paleontology

[compact leaf]

applachian saltasaurine

[sullen cairn]

does judith river ?tyrannosaurus count as a cryptid

[stiff osprey]

there's evidence of it so i'd say no, much as i would like to call the brazilian carcharodontosaurus my prehistoric cryptid

[steady rock]

can someone explain this to me

[sullen cairn]

i remember seeing some guy on reddit absolutely insisting that thing was 100% carchardontosaurus material for some reason

[stiff osprey]

dino hazard and its consequences

[steady rock]

okay but like, what happened to megalodon

[stiff osprey]

it became megalongdon

[crude latch]

Die

[sullen cairn]

when you refer teeth to torvosaurus/ceratosaurus on several different continents, its all fine and dandy, but refer a SA tooth to carchardontosaurus and suddenly i'm a bad person

[stiff osprey]

the people hated randomdinos because he told them the truth

[steady rock]

Dunkleosteus died for megalodons sins

so like, what does this mean about megalodon, is it just longer and the same weight?

[sullen cairn]

the bistahieverse canon version is that the iren dabasu and kazakh tyrannosaurs represent the earliest tyrannosaurini in santonian-early campanian asia, with tarbosaurus and zhuchengtyrannus diverging ~77 Ma, and Tyrannosaurus-line taxa entering NA ~75 Ma
Meanwhile T. bataar, Udurchukan, and Nanxiong represent the terminal Asian lineages

[stiff osprey]

oh hell yes
brazilian torvosaurus is my prehistoric cryptid now

[steady rock]

the image is confusing me 😦

[sullen cairn]

cryptobistahieology

[stiff osprey]

megalodon had more elongated vertebrae than great white sharks, so these authors believe it was more elongated in general
others disagree

[compact leaf]

one g away from the word filter having conniptions

[steady rock]

so. . . .like a oarfish kinda?

[stiff osprey]

nowhere near oarfish level long but yes

[ancient crystal]

Not like an oarfish

[steady rock]

well, how possible is the hypthosis anyways?

[stiff osprey]

more like basking shark or whale shark long

[stiff osprey]

surely they wouldn't censor the name of the giant prehistoric shark, megalongdong

[compact leaf]

other than the one above polar sauropods is my other cryptid, and the mythical isolated northern europe fauna

[sullen cairn]

this will be megalodon in 2019

[stiff osprey]

i can't believe they would steal my sea serpent design like this

[sullen cairn]

the late maastrichtian northwest territory pachyrhinosaurus cryptid

[compact leaf]

I can’t stop giggling at this it’s so stupid

[steady rock]

there is one though

[compact leaf]

north pole not the antarctic titanosaur

[sullen cairn]

if you go north enough you start falling south

oh here we are

[steady rock]

why is megalodon a cryptid

[compact leaf]

there’s also a weird number of references to post-cenomanian antarctic iguanodontids that are reasonably recent

I haven’t taken the time to look at them myself so very possible it’s just hadrosaurs

[sullen cairn]

maip implies there is a giant antarctan weddellian megaraptoran we need to find

[stiff osprey]

a very large amount of people believe megalodon is still alive with zero evidence, thus it is a cryptid

[steady rock]

does anyone here believe megalodon is still alive, speak now or forever hold your peace

[stiff osprey]

i think megalodon lives forever in your hearts (not mine. i hate him)

[sullen cairn]

does anyone here pronounce it "meg-a-low-done" as well

[steady rock]

i pronuce it " meg-alo-don "

[compact leaf]

I know falcon has opinions on sasquatch, I do too for that matter but I won’t go into what exactly they are

[stiff osprey]

how else are you supposed to pronounce it

mega-lawdon?

[sullen cairn]

meh-gal-a-din

[steady rock]

meg-alo-don??? thats how your suppose to say it

[woeful falcon]

Mega-lo-don

[sullen cairn]

michaelodon

[compact leaf]

meg-la-dun

[steady rock]

mega-lo-vania

[ancient crystal]

"B-b-but shark week said..."

[steady rock]

was there any scottland plesiosaurs?

[stiff osprey]

i don't know of any but given britain has 30 billion plesiosaurs surely scotland had some

[sullen cairn]

nessie

[steady rock]

well they did a study, theres hella alot of eels and no unknown dna so

[compact leaf]

idk if they’re named but there’s a few Jurassic ones from Scotland yeah

[sullen cairn]

wouldn't the fact we find so many in britain but none in scotland imply this represents a legitimate absence

[stiff osprey]

ah yes

[sullen cairn]

this is also why we know dinosaurs didn't live in north america for half of the late cretaceous

[compact leaf]

I’m certainly not advocating for nessie but that study also didn’t find any mammalian dna like otters that are known to be in the loch, take it with a grain of salt

[stiff osprey]

unironically the argument behind all the ''dinosaurs were declining before the k-pg'' papers

[sullen cairn]

i think nessie ate the mammals and thats why they werent there

[steady rock]

would plesiosaurs even be able to go on land like seals?

[stiff osprey]

well we haven't found as many dinosaurs in this narrow strip of north america as we did before so this means they were dying out across the entire planet

[stiff osprey]

no. they developed live birth so that they never needed to go on land, even to lay eggs

[sullen cairn]

well how else would you explain some deposits being less fossiliferous

[compact leaf]

apparently remains of plesiosaurus itself are known from scotland

or they’re attributed to plesiosaurus at least

[steady rock]

seals also give live birth and still go on land

[sullen cairn]

fascinating, but untrue! plesiosaurs lived in the water, while scotland is on land!

[stiff osprey]

seals didn't evolve live birth, they evolved from basal whatever-bears-are-iforms, which already gave live birth

[steady rock]

dosent scottland have seals

[compact leaf]

lots of them

[sullen cairn]

yup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_Scotland

[stiff osprey]

plesiosaurs evolved from egg-laying animals and changed their reproductive method to not go on land

[compact leaf]

Scotland actually has seals that spend a good chunk of their lives in the lochs, it’s pretty cool

[stiff osprey]

nessie is just a specific group of seals that always swim in a conga line

[steady rock]

now, is there any prehestoric apes that lived in america?

[compact leaf]

no apes, basal primates early on but no apes

[steady rock]

so bigfoot either isnt a ape, dosent exist or is a bear?

[compact leaf]

or an ape that immigrated at some point

[sullen cairn]

bigfoot is an abstraction of mankind's best qualities

[crude latch]

Via land bridge?

[compact leaf]

it looks like the north american primates were actually following a very similar development to the rest of the world, granted there’s colossal gaps in the record but it’s cool

[steady rock]

he swam actually

[compact leaf]

or rafting, a big ape could land ridge but not raft though it’d have to be a small ancestor

[crude latch]

:0

[stiff osprey]

in water, chimps will drown

[compact leaf]

I don’t touch the “bigfoot is another species of human” angle that gets too close to paleoanthropology, which I don’t touch with a 10 foot pole

return of the busted word filter

[stiff osprey]

oh come on it's our scientific name

[steady rock]

wouldnt bigfoot niche challenge partion bears?

[stiff osprey]

i was saying that i highly doubt bigfoot is in the same genus as us considering its degree of hair coverage

that's the one consistent trait across all sightings, besides being big and bipedal

[compact leaf]

it depends on what it would actually eat and how productive the ecosystem is

[steady rock]

well, bigfoot is always sighted where bears are

[compact leaf]

we’re talking about an animal that may or may not exist with basically the only thing to go off being “big primate” so there’s a lot of “it depends” involved

[stiff osprey]

bigfoot could be herbivorous and thus not compete with bears at all

[compact leaf]

I find yeti and it’s variants across asia more likely personally just given the nature of the terrain in those mountain ranges

[stiff osprey]

i like the orang pendek because there are literally multiple large living and fossil primates known from the region

[steady rock]

i remember scanova telling me how the yeti isnt just bigfoot but white

[chilly obsidian]

Ya'll. This important to me rn, someone send me the most recent skeletals on Microraptor and Archaeopteryx. Desperately

[steady rock]

we're gonna jump you

[compact leaf]

the local legends almost always say it’s reddish-brown so yeah

[steady rock]

i thought it was 4 feet tall

[sullen cairn]

prolly hartman

[steady rock]

jumpscare

[sullen cairn]

wait why was 2015 nine years ago

[chilly obsidian]

Why does it always have the 'toe claw', wasn't it debunked that Archaeopteryx wasn't a dromaeosaurid nor even a troodontid

[stiff osprey]

you don't need to be a dromaeosaurid to have a toe claw

[chilly obsidian]

yeah but like, wasn't it written that it wasn't one regardless

[compact leaf]

has archaeopteryx always had the toe claw and I somehow just didn’t notice

[stiff osprey]

it's still debated

*the presence of the toe claw that is. archaeo being a dromaeosaur is thoroughly out

[chilly obsidian]

As much as I'd want it to be a dromaeosaur, I don't think it is

[steady rock]

i just like how random said it wasnt a dromaeosaur

[chilly obsidian]

yeah, I'm just saying what I wanted to say

[crude latch]

Teuthis just means squid right?

[sullen cairn]

why has nobody in this server said ornatops before

[chilly obsidian]

ornatops

[stiff osprey]

ornatops

[sullen cairn]

yeah

this proves this server actually does like hadrosaurs and is spreading awareness of obscure taxa

[crude latch]

Thx

[steady rock]

how accurate is this megalodon?

