paleontology

[hardy sentinel]

Me when bro gives me the potion of organ, flesh, feather, blood vessel, and blood transparency

[misty current]

Is anyone online right now?

[hardy sentinel]

You tell me cro

[fluid inlet]

Such a shame we got walking with dinosaurs 2 and it was nothing like walking with dinosaurs , like they just had the name to try to gain more attention

[wooden bluff]

is it abelisaurus really a majungasaurinae? from this article

[balmy oyster]

It lands there sometimes, but it never has a stable placement in phylogeny since it’s only a skull (& tmk not the best described one) so take it with a grain of salt

[bright veldt]

As far as I know abelisaurid taxonomy is absolute garbage.

We’re confident that abelisauridae as a family exists but anything more specific than that has always been a mess.

[plush fossil]

Excuse me if this is a dumb question but if birds nowadays have like...skin? Without scales I think? (Apart from their legs iirc) underneath their feathers, would prehistoric birds have scales all over their bodies or just on their feet/wherever else?
-# if this doesn't make sense lmk I'll try to explain better

[mellow prism]

It clearly differs from carcharodontosaurids, but its closer to them than to abelisauroids (at least in the matrix from the Santanaraptor & Mirischia paper, which actually samples both clades quite well). Tbh Im pretty convinced there are no solid arguments for abelisauroid affinities of Bahariasaurus

The scapulocoracoid is very similar to Baryonyx, but also to Joaquinraptor. Since this individual is associated with caudal vertebrae, which are clearly not spinosaurid but are generally identical to Bahariasaurus, I think this individual (consisting of a scapulocoracoid and vertebrae) can be referred to Bahariasaurus. But even if this scapulocoracoid were to turn out to be a spinosaurid, it would not change the validity or chimerism of Bahariasaurus, because this individual is reffered material, not part of a syntypes. Overall, there is nothing to suggest that Bahariasaurus is a chimera or an invalid taxon.

[runic heart]

Oh nice

[green helm]

whats the recent size of mosasaurus

[brave nova]

8.2t

[green helm]

there was a image of it right the weight

[green helm]

source for it?

[torn hemlock]

My dad found this around souris gravel bed in Manitoba anyone have clues to what it might be I already assumed it was a Tylosaur tooth or some sort of mosasaur

Need help identifying it my dad suspects it might also be a claw or something I doubt it tho I would love this to be a Tylosaur or mosasaur find

[runic heart]

Are the ribs here properly swept? Cause they just look shorter. Idk if it makes much of a difference in terms of external looks.

[fossil ingot]

Just use Tosha's Mosa

[brave nova]

No scale bar or which specimen it is

[fossil ingot]

True, but atleast its the skeletal diocled used

[brave nova]

Ig I could add the scale bar onto it with diocleds

[torn hemlock]

Here’s more pictures of it from different angles

[tough parcel]

Looks more like a long bone, maybe a femur head

[severe yew]

maybe a coprolite

[torn hemlock]

Maybe it looks like a tooth but the way it’s brittle makes me think it might be XD

I used google image and it says it might be a T. rex tooth but I could hardly believe that

[tough parcel]

What is with the X 💀 it can't be a tooth because it flares out more like an attachment point than any spade tooth I've seen

It probably isn't a coprolite unless the dung shape was worn away (it looks unnaturally smooth) and it seems to be one shape instead of multiple lumps

Oh it's Sea being weird again

[little mauve]

Long bone or a rib would be my guess

[tough parcel]

So what I said!!!

I doubt rib due to a lack of curvature but it is broken incredibly early so

[spice latch]

Yknow there’s a lot of mosasaur talk here ngl

[torn hemlock]

My dad also found A gastrolith aswell I think in the same area not sure

[tough parcel]

Tbf, being found in the "Souris gravel bed", I hesitate on labeling anything a gastrolith unless explicitly found within the torso of an animal

[torn hemlock]

But they can’t be found away from it?

[little mauve]

https://www.thefossilforum.com/ theyre pretty good at IDing stuff on here

[tough parcel]

Gastroliths are smooth stones worn by digestive processes

In a gravel bed (or really anywhere), I dunno how you'd distinguish one from normal rocks

[torn hemlock]

Hm well it’s basically the size of a small bolder that’s round enough for us to suspect it to be

[tough parcel]

How big is a "small boulder"

Also rocks can be worn down by erosion too

[torn hemlock]

About this size approximately

[tough parcel]

If it looks similar to that, that can very easily be a normally weathered rock

Still neat tho

[spice latch]

Like… on phone? Couple inches in diameter?

[torn hemlock]

I’ll take a picture of it wen I can find it in his collection

[torn hemlock]

I would be surprised if my thing is actually a T. rex tooth fragment but I had no idea I could be just exaggerating but I hope it might be

[spice latch]

It does seem to resemble the base of a tooth…

Although to me it looks more like a claw then a tooth

[torn hemlock]

But what kind there’s so many :’)

[spice latch]

That’s a dam good question

I’m not as knowledgeable on dinosaur bones as I am other things

[tough parcel]

Teeth do not look like this

[little mauve]

Doing some research into Souris and it looks like it produces fossils from the paleozoic to the cenozoic. So odds of preservation are that it's relatively recent and some kind of herbivore

[spice latch]

What about claws was I right

[tough parcel]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of the smaller primitive ungulates (I forget the name rn 💔 )

[little mauve]

Or a horse or deer

[coral forge]

like anomalocaris?

[torn hemlock]

Maybe It bugs me that I don’t know it’s true origins

[spice latch]

That is not an arthropod fossil, no way

[tough parcel]

Those are ungulates yes

@spice latch I doubt it's a claw, it'd have to be incredibly large to lack curvature even at the base

[torn hemlock]

So many things it could be :’)

[little mauve]

Tru, I meant they don't necessarily have to be primitive theres ice age stuff in there

[coral forge]

-# I know thats the joke. (It is probably a recent herbivore therefore it is the oldest known carnivore)

[tough parcel]

I said primitive as a placeholder because I don't know ungulates that well beyond the animals that size during that time probably aren't their derived forms lol

[spice latch]

Possibly a fragment of the shoulder blade of an ungulate?

@coral forge -# I’m bad at this I’m sure other people got the joke

[tough parcel]

Too thick, shoulder blades are really thin lol

Plus while it does flare out, it doesn't flare as much as you'd expect form a shoulder blade hence the proposal of it being the end of a long bone

[spice latch]

We don’t exactly have a side profile, do we? Maybe I’m wrong about that

We do I need to shut up -.-

[outer tusk]

Aura loss

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[tough parcel]

To my untrained eye, it looks like smth from this area

[spice latch]

Look I’m used to looking at ALIVE horses not dead ones >.>

[outer tusk]

Horse are so freaky looking

[tough parcel]

I lied, it's more likely from the other side

[spice latch]

I took this picture of the silly guy

[outer tusk]

I love when animal can portray any emotion or feelings someone can put on it solely based on angle of an image

[spice latch]

(He tried to eat me right after)

[spice latch]

I believe it might be lower down towards the hoof, number 12 on the diagram

[little mauve]

Deer tibia

[coral forge]

deer radius?

[tough parcel]

I was right all along

[spice latch]

Now hold on we don’t know for sure

[outer tusk]

We do

[tough parcel]

Tbh "Small ungulate long bone" is close enough

[coral forge]

it does also look like the head of a scapula but it doesnt thin enough to be one though

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/rizzler-slow-turn-what-did-you-just-say-to-me-rizzler-real-name-gif-9817110533738289471

[outer tusk]

I know it's crazy, 2026 just started

[spice latch]

I know this is off topic, but do ya think latens friendly call could actually be real coming out of a dinosaur?

[coral forge]

any sound can be real coming out of a dinosaur because lyrebirds exist

[spice latch]

Ok but like
A dead dinosaur
Prehistoric
You knew what I meant

[outer tusk]

Given how close troodontids were in correlation to aves, it wouldn't be farfetched to see something similar to modern dinosaurs

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-bro-celebrating-best-friends-squid-game-2-my-guy-gif-8389215730122450876

[tough parcel]

Actually JP is accurate because I went back in time and the dinosaurs told me that was accurate

[outer tusk]

Yes

[spice latch]

Ah…
This horrendous creature is real now
I want to go back

THEY MADE MY BABY DILO SHORT WHEN ITS BIG IN THE NOVEL ILL NEVER FORGIVE THEM

[outer tusk]

Erm actually it's a juvenile! and the novel one represents the only adult, and largest specimen

also am surprised we don't have a POT™ nerd emote

[coral forge]

I mean the call sounds like it was based mostly on songbirds so like ig

[little mauve]

Passerines have highly derived stuff going on with their brains that allows them to sing and mimic

[spice latch]

No it’s not .-.

[little mauve]

Troodontids would have needed to evolve a completely independent system, which is possible but not supported by our current understanding

[frosty cedar]

https://paleonerdish.wordpress.com/2021/12/22/a-dinosaur-embryo-exquisitely-preserved/

I've seen this image float online, thought that was how it was preserved lmao.

[frosty cedar]

No, that's just how dilophosaurus look like in JP/JW universe.

Maybe between the "accurate" one and cloned one would be some minor difference, according to Dominion. Like it didn't have venom, for example.

[ancient crystal]

Lets be real, with how moderation is on this discord, they'd sooner blacklist any variation of the nerd emoji than make one of their own

[rich vessel]

Do yall think there were multiple d-rexes? Like what happened in Camp Cretaceous with the scorpios rex. (Just a thought I had that could maybe explain why the d-rex changed sizes throughout its screen time)

[ancient crystal]

Well if there were we sure didn't see any of them

[tough parcel]

Y’all are overanalyzing a joke

[lavish frigate]

I love how the way you know it’s accurate isn’t because you saw the dinosaurs and they looked like JP ones, it’s just because the dinosaurs told you it was accurate

[spice latch]

Which one of these is the best

[rich vessel]

Do you mean at the same time or is that a joke/sarcasm saying that there isn’t a logical reason as to why there are multiple sizes?

