paleontology

[steady rock]

do we know when echolocation devolped in whales? like, did basilosaurus have it? did livy have it? ik the baleen whales probably didnt have it

[wraith kindle]

True, cicadas are just what immediately came to mind.

[steady rock]

do whale fossils even show if they had echolocation or not? i dont remember if theres like, a structure for that or not

[hallow spear]

they could not because they are still graviportal

[potent bobcat]

Not sure what that means, but I got the point. Bebe titans are not fast

[hallow spear]

they have the same limitations as elephants, basically. So they run the same in each growth stage with no airtime

[ancient crystal]

Their bodies are inherently designed to support a massive amount of weight so they can only move as if bearing such weight, even when very small.

[tawdry summit]

Design, absolutely. Balancing with the rest of the roster? Questionable

[steady rock]

is this still like, a accepted hunting strategy for a terror bird? ( wait for gif )

[steady rock]

https://tenor.com/view/terror-bird-pecking-fight-chase-gif-17304230

[sudden wind]

No, I don't even get why was this ever suggested as no bird of prey hunts like that.

[tough parcel]

If you watched the documentary, you would know!

[steady rock]

well its not ur average bird of prey now is it?

but yeah, is it still a accurate depiction of them hunting/what we think they hunted like?

[sudden wind]

No predatory bird uses its beak as such.

[steady rock]

okay but the only predatory bird remotely similar to the terror bird we have today is the secretary bird and that stomps its prey out

[wraith kindle]

Could have sworn there’s one that uses it to stun? Not sure what I’m remembering tbh.

[tough parcel]

The doc itself goes over the reason why they believe this (I think comparison to an axe popped up) but using modern birds is kinda flimsy when phorusrachids have kinda nutty beak sizes compared to modern birds

[steady rock]

the axe comparison reminds me of planet dinosaurs allosaurus hunting

[tough parcel]

I believe the doc mentions stunning large prey as a consequence of smashing its beak tip into the spinal column of the prey animal, but there's no "one" that uses it specifically like that

[steady rock]

would it stun the prey and then eat it alive while its paralyzied and unable to do anything?

[wraith kindle]

Tarantula Wasps.

[tough parcel]

Probably not the aim lol, it's kinda silly tryna pinpoint strike your opponent's spine when they're sprinting and/or fighting back

[steady rock]

your friend cubic wishes to play path of titans with you btw

he tried telling you in backer but your not one so you cant see it 😔

[steady rock]

im trying to think of ways a teror bird would hunt that wouldnt involve pecking to death, kicking maybe?

[tough parcel]

Consuming small prey whole

But fr, pecking to death =/= paralyzing

I feel a good strike to the head would do it

[steady rock]

so overall the hunting strategy of a terror bird would probably be running down its prey and peck it to death or atleast to a weakened state where it can start eating it?

[sudden wind]

Not even. Secretary birds have a different hunting style than what is suggested with Phorusrhacids, which would be about biting and gripping onto your prey.

I still don't expect a bird with such beak shape to use it as if it was a pickaxe. Such beak structure is used to puncture and finish off a prey, sort of like how cats' canines are.

Also, iirc there is one paper that has shown that the animal's tip of the beak isn't strong enough to endure such stress so there is that to add.

[steady rock]

so what would its hunting style be like? im kinda slow :(

[warped peak]

Probably using their sickle claw to help restrain for one

[wraith kindle]

For large ones, biting it and tripping it up? I dunno

@warped peak Huh, they have a dromaeosaur-like sickle claw?

[steady rock]

what even is a terror birds bite force

[warped peak]

Yep

[wind prairie]

I think terror birds just bit and kicked their prey (hooked beak and sickle claws)
you guys are overcomplicating this

[fluid inlet]

Terror birds were scavengers like T. rex

[wraith kindle]

Looking at Wikipedia, yea, looks like some of them did. The wiki page does offer a similar strategy with using the beak like a hammer.

[warped peak]

Kelenken Clearly was a Scavenger while the mighty Argentavis hunted Megatherium

[broken shale]

Dein is a pterosaur right?

[warped peak]

Which Dein

[wraith kindle]

No, it’s a bacterium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinococcus_radiodurans

[broken shale]

ok thanks frien

[wind prairie]

do we think prestosuchids, rauisuchids, or poposauroids used their limbs in prey restraint

[steady rock]

words too complicated

[fluid inlet]

How do Nematodes hunt

[steady rock]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-nematode-loveyou-gif-15520225

[fluid inlet]

My favorite apex predator , a real apex predator.

[wraith kindle]

Probably not?

[fluid inlet]

https://mbpinc.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Pathogenic-Bacteria.png

[sudden wind]

They mostly are parasitic or detrivorous, so they don't hunt

[wraith kindle]

I was making a joke with that bacteria cause ‘dein’ didn’t come up with anything. Come on guys.

[tough parcel]

I don't think you came up at all 💀

[wind prairie]

triassic pseudosuchians are epic ❤️

[fluid inlet]

Not specifically nematodes but there are many other microorganisms that do hunt.

https://youtu.be/sq6Y54mxjOg

[winter marsh]

imagine big dinosaur with bazooka yes

[warped peak]

Posto has a hooked claw on the forelimbs so probably

[tough parcel]

Can you show this hooked claw?

[tough parcel]

Akin to the Baryonyx...?

[steady rock]

https://tenor.com/view/baryonyx-fish-dinosaur-eating-swallowing-gif-11995199704639980695

i feel like, spinosaurids could survive modern day due to them being ( mainly ) piscivores

[warped peak]

In the Amazon or somewhere with big feesh probably

[steady rock]

true, i mean like, do you think any could be marine?

[warped peak]

Spinosaurus itself maybe lol

[steady rock]

do you think spinosaurus is survivng in the Mediterranean Sea, the Red Sea, the Indian Ocean, and the Atlantic Ocean?

what?

obviously not living out there, but moreso venturing out there for food

[forest minnow]

There’s no fish big enough and populates fast enough for spinosaurus maybe one

[wraith kindle]

It’d get eaten by the next big shark or drowned by an orca.

[steady rock]

great white shark vs spinosaurus who wins

[velvet burrow]

Smaller spinosaurids like Irritator would probably do fine

I imagine they'd also shrink in size over time

[warped peak]

Spinosaurus no. Basically any other Spinosaur would manage

And the open ocean is a madhouse for a smaller Spinosaur

[forest minnow]

Actually great white ain’t doing nothin to spino

[steady rock]

spinosaurus can have the sunfish trollface

i feel like, the only thing threatening a spino in the ocean is a orca

[warped peak]

Realistically yeah. It's a behemoth

[forest minnow]

The biggest Great whites weighed a fraction spino does, Orcas tho it’s joever

[wraith kindle]

Yea, all it takes is for a smart orca to keep it from surfacing.

[steady rock]

i mean, i feel like orca's would observe them first as they never encourtened anything like that before

[tough parcel]

The orca when the Spinosaurus begins shooting lasers

[warped peak]

The average Orca i don't think is taking on the average Spino, but for the big fellows it's a massacre

[forest minnow]

Very true orcas don’t usually attack things they never seen or interacted with before

[steady rock]

i mean, mess with one orca you mess with the pod

[fluid inlet]

I didn’t know you were the new redboss

[steady rock]

redboss is actually my little cousins brothers sisters cousins brothers alt

[forest minnow]

They’ll most likely ignore each other orcas might get curious tho but won’t get too close since it’s a pretty big creature

[warped peak]

Agreed.

[steady rock]

can someone make a size comparison of a spinosaurus and orca ( preferrabley the type that lives around africa )

[forest minnow]

I don’t have that but I do have the biggest orca recorded next to spoon

[fluid inlet]

Using orcas in captivity vs spinosaurus which were always in their natural habitats is just super misleading.

[steady rock]

??

[warped peak]

What does captivity have to do with anything

[fluid inlet]

The biggest orcas recorded as far as i remember were the ones in captivity. You need to use measurements of both animals in their natural environment because you will never get spinosaurus in captivity so it’s just a goofy comparison if you use orcas in captivity measurements.

[tough parcel]

The humble Jurassic World: Rebirth

[steady rock]

falcon, can you do a size comparison of Orcinus orca and spinosaurus? 🥺

angel~1

[wind prairie]

didn't spino regularly eat fish like, twice the size of a great white??
either way... spinosaurus gets saltwater sickness and keels over, gets eaten by the shark. The end

[forest minnow]

This all I got 😭 I can try to find the orca chart I need but I made this awhile ago

[sudden wind]

Orcas being like some of the bulkiest marine animal to ever exist

[white matrix]

whch is more accurate?

[forest minnow]

It’s the second one

[wraith kindle]

Were achillos actually that small?

[warped peak]

4+m isn't SMALL, but yeah it was definitely smaller than Utah

[wind prairie]

obligatory "bet if you saw it in person you wouldn't call it small"

[opaque kayak]

I honestly didn't realise how big trex was comped to tylo

[forest minnow]

Ribs being swept back does that to you

[wind prairie]

I figured tylo got way way bigger than that with bonker

[wraith kindle]

In comparison to the first image. That’s like, normal dromaeosaur size.

[opaque kayak]

Apparently not, bonker got downsized

[white matrix]

I’ve also seen a variety of different deinonychus sizes.

[warped peak]

These are all about the same size

[forest minnow]

My 20t+ mosasaurid will never exist they apparently weighed like paper compared to other marine reptiles

[white matrix]

Oh, it must just be my eyes then. So deinonychus stood at around a wolf size?

[wraith kindle]

I’m trying to say ‘So, Achillo isn’t a giant dromaeosaur after all?’

[stiff osprey]

Achillobator is one of the 5 largest dromaeosaurs and weighs about as much as a lion

[forest minnow]

I mean bonker would be in the weight range of 10t which would rival sue and Scotty

[steady rock]

lion son or achillobator daughter

[stiff osprey]

Sure it's small compared to Utahraptor but like... so is every other dromaeosaur

[wind prairie]

you must have a misconception on the average size of dromaeosaurs then

[wraith kindle]

Giant dromaeosaur would be like Utahraptor size or close to?

[steady rock]

whats the largest troodontid

[stiff osprey]

Wait, I think james mistook the image of the 3 utahraptor specimens for being utah, dakota and achillo

[wind prairie]

achillobator, austoraptor, and utahraptor are all very large for dromaeosaurs I'd say.
velociraptor, dromaeosaurus, saurornitholestes, etc. are more average

[stiff osprey]

This isn't achillobator, it's juvenile utahraptor

[steady rock]

whos james

[wraith kindle]

Oh is that what the second image was? I don’t know the specimen numbers, so, had no clue. Hatehumanity didn’t have context to the question.