[crude latch]

You draw this?

[steady rock]

no kevin taylor did

[crude latch]

Uhm

Holy shite Ik what that meg is

https://tenor.com/view/shark-nemo-finding-nemo-smile-creepy-gif-7326482

[open compass]

[nocturne merlin]

so this is a no go then 😔

[brisk acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/debating-thinking-what-huh-no-gif-17577266

[tough parcel]

I literally

[lavish frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/voldemort-never-pity-gif-19620932

[tough parcel]

[lavish frigate]

[novel atlas]

https://vxtwitter.com/HodariNundu/status/1747712570134565289?t=AqLaojS1kNI4FqFALdLvPw&s=19

[lavish frigate]

Silly lil goofy lil paleo people! How’s this Meg look?

[outer tusk]

Nice

[lavish frigate]

Thank ya

[white matrix]

Actually, I'm pretty sure we've found actual color in diplodocus, and it's more of a yellow/ginger

[brisk acorn]

Looks like a 60+ foot Thresher shark, pretty cool.

[lavish frigate]

Based it on the new loooong boi Meg

[brisk acorn]

i'll have to look into that

[bright veldt]

Afaik it doesn't hold up

[lavish frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/fairysoobs-elmo-sad-elmo-sad-stare-gif-26846922

[nocturne merlin]

needed a second opinion 😔

[tough parcel]

Society... (Completely fair lmao)

[sinful spruce]

@sullen cairn I am back I had to purge my other account I don't know why discord didn't work

[white matrix]

Allosaurus strongest soldier return??

[white matrix]

I apologize for call you suspicious last time, sorry for being judgemental.

[sinful spruce]

No problem man! We all make mistakes, I am not very well inversed with this "discord" so I was utterly shocked I couldn't type because I am new to this stuff

[tough parcel]

I do suggest that they throw a profile pic on simply because our resident silly goose seems to just be so...obsessed that he doesn't bother doing that

Just makes a new account, pings everyone and shouts slurs

[sinful spruce]

Silly goose?

[tough parcel]

A very problematic person, but story for another time

Just throw some clothes on 💞 (PFP) if you need help, I am more than happy to help

[sinful spruce]

Alright!

[tough parcel]

I like this guy

[sinful spruce]

TableSeating was asking for measurements' I was collecting the publications and typing untill I couldn't type

The Pete III

[tough parcel]

You're going over the Das?

[sinful spruce]

Just review

[tough parcel]

Interesting...

[sullen cairn]

Nice to have you back here
Shame what happened last week with mods

[west coral]

fun fact: hair can be fossilized

[lavish frigate]

I was like “wow this would be funny…..if it was true”

[white matrix]

It’s true

[lavish frigate]

Hair can fossilize though

[light osprey]

Real

[white matrix]

We overuse the word “real” here

[compact leaf]

Real

[west coral]

trug…

[jagged trellis]

they probably are, best thing to do is make a ticket for this discord on it though and or other discords with em

[deft sigil]

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[deft sigil]

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[light osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-rain-blade-runner-cry-gif-27556477

[outer tusk]

Should I totally draw Megalodon breaching with prey in its mouth?

[sinful spruce]

You can

[deft sigil]

A reminder to please view pinned messages for appropriate paleo-chat topics. Additionally if you have concerns regarding community members, see my above linked message on how to bring your concerns to the moderator team or Support Staff for review!

[west coral]

looks like you’ve been fooled by the guy

[delicate pelican]

yup that totally isnt like your 15th alt account

[white matrix]

15 seems like an underestimation

lmfao

[white matrix]

This is Tri or Zenobs 31th account in counting

[delicate pelican]

real alpha wolf

annoy everyone for no reason if your life is not preferable to you

[woeful falcon]

Thirty oneth

[white matrix]

i meant 31st mb

[tribal sandal]

Hello, Please keep this channel to Paleo topics only

[jagged trellis]

dinosaur but dead

[chilly knot]

real (me)

[outer tusk]

I know this is TheDinoFax but I was just wondering how bad this short is https://youtube.com/shorts/KhjCDlsjva4?si=cpYqaAPmfGht56pL

[tough parcel]

It is like all his content, completely mid

[outer tusk]

Also regarding comments does anything I or this person say have anything weight to it

[sinful spruce]

can I join pmc

[bright veldt]

I s2g people take the herbivores are fodder trope and put them in the complete opposite direction.

Of course they wouldn't be animals we'd want to mess with. Dryosaurus in particular is about the size of a male lion. But we're also not their predators lol. Dryosaurus likely relied on a mix of speed and hiding in cover to avoid danger, and ornithomimids are the fastest dinosaurs ever.

[sullen cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-up-opening-door-gif-20065356

[woeful falcon]

You too ay

What a coinky dink. I wonder if pronto also got pinged hm hm hm.

[white matrix]

I got pinged

[sullen cairn]

the coinky dinky of all time

[woeful falcon]

How weird.

[sinful spruce]

What

[tribal sandal]

Please stop tagging users and deleting the messages, and Keep this chat to Paleo topics only.

[sinful spruce]

Can we talk about albertonychus

[light osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/adalfarus-okbb-okbt-who-ping-gif-23052788

[ancient crystal]

Can you really not tell?

[light osprey]

Oh

[west coral]

random panperrisodactyl thursday

[sullen cairn]

"500kg horses can kill 60kg people with their kicks, so clearly hadrosaurs could easily dispatch predators of comparable mass that can easily stare them in the eye"

if only there was a word for animals closer to perrisodactyls than artiodactyls while still being basal to perissodactyla or something

guess we'll never know

[outer tusk]

I ask them why would they think that, and they said I need to chill because I apparently had an attitude

[sullen cairn]

i too get heated over youtube comments

[outer tusk]

truly

[outer tusk]

hello TableSeating while I think of attempting to draw Skropiovenator do you have nay other dinosaur or "hybird aniaml" ideas you would like me to do

[sullen cairn]

brachylophosaurus because it is cool

[outer tusk]

ok

[sullen cairn]

we stan gat's 1.4m femur in this chat

[west coral]

does gat even have a brachylopho

[sullen cairn]

elvis

[outer tusk]

Brachylophosaurus is a dinosaur I remember through a book about dinosaur and I think this dinosuar is cool

[white matrix]

Skinny mf

[sullen cairn]

me when i'm in a being the objectively best hadrosaur tribe competition and my opponent is brachylophosaurini

[outer tusk]

Daspletosaurus, Tyrannosaurid Indet, Daspletosaurus . Hornei, Tyrannosauroid indet, and Lythronax?

[sullen cairn]

Green is thanato and peach is dynamoterror

[outer tusk]

ah

if only youtube can show images on comments

[west coral]

me when I’m in an excluding wulagasaurus contest and my opponent is table

[light osprey]

Heresy

[sullen cairn]

Something something tlatolophus phylogeny something something unstable

[west coral]

something something excuses

[sullen cairn]

You can’t hide from barswulagini (patent pending)

[light osprey]

Ah yes the phylogeny that puts Blasisaurus into Parasaurolophini

[sullen cairn]

Me when the glupshitto hadrosaur dentary is poorly resolved (why are there so many)

[light osprey]

My goats 😊

[marsh tapir]

@worn verge Please use this channel solely for Paleo related topics. You can check every channel's guidelines in it's pinned messages to see what's appropriate and what is not. Also, refer to our #rules. Thank you!

[jagged trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466007025042849795/825819531716853830/image0.gif where ping

[sullen cairn]

[crude latch]

Hot wheels? 💀

[woeful falcon]

This is just absurd now

[ancient crystal]

There should be a rule against this

[outer tusk]

HOTWHEELS, BEAT THAT!

[warped peak]

hotwheels vs tyranosorus rex

[light osprey]

Thank god it’s some irrelevant Spider

[sullen cairn]

Starbucks ohio gen et sp nov, a new species of gargantuan Appalachian tyrannosaurid from the late Maastrichtian, named for its discovery near a Starbucks outside Toledo

[outer tusk]

I swear if a dinosaur is named after any fast food place am leaving

[sullen cairn]

Innout burgeri

[outer tusk]

☠️ what is that

[tough parcel]

There is no way this is real, you photoshopped this

[sullen cairn]

if only https://zookeys.pensoft.net/article/115996/

[tough parcel]

[sullen cairn]

god is dead, all is permissible

[light osprey]

Appalachia permanently rendered unbased

[steady rock]

why is this the first message i see when i enter paleo chat

[white matrix]

The hell did you say about my arachnid fella?

[white matrix]

In & Out Burger

[storm heron]

Ain't, No, Way

I mean I like hotwheels but it is clear that some people like it too much

[steady rock]

why did no one tell me such a unit existed?

[nocturne gazelle]

noodle

[sullen cairn]

as usual i'm left wondering if i should trust larramendi or not

[light oxide]

Jesus, how thin is this thing?

590 kg?!

[lucid ibex]

Hm, interesting

[compact leaf]

the one in the measurement can’t be the same one in the figure there’s now way

[scenic forge]

?

[sullen cairn]

they named a spider hotwheels
ergo it's clear our traditional constructs of morality and mankind's innate altruism are woefully incapable of confronting the frightening, cold realities of the human condition

[storm heron]

Overall, its funny to me

[pearl briar]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-wheels-commercial-toys-hot-wheels-commercial-gif-21400868

[scenic flame]

Isn't it endangered because certain people collect them because of it's name?