[spice latch]

Pretty sure there’s just one of those UGLY mutts

I hate the d Rex so much

[wicked shell]

Seen this a lot

[rich vessel]

Yeah, I’m not sure why I’m tryna put logic in a movie where the logic is little to none

[spice latch]

Oh lord the logic is…. Interesting

[coral forge]

3

[coral forge]

I think its a joke about how little screen time it got despite being one of the main antagonists

[spice latch]

Ok I thought so but just wanted to see others opinions

[rich vessel]

Yeah, all that talk about mutants and hybrids and yet they got as much screen time as the other regular dinosaurs and reptiles

[outer tusk]

I forgot to 👆 this message

[balmy oyster]

I love how everyone overuses the term “I love how” even though there is no love and just blatant spite amongst one another

[lavish frigate]

No I genuinely do love it, it’s le funny

[outer tusk]

same here

[hallow spear]

i love how you exist. its facinating

[charred hearth]

THIS onehttps://x.com/pathoftitans/status/2008659431760777281

Path of Titans (@pathoftitans)

Introducing the Paraceratherium from the new mod creators, Prehistoric Expanse! This Rhinocerotoidea is one of the largest terrestrial mammals from the Oligocene Epoch. It has unique tusk-like teeth and uses its tall legs to fend off predators with strong back kicks and

X · Jan 6, 2026, 9:58 PM

[spice latch]

its funny because earlier today I said I was making one because no one else was and NOW ITS HERE im still gonna make one but its real funny

[charred hearth]

could paraceratherium actually rear up on its back up legs for prolonged times? like...1 minute maybe

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

[full lagoon]

Bad writing isn't the same thing as thoughtful lore, unfortunately.

[outer tusk]

^^^^^^ YES YES YES FINALLY

[full lagoon]

I don't think any very large animals rear up for anywhere near a minute anyways, or quadruped animals in general for that matter.

[coral forge]

why does this have to happen the night before I'm about to be away from home for 4 days 🥀

[halcyon cobalt]

if power scaling TikTok taught me anything it’s that paraceratherium was the fodderest fodder ever

[tough parcel]

The paraceratherium, being a rhino, was unfortunately unable to access musth...

[thorn grove]

Pot should add musth as a combat call

[jagged trellis]

nah but you see if given the mohawk, it can go super saiyan blue lite edition, balancing out the musth scaling!!

[torn hemlock]

My dad’s suspected gastrolith

[wind prairie]

unironically yes
I know it's a paleomeme but it'd be too funny

[surreal stone]

Any good papers on the waterways of the Morrison or otherwise jurassic colorodo?

[balmy oyster]

i love how (you)

[spice latch]

(unironic)

[balmy oyster]

[fluid inlet]

Miragaia valid

[queen oar]

they should add boat horns for the Hadrosaurs

[balmy oyster]

Great time for stegosaur fans

Two pretty complete stegosaurus specimens being worked on, miragaia remains valid, and we keep getting more evidence of cretaceous stegosaurs (as fragmentary as they may be…)

[thorn grove]

tbh idk what that means but i agree

[queen oar]

i'll send in dm

[ashen wedge]

Would Kentro be in late Jurassic/early Cretaceous time period?

[balmy oyster]

Late jurassic

[ashen wedge]

Alright, just wanted to double check just in case if they were on the barrier of late Jurassic

[spice latch]

I dont think people ever really think about how huge some of these things are so here ya go, in this order. Paraceratherium, Quetzalcoatlas, Tyrannosaurus rex + Sachicasaurus, Argentinosaurus

[spice latch]

although I will state I am uncertain that the argentinosaurus picture shows is an accurate size, I tried to look into it but couldnt find much

[balmy oyster]

this reminds me of a sachica mount I saw on insta earlier, let me see if I can find it again

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[balmy oyster]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DSxgLOrDH-O/?igsh=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==

_quagga

Likes

1357

Instagram

[spice latch]

good lord thats insane

[balmy oyster]

A truly enormous animal. Would’ve been terrifying to encounter if still around.

[charred hearth]

does anyone have a size comparison of sachi with some modern whales?

[queen oar]

Evoincarnate should have one?

[spice latch]

yknow I actually cant find a good one, ya got me

[spice latch]

I was GONNA use this one but then after looking at it for 2-3 seconds I realized its ai -.-

[charred hearth]

why are they all sharks

[spice latch]

dude I have no clue

[queen oar]

because AI isn't able to process the concept of a Toothed Whale, neither Marine Reptiles.

[spice latch]

that makes me better then those clankers

[queen oar]

I guess?

[spice latch]

-# your supposed to say yes 100% affirmative okey dokey

[charred hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-sob-looks-looks-up-and-down-stares-gif-14387979942218882666

[ancient crystal]

Not sure its doing so hot on the shark concept either tbh

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-droid-roger-roger-bump-gif-2155536895475091112

[spice latch]

well the orca at the bottom isnt HORRENDOUS for a shark
though it does have the wrong front fins
and is missing some of the back fins
and is an ORCA and not a shark
but yknow
F for no effort

[queen oar]

Oh no, you see, it understands what a Shark is... But it doesn't understand Hydrodynamics.

[ancient crystal]

"The ultimate sea predators"

Includes the blue whale, renowned frightful predator of krill

[charred hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-krill-issue-whale-gif-26393000

[spice latch]

I mean I would say it counts as an ultimate predator
its bloody huge

[queen oar]

It's shrimple as that.

[runic heart]

I believe all of these are oversized.

[spice latch]

are you gonna provide evidence to back that up...?

[charred hearth]

livy being over meg

[queen oar]

Me when the Omegatheriodon is actually a 5 meter long Paraceratheridae

[runic heart]

Well sachicasaurus is at most 36 ft long, so that skull is ridiculous.

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-homelander-yuyocomepingas-ayudaporfavor-gif-26089820

[ancient crystal]

Perhaps, but I would say ultimate is a pretty heavy handed word to use for something that pretty much exclusively eats plankton

[runic heart]

Paraceratherium skull looks about right, but the quetz and argent are also weirdly huge..

[spice latch]

they had giant heads and stubby tails ._.

[queen oar]

tbh, most things can't really harm it. So I think it can take that title... But then we invented plastics, and yeeeeeeeaah... Not good.

[ancient crystal]

Fairly certain the quetz is forced perspective, that same image's size has been called into question in this chat before

[opaque kayak]

Holy size

[queen oar]

btw, do we even know if that sculpt is a Quetz or not?

[ancient crystal]

Well, the title is ultimate predator not ultimate predator defense

[balmy oyster]

my favorite shark species, the large mammalian delphinidae species.

[charred hearth]

do any mosasaurids actually get bigger then max size orca's?

[queen oar]

so it was Ultimate Predator offense?

Damn, the Blue Whale is gonna be canceled on social media.

[spice latch]

just from a VERY quick google search

[ancient crystal]

I like how the AI appears to have to have both generated a bunch of extra "sharks" and then labeled them all megalodon

[spice latch]

seems to be longer but maybe not quite as chunky

[queen oar]

I think some people have said that silhouette is a little bad? but idk

[queen oar]

How long is max size Orca again?

[ancient crystal]

Off the top of my head its close to 10 meters

[plush fossil]

Listen to Australian magpies, they sound decently similar to latens friendly call

[queen oar]

a lot of Mosasaurs should be longer than that no?

I can't think of many examples because i'm really stupid with those guys, but like Tylosaurus proriger, Mosasaurus hoffmani?

[spice latch]

ok but could a prehistoric animal realistically make that noise?

[little mauve]

Probably not

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/principal-skinner-yes-seymour-skinner-the-simpsons-enthusiastic-yes-gif-15806751

[spice latch]

keep in mind as well, length isnt the pure size, it generally comes down to mass

[hallow spear]

True, and counter note, there’s more early Cretaceous stegosaurs than there is late Jurassic stegosaurs

[fossil ingot]

Prob yeah

[plush fossil]

Probably, maybe some sort of bird yeah if I had to guess

[balmy oyster]

I wasn't aware of this 👀

[hallow spear]

THATS CAUSE YOU ARE EVIL AND DONT READ MY LIST I SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON

Self insert
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1daH6tAugxhuvwSf4JBWcpGbLGGfAW_ugzN0O68kiqDs/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[fossil ingot]

Plio Sp rules

[queen oar]

what if he is ragebaiting you?

[charred hearth]

would stegosaurus itself be able to go on its hind legs? ( even if its a short time )

[plush fossil]

Stegosaurus doesn't have legs so idk bout that

[hallow spear]

Yes

[queen oar]

Do you know what is a Stegosaurus' favorite music?

[charred hearth]

wasnt there a study that juvie's may would have ran on their hind legs or something?

[hallow spear]

@balmy oyster you would never ragebait me… right

@charred hearth no, just some trackways of a juvenile that seem to be bipedal + small stegosaur trackways from Spain showing bipedal trackways of a kentrosaurus like animal

[charred hearth]

stegosaurid were a derpy and fish was a cute....

[plush fossil]

Breaking news: stegosaurs were actually hominids

[outer tusk]

just fyi if someone didn't already explain this this is NOT the largest orca not is this recon of the Thalassotitan even good

[balmy oyster]

no, I do not...enlighten me please

[balmy oyster]

no im just stupid

[queen oar]

Camel by Camel

[balmy oyster]

i dont fully understand but this is still funny

[plush fossil]

Just saw you get sniped rip

[hallow spear]

Why did that happen it was all meant with respect 😭 there is nothing wrong with being woke I just didn’t know how else to ask it

[queen oar]

Well, I guess I don't get to answer that.

[tight kettle]

Please keep this channel on-topic with paleontology-related topics. All other conversations can be taken to DMs.

[ancient crystal]

I KNEW IT

I was about to make a joke about how we were getting off topic and a mod would appear, but I didn't want to jinx it

[hallow spear]

I personally think I have a way with words, I’m so good at them when I can spell properly (I’m lying probably)

[outer tusk]

this is my new favorite apatosaurus recon (art by Mylodon)

[queen oar]

spell prestigious

[hallow spear]

Peanuts

[wicked shell]

I wish I could see this one day

[hallow spear]

Boringggg, see the amazing APEX the stegosaurus, it’s goated

[wicked shell]

I mean
Both cool

But yeah
Big skeletons so so cool fr

[queen oar]

the skin of their necks was tight on the underside?

[fossil ingot]

Max size Orca is like 10t
Tylosaurus is like 9t at best

[long halo]

omg my favorite fossil !!

[compact leaf]

never getting published, sentenced to limbo

[hallow spear]

Unfortunately you will be silenced forever because I can confirm it will infact be published (eventually)

[queen oar]

( in 2101 )

[compact leaf]

not before I eat the fossil

[charred hearth]

any other mosasaurids larger then tylo or nah?

[queen oar]

Would you eat a Apatosaurus vertebra?

[fossil ingot]

No, Tylo is the Largest
Mosa is 2nd

Orcas are Funny Built Animals
Look at this proportions

[compact leaf]

it has occurred to be that stegosaurs and brachiosaurs are both in that weird situation where there’s a ton of them in the cretaceous all over but they’re very poorly known

[outer tusk]

^

Fusuisaurus being one of them

[hallow spear]

Guys go read my stegosauria database sheets it’s rlly cool :3

[queen oar]

How would you guys do a Parasaurolophus enclosure or pen of some sorts? Very Paleo-Related, and because i'm playing Minecraft with mods.

