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You just say that because you shrinkwrap
Or did teeth alignment vary between individuals perhaps?
What metri sub species is most Palo accurate? - Anyone can awnser
The different metri subs are representing different animals
What animals
"Manospondylus gigas" bro just say T.rex đ„
Parkeri - Metriacanthosaurus, based on sinraptor
Latronemus - Yuanmouraptor
The other one - Yangchuanosaurus
knew it ( for Yunamo)
New reconstruction for Carcharodontosaurus saharicus
What's it based on
normal
I believe itâs based on C. saharicus
the body not the skull
bro skipped legday
there's no way, I feel there's a metriacanthosaur-crosscaling going on
bro skipped eating day
Thank you broâ€ïž
i despise yang but the model do be looking rad af
why hate yang
because of PoT mod + PE Yang players actually deserving all the hatred in the world
fair
haven't seen a yang on PE yet but they're insufferable in PoT
they're insufferable in PE too, used to just break head constantly, so annoying
skill issue (as a yang fan)
Enough for this
PE is Prior Extinction, right?
Wait a secondâŠ. How are its hands bigger than its back limbsâŠ. This doesnât make any sense
Bro đ
Because it's primarily quadrupedal
You sure?
Yep. How else could it move
It slid everywhere
pretty sure it only used its legs as flippers
Like this?
something like that
lol a single arm bone
Welcome to the wonderful world of wild extrapolation that is paleontology
At least itâs not as bad a troodon
rip
Is it true if a animal evolved to loose something they can never evolve to get it back? That's why whales can't evolve to go back onto land?
It greatly depends on what said animal has lost
For example, birds lost their teeth, yet today we can see plenty of bird species with teeth-like structures on their beaks
Tetrapods lost their swimming adaptations but have re-evolved them several times
Birds lack scales yet their feathers evolved into scale-like structures on their feet
It's called Dollo's Law of Irreversibility. If homologous precursors are retained things like teeth can be "re-evolved" as demonstrated by genetically modified chicken embryos but in general yes if a complex structure like a limb is lost it cannot be re-evolved, the developmental pathways begin to break down and eventually the necessary genes decay and riddle with mutations becoming nonfunctional
what is considered a "tribe" in classification i've noticed a lot of plants have them but animals dont
They found evidence that amarg did have spikes right?
It's been a while so I don't quite remember the details but they found evidence of tendons pushing the long spins forward from the tip that would happen if they had keratin sheath or something like that
No
So it did have spikes?
Or we don't know?
It had a double fleshy sail thing going on
I bet thatâs how they get females 
Ooh ok. Sorry you confused me for a second lol
Thanks
If they gave amarga a remodel on its tlc
They still can. Tbh most creatures in game could do with a remodel, or at least retexturing.
The new ones just look so good.
Itâs got me staring, i think your right

Most of the playables that are getting a tlc could use a remodel
Stego, allo, amarg, meg, etc
More up to date dinos will be awesome
really excited for allo remodel
^ and stego
https://x.com/Springmorb/status/2039730627793113320?s=20 thoughts on the accuracy?
it looks ai generated texture wise bro i can't
they are about right yeah
utah good
rest abit
chugly
and the others?
why they all wrinkly like elephants
Ass, just like the movie
is it true ai was used in the creation of the dinosaur designs or is that misinfomation?
Why do people hate the movie anyway? I thought it was fine!
the movie was fine, every post and video I saw said it was fine where the heck is this hate coming from
Misinformation? No this is a FULL ON FACT
The movie has an actor who is a "Palm Beach Pete" if you know what I mean
And the movie used AI for their concept "art"
I mean, they had the budget of a burrito and coke. Also, did they discover the palm beach pete later or before the movie?
Okay so here what you do
If you don't have the required budget you want, then don't make the movie or at least try to be a comic accurate
Also before the movie
oh welp there goes my second argument. At least the movie was enjoyable
Okay actually I couldn't find any backup unfortunately as of now regarding the palm beach Pete, but the movie is still ass
so we are hating for the hate of the game
Why does the quetz design look so familiar? Is it ripped from the flying monsters doc?
https://x.com/TM9380/status/2039786242640875952 apparently its from this?
I KNEW IT!
How did they not get copyrighted by universal for the blatant apatosaurus? Did they buy the assets or something?
Jeremy Piven had approximately 8 SA claims (charges?) against him before 2020, wonât say more because moderators but use the name
welp
ENHYDROSS: A New Mechanistic Model Supports the TransâOceanic Dispersal Capability of Terrestrial Vertebrates - Pantelides - 2026 - Ecology and Evolution - Wiley Online Library https://t.co/wUuyp6unEs
It is way more robust so idk
Someone ask julian johnson mortimer on if he worked on this movie or not
I canât wait for Primitive War 2
What is any of this that's being talked about?
I'm doing a dinosaur slide show!! Anyone want to suggest some I should research?
I might have a suggestion: Yingshanosaurus, a species of Jurassic Stegosaur from China.
Aye aye captain!!
Allosaurus
microraptor and apatosaurus
yes, probably
Therizinosaurus or either of the northronuchys
king kong
I know it says mostly dinosaurs but are pterosaurs and marine reptiles allowed too?
Yesyess!!
someone translate this for me, caveman language https://x.com/AndrejSpiridon4/status/2039675974606868482
pteranodon, anurognathus, rhamphorhynchus, quetzalcoatlus, temnodontosaurus, tylosaurus, pliosaurus, and styxosaurus
more dinosaur ideas: Hesperornis, muttaburrasaurus, nanotyrannus, centrosaurus, triceratops, psittacosaurus, stegouros, sauropelta, coelophysis, deinocheirus, baryonyx, dilophosaurus, aucasaurus, citipati, amargasaurus, iguanodon, edmontosaurus, concavenator
Dino swim island to island or great swimmer, across water to other big land area
fi fih fo fum
Sarcosuchus sells sauroniops skulls at the sauropod shack
are there any better skeletons than this?
@hallow spear @stiff osprey please science your comm
Nope, not yet, itâs the best available
there are not. the end
Best stegosaur skeletal as of now, by the looks of it ungulatus might be able to get a updated skeletal before stenops
how so?
how do dinosaur bones give people autism so they get dug and spoken about? why do they forsaken me in my dreams?
Cus of Apex, which is currently being worked on, as it is believed to be a ungulatus specimen
Apex, rally road are both likely cf. ungulatus
what distinguishes the two?
We donât know atm, they are reported on as being ungulatus + the owners of rally road seem to imply it is
how big is apex? has anything been described from it yet?
It has a humerus of 637mm but thatâs all we know for sure
how big does that scale using this?
That's funny
You could even say, humerous
Apex has differing proportions so what it scales to doesnât matter tbh (but if it did, itâd be around 6.9-7.5m)
what stegosaurid helps us most with the understanding of the family would you say?
so 7 meters is likely real? what is this cooldown
Apex will probably end up being around 6.6-7.2m from what Iâve measured
I hope they describe it quick so pot can reference it for their tlc đ
is apex still a box? I know Sophie had crushed hips but the rib cage still seems pretty wide
Indeed
@stiff osprey would probably agree with me on this but they are all fricking azz and donât help jack sht
the dacentrurines are cool. otherwise huayangosauridae mogs
damn, so stegosaurids are the bums of the family that do nothing but are the famous ones?