[round totem]

do you know that alectrosarus is the size of utahraptor

[pearl briar]

bro what???

[west coral]

Thanos…

[sudden wind]

I do not even get how this could possibly be real. You are trolling everyone.

And they are tracked by collectors because of its name

[outer tusk]

I know this is bad but may I still ask is this accurate at all

[native kindle]

for jurassic world maybe

[tough parcel]

[ancient crystal]

When the juvenile is actually the adult

[stiff osprey]

I love this

I'm just gonna start taking T.rex growth charts and adding ''early subadult'' ''subadult'' ''adult'' and ''fully grown'' on top of the already fully grown individuals

Follow me and we can make Tyrannosaurus blue whale sized!

[sudden wind]

"Juvenile" (which are adults) is the largest we have lol

[outer tusk]

You should totally do that.

[jagged trellis]

can't wait for argent to become godzilla 54 sized with this

[ruby patio]

The argent we have had just hatched from an egg. thats why we have such little material, when they're born they're just a leg

The body grows from the leg

[stiff osprey]

This is minor compared to 27 meter 100 ton mosa, but there is no such thing as a 15m MHMM M.hoffmanii either. 13-14m is the maximum

[ruby patio]

Lies!! Jurassic world showed me a 50 meter mosa. and that is based on a published book series.

[ancient crystal]

I really want to know their motivation for this. Like, I know a lot of people think mosasaurus and other prehistoric marine species were larger than they actually were, but this is ridiculous

[lavish frigate]

Blue whale sized Tyrannosaurus can’t hurt you! Blue whale size Tyrannosaurus isn’t rea-

Blue whale sized tyrannosaurus:

[jagged trellis]

paid actor is why, needed to bulk for the role with cgi enhancements

[ruby patio]

clearly they have access to info we don't. big paleo's trying to keep us in the dark

[lavish frigate]

Dang the person is hard to see

Guys I found the CEO of big paleo….

Aslo doli boi

[ancient crystal]

Is "big paleo" a thing people actually believe in or is it just a meme?

Please tell me its just a meme

[tacit pine]

Well well well

Look who it is

[outer tusk]

Bud think he's a Disney villian

[stiff osprey]

Sorry guys T.rex isn't actually blue whale sized 😔 I did research and it's only 63 tons

[tacit pine]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-dinosaur-gif-19324346

[outer tusk]

Yep

[lavish frigate]

Just a meme to my knowledge lol

[ancient crystal]

Thank god, I knew it was a just a joke here but apparently big anthropology or archaeology is an actual thing people believe

[stiff osprey]

There's predatory journals, or the supporting of unethical workers, other things like that that could be considered 'big paleo'

And of course embargoed enformation that's spread to only a few people does exist

But 'big paleo' in the sense of ''hiding the real 50 meter mosasaurus fossils to make us think jurassic world isn't real'', no, no one believes that

[outer tusk]

Hey RandomDinos just curious if you wanted me to draw a dinosaur what would it be?

[lavish frigate]

Wait you don’t believe in the real and true 50 meter mosasaur big paleo hides in the Statue of Liberty??

[stiff osprey]

No, because there's no holes in the statue for it to breathe. What's inside the statue of liberty is a 50 meter megalodon

[ancient crystal]

Because megalodon is a fish, and fish don't need to breathe 👍

[lavish frigate]

The red megalodon……

From the trench……

[stiff osprey]

uhhh Buitreraptor or Inawentu

[lavish frigate]

So does the shape of the statue prove long Meg????

[stiff osprey]

I suppose it does

[lavish frigate]

Thicc 50 meter Meg could never fit….we’re dealing with skinny Meg…

[tough parcel]

No it just proves that Megalodon is a subspecies of domestic cat, considering it is able to fill the entirety of the statue

[outer tusk]

Bet

[ruby patio]

Another spokesperson for mainstream media. Don't believe him.

[outer tusk]

Megalodon my favorite Cambrian theropod ❤️

[lavish frigate]

Is megalodon a subspecies of domestic cat….or are domestic cats subspecies of megalodon…..

[tough parcel]

Random is literally the opposite of mainstream media, bro consistently downsizes each animal he works on except I think rex?

[stiff osprey]

I technically downsized Cope (and Bertha but you don't know that yet)

[lavish frigate]

I’ve been pogged on

[outer tusk]

Am so glad you did so I don't have to keep heard people say "MAX REX IS 11-12t!!!!!!"

[lavish frigate]

Randomdinos is playing us. Random is actually the CEO of big paleo tricking us into thinking Bertha and cope aren’t 32.5 metric tons

[ruby patio]

You can downsize Cope to just over 9 tonnes

[stiff osprey]

You can, but you probably shouldn't

[tough parcel]

But it would be so funny if you did

[ruby patio]

^

[tough parcel]

What if you used that ridiculously thin rex dorsal from that paper everyone gets Acro's dorsal from

[stiff osprey]

I mean, true, it would be funny. I once downsized Bertha to like 8.5 t for that same reason

[tough parcel]

[ruby patio]

Whats Bertha

[stiff osprey]

the anti-Cope

[tough parcel]

No, she's Cope's girlfriend

[ruby patio]

Cope's 123 mm tibia also probably includes the tarsus, which means its around 112 mm without it

[stiff osprey]

Has the longest Tyrannosaurus femur yet discovered

[tough parcel]

God, get the Rex lore right it's embarassing...

[ruby patio]

You can't tell us that without telling us how long it is...

[stiff osprey]

Larson said it's without the astragalus, and it fits with the fibula also being longer than Sue's

[stiff osprey]

I can and I will

[heady thunder]

Cope long, or tall, does it have any tail remains probably not

[ruby patio]

But the tibia is proportionally longer than the fibula in Cope than in Sue

[tough parcel]

Cope is the adult Nanotyrannus we've been looking for...

[stiff osprey]

Irrelevant, in Giganotosaurus the tibia without tarsus is like 20cm longer than the fibula

[ruby patio]

What are the remains of Bertha

Is it a described specimen or

[tough parcel]

No lmao

[stiff osprey]

Femur and tibia is all I know

[tough parcel]

Random, you should tell me the measurements (I will do absolutely nothing with them)

[ruby patio]

Are there any available measurements

[tough parcel]

AFAIK the only measurements come from Vividen talking to the person working on Bertha, so it's a

[ruby patio]

Better than "It came to be in a dream"

[heady thunder]

Wouldnt the bertha paper come out last year? Thats what I heard long ago, but it seems that didnt happen

[stiff osprey]

I am almost tempted to let you take them, if only to see you suffer. Watch it frustrate you. Watch it corrupt your size estimates and drive you unreliable

[ruby patio]

What ever happened to that 136 cm femur circulating on twitter

[tough parcel]

This message gave me the absolute joy I needed after finishing Weird Birds P1

[sudden wind]

The only animal Random cannot downsize is :

Otodus megalodon

[tough parcel]

Has Random even tried it?

[stiff osprey]

I sort of downsized megalodon once, but it doesn't count because no one was paying attention to the larger estimates

There are published studies that support 23-27 meter megalodon, but because the study doesn't ouright state it nobody cared. I downsized it to like 20 meters, which is already the popularly accepted size

[tough parcel]

Ok but what's the weight

[stiff osprey]

106 tonnes according to the GDI of Tosha's model

[ruby patio]

Is this it

[stiff osprey]

yeah

[ruby patio]

Oh that should be scaleable with some Pythagoras

[sudden wind]

It's my femur yes

[outer tusk]

So 106 would be a more appropriate max for the giga shark?

[stiff osprey]

It's close enough to 122 or whatever Cooper et al said that I don't really care which people use

But yeah there is no 130-150 t megalodon

[bronze storm]

What about 151

[stiff osprey]

Yeah that's fine. Some megalodon only grew up to 129 tonnes and some were born weighing 151 tonnes

Just no 130-150t

[bronze storm]

WOWZERS ❗️❗️❗️

[outer tusk]

Alright bet, also regarding Cachalot whale bull size is 124t a likely "max" for the animal

[stiff osprey]

I don't think the bulls get over 80 t

Oh wait, McClain et al 2015 supports a 24 m individual, which could weigh 124t

but Guinness's largest verified individual is 20.7 m, and 80-90 tonnes

debatable i guess

[compact leaf]

there are other records of sperm whales approaching that size but it’s hard to verify, a lot of the truly huge ones got recorded by whalers who weren’t particularly concerned with the weight

[stiff osprey]

in their defense it is really freaking hard to weigh a whale that size with 19th century technology

[white matrix]

Dolphin Decoder

[outer tusk]

@stiff osprey sorry to ping but I finish Iwan and Butier

[stiff osprey]

based

[outer tusk]

Thank you so much am so glad you like it

[tough parcel]

<@&538079608914968587>

[white matrix]

bro pinged the whole mod team 💀

[tough parcel]

Yes! Also because I didn't feel like putting in the effort for that guy anyways

[white matrix]

nah I mean pinging all of them just wastes their time, one mod would be enough

[bright veldt]

What happened? I just looked in here.

[tough parcel]

Silly Goose kid

[bright veldt]

Yo shoutout to the mods fr. They act fast as LIGHTNING on this now.

