paleontology

[compact leaf]

depends on the ornithischian, stegosaurs didn’t have them but ankylosaurs definitely did, in hadrosaurs and ceratopsians some sort of cheek/rictus to keep food in is a safer assumption than lips

[indigo cradle]

It's so ugly I love it

[zealous ravine]

Is there direct evidence stegosaurs didn’t?

[compact leaf]

stego has talked about it we’d need to ask him

[little mauve]

Cheeks in ornithiscians is pretty complex, Nabavizadeh 2018 is the most recent review AFAIK https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ar.23988

[zealous ravine]

Muscular cheeks is unlikely, fleshy rictums are likely

[compact leaf]

yeah when I say cheek I really just mean rictus I should probably make that clear

inset tooth row is a general indicator of cheeks (sometimes it isn’t but those are oddities), they wouldn’t be like mammalian cheeks though that much can be agreed on

there is also rumors of hadrosaurs that preserve a skin flap cheek covering (rictus)

[frigid delta]

how accurate?
https://youtu.be/ZYGXgoo53Z0?si=Un3uNT2aizByIczM

[lavish frigate]

My rule of thumb is always assume feathers unless you have reason not to

And the beautiful thing is that if you just give everything prehistoric planet Rex style feathers, you never have to assume they didn’t have them

[magic monolith]

Sounds about right

[sudden wind]

It either means :

• feathered structures are inherited from a common ancestor between Pseudosuchia and Ornithodira (Dinosauriforms + Pterosaurs and co) but crocs have developed them differently, possibly have gone through reversion to scales.
• crocodile scales and bird feathers (which are scales btw but they don't go through the same expression, just like our hands and arms compared to other Sarcopterygians) share the same genetic compounds and therefore by using different transcription factors you can turn their scales into some feather-like homologous structure coming from the same genetic precursors (the same is possible with eyes between flies and mice for example).

[light osprey]

It’s a possible interpretation but the yearly precipitation for the Nemegt wouldn’t really make sense to be coeval with large scale aeolian deserts. I think it’s still more reasonable for the Nemegt basin to be successional.

[patent mist]

To be fair the recent paper on carno suggests the large scales that are scattered on its skin shed heat which would remove the purpose of retaining fuz

[uncut salmon]

If I remember correctly I've been told that due to tyrannosaurus's neck bone structure, it would have been unable to hold the proper tool for vocalizing roars and would have actually made grunts and hisses similar to a crocodile or alligator? I came here to ask have I been told a lie? Or have I been told the truth

[indigo cradle]

There's no evidence of a larynx in Rex

[uncut salmon]

My dumb brain doesn't know what that is? Have I been told the truth or a lie?

[indigo cradle]

Basically it didn't have the necessary anatomy for vocalization organs

So yes, if it made noise it would be grunts or hisses

[uncut salmon]

Thank you

Also sorry about the fact I don't know what a larynx was.

[indigo cradle]

All good, I just had to explain it to my wife too lol
Known colloquially as vocal cords

[vocal tulip]

theres no evidence of a larynx at all in any fossils. its soft tissue

[halcyon cobalt]

you were told the truth. should be clarified that “ neck bones” means the bones in the throat like the hyoid

[indigo cradle]

Some animals have hyoids, or scarring that would be caused by the tissues

That's what we mean by "evidence of"
Obviously we're not going to find a larynx

[tulip gyro]

just eat chicken

theres not much of a point in killing gators

or atleast i dont see a good one to kill a gator that didnt attack humans

[fluid inlet]

https://x.com/eartharchiveshq/status/1799396036776968555?s=46

Earth Archives (@EarthArchivesHQ) on X

Extinct colossal cat Acinonyx pleistocaenicus was the biggest species of cheetah to have ever lived, scientists reveal.

https://t.co/0hSmuxK3nM

#fossils #paleontology

Twitter · Jun 8, 2024, 11:00 AM

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379124001628

[hardy sentinel]

You could say the same about hunting any animal. Plus, gators aren't endangered

[tulip gyro]

depends kinda where you hunt them

(not endangered but the whole hunting thing, bc it sucks to go out into the everglades or overall just wild and kill em there, while in a small town its fine ig)

and they have not much meat, so i see alot of people just cutting off the tail and leavign the body there

[umbral kite]

nuh uh

[flat pond]

So wait, would this figure be inaccurate or not on the whole cheek thing?

[crystal dock]

No it would be fine regardless it wouldn't be "inaccurate"

[lavish frigate]

The fuzz doesn’t always need a function, like how elephants still have hair even though (at least as adults) it’s unneeded

[warped peak]

This is false. We have a fossilized Ankylosaur larynx

[vocal tulip]

ooh i didnt know that, interesting

[wary junco]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-023-04513-x

[warped peak]

That being said I'm pretty sure that's the only one we've ever found so it was a pretty fair statement

[patent mist]

Elephants fuzz keeps them cool.
It's something about making micro air currents or something

https://research.princeton.edu/news/cool-do-hair-helps-elephants-hack-heat#:~:text=In a very light breeze,readily transfer into the air

[trim abyss]

Nah it was a pretty wrong statement tbh. There is evidence and it isn't soft tissue.

[warped peak]

Valid

[frosty fulcrum]

I'm trying to remember the name of a four legged reptile dinosaur thing that has Sucho in its name

It's got a massive head

Suchus not sucho

Prestosuchus

[woeful falcon]

Massive head sounds like Erythrosuchus, even tho you just said presto lol

[warped peak]

Agreed

[wanton yew]

Its snowing so here is a fact, the kurucu penguin lived 24-27 million years ago and was 4.3 feet tall, you can find them in museums, or in the arctic of ark [game for those on other discords] today.

[ripe walrus]

yes i can confirm I WAS the spino i used the water speed subspecies and the rex was going for a swim so i killed it💀 👍

[stiff osprey]

Spino traveled 30 million years into the future just to kill a T. rex and then died in the process

[ripe walrus]

Nah i win 😤

[fluid inlet]

Ez clap for spino

[stiff osprey]

Y'all didn't read the post, the spino's skeleton was also found in the site

Or maybe Spinosaurus ritually sheds its skeleton to grow like an inside out lobster...

[ripe walrus]

Ngl im tired of the whole spino vs trex thing the Debate should only stay in jurassic park this is not trex vs spino its just mocking Spinosaurus a fair fight is Spinosaurus eagyptiacus vs Carcharodontosaurus iguidensis since saharicus is just too strong for spino (btw this is just my opinion dont take it as a fact)

[thorn grove]

animal fight debates are kind of silly in general, if they lived together I can understand since it's a somewhat relevant aspect of their ecology but otherwise it's best left for like silly friend group discussion and not a "real" debate

[ripe walrus]

Agreed

Like Power scaling like cmon they are animals not superheroes

[jagged trellis]

spino gotta be high solar system guys

[warped peak]

I think some of them are interesting in all honesty as the (typical) match up of predators interacting with unknown prey is genuinely a curious concept. However the other half of the time it's pointless apex vs apex and has no actual merit on the interaction of the animals

IE how big would a gorilla have to be to reasonably fend off a large Dilophosaurus?

[halcyon cobalt]

at most 60 tons

Caseoh jokes in December 14th 2024

[fluid inlet]

king kong wouldn't lose to dilophosaurus

[ripe walrus]

King Kong?

[fluid inlet]

the most beautiful extinct big cat

[ripe walrus]

Is the paper about a new Spinosaurus species found in Niger true?

[steady rock]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/museums/ct-ent-dispatch-sahara-paul-sereno-dinosaurs-20230106-hiynvjw4wrahjbt5jova6h476e-story.html

https://d3qi0qp55mx5f5.cloudfront.net/paulsereno/i/content/Dispatch_4-_Discovering_dinosaurs_adrift_in_a_sea_of_sands.pdf?mtime=1673020227

do these help at all?

[ripe walrus]

Awsome its true thx for the link

[fluid inlet]

is it the spinosaurid with the unique crest ?

[ripe walrus]

Yes Scimitar crest like

And with longer back legs i think im not sure

[scenic flame]

https://x.com/paleo_caio/status/1867631781572489559/photo/1

Caio_Fantini (@paleo_caio) on X

some more tests. #paleoart #dinosaur #pycnonemosaurus

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 6:04 PM

[ripe walrus]

its a New spinosaurus or a very close relative of Spinosaurus like Tyrannosaurus mcraeensis

[scenic flame]

that would make it a species of spinosaurus, not a relative, also could potentially be as seperate as tarbosaurus is to rex

[ripe walrus]

Yes

I get a lot confused about this subject to be honest

[frigid delta]

would all of this color combination be possible in non avian dinosaur?
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS61Kp8Sm/

[fluid inlet]

which dinosaur do yall reckon were built for combat besides maybe triceratops? Like when i think of an animal today very capable i think of a Tiger.

[tough parcel]

The Argentinosaurus

[hallow spear]

Technically triceratops was not built for combat over something like Thyreophorans

[jagged trellis]

no no you see it was like a blue whale, ran on land at 30 mph to avoid the scary mapusaurus and friends

[umbral kite]

guys how do we know spino was good at swimming

[rose thorn]

Why not?

[hallow spear]

Stegosaurian spikes seem to have evolved purely for predator defence, where as the main drive for triceratops horns could have just as easily been intraspecific

Something alone those lines, as stegosaur spikes cannot be used in intraspecific combat

Ankylosaurs do have evidence of intraspecific combat, but I would say given stegosaurs their club was probably more oriented for predator defence

[rose gate]

https://youtu.be/ezFRXdpHNac?si=wg-iIn2Zdao1i720

[stiff osprey]

triceratops specificially did evolve a solid frill as an antipredator defense so i think it's toe to toe with stegosaurs in that regard

[halcyon cobalt]

stego glazing stego

[halcyon cobalt]

testing how well it would have paddled with its tail and legs has been done with robots before. also, just look at it

[halcyon cobalt]

maybe mid-sized tyrannosaur #4565

[fluid inlet]

What did shunosaurus grow it’s clubbing tail for?