[queen oar]

That thing is a Brachiosaur again? Damn

[outer tusk]

no it's a shark

[queen oar]

Truly it's a oversized Iguana

[hallow spear]

Which mod, I wish the paleo mods were updated to 1.21.1 :(

[compact leaf]

I love fusuisaurus so much for coming out of nowhere and being absolutely gigantic

[queen oar]

Fossils and Archaeology: Revival. It's 1.20.1, mostly focusing on a farm experience.

[hallow spear]

Goated mod, I do wish it was ported to 1.21.1 faster tho, I want to play it alongside Cobblemon

[wicked shell]

Is purussaurus the largest crocodilian ever?

Heard it has a big bite force too
Like bigger than trex

[fossil ingot]

Its the biggest of the fam?
Yes
Highest Bite Force?
Prob no, its High but the Biggest Rexes likelh outclass it

[wicked shell]

Also heard of a cool crodilian
Called kaprosuchus
Apparently they galloped and had long legs?!

But they only found a skull so far

[fossil ingot]

Kapro ah yes
Cute Fella

[fossil ingot]

Fat Pholidosauridae, Bobblehead Stem Crocodylian and a Fat Caiman
The OG Big 3

[runic heart]

Love the scales and that neck. Still not a fan of sauropods not having a greater deal of fleshy covering on their foreheads.

[runic heart]

How do we know pliosaurs had thick necks?

[ashen wedge]

What are the chances it can become its Primitive War size?

[fossil ingot]

Who knows
Its Closest relative has decent size range

[runic heart]

So accuracy-wise… how is the new ds prognathodon compared to the mosasaurus..?

[fossil ingot]

Thats a chunk prog

[runic heart]

Yeah idk how the same guy that made the perfectly accurate mosasaurus messed prognathodon up that badly.

[opaque kayak]

How long is this prognathodon?

[runic rover]

I still don't get what on earth happened to deinosuchus

Like how did it get chibified to this extent

[warped peak]

Because Fadeno never did a good job restoring it

[balmy oyster]

And also the scans that came out were very beneficial to understanding measurements and proportions

Best way to get accurate anything will always be 3d scans

[opaque kayak]

Ig it returned to normal since iirc fadeno's deino was the only huge one, deinos before were like 11 meters or sm

[balmy oyster]

I dont think even scalebars got as big as fadeno got his

[fossil ingot]

Cause 3D Scans came to save our Life and understanding of the Animal, and Cause Fadeno upsize Moment(12-18t Para and 8-10t Anky )

[outer tusk]

18 para was just a footprint which should've already told you it was up

[opaque kayak]

11 tons

[runic heart]

Yeah but the new max estimates are like 9 meters tops with the proportion change.

[outer tusk]

do we considered the largest the max?

[fossil ingot]

9.2-9.7m
9.7m MAY be oversized but me it works

The 9.2m Specimen (TMM) and CM 963 are prob Big Males
Is it the MAX, Possibly no?
We know how Crocodilians are but doesn't garantee we will get a bigger one any time soon

Or well is it Crocodilomporth in Deino's Case lol

[runic heart]

Well I meant max estimates from the largest specimen, which is guess is unlikely to be the largest deinosuchus.

[granite thicket]

Crocs have big size variations
Note how most male salties are slightly over 5m but handful of them go past 6 and biggest almost hits 7
Biggest deino ever was prbly around 12m

[bleak rose]

Kaprosuchus my beloved

[bleak rose]

What an absolute tank

[granite thicket]

Damn
tbf 10t+ estimates existed since like 2018 I think

[halcyon cobalt]

Hydrodynamics I presume

[bleak rose]

It does make sense in my head.

A bullet/triangular shape would probable be more hydrodynamic than a long neck

Wait, not long. I meant to say thin

[halcyon cobalt]

it is, and that’s why most fast moving aquatic animals have practically no discernible neck

[bleak rose]

Looking at great white sharks and tunas

Yeah that checks out

[pulsar galleon]

Massive head needs massive neck as well

[granite thicket]

Kinda funny how long necked plesiosaurs are reconstructed with slender necks usually

[fossil ingot]

12m😭

Also yeah, Edgar/Big Saltie been 6.7m is quite an Outlier, Specially when even Lolong was 6m and most average Smaller
The Paper where Deino was said to not be able to Highwalk and just drag itself gave a size if 3.7t which can be "suggested" to an possible Average
Given the Big TMM Specimen and Likely CM 963 are Big Adult Males

If you wanna say Deino can be 12m, Might as well say Puru can be 13-14m

[bleak rose]

Random speculative question: are long tails a deal breaker for giant pterosaurs? Or it could've been theoretically possible to have a long tailed giant pterosaur (and by giant i mean Azhdarchid-sized)

[granite thicket]

I was just saying there was probably that one abnormally big one that existed at one point in time
Ik deino is like 10m at best

[granite thicket]

Its prob cause either long tails limit dynamic flight or rhamphorychus and its relatives having short inner wings was the problem and not the tail itself

[outer tusk]

Edgar, the goat mentioned

[fossil ingot]

Who knows
Not much evidence
Impossible? No
Likely? Prob not

Basing Size of Variation is just not that Convenient
Cause there is not proof of they existing other than trust variation

[pulsar galleon]

note that within the last several thousand years there were 8+m salties

[stiff osprey]

There were?

[pulsar galleon]

I believe so, it might be 10's of thousands of years, i could be misremembering

[stiff osprey]

I meant how do we know they are c.porosus

[pulsar galleon]

Yeah I rechecked, we don’t know, my bad

[stiff osprey]

oh ok

[runic heart]

How do we know pliosaurs necks were so thick? Lack of flexibility or something?

[fluid inlet]

O ok

[warped peak]

Soft tissue in plesiosaurs

[runic heart]

Oh neat. Which specimens?

[queen oar]

https://x.com/SteveBrusatte/status/2008937855754924133?s=20

Steve Brusatte (@SteveBrusatte)

A shake-up of the dinosaur family tree! Rhabdodontids are not ornithopods. They are ceratopsians.

There were horned dinosaurs in Europe! As shown by a new fossil of Ajkaceratops from Hungary!

Check out our new study, led by Susie Maidment⤵️

X · Jan 7, 2026, 4:24 PM

[pulsar galleon]

Having a huge head with strong jaws (and massive jaw muscles) requires a large, powerful neck

[warped peak]

Wait wat

[runic heart]

Uhm..

[queen oar]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zlAx7j9GteSTAa4FyYfcTNN8k5gdpKYU/view?usp=drivesdk

*Ceratopsids

From what I understood, they are not Ceratopsians, at least not as like placed in a basal position in the group.

[warped peak]

What the hell

[full lagoon]

If this is true, that's a massive shift in our understanding of dinosaurs

[runic heart]

Oh and what’s with the new reconstruction shown here?

[queen oar]

idk really. There's good cranial material, but not a whole lot of postcranial.

[undone rapids]

My Favorite Ceratopsian

[warped peak]

Finally, hornless true ceratopsians

[undone rapids]

Ajakaceratops, new specimen had a better skull material

[lavish frigate]

This is the most disgustingly whimsical thing I’ve ever seen

[full lagoon]

Just to be sure, is this showing the traditional classification?

[wicked shell]

Romania dino

Yaaaaaaay

[wicked shell]

Woah

[undone rapids]

Don't think so, its the new one

[full lagoon]

So, by that logic, thelescosaurus is also a ceratopsian?

[undone rapids]

Don't think so, its always closer to ornithopods. Zalmoxes' position is just less certain it seems

[compact leaf]

to be clear it isn’t all rhabodontids people are blowing it out of proportion, the paper itself says some rhabodontids

it’s still a big shakeup but it isn’t every single rhabodontid

[tough parcel]

What is paleontology if not blowing up proportions

[ancient crystal]

Paleontology is 50% children powerscaling on TikTok, 48% various people fudging the data to make their favorite the biggest, and 2% actual science

[true juniper]

Hypothetically how big would the skull of an argentinosaurus be

[stiff osprey]

4-5 feet

[spice latch]

Tall, long, or wide

[stiff osprey]

long

[true juniper]

Would the skull be light for it's size

[stiff osprey]

very, that's why we never find sauropod skulls

they're both light and weakly articulated

[true juniper]

Is it true that camarasaurus has a heavily built skull? I've heard that it had a high bite force (more than the Morrison theropods)

[dire zealot]

https://fxtwitter.com/stevebrusatte/status/2008937855754924133?s=46&t=9Fi-DYYXsUFRZrPHX1qLKA

Steve Brusatte (@SteveBrusatte)

A shake-up of the dinosaur family tree! Rhabdodontids are not ornithopods. They are ceratopsians.
︀︀
︀︀There were horned dinosaurs in Europe! As shown by a new fossil of Ajkaceratops from Hungary!
︀︀
︀︀Check out our new study, led by Susie Maidment⤵️

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FxTwitter · Jan 7, 2026, 4:24 PM

[stiff osprey]

More than Allosaurus is a stretch, but yes camara's skull is heavier than most sauropods's

[fossil ingot]

Wow

[warped peak]

it's beautiful

[tough parcel]

The left lateral...soft tissue reconstruction...?

[balmy oyster]

?1!?1!1?1?1!

[outer tusk]

2026 we're seeing a reversal of referred specimens being known from more/"better" material than their holotype which is kind of a cool trend to me

[topaz shell]

Zalmoxes being a ceratopsian is not something I expected for 2026

[zealous ravine]

New material plus all the M. vorosi stuff is now Ajka

[outer tusk]

Can't wait to see a newer skeletal for it

[twin mica]

I had a question, and it's probably super out there, but I still wanted to hear educated guesses:

If an alien race came to Earth during the Cretaceous Period, do you think they would choose to not colonize here because the fauna would be so hostile?

I sincerely believe the Mesozoic had no room for civility at all, and trying to live here - no matter how intelligent or benevolent - would simply choose to look elsewhere.

I think trying to make a house with a T-Rex in the area is just impossible.

[lavish frigate]

They were animals, big animals, but animals. A civilization advanced enough for space travel would have no issue with establishing settlements

[stiff osprey]

Well, if they are technologically advanced enough to colonize other planets (which is FAR ahead of where humanity is now), they would easily have technology capable of killing large dinosaurs. Maybe they wouldn't kill all of them, but they would likely wipe out the apex predators from small areas where they wanted to build

Or even just like invent a long range dinosaur repellent if they were worried about not causing too much damage to the environment

[tough parcel]

Tbh I think an important problem to note is that we, as a current society, could probably wipe out the largest dinosaurs

[stiff osprey]

Oh with our current level of technology we'd do it within like 20 years if there weren't laws to protect them

(that's not a "humans are epic badass" quote i think it's incredibly awful that that could happen but it COULD)

[odd pilot]

https://youtu.be/ZV6HRNs65SI?si=72upKwhe6dw9P6ub
Get ready! A French documentary on the therapsids of South Africa will arrive this Thursday, January 15. With French YouTuber and paleontologist Julien Benoît. And CGI reconstructions, well, very nice with accurate animals.