[white matrix]

They attacked kto and theropoda too

[lavish frigate]

Oh no did the goofy goober attack

[stiff osprey]

the hadrosaur under them is my favorite though

I think this was a different silly goober, the one on theropoda didn't say anything and just pinged random people

[alpine island]

@deft sigil

[stiff osprey]

now this one is the one we know

[jagged trellis]

least deranged paleo chat moment:

[alpine island]

Ty mods

[outer tusk]

it's Brachyolphosaurus it was suppose to be for Table

[ruby moat]

Hi Paleo chat, I don't type in here often but I feel like this would be a good place to ask! Found this weird rock, is it a fossil? If so anyone know what it may be?

[lavish frigate]

Could be a shell. Or a rock with a shell imprinted on it

[ruby moat]

Cheers

[analog cliff]

I think it’s the tip of a baby elephant trunk

[ancient crystal]

Is the general consensus about O. megalodon still that it predominately preyed on cetaceans as adults?

[bright veldt]

Yes

[ancient crystal]

Ok, just checking because I'm in a weird conversation rn with someone that seems to be implying they were moreso predators of other sharks and fish so I wanted to make sure I didn't miss something

[sullen cairn]

strongest pre-lancian tyrannosaur vs weakest pre-lancian ceratopsid

[fossil ingot]

No idea who either are

[gray coyote]

Buff concaventor

[sullen cairn]

albertosaurus and eotrike

[west coral]

womp womp

[heady thunder]

Eh, alberto is too frail for eo, maybe two of them tho

[serene moat]

Ain't no way eo is that small💀💀

[heady thunder]

Thats an average trike with a bigger head, wouldnt call it small

[snow python]

How big was temnodontosaurus?

[tough parcel]

Seemingly around 6-8m(?)

Oh reading through, apparently Temno postcrania is non-existent in terms of description, but maybe it's changed since @stiff osprey said that

[pearl briar]

i've seen the meg conversation
based on that talk @stiff osprey should i update my meg size info then?

[outer tusk]

He said no 130t-150t exist or is the max so 122t-127t is good

[marble belfry]

Hi, I think it could be some kind of herbivore tooth. Mammoth tooth looked really similar. Maybe a toothimprint of an early herbivore? Like a back tooth maybe?

(Im a zoologogy master student by the way so I don't really know that much about fossils but stuff about animals so this is just a quess)

[bright veldt]

Eotriceratops is about the size of an average trike yeah.

[tiny holly]

If you want to know what a fossil is a great place to go for that is r/fossilid https://www.reddit.com/r/fossilid/ pretty good chance they'll be able to figure out what it is, or at least point you in the right direction

if the consensus ends up being that its some sort of non-fossil rock, then r/whatsthisrock is a great one to get rocks/minerals ID'd instead

oh actually looking through fossilid looks like you already posted it there lmao, hopefully you get a good answer!

[silk radish]

Real

[open compass]

Guys have you seen this video about horror with Accurate Dinos? What's your opinion about it's accuracy? Designs are great in my opinion https://youtu.be/2VOFqbKR04c?si=0q5lCy5JOAtJp6gq

[tough parcel]

I mean, I read the thread itself a couple days ago and it is actually incredible. Amazing horror and a heart-wrenching end that I genuinely did not expect to cry at

But the issue comes when the author decided "Hey, let's continue the series", utterly ruining any suspension of disbelief I could have

I cannot tell if I'm in the majority or minority with that opinion because I have heard both sides

[bright veldt]

Im gunna watch it in full myself later. I've seen both opinions as well so I'll see what I fall under. From what I read though, the designs of all the animals in question are fantastic. I think it definitely seals the "feathered dinosaurs can't be scary" ideology away forever.

[outer tusk]

Twitter paleo being actually goat'd

[tough parcel]

Yea nah, this image from the thread solidifies that it is the context and usage of the animals that causes the horror, not whether or not if it looks like a plucked komodo dragon

Though this also goes against the whole "Erm, feathered dinosaurs scary!!!" and then posting the same image of the skua eating a penguin alive for the 54024th time

[exotic quest]

I've seen the full thread, and I love it. The first perspective is personally my favourite, the second perspective imo strays too much into ||the future rather than the paleo|| but it's still a great story nevertheless

[heady thunder]

Is that a frog?

[tough parcel]

No it's ||the raptor in the attic||

[heady thunder]

It looks like a bullfrog

[tough parcel]

Which genuinely gives me goosebumps because of the build-up to this point in the story

[tough parcel]

And yea haha, the raptor models have very wide heads but the actual models are very rarely fully seen, so it's ok

[zinc solstice]

What is a fish? Like the most basal fish mylokominjidae look Identical to the basal chordate Yunnanozoon that it's hard to see the difference between all the chordates :/.

[exotic quest]

I think that's because the raptor heads are part of a suit or smth like that

[heady thunder]

Yeah cos everytime I see them, I dont think raptor, I think malformed dog, which makes them scarier I guess

[tough parcel]

Yea, I believe they were originally tailored from a storebought raptor mask? (One of the JW ones)

And yea @heady thunder the shots especially at night/blurry give a very eerie feeling to me

[open compass]

I loved microraptor's design, it looks so real and incredible

[outer tusk]

Holy cow I didn't see it until now

[tough parcel]

NOOOOO MIKEY, BROOOOO

[heady thunder]

But lets be real, in that situation, a house cat would scary you.

[open compass]

R.I.P Mikey

[outer tusk]

NOOOOOOO

[exotic quest]

literally

[tough parcel]

A story in 3 parts

[outer tusk]

So from my brief understanding on "scary herbivore dinosaurs", would a hardosaur trample you like modern day rabbits? Just out of curiosity

[exotic quest]

i mean if the rabbits were in a big enough group ig

[heady thunder]

I could suplex a deer sized hadrosaur ngl

[outer tusk]

I forgot if I showed this one but does this make sense I forgot, cause I know how unethical Dinosaur related YouTube comments can be

[exotic quest]

anything can be terrifying in the right conditions

[tough parcel]

Hadrosaurs trample us? Yes 100% we are absolutely nothing in terms of physical strength

Hadrosaurs trample their predators? Less likely than people like to make it out to be

[tough parcel]

The fearsome Dryosaurus humbles the prolific Allosaurus

[silk radish]

The true menace

[outer tusk]

Yes so real!!! Also I just like now the "scary herbivore dinosaur" trope is becoming more of a thing and I hate ot

[heady thunder]

Thats how big dryo is? I could definitely suplex that

[tough parcel]

Bro is late on the hate bandwagon, but I'll allow it

[outer tusk]

Also regarding sexual dimorphism between dinosaurs like plateosaurids would the males being larger and more hostile be a likely chance?

[bright veldt]

It’s going to one extreme from another instead of people actually knowing wtf they’re talking about

[bright veldt]

There is drastic size variation in plateosaurus but it’s thought to be tied to food availability during growth rather than sexual dimorphism

[tough parcel]

But Scan...African Buffalo and elephants in musth

[outer tusk]

Nvm anyways thank you for being the brains and understanding where am coming from when I see or watch videos or view comments like these

[tough parcel]

Ngl I dunno why you watch these period, there are significantly better videos to watch

[heady thunder]

Like rewatching JFC

[outer tusk]

I know but I typically feed myself videos like these because I know for a fact someone will example how bad they are for me but yes

[tough parcel]

No but like actually JFC is more entertaining than the stuff churned out by these "paleo-tubers"

Just as informationally accurate as well

[outer tusk]

Falcon9 may I ask this question again but do you have a particular dinosaur you would just love for me to draw for you on this very faithful day

[lavish frigate]

1…..what was that silly ping I got from here 🫵

2 did I really miss a whole conversation on the Archesuchus Dino ARG

[outer tusk]

No you have miss your entire livelihood,you are living in alternate reality

[tough parcel]

You can still contribute lmao, a little delay hasn't stopped anyone from responding (longest dry spell I remember is like a year or two)

Also @outer tusk Herrerasaurus

[lavish frigate]

(Insert confused cat emoji falcon uses sometimes but I can’t because no nitro 💀)

[tough parcel]

[lavish frigate]

There it is

[outer tusk]

Look is it just me or do some cat ( feline famarilis ) just look stupid for all angles

[tough parcel]

There is literally no-one who would disagree

[outer tusk]

Omg why is it so stupid 😭

[heady thunder]

Lets be real, CGI dinosaurs beating the ever living sh#t out of each other will always be fun.

[tough parcel]

This is so true

Kaiju fights are my #1 coping mechanism so power to the CGI fights

[tough parcel]

I can invite you to a server strictly dedicated to silly cats

[outer tusk]

Nah am good but seriously I dont know why recently it just for me cats okay generally felid just gives off the aurora of stupid I just don't know why

[tough parcel]

Yea nah that's 100% a thing

[heady thunder]

Its probably their hyperalertness coupled with the baby face

[heady thunder]

Which is why I hope that new PP inside thing has some actual dinosaur fighting in it

[tough parcel]

Nah there is no new season for PP

Oh wait you mean the VR thing

[heady thunder]

Its VR? Yeah Ill bet no dino fighting there too

[tough parcel]

Yea the new PP thing is a VR Interactive of a pterosaur colony/young rexes/whatever

[lavish frigate]

NO MIKEY NOOO

[tough parcel]

Bro it is so much more impactful after reading the whole thing, not full out bawling, but tears were shed for him

[lavish frigate]

Just from watching recaps (since I don’t have X ) it gives a very similar feeling to TSV (the sun vanished) which was another ARG (still going I believe?) on twitter.