[warped peak]

Tapdancing

[ripe walrus]

slapping predators into oblivion of course

[fluid inlet]

It’s interesting that the species at least that I’m aware of is the only family of sauropods to grow clubs on their tails.

[stiff osprey]

Mamenchisaurus shows one, but it's a really weird structure and not really like shuno's

[fluid inlet]

https://lanatime-shop.com/cdn/shop/files/[e-mail]?v=1713491602

This one accurate ?

[stiff osprey]

more or less, just doesn't show that it's very thin

[jolly breach]

Hi everyone! I thought I would share something funny from an old dinosaur book I have. It was published in 2007 and is called "The Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs", this is what they imagined therizinosaurus to look like back then!

[frigid delta]

always says "no" to carnivorous theri

[tough parcel]

“Most agree”

[jolly breach]

Lol ik that made me laugh. At this time they only had pieces of it's arms and chest. This is their educated guess haha! They really fell back on the "chicken" part

[wraith kindle]

Well, modern reptiles can come in quite the riot of colors, so, it's entirely possible. We just don't know because only melanin out of the various pigment molecules has managed to be found.

[wraith kindle]

At least it's slightly more accurate than quad theri.

[jolly breach]

They were definitely getting there!

[jolly breach]

The even included it in the carnivores section lol

[wraith kindle]

Is there evidence of that? Even if they didn't engage in direct combat with it with each other, it doesn't rule out thrashing their tails or rattling them or something in an attempt to intimidate rivals.

[frigid delta]

yeah but imagine metallic black forest colored dinosaurs

[jolly breach]

Kentrosaurus lol!! I wonder what made them realize or take a guess that the two spikes were near their shoulders?

[wraith kindle]

Well, they do have armor...

@frigid delta Iridescence isn't really known in reptiles.

[frigid delta]

haha butt spike

[frigid delta]

fine but what abt violet colored dino?

[jolly breach]

Ooo they had parasaurolophus depicted as quad! I wonder what made people think they were bipedal for a while?

[tough parcel]

Tbf they can do both with quadrupedalism probably being a majority of movement until they really need to move, then they’ll flip to bipedalism

[frigid delta]

what would their reaction if u shout DO A FLIP

[tough parcel]

KT extinction

[stiff osprey]

Once you articulate the shoulders properly and place the spine horizontally it's easy to see why hadrosaurs would be quadrupedal. But until like the 90s people didn't do that for whatever reason

[wraith kindle]

Makes me think of chameleons. It's going to depend on what pigment molecules are using. All vertebrates use more or less the same pigment molecules don't they? Though mammals lost some.

[wraith kindle]

I recall in a dino book a comparison between hadrosaurs and bison, namely the hunchback curve. From like the 90's though.

[compact leaf]

the entire boa family is riddled with iridescence, and so are a lot of snakes

[wraith kindle]

Oh yeah, good point, I did think of shiny snakes, but I wasn't sure.

Not sure why I went with what I said.

@frigid delta

[compact leaf]

fair enough when you think about other reptiles iridescence doesn't really come to mind

[woeful falcon]

I had this book, classic

[wraith kindle]

Even then, reptiles can still come in quite the variety of colors.

Mammals lost some of the pigments, now we gotta make do with mostly melanin.

[frigid delta]

metallic colored Titanoboa?

[jolly breach]

I agree but I remember in jurassic park/world and ARK they depict them as exclusively bipedal

[tough parcel]

Ah then this

[wraith kindle]

Maybe they were just being bipedal every time we saw them? In JP/W.

[jolly breach]

You are most definitely onto something

[wraith kindle]

Not sure if that's meant to be sarcasm?

[frigid delta]

i think i remember you somewhere

[outer tusk]

falcon what have you done

[zealous ravine]

I could be wrong but I’m p sure like the only lizard around here is iridescent

Western Fence Lizard, but we call em Blue-Bellies

But yeah imo if it has scales or feathers then iridescence is fair game

[velvet burrow]

Oh wow i have that same book

[wraith kindle]

I know of those, but I don't know if it's iridescent or not. And yea, plenty of fish have iridescent scales too.

[river plinth]

They were actually both

[jolly breach]

Dw I'm aware! I replied to another response talking about how we see them as exclusively bipedal in Jurassic Park/World and ARK and I wondered if that changed people's perspective

[river plinth]

Oooh okie

[lavish frigate]

Wrong…

That’s what happens when the lakes dry up….

[umbral kite]

the hottest hot take u heard about dinosaur

[indigo cradle]

Anything about spinosaurus

[sterile trail]

T. rex being a scavenger

[fluid inlet]

And blind

[earnest dust]

and smelly

[steady rock]

and STUPID

[earnest dust]

T-Rex
more like
Stupid Rex

[honest cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-crying-gif-26249716

[earnest dust]

[indigo cradle]

I may have changed my name but I still 'ate Rex

[tulip dove]

Has there been studies on how good sauropods vision could have been

[pliant cedar]

considering how diverse bird colors are i wouldnt be surprised if they werent more diverse

[halcyon cobalt]

birds are generally quite small and can fly so I don’t think they’re the best comparison

[frigid delta]

define ur "small" bcuz Haast Eagle & Argentavis existed for a reason

[halcyon cobalt]

not “dinosaur sized” I’m pretty sure no birds have ever actually gotten past 1 ton

of course there were small and flighty dinosaurs though

[frigid delta]

fair

[river plinth]

a lion or ceratosaurus could beat a stego with ease

[open compass]

A jaguar can beta a brachi neg diff

[river plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-solana-sol-monke-gif-9088178999545228277

[iron halo]

Mammalian cunning…

[river plinth]

[thorn grove]

the secret 20 ton elephant that dinosaur fanboys locked up to keep the world from knowing about mammalian cunning

[light osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-to-reality-madara-gif-26470371

[umbral kite]

my hot take is para could beat up allosaurus hard diff

[thorn grove]

I mean it depends on the sizes of the individuals but plausible imo

[pseudo harbor]

I have a mammal bias and all but bro that’s a bit to far 😭

In no universe is the Rex getting demolished

[tulip dove]

The lumbering and slow thinking Tyrannosaurus against the mammalian cunning.....

[thorn grove]

mammalian cope has struck again

[fluid inlet]

T. rex wouldn’t know what to do when the elephant picks up a branch and throws it at him

[warped peak]

Something like Paleoloxodon maybe but not a modern bush elephant

[bitter quest]

A herd yes but solo less likely

[stiff osprey]

The jaguar thinking of how it's going to get to the T.rex's braincase

[frail robin]

It will obviously use its more sophisticated intellect to target the eyes of the T.Rex- rendering it blind before leading it into stepping on a red circle, which will then allow the jaguar to drop an anvil (ingeniously held up by a rope) directly on to the cranium of the sluggish reptile

[wary heath]

Honestly, accurate dinosaurs look more scary than the inaccurate ones.

[wary heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS71VeptuEc&pp=ygUfZmVhdGhlcmVkIGRpbm9zYXVycyBhcmVudCBzY2FyeQ%3D%3D

[light osprey]

The solution is to simply give it cheeks

[pseudo harbor]

Ik

[cloud badger]

Guys did a new SPINO update drop what am I seeing fat spoon on my FYP recently?

[river plinth]

Depends which species of parasaurolophus your talking about?

[river plinth]

I genuinely believe rex it's would be in shock not like scared but like yo wtf?!

[river plinth]

The lion on its way to decide what part should stegosaurus firmly grasp with its spike:

[cloud badger]

I mean that's a bad example because lions are just smart enough to figure out a way to hunt anything when they need to

Averaging at around 175kg the average African lion looks small compared to whatever prey it has yet they ve shown great capability at taking down practically everything they've yet encountered with African bush elephant being the largest because it's the largest there is

Yet they also get beaten by small things such as gazelles and oryx

[outer tusk]

what are y'all yapping about this time

[compact leaf]

I’m sorry but lions are not hunting a 7 ton stegosaurus

[warped peak]

Lions don't hunt adult Elephants either

And Stego's have protection against Lion's primary method of killing: throat piercing

[outer tusk]

Sophie is already enough 😭

[tough parcel]

The lion will surely win via mammalian energy

[cloud badger]

They do hunt adult elephants bulls especially the Okavango savuti lions since the only option they have is elephant during drive seasons
And the stego is great and all but considering everything can basically 1 shot a lion it's nothing new like most of their preys are vastly stronger than them or have weaponry capable of defeating them
It's a git or miss but that basically the same thing that happens whenever a lion tries to hunt

[warped peak]

It's not even about them getting killed. They do not physically have a way to meaningfully wound the Stego

[cloud badger]

They don't have a meaningful way to wound elephant or hippos and cape buffaloes either their hunts are usually long tactful process and less based around wounding and more about forcing a prey to just give up Wich can take up to multiple hours
Let's be honest I'm not saying 1 lions would beat a stego in any guven encounter
But I can see a group of 12 doing that consistently (Wich is a bit more than what they need for taking douwn an elephant)

But I'm more curious about the fat spino that appear on a fyp did he get a new update?

[warped peak]

Okay but

How is it forcing a Stego to give up? It's covered in heavy armor plates, blades, and heavy scales

[halcyon cobalt]

hopelesscore videos projected straight into their brain ofc

[tough parcel]

No lol, people are just so anti-"shrinkwrap" that they get silly sometimes and

[cloud badger]

Disappointed I lived the look

[outer tusk]

I should make my stegosaurus got bipedal as a defense mechanism

[outer tusk]

It doesn't exist

[fluid inlet]

Hate to break it to you mammal fan boy but the only thing lions would make a Stegosaurus do is laugh at the attempt of such fools.

[outer tusk]

the sigma stegosaurus curshes the lion under it's own weight!

[cloud badger]

Guys got a question is panthera astrox officially a lion subspecies or is it considered a separate species?

[topaz shell]

I’m pretty sure it’s distinct

[cloud badger]

By bad I meant fossils matrix is definitely distinct

[hallow spear]

“A stego” being a stegosaur, or a stegosaurus?