Dacentrurine are abominations, huayangosaurids are little freaks
and by huayangosauridae i mean huayangosaurus on its own mogs every non dacentrurine stegosaurid
Random can you scale Baiyinosaurus and see if the pinhead is real? Slrhvwk scaled it as such
does it out mog gigantospinosaurus
ik thereâs another stegosaur with a big shoulder spike that has a cool curved big plate, but I forgot the name
i'm skeptical of baiyin's dentary being complete but in terms of the preserved bones it is scaled right
Loricatosaurus, Yingshanosaurus, Kentrosaurus, Gigantspinosaurus all have shoulder spikes, I assume you mean Lori
Hey folks, i have a random question: Yesterday i was reading a bit about cephalopod evolution and the like; and i discovered that there was this extinct species of palaeoctopodid octopus, Keuppia levante which has a very cool and distinct fossil:
What made my jaw drop is how this thing ain't some hard shell, like how it happens with ammonites or other nautiloids. This thing is a full-on body impression and i didn't know that was possible for an animal such as a cephalopod, an organism formed almost entirely by soft tissue.
So, do you guys know how can this happen? Because before this i thought soft tissue dissintegrated before being able to form a fossil, but it seems it ain't.
I believe if the organism dies in an anoxic environment where no microorganisms are able to decompose it, and where currents are not strong enough to transport it, mineral deposition will happen faster than the soft tissues disappear, leaving these impressions
We also have dozens of examples of soft tissue found in animals with hard parts (dinosaurs, mammals, ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs, etc)
This is coolios
Thank you Rand đ
Indeed rand
stego, is there a alternate universe where you liked ceratopsids more then stegosaurids and was called trike?
https://x.com/CorporalRex/status/2039925009754579002/photo/1 also, did ceratopsians anatomy allow them to loaf?
That's a good question đ€
Well, can any analogous big, quadrupedal, horned animals loaf?
Perhaps that could give us some insight even if their anatomies still differ in many things.
Maybe something like rhinos, with legs on the side and sometimes the front legs crossed.
yeah folding the wrists under the body like that is...not going to happen but the rhino pose seems more plausible
Pseudo loaf?
Ironically Iâm not called this because of my love for stego itâs because a very old profile pic I had was a stego rolling around another stego and people always called it derpy
oh.
I just found out today that kamodo dragons use to be hunted by tiny humans
Most ceratopians and ornithopods had a surprisingly good range of motion on there limbs I can see ether pulling this off
Also this is extremely funny to me
I approve
Loaf?
Yea whatâs up
This is usually something you see in low oxygen environments. Full body shark fossils are possible from what would've been anoxic sediments when the animal had been alive.
Ptycodus is a good example
I donât know what was meant by the term loaf for the ceratopsians
To sit in a way where the legs are covered by the animal's torso, appearing as a loaf of bread might
Also orodus. And thereâs teeth to suggest these guys could grow massive.
Itâs when a cat tucks in its paws under them
Oh, got it
Why the heck is orodus reconstructed like that here? Like why is the fin all the way up there?
Full body fossil!!!
Ohh wierd
Largest estimates for these are scary
just curious but what's the maximum estimate based on?
Teeth, but we have a full body fossil of it so itâs not as bad.
Teeth can generally be used to estimate body length in sharks, at least more reliably so than similarly small structures in other animals can
A lot of my current research is on this topic
just a lil surprised given how much bigger that thing is compared to essentially every other paleozoic animal
Wooow
Don't worry, Megalodon wasn't like a great white shark because at its size, a body like that wouldn't be possible
Megalodon wasn't even mentioned
Megalodon is a species of Otodus
It was a bull shark right�
I don't think this is a bull shark
I just canât remember what shark it was related to, so what is it
They mentioned Orodus instead of Otodus
modern lamanids (great whites, makos, etc)
O. megalodon is a lamniod/otodontid in the lamniformes order
There's additionally no good reason to fully rule out some resemblance to white sharks considering their ecology and placement within lamniformes, but yeah, they weren't a 1:1
its a shark
Is a very reductive statement that I resent
Sharks can't be shoved into one broad definition of what they look like
even friggin Parahelicoprion is dwarved
Had no idea what it was either until a few months ago.
It's also worth remembering Makima is small and makes it look extra big LMAO
Still huge for a Carboniferous animal nonetheless
does pentaceratops have 5 horns?
no
Was orodus getting fat off of ammonites?
If ptychodus was, then why not
I luv the big crumch sharks
isn't megalodon related to mako sharks
no
so what would be the closest modern relative
lamniformes as a whole
Epic
why the hell are the claspers so huge
Mitsukurina owstoni
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Because claspers need to huge in order to ensure the female is impregnated⊠no other reason
But they are not a lot of the time in many sharks.
arent fossils technically dead animals toođ€
fossils are (usually) animal shaped rocks
dead animal shaped rocks
now, goats are known to be able to survive headbutting much lager animals then themselves, such as cows, if a goat and a pachycephlo squared up to have a headbutting contest, who would likely walk away with less brain dmg?
is it just me or is the weakness of therizinosaurus claw great exaggerated?
fossil evidence shows that if the wind was just slightly stronger than usual their claws would break instantly. it isnt exaggerated
it would be exaggerating if someone says they break when the wind is normal
so true
Why have claws that weak?
Or, fragile I guess.
The Pachycephalo because its double the size
If they are the same size, the goat probably has an advantage. Relatively speaking, Pachycephalosaurs are not particularly well adapted for headbutting, head-on
arents cows double the size of goats?
Cows aren't really built for headbutting tho, they're built for tussling
Pachycephalosaurs are well adapted for headbutting
so are they or are they not
When compared to other headbutters, they are NOT good at taking head to head collisions
They are worse than almost every Dinocephalian synapsid, with the exception of the least adapted Dinocephalian, when compared to the most adapted Pachycephalosaur
what are animals you considered headbutters? would deer and animals who use horns/antlers to spar count as headbutters?
So is the fossil evidence of the cranial damage thought to be from side-swiping?
maybe the cranial damage came from a head on collision because they are bad at it
I mean if they did it that often then i'd think it would suggest otherwise
Honestly, I would consider deer and moose more of "tusslers" than headbutters, because they're not straight up skull bashing
Ibex and rams? Yeah those are headbutting, even with horns.
My genuine reaction to one of the aquarium sandbars part of my study
Worse in what way, these all have highly pachyostotic bone in the frontoparietal region
Worse as in they can't physically withstand headbutting nearly as much as many other animals
I can dig up the paper from.last year for you addressing this
Are you talking about woodruff and ackermans paper
shrug I don't remember much on it
Well to say they arenât particularly well adapted to headbutting on its own is a very unfounded statement, they show the osteological convergence with other animals known to headbutt, they have the predictive pathologies and osteological trauma associated, their post crania show indications of derivation in order to suit headbutting.
Hence me specifying "relatively speaking" for a specific type of headbutting behavior instead of generalizing that they were bad and not suited for headbutting at all
It doesnât make all that much sense, relatively to Caprines, they are convergent in some features that are associated with the headbutting. they would be described as showing many âparticularâ features associated with adapting to headbutting, so why would one describe them as not being particularly well adapted to headbutting.
You missed the specification of head-on headbutting.
Butthead
and
Shifted vascular canal and drifting osteons in Pachycephalosaur domes show the mechanical load is concentrated at the dorsal apex of the dome, this also where post-traumatic lesions are found in the histologic section. I donât see anything to indicate they werenât smashing head on
I'm not either, but many animals butt heads
Compared to the more extreme headbutters like rams and Dinocephalians, they've got a ways to go
Swimming rodent.
bevis
nutria
Do yall think birds will evolve to have teeth again. Been kind of sitting on this thought for a min
No
how about ceratopsians?