[fluid inlet]

I wouldn’t hold my breathe on achillobator staying, top 5 I reckon it’s a lot more dromaeosaurids waiting to be discovered.

[wraith kindle]

I got it now after your other post (tsk tsk autocomplete suggesting mom).

[sullen cairn]

fun fact byu just has an achillobator for some reason

[stiff osprey]

orcas are larger in the wild

however it's still pretty unfair to compare the largest orca ever to the largest Spinosaurus ever, because Spinosaurus sample size is like 5 and orca sample size is 948285876

[wind prairie]

I think that would be the unnamed prince creek troodontid but don't quote me on that (auroravoris is a fanmade name. And it's hard to tell anything about this animal for sure since it's... just a tooth)

[sullen cairn]

much like the giganotosaurus and wretched tyrannosaurus...

[stiff osprey]

fun fact ''the largest t.rex is larger than the largest giganotosaurus'' and ''the average giganotosaurus is larger than the average t.rex'' are both equally true and equally statistically irrelevant

[opaque kayak]

Captive Tyrannosaurus are smaller then the ones in the wild

[fluid inlet]

Is the lack of giganotosaurus specimens the lack of effort or just the environment it lived that made it rare to be fossilized or both

[sullen cairn]

i wonder if there's at least one person out there who believes dentary giga is larger than any rex but also believes the average rex is sue-sized and thus larger than the average giga in order to make everybody mad

[stiff osprey]

mostly an environmental issue but the disproportionate amount of funding the US and canada put into paleontology compared to every other country also helps

[outer tusk]

both

[forest minnow]

Yeah your right cause I scaled it wrong

[fluid inlet]

I figured it would be both, I reckon it’s like that in most areas that are not very accessible and cost a pretty penny to go to.

[opaque kayak]

Ohhh, there we go, the boys

[outer tusk]

what is this horrid size comp doing in MY Path Of Titans paleo discord chat!!!!

[drifting condor]

Does anyone have a good list of the largest herbivorous dinosaurs excluding sauropods

[wind prairie]

lets take a second to appreciate mosasaurs as animals 🦎

[opaque kayak]

The gang

[fossil ingot]

Bro uses small Prog

To Much Peak in 1 Picture

[opaque kayak]

Marine animals be like

[opaque kayak]

Is there any more to the plio collection by fabio, like aramberri or macromerus?

[forest minnow]

Now show me the whole picture

[fossil ingot]

Ngl
Idk

[fossil ingot]

Fat Tylo😭
The time bro was around +12t

[opaque kayak]

Bro looks not even mosa size ong 🙏

[fossil ingot]

Ahh yes that lad that got lumped to Proriger

[forest minnow]

Chat is this size chart accurate

[drifting condor]

No one ok

[opaque kayak]

Also mother of god did these guys get downsized hard

[wind prairie]

there isn't enough paleoart of marine reptiles riding waves to save energy, attacking with their tails/flippers, or trying to hunt in tight shallow spaces

[opaque kayak]

My boys got nuked

Eh still the size of a mountain tho

[forest minnow]

What bro knows about 22 ton Tylo

[forest minnow]

If only this was real 😭it would be peak

[opaque kayak]

The closest thing we have to a irl JW mosa or giant marine reptile is himalaya, although it's ong frag

[forest minnow]

It’s also prob gonna get downsized

[opaque kayak]

Why is that? I also kinda feel that way, but was just wondering

[fossil ingot]

I have a Comparison of Current Lads with Fadeno's Tylo

[forest minnow]

15m and 35 tons and other ichthyosaurs got downsized it would be just too big

[wind prairie]

tbf mosasaurs getting very very large like that doesn't seem that implausible to me
unlike giant theropods, mosasaurs being aquatic means their weight can basically go as big as the prey of the area can sustain it

[forest minnow]

Problem is mosasaurs weren’t that thick they were pretty slender and would weigh a lot less than other marine reptiles at pretty big sizes

[fluid inlet]

prob not skippy

[bitter quest]

Anyone got a good skeletal for sinraptor, allosaurus anax, and allosaurus europaeus?

[winter marsh]

the one that doesnt show a turtle

[dry kindle]

Did itchyosaurs have scales?

[iron halo]

IIRC yeah but they were really small

[fluid inlet]

Megaraptors could

[wraith kindle]

Having the dexterity to operate is a different issue though.

[wind prairie]

no

[iron halo]

oh

[sullen hill]

This is an educational channel. Please do not troll or make joke posts in here.

[rancid arch]

Everyone talkin abt dunkleo and spino my bro tylo got turned into the size of a creature on river monsters.

[tough parcel]

Evidence there’s multiple specimens?

[rancid arch]

The ocean?.
Spino fighting a 190 ton creature thats the closest thing to a leviathan class being

[steady rock]

what

[rancid arch]

The only thing threatning a spino in the ocean is not only a orca

[steady rock]

uhm, yes it is

[fluid inlet]

Not really a sperm whale would def take on a spinosaurus

[steady rock]

would a sperm whale actively hunt a spino?

[fluid inlet]

No considering a spinosaurus in the ocean would be a rare occurrence

[steady rock]

i mean like, have sperm whales ever been recording hunting large prey besides squids?

[tough parcel]

No because sperm whales aren’t built for that

[fluid inlet]

Spinosaurus wouldn’t be in the deep sea, even if it was alive today or any other time period.

https://www.naturetripper.com/articles/sperm-whales-eat-sharks

[rancid arch]

Not even a sperm whale is needed, single hit from a stonefish, lionfish its over for bro

[elfin pulsar]

Lionfish stings arent even fatal to humans

No shot a spino

[steady rock]

i know, im just saying that i dont think that a sperm whale would be a threat to spino as they probably wouldnt react if they did coexist together

[rancid arch]

I think youd be surprised how good our immune system is

I myself have entire empires of code in just a tiny speck of blood.
Thats why we take it.

Spino gets a infection and dies in like 2 days

[fluid inlet]

True , Spinosaurus is pretty useless in the ocean and is simply not built for that life.

[rancid arch]

Rivers, laggons, yh.
Seas, oceans?..
Say goodnight.

[elfin pulsar]

Yeah a lionfish still isn’t killing a spino with a single sting

Lionfish venom is nowhere near potent enough for that

[fluid inlet]

Goodnight indeed.

[steady rock]

also, wouldnt the scales of a spino offer some protection from it?

[rancid arch]

It can get infected.
Any wound can.
But more like in the ocean
And in the ocean when smth bites you and it pierces, or stings.
Bacteria enters pretty fast

That thing isnt making it half way back to the shore

[fluid inlet]

A cookie cutter shark would solo a spinosaurus in the ocean 🤣 like…..

[elfin pulsar]

Saltwater is a natural antiseptic so this is self contradictory

This is a huge exaggeration of what an infection does or how it is acquired

[rancid arch]

My ego would beat a spino in the ocean cuz i got the entire romanian navy basing it.

Again spino at that point is a snack, would get exhausted and die of shock, or starve cuz it aint catching anything.

The sea is one of the most well known place for parasites btw so spino gonna have to take them too.

[fluid inlet]

Not even orcas are safe from cookie cutter sharks https://figures.semanticscholar.org/a906ff81088e6d07be91fd1dbc4362ed72fc131d/16-Figure5-1.png

[steady rock]

this chat reminds me that no matter how dumb you think you are there will always be bigger idiots then you are

[elfin pulsar]

Lol

[rancid arch]

Yeah you prove that

[steady rock]

alright, i guess i do

[elfin pulsar]

Ok that makes zero sense to the application of a lionfish sting and is also not how shock works so I’m just gonna move on

[fluid inlet]

Open Ocean

Cookie cutter shark > Spinosaurus

Damn, poor sword fish.

[rancid arch]

K lemme name some things which is a whole reason it wouldnt survive.

Starvation
Cookie cutter sharks
A spino in the modern day would likely be killed in alot of seas mistaken for a myth
Eaten by orcas.
Have fun fighting sharks in the water
Stone fish.
Sword fish to the back
How would a LAND predator that feeds on fish live in the ocean.
Thats like saying i ate canned tunah so i can go to the ocean and catch one with my teeth myself

[elfin pulsar]

Idk how to make this simpler that I am solely talking about a spino dying to a single lionfish sting makes zero sense

@steady rock idk I just assume they didn’t read lol

[steady rock]

what if your being baited

[rancid arch]

You changed the subiect tho
Why not recognise it couldnt survive mostly anything

[opaque kayak]

I swear to god it's spino every time

[elfin pulsar]

I was only ever talking about the lionfish sting part please read my messages

[fluid inlet]

I love spinosaurus, but it would get packed up in the ocean, in any era.

[steady rock]

besides a orca what is packing up a spino in modern day

[frigid delta]

Spino when Orcas & Whales:

[opaque kayak]

Every time, we get lured by the Spino bait

[rancid arch]

Sharks,
Bull whales

My nana with a raft and spear sticks

[fluid inlet]

Still better than 6mph tyrannosaurus

[steady rock]

what shark is packing up spino

[rancid arch]

Cookie cutters

[fluid inlet]

Bro a spino wouldn’t be in the ocean in the first place lol , humpback whales fight orcas . It would slam a spoon.🥄

[opaque kayak]

I mean realistically spino would drown in the ocean since even crocodiles can't be in the ocean forever

[tough parcel]

Due to salt poisoning, not drowning

[steady rock]

well yeah, but like venturing out there for food, not living out there

[elfin pulsar]

I just know by some messages clearly the understanding of infection and how shock and the immune system work is not there 😭

And yes spino almost def gets packed in ocean tbh

[rancid arch]

My nana with a spear and a raft solos a spino in the water tho

[opaque kayak]

I mean realistically nothing outside of orcas is killing a spino in the ocean, being real

[fluid inlet]

One shot from a humpback whale fin spino getting 29 bones broken, and a soerm whale would def kill a spinosaurus if they both decided to fight

[steady rock]

exactly

[elfin pulsar]

I just think spino would get so outcompeted in the ocean

[rancid arch]

Whales.
Spino provokes a bull its over

[opaque kayak]

Me when a humpback whale randomly attacks things out of nowhere (They don't outside of orcas, which are their natural enemy)

[fluid inlet]

https://www.naturetripper.com/articles/sperm-whales-eat-sharks

[opaque kayak]

I also agree Spino would virtually never go out to the ocean, since food their is not one which Spino would be hunting, but anything else which can beat spino in the ocean are Baleen whales, which don't even really attack humans, or beaked whales, who's largest prey is 1/20th the size of spino

[small geyser]

Ah we’re doing the “animal that’s been extinct for millions of years living in the modern world” thing again?