[winter marsh]

it looks so cursed

[lavish frigate]

They shaved protoceratops

[jagged trellis]

<@&538079608914968587> erhm

thank you goanna and koala
anyways back to paleo stuff

[charred hearth]

would mammoths have decapitated and dismembered cavemen the same way modern elephants do?

[rancid acorn]

that’s because you did it wrong

[jagged trellis]

kinda hard to say seeing it is well
the mind vs the body on it, as in doing such a specific way without any real adaptations to it
so a big fat maybe

[charred hearth]

there probably would be cave paintings of a mammoth dismembering someone, thats someopne i see thbem drawing if it did happen

[wicked shell]

Not even february and we got paleo breaking news
W

[stiff osprey]

the articular should stick out behind the quadratojugal a bit

ie

[queen oar]

Why did you leave most of the left side unchanged? like the crushed side on the specimen?

I see.

[outer tusk]

the thing is PHP is Zalmoxes which is a bipdeal while Rhabdodon is a quad so actually nothing has changed besides onle Zalmoxes being part ceratopsian

[wooden bluff]

I wanted to try this time with abeli, again I used the edit by table as base

[wind prairie]

LMAOO

[wind prairie]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-31361-y cool that they walked more dynamically than previously thought

[wispy stone]

I wish t rex tlc would have a revisit, working on the skull to be more like modern studies

Noticeable horn crests would be a nice addition

[hazy basalt]

Bro your sanguis sub?

Besides didn’t Rex have bosses instead of crests?

[wind prairie]

arbitrary

[fossil ingot]

Rex has crazy skull variation so its overall fine

[tough parcel]

Correct, the horns/exaggerated crests are paleomemes

[runic heart]

So this dude is accurate in that regard as well?

[wind prairie]

I feel like every time I think I have a new understanding of something it gets called a paleomeme
what do you mean exactly by "horns/exaggerated crests"

like where is the line drawn between plausible and paleomeme

[runic heart]

See image above I guess

I like this trend of referring to ignoring of direct evidence and plausibility as paleomemes. Good way to make sure people are more scientifically informed 👍.

[outer tusk]

like paleo ark t.rex or some of Zubin's rexes

[tough parcel]

Yea but it looks like they're too much in number but it could also be how they textured it

[stiff osprey]

Plausibility is extending the boss and possibly sharpening the keratin a little, as studies of dinosaur osteoderms show that small osteoderms like the ones on rex's face were not likely to have massive amounts of keratin on top

And paleomeme is turning t.rex into carnotaurus

[outer tusk]

Tyrannosaurus sarcophagus does go hard

[stiff osprey]

like yeah i'd forgive you for calling this a horn but also out of dozens of rex skulls this is the only one to have something like this and every other rex is a lot more rounded

[wispy stone]

So, POT design is fairly accurate to the modern studies?

[stiff osprey]

I would not say that in regards to the skull, looks like someone bashed its lacrimal in with a rock.

Primordial Tyrants rex is a lot better even if they exaggerate the horns a little

er, PT rex for context i guess

[fossil ingot]

Isn't that the Large Horns Sub?

PT Rex uses your Pre Cartilage Sue as a Base

Nvm yeah seems like base Sub

[opaque kayak]

Patagotitan mayorum by Randomdinos

[open compass]

It got crests but it's strange

[halcyon cobalt]

having any kind of life makes earth infinitely more habitable than any other celestial body that we know of

aliens would rather live somewhere with noisy but ultimately harmless neighbours, than a cold dead rock or a scorching hellscape

well if those aliens have the similar-ish biology to us ofc

[zealous ravine]

Oh hey I have that exact model lmao, it sadly broke recently

[wispy stone]

Ive been trying to make out which part seems to be crest. So its that one big round area near the eyes

[queen oar]

I think they are referring to the Epilacrimal and Epipostorbital?

[snow python]

Do we have any skeletal or up to date size estimate for stomatosuchus?

[balmy oyster]

It’s only a skull, so what the body was like we can only determine from relatives

This is the most recent reconstruction that i know of

[wispy stone]

Oh, I see. Its kinda hard to notice

[fossil ingot]

This may be to fat tbf
Random didn't made a Siluette of his by itself I think

[frigid delta]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN RHABDODONTIDS COULD BE CERATOPSIANS???
i miss alot, what exactly happened???

[opaque kayak]

this is the most cursed dorsal ever

why is it so thick and thin at the same time

[fossil ingot]

Tmk its to fat

[pallid compass]

Does anyone have a good Bungartius reconstruction?

[halcyon cobalt]

I look like this btw and get bullied constantly

[livid laurel]

i'm a bit skeptical about the full ring, usually the keratin needs to have a bone base to grow these cornified structures

[wispy stone]

I think I started to see POT rex’s crest, just that placement seems weird

[native kindle]

nothing. a small-ish portion of material assigned to rhabdodonts are ceratopsians, the entire group didn't turn into ceratopsians

[halcyon cobalt]

this is like when some compsognathids were revealed to be baby’s of larger theropods

[queen oar]

It perhaps would be more possible if it translated into the scales or keratinized skin of the face. Like the lower part. Because yeah, a ring like that wouldn't work at all.

Tbh Tyrannosaurs should have only one Crest on both sides. Like from the Lacrimal to the Postorbital region of the face. Don't exactly understand why people feel like to make these two pretty distinguished structures ( or two distinguished surfaces of a whole structure, in some artistic pieces )

Like, I'm pretty confident on the description of Daspletosaurus horneri, Thomas Carr kinda comments how there's even rugose texture on the prefrontal of the animal, which if anything should just indicate that the keratinuous sheath starts from the Lacrimal and ends on the Postorbital. ( Because both of these two and the prefrontal, are showing the same continuous rugose texture, that is indicative of keratin being all over the surface of those bones, in life )

[ancient crystal]

"Ah the Paleo Ark model isn't too crazy, just typical Ark design exaggeration, surely the others can't be that b–OH MY GOODNESS"

[outer tusk]

SQUIDWARD

[open compass]

Interesting. What about this? Or it's unlikely

[winter marsh]

Watch this thing be a mosasaur

[outer tusk]

How ☠️

[winter marsh]

Everything is possible

[outer tusk]

There skull is much not even close to any known mosasaurs so that already rules it out

[balmy oyster]

Only a few, most are separate

[fluid inlet]

https://x.com/pliosaurus_x/status/2008722116926206434?s=46

Predator X (@pliosaurus_x)

@JoshuaGoji @ausar_the Stegosaurid tails had such a wide range of motion that they could almost point their tails directly parallel to their bodies like a dinosaur version of a scorpion, compared to Ankylosaurus's relatively stiff tail.

(This picture is from Kentrosaurus)

X · Jan 7, 2026, 2:07 AM

[stable sun]

It's not only a skull though. Slighty more stuff was known.

[fluid inlet]

K buddie.

[snow python]

Is this for real?

[balmy oyster]

What were they? And were they even figured/described to begin with? I’ve only ever seen the skull.

[balmy oyster]

No, dizzy rose doesn’t do accurate size estimates

[stable sun]

single cervical lol

[balmy oyster]

Honestly any sort of non cranial material is awesome because sometimes it means something gets halved in size from a single pebble worth of bone

[runic heart]

Life on our planet is getting a spinoff within the first quarter of this year. Hope they raked up a budget to not use Jurassic world models, but the exact same people are making it, so….

Seems like it’s being built up as a 4 part Wwd type thing.

Though there’s obviously no “walking with” in the title, the show is literally just called “Dinosaurs” 💀

[compact leaf]

the fact that it hasn’t been teased or advertised at all is a bad sign

[runic heart]

Very unfortunate, though surviving earth has a similar issue for something also releasing this year.

[compact leaf]

I’ve seen a few surviving earth teasers that look really good at least

[runic heart]

Well yeah what they have shown is really good. The fact that they changed the dimetrodon from its concept art to give it scales based on a paper released only last year is a really good sign.

[queen oar]

Would you eat a vertebra? just the bone

[spice latch]

I know I would

[balmy oyster]

You can eat the interior bone marrow if you cook it right

[queen oar]

Yeah, but I'm saying just the bone. No bone marrow, no soft tissues, no conjunctive tissues, just the bone only.

[balmy oyster]

Aren’t we physiologically incapable of doing that unless you’re fine with a mouth full of broken teeth

[queen oar]

skill issue.

[balmy oyster]

😔

[night flare]

Curious question, like parrots and ravens, would have it been possible there were some dinosaurs that are able to mimic sounds? 🤔🤔🤔

[compact leaf]

it’s possible but they would’ve arrived at it in a different way in terms of brain anatomy

[runic heart]

Wouldn’t ankylosaurs have had a pretty wide vocal range?

[charred hearth]

would theropods do to the one leg thing modern day birds do?

[winter marsh]

the stuff flamingoes do? Maybe, cuz iirc they do that to conserve energy/sleep upright since they live in shallow waters and would be kinda inconvenient wetting their feathers to get some rest

[charred hearth]

dont a bunch of other birds do it too? flamigo just do it the most?

[winter marsh]

mostly the wading birds do this iirc, might be wrong tho

[compact leaf]

from what we know about pinacosaurus vocal anatomy probably

[patent mist]

My chickens and turkeys did/do that a lot, so it's not just waders. I assume non avians would do it fairly often to rest their feet

[charred hearth]

im imagining a rex doing it and its really funny.

[patent mist]

The front view especially would be hilarious

[charred hearth]

stupid question but would rex be able to balance on one leg for a prolonged time like birds do?

[patent mist]

Probably not as long Given it's about 11 tones, but there isn't really an actual answer for this

[charred hearth]

i wonder if it would actually be a common behavior in therapods, its a very fun to think about.

[warped peak]

Never trust Dizzy Rose

[scenic flame]

https://fixupx.com/XtinctDesign/status/2008978607956480327

XtinctDesign (@XtinctDesign)

Zarafasaura oceanis
︀︀
︀︀#zarafasaura #paleoart #blender3D

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FixupX · Jan 7, 2026, 7:06 PM

[ancient crystal]

Can Carcharias taurus buccal pump? I know they can be pretty inactive but I'm not sure if they are to the point of being able to gulp water.

I've been given a project on ram ventilating sharks and one of the families I'm meant to work with is Odontaspididae. The other person I'm working on this project with already got around to listing the species in this family, and even though I know Carchariidae was split from Odontaspididae a while ago, I have reason to overlook that here, assuming that C. taurus is even relevant to the project in the first place.

I know this isn't exactly paleontology, but my excuse is that the sand tiger sharks have been around since the cretaceous

[ionic crescent]

Shouldn't this go to #art-channel ? (Idk, i once saw moderators asking someone who made paleoart to go there LOL)

[last adder]

That's awesome! I have a fossil tooth belonging to this genus!