Yes (I've only said this to be a contrarian to fishy)
their both gonna be the same size in this theroretical race
who would be faster?
a ostritch
or
a struthiomimus
that one is faster
Most are more tussle than headbutt. Large horns and frills prevent most forehead bashing
imma assume pachyrhino and achelo are headbutters?
who evolved first
an ostrich or an animal that mimics ostriches?
struthi
Probably? They seem somewhere in between
I think ostriches because They are better adapted for speed due to the fact that they basically have no arms and no tails (compared to the struthiomimus) which Lightens their weight, and i think ostriches are more cursorial when comparing their CLP (cursorial lower limb proportion) scores to struthiomimus
But im definitely not an expert so take my word with maybe 2 grains of salt
Oh also i dont think the Lack of arms and tails in ostriches will really in this due to the fact that you said theyre gonna be the same size
thoughts?
Lmfao
Is carcharodontosaurusâs skull rather short in height compared to other carchs? Or is that kinda just a trope that came from earlier skull reconstructions?
I don't think it was ever "short in height" at all from either recon
Could be display as well, like a big casque
I meant like with the skull being longer, and the nasal area tapering off more abruptly.
yeah kind of
Interesting
His chin so square
yea
thanks to its flexible tongue it kept its tongue on the roof of its mouth. A side effect of that is that it gave birth to the effect of mewing
Is it possible that some dinosaurs that lived in snowy places like Yutyrannus sheded into a whiter coat at winter like some artic Animals (birds included) do today?
Scientifically confirmed behavior â
Is that like a megamouth shark what is that
Not a shark at all actually, but a relative to helicoprion
Is helicoprion not a shark?
No
iirc it's a ratfish or closer to ratfish
This is correct
Does it have a strange jaw like heli or is it akin to like a leed/filter feeder
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They also made some magic beans
More akin to Ptychodus, if that means anything to you
Shell crusher
God damn a crusher? What does it need to be that big for, what was it crushing to maintain damn near Kaiju size
Real
no because dinosaurs are extinct
not in the congo
oh right. the asteroid didnt hit congo thats right. the image looks real too. maybe if someone here is congonian they can help us out
is being sold, shoul i for $5 k, or na ?
buy a real car instead
Not many good cars you can buy nowadays for 5k, but that amount of money for a diorama is also pretty unjustifiable
ye true i meant save up some more and then
YES YOU SHOULD.
-# I am heavily biased tho
ima be 8 real
just get the lego one and swap out the rex for a nanmu rex
MAYBE buy an extra fence lining
same quality
vastly cheaper
that'd be like
under 350 bucks vs over 5k
for the same quality
As someone from Congo I can confirm that's just my dog
hello
ye, u right
you have a dinosaurus in for profile pic dude birds are dinosaurus
i learned about the dinosaurs in congo so its no problem
other then birds?
yes did u not see the picture
@rain galleon look here
no i did not and sorry
nothing to apologize i was just genuinely asking
thoughts?
As in physically keeping them inside? Very likely.
trike loaf!
I love the Alan Grant on the side sm it's so cute đ
Yeah itâd work fine
He is just like me fr.
Whoâs a good boy? Whoâs a good boy?
Bro I want to rub their belly 
how large were sauropods herds? would they be comparable to that zebra herds? or would they be much smaller like elephant herds?
I would say elephant herds. Doubt there were thousands of members in them.
im gonna assume hadrosaurs and ceratopsians were the ones with thousands of them?
iirc the biggest ceratopsian bonebed was like 300 individuals, but hadrosaurs were definitely in the thousands
also, heres heres my own personally terms
hadrosaurs, ceratopsians, Thyreophora sauropods - herd
Therizinosauroidea, Ornithomimosauria - flock
We already know this is fake
so its just a scam?
is it not obivous?
you really think people would just lie for money?
That has to be rage bait cause yes people do that all the time lol
yes.
some people would pay to lie
Interesting question that got me researching a bit. In many mammal groups EQ correlates with group size, though there are exceptions. This is the basis of the social brain theory. Larger groups = more complex relationships = more complex and larger brains. It holds true in primates at least. However research on birds found a negative correlation between EQ and group size, possibly owing to the higher cooperation in foraging reduced the individual cognitive load. The latter might be a better model for sauropods, ceratopsids, and thyreophoran sociality. It's possible ornithopods had more complex systems and larger herds as well.
That's fascinating!
Though i'm still kind of pensative. At least with sauropods, they were some of the biggest (if not the biggest) land animals that have walked on Earth. Given the size, a single one would probably require a lot of food to remain alive; now imagine several of them in a single forested area đ€
That's a lot of mouths to feed a lot of stuff. So i'm not fully sure how they would, yk, eat without fully depleting their enviroment.
Very true, perhaps their sociality changed with ontogeny and at their most massive sizes they were more solitary. Primary productivity was a good deal higher in many representative mesozoic faunas, that would help with larger herbivores. There's no doubt in many formations the sauropods are both the most diverse and the most numerous large animals, suggesting to me a fairly unique ecological dynamic
how capable were the hell creek herbivores of eating the newly evolved grass that was in their formation?
they would have had no problem feeding on and processing grass, it's kind of what grass is all about really
Huh, I thought just grass in general
what browsing level was every herbi in hell creek at? were edmonto's the high browsers or were they more low browsers?
Their C13 and O18 isotope ratios are more similar to Sauropods so they likely are at the mid-high browse.
im gonna assume the ceratopsians + anky and denver were lower browsers?
Yes
struthi, pachy and lepto were also low broswers?
does Someone has a list of the most important/notable rock-formations Eurhinosaurus was found in?
Their different jaw and mouth setups probably let them feed on different things
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Alternatively you could prob dm randomdinos
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what is the dinosaur in the "end of the oak street" movie trailer?
Edgysaurus deathicus
Some theropod. Can't get a good look at it
looks like giga for me from the head/mouth/teeth proportions ^^
Probably some allosauroid, yeah. Going off memory here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Y08ZaFeQQ at 1:10 it could be a spino too lol
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Eh to me it looks like that wedge shaped head we'd expect from stuff like allosaurus and giganotosaurus
big allo maybe allo anax
that is NOT spinosaurus
my guess is either "Edmarka" or some big ahh allosaurid
is edmarka allosaurus anax?
truee! megalosaurus is related to giga or? ops it was mapusaurus
sort of but not very close
It's Allosaurus, specifically the one from Battle at Big Rock
Yeah, It does look a lot like the JW allosaurus
Was that confirmed?
It's the same VFX company lol + pretty sure the roster leak had Allo on it so
Spino
Fair
the shadow around the eye makes it look like it probably has some form of crest too
Ehh
I think it looks more like the dominion one
They're literally the same one with different colors
actually that screenshot makes it look like a giant Monolophosaurus lmao
What Monolophosaurus are you lookin at 
the one from battle at big rock has a much deeper skull
I love how many people are justifying this and the Netflix allosaurus. Itâs basically a stock design atp.
Idk but also that's a really bad screenshot from BaBR so maybe they modified it more than BaBR-Dominion
what is that trike??
Nasutoceratops
I think it resembles the dominion model
we need ONE more allosaurus to seal the deal, trust
Well maybe for the Therizinosaurus pee scene, we'll get a better model than JW:Dominion Theri
I hope!
what đ
if you wanna give them a good theri model, mabye you should make that bald theri you promised months ago
Some promo material for the movie had a Spinosaurus breaking through a house and a Theri peeing on one
I can only assume it's gonna be "I'm marking my territory, protagonists disturb me, I chase them" type of scene but đ„
Also I could but that's effort
!!!
istg if we get another hyper aggressive therizinosaurus
his skull looks completely different from the picture^^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasutoceratops
Nasutoceratops is a genus of ceratopsid dinosaur that lived in North America during the Late Cretaceous period, about 76.0â75.5 million years ago. The first known specimens were discovered in Utah in the Kaiparowits Formation of the Grand StaircaseâEscalante National Monument (GSENM) from 2006 onwards, including a subadult skull with both a ...