[fluid inlet]

Well, what do you want to talk about? Lol

[steady rock]

talk about rex or talk about spino

[elfin pulsar]

Some dude was saying a single lionfish sting would kill a spino 💀

That doesn’t even kill a human usually

[opaque kayak]

I swear to god it's always Spino. In this month we had the Spino > Rex size bc Density guy, the I hate Spino bc of JP3 guy and now we have Spino dies from lionfish guy

[small geyser]

Asked this a couple times already but what is the most up to date weight estimate for Scelidosaurus? We could talk about that…

[warped peak]

I don't think Spino would outright succeed in the ocean, but it'd better than any other Dinosaur in the ocean, outside of birds

[steady rock]

well yes

[opaque kayak]

Agreed. Spino def would not do well in the ocean, different, small and faster prey, while it's easier on the rivers, but not because of predators

[fluid inlet]

Spino not even succeeding in the shallow seas let alone the open sea.

[steady rock]

would spino succeed in the amazon y'all think?

[opaque kayak]

Not because of a random sperm whale coming up to kill it though 🙏

[fluid inlet]

Yes.

[rancid arch]

Dies from my nana
She solos a spino

[warped peak]

Spino is way too big for the Amazon to sustain

You'd want a smaller Spinosaur or Baryonychine

[small geyser]

My spiky boy!

[opaque kayak]

I think it depends, I kinda would say not, since the world where spino lived is much less forested, and has way more rivers

[steady rock]

is that from a game? it looks so good

[fluid inlet]

Anyways back to dumb spinosaurus conversation 😎

[small geyser]

Prehistoric Kingdom. I just want an up to date weight estimate for him. This is supposed to be where the paleo nerds are.

[fluid inlet]

Spinosaurus I give it a lot better of a chance in the Amazon than the ocean, of course.

[opaque kayak]

We are nerds but we aren't very paleo

[rancid arch]

Capybaras solo tbh
Would turn to violence even if herbivore to kick that lizzard out

[opaque kayak]

Megacephalosaurs eulerti. Some of the last of the pliosaurs and lived with Spino & Carchar

[fluid inlet]

Ain’t nothing big enough to make spinosaurus respect it in the Amazon or that will be able to do significant damage.

It would hunt the top predators of the environment and the biggest fishes. I’d say spinosaurus would do just fine.

[opaque kayak]

Amazon seems way too forested to really let a fatahh like Spino be comfortable, and the fishes and the size that Spino hunted them as, so I kinda feel meh on that

[rancid arch]

Put a tiger in a small woodland itll starve
Would catch much, food portions would be small,

[forest minnow]

nope theres no fish big enough or reproduces fast enough to sustain spino currently maybe one can

[gray zealot]

spino bites a large electric eel and dies

[drifting arch]

My bf told me to check this out, and honestly I really love the design for Tameryraptor, though is it a carchar family member?

[opaque kayak]

Yeah, bro was once carchar but turned out to be a different dude

[fluid inlet]

More of the point is it could thrive as long as the food was enough for it to keep up with its appetite.

I agree tho that the only issue would be the lack of right portions.

[steady rock]

spino can also eat amazon river dolphins but nobody is ready for that conversation

[drifting arch]

you mean its classified under a different family? Sorry, just trying to get an understanding, as this is the first of me hearing about Tameryraptor, but it looks very interesting!

[small geyser]

What about modern day Nile River?

[opaque kayak]

Oh, no it's still one of the big carchs, but just another genus/species now!

[fluid inlet]

Too slow https://x.com/jackstr42679640/status/1862351918380790234?s=46

Jack Straw (@JackStr42679640) on X

#Brazil: Amazonian dolphin plays with crocodile's tail

X · Nov 29, 2024, 4:24 AM

[drifting arch]

oh ok, thank you for the clarification!

[steady rock]

okay, this is a very different case but if polar bears can eat narwhals and beluga's, why couldnt a spino eat a river dolhpin?

[warped peak]

Because there's no ice to force them to breathing holes where they can be snatched

That being said, Spino could absolutely snatch a Dolphin if it gets in range

[gray zealot]

im not ready for whatever cursed parasites infest a spino in the amazon

[opaque kayak]

Rivers are generally super dirty, so we aren't looking at anything new

[steady rock]

i mean, the giant amazon leeches will finally get megafuana

[fluid inlet]

How about suchomimus in the Amazon instead of spinosaurus

[warped peak]

Spino gets soloed by Escabar's hippolopolis

[gray zealot]

giant amazon leech? smh i have a name

[steady rock]

i have a giant fear of leeches and worms /srs

[fluid inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/leech-king-kong-2005-insect-leeches-king-kong-gif-1992704231833275130

[opaque kayak]

The largest mesozoic predator. I wonder how this guy will do in today's oceans

[small geyser]

Isn’t sucho speculated to have more of a wading niche?

[steady rock]

i just told you i have a giant fear of them and your gonna send a gif of them?

[fluid inlet]

Dominate the open seas.

[opaque kayak]

I hope he doesn't get perucetus'd

[steady rock]

i mean like, whats he hunting in your opinion?

[opaque kayak]

I think it would be hunting giant whales like humpback whales or grey whales, this guy was so big I can't imagine anything else sustaining him

[steady rock]

i mean , ehhh

[fluid inlet]

I’m not sure tbh, need a suchomimus expert input to help us out on that one.

[steady rock]

i dont see it hunting whales

[fluid inlet]

I think whales would be its primary diet

[opaque kayak]

Agreed. I'm not sure what else that thing would be hunting, since usually squid eaters don't have anywhere near the teeth of that thing

[fluid inlet]

🌸

[steady rock]

i just cant see it, idk it dosent look likes it built for that with that type of jaw

[opaque kayak]

Oh that's ichthyotitan. This is himalayasaurus's jaws

[wind prairie]

spino has such plentiful food in the north african rivers, why would it ever bother going to the ocean unless a young inexperienced spino thought it was a giant lake

[steady rock]

we're talking abt modern day

[fluid inlet]

I’m not really educated on himaylasaurus neither. 😣 is it the “ Swiss tyrant”?

[wind prairie]

spinosaurus would die in a week in the wild during the modern day, it doesn't belong here
"ahh, the kem kem river beds, what giant fish will I eat to-..... IT'S GONE"

[steady rock]

i mean, it could eat the hippos

[fluid inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-gun-kill-it-killing-it-gif-15853370

[rancid arch]

Have fun with 8 of them
Even 1

[fluid inlet]

💀💀💀💀

[steady rock]

" evan 1 "

[wind prairie]

so we're assuming it's spawning in africa?
hippos run crazy fast and "swim" fast too so I doubt spino could catch up (and yeah even so hippos are a handful and a half)
elephants are too dangerous
spino will die of starvation or get hunted by humans for their hide

[lavish frigate]

Large ichthyosaurs in general would give large cetaceans a beating, especially if some of the “bigger than blue whale” stuff turns out to be true.

[opaque kayak]

It's a diff guy, Swiss tyrant is even bigger

[fluid inlet]

Damn they said Ichthyotitan mid difficults the Swiss tyrant

[rancid arch]

I didnt even misspell that
I wanna ratio you with reactions, ima turn this to a..app, certain app

[steady rock]

you cant say i mispelt in, i have a typing quirk....

[fluid inlet]

Ichthyosaurus really said it was too easy to get to the top and just vanished 😭

[rancid arch]

Huh

[steady rock]

anytime i mispell something thats actually my typing quirk meaning i cant be wrong

[wind prairie]

ichthyosaurus...

[fluid inlet]

This thing of ours

[opaque kayak]

The king of the seas

[indigo cradle]

Shonisaurus 🛐

[opaque kayak]

Worship the god

[fluid inlet]

We solo u

[opaque kayak]

Not thin enough jaws ahh

[ancient crystal]

Get back to me when Icthyotitan inevitably gets downsized

[fluid inlet]

We won’t be getting back to you lil bro

[warped peak]

Wouldn't exactly be unreasonable, it's not a very full fossil

[fluid inlet]

How crazy would it be if they found more material and it gets a buff

[steady rock]

something perecetus cant do

[ancient crystal]

These things never stay at their exceptional sizes, nothing ever happens.

[fluid inlet]

👺

[opaque kayak]

Granted it's been like 7 years

[warped peak]

Ichthyo has only been formally described like a year

[lament pond]

besides size how did tyrannotitan differ from giganotosaurus?

[steady rock]

location and time i believe

https://x.com/AmmoniteSeries/status/1892030886977098060 can someone tell me what this means in caveman terms?

Ammonite Series (@AmmoniteSeries) on X

Yesterday an article was published by Hector Rivera-Sylva, from "Ankylosaurians of Coahuila, Mexico"

Where @RubnMolina25666, @TheDarknix and I also collaborated for the estimates and a skeletal

https://t.co/Gasjh1qxDi

X · Feb 19, 2025, 1:58 AM

[halcyon cobalt]

read the damn thing

[hallow grotto]

Its bone structure is different to Giganotosaurus

Scapulocoracoid is fused and more developed compared to a Giga.

Tail vertebrae and back have taller neural spines than giga too

[steady rock]

NO

[fluid inlet]

lol

[steady rock]

if i read, a tyrannosaurus dies, thats why we have barely any fossils from it

[round hedge]

Dunk was not doing well

They nerfed it

Ichtyotitan is doing really good

Buff it !

[fluid inlet]

Poor dunky, I’ve come to enjoy the new look.

[round hedge]

How good was tenontosaurus's tail as a weapon against something big like an acro ?

[scenic flame]

https://youtu.be/mrATz5jUk2M?si=hl08MkH0JSCNwEMW
More that dunk was finally measured properly

[astral spindle]

My Bias for sharks will not tolerate this!!!

