paleontology

[compact leaf]

we already discussed sauropod beaks but it isn’t guaranteed that any sauropod had a beak

[charred hearth]

oh, i always remember feilong talking aboujt how amarga would have a form of beak

[sharp jackal]

hello!

[wind prairie]

wait, there was no space between them?

[junior dawn]

there is, just not as much as people tend to think

PoT’s spines and “sails” are too far apart

[tough parcel]

For reference

(I think this is from the original description so disregard the comment about keratinized horn sheath)

[charred hearth]

heres the sail subspecies

[velvet burrow]

-# I will never not curse the use of the term "subspecies" from Path of Titans

[charred hearth]

well, what would y'all call them instead?

[junior dawn]

species, which is what they are

[velvet burrow]

Or morphs

[tough parcel]

Musths

[winter marsh]

sigma transforms

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-eyes-gif-12986700

[charred hearth]

do you think it would be reasonable to give amarga a baja species?

[compact leaf]

before the sty tlc I would say no but that has an einio sub so why not

[charred hearth]

besides the spine / sail reversing, would anything change?

[hallow spear]

Species, not sub species

[tough parcel]

Just say sub and it's ok because it could also mean "substitute" or "sub-class"

[quasi path]

@sharp jackal Can we see any evidence of allo behaving or even hunting like a lion?? Cuz thats not really a case

Dont use WWD as an argument, even wwd is outdated.

[charred hearth]

how would you get evidence of that

[sharp jackal]

again real life wasn't like the movies sorry. If u watched WWD (ever heard of it???) then u would know that they probably hunted in packs to take down long necks

[quasi path]

Idk, they are claiming Allo had evidence of it and was the lion of the jurassic

[unborn spade]

@empty socket You glazeing allo a bit to much

[charred hearth]

oh, dont argue with dibbles, hes really dense and cannot understand other viewpoints so you'll just be talking to a wall

is there a fight in backer chat or something?

[sharp jackal]

thats rich coming from a nano denier.

[empty socket]

yea he’s saying ALLO KING OF ALL CREATURES ON POT 💯 TLC won’t change lives when it clearly will

[charred hearth]

i support nano fully?

[quasi path]

Wwd is outdated, Is Not a source aswell

Allosaurus has No Evidence of Hunting in packs and not even on sauropods

[unborn spade]

Glaze

[fluid inlet]

If Allo is king why did torvo bully him 🤨

[sharp jackal]

no when i told this chat about nano being drypto u were one of the people who denied it. u and that mean guy Gualicho made fun of me for saying the truth

[charred hearth]

dont bring up people who arent here

[peak quail]

basically said a bunch of misinfo and uses WWD as a form of information when that documentary is heavily inaccurate now

[snow terrace]

Allo fans when a campto kicks an allo in the middle of its skull and one shots it:

[empty socket]

Because Torvo was just made bro nobody gaf about Torvo

[unborn spade]

Ok it did hunt sauropods tho

[sharp jackal]

it was accurate for the time. can't say the same about jurassic park tho

[charred hearth]

allo most def did hunt sauropods, maybe not the large ones or adults of most, but it WAS a sauropod hunter, even if it was just the juvies

[quasi path]

Nobody is mentioning Jurassic park AGAIN

[unborn spade]

Why every time someone says something different about allo u always bring up the JW franchise

[fluid inlet]

Respect torvo young man.

[charred hearth]

raging triceratops is right and we should all listen to him, he says no wrong

[quasi path]

I meant there is no evidence of pack hunting, even on sauropods

[sharp jackal]

I'm just debunking common misconceptions. But even if we ignore JP it doesn't change the fact that WWD is probably more accurate, and they clearly refer to allo as the lion of the jurassic

[unborn spade]

I'm not saying it was a pack hunter

[tough parcel]

Chat, this is called "bait" and Dapper is notorious for doing so

I suggest returning to whatever you were doing prior to this and having fun

[quasi path]

Im not saying you are dw 😭

[sharp jackal]

Pantz just told u we know at the very least the juvies hunted sauropods

[snow terrace]

Fully grown brachi when a juve allo approaches:

[charred hearth]

dyslexia core ❤️

[unborn spade]

Google is free, just search allosaurus name meaning

[sharp jackal]

nano denier, ignore him

[quasi path]

I mean you were wrong, Nano wasnt drypto

[tough parcel]

Anyways, if you're insistent on this line of discussion, Allo has no evidence for or against pack hunting

You can do either or especially due to the range of habitats they were in

[sharp jackal]

as in dryptosaurid. and @unborn spade i know what allosaurus means

[fluid inlet]

So many arguments everywhere in this discord going on right now 🤣

[charred hearth]

wheres the other ones i wanna watch

[quasi path]

You said Allosaurus meant Jurassic lion 😭

[tough parcel]

It still is not a dryptosaurid, that is one out of 8 outcomes

Even Napoli explicitly stated it was not confirmed to be a dryptosaur so I dunno why you're so insistent

[sharp jackal]

both its relation to drypto and its validity were questioned. and now look. everything i said about nano in 2022 was published this year

[tough parcel]

Anyways, I'm going back to my funny Lost Tapes marathon, I suggest y'all do something similar

Dapper's MO is "I'm right, you're wrong and nothing you say will be right"

[charred hearth]

i wasnt even in this server in 2022??

[quasi path]

Understood

[tough parcel]

Have fun y'all, have a great night

[sharp jackal]

yea i mean when u look at its ecology it basically was the jurassic equivalent of a lion

[unborn spade]

I'm going to school

[tough parcel]

Oh no...I'm sorry soldier, good luck out there

[unborn spade]

Thanks commander,i will fight with all i have

[sharp jackal]

So yea even tho wwd is outdated my point still stands

[charred hearth]

bro gotta fight his demons aint nobody listening 😭

[sharp jackal]

and it was pretty accurate for the time. a lot more accurate than the JP movies are. When will people realize that dinosaurs were real animals and not monsters

[sharp jackal]

you would think that people on dinosaur discord server would know that movies aren't the most reliable source of scientific information...

[fluid inlet]

Guys everyone respect each other 🫶🏽🩷🤎🤍

[ancient crystal]

This channel is just a Jurassic Park discussion thread dontcha know?

[sharp jackal]

yea and thats kinda my issue. No one seems to care about actually legititame sources

[ancient crystal]

I mean... not really?

Yeah, people talk about JP here and its kinda annoying, even moreso when they expect scientific accuracy from the franchise.

But not once have I seen it the other way around. Nobody is citing Jurassic Park for anything.

Also I seriously question the usefulness of WD as a source in 2025

[lofty creek]

if yall could summon a complete, not crushed nor compressed skull of a dinosaur for paleo workers, which one would yall lads choose?

1. Chilantaisaurus
2. Torvosaurus
3. Oxalaia
4. Maip
5. Saltriovenator
6. Pycnonemosaurus
7. Gasosaurus
   bonus: Arambourgiania

[ancient crystal]

Oxalaia on the assumption that it won't burst into flames the second researchers try and examine it like the cursed remains all spinosaurs seem to be

[hollow canyon]

[stable sun]

Bahariasaurus

[undone rapids]

Pycno would be cool, though i'd like to see Torvo or chilantai a bit more

[runic heart]

I have a better question. If yall could summon a fully preserved fully mummified skeleton with coloration, scales from every part of the body, any feather or other integument it may have had, and perhaps inner organs like vocal cords, what kind of animal would it be?

I’d say either Triassic basal theropod, or an allosaurus.

[granite monolith]

why do barely any path of titans players realise that the spino is not factually correcrt

[ancient crystal]

Because they don't care, nor does it really matter. Its a videogame

[open compass]

What's wrong with spino?

[granite monolith]

this one is from path of titans

[granite monolith]

this is the scientifically accurate one

[spice latch]

That’s not the base sub ._.

[brave nova]

I think bro is a few updates behind. Current pot spino is pretty accurate

[spice latch]

Yea xD

[native kindle]

Nothronychus, Stegosaurus, Mamenchisaurus, Paraxenisaurus or Siats

[fossil ingot]

Bro ks stuck on 2020 update

[open compass]

It's an old spino, they updated it, it got a TLC

[open compass]

It's not accurate

[ashen wedge]

As of our current knowledge of Spinosaurus, it is accurate

[brazen wraith]

Does anyone have an accurate Brachi reference I could take a gander at

[open compass]

It's proportions are not, the artist updated it

[brave nova]

(Lips on spino is also unlikely)

[open compass]

Yeah

[brave nova]

In media the most accurate depiction of spino is in WWD reconstruction wise

[brazen wraith]

Genuine question since I don’t know much about dinosaurs, I jsut think there cool

How have we not found another one, we have like 7 trexes complete, how is this one, who was also massive, so hard to dig up? Like there has to be more spino fossils

[ashen wedge]

We still don’t know…. Fully

[open compass]

A better one

[brave nova]

Fossilisation is a very rare process to happen and especially for them to then survive until now. There probs are a lot more spino fossils out there that we just haven’t found. Speaking of them there have been multiple of a new spinosaurus species found

Collectively we do have a pretty good idea on spino

[granite thicket]

there are many spino individuals found
it's jsut that they're all incomplete plus we don't know if they're actually spino to begin with

[brazen wraith]

But like.. don’t we have so many trexes.. do they just have crazy RNG? Like I know there on different continents and I’m sure that has something probably a lot to do with it, but I feel like they shoulda dug kne up

[brazen wraith]

Didn’t they have a complete one and the nazis bombed it? Or was that a dream I had?

[granite thicket]

except we don't know if they're all actually spinos or diff species

[brave nova]

There are only 4 specimens actually assigned to spino itself

[brave nova]

The holotype was destroyed in ww2 (the top one in the thing I sent) it wasn’t a complete one

[granite thicket]

nope
even stromer's original material is pretty scrappy
it's the top one in the image posted by realstonks

[brazen wraith]

But it was bombed by nazis.. that part was real.. that’s wild

[brazen wraith]

So you’re telling me that we have somehow found less and less? How do we know this thing even existed? If we have nothing to go off of, or barely anything.. I’m also super tired so I could be reading that wrong

[granite thicket]

even NHMUK and MSNM are considered as spinosaurus indet
and then there's spino B and all the other mess
so we do have bunch of "spino"s
it's jsut that we don't know if they're the same thing or not

[granite thicket]

at least spino is in better state than temeryraptor and stomatosuchus which are still lost to this day

[brazen wraith]

You lost me, we have any idea what those look like? Or are they completely lost

[granite thicket]

we have pictures of tameryraptor fossils, which was how they figured out it was a different species to carchar
in case of stomato, we know that it's a filter feeder croc with a skull bigger than that of deinosuchus
but it ends there

[brazen wraith]

That’s actually kinda fire

[undone rapids]

Brits iirc, the museum was in germany and they didn't like Stromer so they didn't protect the fossils iirc

[brazen wraith]

Oh Damnn.. I looked it up you right, the British bombed spinosaurus… damn

[brazen wraith]

That… is not as cool as I expected
Cool but not giant croc cool

[brave nova]

We have a a decent amount to go off for spino (pictures of the holotype and the neotype itself) we know spino exists as we have the remains of it

[brave nova]

Yea it’s abit of a mess. Hopefully the upcoming paper does it more justice as there’s meant to be multiple scrimitar specimens

[brazen wraith]

Yeah but those bones could belong to anything, especially if there not found together, I dunno I’m not a paleontologist I’ll take you word for it

[granite thicket]

could be possible since spino B's proportions are way different compared to the neotype

[ancient crystal]

Environment T. rex lived in + the US spending absurd amounts of money (relative to the rest of the world) on paleontology means lots of Tyrannosaurus get unearthed

[granite thicket]

USA being rich rly makes the biggest difference

[brazen wraith]

But they do so much excavation and archeology work in Egypt.. you don’t think that they’d devote any resources to spinosuarus?