Not really
It just has longer horns and is slightly longer, which is a normal amount of stylisation for jurassic world
Jurassic World has never hit the mark for anatomy
This is because Jurassic World is terrible with dinosaur anatomy
Dominion Allo and BABR Allo are the same female individual
Damn, I didn't think they would straight up use JP/JW models lol.
Then again Meg did that with the flashback, but this movie shouldn't be a good example.
Only difference is that the BABR is kinda "starving"
While Dominion is Healthy
Skull didn't change
The End if Oak Street Allo looks like a slightly Modified BABR/JWD Allo(same Exact Allo and same Model btw)
Or they donât care about what species itâs supposed to be and just made up a generic theropod to terrorize the humans
Posidonienschiefer Formation and Jurensismergel Formation. I don't know if the localities in England have official formation names... everyone just refers to the area.
Whats a moschops?
what colors were dinosaurs able to see? would it be more similar to reptiles or birds?
How much moss must a moschops chop if a moschops must chop moss?
Both birds and crocodiles have full color vision and with dinosaurs being archosaurs as well there is good reason to believe they had full color vision too.
reptiles as a whole have pretty excellent color vision
non avian dinosaurs dont see colours
oh
This is because theyâre dead
revive them then
They still wouldnât see color because theyâd just be walking skeletons
I prefer what I saw in Walking With Beasts
not really about what you "prefer" the moose lip is more accurate
No silly, accuracy is subjective and all paleontologists do is make baseless guesses, everyone knows this 
Even more chondrichthyes paleontologists, they only have teeth to work with!
How dare you turn my joke around on me
Has anyone noticed the similarities between the overhanging upper lip of a moose and edmontosaurusâs overhanging upper beak? Perhaps they occupied similar niches?
Similar how?
Oh, shoot I guess theyâre not that similar at all nvm
A rigid beak would have been used differently than a flexible lip. The beak itself would be used to crop vegetation whereas a moose's lip could be used to manipulate and grip vegetation
Its rhamphotheca would overhang the bottom jaw and had ridges. Good for cropping vegetation
Ohhhh thatâs the one, not edmontosaurus
Itâs cool to imagine a lone bull edmontosaurus or shantungosaurus though, all the tyrannosaurus are scared to hunt him
This is Edmontosaurus. Just most skulls don't preserve the rhamphotheca, being keratinous tissue
To be totally honest, I don't think adult large tyrannosaurids would struggle to hunt them. He'd be pretty vulnerable alone
Thatâs true but still fun to think about
Mild overreaction
Aren't JP and JW dinos over exaggerated?
In what manner?
Well they tend to undersell the abilities of herbivores and of T rex. T rex is basically the Jurassic series Worf
Theyâre stuck decades behind in depiction
So not accurate. Cause im pretty sure the Raptors are Utahs ir Dakotas
Yep. They seem to have given T rex a pretty weak bite, should be breaking necks a lot more often.
The raptors are based on Deinonychus but the design simply took creative liberties esp for the skull shape.
How big was Deinonycus?
It's a lil annoying that the JP Raptors were ret-conned by the fans into being Utahraptor or "Dakotaraptor" when Utahraptor was described a year or so after Jurassic Park released
So unless the writers/designers were clairvoyant, they're Deinonychus
They're notably smaller than Utahraptor too
Pretty big
Little did they know Velociraptor was the size of your average turkey
So if they were alive I could keep one?
I mean, if you can keep a mountain lion sure
Perhaps? If you can keep a desert fox?
I think a desert fox is a little smaller than a Deinon
I think deinonychus is more dangerous than any fox lol
I mean they are birds. Bird imprint on thier owners like snakes not like dogs or cats
Oh I thought he was talking about velociraptor lol
Velo is just a turkey. Enough to feed a family on Thanksgiving
Maybe so. Still a very large, powerful animal with a lot of weapons on it. Only takes one incident to kill you
What if I deploy the Velociraptor on your face 
I'll risk it. If it knows me then good. Now a Rex would be impossible to keep. Even an Allo or Acro
I read everything you type with the mauler twins voice
Maybe they were actually solitary so they couldn't bond with you. Hard to say
Didn't a Rex hunt in packs? Like Allosaurus?
Does a grizzly hunt in packs?
Also yeah once we get much past a few hundred lbs, they quickly become impossible to keep for something short of a zoo
Unless she's feeding her Cubs
No evidence for it. Only limited evidence that Allosaurus would have grouped in any way, much less a pack
I think Rex was a solitary hunter
So a modern day JP or JW won't work like ever.
Oh heck no
It could work if you had the funds to build a zoo-grade enclosure. I meant privately owned as pets
Ok now I know if ur gonna keep a dino as a pet if its a Carnivore then a Velo and Deinon are the best options. But herbivores? Cause imagine someone having a Diplo
Psittaco could work nicely and thereâs even smaller herbivorous Dinoâs that would make good pets Iâm sure
Probably a small ornithischian would be fine. Honestly Deinonychus is too dangerous, would be like keeping a big cat. Something like compsognathus would be better
If you were to keep a herbivorous dinosaur as a pet you'd prob want something that doesn't need hundreds of kilos worth of food every day, one that can't maul you or destroy stuff by just moving around
Aquilops, nanosaurus, heterodontosaurus, small pachycephalosaurs like stegoceras
Well a Velo is kinda reasonable. A Carno or Dilo is asking for death on it's owner
This little guy would make a good pet
Velo would even be pretty dangerous. Like a coyote
Anything that is pushing 100+ kilograms and more is a really bad idea
Even animals that weight half as much would still be a high risk
A Coyote is close to a dog if u train it and domesticate it right.
For predatory dinosaurs, even 50 lbs is pushing it
Iâm starting to worry about your pet decisions
there are dogs that almost reach that size, and people can have pets ranging in the hundreds of kilos like horses, so a 100kg pet wouldnt really be an issue for most people
Herbivores of a few hundred kg would likely be doable if you have land
Dog food is like 44 to 50 lbs so a carnivore that wont ask for food, but will do it daily will work. A Herra isn't close. Compy would be like a Chihuahua
Size isn't all that matters, a big dog sized cat like say a serval or a lynx isn't gonna be a great pet. Same could be the case for carni dinos.
Most likely. I cannot imagine most of them would be very friendly or trainable
I think what's also a big unknown is the sociality of these carnivorous dinosaurs
As Doctor said, there's a chance that some of these may have been solitary or otherwise less sociable than dogs, something that poses a problem when keeping abnormally large cats
Depends on the person. Some people can care for panthers and 60kg+ dogs no problem, but others can't
And dogs can hurt you pretty bad anyway. Theropods would be worse with their claws and razorblade teeth. Plus probably a nasty attitude like many birds and reptiles
Just keep an Oviraptor. It ate eggs
That's still taming an animal, not domesticating it which would occur over many generations. And is very very hard
Still not really recommended if you don't have the space or experience in keeping said animals
Abelisaurs would be very friendly ofcourse, Drmeosaurs were very stinky credible sources have told me
Velociraptor would probably be the max size most people could handle
Not me saying as I keep a Edmontosaurus heavy cow in my back yard
I don't think anyone's keeping a 5 ton cow 
The Elephant in the room disagrees
Basically like having a pet elephant lol
And the latenivenatrix is to big. Like Utah or Dakota
Yeah it would straight up kill you. Like Deinonychus
Ignoring the self plug but
Just as an FYI, the TMP specimen is what Laten was named with but it was later lumped into Stenon
Thats a handful to spell.
What if instead of dinos, we all keep small notosuchians. Pakasuchus!!!
So then a Celo, Compy, Velo would be the only reasonable carnivores?