[round hedge]

And my Bias against sharks won't tolerate this mesage either

(Jk)

[lone birch]

my neutrality towards sharks won't tolerate either of these messages (/j)

[lone zephyr]

i went to the nat hist museum in london and it was so inacurrate it was kinda funny

they still use the carnosaur/coelurosaur system where big=carnosaur and small=coelurosaur

[stable sun]

there are a total of 1 named Dromaeosaurids of Utahraptor size

[stable sun]

Tameryraptor is a Carcharodontosaurid

[stable sun]

Diagnosis- (after Novas et al., 2005) some teeth with bilobate denticles on mesial carina (unknown in Meraxes).
(after Canale et al., 2015) dentary with an anteroventrally-posterodorsally symphyseal margin in lateral view (unknown in Meraxes); second and third dorsal vertebrae with well-developed accessory lamina connecting anterior and posterior centrodiapophyseal laminae (unknown in Meraxes); fibular fossa extended far proximal to ectocondylar tuber on the distal femur; anterior margin of proximomedial fibular fossa posteriorly projected, covering part of the fossa.
Source: https://theropoddatabase.github.io/Carnosauria.htm#Tyrannotitanchubutensis

[wraith kindle]

Ok, it’s an exceptionally giant dromaeosaur apparently.

[fluid inlet]

On record at least

[stable sun]

well yeah

[fluid inlet]

Wouldn’t be confident at all saying it’s the only dromaesaurid of that size.

[stable sun]

that's why i said "named"

[fluid inlet]

That’s correct you did

Ichthyotitan

[astral spindle]

5 trikes from ~1200 fossils.

[tough parcel]

Tronkcertops

[fluid inlet]

Funny I was looking at these the other night because someone took a picture with them on instagram.

[astral spindle]

Yea, museum in the Netherlands.

[umbral kite]

so wat was stopping something from eating a trikes back

[warped peak]

The Trike's front

[umbral kite]

no yea but if a trike wasnt in aherd then wat stopping a two or more rexs from just out movering it and just keep biting it tail or back

[warped peak]

The fact it can turn fast

[fluid inlet]

The goat is back

[umbral kite]

i didn’t have any questions

[astral spindle]

The shoulder bones that help it turn so fast.

[stable marlin]

1 Trike vs 2 rexes wouldn't go well. The trike might be able to cover its front from 1 rex the other will flank it.

[wind prairie]

I still think light feathering in some areas on sauropods and larger ornithischians is reasonable

[outer tusk]

That's anything but little

[fluid inlet]

No.

[wind prairie]

why not
also yeah ok maybe it's a little more than I realized but like what if it was a bit less than that

[fluid inlet]

In spirit I agree but that’s way too much I’d reckon.

[balmy oyster]

I really doubt sauropods had any feathering, and also considering that we have quite a good amount of skin impressions to signify they weren’t feathered.

[wind prairie]

skin impressions wouldn't be able to capture very very minute patches

[round hedge]

Overheating entered the chat

[wind prairie]

that little wouldn't cause overheating lol
nvm tho

[round hedge]

If it's as much as in that picture...

Yeah........ y'know

[fluid inlet]

Well… you know

[steady rock]

When would megalania be to fat to climb trees?

[round hedge]

At about late adolescence i believe

[potent bobcat]

How big was Wiehenvenator?

[outer tusk]

\

[round hedge]

Yep, he's massive

[potent bobcat]

So why did Sastrei Studios rename their Megalosaurus to Wiehenvenator after Megalo's size increase?

[outer tusk]

Why would they do that

[round hedge]

Megalosaurus buff

[tough parcel]

It was when Wiehen was bigger than Meg

[outer tusk]

here's the 2 specimen ( also if we wanna be more technical there is one femur that was assigned to megalosaurus that would be about 4.6 tonnes )( PLEASE REMOVE THIS SLOWMODE )

[round hedge]

A question, now that we know how small dunk was, what mistakes did we make when measuring it, before measuring it corectly ?

[tough parcel]

Megalosaurus is usually found smaller than Wieh so Wieh was used to avoid resizing their Megalo

This is disregarding the fragmentary Megalosaurus specimens because they're fragmentary

[stable sun]

Yeah but largest Megalos are larger due the fact that it has more known specimens

[outer tusk]

Evo's is also redoing her dunk

[round hedge]

Damn, random is very popular, got many of his skeletals upon searching up his name

[tough parcel]

If you search up their name, of course you'd get their skeletal 😭

[outer tusk]

what Falcon said ( also ik this is Dan's old neovenator but if I wanted to could I technically use it as some kind of asfaltovenator - adjacent carnosaur?

[halcyon cobalt]

why is the diver so thick

[river plinth]

How big is Megalosaurus now?

[fluid inlet]

https://x.com/ppaleoartist/status/1892303667283300560?s=46

Petite Paleoartist | Sauriazoicillus 🍥 (@PPaleoartist) on X

after multiple years of keeping my mouth shut, I can finally release the art i made for Kotevski et al., (2025)'s recently published paper

they describe carcharodontosaur and unenlagiine material from australia, as well as new megaraptorid material

#AusPalaeo

X · Feb 19, 2025, 8:02 PM

[drifting condor]

Who would win chasmosaurus or styracosaurus in a fight

[forest minnow]

I uhh I got a lil bored

[halcyon cobalt]

add nothronychus

[forest minnow]

Ignore theri has a bite taken out of it

[velvet burrow]

Where Piatnitzkysaurus at

[opaque kayak]

Always find it funny how the biggest pliosaurs ended up being ones we never pay attention to (Sachi, Monster of aramberri and Predator x (funkei)

[outer tusk]

when did fabio did the middle one

[opaque kayak]

Uhhh, a long time ago, like a couple years ago iirc

[ancient crystal]

How fast would an animal like sachi be able to move?

[opaque kayak]

Probably quite fast, but I honestly have no idea how fast. I wonder if there is a study on pliosaur speed

[steady rock]

dang sea dragon is not liked

[uncut salmon]

Hypothetically. If any of the larger carnivores thought you were their child how in danger would the people around you be?

[storm merlin]

Do you look like a dinosaur 😭

[manic grail]

Where is this

[uncut salmon]

...no which is why it's a hypothetical question. I just want to hear wholesome stuff for once

[steady rock]

detroit

[tame tapir]

Does anyone know the difference between Desmatosuchus spurensis. And desmatosuchus haplocerus. ? googling aint working for me

[umbral kite]

what bigger the largeta giga or the largest trex

[storm merlin]

Google

[tame tapir]

Neither dawg,.. they both dead

[umbral kite]

ok whos fossil are bigger the largets giga or trex

[tame tapir]

Giga is taller, rex has more mass

[jagged trellis]

don't we only have 1 giga specimen
anyways said specimen gets to like 8.smth tons and the largest rex we have is i wanna say 8.8( reliable one anyways) so it kinda varies by literally just acouple hundred pounds for estimating either so
yes

[storm merlin]

Rex Bigga

[sudden wind]

Both are very much like the same size

[tame tapir]

Spino IS the BIGGEST,…

[jagged trellis]

( but also rex has alot more fringe high weights and giga is 2* remains mb on that one)
spino best for putting adverts on for sure, so much spleen room for marketing and l o n g

[storm merlin]

@fossil ingot have at it

[rancid arch]

Every coyote i see

[fossil ingot]

Technically
Rex is still taller kinda?
Giga is Longer tho

[fossil ingot]

I mean
Spino is cool

[fossil ingot]

If we go by Maximum Largest.
Rex is taller and Heavier but Giga is Longer and more Bobblehead.

If we go by Average.
Its kinda hard due to Rex having a somewhat Average but Giga has like no average lol
Holotype Giga is taller, longer and bit heavier than the Average Rex

[rancid arch]

Why do i remember them looking bigger

[forest minnow]

Cause that’s Cope rex, cope is huge

[rancid arch]

Isnt golliath estimated to like 11-12 tons,
Trex might never break 13

[fossil ingot]

Cope Next to Sue as Comparison

[forest minnow]

Massive

[rancid arch]

If sue got fatter i wouldnt tell a difference

[tame tapir]

Come back when you got a more complete specimen

[fossil ingot]

Goliath its estimated at 13.1m and 12.1t iirc
But bud is just is a Femur
Here a edit of Cope with just a femur to Represent Goliath
Goliath on Left and Cope on the right

[forest minnow]

Tbf we have more on cope then we do on that spino

[tame tapir]

Bro, I hate when people be like “”I got the toe of this thing it’s humongous”” such a shame we don’t have more complete specimens

[fossil ingot]

Cope is literally more Complete than that Spino specimen tbf😭
Or even Dentary Giga.
With better material too

[tame tapir]

Rex chading it up al always

[rancid arch]

The most complete dinosaurs arent the most well known for some reason, micros decent but not even allo level, taco...sadly not either,
The dinos that are complete and popular are usually from mummies,
Like i think theres a edmonto one where skin or smth like that is present, even muscle

[tame tapir]

Anyway,,….I came here for this question… anyone know?

[fossil ingot]

Cope and Dentary
Still Funny Cope is the heavier of the two, average Rex moment
Even if said Weight difference is like 500kgs

[drifting condor]

Who would win chasmosaurus or styracosaurus in a fight???

[rancid arch]

Why are they so much smaller than i was thinking before
Like i thought they were massive, they are..but not on the level i thought of.
Like a bigger caliber gun prov can take them out in one or two hits to bd and one to the head.

I forgot these are animals and lived once

[fossil ingot]

Honorable mention to Sucho

[drifting condor]

If no one has the answer I must ask an Ai who said carno was the 2nd largest theropod

[fossil ingot]

Better Compare Sucho with something its weight rather than 2x its weight lol

[fossil ingot]

Idk who is Bigger
Chasmo sounds bigger but idk its size
I know Styra is like 1.6t or something

[forest minnow]

Me when I get a lil too crazy with size comparisons

[honest cobalt]

I always find it interesting how paleontologists find weights, lengths and heights from very few bones lol

[fossil ingot]

Lmao

[wind prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-daring-today-spongebob-spongebob-meme-daring-today-arent-we-gif-23808696

[opaque kayak]

Now we must add the gods

[forest minnow]

Bro is notttt fitting

[tame tapir]

Nice pic

[opaque kayak]

Believe in the gang

[wind prairie]

"forgetting somebody?"