[cloud badger]

No stegomyia

[hallow spear]

Because to both of those, absolutely not 💀
Even the small stegosaurs could probably just walk over it

[cloud badger]

This is a stegomyia

[outer tusk]

Hahaha you're so funny

[thorn grove]

A stego being you perhaps?

[frigid delta]

found another dino arg (ig?)
https://youtu.be/BV_CJ8ikziQ?si=FLco1ivzQhsQjNyS

[hallow spear]

meow

[hardy sentinel]

What are the two most related dinos in the vanilla base game? Is it Achillo and Deinon?

[sterile trail]

Or Dasp and Rex?

[calm agate]

It's a toss up between Dasp+Rex, Achillo+Deinon and Alberta+Styrac I think

[sterile trail]

Lol

[hardy sentinel]

Found these if they help (I aint even gonna BOTHER with the ceratopsian tree)

[sudden wind]

Omfg I need it

[sudden wind]

Why the F*CK does Bista fall within Tyrannosauridae 😭

The Dromaeosaur tree though is so bad I wanna cry. So many polytomies.

[velvet burrow]

Wouldn't Thanatotheristes being in between the dasps imply that it belongs to the genus?

Like i know that's a thing but if you're gonna call it by a different name then put it outside

[hardy sentinel]

Look for your own trees dawg god forbid I don't know the exact feather count on a Utah's rump

[river plinth]

Lions get bullied by elephants and giraffes why would a whole stegosaur be different

[river plinth]

Even then they only target already wounded yong or sick they know better than to actually take on a healthy adult willingly tbf

[lavish frigate]

I love analog horror that’s just large amounts of art theft/unoriginal content

Oh and AI art
Which is sad because the premise is cool

[crystal dock]

^

[fluid inlet]

Was there any truth to that one article I sent about stegosaur footprints in the Cretaceous or whatever

[hallow spear]

Yeah

[fluid inlet]

wtf so the we need to destroy this “fact”

[stiff osprey]

no because those footprints were not from Stegosaurus lol

[hallow spear]

^

[fluid inlet]

??? You just said yeah

[stiff osprey]

stegosaur is a family, Stegosaurus is a genus

[hallow spear]

Read it again lol

[fluid inlet]

Stegosaurid made it then but not stegosaurus the species itself , ok

[hallow spear]

Stegosauria

[stiff osprey]

oh it's above family level I forgor

[fluid inlet]

Whatev im going to go make my hot chocolate

[hallow spear]

😭

[hallow spear]

Enjoy your hot chocolate

[outer tusk]

I hope you're chocolate is cold

[hardy sentinel]

There was an surviving stegosaurid in the early cretaceous, Which was 130 mya, so even if we go family wise rex is still closer to us

Wuerhosaurus to be exact

[steady rock]

wasnt there multipe survivng stegosaurids?

[hardy sentinel]

only one recorded to have survived, there most likely were more, but this is the only recorded one

[tough parcel]

The

[compact leaf]

there’s several undescribed ones in addition to it

[hardy sentinel]

source?

[tough parcel]

Whatever happened to Mongolostegus?

[compact leaf]

that’s a good question

[hardy sentinel]

We need to curb stomp google Ai, Stegosaurus and Dacentrurus did NOT make it

[steady rock]

mongoliustegus

[hardy sentinel]

the more ya know

[compact leaf]

wuerhosaurus may very well also represent two genera

[hardy sentinel]

well then we have a few who survived the early cretaceous, sadly Tyrannosaurus was not boxing up stegosaurs for breakfast

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-17086827836388609890

[compact leaf]

oh yanbeilong too I forgot that one

[steady rock]

i have a question, would stegosaurids be some of the most common prey animals for the predators they lived with? like ceratopsians and hadrosaurs

[tough parcel]

The baby sauropods in question

[steady rock]

😢

[steady rock]

that one scene in wwd where a stegosaurus killed a baby sauropod

[hardy sentinel]

Probably not, they might have been common but definitely not common prey. We only have proof of Allosaurus failing to kill them I think

[tough parcel]

What would the proof look like of an Allosaurus killing one tho 😭

[hardy sentinel]

no clue, but I am sure some nerd could answer it. All I know is Allo got BODIED by stego (crotch shot and uppercut Allo moment)

[steady rock]

i dont wanna sound dumb but baby sauropods were that abundent? surely later in the season past nesting there would be alot less to hunt

[tough parcel]

Well that’s the reason I say it

It’s easy to find injuries from a Stegosaurus due to the quirky nature of its weaponry, but an Allosaurus winning is going to be feeding and we have a few feeding traces on all Morrison dinosaurs from Allo

[steady rock]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-dinosaurs-allosaurus-the-allosaurus-the-allosaurus-keeps-moving-forward-gif-26771522

[tough parcel]

Considering the Auca Mahuevo site extends about a mile or two, I’d say there would be quite a few babies especially if the parents are making more every other year or so

[compact leaf]

sauropods also pumped out a ton of babies, even if adults were relatively rare

[steady rock]

was it like sea turtles where you just have as many as possible?

[tough parcel]

Yea

As I said, the Auca Mahuevo nesting site is gigantic and while it’s probably due to the sauropods being more “medium” sized, I don’t doubt larger scale sauropods had large nesting sites too

[hardy sentinel]

Yes

It was the morrison formation, how else do you think sauropods got to be so abundant?

[steady rock]

imagine how many babies/eggs a nigersaurus woulkd be having due to its small size and large predators it lived with...

[hardy sentinel]

probably a lot still, sea turtles aren't that big compared to their predators and they still pop out hundereds

[steady rock]

yeah, i was like, trying to imply that it would have alot /nm

[hardy sentinel]

Might also just be a sauropod thing since they all are found mostly with a lot of predators (aside from the island isolated ones)

[steady rock]

would hadrosaurs and ceratopsians be the same way?

[tough parcel]

Hadrosaurs, yes

Ceratopsians? Unknown

[steady rock]

really? i thought we'd have ceratopsian nesting sites

[hardy sentinel]

Depends on the Ceratopsian, Triceratops have at most been found in a group of 5, while Pachyrhinosaurus are known from mass graves

[tough parcel]

Not aware of any ceratopsian nesting sites except maybe Protoceratops?

[steady rock]

well, does protoceratops nesting sites tell us anything abt them?

[compact leaf]

they were weirdos with soft eggs

[hardy sentinel]

Credit: Smithsonian

[little mauve]

We don't have any nesting sites for protoceratops, we have a single nest

[steady rock]

so not good scrambled eggs?

do u think any dinosaurs gave live birth? even just 1?

[little mauve]

Nope

[hardy sentinel]

it's a possibility, snakes and lizards have developed the capability to hatch the eggs inside of themselves. With Dinosaurs being around that long I reckon it could have happened at least once. But evolution is a son of a gun so who knows

[alpine zodiac]

is there any basis for the recons with suuuper long fins on megapterygius ?

[stiff osprey]

Megapterygius means big fin so i'd guess so

[alpine zodiac]

YAAAAYYYY

[sterile trail]

Anyone ever hear of Odobenocetops?

[warped peak]

Yes

[woeful falcon]

as a watcher of Sea Monsters, of course

[steady rock]

in your opinion , do you think picking the cretascous as the most dangerous prehestoric ocean was correct?

[hardy sentinel]

Maybe not

I friggen love Plesiosaurs to Pliosaur evolution 🗣️

[steady rock]

was there ever a time in earths history were Cephalopoda were more abundant then fish?

[frigid delta]

nah fish superior cephalopods inferior

[fluid inlet]

Loved the big fella in this, I will pretend it’s big Willard

[frigid delta]

ok then it's Yoshi vs Willard

[indigo cradle]

Best trike design in media history

[sudden wind]

If you wanna look for a good tree, look for the ones with the less rakes.

[light osprey]

Most well resolved Dromaeosaur phylogeny:

[sudden wind]

Thrug

[open compass]

Anyone has good sizes chart pics of anzu and achero?

[pliant cedar]

unenlagiines

[hushed fossil]

Would these be good for you?

[stiff osprey]

These are too small

[regal girder]

I have always imagined marine dinosaurs giving live birth. I have no evidence to back or other than watching whales.. if they give live birth, I'm almost positive marine dinosaurs possibly did the same.. as for land dinos though, like the commenter says above, we may never know, but from what we have gathered thus far, it's highly unlikely imo.

[cloud dagger]

Marine reptiles

[light osprey]

How much larger could Acheroraptor be

[tough parcel]

We have evidence of marine reptiles (mosasaurs, ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs, even metriorhynchids) giving live birth

[elfin pulsar]

It’s obviously just nursing there 🙄

[umbral kite]

guys u knew how dragon have multiple different from so would they be like d.wyvren and d.sepernt and name like that

[stiff osprey]

2.5m along the centra iirc

bigger than the biggest Velociraptor but smaller than the smallest Deinonychus

[umbral kite]

or this could show them feed there young

but most likely birth becuase it look like it would be eating out of the clawaic that thing bird have or something and i dont think that work

[stiff osprey]

Dragons and wyverns being related doesn't work, unless the wyvern ancestor lost its front pair of legs but kept the back ones for some reason

[umbral kite]

wyvren are dragons though

[thorn grove]

they're fantasy creatures, in a lot of lore they're just summoned by a deity or something, not evolved like real animals

[tough parcel]

I am not aware of any animal that feeds its young poop on a regular basis

[warped peak]

Dragon is a colloquial term, not a phylogenetic one

[stiff osprey]

monster classification doesn't follow real life evolutionary classification

Or what wes said

[warped peak]

Yay I'm cool now

[umbral kite]

are they dragons or not

[thorn grove]

It's different in every fantasy setting so we can't really say

[stiff osprey]

a dragon is whatever the author of the book/show/movie says it is

[tough parcel]

Maybe the real wyverns are the friends we made along the way

[warped peak]

There's no way to tell. A 6 limbed tetrapod breaks all realistic biology

Closest we got is elephants

[umbral kite]

the list of all thpe of dragons

[warped peak]

Albino would not be a genus level distinction

[umbral kite]

if a journy that made lose all ny friend and the new one on the journy and all that was there was the friend we made along the way im burning everything and find the person who buried the treasure

[tough parcel]

