cannot dodge spawns

[grave quiver]

Same specs as previous postings.

The spawns [balls of angry razor blades], cannot be evaded like in ITR1.

[stiff stag]

skill issue

[olive pulsar]

yeah, this is not a bug.

[slender rune]

They pause before jumping, shoot them then.

[last tapir]

yea a quick lil guide is to keep your gun aimed at them and shoot them when they stop to jump at ya

and keep track of them

[woeful beacon]

lol ye they clearly tougher than in itr1; that delay when they stop before jumping seems a lot shorter too and they appear to deal a lot more damage that what I remember; will prolly be better once we get -custom again pls- difficulty levels

[olive pulsar]

Also, I swear they wait and group up together so they can all ambush you at the same time. Like, sometimes they'll all just run (roll?) at you as soon as they hear gun fire, but I've seem them run and hide and ambush later.

[uncut laurel]

Yeah they are actually quite intelligent now. I walked into a house and one was camping the corner and jumped me. And yeah they seem to work together and form groups, I've even seen them flank and surround me.

[sour lake]

You can duck to dodge them

[rigid lintel]

Skill issue

[olive pulsar]

got to try that

[gaunt heron]

Crouching with the controls and crouching irl makes dodging them easier.

[meager scaffold]

Sprinting helps, if you see it stop just before it lunges at you, sprinting to the side will usually get you out of the way fast enough.

[grave quiver]

Duely noted

[opaque dawn]

In my experience, regardless of whether or not im sprinting, they'll get me anyway, let alone if im holding my shotgun, or if i have more than 3 items in my bag. Shooting them before they can jump is basically the only way to avoid taking a lot of damage

I think they need a bit of tuning

[grave quiver]

agreed, they look cool as hell but either need their damage decreased or use the same attack profile as the spawn from ITR1, which would justify the damage they deal.

[grave quiver]

I hand to god did not know that

[sour lake]

Duck

[grave quiver]

from my experience they seem to lead their lunges, even if you change course as they're flying at you they still hit you, I suspect its down to hit boxes being jank or my fat ass not moving fast enough.

[opaque dawn]

tried that, cant physically duck fast enough because my legs are fuckin shot

pressing the crouch button yields no results

[sour lake]

Oof yeah the crouch button is kinda high for some reason

I'm sure they'll remove their missile lock on later lol

[opaque dawn]

hopefully lol

in the meantime ill just have to get good ig

its this combined with having to use the grip button to grab the shotgun shells from the loops

keep fuckin swapping hands on the gun instead

why is it not bound to trigger like itr1???!

spawn often come in groups, and a fiddly db shotty is a death sentence

[grave quiver]

yeah some stuff is a bit scuffed, I see the logic behind the new attachment trigger method, but I was thinking they could use the two seperate buttons to turn on each attachment type individually instead of the janky offhand trigger stuff.

[opaque dawn]

i dont so much mind the tuning flashlight attachments on with the offhand manually, its just this one little gripe

it makes the shell loops borderline unusable

[grave quiver]

I also miss the ammo saddel for the felony shotguns

[opaque dawn]

so i just do the classic itr1 trick of putting loose shells in my pouch

[sour lake]

I felt this in my spul

[opaque dawn]

just an odd choice

anyway thats not what this thread's about mb

[olive pulsar]

I'm 100% in the camp that they should stay. Cranking down the difficulty violates the spirit of the game. I want to be terrified of them.

[grave quiver]

I'd atleast want them to move slower, them bastards balls of scissors and HATE

[uncut laurel]

I totally agree with you, but there definitely should be easier options for people who want them.

[bitter forge]

They have a half-second window of sitting still before they aimbot your head. Its usually enough to kill them, but you gotta be perfect with your shooting. I don't mind the difficulty honestly.

[olive pulsar]

Agreed. We just need difficulty levels, and I'm sure those are incoming.

[wind geyser]

Simple solution, 12 gauge. This isn't a bug, move it to #1262860380536049664

[opaque dawn]

it doesnt violate the spirit of the game to make an enemy not guarantee hit you every time they get close. you can shoot them before they get to you, but they move very fast, and with this game, for whatever reason i cant quite put my finger on, the way you handle guns in general feels a bit... floaty? slow? sluggish. to me, idk if its my controllers, there seems to be a bit more floatiness to the general control

[true flax]

One time I instinctively tilted my head to the side while also strafing and it must have offset me just enough for it to whiff right past. 😂

[cosmic solar]

you guys trying to quick draw them are forgettin you are fighting them in a freaking forest
just keep a tree between you and them and they can't touch you

[rain sluice]

TREES!! 🌲 🌳 Trees is their demise! Just hide behind one and violate the damn ball of scissor to your heart's content. I'm surprised there is so little mentions of this strat.
Out in the open vs swarm of them you pretty much screwed, the speed of jump is insane, I would not mind if they actually lead the target and gave a bit of time to dodge.