[opaque kayak]

Also found bruhathkayosaurus hilarious in shape compared with arge

[forest minnow]

Erm erm are those ichthyosaurus and mosasaurs after the size nerf

[tame tapir]

[drifting condor]

Also what do you think about this list of the biggest non sauropod herbivores
Shant- ~15t
Ed- ~10t
Magna- ~8-9t
Stego- ~8t
Bar- ~7-8t
Duck- ~7t
Para- ~6t
Theri- ~5.5t
Lurdu- ~5.3t
Anky- 5.1t
[Not mine]

[thorn grove]

Assuming this is going by max size some of the Hadrosaurs are underestimated, Shant gets to 19 t, Ed to 13-14, and magna to 10-11, otherwise it seems ok other than I don't remember how reasonable that lurdu estimate is

oh yea ceratopsians are completely missing lmfao

[plucky basin]

im no nerd, but i THINK its missing trike

[drifting condor]

https://tenor.com/view/knuckles-i-dont-know-gif-1171059229216507234

[plucky basin]

i feel stupid now

[drifting condor]

I'm just looking for a large herbivore to be my favorite Dino now I shall dissappear

[outer tusk]

pretty sure Deinocherius isn't a herbivore

[outer tusk]

if we're going off of largest shantungo, ed, magna should be larger, and trike should also be there

[compact leaf]

at the very least it’s omnivorous but overall it seems pretty much adapted to consuming plant material

[drifting condor]

Well it ain't a carnivore either

[forest minnow]

Stego was 8t? Dang it looks so small for 8t

[honest cobalt]

This lil guy is the leader

[opaque kayak]

Nope, Tylo actually might be a bit bigger, but the ichthys got NUKED

[wind prairie]

for all intents and purposes it might as well be
pescatarian describes it perfectly

[rancid arch]

Para COULDNT be only 6 tons on my life.

[opaque kayak]

The little guy actually is controlled by the even more little guy

[outer tusk]

anything above 6 tonnes for parasaurolophus is dead ON YOUR LIFE

[forest minnow]

So the mosasaurs are fine? I assume besides mosa but the icthys are wrong?

[rancid arch]

Theres no way that chonker is only 6 tons
Also anky 5 tons...poor fella
But no way para was only 6

[opaque kayak]

These got turned into these

[forest minnow]

The big para was a lie it was all a lie sadly

[drifting condor]

I didn't make it if you didn't see the lil messages at the bottom

[outer tusk]

the list don't lie

[rancid arch]

Did PT upsize para or am i bad at sizes

[opaque kayak]

Shant outsizing the biggest trike, anky and stego this much is scary

[thorn grove]

PT very much upsized it

[steady rock]

this is missing a vital dinosaur

[drifting condor]

Lamb is way to big

[rancid arch]

Swear the biggest trike was bigger than that
why are the dinos growing in weight but shrinking in the actual size
Time loop

[thorn grove]

did shant get a tail length buff or something cuz that length is almost a meter longer than what I remember

[steady rock]

where is Hypsibema, the Appalachia giant?

[opaque kayak]

I think it just looks that way since hadros are very thin dorsal, and trike is fat ahh.

[steady rock]

did torvo make this?

[outer tusk]

Table made it

[rancid arch]

Also apperantly tarbo is 5 tons and not 7, ima cry

[steady rock]

@sullen cairn i would like to make a complaint about your LIST

[opaque kayak]

Oh right, apparently there are some unreleased big ahh tarbs

[forest minnow]

Could you tell me the length and weight of the biggest trike and Stego?

[outer tusk]

the largest trike would be 8 tonnes and about 8 meters and largest stego would abe about the exact same measurement

[opaque kayak]

IIRC 10 tons and 16 tons. (Apparently there is a uncatalogued femur which might get shant to 19 tons)

[steady rock]

16 ton stego?

[drifting condor]

We just gonna ignore 7.6 ton lamb ok

[opaque kayak]

Oh, shoot, I thought shant for some reason

[forest minnow]

Trike 10 tons? Stego 16tons? 😭 what

[thorn grove]

I mean the femur is listed in the initial paper describing shant

[drifting condor]

Where you get this lost bro😭🙏

[outer tusk]

somewhere

[fossil ingot]

Its Compact
Not that Long but its wide

[drifting condor]

Lamb is giant😭

[thorn grove]

where do you see 7.6 t lamb on the chart lmao

[fossil ingot]

PT Para size was fine during the time of its creation, it later got downsized

[fossil ingot]

That Anky seems to Big, Stego to small?

Nvm Stego seems Fine.
But that Anky still seems to tall

@steady rock 7t

[steady rock]

dace reaches 8 tons, right?

[thorn grove]

pretty close it's like 7t or so

[drifting condor]

To be specific 7.63

[fossil ingot]

Anky seems somewhat Alr?
Fabio's Person should be 1.8m tall
I feel that Anky is to tall

[drifting condor]

Oh wait that's length...

Nope nvm lamb is still tiny

[fossil ingot]

That Anky on your comparison there looks like old 8m Anly

[drifting condor]

sigh another day of lamb being 3.293 tons...

[fossil ingot]

8t Bars?

Ngl I don't see Bars been 8t

[drifting condor]

Hope we find a 8 ton lamb

Nah I can't be a lamb fan

[storm merlin]

Have fun

[spice snow]

How much money for y'all to fight a raging neanderthal with no weapons

[rancid arch]

Never said what age, squearing up with a 8 yr old for free

[spice snow]

Crazy 😭

[outer tusk]

if you don;t think so you can always just ask table

[rancid arch]

If lamb outsizes alot of spinos that thing wont even be a apex anymore
Charca got a upsize anyway, should replace it

[hallow spear]

oversized anky

[thorn grove]

btw how old is that chart

[outer tusk]

November 23th, 2024

[fossil ingot]

Knew my feelings of it were right.

[outer tusk]

isn't Fabio shant also a bit oversized too just a tiny bit

[rancid arch]

Am i crazy or is shant almost 20 tons in there,

[thorn grove]

it is

[hallow spear]

idk i forgot

[wind prairie]

how much knowledge does the neanderthal have? (because neanderthals were capable of being just as smart as humans)
so long as the neanderthal is also unarmed but has caveman intellect I think maybe someone could win

[forest minnow]

Actually currently carch ranges 7.6-8 tons compared to spinos 7.5-8.5 tons

[rancid arch]

Its average is larger still, even tho the max is smaller

[thorn grove]

we dont have a carchar average lol

[fossil ingot]

Technically
7.6-8.2t tho you can get Carcha alot higher but those become kinda more unreliable

[forest minnow]

There is no average for carchar it’s just what you scale it with

[fossil ingot]

Carcha is just a Skull
All Proper Spino's are not fully grown tmk and the Big "Spino"@ are jaw fragment or even debated to be Spino Aegyptiacus

[forest minnow]

Aye spino still mostly heavier hehe haha

[fossil ingot]

Tmk 8.5t is with 1.05 density which is like the highest but I have seen more use around 1.03 density and getting like 8.3t with 3D Model, but if we go by unreliable Scaling, Carcha technically gets larger based on Meraxes iirc

[drifting condor]

What are some large herbivorous dinosaurs that are in base game pot

[forest minnow]

There is no 10-11 tons carchar in paleontology

[drifting condor]

What would be the dinosaur counterpart of the african sable?

[rich vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-6037055492951935036

[hardy sentinel]

Can we appreciate these guys? (Ignore the Pterosaur and Pseudosuchian)

[steady rock]

why is that tarbo so skinny

[winter marsh]

no

[tacit pine]

W but why ignore those 2?

[hardy sentinel]

Because it says dinosaurs but shows two non dinosaurs

[tacit pine]

Meh whatever

[sly viper]

I hate dinosaurs

[wraith kindle]

Is that white thing next to most of them supposed to be a saddle or a chicken?

[bright mantle]

Chicken I think

[manic grail]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-sentinel-optimus-prime-optimus-prime-gif-26529362

[fluid inlet]

Is that Willard

[opaque kayak]

It's apparently the largest

[fluid inlet]

Willard is the largest from estimations I’ve seen,

[opaque kayak]

Then yes

[wind prairie]

early whales are awesome and silly who agrees

[opaque kayak]

living tower

[fluid inlet]

Also idc if shantungosaurus is bigger the ankylosaurid still scares me more

[opaque kayak]

Apparently the anky is not that big

[fluid inlet]

That anklyo would end stegosaurus in one shot 😭

[opaque kayak]

I mean anky still big, even if it is not fadeno size

[wind prairie]

who would win
ankylosaurus in musth or frieren (the character ref)

[rich vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-birds-movie-kick-gif-5231324

[opaque kayak]

Ankylosaurus would high diff. BIQ and EQ being to anky, it's osteoderms allow it to be frieren proof, and it being 66 mya makes it loli-resistant (it's 65,999,900 years older then friren)

[hardy sentinel]

A chicken

[wind prairie]

Frieren might be able to win if she locks in but even one tiny slip up and bye bye ribcage

https://tenor.com/view/tank-utahraptor-saichania-dino-swing-dinosaur-king-gif-19814199

[tacit pine]

Anyone got an up to date chart like with but with kem kem or dinosaur park?

[fluid inlet]

No way they can make me believe that in a time with megafauna everywhere ocean creatures of the past were smaller than the ones of today.

[wind prairie]

you think like me brother
but sadly there is no evidence
I always found it weird that we've never found anything truly massive (exceeding like 15 tons) in the mesozoic oceans after the giant ichthyosaurs

[hardy sentinel]

Are you being a conspiracy theorist or just in aweful disbelief by how goated whales are?

[thorn grove]

tbf I think it's been hypothesized that giant filter feeding whales existing today is a result of rather unique ocean currents and thus productivity that exist at this time, it'd be incredibly hard to be a macropredatory animal while matching the feeding efficiency of a blue whale eating 200 tons of ocean water worth of krill

[fluid inlet]

No one is discrediting whales, I simply believe that throughout history regardless of fossil evidence. There has been many things to reach these sizes over all that time. Or around that size.

[wind prairie]

one word: Physeteroids.
Sperm whales today are just as massive as a lot of baleen whales and they eat small squid in regular amounts. And that's not even mentioning extinct physeteroids which were also this giant size that actively hunted (comparatively small) HUGE prey (huge as in, about the size most large mosasaurs and pliosaurs etc. were at)

if I recall, something like mosasaurus was prey size for livyatan

[hardy sentinel]

So you're making a guess without proof to back it up? That's sort of a conspiracy theory ngl, closest thing to Blue whale size (200 tons) was a Ichthyotitan (80 tons)

I mean, there was Perucetus as a contender for a bit at 340 tons before it got nerfed to 60 tons

[thorn grove]

True-ish, but saying physeteroids are as big as baleen whales because the largest members are comparable to medium sized baleen members is sorta like saying Hadrosaurs were as big as Sauropods because Shant is comparable to Diplodocus

[hardy sentinel]

Even amongst their family, Blue whales are an oddity size wise, there's no reason to assume other stuff got that big twice

[wind prairie]

I am not talking about any 100+ ton shenanigans. 30-70 tons is about a good average that a lot of baleen whales are in, and most physeteroids are there too

[warped peak]

No lol, only Physeter and Livyatan are

[wind prairie]

... ok still
most other extinct physeteroids there were probably still some that got close to around that weight. Mainly I'm looking for something over 15 tons because post triassic, marine reptiles don't really pass that

[warped peak]

Sachi

[hardy sentinel]

Like look at this, fin whales (61-66 feet) are tiny in comparison to their closest relative, the blue whale (80-100 feet)

[wind prairie]

oh? sachi surpasses 15 tons? well this is news to me
I'm sure the very largest individuals just barely get a few tons higher than that. You know what I'm aiming for
better say 20. That's generally a wall for these things as well as sauropods

[hardy sentinel]

Actual chart where they are straighted out

My point: Animals of a blue whale's size is incredibly rare even amongst its GENUS. There is little to no reason to assume the average ocean giants surpassed even fin whales

[fluid inlet]

Yep I don’t take lack of fossil evidence as proof they weren’t pushing that size for one bit.