[granite thicket]

I'm guessing fossils quickly erode in sahara
either that or soil quality results in producing poor fossils

[brazen wraith]

Prolly something like that. Or there jsut not interested in the big spino

[ancient crystal]

Also consider how unfathomably long archaeology and excavations have been taking place in egypt and the surrounding area. It's one of the oldests civilizations on the planet, I'd wager a bet that quite a few fossils were unearthed thousands of years ago that simply did not survive to today as a result.

[granite thicket]

kinda funny how even fossils from morroco are not that well preserved tho
ig africa's soil quality is bad

[brazen wraith]

Yeha that makes sense, and there whole thing is the pyramids and the Egyptian gods and the sphinx… but show some love to spinosaurus he’s cool to

[granite thicket]

everyone is baffled about spino
even paleontologists

[fossil ingot]

Deino and Stomato are fun
Both are Bobblehead

[undone rapids]

Alot of fossils found in North Africa are also just sold to the black marhet and such

even the current neotype spino was found due to a fossil seller iirc, and some of the material was recovered from museums he had sold its material to.

Its why Mongolia is so strict with its Fossils and why we see a Tarbosaurus skull being returned every now and then, need those laws in more countries implemented

[granite thicket]

stomato has long skull so it's expected
jsut like with gharials

[ancient crystal]

Oh, that's Tylosaurus releasing with a new map. Everyone without #path-of-titans blocked get ready for a deludge of toxicity

[spice latch]

Good luck bro

[tough parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/tylosaurus-jurassic-park-the-game-gif-26939921

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[hallow spear]

Allosaurus anax isnt Saurophaganax
There is previously reffered Sauropha remains inside of anax, but Sauropha is its own thing that is a nomen dubium, they are not interchangeable anymore

[spice latch]

Saurophaganax is a sauropod

[hushed fossil]

HOW ACCURATE IS THE NEW TYL-

[hard swift]

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[hallow spear]

this is not how it works

[hard swift]

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[hallow spear]

A. anax is not obscure

[hard swift]

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[hallow spear]

it objectively isnt lol

[hard swift]

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[undone rapids]

Feel like a good way to make em realize that would be to just use anax when its anax so if someone doesn't understand, they'll just ask why/what anax is and learn.

[compact leaf]

what did you use for brachiosaurus here? just out of curiosity

[hard swift]

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[compact leaf]

yeah I was asking about silhouette specifically because I didn't recognize it

[tulip dove]

This one I believe

[hard swift]

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[compact leaf]

oh nice looks like paint paddock I think

[tough parcel]

What? How are you getting any of that

[spice latch]

Nah

[outer tusk]

it's from his ass and his dreams

[hardy sentinel]

Brotato chip we do NOT have Anax arms ✌️😭

[hard swift]

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[undone rapids]

I don't think we know if Anax had proportionally larger arms than other allosauruses. or much about its proportions at all cuz bone bed

[outer tusk]

would it be dumb to draw "A. anax" as abelisaur for the goofs?

[tall vale]

lol no arm anax

[spice latch]

Dew it

[outer tusk]

bet

[undone rapids]

Do it, but don't give it functional elbows, cuz abelisaur. So it'd just have long completely straight arms that it can rotate very fast

[outer tusk]

gotcha

[tulip gyro]

new map looked great in the trailer, just seems like a pain to travel with smth big.

[fossil ingot]

Its smaller than Gondwa

So if you traveled through Gondwa you can prob do it fine here

[tulip gyro]

is it, it looks bigger on the map, and i mainly mean that it will be hard to travel cuz in the trailer weve seen barely flat terrain, mostly huge drops and cliffs

[ancient crystal]

Yeah its 5x5 whereas gondwa is 8x8

Its a good thing too, these maps were too big for the lobby size

[stiff osprey]

how big is Panjura? it felt bigger than gondwa the few times i played in it

[charred hearth]

so...how accurate is tylo?

[ancient crystal]

Also 8x8 but the entire map is transversable by all the available playables so it feels a lot bigger than gondwa.

[stiff osprey]

more land area, makes sense

also tylo looks peak to me

[light osprey]

Does it have Crocodyliform dorsal scutes?

[ancient crystal]

Yeah, Tylo is pretty great. At first I thought it was kinda small but, no, it just turns out Eurhinosaurus is just that big

[charred hearth]

does tylo win the award for most accurate marine reptile in PoT or is eurinho fighting for its life to save it

[stiff osprey]

No there are just paired wrinkles on the top

[stiff osprey]

Tylo also can be anywhere from like 7 meters to 13 meters depending on species

[light osprey]

It doesn’t have any obviously wrong design choices
So yes

[charred hearth]

does eurinho?

are we excited for what kai tlc will look like?

[spice latch]

It already got its tlc >.>

[ancient crystal]

Its due for a remodel still, it has gotten an ability TLC

[spice latch]

I like its current model ngl, even if it isn’t accurate

[charred hearth]

yeah i meant model tlc

[fossil ingot]

Peak

[fossil ingot]

Sarco is also like
Big

[tough parcel]

Amazing, they had a Mosasaur researcher consult on it and they gave it thumbs up (with adjustments like the ridges to make it visually distinct for the game)

[ancient crystal]

I will say I haven't seen anyone complaining about Tylo's model so it's definitely one of their best

[stiff osprey]

Me and my pet lizard (he is suffocating help him)

[fossil ingot]

Yeah
Amelia I think is her name

[tough parcel]

Just as a point of reference

[charred hearth]

" paper these nuts "

ooo, we getting major news for tylo soon?

[tough parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/guess-well-find-out-jacob-dutton-harrison-ford-1923-we-will-know-that-gif-13924432661313918615

[fossil ingot]

Peak

[outer tusk]

I though ramming was already an established large mosasaurini trait, ig not

[wind prairie]

oh yoooo amelia worked on this thing???
sick it shows

[primal ice]

Since tylo came out rate it out of 10 in accuracy

[junior dawn]

def one of the best in the game

[normal fable]

0/10 because it's not micoraptor smh

[primal ice]

I have a feeling due to new map and that the trees are different we might get micro after Christmas that's my theory

[junior dawn]

0/10 because zach made it…… ruined what could’ve been a cute fluffy unique design….

[normal fable]

True☝️

[junior dawn]

the model is so good. Love the different scale types based on the actual remains we have from different mosasaurs. The ridge also looks really nice imo, adds some style and uniqueness to it while still being a plausible feature

[primal ice]

Also a monitor lizard tongue

[junior dawn]

i imagine the default skin is also based on that one platecarpus fossil

[light osprey]

Saving the best for last

[junior dawn]

leedsichthys

[full lagoon]

How fast is this thing on land? I keep seeing pictures of it on the beaches.

[runic heart]

Looks awesome, though it is too similar to a monitor imo. Sure, mosasaurs were squamates, but recent studies show they were actually pretty far from monitor lizards specifically.

It looks awesome, but I still like Deadsound’s tylo better. My favorite Pot design in terms of accuracy and appeal is tyrannotitan. My absolute favorite, nothing else in game tops it.

[outer tusk]

in what way besides maybe the scales?

[wind prairie]

the consultant literally specializes in mosasaurs and iirc she says more whale like portrayals like deadsound's are less likely

[outer tusk]

Deadsound's tylo is whale-like?

[runic heart]

Mm, well there ya have it I guess.

[fossil ingot]

Yeah, here what she said

[outer tusk]

my only gripe is the venom part but ofc other than that it's a pretty soild tylosaur

[tough parcel]

(It's not venomous, they misinterpreted someon else's comments earlier)

[runic heart]

Cant imagine php mosasaurus is too barrel-bodied, right?

[sudden wind]

It is too barrel-bodied.

[fossil ingot]

Its To chunky yeah

[wind prairie]

yeah it's a bit extra on the girth, it even seems to have whale belly lines?

[runic heart]

Welp.

[fluid inlet]

If you don’t like tylo go play beast of Bermuda !

[outer tusk]

it's based on Inicn's

[runic heart]

Oh I love it. Just wasn’t sure the reasoning behind some design choices. More bummed that the php mosasaur is inaccurate..

[fossil ingot]

POT Tylo I think the first mosasaur model that takes into account the new swept back ribs

I think

[outer tusk]

outdated*

[fossil ingot]

The True Chunk

[outer tusk]

bro even has chins 😭

[junior dawn]

PoTs tylo is as good as it gets really

or at least, as good as it’s gotten so far

[scenic flame]

he needs mouse bites to live.

[light osprey]

I too am in this episode

[runic heart]

We can only hope it’ll get even better. Btw, what is the general consensus on those old tarbosaur skeletons, one of which supposedly had a dewlap?

[junior dawn]

we will never know cause it was lost

[runic heart]

Ik 😭

[honest cobalt]

Is Riparia based on an old landmass? Or is it completely made up

Since gondwa is Gondwana

[bright veldt]

It seems to be in reference to the "Riparian Zone", which in topography describes a transitioning area between land and water. Which is accurate given the entire map is basically a slow transition between ocean and coastal wetlands to arid highlands.

[honest cobalt]

Oh nice! May have to look it up! Ty scan

[runic heart]

Is the tylosaurs swim animation more snake based? Cause I thought they swam more like sharks, with mostly tail movement.

[bright veldt]

Mosasaurs tmk swam a bit between serpentine and fish, not exactly akin to either.

[full lagoon]

The tail movement on the tylosaur is amazing

[stiff osprey]

just played it, yeah it looks real nice

[runic heart]

I thought there was a paper about their bodies being less flexible or something, was that changed?

[stiff osprey]

their vertebrae are not much different from modern lizards aside from the tail, there's no reason they'd be particularly stiff

[light osprey]

Much like the seal

[fluid inlet]

https://x.com/tm9380/status/2000741045244461374?s=46

Taylor McCoy 🦖 (@TM9380)

Sauropods had a variety of tooth shapes among the group. Some were spoon shaped. Others like pencils. But in the end they were all effective at defoliating plants to power their elephant to whale sized bodies

Art by Carlosdino

X · Dec 16, 2025, 1:33 AM

[full lagoon]

I've heard claims that the camarasaurus would even have eaten bark.