[lavish frigate]

So if you wouldn’t mind spoiling a little for me what happens after their friend texts them about all the alerts and the guys with the suites that have the earth on them? (If I misremembered anything pardon me lol)

[tough parcel]

Oh I kinda...skimmed over any of the parts that had weird government conspiracies and zombie apocalypse-type scenarios, but essentially ||Narrator escapes house, goes into tunnels then is driven out by an eye-less Austroraptor, hides in a graveyard, hunted by a large raptor, encounters some sort of weird alien-future animal, encounters large raptor again, fist-fights it and wins on technicality that they lived, finds Mikey again along with his family, gets separated because of some large creature attacking, narrator blacks out from intense pain caused by the lights, wakes up in the throws of a cold snap, small animals are dead, they find Mikey dead and they mourn him, narrator finds Mikey's family and they offer narrator a fish, they all succumb to the cold together||

[lavish frigate]

Dang……

[tough parcel]

And then there's a P2 but I refuse to read it because any further is just a horrible idea and it concluded beautifully here

[lavish frigate]

While I personally disagree with how they depict a scenario where dinosaurs come back (since I mean…they are just animals so idk if they’d be causing an apocalypse lol) I still LOVE what I’ve seen so far from the series. I hope I can get caught up! (Also I will probably investigate this continuation and tell you it’s silly details because idc about narratives concluding beautifully! I’m a Jurassic fan! We don’t do “conclusions of narratives”!)

Truly great horror

[tough parcel]

Yea the zombie apocalypse but dinosaur is not what I like, but eh

[lavish frigate]

Yeah it’s not my preference either (which is why I started my little series on the topic to take what I think is a more realistic view of the scenario)

[lavish frigate]

He heard that

Unidentified troodontid is at your door. What you doin?!

(Also I believe they were confirmed to be troodontids somewhere)

[junior jasper]

yo another weird birds enjoyer?

[lavish frigate]

🫡

[heady thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/chael-ufc-chael-sonnen-fight-gif-13851039

[junior jasper]

LETS GOO

people are actually talking about this work of art

[lavish frigate]

He just wanted to mimic a dead kid and make you come outside 😔

[junior jasper]

fr

[heady thunder]

Dead kids, dinosaurs, doesnt matter, hands rated E for everything

[lavish frigate]

At the moment I’m actually writing a “dinosaurs in the modern day” type story but it’s quite a different vibe from Archesuchus lol

[lavish frigate]

Mikey is love. Mikey is life.

[junior jasper]

based statement

[keen forum]

||wait wasn't that sucho in the tunnels? *||

[tough parcel]

Head looked more like what I said

[keen forum]

naah

[tough parcel]

Ok but consider: I'm always right

[keen forum]

thats a damn spinosaur

[keen forum]

*wrong

[tough parcel]

Ur wrong also the feathers so 🤓

[keen forum]

stares at the skull and long arms

[tough parcel]

Austro has long skull

[keen forum]

not built like that you can see the notch

[keen forum]

and what austro has long arms

[bright veldt]

I read Part 2. Honestly, it was pretty good? It's very different from the first but not in any bad way at all. It's from a different perspective and does different things that I think are very engaging. It doesn't hit the absolute horror of Part 1 but it's clearly not intended to be, it still has its haunting and emotional moments.

[lavish frigate]

Ooooh

[lavish frigate]

Falcon commits being wrong at 3am (caught on camera) (cops called)

[tough parcel]

Gonna bring up MV comparison again, how people whine about it becoming too fantastical from the grounded beginning

[hallow spear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1052353004998758471/1081736771047522444/ezgif.com-gif-maker-3.gif

[bright veldt]

Keep in mind that that "thing" (whatever it is, I have no idea) is really the only thing of that nature in the story (and is immediately followed by a very grim kick in the balls for said characters).

[tough parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878030287676801054/1187206219560132788/pMZjmXRh.gif?ex=65baf4f3&is=65a87ff3&hm=032fe4ad961de91106aab2401951c3b8fc3fef74ff42381acfdd54fd9337efd2&

[light oxide]

"MV comparison?"

[tough parcel]

MV = MonsterVerse which is the series of kaiju flicks from Legendary

Also like, dunno. It just feels the existence of it period kinda messes with my view of the story's world

[bright veldt]

I'd really suggest just reading it yourself before coming to that conclusion? It never bothered me in that sense, and it's not like you can't not just ignore it after the fact.

Again, it's not really like Part 1. Part 1 was very much a slow burn. Part 2 gets into things pretty quickly (w/ the main characters kinda already aware that something's up, including knowing the on-going story of Part 1 happening at the same time cause online). Things have very much scaled up drastically in terms of scope.

[light oxide]

o h

. . . Meh — I jsut think that they're following how the Showa Era use to do stuff. Which can lead to both good and bad things that the Showa Era movies also had.

Anyways, back to paleo stuff. XD

I heard of the claim that Megalodon was longer than previously thought — how did they come to that conclusion? I never heard of what they did to come to that.

[bright veldt]

I've heard it wasn't really founded on anything substantial.

[light oxide]

Interesting.

Do we have any prehistoric ancestors of the cookie cutter shark, or nah?

[bright veldt]

The cookiecutter shark's genus, Isistius, along with the family the cookiecutter shark belongs to, the Kitefin Sharks, have been around since the Eocene.

[light oxide]

So some million years after the KG Extinction. Hmm . . .

What are the possibilities that some aquatic marine reptile had a niche similar to the cookiecutter sharks until the said extinction, allowing those sharks to take those niches?

[bright veldt]

It's something extremely specific that would be very obvious on a marine reptile, so no.

[light oxide]

I see.

[light osprey]

Hessinodon and Squaliodalatias would’ve been doing something similar I think

Well, at the very least are Dalatiidae

[plain stirrup]

could utahraptor jump

[ruby patio]

https://dinosaursandbarbarians.com/2022/03/29/the-cedar-mountain-allosaur/ Could be linked to the SVP abstract

[bright veldt]

Probably. Just not that well most likely.

[exotic quest]

I'm pretty sure the thing in the tunnels was some sort of Spinosaurid. It appears to have the same notch in the jaw and a lack of feathers

[calm agate]

Definitely, probably fairly far but not very high, think of it like a Lion where it's a long leap that doesn't go too far off the ground.

[junior jasper]

hi scanova also yeah utah could probably jump

not very much though

[idle talon]

Kaprosuchus jumpscare

[junior jasper]

ark moment

[idle talon]

I like to believe they somehow could do that irl

[junior jasper]

ye nah but ark kapro has jumpscared me so many times

[idle talon]

Same. I mean irl it either jumpscared you from the water or sprinted at you

[junior jasper]

i mean probably but it defo couldnt spring itself 70 feet forward lol

[idle talon]

We’ve only found its head so we don’t know what it could do because its family of crocs was the most random things ever

[west coral]

assuming from its close relative mahajangasuchus, it wouldn’t be that remarkable besides its skull

[idle talon]

Didn’t it live 30 million years before mahajangasuchus?

[light osprey]

Yeh

[idle talon]

Whatever the case may have been, I will make long legged kaprosuchus real

[outer tusk]

No

[light osprey]

It’s not real though

[idle talon]

I will make it real

[outer tusk]

I like altispinax

[west coral]

best you’ll get

[idle talon]

I personally think kaprosuchus was a mix of aquatic and terrestrial

[light osprey]

Yeah…. Very terrestrial….

[idle talon]

Probably more aquatic though

But more maneuverable on land then modern gators. But until post cranial remains are found it remains a mystery

[outer tusk]

I like to think Kapro as a Cuban croc

[idle talon]

Yeah that but bigger

[outer tusk]

Honestly it's not that much bigger than Cuban Crocodiles

[light osprey]

It’s not a mystery we have Mahajangasuchus post crania 😭

[steady rock]

kaprosuchus ate my dog

[idle talon]

Mahajangasuchus is its closest known relative but its not that close considering the time gap between them

[idle talon]

My dog is kaprosuchus

[outer tusk]

It literally means we can just reference Kapro from Mahajangahasuchus

[light osprey]

They are a close as they can possibly be without being like sister taxa, there is nothing else you should use to reconstruct it’s post crania

[idle talon]

True but it is 30 million years apart

[outer tusk]

It's not that far

[idle talon]

Like I said, I will make it real

(The mugger crocodile I kidnapped watching me genetically alter its offspring to have long legs)

[bright veldt]

Kaprosuchus's idea of being partially terrestrial has less to do with the physical anatomy and more just its jaws not really looking to be for fishing

[idle talon]

Yeah that’s what I heard. We only have a skull of it anyway

[light osprey]

The caveat being it still has a platyrostral skull, and dorsally positioned nares and orbit

[idle talon]

A good description I saw someone give it was “true semi aquatic”

[idle talon]

Since megalania is now called varanus priscus, could megalania be considered its common name?

[heady thunder]

Megalania forever

[idle talon]

Exactly so megalania is just its common name. Nobody calls it varanus priscus

[bright veldt]

I'd say so

[sudden wind]

SECOND TIME TODAY

[white matrix]

lmao

[outer tusk]

@tough parcel

[lavish frigate]

Anyone know what the climate was like in dilos habitat?