Other guys in that size range too. Microraptor would be cool
Herbivores the biggest you can do is like a cow or a horse. Like anky. I forgot microraptor to
lambeosaurs were cute, cuddly and social like their name suggests
There's other small carnivores too, Noasaurs, Ornithis, etc
Anky is huge. Stick to smaller mid sized dudes
Give me a Galli
I could see Anky being one of those things that rich farmers buy cause they got billions of acres of land and money
Small Alverasaurs might be interesting.
Galli is huge, bigger than an ostrich
"Biggest you can do is like a cow or a horse"
proceeds to use an elephant sized animal as an example
Ok then a small ceratopsid. Not one of the big ones
Like Turanoceratops or smth?
The european ceratopsians so far are quite small iirc
That works
Protoceratops, leptoceratops, etc would be fine. I bet they could take a finger off with the bite though
Iâve got a lil questionâŠ
Iâve only ever seen feathered theropods, but is it possible for others to have feathers? Such as ceratopsians, sauropods, stuff like that
I feel like a finger is an understatement ngl
Very early members of each branch likely did. It appears the sauropod and ornithichian lines lost the fuzz early on
Some small ceratopsians had quills, but not full on feathers, and Pachyrhinosaurus perotorum was proposed to be fluffy but idk how accurate that is now
Also that new ornithischian
Theropods did
Don't think we have evidence of such but its possible, recently there was a small hadrosaur from yutyrannus' formation with very unique quil like structures
Iâm talking mainly about ANY dinosaur that isnât walking around on 2 legs
Yeah lol, probably a hand.
Y'all, remember Kulindadromeus had featherlike down. It's most parsimonious to assume they are related to theropod feathers
It was never proposed to be fuzzy in any professional capacity TMK
It was just "Psittacosaurus had quills and it lived in a relatively cold environment so obviously it had feathers" logic from people like you and me
Haolong might be quadrapedal? I can't fully remember
But then again the stuff on Haolong wasnt proper feathers iirc
Haolong's spines are structurally unrelated to feathers
yeah, but theyre still a feather-like structure aren't they
Like something covering the body that isnt scales
Itâs also on 2 legs so not quite what Iâm looking for ;-;
Not really. They appear to be a totally unique structure unrelated to feathers
I'm not saying theyre related to feathers
Don't think there's any quadrupedal dinosaur w/ evidence of feathers
Probably because the quadrupeds tend to be over 5 tons or in warm climates 
Well they are not very similar to feathers superficially either
Medic tf2 arguing with a lambeosaurus⊠interesting
@tough parcel oh ;-;
Feathered lognkosaurs, trust
By the time the 2 clades got to be quadrupeds, it's likely they already lost the ancestral feathery coats. Could be proven wrong one day though
We also have scale impressions from Pachyrhino specifically indicating no feather coverage or, if there was any, it'd be sparse
This means all Giant Therizinosaurs and Deinocherius must be stripped of their feathered privilages
If you put more than 5 quils on a ceratopsian, the world will end
âŠhow many quills could I put on a ceratopsian
4.9
Letâs say I did smthn like a porcupine, would that work?
That's way too conservative. I'd go with 4.10
One day soon, I might finish my naked Theri drawing but Deinocheirus will be mostly feathered cause good God, are those arms tiny
-# wdym tiny
Dinos were birds so they had fur or feathers of some sort
Make Deinocheirus bald except for having a peacock level tail fan because obviously it had a pygostyle meaning its tail was fully coated in thick feathering
Theri is just a different beast, arm wise
With the Sole Exception of Abelisaurs, they were so peak they didn't need such flimsy integument
Fur is mammals only. Feathers appear to be ancestral to dinosaurs but the herbivorous groups quickly lost them. Also, birds are dinosaurs, not the other way around
I wanna remake my nemegt formation size chart again ngl
I feel like the last 2 were too clustered
The muscle attachments in the upper arm area were kinda rinky dinky
hi
Rex had feathers
Probably
I like the hypothesis they were for raking and scooping aquatic vegetation
deinocheirus had skinny arms?
Might have, but they were likely thin and sparse on adults
Sorta, obviously they'd probably cleave a human in half but from an eyeball and memory standpoint, the arms aren't as robust as similarly sized theropods such as the Theri you see there
Thankfully all we have of Theri is the arms so I can make that comparison!
So no epic arm wrestling match between Deinocheirus and Spinosaurus?
I mean I don't see why not but it'd be unfair as the Spinus had no arms (none are preserved so it was armless in life)
Yes I know what this fella looks like Iâm just asking about speculation
Either way we eat them now
Guys, whatâs the status of Raptor Rex?
The carno would lose in arm wrestling easily. Not even a chance to win.
Hard to eat something that died 66 million years ago. If you like rocks though I won't judge
What if it was against another Carno?
Iâm like a sauropod I need them to help digest 
They're birds now is what im saying. And Carno vs Carno? They'll but heads
Nah, T rex did not evolve into birds. Birds were just another type of dinosaur alongside them that happened to survive
Maybe you should see a doctor about that!
Giga vs Mega arm wrestling match. Giga wins
mega what
-# I want you to look at both our names rq⊠Iâll be fine trust
Megalosaurus
We should name our top 5 favorite Carnivores and same with Herbivores. We don't and won't judge
Herbivores:
- Lambeosaurus lambei
- Lambeosaurus magnicristatus
- Lambeosaurus clavinitialis
- "Lambeosaurus laticaudus"
- "Lambeosaurus" paucidens
Carnivores: - "Hadrosaurus" tripos
- Nanotyrannus lethaeus
uhh idk what else
Well you can't see yourself, that's against the rules
Oh yea good point-
Tyrannosaurus
Daspletosaurus
Deinonychus
Acrocanthosaurus
Ceratosaurus
Triceratops
Styracosaurus
Deinocheirus
Iguanodon
Alamosaurus
Average lambeosaurus fan
Carnivores
- Tyrannosaurs Rex
- Allosaurus
- Deinonycus
- Carnotarus
- Dilophosaurus
Herbivores
- Triceratops
- Diplodocus
- Edmontosaurus
- Parasaurolophus
- Iguanadon
Lambeosaurus was a snack to my Rex
It's hard to choose man
Lambeosaurus laughed at the taxonomic messes that are Allosaurus and Triceratops
Do I have to choose only 1 for each slot..?
How accurate is deinon ingame? The tail looks abit skinny and the pubis bone is very pronounced imo
It's a bit smaller well thats cause im playing it on my phone i mainly play as Deinonycus
That didnt really answer my question
It is too small I think
So the model itself is perfectly accurate, but its size is alittle small?
Like its accurate for the way it looks but the size is small compared to Lat
Ohh yh I get it
It should be like almost the size of Lat just a tad smaller but yeah almost should be the side of Lat. Utah and Dakota were higher then Lat. A velo should be smaller then Deinonycus
I think matt showed deinon's size comparison to a human, And it looked abt right. but yea I agree that it looks puny compared to laten
Yeah cause thats how it was game doesn't do it justice. But it is faster and accurate in speed compared to Lat
Which is funny because Laten is built to be the faster one
Right
Deinon and laten would more accurately be like a wolverine and a cheetah comparitively but hey it is what it is
And Velo would be the honey badger.
And Rapors now arw the closest to Raptors of old. Makes me wanna make a Hawk or Falcon my pet now
I wanna play too!
Carnivores:
Neovenator
Dracovenator
Giganotosaurus
Gorgosaurus
Dromaeosaurus
Herbivores:
Einiosaurus
Iguanodon
chungkingosaurus
Plateosaurus
Stegoceras
Herbi
- Torosaurus
- Tarchia
- Parasaurolophus
- Kentrosaurus
- Styracosaurus
Carni
- Spinosaurus
- Gorgosaurus
- Tarbosaurus
- Allosaurus
- Tyrannotitan
Literally donât have any favorites. They are all cool. 