[severe yew]

heck, the Camarasaurus would even eat you

[full lagoon]

[drowsy spade]

Could a trex be as tall as the theropods from jw franchise i need to know my brain is braining

[runic heart]

Which theropods..?

[stiff osprey]

Allegedly the Rex from JW rebirth is 4.6 meters tall. Which is a normal size for a rex

Giga and the dominion rex are like, 5.5-6 meters? Not very realistic

[charred hearth]

what has the more drastic upsize, wwd pliosaur or jw mosa

[lofty creek]

maybe tylo upper tail shall be slightly smaller and the total shape less upside-down shark tail according to the very new paper?

other parts pretty ok

[winter marsh]

probably the jwfk mosa, considering its like 3 or 4 times larger than the real one. If its 4 times then its mosa. If its not then its a tie probably

[robust nest]

i give it a 8/10 because its not microraptor but it is my fav dino and its decently acurate

[spice latch]

Erm acshually tylosaurus was not a dinosaur it was a marine reptile🤓

[robust nest]

erm acshually most dinosaurs are reptiles

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/ruckus-this-cant-be-no-this-cant-be-sad-read-letter-gif-14293155805878050145

[tough parcel]

"Most"

Which dinosaur is not a reptile

[wooden agate]

Would Cryolophosaurus have feathers?

[plucky basin]

pretty sure they mean avian dinosaurs (birds) but everything descending from a certain clade is still in that clade, so all birds are reptiles if you think about it 🤔

[runic heart]

Idk, Antarctica was hot when it lived.

[little mauve]

if feathers are the ancestral condition for dinosaurs + pterosaurs then it's possible, we're not sure where and when feathers are lost in which lineages. Skin impressions aren't great to go on either as skin can preserve where feathers do not, feathers only preserve under very specific conditions

[lavish frigate]

If ornithischians have feathers isn’t it at the very least necessary to say they are ancestral to all dinosaurs

[winter marsh]

if you think this way then everything is primodial soup

[bright veldt]

Given pterosaurs also have feathers it goes back to ornithodira at least.

[little mauve]

that seems most likely agreed

[burnt hare]

If we had access to Yutyrannus then we may have a clearer answer (at least for theropods), but no western scientists have been allowed to examine any of the three specimens, and to the best of my knowledge no major papers have been published about it. Other than it being the largest known feathered dinosaur.

[little mauve]

It's still a coelurosaur and I think it's safe to say feathers were widespread in the group. Where they're retained and/or expressed more basally in tetanurae, like in cryolophosaurus, is a bigger mystery

[compact leaf]

dilophosaurus or something very similar (the resting print) had feathers so it’s not unlikely that cryo had them as well

[little mauve]

the resting print has feathers? Totally forgot that, yeah I'd say it's very likely cryolophosaurus would have had them

[compact leaf]

iirc it has a scaly underbelly with prints of feathers around the fringes

[bright veldt]

Pretty sure they were mud cracks.

[little mauve]

looks like they're controversial yeah

[granite thicket]

Some say that was just the result of it sitting on a plant

[little mauve]

best pics I can find are pretty low quality

[compact leaf]

yeah I don't really remember much of a consensus on it, I haven't heard about them being mud cracks before but it's possible

[granite thicket]

Whats the oldest known dino with feathers btw
Is it anchiornis?

[compact leaf]

kulindadromeus is older

[granite thicket]

Oh rly
Crazy

[little mauve]

I believe the pterosaur feather record is about that old as well

[queen vortex]

Give me an entire paragraph on how marine reptiles are so different from dinosaurs and that just because it’s a extinct reptile doesn’t mean that all extinct reptiles are dinosaurs

[lofty creek]

there are 2 papers about contents on further description of Yutyrannus by IVPP but no content about feather, one is osteology in 2018, another one weight estimate using 3d model and digital method in 2019

maybe the only thing new we know about their feather is that the structure quite similar to Beipiaosaurus feather, revealed by local museum

[warm saddle]

Because they're from diffrent clades, archosauria for dinosaur, while tylosaurs are from lepidosauromorpha, essentially yes they are both part of reptilia but from completely diffrent brach from one anotner, tylosaurus's close living reletives are squamates like lizards n snakes, while dinosaur's closest living reletives are Crocodilians and birds.

And for plesiosaurs/plio they're also outside of archosauria so not that closely related to dinosaur either

[winter marsh]

''dimetrodon is a dinosaur'' statement

[lofty creek]

Dinosaurus is Synapsida btw

which is not a joke

[hardy sentinel]

We will never forgive Fischer for that

Dinosaurus is so sad bruh, its name is always auto corrected to Dinosauria and most of it's Wikipedia page is how it's not a dinosaur

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaurus

[chrome brook]

talking about pycnonemosaurus

Size: It is estimated to have reached 8.9 to 9 meters (29–30 feet) in length and weighed approximately 3.6 tons. This makes it slightly larger and more robust than the famous Carnotaurus

So why does it look so small in game?

[winter marsh]

because everything else is huge

[hardy sentinel]

Because it's a medium giant among huge giants

[winter marsh]

the 3.6 ton pycno aint doing schlatt against the 10 ton rex

[hardy sentinel]

Alderon Rex is easily pushing 13 tons

[winter marsh]

I underestimated it so we can give our lil kro some hope yk

[frosty cedar]

How big is this guy getting???

[brave nova]

It’s a 13.2m long 4.5m hip height Rex. Anywhere from 12-13t seems about right

[frosty cedar]

Oh, are you talking about rex in Path of Titans?

[hardy sentinel]

Yes, Alderon (the game company who made PoT) Rex

[stiff osprey]

The concept of someone finding another cope/goliath sized rex and naming it alderon

[plush fossil]

I guess you could say he's walking the path along titans🥹

Holy peak

[primal field]

Anyone else think hatz needs a remodel

its thin neck is unsettling

[cobalt wigeon]

So spinosaurus arms were more wing like or more flipper like?

[queen vortex]

Maybe? The Dino’s in path of Titans are like trying to look quite scientifically accurate

Make the neck a lil chunkier and I think it’s good to go

[queen vortex]

I like to see them as flippers because it weirdly reminds me of one

[cobalt wigeon]

someone dropped ❔ emoji 😂 real life is not video game sweetheart

[queen vortex]

What if I threw a allosaurus at you

[fossil ingot]

Remember we don't have Hatz's Neck
We don'r even know it would be this Chunky

When all your Material is this, is rather hard
Thicker Neck Hatz comes from some material that was refered to it which tmk no longer is

[granite thicket]

So technically you can just make quetz and argue its a hatz like back in 2010s now?

[cobalt wigeon]

we have a neck of hatz tho?

[fossil ingot]

Kinda
You can make Hatz have a proportionally Shorter Neck but slighty more Robust(since what we have is slightly more robust than Quetz)

[granite thicket]

Def needs to be reanimated btw

[fossil ingot]

We don't
What we had before was like 1 Neck Bone but that was refered material which is atp no longer Hatz, you CAN maybe Argue all that refered Material to be a Close Relative of Hatz and try make its Neck Thicker, but it wouldn't be THAT much thicker, it will be thicker but not like Dwarfing Quetz's Neck

[cobalt wigeon]

WE DO

we have one neck bone, thanks to comparative anatomy we can have an idea about how its neck looked like

[fossil ingot]

Hatz is still proportionally more robust anyways

@cobalt wigeon Described? We don't
You are talking about the refered Material LOL
Which I already said, is no longer Considered Hatz but a Possible Close Relative

[granite thicket]

So is php's hatz accurate?

[fossil ingot]

This is an Earlier Hatz Description
INCLUDING the All Refered Material

What is Circle in Red, is Basically what we know its Actually Hatz

[cobalt wigeon]

||comparative anatomy||

[granite thicket]

Oof
Its spino all over again

[granite thicket]

Cant do that when there are no overlapping parts

[fossil ingot]

Again
The More Recent Family Paper of this Guy doesn't lump the refered Material to Hatz "comparative Anatomy"
Nothing Says the Neck Bone is From Hatz cause we don't have a Neck Bone for the Holotype
It has no Overlapping

[fossil ingot]

I mean
Its Plausible
If you Consider Hatz has a Similar build to the Refer Material yeah, php Neck isn't overly To Thick anyways

[cobalt wigeon]

why cant you just accept hatz had thicker neck than other azhdarchids ?

[granite thicket]

Btw wasnt there a paper recently that suggested that Q. lawsoni and Q. northropi are likely diff genuses

[fossil ingot]

Haven't they always been?
Let me see if I have the Family Paper that came out this year

Don't mind the Red Circles

[undone rapids]

Thanatosdrakon lawsoni

[fossil ingot]

[granite thicket]

Thats a mess

[queen vortex]

It’s honestly sad to see some people making fun of oxalaia fans

Just because oxalaia has like two fragmentary fossils doesn’t mean it is bad or smth and not all oxalaia fans are trying to act “different”

“Oh you probably just like oxalaia!!” Oxalaia is not my fav, it isn’t even in my top 5 dinos

[outer tusk]

so what happen

[runic heart]

Though, you have to admit, the idea of it being Spinosaurus is kinda cool cause that means it crossed the ocean, even if it wasn’t that wide. However, there is that new Brazilian giant spinosaurine under wraps, so that could finally end the whole thing.

[outer tusk]

since am a hateful person I don't like the idea of it being a spinosaurus cause this means a spinosaurus was stupid enough to travel all the way from Africa to all to Brazil where it was already perfectly fine in

[undone rapids]

Who knows, maybe Spinosaurines originated in South America and moved to Africa

[runic heart]

Well, then there’s the European ones.

[queen vortex]

But I also kind of hope oxalaia doesn’t look almost entirely like spinosaurus, if it does look almost like it I’ll have trouble identifying which one is which

[runic heart]

While I doubt the new Brazilian material is oxalaia itself, there is a rumor that it has more normally proportioned theropod legs when compared to Spinosaurus.

[outer tusk]

how would it "almose" look like spinosaurus 😭

[queen vortex]

Some arts of oxalaia I found and it almost looks like spinosaurus like identical

[undone rapids]

Well yeah, we don't really have much of it so we'll use spino to complete it. Same with any new spinos

[runic heart]

Well, yeah. It’s a spinosaurine.

[queen vortex]

I was expecting it to be a spinosaurid with no sail like baryonyx and suchomimus

[undone rapids]

If we find a spinosaurine with no sail and its close to oxalalia then sure

[outer tusk]

so here's the aplha male method make it look absolutely nothing like a current spinosuarinae depiction and just use an outdated skeletal

[queen vortex]

If oxalaia did look like this then I would be fine with it

[outer tusk]

you can always depict it as some kind od irritator like animal

[runic heart]

Big irritator would be cool

[queen vortex]

What if there’s a spinosaurid with like a concavenator sail

[undone rapids]

Or maybe

[queen vortex]

Every dinosaur is adorable, name one that looks ugly I dare you

[harsh forge]

Vultures

[queen vortex]

How tho

[frigid delta]

is Megaloceros a Deer or an Elk?