[runic heart]

What if I ask how accurate is. Then it can go here.

[granite thicket]

kinda funny how this genus literally has the retro plesiosaur shaped head

[misty scarab]

Therizinosaurus’ claws

[charred hearth]

what sent the quagga into extinction exactly?

[delicate yoke]

i figured this is the place to ask, but is there anything in game that can be used as a point of reference for scale?

tryna make a definitive scale chart but the only reference is against each other

[compact leaf]

allo is almost exactly 3 meters tall at the hip so whenever I'm doing that I use it as a frame of reference

[granite thicket]

hunting

[charred hearth]

why were they hunted over, lets say, zebra's?

[tough parcel]

They looked funny

[ashen wedge]

Humans be humaning

[charred hearth]

damn, i guess those stripes DID help

how accurate is this pyroraptor?

[scenic flame]

very not

[balmy oyster]

no

[charred hearth]

is the og jw pyroraptor more accurate?

[ancient crystal]

No

[ashen wedge]

I would say, it’s close but not really, kinda like how JP has good dromeosaurs, just not good Velicoraptors

[restive crag]

The pyroraptor is pretty bad it’s got a toothrow extending beyond the eye

[vocal rover]

Toothrow? You mean lips

[full lagoon]

Regardless of any of the notable issues with this, pryoraptor is very fragmentary.

[hardy sentinel]

You tell me bro

[clever crest]

I've always been curious is PT rex or the OG rex more accuarate in game. This looks very convincing.

[floral ivy]

Does anyone here knows the status of this titanosaur specimen.

[wind prairie]

assuming the dinosaur revolution design had lips, which velociraptor do you prefer?

[fossil ingot]

Overall
Base PT Rex sub should be better, its just Randomdinos "Old" Sue lol

[zealous ravine]

No they mean toothrow lmao

[zealous ravine]

Prehistoric planet by far, DR is definitely a product of its time and has many issues beyond lips

[vocal rover]

What I was trying to say is aren't they the same thing? Why not just say lips to not confuse people

[zealous ravine]

They very much aren't. Lips are tissue over the mouth, the toothrow is how far back into the mouth the teeth entend. Entirely different and unrelated things lmao

[balmy oyster]

Only related in the sense it has to do regarding mouth

[vocal rover]

Oooohhhh you mean gums! Well why didn't ya say that! 😂 😊

[halcyon cobalt]

seething

[frigid delta]

is Jaekelopterus lived in freshwater or saltwater?

[hardy sentinel]

Freshwater

[snow python]

This is an overestimation, right?

[hybrid temple]

One of my favorites. Kaprosuchus!

Can I pet that 🐕

[ionic crescent]

If i had a nickel everytime people use Todd Marshal deity Kapro as Kapro ref I could buy a house and pay it full by now

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/petting-aligator-crocodile-gif-25954785

[fossil ingot]

11m Holotype yrt already the weight lf a 12m one

And pretty sure the Holotype is the bigger of the 2

[stable sun]

Wtf is 365 lmao

[plush fossil]

Looks like a pug mixed with an alligator I love it so much

[ionic crescent]

DR, by far

All of em felt unique and not RTX tech demo animals

[wind prairie]

I mean.. like what?
it doesn't seem all that shrinkwrapped, it has proper wing structure and a tail fan

[balmy oyster]

Yes because it’s already hard enough to get it past 6 tons, but reaching 7? What we doin bru

[fossil ingot]

Watch it be a Random toe bone...

[tough parcel]

I don't actually know, there's no record of MNBH GAD 365

[scenic flame]

@deft sigil got a scammer

[fossil ingot]

Same
It just reminds me of Cristatu

[outer tusk]

Am legit surprised nobody has done a more recent Cirstatusaurus skeletal outside of uh forgot his name

[outer tusk]

Deform does alot of that

[true juniper]

How heavily built was carnotaurus

[spice latch]

If I had to guess it would have been fairly streamlined, but the muscle mass in the legs and tail would be great

[undone rapids]

Pretty normal for a theropod of its size, with a really beefy tail

[spice latch]

Question of my own as well, would daeodon have those funky protruding cheek bones?

[true juniper]

What is an example of a heavily built abelisaur then

[undone rapids]

Maybe Ekrixinatosaurus, but its not described enough to say for sure. Pycno too was more robust

[spice latch]

I mean pycnonemosaurus was the largest (controversial), so that’s a good bet

[undone rapids]

Not really controversial, it has the largest preserved Tibia and tail bones among all described abelisaurs

[spice latch]

My pretty baby

[delicate yoke]

OK I finished (ill send the image after the cooldown lol)

[runic heart]

Titanovenator has an almost complete skull plus some other material, how is it not described yet.

[spice latch]

Well I’ve seen a lot of talk about potential abelisaurs that would be larger

That’s why I said controversial

[delicate yoke]

As it is, the size of every playable

[true juniper]

Would abelisaurus look similar to this?

[undone rapids]

It does not have an almost complete skull, its taking time since everthing in paleo takes time. Esp when working on material from less developed countries

[undone rapids]

Similar yeah and smaller, though we dunno how robust Abelisaurus would be since its just a skull

[outer tusk]

We should make a new term for this

Call it "paleontology days" like business days but much longer

[undone rapids]

Some people have also said that the whole formation might be getting described which may explain why its a big paper, there's like 12 animals or so. Some cool crocs, very large sauropods, etc

[outer tusk]

I really love that sauropod reference

[rancid dove]

why is Metri small 💔

[delicate yoke]

Metri barely a 3 slot ong

[true juniper]

What do we know about the paleobiology of concavenator

[brave nova]

There’s a couple sizing issues I’m seeing just checking in game atm like Amarg being taller than Rex same with eo being abit too big compared to Rex aswell. Sucho is about the same size as allo here when in game Sucho kinda trumps it same with dasp next to Sucho. There’s probs quite a few more but there’s too many for me to really be checking myself these were just sum I noticed to be kinda glaring

[velvet burrow]

What are the biomechanical implications of such an overkill cnemial crest?

[true juniper]

Ikr, that thing has an axe head for a cnemial crest

[velvet burrow]

Would abelisaurids have had a similar keratin structure to this?

[undone rapids]

There haven't been many biomechanical studies on abelisaurs sadly, but we'd expect that to support alot more muscles and help in general leg movements with more force.

[undone rapids]

Yeah, Abelisaurs do that. The left most one is Pycno(A) here with Ekrixinatosaurus(B) next to it

[true juniper]

Did abelisaurs have strong bites? They look like they kinda have similar teeth to allosauroids

[velvet burrow]

Long Reach moment

[true juniper]

Wowwwwww

[undone rapids]

They're similar to allosauroids of similar size iirc, We just have Carnotaurus and Majungasaurus estimates atm

[tough parcel]

Longrich is on this paper

[warped peak]

Abelisaurs didn't have particularly strong bites, but they had extremely robust skulls and necks for grappling with grabbed preh

[vocal rover]

Paleontologist just came up with that name on the spot lol

[full lagoon]

I mean it's so fragmentary it might as well be alien

[true juniper]

What an awesome Name, troodonts are cool. I see (on the Wikipedia page) that it has a thick and rugose skull roof, W troodont

[tough parcel]

I suspect this is what we call a pachycephalosaur...

[true juniper]

Troodontids are canonically bald now

[wind prairie]

what a cool name, wasted on a stupid taxon

[true juniper]

Yeah I just realized 🫣

[velvet burrow]

There was not long ago a paper on abelisaurid jaw biomechanic and hunting strategies. I'm not sure if it actually gave numbers to their bite force but it did say that most abelisaurids (minus Spectrovenator) had necks and jaws adapted to resist high amounts of lateral torsion. It seems like abelisaurids were adapted to hold onto their prey and exhaust them through struggling, unlike the "slash and tear" sort of motion proposed for other theropods like allosauroids

At least that's what i can recall

[undone rapids]

Yup, one difference iirc is that Abelisaurs have shorter teeth, so they could afford to grapple/wrestle prey for longer without their teeth breaking off so they'd need less bites than an allosauroid.

[vocal rover]

Cool rock!

[velvet burrow]

Would that make them more suited for smaller prey sizes? If so then ig that's the reason why, at least in South America, abelisaurids predominantly filled medium sized predator roles
And f*cking thrived in them

[true juniper]

I don't know maaann...looks like a chocolate truffle covered in cocoa powder to me..

[undone rapids]

Also a recent paper mentioned the spectro might've had similar strategies to later abelisaurids due to its maxilla being similar iirc, though we won't know until a more detailed description of spectro is published

[velvet burrow]

ooo

[undone rapids]

Dunno, I feel that being good at wrestling/grappling prey would be nice for similar sized prey. Since prey much smaller than the abelisaur would probably not be able to resist as much in general

[ashen wedge]

So…. What did I miss? Is this new Troodon?

[vocal rover]

That's what I love about rocks! So colorful and different from each other!

[undone rapids]

Here's the paper : https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-87289-w

[runic heart]

What is is exactly?

Oh sick, how much material do we have?

[velvet burrow]

That's the fun part
Not a lot

[runic heart]

Troodontids, am I right

[charred hearth]

is it me or is mira much larger then stego?

[runic heart]

Is this actually good comparison between carch head shapes or nah?

[outer tusk]

yeah it's good

[vocal rover]

Where's conc 🥺

[true juniper]

What if spinosaurus had extra soft tissue extending above the sail that drooped down to one side like an orcas fin

[balmy oyster]

not how it works

[ancient crystal]

Orca fins aren't really supposed to droop in the first place

[outer tusk]

it's because they're depress in capacity

[ancient crystal]

I've been recently made aware that that's not entirely the reason, though captivity does tend to cause orca dorsal fins to collapse more often.

Afaik it can rarely happen in the wild, but not under typical circumstances

[true juniper]

Oh I actually didn't know that

[white matrix]

could someone fact check this in regards to sarcosuchus taxonamy?

"They aren't with actual crocodiles but are true crocodilians"

[brittle comet]

Likely Spinosaurus in Brazil- Maranhão

An individual who was, until then, young

[outer tusk]

based on what that's isn't leaked?

[brittle comet]

A fossil discovery in the state of Maranhão with international participation in September 2025, including Paul Sereno.

[outer tusk]

Sereno...

[brittle comet]

They don't know for sure if it's a Spinosaurus, Oxalaia, confirmation of whether Oxalaia is a Spinosaurus. Or just another extremely close relative. But there's a good chance it's a Spinosaurus.

From what I've seen, 3D reconstruction of the material would be better studied in the United States, but the original material will remain in Brazil.

[undone rapids]

there's another brazillian spino being described that got burned in the museum fire

[brittle comet]

It's probably a juvenile.