It doesn't have to be from game
Tarbosaurus mentioned đŁïž
God how Tarbo roared in JWE 2 and 3 i muted it
Never heard it in those games lol
Carnivores
- Maip
- Allosaurus(Fragilis specifically)
- Dracovenator
- Suchomimus
- Monolophosaurus
Herbivores
- Nothronychus
- Augustynolophus
- Diabloceratops
- Kentrosaurus
- Massospondylus
Carnivores
- Pseudocyon
- Paraentelodon
- Prionosuchus
- Pontolis
- Proborhyaena
Herbivores
- Paleoparadoxia
- Zygolophodon
- Eobasileus
- Megalara
- Alierasaurus
Judges you
i am not big on mamals, but from what i recognize its alot of good choices
It's okay, you're allowed to be wrong â€ïž
there's much more to prehistory than dinosaurs
mammals? in my paleontology channel
its more likely than you think
Alierasaurus takes no prisoners
fat
fat.
wide load even
built like a hamburger
Back to front is Patagotitan, Shonisaurus, Giraffatitan, Sachicasaurus, Alierasaurus
Can we take a moment to appreciate a terrestrial animal as fat as Sachi of all things
Bros like 1.5 meters at the highest point but is the same weight as an elephant
I can't tell if they royally added too much to the neck or if the shoulder girdle is way too far forward and angled wrong.
Got any suggestions for fixing it? It's not mine but I'd love to know the issues
Probably this he means, is missing some neck (I could be wrong)
I'd even scoot the shoulder girdle back from that one based on how it's in articulation with Gordodon and the AMNH Coty
A tad more from the sent diagram (the one I sent I mean), even? Just taking notes
Bro y is it fat
to c o n s u m e all the better
then why head so smol
It's a neckless sauropod
Thats the Kirby of the dino world
because he didn't go to the library
28.7 Metric Tons or 31.636 Us Tons yeah this dude's a beast if they add a Pliosaur based on this guy,Tylo Players will be having serious competition.
Cool, very nice
Now let's see the paper and material
In terms of gameplay, what would be a good aquatic to add aside from the current roster?
The material is VERY fragmentary but it's still massive,Using low ends it's still 13.4 Metric Tons
Honestly should've stopped at "The material is VERY fragmentary"
So let's see the measurements and material then, I think the only time a fragmentary animal has retained its size upon public scrutiny is T. rex
K lemme find em
How fragmentery are we talkingâŠ.
I dare because it was an easy joke!
It says "four exceptionally large, near-platycoelous cervical vertebrae" but considering the track record of allegedly large marine reptiles, I have little to no hope
Carnivores:
- killer whales
- slender snouted crocodile
- perentie lizard
- great grey shrike
- mako shark
Herbivores :
- orangutan
- dugong
- parrot fish
- pigeons
- treehoppers
how skinny would a 14.4 meter Pliosaurus have to be to weigh less than 40 tons
I think the real question is does the material actually corroborate such an animal
I highly doubt it
Considering the almost 30 minute silence...
Though I also thought it was longer than that so
Place your bets! Is it gonna be based on:
- Scalebars
- Nothing
- Actual measurements but grossly misscaled
ok its real, but they just used the absolute largest size possible
They are noteworthy for their size, with a maximum width of 269âŻmm, maximum height of 222âŻmm and maximum length of 103âŻmm. Simple scaling and comparisons with cervical vertebrae of Mid Jurassic pliosaurs Peloneustes and Liopleurodon, and the Early Cretaceous Stenorhynchosaurus and Sachicasaurus suggest a total body length of between ~ 9.8âŻm and 14.4âŻm for the Abingdon Kimmeridge Clay pliosaur. Likely the true length was towards the higher end of this range.
Where is this from?
Abstract from a 2023 paper
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.pgeola.2023.04.005
Can't read the whole thing rn
Literally the only paper mentioning the specimen
Yea like, it's objectively a large animal but comparing the measurements to Sachicasaurus shows it's not some sort of god-killer
Hell, I'd say it's within the size range of Sachica which is still big but TMK, not pushing 30 tons
Too lazy to scale myself, but using the lengths given in the abstract, it would range from 13.3t scaled to a 9.8m Pliosaurus, to 44.4t scaled to a 14.4m Sachicasaurus lmao
Oh look it's that specimen i already scaled (top)
I mean a 20 ton animal is still really huge
Well it's definitely not a 29-44 ton animal
I just want a Magical Leoplurodon
Speaking of liopleurodon, were the teeth of the WWD one based on anything from actual pliosaurs?
ark reference
Unicorn reference
âŠthis makes me sad
why u sad
(Because it is not an ARK reference)
Mhm
centrosaurine son or chasmosaurine daughter
chasmosaurinae solos
Is it true that in reptiles, the female is usually larger while in birds the male is usually larger? If so, which way do you guys think dinosaurs leaned?
uh no
Damn
why was I pinged-
In some birds, the female is larger. The most obvious example is birds of prey
So it could really go either way for dinosaurs
a lot of lizards have females with larger abdomens and males with larger heads
it could be if you twist it enough. Only thing is that Ark's version is extremely rare and extremely dogwater so yeah the land blobber with actual magic powers is arguably better
Crocodylians all have larger males, birds it's more diverse but fairly evenly split between males being larger, females being larger, and monomorphism wherein there is no size difference
both, my bet is bigger females for saurischians and bigger males for ornithischians
i could imagine a lot of the big bite-oriented theropods doing the lizard things where females have bigger torsos and males have proportionally large heads
If dinosaurs, particularly ornithiscians, were mutually sexually selecting which seems likely their size difference may be greatly reduced
A sauropod lineage with little to no male-male combat could develop larger females to support larger clutch sizes and resist injury during mating
in jurassic park rexy is very big so females are bigger
How come crocodiles who have a narrow jaw/snout are able to hunt very large prey but when it comes to spinosaurids almost people say they werent able to hunt larger prey but only fish? I dont really know enough to understand it
You're correct in the observation that snout size doesn't stop crocs from taking larger prey, it's just they use a unique strategy of clamping down and drowning the animal that isn't applicable to spinosaurs anatomically. Either way they could take larger prey than fish certainly, and the fish they were eating was quite large in and of themselves
Crocodiles with particularly narrow snouts don't really hunt proportionally large prey, honestly speaking
Same would go with Spinosaurus. But at 8+ tons, a lot of animals are not proportionally large because you're colossal. Spino also lived with some of the largest freshwater fish in history
Dave the filter feeding Cretaceous shark. Does this species have a name?
regina
Yes but I forgot
Appears to still lack a species
Fr?
Yes
As does Don
dave ofc
Bro's head looks flipped
Manâs head evolved another jaw
how does the word get misused so much?
lots of people think any unusually large scale on a dinosaur is an osteoderm
this is because osteo means 'big' of course
âOsteoâ meaning big and âdermâ meaning scale
Itâs simple Latin fr
awesome
So easy fr fr
Excuse me but, what in the flippity flippity flip is this.
This looks like what i would remember from a fever dream about the ocean.
Wait, osteo is "big"? I thought osteo was bone
And osteoderm would mean something like "bone skin".
He's being sarcastic
Ah, sorry
Huh?
Guys what if Juliasaurus turns out to be marshosaurus
The problem with private specimens like "Juliasaurus" is that it can very easily be a known species that was altered to be more sellable or it could be a new species altered to be more sellable
So yea, it's very possible it's Marshosaurus or Allo or a new one or smth else
Put this in PE and make it 3,000 robux
Yeah, I've heard it's 75% complete and I don't know which part is known so it could be a different Species but they reconstructed the skull in a way which makes it allosaurus like or Vice versa
I don't think anyone we can easily talk to knows the material
Solid snake or marshosaurus ._.