[harsh forge]

Ugly

[granite thicket]

Greater sage grouse

[granite thicket]

Deer

[green helm]

My Guy looks like he hut the gym a bit

[winter marsh]

I-I-I cant, its impossible

[winter marsh]

I have three, Spicomellus, Incisivosaurus and Pegomastax

[queen vortex]

Pegomastax looks like something that would jump on me and skin me alive and tear me apart

[stable sun]

No because it is related only to short neck taxa

[stable sun]

"atp no longer Hatz" - why? It was always a referred specimen, in terms of bone texture it is Hatz like

[ancient crystal]

What are we? PaleoGPT

[queen vortex]

Dw I already explained to him

[stable sun]

4mm thick cortical bone is super rare in pterosaurs and Hatz and EME 315 have it

[plucky basin]

soup, yumyumyumyumyuuuuuum 🤤

[runic heart]

Who would have guessed that the spinosaur ate fish…

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-memes-memes2022funny-meme-face-punch-gif-25436787

[spice latch]

It’s accurate size ingame, it just so happens that the smallest thing ingame is the size of a person, messes with scale

[opaque kayak]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DSVBkUSDCmV/?igsh=dDRpYTIwZXJkaWxu

dean_r_lomax

Some hugggggge palaeo news coming next year!

This is your heads up to say "I told you so!", when you see it. It's part of a big project we've been working on and, well, as a little hint, here's a replica of the massive skull of the Triassic ichthyosaur Cymbospondylus youngorum from Nevada, USA. One of my favourite ichthyosaur skulls.

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[ashen wedge]

I know which one is ugly, ravens

[lavish frigate]

Five thousand compsognathus, eat this man

[ashen wedge]

They asked for my opinion

[formal dove]

Bro is a raven hater that’s crazy

[ashen wedge]

They deserve my hate, they attacked me when I was a kid

[lavish frigate]

Free speech doesnt mean that you won’t be eaten by 5000 compsognathus after you say something, the ravens shall not be mocked 😔 🙏

[lavish frigate]

And they ate all my dead chickens, but I still acknowledge they are cute little men who I want to boop the snoot of

[burnt nacelle]

rq yall know birds are dinos and raptors are very bird like so is it possible that they can mimic sounds like a parrot

[runic heart]

So what exactly is this about….

[formal dove]

@coral pasture pegomastax, isisaurus, suzhousaurs

[honest cobalt]

My people

[ashen wedge]

In all honesty, y’all wanted an opinion and I have you gave you one on the ugliest dinosaur

[burnt nacelle]

can somone answer

[spice latch]

It’s very unlikely, as that does requires very specific biology, however there’s nothing saying they couldn’t. Pretty sure we need some evidence of the fleshy bits to see if they could

[burnt nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-breathing-heavy-tf2-sunshine-heavy-sunshine-you-are-my-sunshine-gif-2323590842906866074

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-heavy-my-honest-reaction-gif-8870827506935116922

[little mauve]

Their forebrain anatomy very likely does not support vocal learning and mimicry, all modern birds that do it have very specialized brains

The last common ancestor between dromaeosaurs and birds was sometime in the Jurassic and almost all modern bird lineages evolved close to or after the KPG. Thats a lot of time for the avian lineage to diversify and specialize on a different track from raptor dinosaurs

this paper does a good job explaining the major leaps in the evolution of avian brains, the kind of development that's a prerequisite for vocal mimicry https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(20)30430-9

[fading lava]

The Wollemia Pine at my University. Love the addition of a whole Wollemia forest in the new map they are an incredibly rare tree today with a singular patch left wild in Australia

[ancient crystal]

The absolute worst animal to ever live

[true juniper]

I actually love heterodontosaurus
Heterodontosaurus = Hypsilophodon but angry

[winter marsh]

is this concrete or just a theory

[little mauve]

the original authors are preparing a defense

[ancient crystal]

A game theory?

[tawdry lintel]

Do we know how strong was Tylo's bite force ?

[hardy sentinel]

Tylosaurus (zooplankton for scale)

[misty relic]

WOOD STORK

[runic heart]

Nothing is concrete, but people are proposing a re-evaluation.

[charred hearth]

top 5 most accurate playables in PoT?

[hardy sentinel]

Tylosaurus, Latenivenatrix, Rhamph and some others

[runic heart]

Tyrannotitan up there?

[tough parcel]

Tylosaurus, TTT, and Styraco

[lavish frigate]

The abbreviation of Tyrannotitan looks like a three eyed man crying

after a lengthy legal battle against a large corporation for chemical caused illness after his water line was contaminated from them doing construction in the area. However he loses after it’s proven that he was just drinking bleach the whole time and he thought it was just bad wine.

[charred hearth]

top 5 LEAST accurate playables in PoT?

kai, thal, whos the 3 others?

[whole umbra]

Metri, pachy

[charred hearth]

is metri that bad?

[whole umbra]

Ehh im not sure tbh, but it definitely doesn’t look like its more known relatives (yang, sinraptor) and since metri is fragmentary they are the only dinos we can base it on.

Kai is prob the worst one, with pachy being the second worst. The rest are either outdated, need a tlc (like stego), or have some minor inaccuracies. I would say that hatz is kinda bad as well, its neck posture really brings it down.

Im just glad that the PoT devs have really improved their new models. I believe mira was the first model that really tried to be as accurate as possible and they have only gotten better w the recent TLCs. (Just wish the scales on rex’s face weren’t so big)

[jagged trellis]

meg over hatz but yeah

[whole umbra]

I really want a hatz remodel, nothing major just give it a better posture and fix the bendy arms. Also I hate how the neck goes into a 90 degree angle when u broadcast while flying, and how ridiculously wide its mouth opens. Hatz is not very good imo.

[heady silo]

I just noticed ramph hands are positioned backward. Is there evidence for this? A quick google search didn’t help me here, they are depicted forward in most renditions

[charred hearth]

now, whos worse

thal or kai

[whole umbra]

Yes that’s prob the only issue rhamp has

[whole umbra]

Kai

[tough parcel]

Most pterosaurs keep their hands folded backwards (as seen in trackways) but potential Rhamph prints show their hands faced forward like FREAKS
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/footprint-find-could-be-a-holy-grail-of-pterosaur-research/

[charred hearth]

what are the main flaws of kai compared to thal?

[heady silo]

Ty

[hazy basalt]

Mainly the face, PoT Kai has a very strange skull shape and Plesiosaurs didn’t have lips.

Another sin of PoT Kai is that it’s a large fish eater instead of a filter feeder. I have suspicions that this won’t be the case forever when the devs get around to adding Leeds and the fact that they confirmed that Kai will be getting another set of voice abilities (most likely being survival calls having to do with food)

[runic heart]

This pic has so much aura bro

[primal horizon]

meg love

[spice latch]

I just wish they made it chunkier like this

[tough parcel]

I hope not, that's ugly and unrealism

[charred hearth]

where exactly did hatz having a giant and thick neck come from?

[spice latch]

It’s ADORABLE and REALISM DONT MATTER

I have no clue @charred hearth

[tough parcel]

It matters when the animal has to fly 😭

[fossil ingot]

Yuh

[charred hearth]

PoT goes for realistic designs what are you on about?

[spice latch]

Ok but it’s a game it doesn’t have to rely on irl physics >.>

[fossil ingot]

Given POT has Recently went with very accurate Designs
As shown by Tylo and Titan
They may not go for Realism Gameplay
But they do Try Realistic Designs that give POT Vibes
Thats kinda the Point, have atleast accurate designs

[spice latch]

I just really want a chunky azdharchid like that

[fossil ingot]

Pls Zeus Give Hatz more Material

[ancient crystal]

I think this might be my single least favorite azdarchid reconstruction. Ever.

[spice latch]

That’s all we have…?

[outer tusk]

I don't get the chunky pterosaur hype

Because in order to fly you have to be the opposite of chunky

[spice latch]

I like it it’s funny

[ancient crystal]

Everyone wants everything to be chunky

[fossil ingot]

That WE KNOW its Hatz
Yeah, There is some Refered Material that give it the "chunky" argument
(It will be bulkier than most but not as Fat as some recons make it seem)

[charred hearth]

name 3 fat birds that fly

[outer tusk]

I hate that paleoart in particular it's not even a good speculative hatz design

It's just a hatz with a big thorat 😭

[tough parcel]

It doesn't but suspension of disbelief as well as "That physically can't exist"

Funnily enough, not the first time the artist has had a massively overexaggerated head/neck, but Erythrosuchus might be an exception in that it has poor references

[charred hearth]

oh...

[fossil ingot]

POT Literally had the Advice of a Mosasaur Paleontologist to help Make Tylo be Accurate for basicañly 99% of its Design
I think they won't make an unrealistic design

[spice latch]

Sooo would any azdharchid look chunky like that or are my dreams shattered

@charred hearth peacock, turkey, bustard

[charred hearth]

peacocks are only fat due to their large display feathers

[fossil ingot]

Yeah...

[spice latch]

Look at a peacocks body and tell me it ain’t fat

[tough parcel]

Dreams are shattered, there's no reason for an azhdarchid to ever reach anywhere near that level of thickness, regardless if it's just a throat pouch or actual fat

[fossil ingot]

Some Material that were previously refered to Hatz Indicate an Azcharchid Bulkier than the Average proportionally atleast
Now how Big it might be is Unknown and how Bulky it would be is Unknown aswell

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[runic heart]

It’s funny, after Miragaia got added to pot, the genus was both invalidated and then recently revalidated.

[ancient crystal]

Is it just me or does PhP: Ice Age feel like its pulling its punches a lot more than the previous seasons?

[outer tusk]

why is that?

[tough parcel]

It is, Naish said so himself

[ancient crystal]

Dang.

I knew something was up the second those baby bears didn't become lunch

[outer tusk]

Is there a paper for that

[runic heart]

Well yeah.

[tough parcel]

Effort! Search on Reddit yourself! (Marvel comp match, 1 sec)

[outer tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1207002759040077844/1451036696882974872/my_goat_via-tiktok_I_forgot_the_userjurassicpark_jurassicworld_tyrannosaurus_spinosaurus_.mov?ex=6944b6bb&is=6943653b&hm=bc2c18dfd1562e7b0757f3f42409c1be39cfa0c5e79071dcb0b67e988ac89b92&

[spice latch]

Pretty sure most of these are oversized, hate to burst your bubble but yknow mabye I’m wrong

[outer tusk]

none of these are oversized

[spice latch]

…the very first one

Did I get baited

[charred hearth]

all of those arent obese like the hatz you sent

[tough parcel]

@outer tusk

[outer tusk]

mhm

[queen vortex]

Two wrong statements💔

[compact leaf]

it felt like no real information was given on the animals to me, like compare to planet earth or even earlier seasons in the same format and you learn a lot more about the animal and environment (granted we know more about modern animals but still)

all that said, i liked giganto a lot

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-smiling-friends-smiling-friends-true-true-morgan-freeman-gif-14047516384242793704

[queen vortex]

He finally said “I understand”

I can finally rest

[charred hearth]

give y'alls thoughts on...gigantoraptor!