[stiff osprey]

Most sources say it was pretty deserted

[lavish frigate]

Ah ok 👍 just trying to get a rough feel so I can put an appropriate amount of floof on my dilo (because naked scaley dilo is cursed )

[bright veldt]

early theropods had a body plan that was pretty terrible at retaining heat, and deserts have massive hot/cold swings in day/night so

[stiff osprey]

still, I wouldn't feather it any more than an ostrich

[lavish frigate]

Dang that’s actually quite a lot of feathers. I was gonna do a lighter floof kinda like sinosauropteryx

[outer tusk]

I perfer scaly or feathered ngl

[lavish frigate]

I don’t hate scaly when pulled off good (tbh you just posted probably the best scaly one ever made

[outer tusk]

I mean it's not hard to do it cause it's literally just not giving dilo feathers

[upbeat hornet]

slapping feathers on every theropod (especially ones from as far back as the early jurassic period) is not the move imo

[lavish frigate]

I mean dinosaurs are ancestrally feathered animals so I definitely don’t see a problem with it

[light osprey]

Essay incoming….

[upbeat hornet]

yes but our evidence of feathered dinosaurs only dates as far back as the late Jurassic period. its not like dinosaurs just evolved themselves in with feathers off rip or anything. it was a development that happened over time. now of course use creative freedom as you will, but if you're going for definite accuracy, I would avoid putting feathers on it

[light osprey]

Wait that’s not even the good reason for not assuming they are ancestral 😔

[upbeat hornet]

its the easy explanation tho

[woeful falcon]

if you consider pterosaur feathers to be true feathers and not independently evolved filamentary structures, ancestral feathers bam

I don't mind dilo with feathers. in fact, I'm gradually growing more fond of it just from an aesthetic point. but that doesn't necessarily make it an animal known from actual feathering, even taking ancestry into account

[lavish frigate]

Pterosaur feathers are Identical to early dinosaur feathers so I feel it’s safe to say pterosaurs didn’t just convergently evolve identical structures. Especially considering how closely related the two groups are I think the current hypothesis is that feathers are Ancestral

[light osprey]

We have older Jurassic aged evidence for feathers in theropods, so it’s all a bit redundant

[compact leaf]

there is studies that suggest potential feathering in coelophysis too pushing it even further back, granted they’re environmental studies with a simulated metabolism but it’s enough to warrant speculative feathering however primitive

[woeful falcon]

the follow up question of dilophosaurus having feathering, if it had any, is to what extent

[upbeat hornet]

I wouldnt imagine it would be covered head to toe with them if there were any at all considering its environment

[lavish frigate]

The moral of today’s story is: it’s probable that dinosaurs are ancestrally feathered animals and it’s perfectly possible and plausible that dilo had feathering

[lavish frigate]

I mean potentially quite a bit considering how ratites and other such large birds are in hot environments 🤷‍♂️

[light osprey]

Maybe enough to still be on its pubis. Though I don’t remember if that trace fossil should’ve been attributed to Dilophosaurus specifically (?)

[lavish frigate]

Oh right the trace fossil. That exists. I should’ve mentioned that….

[upbeat hornet]

ratites had flying ancestors though no? I imagine thats a deciding factor

[lavish frigate]

Well yeah but idk how much that would change

What in the fluffy Jurassic park did I just find….

[light osprey]

It’s beautiful

[lavish frigate]

It’s got the JP head

[ancient crystal]

Its got that weird in-between where I can't exactly tell if its wrists are broken or if its just the angle of the arms

[lavish frigate]

It’s so weird

[idle talon]

It looks like its tryna play basketball

[lavish frigate]

Lebrontosaurus….

[light osprey]

This is everyone’s favourite feathered theropod depiction, but it could’ve been even more feathered

[ancient crystal]

Forget which dinosaur would win in a fight, the real question is which dinosaur would win a game of basketball

[lavish frigate]

Ok….im Sorry…..im giving my dilo frizzle chicken feet

But just the feet. Don’t worry he won’t be this

[light osprey]

The fact that it seems even in mild temperate climates non-avian Theropods retain feathered feet

[lavish frigate]

Oh wait really 👁️👄👁️

[idle talon]

I wonder if any of the smaller dromaeosaurs were arboreal

[light osprey]

A few Jehol fellas preserved it

[lavish frigate]

I was about to say microraptor but I’ve recently heard it was more terrestrial actually

[bright veldt]

It depends. Basically all of them that aren’t the largest 3 were probably good tree climbers. The aborealness aspect is debated however.

[lavish frigate]

I wonder now….. does Yuty have preserved feet?

[bright veldt]

(Also not unenlagines or halzskaraptorines but you get it)

[light osprey]

That’s one of the fellas that probably has it, I’m 80% sure of it

Lmao I posted Nanuqsaurus

[bright veldt]

Yeah yuty had fluffy feet

[lavish frigate]

oh my freakin- FRIZZLE CHICKENS OF THE CRETACEOUS MY BELOVED

[lavish frigate]

I was about to say….

[outer tusk]

I hate this animal

[light osprey]

Uh, cool

[lavish frigate]

Paleontologist confirmed! (joke about fragmentary Taxon. I’m a true comedian 💀)

[bright veldt]

Even then nanuq being feathered needs to die

[woeful falcon]

hater spotted...

[light osprey]

I dunno about that. Polar bear white sure I guess. It’s literally the coldest Cretaceous formation we’ve found with Dinosaurs

[outer tusk]

you're not

[lavish frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/precisely-lizard-gif-27582569

[bright veldt]

It still wasn’t super cold, even during winter. Snow and cold snaps happened but that’s nothing a 2+ ton animal can’t handle

[light osprey]

I guess it’s not cold if you’re comparing to our modern Arctic Circle, still about as cold as places like Seward, Alaska

[outer tusk]

is hippo in the snow a okay analog

[lavish frigate]

Where is that man…

[bright veldt]

Pff. The thing with them is that they have no fat on them at all despite how they look.

The thickness is all skin and muscle.

[lavish frigate]

Nobody post the Madagascar meme….

[light osprey]

Coldest place I recall in its natural range has an MAT of like 12 degrees. I’d wager no….

[lavish frigate]

Ok….how is he so far

[idle talon]

Celsius or Fahrenheit?

[light osprey]

Celsius

Prince Creek is between 5-6 with a CMMT of around -2

[idle talon]

-2 is cold enough for snow but pretty damn warm (at least for me it’s warm)

And yeah 12 degrees is like sumner where I live

[crude latch]

https://tenor.com/view/moto-moto-madagascar-i-like-em-chunky-i-like-em-big-gif-14460055

[lavish frigate]

Nooooooooooooo

[tough parcel]

Bro is DISGUSTED

[idle talon]

THIS WILL BE KAPROSUCHUS IN 2025 ‼️‼️‼️

I should’ve edited some red circles and arrows into the image as well

[light osprey]

Objectively that’s just not that warm. It’s comparable to places like Anaconda, Montana and the Kenai Peninsula

[idle talon]

I know its below freezing but for my region its relatively warm since it was like -37 last week

[light osprey]

That’s like Iqaluit, Canada winter weather

[idle talon]

I live like 2000 kilometres southwest of Iqaluit

Around 2537 to be exact

[lavish frigate]

Like this?

[idle talon]

Yes exactly that, thank you

[white matrix]

Tf is anaconda, like the snake?

[light osprey]

A city in Montana

[white matrix]

we should say Montana instead!

[idle talon]

I live kinda close to Montana which is a fact that exists

[outer tusk]

Is Tarbosaurus the only tyrannosaurid that doesnt have a ceratopsid rival

[light osprey]

Iren Dabasu Tyrannosaurini

[outer tusk]

Real?

[light osprey]

Very

[outer tusk]

Okay

[tranquil quartz]

What about about both members of Alioramini?

[lavish frigate]

@tough parcel I’m punishment pinging you because you lied to me 🫵 weird birds part 2 is based 🫵 other than the weird 300 foot transparent squid alien thing 🫵 mosasaurs and utahraptors 🫵 I gotta stop using emojis as punctuation 🫵

[tough parcel]

How would I lie if I never read it

[outer tusk]

Don't know

[lavish frigate]

Well you should 🫵 or watch a recap at least lol. I’m glad that it’s a different perspective from other people instead of “ooooh spoooky Archesuchus survived to tell the tale”

Which would have actually ruined it

[stiff osprey]

what the heck is weird birds

[compact leaf]

the twitter thing with the creepy troodontid mask

[tough parcel]

https://vxtwitter.com/_Archesuchus_/status/1705078448518045713?s=20

[stiff osprey]

I saw that, but now there's a squid alien and a mosasaur?

[lavish frigate]

Ok admittedly it’s probably not an alien and more of a “the future is wild” thing

[lavish frigate]

And yes there’s a || mosasaur that hunts a plesiosaur by freaking launching it from out of the water ||

[stiff osprey]

all I'm seeing is more pics of the troodon costume 😔

[lavish frigate]

Hmmm is the new stuff in the same thread? 🤔 I mean I’d assume so. Maybe scroll till your at the newer stuff

Ok THATS it. Im making more Dino’s in 21ST century things because this has gotten me in the mood

[bright veldt]

Weird Birds as an analoge horror setting is basically Primeval but taken to its logic conclusion. Rifts in time (both present and future) causing various anomolous events to occur, including the rapid introduction of creatures from other times. At first it's merely trickles, which is believed to have what initially occured and was seen in Part 1, but come the end of Part 1 and Part 2 in general, it has become a full-blown apocalyptic style event.