It's similar in size to marshosaurus too (6 meters I think) so its very possible (though Big Al was small too but that was due to it being immature and I don't know whether juliasaurus is fully grown even)
Allosaurus has an insane size variation though that could be due to over-lumping
Are the estimates of allosaurus getting up to 12+ meters long any true? I've even heard it could get to 14 meters (maybe I'm confusing it with the saurophaganax Upper size estimates)
"Epanterias" is an Allosaurus (of unknown species) and reaches 11.8 meters long so basically 12
Solid Snake
An animal with the Body proportions of allosaurus Being that big is freaky
14 meter allosaur đ
In the big, modern 2026
Yeah, just take me out
Most Allosaurus are around 8 meters, but most Allosaurus are not fully grown
What have you done
Let's use Ballad Of Big Al for all current Allosaurus scaling 
Don't worry he only appears if you say something negative about the animal
What is he Z boomer 2? minus the drama
By the way how robust was allosaurus compared to other theropods? It almost looks barrel chested in some museum mounts I've seen online
Like with Tyrannosaurus, some specimens are more robust than others, but there isn't as good ribcage data on allosaurus
All i can say is that a 12 meter Allosaurus weighs several tons less than a 12 meter Tyrannosaurus, but more than a 12 meter spinosaurid
Oh hi me
Hello
Did you make the stego stuff?
Kirin commissioned me yeah
Ahhh oki
is this for stego tlc?
Youâd have to ask kirin, he didnât say anything about what it was
I'm hoping martinx uses it to make a stego tlc concept like how they did for thal
the reference pot used made by martinx
This STINKS
OMFG I NEED THIS
May I ask what are their socials?
martin is in this discord under that name
@blazing basalt
thoughts on camp cretascous sinoceratops accuracy wise?
Someone looked at the pose on the one on the left and thought yeah, this looks like a dinosaur
its as far from accurate as you can get vaguely resembling sinoceratops
Ts is worse than how they reconstructed ceratopsians in 1926 đ
I actually like the male sino kinda, not as a ceratopsian reconstruction but just as a creature
"yeah let's take the frog genes literally and make it look like one"
why did they design male sino like that?
I fairness, its a still image from the threaten animation. Doesn't make it much better since the pose shouldn't even exist, but this same game has jumping, running, throwing-hadrosaurs-over-its-shoulder tyrannosaurus
Ahh stance
Itâs like if you got a Pachyrhinosaurus, gave it a nasal horn, bred it with a rhino, and then had a wizard curse it
So bad
not rex but close enough
The "male sino" is the same model as seen in Fallen Kingdom.
You could say it was retconned into being a male for the larger dimorphic features, but I say that people just held on to the "they're all female" plotline from 4 movies ago for too long.
Anyway, that's besides the point. Sino was supposed to be Pachyrhinosaurus according to early drafts of Fallen Kingdom, in which the holes in the frill are based on Patchi from the Walking with Dinosaurs movie. At some point the concept was changed to Sinoceratops (allegedly to appeal to the Chinese audience) and the hole-d frill remained.
the humble sinoceratops
always fun to see the firsts wave of toys in franchises and see what old stuff was too far into production to be changed
Itâs like if you gave Pachyrhinosaurus a horn and diagnosed it with depression
????????
lystrosaurs when you lift a permian rock
she is coming for you specifically fishy
I explained the pose above
Where the frick did the one on the left come from?!
Jurassic World Evolution 3
Looks like it came from the Permian
Again, this isn't the neutral pose for the model
My dad and I actually got into an argument about the name of this toy when we got it at a museum
I was right and he was wrong
Still have this one.
I gave mine a repaint a couple of weeks ago
I still have mine on my shelf
Who else has the og Carnotaurus.
Beautiful.
which?
what in the hell happened...
do we have like, any information on ammonite soft tissues beyond the shell? or is it just entirely speculation
are they more nautilloid like? do they have suckers? cuttlefish/squidlike tentacles? i cannot find any good resources
They should have suckers, and they should have 8 arms and 2 tentacles, and a large siphon
Outside of that is unknown
thank you đââïž
is it true its extremely hard to tell sexual dimoprhism in fossils?
https://x.com/Jay72594128/status/2042019902190506441 are you ready for the revision that hadrosaurs had?
I will not endorse Camptosaurus in musth
The bull Camptosaurus in musth would easily vaporize a Ceratosaurus as proven by that one 2 ton specimen apparently
id take chungus campto over edmusthosaurus
what do you think would happen in campto gets the edmonto revision treatment?
It will be kung fu kicking torvosaurus
i wonder, what stopped campto and co from getting that revision? is it just because people view them as fodder and do not like them enough to change that?
how accurate is this leeds depiction? https://x.com/LiterallyMiguel/status/2041979660796367338/photo/1
When was the last time you heard someone mention Campto outside of a PoT-related context lol
And out of PoT contexts, I would think they seldom refer to the really big one. Vs hadrosaurs where a good few of them got to be pretty monumental
Camptosaurus, for when on the off occasion you don't want to just use Dryo
Basically
erhm planet dinosaur
otherwise yeah
should i believe that Elasmotherium has a short horn or long horn as of 2026???
It had a bump, not a horn
Give me a time machine il tell you.
Stays true to the latest skeletal ig
Woah peak art
In case someone can aid me, I think I asked a while ago but I didn't get an answer
What is current Smilosuchus gregorii sizing?
I saw that some say 9-12 m long, but I haven't found lectures that confirm such and were just websites saying that
Why do I love him
Need somebody to help me explain this properly: Reptillia is a class, then dinosaurae is a what, and crocodyllia is a what?
Linnaean "rankings" don't really reflect evolutionary relationships. There is no equivalence between "classes" for example
Dinosauria and crocodilia are less inclusive taxa than reptilia. Both are branches of reptilia.
WHAT HAPPENED TO MUTTABURRASAURUS
I hate it
I don't like it
Get it out of here
Get it out of elasmaria
I don't want this thing in elasmaria
What am I looking at rn
New muttaburrasaurus paper and reconstruction đ
Based on new material
It has premaxillary teeth
Why
What the hell did they base this soft tissue on
Why does it need to be so wrinkly lol
Why are the wrinkles the weirdest part to you đ
Can I reasonably start fighting things as a sub-adult Sarco?
DudeâŠ
EW WHAT IS THAT THING (no hate to whoever made it, just looks... different)
he looks like he sits outside of gas stations for suspicious purposes
Well that looks shrinkwrapped
It looks gross
It looks so disgusting
I didn't even know what a Mutaburrasaurus was, and now i wanna keep not knowing || I lie ||
My friend looks dehydrated and ready to be stored for several years before consumption.
What happened to this even?!
Yoshi
Lemme tell ya, Muttaburasaurus is one of those cool dinos. Prehistoric Kingdom has made the best depiction of it
What about it? That's a completely different animal lol
That's a cool creature
In what family and clade these guys are?
they're elasmarian ornithopods
Turkey
was*
Is it???
Yea...? That's Choyrodon barsboldi from Mongolia
Oh
It wouldnât look as bad if it at least had a different color pallet
Yeah the color is pretty bad
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ew... just... ew
Looks like something from the Dark Crystal
There's no way this is the same animal bruh
New paper âŠ
Does that automatically mean they are right though? (I don't have much context on what was found)
With new skull material, yes most likely.
So, it just has a lump of bone on the front and no gap in between the front of the snout?
Long thin beak
So it's a selective feeder?
Possibly. I believe there is also something about the nasal bulge being a gland to filter out salt.
Was it coastal? I honestly don't know much about this dinosaur despite it being semi popular
I guess so. Been seeing semi-aquatic depictions now, although idk how plausible this is.
I will say, very unfortunate timing for this to come out after Dead Soundâs âMonsters Down Underâ đ
Yeah..