[zealous ravine]

WIP Xiongguanlong skel

[outer tusk]

it's giving 2019 Brick nostalgia

[queen vortex]

He looks so awesome sauce I would call him bobby

Gigantoraptor basically looks like a oviraptor but big

[queen vortex]

Never mind he literally called sarcosuchus a crocodile dinosaur and mosa a fish dinosaur

[hardy sentinel]

Mfs will say Nanuqsaurus and Hatzegopteryx are peak in the same sentence as Oxalaia being dog crap

[wind prairie]

Hatz gets a pass out of these 3 cause it's still seemingly unique

[hardy sentinel]

How?

[lavish frigate]

I can’t decide if I love or hate that he’s just a carbon copy of a small animal but scaled up to be taller than Tyrannosaurus

[charred hearth]

is gigantoraptor really just that?

[hardy sentinel]

it indeed really is just that

[charred hearth]

i mean, it could hgave a different crest?

[arctic crane]

About how big is concavenator?

[zealous ravine]

Ah yes, that skeletal that gives it too few dorsal verts lmao

[sharp jackal]

proabably pretty small for a carcharodontosaurid

[brave nova]

500-600kg

[arctic crane]

Thanks! Small by carcharodontosaur standards but still a decently sized animal

[sudden wind]

Skull shape, lips, large visible scales, flappy skin, body proportion

I really do hope Kaiwhekea gets a remodel in the way. Same for Thalassodromeus, Metri, Alio and Cera: they now don't fit into Path of Titans esthetics.

[sudden wind]

Wdym it wasn't an obese child (jk/ looks awesome!)

[plush fossil]

I hate the lipped Kai, it looks a lil strange
If they do remodel metri though I hope they keep the dewlap cuz I love it

[zealous ravine]

Ah yeah that skeletal. It's part of why I wanted to make this lmao. For some reason Batavo completely ignored the fact that the skull was super distorted and kept the shape roughly the same.

[light osprey]

Nanuqsaurus is probably the most unique out the bunch, just based on the depositional environment. Slightly robust Azhdarchid vertebrae are a dime a dozen

[tawdry lintel]

Could this be the most accurate Mosa design ? It's from Saurians

[queen vortex]

If concavenator was alive today and you encountered one, what would you honestly do?

[junior dawn]

nah, it has multiple issues cause they wouldnt listen to the advisors. Beyond that, its also outdated with stuff like unswept ribs. Its also basically a hybrid of tylo and mosa iirc

[opaque kayak]

I like how they didn't listen to advisors for mosa but wanted to remake t rex 50,000 times for accuracy

[fluid inlet]

Did y’all know they didn’t listen to advisors

[junior dawn]

🚨 🚨

[queen vortex]

Name a dinosaur that closely looks like indoraptor, can be herbivore, carnivore, ominivore whatever, I said closely looks like

[ionic linden]

maip macrothorax

[green helm]

guys dont you think henry looks like a purussaurus a little bit with its bulky jaw

[queen vortex]

He looks huggable

[granite thicket]

Old crocs get quite bulky with their snouts but purus skull is on another lvl

[fossil ingot]

Wide Mouth is another Contender for that

[compact leaf]

thal has a decent shot I think, but unfortunately I think metri cera and alio won’t get one (even if they are the oldest tlcs)

[compact leaf]

I meant purely model tlc

[lofty creek]

wish them add sinraptor and yang based metri sub instead of 2 fictional one

since pot metri is basically a outdated dan folkes sinraptor

[outer tusk]

So true although if it is based on Dan's older skeletal, I'll give it a slight pass

[gray goblet]

Is this an accurate megalania size? Or just a cool statue for a zoo or something?

[granite thicket]

biggest ones could prob get close to that size
but smaller on average

[slow shell]

Imagine how much food it can eat

[gray goblet]

They are so cool I really like monitors.

[jade laurel]

I imagine we'd both have no idea what to do.

[tough parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878030287676801054/896862740105265212/BetkNoCu.gif?ex=69451244&is=6943c0c4&hm=8ff057990e43066306431e161d5762c784cd16d039aed46608805bb49ab67df4&

[lofty creek]

its a 2019 one
not the later pics he drew

[gray goblet]

Thank you that's so cool!

[slow shell]

Question did tylo lay eggs!?

[tough parcel]

No, they gave live birth

[slow shell]

[last adder]

Ichthyosaurs, Mosasaurs, and Plesiosaurs all gave live birth.

[little fjord]

Do we have evidence for feathers on megalosaurids? I'm making a piece on torvosaurus and I was wondering if adding a thin layer of fluff might be plausible

[sudden wind]

Depends on the evolutionary scenario that you find the most likely, if either Coelurosaurs were to ones to innovate feathers, or if it was Theropoda, Dinosauria or Ornithodira.

[little mauve]

Sciurumimus and Juravenator may be megalosauroids and they have feathers

[stable sun]

Feathers pretty blatantly predate Coelurosaurs

[runic heart]

They are more likely coelurosaurs

[little mauve]

I wouldn't say anything with certainty wrt their taxonomy, just that it's plausible they are tetanurans which was the conclusion of Foth et. al. 2020

Not to mention Cau's take on the whole compsognathid situation

[stable sun]

Which I disagree with.

[little mauve]

That's fine, the point is that their placement is still controversial

[green helm]

what a cute car

[wind prairie]

chop its hump off and sell it as a platter

[spice latch]

Humans when they see a new animal:

[runic heart]

What are the most recent conclusions?

[little mauve]

Cau's are the most recently published, 2024

the last published phylogeny that recovered it as a coelurosaur was Hartman et. al. 2019

[runic heart]

Interesting

[runic heart]

Ok so supposedly newer research puts juravenator outside coelurosauria, closely related to sciurumimus. However, newer research also puts sciurumimus into or closely related to coelurosauria.

[tough parcel]

Evidence that young animals are not reliable?

[jagged trellis]

they'll lie for a rat formed head to play with as well

[zinc olive]

It would be cool to have live birth in the game

[tough parcel]

No clue what that means right now but after an hour or two of thinking, I'll probably understand

But it should be known that young (fossil) animals are hard to place in any area because depending on what you add as a trait for a specific tree, it might be a derived trait you'd find in the adult or a more basal trait you'd only find in the juveniles

[hardy sentinel]

They should give us a full on 5 minute animation of Tylo pushing a baby out

[jagged trellis]

just a joke on children lying for a toy
and also yes

[zinc olive]

I mean less graphic but yk

[jagged trellis]

just shoots out like a cannon

[zinc olive]

Nah just shoots it at a Rex and kills it😭

[jagged trellis]

double kill+assist just pops up

[runic heart]

Well I would assume we have at least 1 adult specimen of something similar, right?

[tough parcel]

You say that but Raptorrex, a tyrannosaur, is in the exact same position

[runic heart]

Mm, good point.

[outer tusk]

I don't think we have any adult dinosaur like that

[stiff osprey]

We don't have really young (<3 year old) specimens of 99% of theropod taxa is the issue. We likely have adult specimens of whatever Scipionyx and Juravenator are, but without having the baby of the same taxa, we don't know

[wintry sluice]

That is an impressive lack of material lmao

[little mauve]

Yeah their age really makes them unique but from a phylogenetic perspective really screws with results. I do find Cau's hypothesis intriguing, or some version of it

[charred hearth]

in real life, whos the fastest swimmer in PoT?

what mesozoic formation would riparia be closest too irl looks wise

[outer tusk]

Azhdarchids in a nutshell:

[wintry sluice]

Very true, the consequence of being built out of toothpicks

[runic heart]

Well what’s the most complete azdarchid we have?

[outer tusk]

idk like these 3 maybe a few more

[lofty furnace]

Hey, does anyone know any carnivore coastal lizard? I need It for reference

[stiff osprey]

Dallasaurus probably? or dolichosaurids

[lofty furnace]

This will definetly help, thank you

[charred hearth]

how much would saurian be changed if it was created today?

like besides nano, has hell creek and its residents really gone under many changes since 2016 - 2018(?)

[lofty furnace]

Quite a lot, they would have to come up with yet another growth system to T.rex, remove Dakotaraptor, maybe switch it for Nanotyrannus, I can't remember much more tho

[charred hearth]

1 - would rex really need to change THAT much?

2 - there still was a large dromeosaurid for hell creek so i could see it staying, maybe just under a custom name

[lofty furnace]

1- we have no idea, its growth cycle is now uncertain
2- maybe, but it could very well be completly different from what It is now

[charred hearth]

can we not look at tarbo and daspletosaurini?

[lofty furnace]

It's complicated, Tyranossaurus is the bodybuilder cousin even in the Tyranosaurini, Tarbo, for exemple, has a more narrow skull and body in general, and It is also uncertain about him since what we thought were his children could also be another dino (I'm not sure about this one tho, but i remember that there was a compsognathidae i think, that was associated with the Tarbosaurus genus) and the dasps are even more different, so although we can speculate somenthing, it's kinda risky to invest in it, specially considering Saurian devs lost most of their funding (Velocci made a video about It if you want to check out)

[charred hearth]

did any specimens stay as juvie rex's? ToT

[lofty furnace]

I think so, but they need to be reanalized first, and none of them were from what i remember

[compact leaf]

there is a few but they’re private or undescribed

[lofty furnace]

Which basically means they could be Nanos too if analized again

[charred hearth]

do we really hbave no described juvie rex's now?

[undone rapids]

Don't think so, teen rex is being worked on which should be similar in height to jane and dueler nanos. But no smaller juvis i think

[compact leaf]

I should say unpublished not necessarily undescribed

[queen vortex]

I keep explaining to this dude who claims that sarco and mosa are dinosaurs, I even got ai to exp,sin to him but he still doesn’t understand and keeps making the same statement “sarco= croc dino, mosa=fish dino” atp I just want to come over to his house and feed him to 100 hungry starving pterosaur

[winter marsh]

nothosaurus, pannoniasaurus

[winter marsh]

def ragebaiting, what the f is a crocodile dinosaur

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-angry-gon-bait-gif-5270896389597269350

[queen vortex]

EXACTLY

[lofty furnace]

Blud don't waste your time with ts, just block him and he is gone, It's not giving up, It's being rational, trust me

[queen vortex]

How do I block people on YouTube vro

[winter marsh]

actually, roast the living hell out of them fr fr

[tough parcel]

Flashbang

[lofty furnace]

Hold the notification button, there will be a "silence [username]" option, click it and It's over

[queen vortex]

called him a extinct hybrid of a mammal and a reptile made by dr Wu with a spine built like a barsboldia

[winter marsh]

spirit kitty

[queen vortex]

Thank you now I can feel peace

[ancient crystal]

Sarcosuchus = crocodile dinosaur
Mosasaurus= fish dinosaur
Blue whale = not marine mammal

You will never escape

[craggy trench]

Good ol LACM 23845 and 23844 are still safe
The others like Cuttle said are not published

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-animals-fist-bump-good-job-well-done-gif-16712819

[queen vortex]

Can yall give me ideas for my allosaurus oc

Some headcanons

[ancient crystal]

Make it have an identity crisis where it learns its actually a sauropod named saurophagnax

[charred hearth]

so would much change about saurian if it was made today?