[warped peak]

The largest after Livy is this dude

And Sachi sits around 16 tons currently

[wind prairie]

literally 1 ton over what I said
I just mean something that goes well past the general size range of a large orca

[opaque kayak]

wasnt it albicetus or physetodon?

[thorn grove]

tbf, yea absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

but it seems like a hasty assumption to make without evidence when blue whales are uniquely giant even among baleen whales

[wind prairie]

I'll say it again: I'm not talking blue whale levels of massive. That takes something special

[opaque kayak]

That being said I agree that there really is not much outside of late triassic, miocene and perucetus of really large marine animals

[hardy sentinel]

Just wanna clash together all our points: All ocean "mega giants" are pretty friggin rare and require unique circumstances that would kill off the animal if they were to disappear

[opaque kayak]

Apparently there are a bunch of giant whale livy-sized (table by meg)

[wind prairie]

yeah think about it though, plesiosaurs lived on earth almost as mind numbingly long as the dinosaurs did, but apparently never got huge. But as soon as the cenozoic starts, pretty quickly things like perucetus are in that 30-70 ton range I mentioned. (Even the cretaceous alone is longer than the whole cenozoic, just for time reference)

[warped peak]

Note the large ones are not Physteroids

[hardy sentinel]

I don't know which side of the tree Perucetus fits on, but if it's baleen it's most likely because of an explosion of plankton which they directly ate, if it's a toothed whale, explosion of stuff that feeds on plankton

Plankton = lots of food = get big = die without enough food because too big

[opaque kayak]

I mean these ones

[wind prairie]

perucetus wasn't even a modern whale. They hadn't even lost their back feet before they reached giant size

[warped peak]

How many of those are isolated teeth

And even amongst them, only 1 exceeds 12m outside of Livy

[opaque kayak]

That being outside of perucetus, nothing which isn't a otodontid from not miocene is not super big

[hardy sentinel]

TLDR: Super Friggin Big = Super Friggin Rare

Lack of fossil evidence should NEVER be a reason to assume something existed

[warped peak]

Baleen whales are just hilarious freaks of nature. Only modern Sperm whales can compete with average Baleen whales among Tetrapods, with a few Ichthyosaurs getting close

Fun fact, the adaptations of tetrapods to come to land give them an advantage in the ocean that most fish never evolved

[hardy sentinel]

Didn't Shastasaurids eat squids just like Sperm whales did? Squid is the best way to bulk frfr

[fluid inlet]

People can assume whatever they want bud.

[warped peak]

They can, but don't pretend that's science then.

[opaque kayak]

I assume 30 ton spino trust

[thorn grove]

oh, since I haven't really looked into Ichthyotitan specifically all that much, what's up with that "aust colossus" specimen?

[wind prairie]

I agree with that but at the same time we've had giant marine mammals for almost as long as we've even had marine mammals in the cenozoic alone, and the only reason paleozoic sea creatures didn't reach those sizes is because life was literally just starting out
generally mesozoic oceans had similar or equivalent enough conditions to a modern ocean that it doesn't seem stupid that a 50 ton plesiosaur could've at least been capable of making a living

[hardy sentinel]

Doesn't mean it's correct, and considering you are in a chat about questions and facts, this is no place for baseless claims that aren't open to be judged

[opaque kayak]

It's a absolutely fragmentary, absolutely titanic animal (the one above), but it's so frag it's hard to say much of anything else

[wind prairie]

another great point. That's 3 instances of marine non filter feeders getting massive independently (shastasaurids, basilosaurids, physeteroids)

[fluid inlet]

No one finds 30 ton spinosaurus realistic is the thing, with stuff like Ichthyotitan pushing the size it was and at sub adult, leaves room for curiosity and potential with stuff around that same size range out there and bigger yet to be discovered.

[opaque kayak]

This is probably a little more updated comparison, which has the extremely thin jawed aust cliff ichthyosaur and the toothless shasta

[warped peak]

To be fair, Peru is only about 40 tons now, which is less absurd

[thorn grove]

ah ok gotcha, I heard people saying that it was larger than an average blue whale despite not being fully grown but I also remember reading that growth stages can be misidentified in ichthyosaurs or something like that so idrk

[wind prairie]

still well into the "massive" range I'm suggesting (30-70 tons)
peru being 40 tons means it's like 4 times bigger than the average giant marine reptile in the jurassic or cretaceous

[opaque kayak]

It is larger then a average blue whale, and it is also supposedly not fully grown technically iirc. That's abt what I get as well

[hardy sentinel]

I'm imagining everything you're saying in a crappy AI peter voice

@fluid inlet the 30 ton spoon was a clear joke, your "theory" is just a joke that you don't realize is one

[warped peak]

Honorable mention for Stellar's Sea Cow to be the only marine herbivore to exceed 4 tons

(It's around 15 tons)

[fluid inlet]

Weird guy

[opaque kayak]

Also my poor plactoderm gang getting mogged (they never recovered from the downsize)

[hardy sentinel]

Bro was in the most literal sense a floating lug of living meat, poor guy couldn't even submerge or fight back

[wind prairie]

Lois show me the macroplesiosaurs

[warped peak]

I gotta finish my Hydrodamalis model so I can make a proper GDI at some point, as there's no proper weight estimates

[wind prairie]

stellar's sea cow was really cool
just so sad it was easily abused by humans and prob orca fodder

[opaque kayak]

I wonder, will you ever do a megaichthyosaur model, like the new shastasaurus?

[warped peak]

Eh unlikely. Cymbo maybe, none of the rest are super appealing to me

[opaque kayak]

Do you plan to do any marine reptiles? Just wondering

[hardy sentinel]

I have a theory chat:

Spinosaurus is gonna get smaller by 30× because the photos were taken at really weird angles compared to people and the amount of hallucinogens needed to sanely study Spinosaurus made it seem bigger in person

[opaque kayak]

Also yeah cymbo is a weird guy

[fluid inlet]

You been eating a couple too many rocks I’m afraid

[wind prairie]

alright slow down so the dummies can catch up smarty pants

[hardy sentinel]

The Troodontid teeth have been getting to my brain (I need to stop eating the teeth)

Okay that emoji work is actually diabolical

[opaque kayak]

Yeah I would need hallucigenics to believe this guy as well

[warped peak]

Hmm

• Spinofaarus v2
• Eretmorhipis eventually
• Megalosaurus schnaitheimi
• Annakacygna

[opaque kayak]

That's peak, eretmorphis moment

[warped peak]

I love that stupid swan

[halcyon linden]

Take a drink every time a baby dinosaur dies in a dinosaur documentary.

[wind prairie]

eeerrrm isn't the sail meant to be M shaped

also if poposaurus is awesome then give it 5 big booms

[opaque kayak]

Apparently we aren't sure (ppl make thousand versions of the sail ong)

[lavish frigate]

Do we have any evidence against dorsal fins in large ichthyosaurs? Never see them depicted with sizable ones

[steady rock]

so like, does this show that large whales can coexist with megalodon?

[halcyon cobalt]

16 tons is pretty huge bro

[stable sun]

Which ones are these

[opaque kayak]

Titanichthys, Dunk, Dinichthys, Gorgonichthys, and I forgot the last pancake one

[steady rock]

whats the biggest, prehestoric, freshwater fish?

[steady rock]

how tall was amargasaurus with feet pls

[round hedge]

Like......with its feet on its legs, or the amargas's height IN feet ?

[steady rock]

how tall is amarga in human feet

[round hedge]

Depends on the age, height, weight and nature of the human in question

[fluid inlet]

Tall

[steady rock]

its almost 4am, im tired, im kinda pissed off and i really dont wanna do this rn

[round hedge]

In the american measurement system using feet, it's about 8.2 feet tall

[steady rock]

thank you allo

[round hedge]

Np, but it was kinda fun with how You put it earlier

[steady rock]

rumble we gonna have to rumble if you keep this up

[round hedge]

Leave him be, he's not at fault, and neither are You, nor me, nobody did anything wrong

[steady rock]

is that ur face? it looks like the image u showed us

[astral spindle]

If anyone knows, please tell me how big the biggest T.Gurneyi is and the size of Edmarka rex (if possible show the skeletal too).

[stable sun]

Edmarka is 11.4 m 5.2 t

[astral spindle]

Thx

[frigid delta]

largest Camara species?

[compact leaf]

supremus

[hallow spear]

Supremus at around 19-20t

[tacit pine]

Damn bro sachi getting bigger and deino getting smaller 💪

[frigid delta]

any good Camara supremus skeletal?

is Gunnar Bivens decent?

[stable sun]

Yeah

[hallow spear]

Gunnars and Henrys cama are good from what i recall

[outer tusk]

DerpyStego said Gunnar's and Henry's are good

[outer tusk]

Also have this neutral pose edit if you want it

[frigid delta]

ty chicken from surf's up

[round hedge]

Is random's bahariasaurus about 5m tall ? (At head)

[dim rune]

I heard Goliath got upsized at some point, how beig is this rexasourus tyrann now?

[outer tusk]

~11 tonnes

[tulip stream]

How many hamburgers is a Mapusaurus

[umbral kite]

if a argent swing it tail would it be like getting hit qith a giant log and send u flying or like a giant wip that cut in half

[velvet burrow]

Ig a giant log that'll turn you into a blood stain

[umbral kite]

what type of hamburger also i feel like it depend on how close u are to the tail of it like the tip would be like a wip but the middle would be like a log used like a baseball bat

[wraith kindle]

Its tail is sorta weird shaped.