[lavish frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dog-kiss-blow-kiss-deliciousness-gif-15701259

[stiff osprey]

This was the last thing in the thread

[bright veldt]

Part 1 involves a man living alone in Illonois and Part 2 is a young sister and brother in Florida, with the events of both parts overlapping in time.

[tranquil quartz]

Is there any Carboniferous creatures ever depicted

[bright veldt]

On my end I just looked in the replies and it continued

[bright veldt]

There are various amphibians but I never saw anything outright carboniferous. Basically all of the paleofauna looked to be Mesozoic (probably cause that's what the artist knows best).

[tranquil quartz]

Amphibians are an automatic win. Will be reading the entire story now

[lavish frigate]

Idk about specific Carboniferous ones but there are some cool amphibians and things. There’s also some Cambrian explosion lookin dudes

[bright veldt]

I forgot about the trilobites lol

[lavish frigate]

There’s also those things in the water that look Cambrian-y lol

[stiff osprey]

aha i found the rest of part 1

had to click the images otherwise OP's own replies wouldn't show up. no part 2 here though

[bright veldt]

It's seperate so I can just send it whenever ur done with 1

(or can just watch the youtube reading versions, if ur not a fan of the voice you can just mute except for the video portions)

[ancient crystal]

Oop

[lavish frigate]

||The fact a kid just ran up to a Utahraptor and took a photo is just hilarious to me (and yet based on how goofy animals can be I don’t think it’s out of the question)||

I keep forgetting to Spoiler it lol

[stiff osprey]

Hall Lake / Mcrae formation

this bich empty. no diversity

[hallow spear]

You;re a bit empty.

also what alamo is that hmm

[stiff osprey]

half brick's, half mine

[ancient crystal]

What is that little speck I see between the two ceratopsids?

[bright veldt]

Turtle

[bronze storm]

The.

[light osprey]

Everyday I await Lopez de Bertodano….

[sullen cairn]

So sad hall lake’s renowned 12t hadrosaur is mia

[stiff osprey]

yup

the information we have about it is ''is a hadrosaurid''

[light osprey]

Southern Edmontosaurini…

[sullen cairn]

1.2m hadrosaur femur is 10t+ trust me bro

[stiff osprey]

it has a 1.2m femur?

[sullen cairn]

In the supplementary

[stiff osprey]

oh
i could assume it's edmontosaurus and add it to the chart but i am no longer in the mood so it stays nonexistant

[sullen cairn]

I can’t believe random is intentionally omitting the 100% largest hadrosaur south of Montana in an effort to hide from the world hadrosaur supremacy

Although I think lancian scaled it already in paleomedia already anyways

[stiff osprey]

based on x-rex it would be an impressive.... 10.8 meters long

[sullen cairn]

…impervious to predation…

[light osprey]

The Hall Lake Monster

[stiff osprey]

i'm sure a full grown bull could easily dispatch T.mcraensis

[sullen cairn]

This will be hall lake formation in 2018

[stiff osprey]

Ok this one spooked me

[tough parcel]

YEA, EXACTLY

This image is my favorite

[stiff osprey]

In part because I took a very similar picture on my university campus once and only saw the eyes later

[tough parcel]

Wait wait what, elaborate

[stiff osprey]

Let me go find it

I went on a walk with a friend before class on a funny trail leading from the street

[lavish frigate]

The ARG is real (fr fr)

[tough parcel]

And we've already started with the "I ran into a cryptid" cliche 😭

[stiff osprey]

Only thing we found in there was a random iron fence in the middle of the woods, a regular house with the lights on, and a cat

[lavish frigate]

That was just me

[tough parcel]

Nah these can't be eyes, these are lights

[stiff osprey]

They're streetlights seen from the opposite side of the woods

[tough parcel]

Oh

[bronze storm]

Tyrant lizard king

[white matrix]

New paper sort of debunks the whole human biteforces are weak thing, pretty cool

[stiff osprey]

neat, I heard ages ago that humans have about the bite force of a wolf, seems to be correct

[tough parcel]

Wait...does this mean I could suffocate a bison?

[stiff osprey]

Provided you and like 13 buddies bit it into chunks first

[tough parcel]

Hmmm, sounds doable

[upbeat hornet]

thats my average weekend

[outer tusk]

idk why we thought are bites are weak

[tacit pine]

W for human

[empty sentinel]

Human nerfs are still broken

[pearl briar]

what is Trachodon's new name?

[tacit pine]

Anyone know Prognathodon length and weight?

[pearl briar]

idk abt weight but iirc length is abt 6-10m

[raven osprey]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3WUbLBTm0U4&t=7s what you guys think about tracy lee theory of lipless terapods

[cloud dagger]

I think i will not even watch the video

[white matrix]

yes i think so too

[ancient crystal]

That man makes Jack Horner look trustworthy

[light oxide]

Crocodile Monitors have similar teeth and mouth structures to theropod dinosaurs. And they have lips:

[lavish frigate]

Lips are also the ancestral thing for vertebrates I believe? Or at least land vertebrates?

[zinc solstice]

Lips are ancestral to all vertebrates even the first vertebrates mylokominjidae had some kind of lips and jawed vertebrates too as xuishanosteus the earliest jawed placodern had lips and even the group that is the common ancestor of jawed cartilaginous fish and bony fish acanthodii had lips

[lavish frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-baby-gif-5199053054594704929

[tough parcel]

I say we never use lizards as dinosaur mouth ref because if we did, the gums cover the teeth and I hate how that looks

[lavish frigate]

Yours don’t? 🤨

[tough parcel]

No, I am a crocodile-rex hybrid

[lavish frigate]

I thought you were a falcon

[tough parcel]

That’s my code name

[bright veldt]

It's nonsense fueled almost purely by JP nostalgia.

[lavish frigate]

Great and mighty PoT paleo chat. How’s this dilo? (Extra small digits are covered by fluff btw)

[white matrix]

What’s the azhdarchid

[lavish frigate]

It takes place in the modern day (per the oil drill). Time collapsed in on itself and it’s a long story with lots of lore

[white matrix]

erm that didn’t answer my question lol

[lavish frigate]

Oooh thought you meant it as “why is there an azhdarchid” lol. It’s quetz

[white matrix]

Alr

[tacit pine]

Hmmm alr

Im gonna geuss it was 5-7 tons

[outer tusk]

4.3t

[hallow spear]

so basically 3-4t or so

[lavish frigate]

Ok I’m sorry but I’m just addicted

The scientific care put into these designs is just beautiful

[outer tusk]

the last one is dope as hell

[light osprey]

The first one is truly terrifying

[lavish frigate]

The birb gives you fish || before you freeze to death|| do you accept?

[exotic quest]

i love these

[lavish frigate]

Same ❤️

[exotic quest]

also the troodontid(s) at the door is just amazing. the way the eyes reflect off the light is just scrumptious
also the microraptor models

[lavish frigate]

My personal favorite is the Utah (and ik it’s Utah because it’s like 7 feet tall and bulky as heck lol. Unless it’s achillo which I doubt)

[exotic quest]

yeah, it looks so eerie yet not out of the realms of possibility

[bright veldt]

It seems the utahraptors are generally less of a menace than the troodontids. They're probably the bigger ones that're eating the main troodontid threat in Part 2

[lavish frigate]

Could’ve been the Tyrannosaur that was shown like once or twice

[bright veldt]

I don't mean the troodontid that was in pieces that was obviously the tyrannosaur's work.

[lavish frigate]

Ah ok 👌

I wonder what Tyrannosaur that was? Geography doesn’t seem to have much of an impact on what animals show up (hence Utahs in FL and sarco in FL)

[idle talon]

Archesuchus 🔥🔥🔥

[idle talon]

Idk he just dubbed it “the shadowy tyrant”

[bright veldt]

This post is what I mean

[lavish frigate]

Ah I didn’t make it quite that far yet

[idle talon]

Yeah they don’t seem very aggressive towards humans

[lavish frigate]

Also….the heck was the 300 foot transparent teal squid alien looking thing lol

[exotic quest]

something from the future

[idle talon]

I think it was a siren because it says that on the WEHO paper

[idle talon]

It came through the purple portal so its probably from a different planet or dimension

[lavish frigate]

This series is like SCP meets primeval and I’m here for it

Along with a sprinkle of “the sun vanished”

[idle talon]

Also this

[bright veldt]

Eh that might be just a future animal, and probably is.

[lavish frigate]

Reminds me of a scaly version of a Serina tentacle bird lol

[idle talon]

Yeah its a parrot from 40 million years in the future

Descendant of the African grey parrot I think he said

[lavish frigate]

I’d like the story to end on a less sad note than what it probably will. Humans probably gonna go extinct 😔

[idle talon]

Idk the WEHO guys seem to be from the future

[bright veldt]

Time itself seems to be breaking down so that's probably not really a concern on the map atm

[blazing rune]

is it just me or 2 ceratos could kill a allo easily

[idle talon]

Probably not. They’d probably leave each other alone actually

[exotic quest]

yeah

[blazing rune]

no they were rivals

[idle talon]

No, they would’ve filled different niches

[exotic quest]

also the second story takes place in 2023 still and the WEHO notes were from January 2024

[bright veldt]

Yes and no. It really depends. The largest confirmed allosaurs are over double the size of a ceratosaurus. Even two of them isn't exactly anything easy. That's the big ones though, most allos were smaller and I wouldn't be surprised if ceratos held their own more often then not.