[queen vortex]

It’s allo fragilis not anax

[spice latch]

Dam dude we said roast him not kill him

[ancient crystal]

Not include edmontosaurus and prevent this abomination from ever happening

[charred hearth]

wasnt that shant and zhu

[ancient crystal]

Whatever it is, I don't like it and without saurian edmonto it wouldn't have happened

[craggy trench]

It’s old concept art from Saurian not Shant or zhuch

[charred hearth]

what was the main thing holding saurian back?

[craggy trench]

Not really a paleo channel topic since that doesn’t involve the dinosaurs in it much at all

[charred hearth]

paleo accuracy wise

[granite thicket]

also, saurian devs kept on calling edmonto anatosaurus

[charred hearth]

wasnt it anatotitan?

[ancient crystal]

Their biggest mistake was endeavoring to constantly update their game models in accordance to the most recent science, huge waste of money.

Within that, I'll call their biggest mistake the lips on their rex model, alongside its excessive feathering at the time it looked like a bear.

[runic heart]

Anatotitan sounds cooler anyways

[tough parcel]

Anatotitan was used because (???)

[craggy trench]

I have the books let’s seeee what they say

[ancient crystal]

I feel like there's a pun to be had with the name Anatotitan but I can't come up with any

[compact leaf]

didn’t one of the devs think anatotitan should take priority or something?

[granite thicket]

they said anatosaurus should be a seperate genus because of diff temporal range

[charred hearth]

was it anatotitan or anatosaurus

[granite thicket]

btw is this posture for anky accurate?
I don't see any other media besides saurian making ankylosaurs walk like this

[craggy trench]

Both Anatosaurus and Anatotitan were named separately at some point in paleontology
If forgot when though
Both became edmonto however

[runic heart]

I feel like this makes more sense, right? Like there is a point to be made. Even if it’s the same genus, it’d be weird if it’s also the same species

[charred hearth]

how much of saurian holds up today?

[runic heart]

Well there was someone earlier who pointed out that their mosasaurus is way wrong.

[craggy trench]

Their mosa is generically fine
Someone posted concept art and asked about that

The actual model has a few outdated things but is a okay mosasaur overall

[granite thicket]

I heard the trunk is way too thick
cause the ribs aren't swept back

[runic heart]

Too chunky.

[charred hearth]

was quetz in the game? i forgot

[craggy trench]

We have so much Edmonto material and many studies and papers on them proving a connection between the two species so I would say it’s a bit odd to go for a long dead invalid genus

[granite thicket]

yes based on material that's infernodrakon now

[runic heart]

Different species then maybe

[charred hearth]

rate saurian quetz

[tough parcel]

While I would say this has merit

Edmontosaurus does not have many studies

[spice latch]

Well, it’s certainly a quetz

[compact leaf]

I mean look how long it took to take the crested edmonto out of regalis

[tough parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1276238300851474432/1377589015175495710/A58AEF3D-DEB9-40AF-92EF-BFD251CAE213.gif

[charred hearth]

secondary quetz from saurian

[hardy sentinel]

Technically not

Saurian Quetz is based on Q. Lawsoni iirc which is no longer a species of Quetz

[granite thicket]

and the material in hell creek is now infernodrakon

[spice latch]

Maybe it’s just me, but the wings seem a lil short? Like the overall size seems too small, and the first 2 arm segments seem a lil short

[tough parcel]

It's not 😭 it was made years before Q. lawsoni was described

As 0523 said, it's based on material now referred to Infernodrakon

[hardy sentinel]

It was labeled as Q. sp in the game book, which was later assigned to Q. Lawsoni

[craggy trench]

lawsoni is still in Quetz anyways isn’t it?

[granite thicket]

the material which allows it to appear in game is now infernodrakon but the design is based on lawsoni to be precise

[compact leaf]

Q. lawsoni still exists that particular material just got split out

[spice latch]

I’m no azdarchid expert mind you, but it just feels… off

[tough parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-for-now-mask-gif-10084566

[granite thicket]

possibly not
the new paper puts it a bit distant from northropi
hell thanatosdrakon is closer to northropi than lawsoni is to it

[spice latch]

7/10 is my final score

[craggy trench]

Well new papers can propose a lot of things
Some stick some don’t
But currently he’s still Quetz so I’ll just give him pats for that

[tough parcel]

There was a breakdown on how Saurian's Quetz and Mosa were great on a visual level but anatomically/accuracy, they just kinda...were bleh

Unfortunately, it was from two different people over 5 years ago so like I ain't digging for that

[hardy sentinel]

Nanoquetzalcoatlus

[charred hearth]

thoughts on a saurian like game set on hateg?

[spice latch]

I have no clue what saurian is personally

[granite thicket]

jsut make a horror game where you're zalmoxes getting stalked by flock of hatz lol

[hardy sentinel]

Dinosaur survival game but single player

[charred hearth]

dinosaur survival game but too accurate for its own good

[spice latch]

Ohhh it’s that one

Thought it stopped development ngl

[hardy sentinel]

Saurian woulda lived if the Rex feather debate didn't hit at the time

And then it would died as of last month when Edmontosaurus got an update

[runic heart]

Nice, people still using my gif.

[charred hearth]

what was y'alls thoughts on juvie dakota gliding? what was the evidence of that ?

[hardy sentinel]

It's prolly based on the fringe theory that Velociraptor could glide because it had quill knobs in it's bones

[spice latch]

Well I don’t think it could have, and also isn’t Dakota invalid?

[charred hearth]

this isnt about dakota's validity, its about raptors of its ado size gliding and the evidence behind that

[granite thicket]

if I'm not wrong there are some parts that are def dromeosaur, but they're so fragmentary so we'll never know

[spice latch]

Thought it was based on accuracy which would include if the species or genus is valid

Y’all type too fast this timer is killing me

[tough parcel]

It's based on Deinonychus and WAIR

[hardy sentinel]

Pardon

[charred hearth]

like, juvie deinons could glide?

[granite thicket]

yes that was the theory

[tough parcel]

I'm gogging it, one sec

[hardy sentinel]

Gliding non microraptorian dromaeosaurids, how I miss you

[charred hearth]

does the theory still hold water today?

[spice latch]

Make sure to check your sources

[tough parcel]

Gogmazios

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-gif-12132376810128560925

[granite thicket]

I think it might be from naish's paper from 2000 idk

[hardy sentinel]

Ion think gliding Deinonychus holds water still, unfortunately

[lavish frigate]

Of course it doesn’t, that’s why dinosaurs always had to drink water they found, they couldn’t hold it because they didn’t have cups

Especially while gliding

[hardy sentinel]

Well, a living Deinonychus would hold water considering a lot of animals have water in them

[spice latch]

Ok but they dead

[lavish frigate]

I suppose, but I mean hold in the voluntary sense like holding an object, not in the passive sense like how you technically hold your organs in you

[spice latch]

They can’t even hold their organs, they just bones now

[tough parcel]

It was based on hypotheticals not real fossil evidence tmk

Basically WAIR is wing-assisted incline running which proposes that birds started from terrestrial theropods that used their wings to quickly ascend trees with a flapping motion (I believe we see this in a few ground-leaning birds today)

Since dromaeosaurs are closer to birds than most and the young were probably pretty light, having wings to run up a tree away from a marauding predator makes sense. Saurian/whoever they loaned the idea from suggested they went a step further and allowed limited gliding

[hardy sentinel]

I thought it was based on the gliding Velociraptor theory, mb

[tough parcel]

No, that's from a genuinely horrible person whose ideas have never made it to pop culture thankfully

[charred hearth]

what were some of their ideas?

[tough parcel]

Uhhh gliding volaticotheres and ornithomimosaurs/raptors

[compact leaf]

WAIR is something we see in a lot of game birds yeah

[granite thicket]

I thought volaticotherium did glide

[hardy sentinel]

Are we talking about Jack Horner or someone less insane

[tough parcel]

It was either that or full-powered flight, I don't fully recall

[granite thicket]

doesn't look like its built for powered flight
although I heard its back leg has unique adaptatiosn for handling flight stress

[tough parcel]

Well yea, as I said, none of his ideas were accepted lol

@hardy sentinel significantly different person and arguably more insane

[granite thicket]

david peters?

[hardy sentinel]

Paul Sereno?

[compact leaf]

Paul Sereno is nowhere near as insane as that what

[tough parcel]

Fortunately, both of these people still have accepted ideas thus do not fit the bill!

Their name was Carlos something because I never cared to learn their full name

[stiff osprey]

Carlos is volaticotheres could fly

[tough parcel]

Ok so it was powered flight, ty ty

[stiff osprey]

he also thought Velociraptor could fly at some point. Really likes things flying he does

[hardy sentinel]

We don't know why, we don't know who.... But his name was Carlos

[runic heart]

Nah he’s the guy who’s about to rewrite spinosaurines

[granite thicket]

sereno's ideas can be sometimes weird or radical
but at least his theories aren't ridiculous

[charred hearth]

is it true these horses are just lightly jogging away the bear while it runs full speed https://x.com/NatureUnedited/status/2001438556405875092

Nature Unedited (@NatureUnedited)

Footage of a brown bear chasing after and attempting to hunt wild horses 🐻🐴

X · Dec 17, 2025, 11:45 PM

[winter marsh]

ornithomimosaurs is bs, dromeosaurs I can see the smaller ones doing, especially if they lived in large forests, which uhhh wasnt the case for Velociraptor

[winter marsh]

probably, horses arent going top speed because yk, a lot of stamina and theyd just become tired and die, and because the terrain is kinda messy and full of trees. Although they are sprinting, just not at lightspeed like they would do against a pack of wolves

[wooden bluff]

is saltasaurus the only option to make a titanomachya skeletal?

[true lotus]

Non informed dinosaur lover here. Can anyone here tell me if spinos walked on all fours, two legs, or both? I was just thinking about how it would be cool if they got the same movement as bars who can switch between the two and it got me curious.

[charred hearth]

two legs

[stiff osprey]

We aren't sure but two legs is by far the most likely, it's doubtful the hands could support weight

[true lotus]

Aw man. I was hoping for four lol. In my mind it's more cute. Thank you guys for the confirmation!