I like turtles

[umbral kite]

like crocodile

[regal girder]

Oh snap that's awesome! I literally know nothing but I do love dinosaurs. Lol

[umbral kite]

i found what the genus name for wyren are Ornithovenatora

[thorn grove]

not to be that guy but marine reptiles aren't actually dinosaurs

[stiff osprey]

I find it interesting that out of all branches of reptiles, dinosaurs seem to be the only one that never evolved live birth

Even crocs did with thalattosuchians, but not dinosaurs

[regal girder]

Potato potatoes lol I just said it bc i was thinking about it in the moment, without actually thinking about it or ever looking into it before lol. Probably just should have kept my mouth shut lol

[stiff osprey]

Oh wait i guess turtles didn't either

[tough parcel]

One could argue turtles cheated by retaining the ability to walk on land and dinosaurs were just too based to consider full aquatic

[thorn grove]

It's cool lol nobody is born knowing what prehistoric reptiles are dinosaurs and which aren't

[light osprey]

Why so big

The maxilla didn’t look sig bigger than saurornitho

[stiff osprey]

Most of the posterior end is missing

[light osprey]

So would it be comparable to Atrociraptor’s est length

[velvet burrow]

I'd like to see dragons where the wings aren't an extra set of limbs but another kind of structure

[stiff osprey]

You can try measuring lance's I don't have my computer atm

[velvet burrow]

Like heavily modified and articulated ribs or cartilaginous structures or something

[light osprey]

Lance’s looks like it has a smaller head to body proportion than bricks Saurornitholestes

[stiff osprey]

Tbf isn't that specimen immature?

[light osprey]

Idk

[stiff osprey]

Unrelated but why did Lancian add a complete manus to the skeletal when no part of the manus is preserved? Is he stupid?

[light osprey]

He saw it in the dream

[tough parcel]

Because that's his oldest one

[light osprey]

It looks the same

Scott Hartman has a Saurornitholestes skeletal?

[stiff osprey]

Yeah it's new

[stiff osprey]

New one is smaller, its head reaches the dude's wrist vs almost to the elbow in the old one

[light osprey]

Maybe the dude shrank

[outer tusk]

but can the old one still be used besides it's scaling?

[light osprey]

If you use Lancian’s old Achero your pc will inexplicably explode

[outer tusk]

but but am using my PC right now!

[ripe walrus]

Me enjoying a video that talks about Oxalaia,looks at most recent comments and this pops up.....

EVEN BETTER....

btw shout out for Spino for still being hated on a video thats not about Spinosaurus

[white matrix]

What did the spino do to deserve this lmao 😭

[ripe walrus]

Jp3☝️🤓

[white matrix]

Fair, I forgot about that…

[ripe walrus]

Nah i wasn't using the emoji for you

Its just stupid to hate the whole species bc of a fictional Spinosaurus in a fictional movie

[white matrix]

Yea that’s true, even if not an accurate design it’s a really good design for the movie imo

[ripe walrus]

True my favorite JP design so far

[stiff osprey]

Imagine just minding your own business for 8 million years only for random hairless apes in the far future to hate you because they drew a picture of you killing a T.rex

[white matrix]

They did the giga dirty tho….

[ripe walrus]

Yh true Acrocanthosaurus on Godzilla steroids

[white matrix]

Exactly, I really hoped they would make something better with the giga instead of giving it a deformed crocodile look

[ripe walrus]

Yh but the jurassic world evolution is a better design tho

[white matrix]

The more accurate one? Yea it’s better but I still don’t like the looks of it tbh. I like the design of the Giga mods in pot. They look really good

[ripe walrus]

Yes obviously

[outer tusk]

hello Potians

[lavish frigate]

Correction, they drew a picture of your British cousin with a fin killing one and now everyone hates you

[sudden wind]

..this is very clearly live birthing.

Also, reptiles don't have mammals glands and therefor cannot feed them like that. Ichthyosaurs also are basically built like sharks and probably were capable of surviving on their own after birth so I don't see much why would they take care of their babies.

[fluid inlet]

Bad day for Yoshi

[sterile trail]

Y'all remember this lovely spoon

[ripe walrus]

Nostalgia

One of my favorites wii games

[sterile trail]

This is THE Spinosaurus, no objections

[wary heath]

This invokes a memory I've never had.

[ripe walrus]

Tbh the design of Spike is kinda ugly but its still better than primeval

[wary heath]

Where is that spino from?

[ripe walrus]

Jurassic the hunted

[mortal jungle]

We stand for the flag and kneel for walking with cavemen

[honest cobalt]

Poor zeb

Is it zeb or zed? I can’t remember

[honest cobalt]

Love that game

[tough parcel]

What

[stiff osprey]

The day people find out there were never long legged Spinosaurus society will collapse

[ripe walrus]

I love my short legs spino

[tough parcel]

I am aware, I'm just confused why you're essentially headcanoning something not published yet

Then you have a poor choice of words

[sudden wind]

Iirc the crest is really really tall so not really. Also this thing has too long legs and the tail is probably too short. Arms are maybe too beefy too.

[woeful falcon]

Art is also older than the abstract about the new Spinosaurus lol

Well, older than it was made public that is

Then why attribute the new Spinosaurus to it

[sudden wind]

I do wonder if these are just tad visually or significantly (can just be like only 5% more lol)

[woeful falcon]

Deleting bc I said something dumb without realizing

But anyway yeah, "somewhat longer" hind limbs is how they describe it

[tough parcel]

Don't think anyone's upset, just confused which I already noted

[woeful falcon]

No ones upset. It's just this is paleo chat and it's evidently very easy to spread misinformation, intended or not haha

[sudden wind]

^

[woeful falcon]

Since the abstract wasn't so definitive, I reckon the hind limbs are only partially recovered

[tough parcel]

If they are entirely recovered, I say we witchhunt Blub

[woeful falcon]

...

[tough parcel]

I don't make the rules

[outer tusk]

he is

[ripe walrus]

Who?

[outer tusk]

you!

what

[iron halo]

what

[ripe walrus]

My fav Tyrannosaur

[outer tusk]

what

[minor thistle]

What specific animals would have lived in the mesozoic deep sea (lower midnight zone and below)

[indigo cradle]

He's saying spinosaurus is long legged

[ripe walrus]

Bro i can't no more 💀

[sterile trail]

💀

[sterile trail]

I like my Tyrannosauroid Yutyrannus

[ripe walrus]

Thats an awsome tyrannosauroid

[sterile trail]

Biggest confirmed feathered dino

[ripe walrus]

Yep

[sterile trail]

We're not entirely sure about Deinocheirus though. It was bigger and related to our favorite long necked chicken, the Struthiomimus

[ripe walrus]

One Day i will get my hands on the Beasts of the mesozoic yuty and alberto i swear

[ripe walrus]

Yh thats also true

[fluid inlet]

https://x.com/tm9380/status/1868277450674786470?s=46

Taylor McCoy 🦖 (@TM9380) on X

At an estimated 10 meters in length and nearly 19 tons in weight, Sachicasaurus is among the largest known pliosaurs. This powerful marine predator would’ve been top of the food chain…

Twitter · Dec 15, 2024, 12:50 PM

[ripe walrus]

19 TONS thats HUGE

[fluid inlet]

17 tons but still cooks Deinosuchus

[ripe walrus]

I mean thats still huge but why the Deinosuchus part tho

[fluid inlet]

Unlocked a memory in my brain of seeing people say Deinosuchus would kill it if they interacted

[ripe walrus]

Ah

Inaccurate skeleton and lenght sadly but cool teeths

Tho its weird its Says Spinosaur instead of Spinosaurus

[open compass]

Thanks but what about anzu? Was it that huge?

[elder valve]

I mean likely the Anzu wyliei, was quite large compared to other oviraptorosaurs I think the Anzu could grow up to 3-4 meters which is 10-13 feet in length and stand nearly as tall as an average adult human. Its size was impressive for a theropod of its kind.

[stiff osprey]

that seems to be using the large tibia specimen, which isn't confirmed to be Anzu

unironically short of making one myself this was the best size comparison i could find

[light osprey]

Perhaps the Anzu being such a hellish creature would occasionally feed upon the egg, due to its omnivorous nature

[elder valve]

True

[stiff osprey]

I don't know, spawn killing was probably against the rules

[river plinth]

We don't speak of such heraicy shame on you

[ripe walrus]

Ah yes the famous fire breathing Parasaurolophus

[ripe walrus]

"Therizinosaurus"

[river plinth]

Methrozinosarus

[halcyon cobalt]

Isn’t the guy who made that dead?

[ripe walrus]

idk

[halcyon cobalt]

it’s a fine reconstruction anyways

better than full coated theri

[frigid delta]

DINORAUL IS DEAD?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

[abstract flame]

Anyone knows a good dinosaurs books, like with reliable information, official information about dinosaurs and where they lived and that stuff? Like scientifically accurate books?

[fluid inlet]

Sorry bro https://youtu.be/o8r3qfRQzJw?si=M3H0rzL_vWExeudy

[frigid delta]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-black-guy-gif-25962626

[fair cypress]

Rest in peace Dinoraul

[outer tusk]

what were some formation that might've had the high likelihood of wild fires?

[ionic crescent]

It's been 5 years almost iirc

[pliant cedar]

cassowary on steroids

[elder valve]

Pretty much lol

[pliant cedar]

probably had a similar niche as well

[pliant cedar]

i feel like people dont accept naked theri not because its inaccurate but because it looks atriocious

[outer tusk]

It's not even inaccurate ( **since we don't have evidences for feathers besides basal or related members for reference ), also it's NOT atrocious it's PEAK

[pliant cedar]

i hate it
i hate the fact that this thing exists

[calm agate]

The Chased By Dinosaurs Theri is an absolute treasure with wonderful sounds and is about the only Theri in media to get its horrifying foot claws right

[tough parcel]

A take I will 100% agree with, CBD Theri is god-tier

[umbral kite]

this thing huant ny dreams

[outer tusk]

What phylogeny is pyroraptor place in?