[brittle comet]

They even apparently recovered the worn remains of Oxalaia, according to a paleontologist from Rio de Janeiro.

[undone rapids]

Yeah, this one hasn't been recovered it seems which is unfortunate

[brittle comet]

There's a quote about Oxalaia in the Spinosaurus Wiki section. In 2025

[fossil ingot]

Why is Sucho looking down?
It visually makes it smaller than Allo

[outer tusk]

he's ashame to be apart of the team

[brittle comet]

He's probably not talking about last year's discovery, but rather about Oxalaia and the fire, since it was in Maranhão and not Rio de Janeiro.

[fossil ingot]

Nvm it that size chart has quite the mistakes/errors

[brittle comet]

Well, I can't say much, but we still have names like Paul Sereno participating.

[fossil ingot]

Closest is Sakamoto's Paper Making Majunga Bite Harder than Carno
Both were less than 8kN

[fossil ingot]

Why is Giga dwarfing everyone
And Idk Carcha looks to Giga like
Prob the Angle

[fossil ingot]

I was talking about the person who posted a POT Dino's Size Chart

[fossil ingot]

Ehh prob not
Spinosaurids aren't like
The Big Guys
Main Outliers are Sucho, Spino and "Sigil"
But the size of that Specimen is about average for this familu

[brittle comet]

Oh, sorry.

[hardy sentinel]

Sarcosuchus isn't a Gharial

Convergent evolution

[hardy sentinel]

Oxalaia confirmed dead in 2026

[brittle comet]

he looks more like an Orinoco crocodile.

Quite different from a Gharial

[light osprey]

Have we considered that the Sarcosuchus is a third secret special thing…. A Sarcosuchus

[hardy sentinel]

I mean I guess both have a nose bulb but Sarco is more similar to a Gharial in the fact it goes from extremely thin to a bulb

Plus the reason I said Gharials is because you asked about Sarcosuchus taxonomy and proceeded to show Gharial taxonomy

[brittle comet]

In younger individuals it might look more like Tomistoma.

[stiff osprey]

The Sarcosuchus had an unique ecology unseen in any modern crocodylian: it lived in the water and ate fish

[brittle comet]

But in Sarcosuchus it's not something that only males have, like in gharials, plus the snout is extremely thin in gharials.

[charred hearth]

how dead was nigel and the crew at the end of chased by dinosaurs? would they have been able to escape the sarco ambush or are they getting eaten?

[stiff osprey]

Realistically i don't think sarcosuchus is running on land for any distance

[brittle comet]

If he had been hit, he probably would have hardly survived.

[charred hearth]

i dont know, that sarco was slow as hell in catching nigel multiple times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmhYnsFWGr4

[tough parcel]

Checkmate li🅱️eral

[primal ice]

If you want see what sarcosuchus skull resembles just look

[stiff osprey]

The humble POT sarco chasing down my Deinocheirus on land

[charred hearth]

if your a croc in a dinosaur game, you WILL be usaian bolt for a short while

[brittle comet]

Besides, it's a game; if you expect too much realism, the gameplay would become quite complicated and boring.
So I don't judge The Isle or POT for making them run faster.

[charred hearth]

also, chased by sea monsters had one of the most iconic endings of any dino doc

was there ever a reason why 15 mosasaurus all decided to jump the crew's boat?

[tough parcel]

Sending a message

[stiff osprey]

They knew it would look hella cool when they all showed up on radar

[charred hearth]

i wonder, do orca's take out boats through brute strength are just targetting a spefic point and focusing that?

[tough parcel]

Targets a specific point

IIRC they specifically disable the motor

[charred hearth]

i guess one of the mosa's would've bit the motor eventually

[outer tusk]

Honestly this has to be the scariest ending I've seen in some dinosaur media

[tough parcel]

Fortunately, it's canon that Nigel has 1v1ed a Giga and won so

[stiff osprey]

He regenerates like doctor who

[tough parcel]

Much like Kratos, Nigel doesn't care

[ashen wedge]

It caught him and the camera crew at the end of the episode

[compact leaf]

yeah they do that then (assuming they capsize it) either roll the boat or ram it until there’s a hole (which is rarer)

[charred hearth]

truly a beautifully dark scene , feelings like something out of a jurassic park novel

[ashen wedge]

Agreed

[queen oar]

Could you send me a Jerboadiver? Please?

thank you.

[ashen wedge]

Isn’t that the Psittacosaurus?

[stiff osprey]

Pistachiosaurus

[ashen wedge]

Found the correct spelling

[hardy sentinel]

Taco was a biped

[ashen wedge]

Oh…. Right I forgot that it was biped and not quad

[hardy sentinel]

I think I read sum about them being quads when they were young though

[stiff osprey]

yeah the babies are quad

[balmy oyster]

I can’t believe we found the ceratops

[granite thicket]

Face

[wind prairie]

ops*

[queen oar]

@tough parcel Would you eat a bone?

[plush fossil]

Oh my god why is thal so big

[fossil ingot]

POT Thala is oversized
There are quite the wrong sizes here but yeah POT Thala is oversized

[delicate yoke]

thal genuinely like 12 feet tall

also dont look at that chart too much, my scales were a bit flawed so im remaking a better one

[fossil ingot]

Cause yeah...

[delicate yoke]

the scale i was using started to get.... messy with so many things on the screen at once

[fossil ingot]

POT Allo and Dasp with the Modded Wiehen Mod by Toxic Midget

[delicate yoke]

OK ive made a new one, how does this look 🙏

[plain spade]

I feel like bars is taller in game

But idk

[delicate yoke]

Most of the time you see bars standing in a fight

[plain spade]

Yeah but I swear its head wasn’t at ducks shoulder

Again idk I’m not smart or anything just from what I think I know in game lol

[delicate yoke]

Duck is mad tall too tho

[plain spade]

Yeah still think bars is taller.

Stego i think is bigger then that as well

[delicate yoke]

I can go check

A standing bars is like, spoon sized, but as a quad its not as tall

And stego just... isnt that big ngl

[plain spade]

Yeah idk haven’t played in a while and I main dasp so my concept of apex height is probably greatly skewed

[delicate yoke]

little thing i quickly took, has duck / bars and then some stego stuff

[plain spade]

Yeah got it looks about right

[delicate yoke]

Stego being this smol hurts

[plain spade]

Yeah cause Steg was pretty big depending on species right? But here it’s like the same height as Alio 😭

[hardy sentinel]

Is Amarga really that big?

[charred hearth]

yes!

[hardy sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-ssj-ssj-goku-son-goku-angry-goku-gif-17396891451436566450

[balmy oyster]

Finally someone calling out the cm koseman “how paleontologists do it” stuff

[plush fossil]

I hate it when people post stuff like that, because that's just...not how it works

[topaz sparrow]

how much did mosa and tylo weight?

[runic rover]

i mean i look at modern animals a lot and i do feel like ever since those memes people tend to give dinosaur mammalian-levels of girth, like many reptiles (which dinosaurs are) have some decent shrink-wrap amounts on their body (namely the skull), and if we only take the well-fed captivity ones of course they all look well-fed. DO correct me if i'm wrong.

[cyan fable]

this is real?

[outer tusk]

We discussed this before, no

[runic heart]

I like this, but the tan hippo’s head should be slightly off proportionally. Cause.. yuh know.

[merry plank]

arent most reptiles heads shaped very similar to their skulls?

[plush fossil]

Yes iirc but it would depend I think?

Actually maybe not I might be dumb but most are similar to their skulls yeah

[winter marsh]

I wonder if we didnt have hippos nowadays at all it would be something like this (doubt it tho)

[runic rover]

Also it doesn't help that showing the swans picture in the book is like such a low blow knowing that YES THE SWANS WOULD LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THAT if they didn't have feathers.

[winter marsh]

Basically featherless chicken

The baboon one also looks fairly accurate iirc, its just naked

And its lipless too iirc

[runic rover]

Featherless birds do look a lot like earlier dino reconstructions, so, considering not every dinosaur was feathered, I'm inclined to think that "shrink wrapped" early dinosaur definitively are a very very valid point considering what did they know back then, it's just disrespectful for the sake of being "I am better because I don't draw Jurassic park ahah!"

[winter marsh]

Jurassic park dinos are basically rauisuchuians tbh. Lipless, scaly freaks of nature (we dont really have evidence for lips on them)

That one Saurosuchus skull kinda reminds me of vintage stuff cuz of those big teeth

[outer tusk]

def a postosuchus

[winter marsh]

Just shorten the legs a bit and make the skull boxy. Pratically a postosuchus

[outer tusk]

mhmmm ig

[winter marsh]

And change the posture too

[halcyon cobalt]

jurassic park designer mentality. just give the T rex a horn, now it’s ceratosaurus

[runic rover]

Still not fully sold on lipses myself, not contrary, just waiting for a mummy because there are a lot of good points against them imho

[winter marsh]

Iirc the canon for this is that they literally fused some Rex DNA with Cerato and that was made

(Also the reason its bulky)

[runic rover]

Before anyone smites me, All I say is not 100% confidently as if I knew better, I am ready for being corrected if wrong, I'm just saying that I'm not sold on them.

[outer tusk]

totally not because ceratosaurus in JP3 is literally just an edited rex model

[outer tusk]

Nobody will smit you (unless they're on that side) because alot of people can reconstruct them with lips

[native kindle]

"not dino related" then you already knew this wasn't the channel for this lol

[outer tusk]

So why post it here, like I NEVER get people that say this

[keen citrus]

Mb

Any facts on nanotyrannus?

[outer tusk]

Jane is about the ~800+kg yet was still growing

[runic rover]

1. is real

2. is beautiful

3. is not a baby rex

[keen citrus]

No like, any fun facts about nanotyrannus

[outer tusk]

they just said 3

[primal ice]

He said 3 lol

[ashen wedge]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ctsGNbMkVSM

[undone badger]

Not sure if this is aloud but does anyone got a Carno tattoo? Been thinking bout getting one for a while just wanna see others

[ancient crystal]

Don't you mean Glimorelarsotyrannus

[true juniper]

Eeerm actually your wrong it's gilmorelarsonedwarddrinkercopemarshmaryanningbakkerjackhornerpaulserenotyrannus bucklandii
🙄

[spice latch]

Alr folks

[ancient crystal]

[spice latch]

What has the better bite force, sarcosuchus or tylosaurus?

-# I’m taking your suggestion

[ancient crystal]

Now, I don't know personally, but someone here does I'd imagine

[outer tusk]

none of these guys have an actual bite force esimates but if am gonna be honest both seem similarly-mesaured esimates

[plush fossil]

Oh this is beautiful

[lavish minnow]

Are you saying you think dinosaurs didn’t have lips?