[tulip stream]

Let’s go cheese burgers

[proud prawn]

The floor of 11.4 tonnes from circumference allometry didn't change, but I was chatting with Curtice about it and it's longer than we thought. Video including the new info should be out this weekend

[tough parcel]

Wow I sure do love getting my new information regarding a scientific specimen instead of from like

A source

[fluid inlet]

Real, also Indian titan sauropod still on top

[tacit pine]

If you guys had to pick a formation for a dino game what would u pick ASIDE from hell creek and morrison

[tough parcel]

Dinosaur Park Formation

[fluid inlet]

Easily bahariya formation

[tacit pine]

I had the same idea

[tough parcel]

Woah indet. and fragments all around!

[iron halo]

Man, Spinosauridae indet. is such a fun playable

[fluid inlet]

🥱

[tough parcel]

We should name it Megathanatosspinus killerdemonicus for the game!

[proud prawn]

RIP Fangorn

[opaque kayak]

He is indeed truely massive (argen and patagotitan are colored)

[broken shale]

Achillo is a pterasaur right?

[warped peak]

Obviously

[round hedge]

No, he is a ceratopsian

[fluid inlet]

Lil bro trying hop on the bandwagon

How accurate is this size difference

[opaque kayak]

Brother bandwagon fell off when femur dissapeared

[fluid inlet]

Also wouldn’t Indian titan also be the tallest sauropod?

[uncut salmon]

.... formation? Like anything? Does it have to be the real world? Pandora, but and the dinosaurs would be pandora-fied

[tough parcel]

Last I checked, there is no paleontological record for Pandora, a fictional planet

So assumedly yes, it would be a real world fossil formation! In the real paleontology chat!

[stiff osprey]

Actually James Cameron told me Pandoran paleontology will be an integral part of Avatar 9: Resurgence

[hardy sentinel]

Nemegt

We got Tarbosaurus, Alioramus, Deinocheirus, Therizinosaurus, some Troodontids, some huge sauropods, Barsboldia, and Saurolophus to name a few

[scenic flame]

it looks alot more gracile than argent, I would wager it's lighter

[velvet burrow]

Bajo de la Carpa

[hardy sentinel]

The Nemegt formation is so underrated

[velvet burrow]

It's the better Hell Creek

[hardy sentinel]

I feel bad for Tarbosaurus, they had to eat tickle chickens and ducks often

[fluid inlet]

That’s actually a great formation, I’ll put it at the top of the list as well. Nemegt Formation.

[hardy sentinel]

I ❤️ Mononykus

All I see from the Nemegt is PEAK

[fluid inlet]

Which formation maip from

[velvet burrow]

Bajo de la Carpa is the definition of underrated. It's a (decently) complete ecosystem and none of it's animals is ever named in a conversation (not started by me)

[velvet burrow]

Chorrillo
iirc it only has the elasmarian Isasicursor and Nullotitan. I'm not sure if there's other sites with contemporary fauna, probably part of Allen formation

[fluid inlet]

Yeah you were right on the money

[tough parcel]

Chorillo reminds me of churro

[light osprey]

The Allen fm is like 1000km away from Chorillo.

[velvet burrow]

Yea, they're still maastrichtian in age and if they did overlap in time, probably shared a lot of fauna

[light osprey]

The Dorotea is a more obvious contemporary formation, and actually shares at least one species

Though there are clade level similarities between the Rio Negro/Chubut faunal assemblages and Magellanic outcrops

[velvet burrow]

Nice

[wary junco]

Paralligator and Azhdarchidae indet. are my favourite dinosaurs lmao (creator probably should have titled it Archosaurs of Nemegt rather than dinosaurs)

[broken shale]

thal is a ceratopsian right?

[steady rock]

well yes

[rich vessel]

Huh?

[steady rock]

?

[rich vessel]

Thal is a ceratopsian?

[steady rock]

yes

[broken shale]

Yeah

[rich vessel]

What

[tough parcel]

Cubic has come in this chat a few times and asked nonsense questions so it's best to just roll with it

[tacit pine]

Nice

[broken shale]

Nuh uh
Must be a different cubic

[steady rock]

its a ceratopsians family reunion, not a Marginocephalia family reunion meaning pachy never gets invited

[tough parcel]

Sorry my king, I apologize for being so hasty in judgement

[broken shale]

@novel haven it was you wasn’t it

[steady rock]

stop pinging random ppl 😒

[broken shale]

Just a fellow cubic 😊

[steady rock]

falcon i have a size question

this is two things i remember from yesterday

is 7 ton lamb a actual thing

and how much did Hypsibema weigh as its named the alpachia giant

how fragmentary is theri?

[wind prairie]

we're stuck in a perpetual loop of size discussion
how about this:
early pseudosuchians and early cetaceans are awesome

[sudden wind]

Early pseudosuchians really do not get enough attention despite the immense diversity they went throught the triassic.

[tough parcel]

No

And like...5-6t I think?

[steady rock]

everyone yesterday was hyping up 7 ton lamb tho

[steady rock]

https://tenor.com/view/buckspendragon-stan-twt-reaction-meme-oh-judge-gif-15536285624090212418

[tough parcel]

Where

[wind prairie]

you've got everything from large predators bipedal and quadrupedal like prestosuchus and postosuchus
aquatic predators like qianosuchus and phytosaurs
nimble predators like poposaurus and sailbacks like ctenosauriscids
tanky herbivores like aetosaurs
nimble and huge herbivores (in the case of sillosuchus) like shuvosaurids

[steady rock]

chilli dog kept talking about 7 ton lamb due to the hadrosaur size chart table made

this one

[tough parcel]

Huh I only see 5.5t lambeosaurinae indet.

[steady rock]

also i thought edmonto was smaller then 13 tons

[tough parcel]

Are you sure this is Table

[steady rock]

i thought torvo made it but i got told table made it

[round hedge]

How big was futalongkosaurus ?

[tough parcel]

@sullen cairn Please set this right or I'll make sure to tell Big Paleo on you

[steady rock]

what did he get wrong?

[winter marsh]

Tendaguru, Ostafrikasaurus go brrrr (also its basically african morrison so heheheha)

breaking the rules without breaking them at all

[astral spindle]

Wait? Beckys Giant?

[steady rock]

who?

[rich vessel]

Oh ok

[astral spindle]

Made by??

[sullen cairn]

there's a 7m lambeosaurus which someone read as 7t

[tough parcel]

What about 13t+ Edmonto? Is that the liberally-scaled B. Giant?

[fluid inlet]

Tablespoons

[stable sun]

Yes

[stable sun]

table you forgot to add "Hadrosaurus" breviceps

Btw PIN 551/357 isn't the largest Saurolophus, PIN 551/358 is

[wind prairie]

can this channel talk about anything but size scaling, AvA, and rexspinogiga arguments

[outer tusk]

no

[round hedge]

This is majority of what the channel is made for

[stable sun]

no, because Giganotosaurus was actually 8576.096212 kg, while the guy who I'm arguing with said it is 8576.096211 kg

[astral spindle]

I thought it was X-Rex

[stable sun]

???

[round hedge]

It was obviously also a joke

[winter marsh]

its paleontology, its kinda on topic

[round hedge]

As long as we stay on topic like we are now, we are good, and we have an incereased chance to get the slowmode cut down

(Hopefully)

[winter marsh]

please abmins, let us talk about funny pseudosuchians more pls

[stable sun]

Yeah but for example literally everyone here ignored the Romanian sauropod news

[winter marsh]

where

[stable sun]

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14772019.2024.2441516

[round hedge]

A SAUROPOD FROM MY COUNTRY ?

[winter marsh]

magy is kinda old tbh isnt it

[stable sun]

@round hedge @winter marsh two new genera got named

[round hedge]

OH MAN, I'M STOKED

[winter marsh]

[stable sun]

Here are all the Hateg island sauropods

[winter marsh]

there are like 3 different magyaros then?

[round hedge]

Fun fact, uriash (uriaș in romanian) means giant

(You probably already knew this,but I'm just too excited about the news)

[stable sun]

Wdym? There's only one species of Magyaro

[sullen cairn]

brick's x-rex
although fun fact an svp abstract last year had a volumetric scaled to x-rex at under 10t which would be really funny

[winter marsh]

m dacus, m hunaricus and m transilvanensis

[tough parcel]

Evidence of the shrinkage?

[stable sun]

Magyarosaurus transsylvanicus is a junior synonym of Magyarosaurus dacus and Magyarosaurus hubgaricus isn't related to Magyarosaurus and thus got a new genus name, Petrustitan

[winter marsh]

great, I didnt read the whole arcticle and aint a paleonerd so sorry abt that

[stable sun]

Ironically Magyarosaurus is actually closely related to Alamosaurus, which reaches a weight of 30-40 t while Magyarosaurus is less than 1 t

[umbral kite]

how come a carnotorsaur and pycnosaur have horn but a teex of giga dont

[round hedge]

Magyarosaurus is a smol little lad

[round hedge]

Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this and effing died

[astral spindle]

How how reliable would that shant estimate be? He's about 2-3 tonnes heavier than last I remeber.

[stable sun]

Carnotaurus had horns probably for display or something, I don't have enough info I haven't looked into this

Pycnonemosaurus has no known skull

Why would Tyrannosaurus or Giganotosaurus haie horns?

[round hedge]

T.rex had small ridges above it's eyes, but not straight-up horns, same with giga's lacrimal crests

[steady rock]

idk ask @sullen cairn

[stable sun]

Yeah because this is for a 180.5 cm femur (for comparison Dreadnoughtus had a 191 cm femur)

[astral spindle]

So the 16.6 ton shant was another specimen?

[stable sun]

Where did you get 16.6 t from? I don't think it's inaccurate I just wanna know the source

[astral spindle]

One of my friends told showed it to me on a spreadsheet (idk
where it's from)

Either way is the 19.2 ton one another specimen?

[tulip gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814951592495284296/1229882370648440972/togif-3.gif

[round hedge]

Wow, me so hurt

Waaaaaaaaaaah

[tulip gyro]

whatever this is, looks cool

[fluid inlet]

Alamosaurus

[round hedge]

My aah ain't getting any pnso figures, the most recent spinosaurus is almost as much an average tv 💀💀💀

(In my country at least)

[fluid inlet]

It’s a nice figure

[astral spindle]

That settles it, I'm breaking into your house just for THAT.

[rich vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story4-toy-story-bunny-ducky-bunny-and-ducky-gif-15280599

[river plinth]

Because they didn't evolve that way

[warped peak]

huh (Argent and Kelenken)

[steady rock]

whos the biggest bird whos the biggest bird

[wind prairie]

it's funny because the biggest bird song mentions aepyornis by name, which was correct. Then aepyornis maximus (the biggest bird) got moved to its own genus with the new name vorombe titan. And now vorombe is invalid so it's back to aepyornis maximus
(I think)

[steady rock]

its like a circle :D

[outer tusk]

you have paleonerd's kelenken?