[tough parcel]

Probably because of evolution

[light osprey]

We don’t have evidence for feathered Therizinosaurs except the Therizinosaur with feather impressions

[outer tusk]

^

[patent mist]

to be fair to the bald side, beipiaosaurus is a baby and also around the size of a golden retriever while theri is considerably larger.
It's very possible theri could have lost a lot of feathers due to thermoregulatory reasons. (it is built like a barrel)
That being said, Nemegt is a swamp/ desert that got really cold from what I've heard, so maybe it was feathered 🤷‍♀️
we just don't really know for certain

[mortal jungle]

Don’t you talk about my son like that again

[placid knot]

Does anyone have a bite force comparison for sachicasaurus and deinosuchus? 😳 👉 👈

[primal ice]

Deinosuchus (20,000 PSI) sachicasaurus 33,000 psi I think

[tough parcel]

Where did these come from

[primal ice]

Dk ask Google

[stiff osprey]

The best bite force estimate I've seen for Deinosuchus in the literature is ~102000 newtons, which imo is too high but the others are all way too low

Sachicasaurus doesn't have a published bite force estimate

[pliant cedar]

unenlagiinae as of late iirc

[outer tusk]

Is it because that estimate is well over the animal's size?

[tacit pine]

I think sachi might have had a decent bite force for a pliosaur

[stiff osprey]

no, their Deinosuchus is actually only 3 t, but somehow they produced an equation that gets absurdly high results for larger animals (an 8 t one would be a bite force of like 240 kN, which would destroy its own skull)

[warped peak]

LOL?

[umbral kite]

how do u even determine the how storng it bite force is

[stiff osprey]

102 kN is at least kinda close to what you get by simply scaling a saltwater crocodile up to deinosuchus size

[stiff osprey]

you measure the bite force of living crocodylians and scale them up to the size of Deinosuchus, assuming similar muscle composition and strength (which is fair since Deinosuchus is a crocodylian)

[warped peak]

Always remember to account for muscle strength falloff

[sudden wind]

Has any studies have actually established a relation between croc bit force/body size?

[white matrix]

Any modern animals that have fur/feathers at birth and lose them in adulthood to back up the feathered baby dinos theory?
Or any fossil evidence for scaly species' babies being feathered?

[warped peak]

Elephants somewhat

[sudden wind]

I don't think there is.

[white matrix]

So it's 100% speculative?

[tacit pine]

💀

[white matrix]

Okay, this counts

[zealous ravine]

Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t some cetaceans born with very sparse fur?

[pliant cedar]

pigs?
or does it just lose melanin

[sudden wind]

Elephants dont really loose their hairs AFAIK. They just gain volume and then it just become sparser.

[warped peak]

Close enough to work for the comparison here

[pliant cedar]

somewhat

[sudden wind]

Maybe just some apes go through that (humans and chimps) which is hair loss with aging.

[stiff osprey]

The hypothesis isn't that they were completely feathered as babies and completely scaly as adults, that was never in question. But that adults would have sparser feathering matches what you see in elephants (only exaggerated because dinosaur babies are born much smaller)

[pliant cedar]

considering the environment it lived it I imagine it would be similar to elephants

[stiff osprey]

Imo this also only applies to animals with recent feathered ancestors, like tyrannosaurids. We have skin impressions from baby titanosaurs and hadrosaurs, there's no feathers there

[minor thistle]

omg baby ostrich?

[light osprey]

The environment is pretty dissimilar to most modern elephantoid distribution

[pliant cedar]

there arent really any good megafaunal examples today

[light osprey]

This has much more to do with “gigantothermy” than the climate

[light osprey]

Asian elephants definitely shed body hair through ontogeny

[pliant cedar]

and most megafauna alive today live in hot environments...
this sucks 😭

[light osprey]

The tyrant lizard was perhaps much like the bison bison

[umbral kite]

bby theris?

[pliant cedar]

dont bison live in temperate and cold environments

[umbral kite]

also i thought deinosuchus was more camen then crocodile

[light osprey]

They are historically distributed across all of the U.S.

[pliant cedar]

fair

[pliant cedar]

it was at the base of the superfamily, and wasnt that closely related to either
i think ur talking about purussaurus, which was related to caimen

[wary junco]

Random said crocodylians, not crocodiles, which encompasses all three superfamilies (Crocodyloidea, Gavialoidea and Alligatoroidea). Deinosuchus sits as a basal alligatoroid, so whilst it's closer related to alligators and caimans than it is to crocodiles, it isn't particular close to them either. As the person above noted you may be thinking of Purussaurus which is literally a caiman as it's part of Caimaninae.

[elder valve]

You know what’s crazy the T Rexes bite is considered venomous due to the high amounts of bacteria that would’ve produced in there mouths so if the bite didn’t kill the victim the bacterial infection would

[ivory viper]

Hi

[little mauve]

That's unfortunately a dubious paleomeme based on a misconception about komodo dragons

[pliant cedar]

this could be applied to literally any predator
animals clean their teeth regularly, either through drinking water or licking

the whole bacteria festering in mouth was likely vary rare, even if it did occur at all

[wind prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[elder valve]

Well yeah but I was jus a reading article about it

[wary junco]

from how long ago?

[elder valve]

Bout a year ago

[pliant cedar]

and venom is caused by a specific group of proteins
if the animal doesnt produce those, its just nasty not venomous

[ivory viper]

Guys is this W
Strongest theropods
1 t.rex
2 giga
3 carcha
4 spino/mapu
5 mrex
6 t.titan
7 Zrex
8 tarbo
9 snax
10 deinoc

[pliant cedar]

tyrannotitan, zrex, tarbo, deinocheirus, mapu could all beat a spino, put it down
snax isnt that large, thats only using one very unreliable estimate from a single specimen

and mcraeensis was only slightly smaller than rex, it should be number 2

[ivory viper]

Carchar Is ok?

Isnt mcraensis downsized like 6.9-7.5t iirc

[pliant cedar]

oh, if so tehn thats fair

[viscid surge]

Dawg

[ivory viper]

Ig carchar fine over mapu but Its extreme diff

[stiff osprey]

Bro really said Deinocheirus beats Spino based on its greater strength

[ivory viper]

W?

[pliant cedar]

less robust, similar sizes

[stiff osprey]

Having a deep torso is not going to make it a better fighter, it doesn't have any teeth and its claws are subject to the same limitations as Spino's

[light osprey]

The maniraptoran cunning

[ivory viper]

Spino imo slams mid diffs
Mid high at max
Deinocheirus Isnt strong
I think spino have more muscular arms And overall muscular Animal but idek

[pliant cedar]

how do we know it had more muscular arms
it has more reach with its arms, especially considering spoons posture.
and being thicker makes it harder to knock down

[ivory viper]

I think it cause deinoc is kinda bad in fight
Idk if Its true but ig we have some Proof about tarbo kill deinoc iirc

[pliant cedar]

tarbo is tarbo tho, they are built for killing large game

[stiff osprey]

Both animals can only reach underneath their bodies and to the sides a bit, like any other theropod. Having shorter legs makes animals more stable due to their lower center of gravity. And while neither has strong evidence of muscular arms, the humerus attributed to Spinosaurus is much more robust than Deinocheirus's

[pliant cedar]

oh fair

[ivory viper]

I dont rlly think 5t slams 8t since spino is overall taller i think more Durable better weapons etc

[wind prairie]

just another case of people underplaying spino just because jp3 spino isn't accurate

[stiff osprey]

Of course if they met Deinocheirus would probably just leave, since it's much more cursorial than Spinosaurus

[tulip gyro]

its more related to alligators and caimans than to crocodiles

[ivory viper]

Yea i think too

[pliant cedar]

i thought duck was 8 tons

[stiff osprey]

both are ~8t at maximum

[ivory viper]

What it change since deinoc prob use just arms in fight i think spino can use the bite Is not that so weeak

[stiff osprey]

If it was a 5 tonne Spino vs 8 tonne Deinocherius then I'd probably favor the Deinocheirus, mass is the most important factor in a fight

[outer tusk]

I think deinocherius wins because I like it more, and that means am right

[pliant cedar]

the bite wasnt that strong for a megatheropod, but it was strong compared to like a human or smth

[ivory viper]

I think both get slammed by carchagoat

[outer tusk]

All of them are megalodon victims

[pliant cedar]

carchar beats both, duck low dif spino mid dif

[stiff osprey]

I could beat megalodon low diff by standing 5 feet away from the shore while it suffocated

[ivory viper]

I think at spino could argue about diff since both same range sized
I think realistically high diff may

[light osprey]

The dimwitted fish?

[pliant cedar]

leave meg in a pond without food for 3 days, watch it die

[stiff osprey]

It would only be low diff because I'd feel sad watching a shark suffocate and take emotional damage

[ripe walrus]

I eat all of them yum yum

[pliant cedar]

decomposing big megs probably exploded like whales

if u stood there for several weeks it could take you with it

[outer tusk]

Hey randomdinos is it plausible Tharosaurus could've met a large spinosaur in size to suchomimus?

[ivory viper]

All got slammed by carnage

[stiff osprey]

That depends on what a Tharosaurus is, I've never heard of it

[pliant cedar]

indian sauropod

[pliant cedar]

right whale kills carnage low dif

[ivory viper]

What he doing 😭

[pliant cedar]

have there been any studies on how loud marine reptiles weere

[crystal dock]

Middle-Late Jurassic direacosaurid from India

[stiff osprey]

That's way too early for a giant spinosaurid

[woeful falcon]

The great spinosaurid ghost lineage...