Oh?
hm weird it has front teeth
SoâŠ. Whatâs the verdict?
Idk
Nothing ever happens
this is wrong, time happens, otherwise we'd be stuck forever đż
Time is a measurement
It looks like it smashed its head in a frickin metal pole while riding a motorcycle
Tbf this one also isn't perfect but its better than most I've seen
true OR false?
False thankfully, the paper reconstruction has no reason looking like that.
Whatâs a better reconstruction then
why does the front view look like a pigeon
Dans prob
https://bsky.app/profile/lordtrilobite.bsky.social/post/3mj3yzbjejc25the paper but there is work be doing to make it slightly more appealing like Olof's but @zealous ravine can say more on it
False
Tbf the overall shape of the paper recon is pretty good, the soft tissue and color are just meh
I plan on doing some retrodeformation and reconstruction on the scans when I have some free time
I love the front view lmao
while Dan's might not be as close as the paper's skull I personally dig that BASAL and more reptiitan like look the head
Its pretty good, but Idk why it doesnt have cheeks and the premax is too short. The beak should also just be on the tip of the premax
So was the beak fairly thin or not?
yes
This seem about right for the material?
snout is too short, which ironically the left one is better at
No, a lot is wrong
Iâm having trouble understanding the change then.
this is the best one yet (complete with correcting the displaced quadrate)
So itâs just the usual reconstruction with a thinner beak?
thinner, longer, less downcurved
I will genuinely give up on paleontology as a hobby if we start seeing bull camptosaurus in musth
I now have a mission
Whatâs the mission Mr president
camptosaurus used its ornithopod cunning and superior speed to defeat its predators
its common knowledge that herbivores are invulnerable to predation and are only scavenged after dying of other causes
Oh i was joking about the Campto in musth joke
Interesting that Muttaburrasaurus has the highest olfactory ratio of any dinosaur yet tested, exceeding T. rex
Pah! A herbivore? DYING???
That's not very forward thinking of you.
carnivores are a better source of food anyway because more people spawn as them
lets make up for it with aquatic mutta
Welcome back trachodon
considering Mutta's newest reconstruction, who would even prey on such... thing like that?
Australovenator looking at mutta and being like "that's it, I'm going vegan đ€ą"
weird ass nonexistent spinosaurid I saw in my dreams. chud artistic rendition
I think I dreamt of a really chopped lookin irritator LMAO
Does he seem.. plausible
Or resemble any irl spleenosaurs
He so little
HE IS!! It flashed before my eyes before I woke up and for some reason my brain specified that he literally wasn't any larger than like. A person
He's barely like 2 people in length too
Visually, it's like a rhamp dilo sucho hybrid with dwarfism
There was some neck vertebrae from a Spinosaurid found in Australia that where quite small but it might have been a baby
o nawr nawt. the baby đđ
Lol
I don't like it can we go back to misinformation posting for mutta specifically just so we don't have to acknowledge this and can live in blissful ignorance
Idc we need to retcon this design NOOWWWW
oh thank God nvm we are saved
Wait nvm it's peak
Mutta mod.. pls.. do this NAOO
This is also why I could never. Mod for path because I cannot imagine working on something obscure or with little material, only for like. a couple weeks or months after release for there to be speculation and new material that turns it into like a completely new animal which my mod doesn't resemble at all and so now my mod looks chopped and I have to sit there like Mr boss from smiling friends going "of course, it's genius... why didn't I think of that..."
Friend for lurd :)
if paleontology is ur power what are you without it
I wish the asteroid was delayed for a few seconds so it hit ocean, and humans never been.
They are vermin who allowed famous paleontologists blowing up samples and dinosaur fossils because they didn't want each other to find the samples first
of all the things to not like certain humans for
You can also dislike other people for other reasons
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8gjxady/ muttaburra news!!
Man Haolong fans must be saltier than the Pacific ocean now that even mutta sparked more interest/discussion than Haolong đ€
It was about the same lol wdym
Idk I remember Haolong fans seething with Spino stealing the spotlight and now even Muttaburra is gaining more discussion than them
whoooa.... the most famous theropod behind T.rex and Velociraptor has more public interest than an obscure chinese ornithopod... this is unacceptable and a moral failure on the part of humanity
we need to kill all spinosaurus fans and researchers so that glupshittodon can get its deserved attention
It's not new skull material: it is redescribed previous skull material (holotype QMF6140)
It does have front teeth indeed.
the beak part of the premaxilla is new material (hence all older reconstructions giving it a toothless iguanodont beak)
Best art Iâve seen of the new recon so far. Seems much more reasonable.
Was it discovered on the site or within the collection?
I dunno, but either way it's new to science
who is this lad
Muttaburrasaurus
mutta !!
WHAT MUTTA bro's looking FINEEEE 
nutter butter. mutta burra !!
ya they revised his dome
it was almost bad but it wasnt now we r cool. there was a false alarm earlier where we feared mutta was chopped
I see, interesting
OMG RANDOM YOU'RE SO ME
I BE FEELING THIS WAY TOO

Tbh about the mutta new look, as long as it's accurate idc if it's ugly or not
I wish it did so I didn't have to to read this stupid message
I thought it had decent material before this?
Same
It did, but it was poorly described
This is a redescription of the holotype for M. langdoni, specifically the skull material, postcrania comes later
Is there any dinosaurs you hope get a redescription soon ish?
Mapusaurus.
CRUZADO-CABALLERO, GIVE US ARENYSAYRUS REDESCRIPTION AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
Charonosaurus would be cool too, but its a bonebed so like
When it comes to being insanely important/popular genera with awful descriptions, always place your bets on Allosaurus, Edmontosaurus, and Triceratops
What dinosaur or other Mesozoic animal has the best material description, outside of hell creek of course?
Probably Psittacosaurus or smth
thats not a dinosaur
Shh⊠donât tell a sarco what it can and canât be
sarco will never be a crocodile
Poor sarco not gettin any love 
Sarcosaurus
Or trex/corythosaurus. trex is always described as 6-8 tons and cory is almost always just canonfodder ok i actually might not understand the discussion
Anybody know much about fossils?
I just moved to the ocean side, not even a km from a huge ediacaran geo site.
My backyard is littered with treasures but I'm new to this stuff - if anyone has any knowledge and doesn't mind chatting I'd love an @ or DM.
I know this is kinda off topic but figured worth a shot lol
That's not what a description is. A description is when the material for an animal has pictures taken of it and published along with measurements and stuff
i figured but im done deleting messages so we are all gonna have to live with em
Two coughing babies here and one nuclear bomb
Edmontosaurus shouldnât be in here. That is because I donât think itâs even been properly described as a species to begin with.
i mean campione and evans does kinda do that
Stegosaurus, Tuojiangosaurus and like every other stegosaur too
I guess allosaurus and edmontosaurus just need a taxonomic revision more than anything
Giga is pretty popular too
yutyrannus really sucks as well
Ngl I wish Charonosaurus had its postcrania described so we could know if it's truly a Tlatolophus clone
I like palaeontology I have been listening to that podcast terrible lizards on Spotify but I donât know a lot you lot sound smart
i mean it is described even if there's only drawings
if in doubt always remember, everything is a cell-composed system clone
Is it? Where?
(allosaurus being the hydrogen bomb)
godofreit et al 2001(?)
Godefroit et al., 2001 only figured the skull material. None of the postcrania was figured
thats godefroit et al 2000
oh
Hello
They figured more than I thought. I'm too tired to edit all of this onto a skeletal rn đ„
Can you see my messages
Ah ok itâs saying something about activating slow mode whenever I type thereâs a cool down
I like the patterns
i think the Isles rex or ours if it was more bulky on the neck
Probably, although I think that the weird dog-like lips are a speculative aspect