exe" and press "save..." there and send that .txt file me, please?

[olive wing]

does the game have to be open or just open it by itself

@slate pebble

Just send it here yeah?

[slate pebble]

you don't need to do smth with game for it

[olive wing]

Yeah i figured that out quickly apologies

Here you go

[slate pebble]

thank you!

[robust escarp]

It does load eventually but I get the same hang at Steam's "waiting" screen as @olive wing

[vast elm]

For a few seconds?

Or minutes?

[robust escarp]

Minutes. Probably around five

[vast elm]

Oh...

Passed to the team

[robust escarp]

I do have experimental optimisations on though so turning that off might help by the sounds of what was said above

[vast elm]

How much RAM you have?

[robust escarp]

32GB

[vast elm]

🫡

[olive wing]

yeah lowering the settings down seems to make whether it loads or not more reliable

[nocturne tundra]

i have tried lowering settings but it still doesnt load for me, ive tried waiting 10 minutes with lowest settings and experimental optimisations on and off but it still doesnt load

[civic orbit]

Yup, mine isn't loading either
Lowest possible settings and xopt. on/off

Nothing helps i wonder when this will be fixed...

[civic summit]

Tried to go from Penisula to the forest too?

[civic orbit]

Yes, doesn't help either

[civic summit]

Which VR headset are you using?

[civic orbit]

Quest 2, but using PCVR through SteamVR

[civic summit]

Are you using Meta OpenXR?

[civic orbit]

No SteamVR

[civic summit]

You are supposed to use Meta OpenXR

[civic orbit]

No, just openXR
SteamVR uses openXR

Just like meta, however, meta draws a lot of performance

[civic summit]

You have to change the OpenXR to the Meta one

[civic orbit]

No you don't, who said that?

[civic summit]

Actually many

Even some mods

And for many the game runs much better with the Meta OpenXR

Me included

[civic orbit]

Me excluded

[civic summit]

Then you are somehow different

Did you already tried the Meta openXR?

[civic orbit]

Many times

No succes

[civic summit]

Does the game perform better with SteamVR OpenXR or with Meta OpenXR?

[civic orbit]

SteamVR in my case.
Actually, in many cases not just mine is SteamVR showing better performance

[civic summit]

Odd

[robust escarp]

Weirdly my save inside the Forest fired up in the "normal" wait time from 0.11 without changing anything. However, once I returned to the outpost and tried to go back to the forest I got hit with the massive loading time again.

[civic summit]

Did that happen once you load the beta?

[robust escarp]

So my first time in 0.12, I loaded a save into the outpost from an old save. No issues. Tried to go into the Forest and had the loading issues but waited it out and got in eventually.

Loaded my save last night where I was already in the Forest, no real issue and hadn't changed experimental optimisation or anything else. Left, tried to go back in and got the same loading problem again.

[civic summit]

Yeah, the forest needs some heavy fixing

[robust escarp]

Something does, the Forest itself runs fine for me when I'm in. But it's weird that it only happens when travelling into it 🤔

[civic summit]

For many it's a slide show

[nocturne tundra]

i tried loading my save in the forest using quest link instead of steamvr and it worked. so that might be a workaround

using oculus as the current openXR runtime

[civic summit]

What's your VR setup?

[nocturne tundra]

a quest 3

[civic summit]

PC?

[nocturne tundra]

usually i use steamvr

[nocturne tundra]

yeah

[civic summit]

What's your PC build?

[nocturne tundra]

uhh

[civic summit]

Core and Graphic card and RAM will suffice

[nocturne tundra]

rtx 3060
amd ryzen 7 5700x i think
32 gb ram

[civic summit]

Report if you get any frame drops and/or slide show moments

[nocturne tundra]

i do get some spikes but its usually stable

[civic summit]

Damn

[nocturne tundra]

on medium-high setting

usung steamvr though quest link is ass and i can only run it with low settings

[civic summit]

I just hope it will be fixed for everyone else

[nocturne tundra]

yeah

i trust

[civic summit]

I only trust when i'll see an improvement of the perfomance

[vast elm]

This bug is top 1 priority rn and we are trying to find a solution

[civic summit]

Lovely to hear

[civic orbit]

Awesome, can't wait!

If it helps, i noticed that when stuck in the loading screen, the display monitor actually rendered the spawn location. Everything is just frozen and i could partially see my character model.
I did see someone mention this earlier with the same description.

So i think something at the spawn location is causing trouble.

[olive wing]

Its not just the spawn location i've noticed

its a blanket thing across the entire forest

it loads in the map but something causes it to hang then just suddenly stops

and lets you in after a few minutes

or just crashes

[nocturne tundra]

i actually got a huge performance boost by turning "meta plugin compatibility" from on to automatic so you could check if you have that on

[robust escarp]

This works for me too, huge boost from having to run on low with reduced render %, to now 100% on medium everything

Not tested in the Forest though

[civic summit]

Will test it as soon as i am on

[olive wing]

Yep new patch fixes this entirely

[civic summit]

Really?

That's great news

[olive wing]

Yup

And it seems to be running a lot better for me aswell

[civic summit]

Gonna put on the automatic meta plugins anyway

But that's lovely

[robust escarp]

I'd be curious to know what the issue was if any devs would be willing to share

[civic summit]

With automatic meta plugins the game is constantly lagging for me

[civic summit]

Too bad it doesn't work for me