[stiff osprey]

There is a possible spinosaurid from that same time and place but afaik it was tiny, and middle jurassic spinosaurs probably would've looked very different from middle cretaceous ones

[primal ice]

Mcraensis I think was bigger idk never read Mcraensis paper

[ivory viper]

I see just it got downsize

[primal ice]

Don't see anything about mcraensis down size you sure

[umbral kite]

Ok so y dont we just use the estimated weight of deinosuchus then the bite force of A alligator then multiple it by the wieght of the deinosucheus to get it bite force

[warped peak]

Except it's not quite that simple

[primal ice]

Ya really not simple

[stiff osprey]

It is almost that simple, but muscle power scales with muscle area, not muscle volume. You'd have to divide the mass of Deinosuchus by that of Alligator, then elevate that by 2/3 (I don't really know the term for ''^'' in english), as area scales to the second power while volume scales to the third. Then multiply the bite force of Alligator by the result

[primal ice]

Why is tarbo last of zhuch tarbo bigger then zhuch by standards plus they should also beat spino

[ivory viper]

I don't think so
But yeah tarbo May bigger
Since zhuch Is 3-4.5t
But still i believe in 5.8t zrex

[warped peak]

Can we not power scale theropods lmao

[primal ice]

Ya

[primal ice]

Still tarbo is still bigger as much you may think zhuch is bigger it's definitely not

[ivory viper]

I say yes
Zhuch is 3-4.5t
Depends if we could still use 5.8t zrex

[outer tusk]

oh okay but can't I still keep it but just can't consider it as accurate

[stiff osprey]

i mean you can do that with anything really

[outer tusk]

okay just wanted your take on it since yk you're very informal on these things yk

[primal ice]

10 metres (33 ft) long, 3 metres (9.8 ft) tall at the hips, and weighing up to 4.5–5 metric tons (5.0–5.4 short tons) specimen PIN 551–1 measuring approximately 10 metres (33 ft) long, 3 metres (9.8 ft) tall at the hips, and weighing up to 4.5–5 metric tons (5.0–5.5 short tons). Zhuchengtyrannus 11 m (36 ft) in length and 4 metres (13 ft) in height.

[outer tusk]

the larger 5 ton estimate is from a verbrata

[light osprey]

How does the indomitable Jenghizkhan stack up to these foes

[outer tusk]

Jenghizkhan is sigma

[pseudo harbor]

So is saurophaganax actually a sauropod now

[outer tusk]

yes

[pseudo harbor]

Neat

[umbral kite]

uh huh

also that theory that pachy head but doesnt quite work they get brain damage instead they did this

[viscid surge]

I find this theory to be the most compelling tbh

[slender sphinx]

What about the one where a para could breath fire

[sudden wind]

Venom means that your animal is producing a toxin via a special organ, which is a toxin gland. A toxin is a protein that binds to membrane receptors and induce or inhibit reactions (anyway they have a consequence on the organism).

Bacteria aren't proteins : they are complete organisms that do produce proteins. What happens with an infection is that whole organisms (or viruses) come within your body and release said toxins, which will have consequences due to inflammatory reactions.
So, no, Tyrannosaurus wouldn't be venomous because it got bacteria in its mouth (as bacteria produce toxins).

[slender sphinx]

Now I see why your pfp is crying

[sudden wind]

Yes, I am a biology student !
(I currently am in my final's week and I had a molecular biology exam today)

PS : I did not cook

[stiff osprey]

if we counted bacterial infections as venom then humans would be venomous, since our mouths have more bacteria than a lot of animals

[outer tusk]

💀

[slender sphinx]

I mean if you bite someone and it pierces through their skin they can get extreme infection

[sudden wind]

They literally asked me to remember every molecules responsible for some biological processes like the initiation of translation, which I just remembered the steps lol. Same for DNA and histone methylation as well as splicing (which I may have remembered ok ?).

[slender sphinx]

Huh

[outer tusk]

yeah it's called herpes

[sudden wind]

Yeah but it isn't caused by a venom we produce ourselves. Also an infection is just when an organism enters your body so venom doesn't count as an infection.

[pliant cedar]

i am venomous, idk bout yall

bit my neighbour and he started foaming at the mouth

[stiff osprey]

Oh I didn't know that was what english actually called it

[viscid surge]

Dawg

[pliant cedar]

what kind of dangerous concoction is this??

[slender sphinx]

I premiumly guessed this

[stiff osprey]

but yes herpes can be sexually transmitted but it can also be through any kind of bodily fluid contact or skin contact

[viscid surge]

Eyes????????

[slender sphinx]

Rabies spreader

[broken shale]

interesting chat going on in here

[cerulean hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXZhKHCak3Q
Short Documentary

[jagged trellis]

spinosaurus is high solar system remember

[cloud badger]

No I have to make my theropod leaner and cooler and edgier for awesome edits on tiktok

[river plinth]

Camptosaurus is universal level

[zealous ravine]

^ would be “to the power of [exponent]” or “to the [exponent] power”, the exponent being the number after the ^

[frigid delta]

oversized Dilo?

[zealous ravine]

Idk about the weight but the length seems pretty undersized, Random’s skeletal has the max length at 7.3 meters

Though that is in part because it is very long lol

[outer tusk]

dilo is 670kg based on thsi speicmen

[zealous ravine]

K, so oversized weight and undersized length lol

[outer tusk]

which is wild

[jagged trellis]

mcdonalds dilo

[stiff osprey]

Considering the Carnivores dinos are literally aliens i wouldn't worry about whether their size matches real dinosaurs

[ripe walrus]

I think they are ok but in this game the weight doesn't make sense like theres an allo size spino that weighs 11 tons

Its even smaller than an allo NVM lol

[stiff osprey]

must be made of osmium

[ripe walrus]

Lol

[frigid delta]

i'd say that smol spino is an unmodded vanilla size
anyway

[ripe walrus]

Thats better atleast it fits more the 11 tons info

[frigid delta]

yet another

[ripe walrus]

Damn

When i was a kid i used to play carnivores hd on my ipod and i used to get jumpscared by a random Spino or Raptor that wasn't on my hunting list

[frigid delta]

ambience dinos

[ripe walrus]

Ah yes ofc

[frigid delta]

that's how they're coded

[indigo cradle]

A rather smart gorilla

[wraith kindle]

Why was that neccesary?

[tough parcel]

Read the 3 messages above the image

[lavish frigate]

Was NOT prepared to scroll up and see that

[frigid delta]

absolute cinema ✋😐🤚

[honest cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-looking-up-scared-among-us-gif-27315085

[indigo cradle]

Reading comprehension is unfortunately a commodity these days

[frigid delta]

NOOOOO IT GOT DELETED

[orchid rain]

Hi

[snow python]

Wasn't Suchomimus the largest carnivore in its ecosystem?

[frigid delta]

Elrhaz?
yes

[umbral kite]

that a lie it use super sonic beam to attacks not fire breath

[pliant cedar]

could quetz actually punch?

[wraith kindle]

In the same way humans do? Doubt it.

[umbral kite]

plus i think i may break it wing or claw or hand idk wat u call

[flat pond]

Dan revisiting Thyreo

The old one that he did

[bitter quest]

We will never know how it looks until more information found on them

[west coral]

lump it with spico and adrat

[pliant cedar]

like the way that pt portrays it

[slender sphinx]

Imagine they end up disliking each other because of one's lack of plates

[minor thistle]

dino ableism 😭

[slender sphinx]

Its just nature

[sterile trail]

2nd one superior

The first one looks naked 😭

[silver canopy]

Do we know what direction thylacosmilus's pouch faced?

Was it like more traditional marsupials or more like tasmanian tiger/devils where it faces backwards?

[steady rock]

whatever happened to that barrel shaped dinosaur that was spikey? i forgot its name

[warped peak]

Spicomellus(?)

[umbral kite]

i believe torvo should be hunted and killed on sight but we dont always do what we want

[steady smelt]

How heavy IS bars?

[fluid inlet]

50 tons

[granite yoke]

still cant believe how heavy some dinosaurs are lol, like cerato is over 1 ton??

[fluid inlet]

Blue whale think that’s light weight on a bad day.

[wary heath]

Probably backwards

I like imagining what kind of mammals lived in antarctica

[steady rock]

it was!!

[silver canopy]

Makes most sense for fully quadruped carnivorous marsupials, so you aren't thawcking your kid in the face with branches and viscera when you hunt

[light osprey]

No need to imagine, La Meseta preserves plenty of terrestrial mammals

[alpine zodiac]

anybody have any good info on mosasaur musculature?

[outer tusk]

8t

[steady rock]

whats musculature?

uh, would this help at all? https://www.deviantart.com/macrophyseter/art/Mosasaurus-hoffmannii-head-musculature-study-824232408

[halcyon cobalt]

the muscles and such

[wraith kindle]

I know wombats have it facing backwards, but they're also burrowers. Not really sure about other quad marsupials, wouldn't be hard to look up though.

IIRC, in Dougal Dixons After Man speculative evolution, there was an arboreal marsupial with pouches on the sides. I don't know how evolveable that is. Would have to also involve the teats splitting and migrating though.

[cerulean hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mLrWWkSE1I

[wary heath]

What would've been the biggest rival of spinosaurus?

[steady rock]

https://tenor.com/view/spinosaurus-dinosaur-slap-gif-25074058

[pseudo harbor]

Carchar

[thorn grove]

god that doc was so bad lmao

[steady rock]

does it even count as a doc?

[thorn grove]

fair lol

[fluid inlet]

A Neanderthal would tare you limb from limb.

[silver canopy]

Both tasmanian tigers and devils have pouches that face backwards, right?

[wraith kindle]

I haven't checked, so, I don't know.

[silver canopy]

I know tasmanian tigers did

And Im fairly certain devils do

[sudden wind]

Idk maybe another giant Spinosaurine for their ecological niche

[steady rock]

could a neanderthal beat a gorilla

[silver canopy]

No.

[warped peak]

Neanderthals are just slightly shorter people who were more rotund with a big nose basically

[jagged trellis]

Now could a neanderthal in a mech suit beat a gorilla in a mech suit is the real question

[silver canopy]

Considering It would be a mech suite built to the dimensions of a gorilla, no.

[jagged trellis]

Thats if its gorilla built, both can be twig built, even body wise there, just for the mind now

[tulip gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-to-fight-volkanovski-alexander-ufc-ready-gif-577275675004620138

[orchid rain]

This is a paleotology server

[dusty hollow]

I read an article about how T-rex can get bacteria on their teeth which they get from eating dead animals and when they bite down with this bacteria it can lead to infections to the receiver. Is this true? ( Sorry if my grammar sucks)

[silver canopy]

Very outdated

[dusty hollow]

What the article?