[runic rover]

I'm saying I am not entirely sold on the lipped thing, while the tooth erosion is a pretty good proof there's a lot of things that contradict the concept of "why land creatures need lipses", such as the croc/shark ability to replace teeth, the archosaurian descendency and the fact that modern toothed dinosaurs (a goose for example) have a skull that much more evidently hide the teeths...

Again. I'm ready for being corrected, I'm just not entirely sold on the idea

[tawdry lintel]

Are these sizes accurate ?

[tough parcel]

Your proofs make no sense

They are ancestrally lipped (archosaurs/animals in general), the croc/shark ability to replace teeth has no bearing on this because they're aquatic animals and lips do not inhibit tooth shedding and a goose does not have teeth, it has a beak which is incredibly derived from the ancestral condition so the belief it has any bearing on the situation is weird

[outer tusk]

give this man a true

[tough parcel]

Liplessness as an idea seemingly only arose after Jurassic Park (curious ) and even disregarding that, you'd need to prove a reason for them to lose lips, not gain them

[outer tusk]

btw this is not a real sauropod but if I didn't tell you this, what sauropod based on any current info we have would you guess this is?

[spice latch]

The titanosaurs in Jurassic world

[tough parcel]

Camarasaurus if we pretended it was a diplodocid

[outer tusk]

NO YOU GAVE IT AWAY

[tawdry lintel]

Are there better models of Tanystropheus ?

[spice latch]

IS THAT ACTUALLY IT

[outer tusk]

I actually did use these two because I felt like having Seismosaurus on Cathetosaurus would look so stupid

[tough parcel]

The ever humble Mark Witton and whoever this guy is

[outer tusk]

yes btw here's the "Rebirth" part

[warped peak]

Replacing teeth is a near universal trait in vertebrates. Mammals are weird for not having endless teeth

Geese don't have true teeth so they're not really a comparison

[fossil ingot]

Yeah
JP Rex isn't entireñy Lipless anyways
Is like Half Lipped or smth

[spice latch]

Also are we gonna talk about this or nah

[tawdry lintel]

The little one is supposed to be a juvenile, correct ?

[tough parcel]

Different species

Reconstructions of the skeletons of Tanystropheus hydroides (large species, newly named) and Tanystropheus longobardicus (small species). The outline of a 170 cm tall diver serves as the scale.

[tawdry lintel]

Ohh, didn't knew there were more, thanks

[fossil ingot]

Its a bit oversized here but yes
Thats just average CGI Moment to make things look big in scenes, Gareth Edward did the same in Godzilla 2014

[marble plaza]

whats everyones favourite dinos

[spice latch]

Still the fact they were anywhere NEAR Godzilla size

[tough parcel]

I mean again, it's not to be taken literally

It's visual storytelling like Primal's

[fossil ingot]

Its mainly just to fit the scene
The actual size is the one the size chart provided by the team.

[quaint isle]

dilophosaurus

[spice latch]

It’s just wild to think about

[marble plaza]

are we talking movie dilo with the stupid frill or the real one that didnt

[tough parcel]

Exactly visual storytelling (The story is they didn't want to rewrite the scene to be realistic)

[fossil ingot]

Spinosaurus or Torosaurus prob
If we don't include dinos than Purussaurus

[quaint isle]

the real one lol

[tawdry lintel]

Are Tyrannosaurus hatchlings eatimated to be as tall as a medium sized dog ?

[marble plaza]

whats the purussaurus

[tough parcel]

I like T. rex and Gorgosaurus they're the most aesthetic, I fear

[spice latch]

Ok so this isn’t REALLY paleontology related, but he’s a dinosaur so

How big could Godzilla realistically be

[outer tusk]

if anyone forget what some of the newer additions would look like if they were more accurately sized

[marble plaza]

basic picks but good ones especially goro

[marble plaza]

thats the only correct pick lol

[spice latch]

Ooo your gonna like this

BIG CAIMAN

[outer tusk]

Yangchuanosaurus, Deltadromeus, Cryolophosaurus, Masaiksaurus, Monolophosaurus, Suchomimus, Gorgosaurus, Carcharodontosaurus, Giganotosaurus, and Deinochierus

[marble plaza]

oh my god this thing is majestic

[quaint isle]

fr tho

[fossil ingot]

The Frill is cool

[outer tusk]

it's so oversized here

[spice latch]

Which one

[marble plaza]

but not accurate

[outer tusk]

both, Purussaurus at the largest current is about 10.4 meters

[fossil ingot]

Gorgo is Def Top 2 below Spino

@marble plaza obv, doesn't mean I don't find it cool

[umbral socket]

Maiasaura

[spice latch]

It’s not IMPOSSIBLE

[quaint isle]

I like it in the context of Jurassic Park, but that's probably just because I like speculative creatures and stuff like that

[marble plaza]

correct but unlikely and it defo never spat venom

[fossil ingot]

Big Caiman and Biggest Crocodylomorph

[spice latch]

Oh yea the venom is bs

[spice latch]

And yet pt is making the mod sarco sized…

[fossil ingot]

And here some things Puru lived with

[fossil ingot]

PT Puru is Oversized
Its 12.5m next to Irl Puru's 10.3-10.4m
PT Is Making Puru 12.5m due to POT Sarco been 11.5-12m lol
When irl Sarco is 9.1m

[quaint isle]

oh I didn't know it lived with a species of Eunectes (anaconda)!

[spice latch]

THEY MADE SARCO THAT BIG

[fossil ingot]

Yeah

[tawdry lintel]

Is this a good representation if a Rex hatchling ? It's the only one I could find conparing it to a human

[outer tusk]

I always love seeing how the largest animals in a specfic formation is the predator expect for say a herbivore

[quaint isle]

honestly hard to say for me, cuz as far as I know I thought all our knowledge about Tyrannosaurus ontogeny was reset after Nanotyrannus came back, but don't quote me on that

[fossil ingot]

I would say that Young Rexes are better based on Tarbo
Atleast Juvies and Hatclings

[lavish minnow]

They’ve done a study on tyrannosaurus. They came to conclusion that dinosaurs having lips is more likely. The main reasons being

1. Tooth damage compared to animals that don’t have lips
2. Tyrannosaurus had holes in its skulls along its jaw like those in lipped reptiles
   Also, trex and other dinos not having lips would serve no/less purpose than having lips like those seen in modern day reptiles and probably wouldn’t have evolved

[outer tusk]

MOR 6625, and LACM 28471 seems to be fine enough references for "baby" rexes

[fossil ingot]

Except don't turn Rex a bobblehead like Tarbo

[tawdry lintel]

Jesus Christ

[hardy sentinel]

How small do y'all think a newly hatched Rex was

[tawdry lintel]

I don't know lol, I didn't imagine a chicken but I thought that yeah something like the first I sent

[fossil ingot]

Big enough to bite

[tawdry lintel]

I think I read somewhere that the eggs were about 44cm

[true juniper]

Anyone else notice how brachylophosaurus has Unusually long legs

[compact leaf]

the frills of these lizards have an actual attachment point in the bone that can be detected, so a frill like that is

[tawdry lintel]

Does anyone have an accurate model of Paleosaniwa ?

[tough parcel]

No it is impossible because the frill is anchored on the hyoid

We do not have anything like that from Dilo

[spice latch]

[green helm]

does acherlon have a thick shell?

im wondering if deinosuchus could destroy its shell or if its too durable to destroy it

[outer tusk]

yep just to empharize Dilo skull and Frilled lizard skeleton

[ancient crystal]

I could be wrong but iirc, it had a soft shell like leatherbacks do

[green helm]

any source for that?

[ancient crystal]

My recollection lol, here let me look for real

[fossil ingot]

Given Deino's Evolution prob
Puru was capable of Cracking Stupen's Shell

[outer tusk]

uh yeah we still have that turtle shell from that one deinosuchus

[ancient crystal]

To be fair, this is an over 100 year old source, but it's from a revision written by the person who first described the genus

[green helm]

theres a archelon shell that was from one deinosuchus?

[outer tusk]

here's archelon

[green helm]

nice art

[outer tusk]

it's not mine btw it's Tosha Hollmann

[green helm]

ohh

[queen oar]

@outer tusk Would you eat a bone?

[outer tusk]

yeah

[queen oar]

You sound like someone

[fossil ingot]

Turtles atp aren't safe with this guys

[fossil ingot]

Comically big Flippers

[queen oar]

I mean, realistically, Ornithischians would, multiple times, independently, develop beaks, if we are to assume it's correct Sauropods also developed " Pseudo-beaks ", or whatever is going on with them, in extinct theropods beaks are developed multiple times, and in extant theropods it's pretty much one of their recognizable features. Like, maybe it's a little crazy to say...

Because I don't think this really implies liplessness or anything, but to there be multiple cases where Dinosaurs develop beaks, or a keratinous layer of tissue tightly attached to their jaws, in some form or another. Don't you think that at least would imply that most dinosaurs shared a common oral configuration where it was pretty easy for them to further develop it into beaks?

[fossil ingot]

Stupen is peak

[outer tusk]

Blastosie and Feraligatr

[full lagoon]

They were likely quite fast-moving animals, especially by turtle standards. Makes sense when living with other giant aquatic reptiles.

[wind prairie]

is dinheirosaurus valid again?

[autumn crescent]

So we still don’t exactly know where did megaraptoridae comes from, but couldn’t it be possible for them to be related to spinosauridae since they have some similarities like their sizes, giant claws and elongated heads ?

[tough parcel]

Superficial similarities

[stiff osprey]

megaraptorans are most likely coelurosaurs, with a lesser possibility of being allosauroids. but they are def not megalosauroids (where spinosauridae is located)

[charred hearth]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9crQvzlvZV0?feature=share how accurate is this presto?

[charred herald]

whoa why is everyone so smart

[tawdry lintel]

Hypothetically, could a hatchling Tyrannosaur be able to hunt an adult Tanystropheus ?

[charred hearth]

https://x.com/GaloisDY/status/2009426241460576731 very interesting animal, also, the authro of the paper even made a gijinka featuring all the animals features which is cool!

Galois (@GaloisDY)

My paper and my paleoart.

Kim et al. (2021) The first orthopteran fossils from the Lower Cretaceous (Albian) Jinju Formation of Korea: ethological implications for elcanids

https://t.co/o8M49IVft6

X · Jan 9, 2026, 12:45 AM

[hasty cargo]

OH GOD NO
It’s the locust from JW Dominion /j

[opaque kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[tough parcel]

Adorable, I fear

We should normalize this

[stiff osprey]

T.hydroides is far too big for a baby tyrannosaur to hunt. T.longobardicus probably? but being a hatchling it probably would be too inexperienced to fight it

[tough parcel]

It would hold X to highlight the vulnerable spots

[undone rapids]

No more paper skeletals, all papers will be accompanied by the author's own OC based on the animal

[winter marsh]

We need Meliodas in a size comparison with another short creature

[wind prairie]

I love how I can tell what that wojak is traced from lmao

[tawdry lintel]

Thanks

[tough parcel]

More

[charred hearth]

#freeHer

[tawdry lintel]

Shouldn't Paleozaniwas be as big as a Komodo ?