[wind prairie]

could 2 PoT players armed with a spear each beat a full grown prestosuchus irl

[warped peak]

These are very different stats for very similar skeletals

[outer tusk]

195kg is the older skeletal here

[spice snow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nwCM6a9Qx-w?si=3xAkGzed92Jxf-44

I THOUGHT THE BLUE ONES WERE EXTINCT

[wind prairie]

the beast will feel my blade in its back
if early man hunted mammoths with spears we could do it to something half the size..

[wary junco]

No? These are Hyacinth Macaws, which are only classed as Vulnerable by the IUCN, think you're thinking of Spix's Macaws which are Extinct in the Wild

[steady rock]

yeah in groups not solo 😭

[wind prairie]

spix macaw has made a small comeback I think at least

[wind prairie]

I said 2 humans. And this thing is half the size, lock in and it can be done

[drifting condor]

How did styracosaurus defend itself from predators that are almost 2x bigger than itself

[steady rock]

i dont wanna hurt a animal tho :(

[wary junco]

There's ~50 been rereleased but the IUCN haven't updated the status yet, usually they don't bother until the population is bit more established (like they did with the Scimitar Oryxes)

[wind prairie]

I get where you're coming from but
the animal wants to hurt you lol, stab that sucker
self defense and hunting =/= animal abuse

[steady rock]

can i tap into my inner roman?

[wind prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-running-squidward-spongebob-squidward-running-gif-10639659795249752005

[steady rock]

ROMANS TOOK ON BEARS, LIONS, TIGERS, OH MY, WITH MY SPEAR, THAT PRESTO IS DONE FOR isaweverythibg

[spice snow]

I thought the macaws from rio were hyacinth macaws at first 😭

[winter marsh]

it used its horn as a ballista

[tacit pine]

quetion? did the dinos of Bahariya formation co exist with other dinos around in the kem kem beds?

[steady rock]

i summon thy @opaque kayak to answer ur question

[tacit pine]

alr

[opaque kayak]

Yay, it’s a me. Iirc kem kem and bahariya don’t happen to overlap in fauna much. Tmk outside of marine/airborne animals they are seperated by a small sea. Tmk there isn’t a theropod/sauropod which belonged confidently to both formations, but a lot annecdotally to connect them, like spinosaurus. That being said excavation on bahariya formation is terrible so that prob has a lot to do with it as well

[steady rock]

is there a map of africa of that time so i can see the small sea?

[opaque kayak]

That being said I could be completely wrong about there not being any overlapping dinosaurs confirmed from kem kem and bahariya

[fossil ingot]

Thick

[drifting arch]

Which of the species of phorusrhacid "Terror Bird" was the largest? This is going to sound very noobish of me, but I learned about the Terror Birds from the Minecraft mod Fossils and Archeology, and they depict Titanis as the largest species; however I've seen a lot of posts flowing around Path of Titans suggesting Kelenken was actually the largest.

[fossil ingot]

Its between Kelenken and a Lad I forgot its Name
Tho Kelenken and the Largest Titanis are similar sized iirc
Then theres another bird I forgot its name which might be larger than both despite not veen adult iirc?
Random knows better tho

[stiff osprey]

Kelenken is indeed larger than Titanis, though Brontornis would be the biggest if it is a phorusrhacid (unclear)

[warped peak]

Devincenzia is the third candidate but unreliable IIRC

[fossil ingot]

Funny how Kitty is heavier

[steady rock]

how accurate is the new isle trike?

oops not meant to reply to that

[spice snow]

Ik this isn't appropriate here but im hearing some really fast loud footsteps in the staircase to my room and idk what it is

[steady rock]

what do you want us to do about that 😭 we'll miss you tho

[spice snow]

Two fast steps now, I also hear breathing, but it goes away randomly

[crystal dock]

Jane

[steady rock]

oh your done for, starting writing that will

[wind prairie]

nanotyrannus

[spice snow]

I thought it was my cat that got in again but he doesnt breathe like that, im also checking my room with my phone Light but theres literally nothing

[steady rock]

stop typing to us and go out there and fight

[spice snow]

Im with a hard glass candle with me to throw, I think these are just night terror or my sick baby brother but that doesnt explain the footsteps

[steady rock]

did anyone die in your family, it could be their ghost

[spice snow]

The house I live belonged to an old lady that passed away

[steady rock]

what was her name?

[spice snow]

Idk but I think these are auditory hallucinations

[warped peak]

We're discussing old dead things so it's Paleontology still

[spice snow]

It all stopped, its 2am I really need to sleep

[broken shale]

Duck is a theropod right

[steady rock]

yes actually

[broken shale]

-# really?

[steady rock]

yes

[broken shale]

I’m ashamed of myself 😔

[tough parcel]

It's OK, we still accept you

[steady rock]

how accurate is the isles new trike?

[broken shale]

It’s chest is too big

As an experienced paleontologist I don’t like it

[tough parcel]

Some problems might be because the rig is wonky (heard that it might be using Dibble rig?)

[broken shale]

I think this is a better trike and is more accurate

Ok I’m retiring from my 24 year paleontology career, goodbye

[tacit pine]

Ahhh ok interesting.

[tacit pine]

Btw is there like a lack of herbivores or sum in kem kem grounds?

[balmy oyster]

Nanotyrannus hellcreekensis

[potent rapids]

There is a decent number of sauropods (large-medium) which are definitely herbivorous, so no. That being said, Kem Kem does have a disproportionate number of giant theropods, which is a real exception in fossil records.

[halcyon linden]

Did you know that T-Rex had wings

[fluid inlet]

Still iconic artwork

[round hedge]

I'll bring a sledgehammer

[steady rock]

https://tenor.com/view/sauropod-allosaurus-landing-dinosaur-fight-gif-17282653

[round hedge]

How accurate is the pnso baryonyx ?

[round hedge]

What sauropod is that, If i were to guess, it'd be seismosaurus

[wind prairie]

seismosaurus is diplodocus hallorum now

[fluid inlet]

Barosaurus

[round hedge]

Is it also a diplodochid ?

So all diplodochids were able to reer up on their hind legs

[wind prairie]

tmk yes, all sauropods were capable of rearing up for at least a little bit, but diplodocids were the best at it

what are you guys' headcanon ideas of how particular extinct animals sounded? Nothing really scientifically based just when you imagine them what sound comes to mind

In my head small dromaeosaurs sound like velociraptor and pyroraptor from dinosaur planet, and dromaeosaurus from walking with dinosaurs (just as an example)

[median comet]

I know this is a paleontology channel but I’m doing an essay on paleontology and zoology can anyone help me with the zoology part I’m struggling right now

[steady rock]

how could so many sauropods fit into one small island? https://x.com/TheDarknix/status/1892590938209579108/photo/1

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X · Feb 20, 2025, 3:03 PM

[fluid inlet]

Why not

[steady rock]

is that u in ur pfp

[fluid inlet]

Well it’s not anyone else lol

[steady rock]

why do you keep putting ur head/face on other peoples bodys? ToT

[fluid inlet]

? What, what the hell are you talking about lol

[steady rock]

https://tenor.com/view/schizo-cat-the-voices-gif-25415230

[tulip dove]

They are just that based

[wind prairie]

because they're some of the smallest sauropods known lol

[frigid delta]

mine for Rex
from Prehistoric Planet, recently my personal favorite sound from a Rex roar

[frigid delta]

my name is Stromer
i found the Spinosaurus

[sudden wind]

The head is too small

[tacit pine]

Hmmm alright. So far ive only found 4 sauropods that lived in kem kem but yeah the disproportionate number of carnis is weird

[outer tusk]

Niche partitioning goes brrr

[frigid delta]

i'm not mentioning to be rude but are there any evidence of: "how come ceratosaurids related to abelisaurids?"

[halcyon cobalt]

clarify

[frigid delta]

why is ceratosaurids are related to abelisaurids
are there any fossil evidence or smth?

[halcyon cobalt]

yeah . it’s more like abelisaurids are ceratosaurs though

[round hedge]

Tiny island, tinier sauropods

[round hedge]

So all members of abelisauridae are ceratosauroids ?

[stable sun]

They for example all have 4 digits

@round hedge All Abelisaurids are Ceratosaurians and Ceratosauroidea isn't a thing

[round hedge]

So it's called ceratosauria

Understood

My keyboard acting up

[light osprey]

Its clearly not that small of an island

[umbral kite]

if trex didnt run that fast then how did it catch prey like edmont or para

[stiff osprey]

edmont also didn't run very fast

[tulip dove]

Perhaps the Tyrannosaurus used an ambush mechanic to gain 50% more speed to catch up to its prey

[calm agate]

Para was also already long gone when rex showed up

[umbral kite]

How a trex is a around 9~ ton and ur telling me a es would not have heas that from at least a good distance

[tulip dove]

I'm messing around dawg
But pretty much Rex didn't need to run fast because the other animals that lived with it also weren't that fast, don't need to be an olympic runner when your food isn't that fast either

[tacit pine]

Did zuchengtyrannus ever come across a tarbosaurus or nah

[umbral kite]

maybe not

[round hedge]

I know this is a weird question, but is pervatasaurus real ?

(I know it's not, just wanted to start a topic on it)

[tacit pine]

Hm ok

[umbral kite]

z tyranno was in around ireland and tarbosaurus was in asia but i dont really knew

[sudden wind]

Because they share the same characteristics that define Ceratosauria.

[umbral kite]

ty for making me look up that now i have to delete me history

[outer tusk]

Zhuchengtyrannus is NOT from Ireland 😭

[tacit pine]

Google telling me they were found a few kilometers away from each other but idk if thats true

[outer tusk]

Both are from China

[round hedge]

Hehe :>

[umbral kite]

well wat time apart like wat period in time were they

[tacit pine]

Oh alr

[outer tusk]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuchengtyrannus & https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarbosaurus

[umbral kite]

this y all allosaurus are stinky

[tacit pine]

Both late Cretaceous yeah. Thats why i wonder if rarely a zucheng could ever see a tarbo

[outer tusk]

No

[round hedge]

No need to hate, I'm also scarred bc of the pervatasaurus, but at least we know it wasn't real

[outer tusk]

Transylvanian Titanosaur spp.

[round hedge]

I love the Hatzeg island dinos

(Totally not biased)

[outer tusk]

Why would you be scared of something that's clearly not real