[sharp dragon]

Don't really need that when you have like, the strongest jaws of any land animal (if not any animal to date)

[dusty hollow]

true

But it could be a cool ability for the game.

[silver canopy]

What's y'all favorite fossil? this one is mine

[jagged trellis]

technically yes
thing is that applies to most other animals

[fluid inlet]

It’s not one of dinosaurs bud, the Triassic hug

[sterile trail]

Big Al, all the way

[sharp dragon]

Every Deinocheirus Mirificus fossil

[half lodge]

We sinoceratops

[velvet burrow]

It is as true for Tyrannosaurus as it is for pretty much every meat eating animal (including humans)

[steady rock]

i will test that theory in 2 buisness days

[thorn grove]

I hate how hadrosaur tails look when viewed top down

[fluid inlet]

I love it

[zealous ravine]

Psittacosaurus sp. The really well preserved one

[storm heron]

The Fighting Dinos

[indigo cradle]

Amazing

[molten moss]

Just wanna show this carnotaurus fossil

[indigo cradle]

P sick reconstruction

[drowsy venture]

What would a Dromeosaur taste like?

[tough parcel]

Bad

[drowsy venture]

I mean predatory animals taste horribly

Tier list taste

Utahraptor: Filled with ammonia and probably tastes extremely bad.
Deinonychus: Same thing with Utahraptor.
Velociraptor: Probably tastes like an average turkey or chicken.
Microraptor: Similar to a chicken and possibly tastes good.

[tough parcel]

.

And considering hawks taste horrible, I don't see why Velociraptor/Microraptor are exempt

[lofty creek]

wtf

[keen mauve]

Got the same bro. Its absolutely awsome

[silver canopy]

Gators aren't awful from what I've heard

Dinosaurs like celeo might not be awful

[primal ice]

Ya I had gator food before that's stuff tastes good man

[umbral kite]

guys do u think some dino had vemon

[warped peak]

Physiologically? Almost guaranteed it happened once. We just don't have any fossils proving it or remotely implying it.

[umbral kite]

guys if u eat a scorpion hole like just swallow it and in ur stomach it sting u is that vemon or poison

[stiff osprey]

venom, since it was delivered via sting

[umbral kite]

but u ate it and the vemon was released in ur stomach

[tough parcel]

It was delivered through stinging, not through consumption

[umbral kite]

how it get in to the stomach

[silver canopy]

Because you ate a living scorpion?

[stiff osprey]

Venom is a toxin that is delivered by a specialized structure, a scorpion's stinger is a specialized structure, independent of where it is

it would be poison if you digested the scorpion and then got sick

[silver canopy]

Like if you eat a scorpion whole it's gonna sting your insides.

[umbral kite]

wat if does fossil where just the teeth of a animal and not the shell of one

[thorn grove]

then you have fossil teeth

[sterile trail]

Why tf is Allo in Ceratosauria

[patent mist]

Might be being used as an outgroup?

[velvet burrow]

https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ar.25612

Longrich getting ratioed, you love to see that

[cloud badger]

not just that neathertals have comparatively shorter spine and fore arms and lower limbs
But their arms while shorter were over all proportionally longer than modern humans basically making the neathertal the ideal deadlifter

[cloud badger]

I mean not always
Eagles apparently tastes fishy and owls like chicken but with less meat apparently
Geese and ducks do tase great better than chicken at least
Chicken when given the opportunity to get high level of proteins and grow normally taste amazing comparatively to the one you buy at store (probably due normal growth rate and access to essential nutrients in high quantity from meats of arthropods)penguins taste fishy Wich is expected
Ostriches taste like beef Wich seems weird till you realize they eat the same things as cows
Other than that perdrix is my number one personally even tho they don't have much meat and is apparently is in peoples top five wich is understandable really strong flavor
Pigeon have a STRONG flavor Wich can be rather unexpected I've tasted them and when people say they taste gamey they were NOT joking
It seems to le that prédation doesn't equate bad taste and is more related to the activity of such creatures and also their diet generally it seems more activity equals stronger taste and eating fish result in tasting like fish
Velociraptor probably tasted like chicken if it hunted on short burst but if it did longer hardier effort it'll be closer to pigeon or something

[fluid inlet]

You know ball.

[cloud badger]

Wich ball?

[fluid inlet]

Neanderthal ball.

[cloud badger]

Yeah I know sad he only had 1 ball

Googled the expression and I'm so dumb I thought it meant an actual ball
Which really goes to show that I only know ball

[fluid inlet]

https://animals.howstuffworks.com/dinosaurs/patagotitan.htm

[zealous ravine]

Mfw Argent was prolly bigger lmao

[river plinth]

Yes without a doubt which ones? We can never know but some for sure did

[river plinth]

I'm pretty sure most dinos would just taste like today's meats so yeah ypu have a point

[jagged trellis]

lore accurate pre cooked whopper

[umbral kite]

🤢

[fluid inlet]

Love it.

[hushed fossil]

What dinosaurs could chew?

[woeful falcon]

Ornithopods, though idk how far stretched chewing was for the clade

[rough mural]

The Amphicoelias was renamed to Maraapunisaurus btw, is this accurate?

[thorn grove]

Hadrosauriformes, maybe some earlier ornithopods, some ceratopsians

[hushed fossil]

Thank you very much

[rough mural]

?

[warped peak]

No. Amphicoelias changed dramatically when it was shrunk. Bruhathkay is neglible to say the least.

The other 3 are about correct though

[rough mural]

Yeah bruhathkayosaurus is likely valid

[stiff osprey]

Baro isn't right either, the proportions are way off

[loud wing]

Weird question, but is there a site for fossil photos where one can search any extinct animal and see all its specimens?

[indigo cradle]

If not then there should be

[flat pond]

BotM Stego looks real good

[worn star]

Did I got banned? It doesn’t let me play with any carnivore but it did let me play with the amargasaurus.( sorry for the wrong channel didn’t know where else to put it)

[honest cobalt]

Hey! No you are not banned. This is an intended feature to make sure characters are not in a previous server

It caused a bug a while back, so they implemented this

[fluid inlet]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-squirrels-are-eating-another-rodent-for-the-first-time-new-study-finds/ar-AA1w6m3a?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=4dcf732a0d544b4cb5ad916e6523e54d&ei=12

[pliant cedar]

dont rodents regularly eat other rodents

[tranquil quartz]

As a rodent I confirm

[sharp dragon]

But you're an ape silly

[halcyon cobalt]

racism…

[sharp dragon]

Silence inferior mammal, the big bird is a squawkin'

[halcyon cobalt]

clueless avian 😹😹 how are those fused vertebrae doing for you? The superior mammalian flexibility could never

[storm heron]

Pffft

[astral oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/omanyte-pokemon-crawling-shades-sunglasses-gif-13815907

[sharp dragon]

If only your kind could ever achieve the sheer diversity and majesty that we have and continue to do so. For Cheist's sake, mammals can't even get to the size of the grandest sauropods without evolving in water.
If only you had air sacs and hollow bones... if only...

Cats are an exception, they are wonderful.

[pliant cedar]

do you guys think didelphodon could break a human femur

[light osprey]

No

[halcyon cobalt]

😴😴😴 you feathas are all size no bite. pound for pound the humble shrew is mightier than even the largest saurians

[elder valve]

I mean most definitely , a Dilophosaurus could definitely break a human femur. The human femur can withstand about 1,700 pounds of force, and while the Dilo’s bite force wasn’t as strong as something like a T. rex, it was still powerful enough to snap bone, especially with its sharp, serrated teeth and size about 20 feet long and 1,000 pounds. Even if its bite force alone didn’t do it, it could easily use leverage or repeated pressure to break the bone considering they were somewhat smart creatures

Honestly I’d like to dive in on why Rexy from JP-JWD is not the typical silent Rex we all know and love

Because the padding on her feet was evident though I think she didn’t know how to use it due to being raised in captivity

And I’ll give further reasoning in her bite force etc if anyone’s interested

[umbral kite]

here a counter just stomp it head in so it dorsnt bite u

[elder valve]

Yeah but the Dilo was 6 feet tall 20 feet long from head to toe and weighed roughly 900 pounds you are not stopping that thing from getting you bro

[warped peak]

(They said Didelphodon, not Dilophosaurus)

[elder valve]

Oooooh

[elder valve]

I apologize lol

[elder valve]

Hold on lemme go to my notes rq I might have some research done on this little guy

[warped peak]

He's an AI in PoT and an early marsupial apparently

[umbral kite]

how amny og those can u take in a fight

[elder valve]

After searching my friend I have found the folder with the correct specie

Would you like me to ss the info or type it out here it’s a long note

Here you go my friends read at your own will

I have one on the Giganotosaurus the Tyrannosaurus Rex and Spinosaurus the Sarcosuchus, Carnotaurus, Utahraptor, and last but not least a Tarbosaurus and a Allosaurus and a couple herbivore’s Ankylosaurus, Apatosaurus Brontosaurus a Triceratops even a Stegosaurus and Therinzosaur

[elder valve]

Well even 3 fully grown Didel’s can take a fully grown human down

[light osprey]

Even if it has a high bite force relative to size there’s no way an otter-sized predator could break a femur.
2kg minimum size for adult Didelphodon is for sure wrong. Our smaller young adult skull is still almost 10cm long

[elder valve]

Well I said if the femur wasn’t encased in the muscle and skin it could break the bone itself

[warped peak]

I'm not sure if you know how strong a human Femur is

[elder valve]

I’m aware it can withstand 1700 pounds of pressure so maybe I could be wrong but all in all it’s still a dangerous creature regardless if it could break a femur

[warped peak]

It's a small possum

[light osprey]

It would be on the larger end of Opossum sizes

[indigo cradle]

Big possom ain't a threat

[wraith kindle]

Possums don’t have that high bite force either.