[charred hearth]

how accurate is saurians sizing for it?

[outer tusk]

perfect

[tawdry lintel]

They should be bigger in PoT

[charred hearth]

why

[plain spade]

Majungasaurus and concavenator

[native kindle]

im pretty sure their "palaeosaniwa" (store bought monitor) is already upscaled

[wispy stone]

Comparing in accuracy, do you think WWD 2025 or POT got t rex more accurate?

[fluid inlet]

How does Puru look from paleo accuracy point

[charred hearth]

like, movements or model?

[fluid inlet]

Model , not movement they legit just started making movement so it would be unfair to critique

[granite thicket]

yo I did not know this guy wrote a paper on mesozoic locusts
this guy is quite well known in korea for comics he draws btw

[drifting condor]

Who's your guys favorite dinosaur i like edmontosaurus!

[balmy oyster]

Might seem basic, but I love Tyrannosaurus. Everything about it is just awesome however you look at it

[drifting condor]

No dinosaur is basic i know a lot of people may think edmontosaurus is basic because they might think I only like it because its a big herbivore

[halcyon cobalt]

lesotho giant prosauropod

[outer tusk]

I think basic is awesome and are usually unappreciated when it comes to their actual ecology/anatomy

[drifting condor]

I know Lesotho one of my favorite countries

Do you guys think herbivorous dinosaurs would have round pupils or horizontal pupils?

[stiff osprey]

a vast majority round pupils, though horizontal is not impossible

[outer tusk]

you mean Lessemsaurus

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-smile-nod-nodding-ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-gif-39125060506973541

[halcyon cobalt]

is highland giant found to be lessemsaurus?

[stiff osprey]

HG is ledumahadi, not lessemsaurus

[outer tusk]

It's not even fro mthe same formation

[balmy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[fossil ingot]

Ahhh
Echoes of Extinction Puru my Beloved

[outer tusk]

this image had so much aura trust

[fossil ingot]

Its Beefy I love it

[ancient crystal]

Tyrannosaurus is the bestasaurus.

But yeah, there is no such thing as underrated or overrated animals. All that's just modern internet thinking poisoning how people approach science. All animals, no matter how large or small, are equally as interesting.

You see it a lot with Megalodon, with the whole, "muh, its just a big shark" bs.

[outer tusk]

I like Lavocatisaurus alot

[ashen wedge]

Now, I wanna try it, I’ll see how delicious it can be

[frigid delta]

peakest plot twist i've ever watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q_g-0Sthe8

[drifting condor]

If edmontosaurus played sports what do you think it would play

I tried drawing t rex my arts not very good

[charred hearth]

is it a dicreo

[fluid inlet]

https://youtu.be/eMSJM_oBcrI?si=c-fkE7lC1wW_UTZO wut

[tawdry lintel]

The seem pretty small in the game

[charred hearth]

thats because everything in pot is giant

[keen citrus]

Mango or bird

[tawdry lintel]

[rich vessel]

Perspective is a funny thing

[zealous ravine]

Not sure how I feel about it as a taxon but you have to love specimens like this

[spice latch]

Here’s some sunglasses 🕶️

Now we can be cool

[lavish frigate]

Unfathomably based. People who dog on T.rex to feel cool and edgy for the sake of it are missing out on one of, if not the absolute coolest animals Evolution has ever produced

[warped peak]

Tyrannosaurus is by all means an impressive animal. I do wish it was less domineering to the entirety of paleontology, but most people tend to look for idols and celebrities

Tyrannosaurus is just the "Kardashian"(?) of the dinosaurs

[ancient crystal]

What a horrific analogy

[charred hearth]

i have kim k's fortnite skin

[tawdry lintel]

Lmaoo

[balmy oyster]

[zealous ravine]

It’s cool but I’ve always found it to be rather basic, other tyrannosaurs have much more interesting features imo

[ancient crystal]

There is no such thing as basic imo.

A common white tail is as interesting as megaloceros, a city pidgeon is as interesting as a bird of paradise.

[zealous ravine]

Fair

[peak jetty]

The problem is public consciousness.

T. rex gets so much attention and representation that it is sometimes at the expense of anything else.

[tulip harness]

Dinosaur powerscalers are also an issue tbh. Alot of them have no interest in dinosaurs/other prehistoric animals unless they think they can powerscale it

[plush fossil]

I like dilophosaurus and I have a new found love for allosaurus

[green helm]

is livyatan 45 tons?

[keen citrus]

Why is Oxalaia always shown having a sail

[undone rapids]

Its an animal that is or very close to Spinosaurus, which has a sail.

[keen citrus]

Oxalaia couldn’t have been spinosaurus, pretty sure both of them are discovered in two different countries and how can you say that Oxalaia is very close to spinosaurus? Similar fragments?

[undone rapids]

Being in different countries doesn't mean they can't be the same animal. T. rex is found in both Canada and USA, Orginal Spinosaurus was from Egypt and current one we have is from Morrocco, Lions are in Africa and India. Though yes Oxalaias skull parts are more similar to Spinosaurus than to Bary or Sucho.

There are also other spinosaurids that are closer to Spinosaurus than to bary/Sucho, that also show some type of Sail

[keen citrus]

What I mean by “sail” is having a large sail just like spinosaurus

[balmy oyster]

the premax's are pretty similar and can be concluded it was spinosaurine, closer to spino

but what you said warms my heart because you understand how dinosaur geological speciation works

[green helm]

how big is livyatan

[undone rapids]

Yeah we see that on Spinosaurus mainly, we dunno if Oxa would've had such a long sail or what shape it'd be, but since its an animal very similar to Spinosaurus its given a large sail like spinosaurus in reconstrcutions

[keen citrus]

I also need an explanation for sigilimassaurus, where was it discovered? did it really have a large sail?

[undone rapids]

This is probably a good place to start : https://x.com/LancianIdolatry/status/1610756663719636992?s=20

Hell Creek Enthusiast (@LancianIdolatry)

Realm of the River Monsters: Part 1

A review and discussion of the taxonomy and classification of the enigmatic spinosaurs from North Africa.

A megathread.

X · Jan 4, 2023, 9:54 PM

We have alot of spinosaur material from north Africa, how much of it is spinosaurus and how much isn't is something only time will tell.

[plush fossil]

So sorry if I can't ask here but could anyone help me with my paleoart in #art-channel ? Or should I post it here and ask?

[grim haven]

@bitter oasis Scam
Edit: was referring to a deleted message

[bitter oasis]

thank you

[soft spear]

The Tyrannosaurus was very agile according to paleontological studies. Solve this in the game.

[outer tusk]

Do you have a paper for that

[native kindle]

there was like three of them

[fossil ingot]

I think so?
Maybe a bit lower

Livyatan melvillei GDI by Evoincarnate

Volume: 40168.6L
Density: 1.03
Mass: 41373.6 kg
With this Model atleast

[outer tusk]

imagine this but Livyatan

[silent knoll]

Any of you goobers have good dinosaur related YouTube channel suggestions? I already watch a lot of pot/isle stuff but I wanna pivot to learn more irl stuff.

[umbral socket]

I would suggest Factor Trace ^^ Their stuff is mostly dinosaur and evolution based, but I've watched some of their recent stuff where they explain dinosaur families and it's really good

[spice latch]

Livyatan comes back to life and the first thing people would do is turn it into fashion

[silent knoll]

Sweet, I'll check it out. Thanks!

[undone rapids]

Skeleton Crew, Your dinosaurs are wrong, Raptor Chatter are some nice ones

[true juniper]

What's the dinosaur in the first image

[undone rapids]

A new unnamed spinosaur from Thailand

[spice latch]

-# oxalaia

[undone rapids]

https://www.livescience.com/animals/dinosaurs/spinosaurus-relative-longer-than-a-pickup-truck-stalked-thailands-rivers-125-million-years-ago

[snow python]

What is chilantaisaurus? A megaraptoran?

[undone rapids]

Probably some type of Allosauroid/carcharodontosaur

[serene moat]

How fragile u talkin

[ancient crystal]

Obviously it was this agility that allowed the meek Tyrannosaurus to run away from the awesome power of the bull edmontosaurus in musth

[outer tusk]

☝️

[ancient crystal]

As a side note, I have made the Edmusthosaurus joke so many times in various discords that my phone now trys to fill in "bull edmontosaurus in musth" after simply typing the word "the"

[outer tusk]

lmao

[charred hearth]

https://x.com/Dexerto/status/2010335902854254848 i will always remember you random modern day plesiosaur that lives in the loch ness

Dexerto (@Dexerto)

Top Loch Ness Monster hunter says Nessie is fake after 52 years of searching

He says any sightings are ship wakes or other natural causes

X · Jan 11, 2026, 1:00 PM

[ancient crystal]

How do you justifiably spend 52 years of your life searching for a hoax

[thorn token]

Fun fact: the tyrannosaurus had padded feet so you would only feel it in your body and hear twigs snapping

[stiff osprey]

no way they blurred the outlines of the good dinosaur sauropods and put them in a lake 💀

[thorn token]

Bro how dedicated do you have to be for that to take 52 years

[ancient crystal]

Not dedicated, delusional

[thorn token]

That's a great word for stupidity

[thorn grove]

the bull edmusthosaurus in musth would be proud of your dedication to the ways of musth

[hardy sentinel]

52 years of searching is most likely just an over exaggeration and leaving out details

Like if I'm making a painting and I take a 3 year break from it and then say it took me 3 years to paint it

I'm not wrong but I'm clearly leaving out details

[plush fossil]

Nooo waayy it's fake? My life is ruined I never knew that

[hazy basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-part-2-dune-part-two-stilgar-i-believe-gif-6904690743053739510

[ashen wedge]

Is that the shadow of Arlo from the Good Dinosaur? What is he doing in Loch Ness?

[tough parcel]

Vacation

[drowsy spade]

is the barinsuchus “downsize” really accepted or reliable?

[outer tusk]

I really don't, will not, and have not understand why people MUST use "downsize" as some weird either smoking gun or grsopel for certain prehistoric, 99% fragmentary ones like Barinasuchus as if reconstruction for alot of these are just rather speculative

[vocal rover]

That can't be a real fossil looks like plaster.

[outer tusk]

Barinasuchus slander will not be tolerated

[balmy oyster]

It is real thankfully

[tough parcel]

Lmao

[outer tusk]

YES

[outer tusk]

I know this is a meme but using this reference and imagining being in that exact scene would be so terrifying

[spice latch]

Alr uh

Why do they give it a sail