[charred hearth]

does anyone have a accurate depiction of what leed will probably look like in PoT? ( seeing how their going for realism with a bit of stylization )

[thorn grove]

Recently looked more into Magnapaulia's potential giant humerus, it does seem to be real but I think the stated length of 950 mm is exaggerated. This paper (https://www.jstor.org/stable/1303039?seq=1) states LACM 17715 at 690 mm while Prieto-Marquez et al. 2012 only states it as 600 mm, so I believe both the 690 mm number for LACM 17715 and the 950 mm number for LACM 26757 may be along the curves rather than the straight line lengths given in the 2012 paper, which I imagine reduces the estimated size of this individual quite a bit

[stiff osprey]

scaling down the larger humerus with a rule of 3 gives ~830 mm, which is the same size as the largest Magnapaulia humerus in Prieto-Marquez 2012

[charred hearth]

put this in caveman speak

[thorn grove]

that one is 803 mm 🤓

you might be thinking Hypsibema's which is 830 mm

[ancient crystal]

Ah paleontology and giant overstated humeri, they go together like peanut butter and jelly

[stiff osprey]

big paul slightly less big than previously thought

oh well, the 830mm one is still the largest magnapaulia then. not surprising it does look massive

[thorn grove]

If you scale from the size given for LACM 17712 on this chart LACM 26757 comes to 12.55 meters and 11,079 kg so big paul is still pretty big

[stiff osprey]

largest lambeosaurine title maintained

[lavish quest]

rises
Can confirm. They're at a canter whereas the bear is going pretty fast.
But likely what the bear's doing here isn't actually trying to catch any of them, it's trying to see if any will lag behind or stumble. + This may also be the aftermath of a failed ambush

[charred hearth]

so it could juist be testing to see whos weak / vunerable?

[wind prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/tadc-the-amazing-digital-circus-fish-tadc-fish-tadc-episode-7-gif-6145373038616620267

[scenic flame]

@keen forum hey man rq do you have you got the things about the tylo specimens that had severely injured rostrums from ramming shiz?

[hazy basalt]

Bruh how did we go from the concept art on the right to the ugly final model on the left??? Is Kai just a victim of the then latest trends in paleo art?

[queen vortex]

What dinosaur do you think leopard seals look like

[elfin pulsar]

Bombastic side eye

[keen forum]

I wanna say it was the black knight it might have been from biting as well

[hardy sentinel]

Ekrixinatosaurus

[queen vortex]

Is the statement I made correct

[outer tusk]

yes not to mention unlike great white shark they can't just straight up killing the seals by biting 100% as they're teeth are more so for raking rather than shredding

[pure plinth]

I hate learning about tylosaurus... I love the prehistoric creature but the contents are new to me

[stable sun]

26757 = 17707. It's the specimen specimen. And it's in the list.

[runic heart]

But why?

[pure plinth]

You'd not want to know

The cololites are mostly fish and marine reptiles

[sudden wind]

I mean, cololites are quite interesting tbf

[runic rover]

Tylo is basically mosa

[runic heart]

Thinner and faster. Possibly bigger as well.

[pure plinth]

That was the majority of it

And yeah it is interesting

[sudden wind]

They are Mosasaurids but that's it: their size is acquired through convergence (same for their aquatic adaptations iirc) and I think both didn't live in the same habitats, though it is species dependant. Mosasaurus were offshore predators while Tylosaurus were more polyvalent. The tooth morphology could possibly differ, which could indicate different preferences but I don't have literature backing this up. Hainosaurus (=Tylosaurus?) teeth on the left and Mosasaurus teeth on the right.

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/principal-skinner-yes-seymour-skinner-the-simpsons-enthusiastic-yes-gif-15806751

[drowsy venture]

Could Hesperornis have the same similar uh "fluffy" neck just like the penguin?

Like hesp could have more feathers covering its long neck like a penguin.

[ancient crystal]

None because they are a mammal

[queen vortex]

LOOK like

[runic heart]

Probably not, seeing as it’s anatomy is similar to a loon.

[native kindle]

..none, because no dinosaur resembles mammals

[queen vortex]

Look at it and tell me it doesn’t look like a dinosaur

[ancient crystal]

It doesn't look like a dinosaur

[runic heart]

https://tenor.com/view/my-mom-is-kinda-homeless-ishowspeed-speeding-please-speed-i-need-this-ishowspeed-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-16620227105127147208

[burnt nacelle]

please speed i need this my moma is kinda homeless

[runic heart]

Reposting the hellcreek freshwater boy cause aura

[queen vortex]

Does he like belly scratches

[runic heart]

He wants your arm bro

[queen vortex]

I do NOT want to end up like Brooklyn

[lavish frigate]

I would so end up like Brooklyn to teach that thing to like belly rubs

He need scritches and loving

[queen vortex]

What does down fin on orcas mean

[sudden wind]

Probably not because they didn't live in cold waters.

[sudden wind]

Orcas' dorsal fin could possibly collapse due to lack of activity. These are soft tissues structures that are quite heavy so they could fall on the side of the animal as it doesn't regularly swim at their cruising speed or deep enough.

[small geyser]

Dorsal fin collapse is also more common in male orcas too due to how tall it is compared the the dorsal fin in the females.

[umbral socket]

From my knowledge, orcas dorsal fins flop due to not eating their usual diet or spending too much time at the surface (the surface pressure affects their fins) :3

[ancient crystal]

Its a sign of depression and poor health only ever seen in captive orcas

[true juniper]

If sauropods Had bird like breathing does that mean they can move for longer

[plush fossil]

You should probably ask this on google

[charred hearth]

thoughts? https://x.com/Biharanire/status/2001547179048018425?t=sl_0V5UgErhO4748OIFejQ&s=33

Sir. Ntukabyifuze (@Biharanire)

This is Nzou, a 60-year-old elephant who has become the matriarch of a buffalo herd in Zimbabwe, leading them for over 40 years after being orphaned and raised alongside them 🐘🐃🐃

For real you can't hate Elephants 🥰❤️🐘

X · Dec 18, 2025, 6:56 AM

[true juniper]

I remember that video of an Asian elephant stomping a goat

[charred hearth]

oh...

[true juniper]

I mean cmaaahn every animal has a dark side they're animals

They're still very majestic and beautiful animals....just let them be majestic and beautiful away from me

[charred hearth]

i dont see why you had to say that though

[last adder]

Entirely random and unrelated

[spice latch]

Yea every herbivore would gut you without a second thought, and they are more likely to then carnivores are

[tough parcel]

I love unironic musthposting 😭

[charred hearth]

we just lying to lie

[spice latch]

Ok maybe not EVERY herbivore to ever live

But a dam big majority

[charred hearth]

majority would choose to flee

[tough parcel]

Can you prove it's a majority?

[spice latch]

Gimme a sec lemme dig it up…

[charred hearth]

seconds gonna turn into years...

[umbral socket]

I’m sorry, but that is wrong. It’s been proven that Depression has nothing to do with it, and there are wild Orcas with flopped dorsal fins

[charred hearth]

so why are they floppy?

[umbral socket]

Either from not eating their usual diet or spending too much time at the surface (where the surface pressure pushes the fin). It is extremely common in Captivity, yes, but it does occur in the wild :)

[charred hearth]

ooh okay, that makes more sense then what i thought, i thought it was jsut due to being out of water and not being held up in it

[ancient crystal]

Well thank you for the updated information, last I heard it was only ever observed in captivity

[outer tusk]

Please tell me it wasn't in your dreams?

[runic heart]

Tread feet, efficient breathing. Yeah, they were definitely trekkers.

[runic rover]

Captivity. Probably the poor conditions of life in aquarium that stresses them.

[lavish frigate]

Words cannot describe how uncomfortable the term “musthposting” is

[thorn grove]

I'm not sure how you can conclude that, the specimen is no longer available for comparison.

"Notably, Morris [25] reported an incomplete lambeosaurine humerus, LACM 26757, from the El Gallo Formation. The proximal end of this humerus was restored and its total length was estimated in 950 mm [25]. We have not been able to locate this humerus in the collections of the LACM nor the IGM, and the bone may or may not belong to M. laticaudus."

This is from the same paper that describes LACM 17707.

[ancient crystal]

Meh, herbivores are actually carnivores are actually herbivores conversations are my favorite

[spice latch]

Couldn’t find it source is trust me bro

[charred hearth]

thats because uyour wrong

[spice latch]

Nah I know I saw it somewhere

Trust me bro

[charred hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/agathasbike-chloefrqzer-gif-27058171

[spice latch]

Violence is never the answer

Trust me bro

[stable sun]

Yeah because its specimen number literally changed from 26757 to 17707

There was an investigation around it, 17707 conviently appeared soon after 26757 disappeared etc

[charred hearth]

violence to end violence - riven from league of legends

[spice latch]

…league of legends?
In my DINOSAUR CHAT???
I’ve lost hope

[proven dagger]

Guys who was actually the last carcharodontosaurid member?

[tulip dove]

You don't get it vro
Carnivores don't mess with the bull musth herbivore...

[undone rapids]

Mapu or Chilantaisaurus

[thorn grove]

when did this happen?

[spice latch]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-smart-gif-16536398705701482405

[sudden wind]

It is not

[ancient crystal]

This was already pointed out to me

[spice latch]

I uh

Can’t read that

[spice latch]

Omg magnapaulia

[thorn grove]

yup

turns out he maxes out at like 10 tons which is basically what I already thought but now I don't even have to think about the 95 cm humerus as a caveat

[spice latch]

Daaang

[hallow spear]

the 10t magna is already scaled to this humerus lol

[thorn grove]

yea ik that's what I'm saying

people used to use the 950 mm length from the old paper to scale a 15+ ton Magna not realizing it was the same as the humerus they were scaling it up from lol

[long spruce]

Guys what's the scariest / biggest snake just tell me I can disprove you

[stable sun]

Titanoboa and Vasuki are the biggest

[ancient crystal]

The common garter snake

[stiff osprey]

I'm imagining the scene in Welcome to Derry where Pennywise gets slapped but it's a Titanoboa tweaking and being slapped by a random garter

[ancient crystal]

I had a garter snake named laundry, it bit me once, most harrowing experience of my life

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-gentleman-hatehat-cute-tongue-gif-12731748

[long spruce]

how do you know vasuki amazing!

[stiff osprey]

discord servers are incredibly fast at getting paleo news

i'll see something show up in here and then it takes like 2 weeks for it to show up on the news (if it ever does)

[hardy sentinel]

The second the Nanotyrannus paper came out I saw it in here and PK about 5 times in the same minute

90% sure some people have bots that look over the Internet for new paleo news

[runic heart]

I just happen to see surviving earth clips not even a minute after they are first posted. Idk how that happens.

[quick lintel]

Or they could be on reddit
Nobody moves faster than redditors
I was online looking at sims 4 builds scrolling thru my shi when I found out former president Joe Biden was diagnosed. And that was literally minutes after it was announced

[tough parcel]

No, Reddit sucks for paleontology

[quick lintel]

Reddit sucks for everything except sims 4 builds in my experience. But yeah from the few times I've tried to peek into paleontology subs, I find they're either the best funnyposts or like the same few questions and papers regurgitated every day. But I've seen them clamoring over, for lack of a better word, new releases LMAO. Nanotyrannus was all over my stuff when it dropped for reel...