[pliant cedar]

didelphodon was a metatherian mammal from the hell creek formation
i think u got confused

[elder valve]

Yeah sorry lol

[pliant cedar]

it could probably break one if given time to gnaw on it, but not a live human

[elder valve]

Yeah that’s what I meant in my notes I just worded it wrong apologies for the mistake

[pliant cedar]

i dont think just calling it a possum is fair tho, it had way more powerful jaws
it would be like calling a hyena a big civet

[sterile trail]

I'd say It's a midway fight between a Didelphodon and a Human

Though humans may have the edge

[pliant cedar]

we would destroy a didelphodon in a fight
it was like 5 kilos, even if it could bite our femur, we could literally just stomp it to death

[warped peak]

Man vs a small dog

[umbral kite]

so how many do u think u could beat

[wraith kindle]

Are we talking about with or without tools? A gun is an insta win obviously.

[elfin pulsar]

With or without tools it’s a win

[wraith kindle]

Those teeth would definetly tear your hand apart though.

[tough parcel]

Not much we can do against a gun, yea 😔

[sterile trail]

At least one

[velvet burrow]

Absolute win

You will lose fingers though... or a hand

[steady rock]

what pokefossil is the most accurate to the prehestoric creature its based on?

[stiff osprey]

probably anorith or omanyte

[vapid ginkgo]

Kabuto

[small geyser]

Kabuto my beloved

[warped peak]

Ramparts is also pretty close. Although I'd probably see Lileep is the closest

[elfin pulsar]

Yeah I think cranidos is p close

[warped peak]

Tbh most of them are reasonably close, bar Aurorus and Kabutops

Omanyte, Omastar, Kabuto, Anorith, Armaldo, Lileep, Cradily, Shieldon, Bastiodon, Cranidos, Rampardos, Tirtouga, Carracosta, Archen, Archeops are all pretty close to their base animal

Tyrant and Tyrantrum aren't very far either

[wary heath]

This lived with dinosaurs?

[warped peak]

Yep

[wraith kindle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didelphodon Yes, lived right at the end.

[light osprey]

The mighty Didelphodon competes with the lowly Champsosaur for dominance of the rivers….

[gloomy cargo]

Okay, so are we talking fit humans vs Didelphodon, or an average modern human that would probably lose to a cat?

[wraith kindle]

Are we talking about housecat here? Because they're about cat sized, small housecat maybe.

[gloomy cargo]

Yes. I figured didelphodon could eat a cat, sooooo mostly a joke

Because I, personally, would probably lose a fight to a didelphodon

[pliant cedar]

the average human could kill a cat, we are held back by our affection only

[cloud badger]

Wrong the average cat dogwalks a human according to TikTok vs

[pliant cedar]

like the lion beats tiger crowd

like if you just see the prey that each tackles you will know its not a contest

[cloud badger]

You talking about the tiger woods crowd or just the animal?

[pliant cedar]

the animal

[wraith kindle]

Could we get back on topic somewhere?

[cloud badger]

Oh yeah lion vs tiger the long and hard debate about which highly identical cat beats the other 100% I've been there once gave me irreparable brain damage
At least I know the difference between roars and growls now
Speaking of predators were there any big non theropod predators that lived along size the dinosaurs?

[outer tusk]

depends on your definition of "big"

[cloud badger]

Anything above 20kg is megaphona for me

[static stirrup]

would azdarchids count?

[wraith kindle]

In the later days on land, that'd be the crocodilians (well, crocodilimorphs and all). In the triassic before theropods came onto their own, there were a whole bunch of groups

The adzarchids too.

[cloud badger]

Hmm interesting
Completely forgot those existed for a second

[static stirrup]

assuming we aren't counting the aquatic ones too

[wraith kindle]

Except it's a hatz.

[static stirrup]

this guy is like 5kg but its really cute so i think it should count

[wraith kindle]

Yea, depends on your relative definition of big.

[cloud badger]

Yeah I mean Azedarachids are pretty forgettable I mean they look unique and all at least for me maybe it's my short term memory
Oh on an unrelated note I learned that lemurs existed again right now
@static stirrup agree he counts
I completely forgot to right a part of the text instead of correcting it I will reflect on the side effects of my recent lack of sleep

[light osprey]

A large housecat

Just because it’s a Mesozoic mammal doesn’t mean you need to qualify its size as small compared to anything. It would be a perfectly sizable 5-6kg animal

[wraith kindle]

Selena is the one that compared it to a housecat, not me.

[stiff osprey]

bro got upset on behalf of the mammal

[light osprey]

Slander is slander

[wraith kindle]

There wasn't any slander?

This is paleontology, not discord promote channel. @stuck chasm

[cloud badger]

Fun fact some feral cats become a bit too large for some reason and they can reach 20kg in some cases Wich is perfectly big enough considering the largest native species is the red kangaroo at 57kg average

[wraith kindle]

Some domestic cat breeds can get pretty big, Maine Co0n is one.

[stuck chasm]

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[cloud badger]

I find that name funny because of 1 letter change
I have not grown 1 but I guess
Off topic is there any chance that if the mammoth is revived (like they say it will ) to introduce them in the pleistocene park

[steady rock]

the humble deinosuchus:

[wraith kindle]

That's just because the automod will hit that if I use an o. Not the cat breeds fault that it's using that.

[cloud badger]

I will still laugh at it(why am I finding it funny did I break the humor machine?)

[steady rock]

whats the difference ( besides location ) of the argentina sarcosuchus and the african sarcosuchus?

[wraith kindle]

That's fine, and does the steppe environment that the mammoths, assuming we're talking about the wooly one that's often meant by when people talk about mammoths), even exist anymore?

Not to mention climate change....

[cloud badger]

I mean cold planes everywhere in Europe and specifically on that project which already has domestic horses and is planning to get lions soon and is conveniently in a rather cold area of the world and is not going to affect the environment and is also conveniently a large steppe

[fluid inlet]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwydgyy8120o

[wraith kindle]

African lions probably wouldn't know what the hell to do there. They certainly wouldn't be adapted to cold environments either.

[cloud badger]

I mean they probably can figure out that horse is like zebra and bison is like buffalo what else would they need to know anyways it's not like they do lots of on a daily basis

[wraith kindle]

Interesting that we had so much difficulty getting out of Africa. It's not to say that it would have been easy of course.

[wraith kindle]

Lol.

[cloud badger]

And now we have powerlifter thanks to those guys blessings after death

[indigo cradle]

Hahaha gross

[frigid delta]

gwas who the hell this was supposed to be???

[steady rock]

whats a paleontology opinion that will have you like this?

[wary heath]

That's a xenotarbofaarus

There's some things that ai should never touch and that is paleontology.

[indigo cradle]

"herbivores don't fight back"

[wraith kindle]

That’s not found, did you mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenotarsosaurus ?

[cloud badger]

It's true they attack you first

[wraith kindle]

Looks like a carnivorous hippo though.

[cloud badger]

A hippo croc
Hippcrodile maybe

[wary heath]

I just made up a random dino name to call that amalgation of an ai dinosaur

[wraith kindle]

Ohh, ok.

[wraith kindle]

What did you tell it to make anyway?

[wary heath]

xeno and tarbosaurus

[wraith kindle]

Looks like it spliced a hippo with Rex dna.

[open compass]

Which one is correct for kentro?

[frigid delta]

butt spike??? what???
anyway for me it's left bcuz butt spike is weird (imagine sitting with it)

[open compass]

Lol

[frigid delta]

this looks like roblox
is this... is this Prior Extinction???

[fluid inlet]

I’m pretty sure that ain’t where the butt is at

[fluid inlet]

Good video on carcha upgrade btw

[open compass]

Thanks xd
And yeah it from prior extinction, is this accurate or we don't know about spile placement?

[fluid inlet]

I don’t wanna get banned for posting dinosaur butt 💀😂 right here

[wraith kindle]

Did they seriously put Kent’s shoulder spikes on its rear?

[open compass]

I'm confused too, because kent before TLC was correct

[frigid delta]

rumble... honest... just-
just put the fries in the bag already 😭🙏

[woeful falcon]

The answer lies with its relatives

Who have shoulder spikes

[olive frigate]

Afternoon guys, I'm new here and I'm curious. What's your favorite dinosaur(s)?

[tulip gyro]

pseudosuchians are cooler and dinosaur paleo has a weird community

[halcyon cobalt]

trilobites aren’t that cool

[fluid inlet]

they are very cool actually

[halcyon cobalt]

case in point

[tulip gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-smart-so-many-genius-this-server-has-so-many-geniuses-gif-17960640212511392691

[void slate]

It's just not sure. (yet) so calling something accurate is not really possible.

[hardy sentinel]

Do you guys think dinos could mimic prey? Corvids, Tigers (and sometimes house cats), and parrots are able to mimic animals, so would a dinosaur like Utahraptor be smart enough for such tomfoolery?

[halcyon cobalt]

probably. pretty hard to objectively prove though

[hardy sentinel]

intellect wise do you think they would even think of doing that

[snow python]

How big is the biggest Megalochelys we have?

[short river]

At least 1cm

[fluid inlet]

I without a doubt in my mind think so, predator and prey has had many many many millions of years to pull out every trick in the book even before dinosaurs.

[pliant cedar]

praying for this

[pliant cedar]

not surprised considering the difference in climate between africa and eurasia, even the middle east wouldve been a unique challenege

[fluid inlet]

Praying as in this is what you want for Christmas or your praying it stays valid or both 😎

[pliant cedar]

both

[fluid inlet]

Santa will bless u

[outer tusk]

either one is good

[tulip dove]

Is there a multiview skeletal of A. louisae?

[frigid delta]

even the butt spike???

[tulip dove]

Thought it was already debunked

[crystal dock]

It's not in the butt it's on the damn hips aka the legs not the rear end 😭

[frigid delta]

erm no i could clearly see it was in the ass 🤓

[signal silo]

as a figutr?

[umbral kite]

i have big brain trex and allosaurus come from the same genus 😀

[wraith kindle]

That’s still not where it’s supposed to be.

[primal ice]

Da butt

[crystal dock]

Actually the hip spike recon is fine

[primal ice]

I was told this guy look was changed what happened to the goat

[crystal dock]

Pretty much the armadillo back wouldn't be as visible but more like this

[primal ice]

Nooooooo

This is betrayal