[jagged trellis]

you see the beauty of nature needs modding guys typa shih sadly

[quick lintel]

Oh yea that too. If I had a nickel for every "what if we did what the premise of jurassic park did, but even more offensive against god" post, I'd be genuinely rich enough to rewrite that franchise in its entirety and remake full length films, but better.

[fluid inlet]

How the paleontologist nerds liking path Tylosaurus ? Pretty accurate?

[charred hearth]

could they do this?

[fossil ingot]

Given a scan screw member that works on mosasaurs was the main consultor for the design
Its pretty accurate and pretty much best Tylo Design atm

[tough parcel]

I don't think any snake really does this 😭

[jagged trellis]

tbf some snakes do inflate, not just hoods so not as crazy
i do not remember if like a oval like that or

[tough parcel]

TMK it's like the whole body

[jagged trellis]

some can control it, stuck for abit so will try and find a reliable source but eyewitness wise i know for a fact eastern hognoses can

[little mauve]

Nundu's art generally ranges from the highly speculative to the absurd, that's their style I'm not knocking it, so accuracy shouldn't really be taken as a given for any of it

[runic heart]

No.

[charred hearth]

Can goats really do this or is it aihttps://x.com/Cait_Sith_co/status/2001527021198012924

椎井蹴人 (@Cait_Sith_co)

これがどうかもうわからんのだけど、こういう驚くべき映像を見た時に「どうせAIだろ」と思ってしまうのはちと残念だな

X · Dec 18, 2025, 5:36 AM

[plucky basin]

its obviously ai and i doubt goats can actually do such things, they can still do some really impressive stuff tho

[stiff osprey]

goats can move quickly in that kind of terrain but this is ai, in the thumbnail the forward goat has two heads

[charred hearth]

oh your right

[fluid inlet]

shut it.

[granite thicket]

Im sure even the biggest pythons irl cant rear up like that

[zealous ravine]

It’s ai but goats can absolutely do that

[crystal pivot]

How do they not fall

[granite thicket]

Theyre just built different

[crystal pivot]

Do they get attacked by eagles?

[granite thicket]

Golden eagles occasinally hunt goats

[crystal pivot]

Okay

[coarse thorn]

T rex skeleton

[zealous ravine]

Specialized hooves mainly

[charred hearth]

thoughts on a Unenlagiinae that lives in hell creek?

we apparently have some evidence for it, enough to somehow possibly put dakotaraptor as one

[hazy basalt]

Thanks for reminding me to watch this again, amazing behaviour.

https://youtu.be/M_hfBUOzbLg?si=om4MFuC9CNdh4KQ_

[charred hearth]

i dont wanna see a animal falling to its death, not tonight

[zealous ravine]

Some abstracts mention unenlagiine material, and the idea has been floating around for a while, but nothing concrete yet. I’d say it’s def possible tho

[charred hearth]

if im correct, we currently have 0 named /described unenlagiinae's from NA right?

archeraptor has so much potential to have so many friends thats arent chimeric recreations

[queen vortex]

What are y’all’s favourite modern dinosaurs

[stiff osprey]

Crested caracara the GOAT

[queen vortex]

Mine’s takahe bird

[stiff osprey]

Orb

[queen vortex]

Round is where the love is stored

[craggy trench]

My top two, which I can’t choose one over the other, is the Northern Cardinal and Peregrine Falcon
(Two very different choices I know)

[granite thicket]

Osprey for the W

[warm saddle]

Leptoptilos/maarbou stork

[elfin pulsar]

Probably barn owls

[snow python]

Is it true that the two liliensternus specimens at 5m aren't fully grown?

[plucky basin]

mine 🥺

[tiny lion]

So nanotyr annus. Is. Now valid

Were tyrannos arms were impractical?

[lofty creek]

2024 svp abstract mentioned a 7-9 metre lilien but no more information till now

[analog mirage]

Probably yea, the little arms would serve minor roles

[stable sun]

i have measumerents of it it's like 7 meters

[lofty creek]

picture?

[crystal pivot]

Is the road runner technically a modern dinosaur

[last adder]

All birds are so yes

[queen vortex]

Yes

[runic heart]

I’d like to open a discussion rn: which prehistoric planet designs from seasons 1 and 2 still hold up today? Oh and I guess season 3 as well.

[stable sun]

picture of what

[stiff osprey]

Velociraptor, Tarbosaurus, female Dreadnoughtus, most of the hadrosaurs, Triceratops, Anodontosaurus, Tuarangisaurus, Beelzebufo, Rapetosaurus, Tethyshadros, Hatzegopteryx, Simosuchus, Nemegtosaurus, Prenocephale, i don't remember what else was in it

[lofty creek]

i mean what measurement
u got the photo of the material and measure it or theres a leak of the svp report and they gave a measurement in it?

[patent mountain]

Should we even count beelzebufo as a dinosaur lowk

[stiff osprey]

Well no a lot of those aren't dinosaurs

But he said prehistoric planet designs, not dinosaurs

[patent mountain]

Just a fat chunky frog that liked to eat small dinosaurs and baby ones

[stiff osprey]

ok by a lot i mean 4 but still

[runic heart]

from what I’ve heard the mosasaurs are all too chunky and whale-looking

[stiff osprey]

It's not that bad but yeah the Mosasaurus has an overly deep chest

[runic heart]

Is that due to the kind of rib construction they used.

[stiff osprey]

I don't think so, iirc they showed the skeletal reconstruction and it has correctly swept ribs. Just too big compared to newer recons

[runic heart]

So what’s the most up-to-date mosasaurus reconstruction?

[green helm]

its time to jolly up guys

[fossil ingot]

None
I was gonna say POT Tylo cause it is a Mosasaur, just not Mosasaurus itself lol

But I guess this works?

[ancient crystal]

I won't lie, I kinda hate it

[green helm]

is it the design of how it looks?

[runic heart]

There is a fatter species variant for the tylo, kinda reminds me of prognathodon in terms of skull shape. Wondering if that’s an up-to-date depiction of prognathodon.

[outer tusk]

oh yeah there is

[ancient crystal]

It just looks so sad, I feel like I should pity it

[compact leaf]

another star lost to unrealistic beauty standards

[undone rapids]

https://youtu.be/Kye28-iEHpo

[ashen wedge]

But it’s the duck….

[hardy sentinel]

I don't wanna be the person to tell you this but the antler kinda looks like a part bending backwards

[charred hearth]

2011's prehestoric planet...

how well do youj guys think the series holds up today?

[runic heart]

I mean, it still has some of the best color and pattern designs for the depicted species. I can’t imagine Spinosaurus not having the planet dinosaur patterning, same with carchar.

[burnt hare]

https://youtube.com/shorts/8jGcskJXEtk?si=_7mpNcvyaPusP4tO

[charred hearth]

i've seen so many people hate on it and i just dont know why

[runic heart]

Me neither. It’s a format of paleo doc that should be used again. Using cgi visuals to explain stuff helps more than having paleontologists “dig up” a freshly prepared bone.

[tribal wolf]

https://youtu.be/OmEudE9NLoc?si=mhOHGH8U9U9__vgx

[spice latch]

If this is nanotyrannous he’s a lil late…

It is

[charred hearth]

is tylo the only animal they contacted a speclaist for when designing it?

[runic heart]

Probably not, the Tyrannotitan is too good.

[charred hearth]

do you guys think they'll talk to a specalist about lizards or more spefically a komado dragon specalist for meg's tlc?

[cursive musk]

obligatory mention of the day regaurding anchiornis and microraptor being ky favorite dinosaurs 👍

[charred hearth]

a triceratops being a leader of a herd of pachy's...https://x.com/re_rank/status/2002203089323855945

SAVE THE MEGAFAUNA (@re_rank)

What the post leaves out, is that since buffalos have a patriarchal social structure, Nzou has apparently killed 14 young male buffalos that challenged her for control of the herd.

An interesting story, however, and one that’s a testament to elephant intelligence. What’s more….

X · Dec 20, 2025, 2:23 AM

[tribal wolf]

new papers got released which also describes N. lethaeus, which was bigger than the other nanotyrannidae

[warped peak]

Imagine that you have to fight an actual elephant to become the leader

[charred hearth]

i mean, she apparently is a really good leader so

i wonder, what will happen with the herd once she eventually passes? she's been leading them for over 40 years

[runic heart]

Honestly, path of titans should have all its older creatures remodeled. The newer creatures like Tyrannotitan and tylosaurus just look so good and kind of leave the rest in the dust.

[charred hearth]

can you name all the creatures that you think NEED a remodel? not like want, but actively need one?

[granite thicket]

Pachy needs one badly
Same with cera and duck
Albertaceratops possibly too
Hatz just needs slight tweaks
Stego and allo

[ionic crescent]

All but Hatzeg honestly

[burnt hare]

https://youtu.be/nWuWubzSLJw?si=nLQnF2Zdch49WycX

[umbral socket]

Personally, I think Thal needs a remodel as well

[granite thicket]

I think thal's model is ok
The animations are mainly weird on it
I forgot about kai
REMODEL THAT THING NOW
Even jurassic world the game's kai looks more accurate lol

[umbral socket]

I feel like its flying is a bit janky which might be why I think it needs a remodel

[charred hearth]

whats wrong with alberta, cerato and duck?

[umbral socket]

Idk about them but I've never really liked Duck's model

Something about it puts me off but I can't put my finger on it

[charred hearth]

i mean, duck ( accuracy wise ) is the best out of it, the isles and jwe2/3 so

[umbral socket]

I don't think my dislike towards it has anything to do with accuracy 😭

[charred hearth]

is it the flat feathers

[warped peak]

Deinocheirus is somewhat accurate but the textures are terrible these days

[umbral socket]

Possibly? As I said, I can't put my finger on what exactly I dislike about it 😭

It easily could just be a preference thing on design

[charred hearth]

imagine PoT deinocherius with the quality of jwe deinocherius

[umbral socket]

It definitely looks a lot more visually pleasing

[charred hearth]

im trying to think, does any feathering on the PoT models look realistic / pleasing to look at ?

[runic heart]

Like all of the old ones. Hatz needs some tweaks, Kai unfortunately needs heavy tweaking, most need completely new textures and so on.

[charred hearth]

isnt hatz posture off/inaccurate?

[full lagoon]

It's too curvy and not ridgid enough yeah

[runic heart]

Horrendous neck, yeah.

[umbral socket]

On the Official dinos? I don't think so
-# I can only think of Struthi and Duck

[charred hearth]

where exactly does hatz having a extremely thick head / neck come from?

[full lagoon]

I think struthi's feathers look pretty nice, atleast in comparison

[umbral socket]

Struthi definitely looks better in comparison imo

[charred hearth]

would either of these be able to fly

[full lagoon]

It actually is reminiscent of animals like emus

[charred hearth]

is its head not too fat to fly

[warped peak]

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