[idle talon]

Allosaurus and torvasaurus may have been competitors but probably not as much allosaurus and ceratosaurus

[blazing rune]

what about there differences

[lavish frigate]

Time is getting really weird. Apparently we know stuff the chapter 1 person posted before the chapter 2 people can see it?

[bright veldt]

This isn't a situation where anything's an easy win unless it's the largest of both species in a singular contest.

A 1 ton cerato isn't doing anything to a 2.5 ton allo. Past that it's a lot more complicated.

[idle talon]

The most likely outcome in a scenario like that is the allosaurus would probably decide its not worth it and leave

Unless it was protecting its young

[sullen cairn]

Is there a lore reason I can never remember how old 4734 is supposed to be

[bright veldt]

Who?

[sullen cairn]

The lil neotype guy

[exotic quest]

yeah, and we can send the images of the chapter 1 person's experience to the chapter 2 person

[lavish frigate]

Reminds me of how the guy in another twitter ARG called “the sun vanished” could see people in his comments pictures of the sun still existing

[idle talon]

Yeah I’m fairly sure WEHO is from the future since they mention the ‘novacene’ and when Bailey checks their website its just some volunteer organization

[lavish frigate]

Hmm….just looked it up myself. This is interesting…

[outer tusk]

Hey Scanova can I ask this question, so you have a dinosair you would love to see me do besides noasaruid?

[bright veldt]

Alvarezosaur

[sullen cairn]

so allosaurus is funny because apparently the smaller one here is an adult and the larger one isn't even fully grown

[outer tusk]

☠️ wait fr?

That's is freaking cursed

[bright veldt]

Yeah allosaurus was f*cking wierd man

and is what I was talking about with Ceratosaurus-Allosaurus conflicts probably not being one-sided a lot of the time. Many (maybe the majority) were more similar in size to Cerato.

[sullen cairn]

tbf afaik your average allosaurus (~DINO-sized) is still appreciably larger than even the largest ceratosaurus and that's not accounting for the fact most of that average is comprised of still-growing individuals

[light osprey]

The Billboard challenges the Twink Allosaurus

[sullen cairn]

ceratosaurus uses "9m" zimbabwe "ceratosauus" femur

[bright veldt]

tbf there's still the thing of a 1.5 ton animal vs a 1 ton animal being sigificantly different from a 1 vs 2-2.5 ton animal

Even if a lot of allos were larger, it's a lot less of a comfortable size difference

[sullen cairn]

i'd still say a >50% size difference is enough to make most interactions pretty definitively in favor of the larger one

and i'd imagine if we incorporated still-growing ceratosaurus into its average size that would widen the gap much more as well

[light osprey]

Why is it hard to find good art of these two

[open compass]

A sad image:

[outer tusk]

@bright veldt

[heady thunder]

JFP, Jurassic Fight Peak

[chilly knot]

literallynme

[light osprey]

Summoned by Gosling

[blazing rune]

yall are still on cera and allo

[light osprey]

This is really cool actually

[lavish frigate]

Oh yeah it’s a really nice design

[blazing rune]

Anyone like narsico over main species of cera

[bright veldt]

C. nasicornis is the only valid cerato species.

[blazing rune]

uhh no

[bright veldt]

Denti are just older and more mature nasicornis

[blazing rune]

so the model in pot is wrong

[bright veldt]

I mean PoT's model is fine and I don't really have a problem with using old outdated names for alternate species (T. bataar is used for a rex species after all)

[blazing rune]

pot models<the isle models

[bright veldt]

If they want to be sticklers for paleo, the default could be nasicornis instead of denti, but it's not neccesary to push that

[blazing rune]

i like paleo accurate models

[bright veldt]

I mean in that respect PoT is overall better, even if still flawed in various cases. In the isle's case largely because they have no clue what style they want to go for and just kinda do whatever they want on impulse.

[blazing rune]

they go for paleo accurate models already why not for cera

[bright veldt]

PoT's cerato model is fine really. There's nothing really wrong with it. Eotrike, bars, kaiwhekea, rex, and pachy are all much more flawed by comparison.

[nocturne merlin]

bars? really? i thought that it was alright

[bright veldt]

It was fine back in 2019 but that was because the resources/reference for Bars back then were pretty crap

[blazing rune]

i like cera its my favorite dino so a bit of bias i just wanna play a accurate cera without it being hideous

which is why i like the isle more

[bright veldt]

This is the best Bars reconstruction out there right now tmk (Art by Lancian) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542776901442338816/1188972713704951888/IMG_5425.png?ex=65b827a0&is=65a5b2a0&hm=a8fac4a4d899ea9a5462039508d5ed772808f0e3311786bbff6c3185b99b7cd5&

[blazing rune]

Ewwww what is that

[sullen cairn]

the best bars recon is saurolophus

[bright veldt]

pff

[sullen cairn]

Bars is kinda stuck in limbo between being some edmontosaurini-type thing because php says so, literally just saurolophus because evans says so, and being some weird secret third thing because its obnoxiously unresolved

Antics ensue

[lavish frigate]

My favorite lather edmontosaurus regalis

LARGER. NOT LATHER.

[bright veldt]

Might as well go with this idea rn because the latter just means invalid taxa hell it goes

[sullen cairn]

Good

[compact leaf]

secret brachylophine bars

[sullen cairn]

The actual good ending

You see if I track the poorly resolved unstable glupshittos across multiple matrixes I can do pretty much anything I want with their affinities

[lavish frigate]

Secret basal ceratopsian bars perhaps (large taco)

[outer tusk]

Is my bars accurate to this

[compact leaf]

I’ll replace the bars holotype with brachylophosaurus and not tell anyone, just to cause strife

[light osprey]

If it has neural spines it’s accurate

[vast sparrow]

Did younger rexes really fill the role of mid sized dinos

[outer tusk]

Yes

[lavish frigate]

Probably

[vast sparrow]

Ok

[outer tusk]

Unfortunately Dakotaraptor is still kind of valid so yeah

[lavish frigate]

Has there been a deinon like study about juvie Rex teeth to see what they were eating?

[outer tusk]

The one juvenile Gorgosaurus study and tyrannosaurus rex morphology:

[sullen cairn]

would i be a bad person if i scaled the 81cm ceratosaurus skull with nasicornis instead of dentisulcatus to make it way taller

[lavish frigate]

Well ya but I meant how they figured out juvie deinonychus ate different food. It was like isotopes in the teeth or something

[sullen cairn]

for some reason i doubt juvenile tyrannosaurus were hunting multiton hadrosaurs and ceratopsids

[lavish frigate]

Well yeah…but big mama and big poppa were

[outer tusk]

Get that lame ass LOOP stuff out of there

[lavish frigate]

I don’t agree with LOOP 🫵 LOOP is goofy ah🫵

[bright veldt]

Eh it's valid in the same way random teeth in a formation are. Aka who cares.

[outer tusk]

True achillobator is better

[bright veldt]

I mean we can get a general idea of juvie rex from relatives. A study came out recently of a juvenile gorgosaurus with multiple young oviraptorosaur bones in its stomach. There's also a currently unpublished juvenile tarbosaurus with fish and gallimimus bones in it's gut.

[outer tusk]

Spinosaurid tyrannosaur !!!!!!

[lavish frigate]

I’m not arguing against juvie Rex filling a different niche. I’m just asking if a deinonychus like study has happened on them (said study being research on deinon baby’s teeth to tell they were eating different foods)

[sullen cairn]

bayan shireh has been said to be correlative with iren dabasu
possibility of iren dabasu tyrannosaurin
several workers lump asian tyrannosaur taxa into tyrannosaurus
achillobator lived with tyrannosaurus

[vast sparrow]

Why are there frieren characters as a size reference

[outer tusk]

what

[light osprey]

Despite DePalma being the individual that he is, I say it’s a fortuitous event we managed to find big Dromaeosaur material in the Dakotaraptor mess. A win for diversity

[outer tusk]

no

[light osprey]

Real

[bright veldt]

I love the Hell Creek Predator Guild

Tyrannosaurus ft. Acheroraptor (other things are there too I guess)

[vast sparrow]

Isn’t the character in the bottom left from frieren

[sullen cairn]

depalma erasure

[light osprey]

Oh I’m dumb

All the bad Palaeontologists are actually a singular collective

[sullen cairn]

"hell creek had one large predator mfs" when the naashoibito ziphodont saunters up to hell creek for winter vacation

[bright veldt]

Bro you're speaking a whole different language there

[white matrix]

Table spitballing random stuff 😭

[light osprey]

Mkay where the hell is Naashoibito, and do we have any pictures of what I assume are weird teeth

[white matrix]

convo on hell creek
table brings some random iren dabasu and naashoibito stuff

[outer tusk]

Should I add a sixth member to the team?

[white matrix]

Xenosmilus and titanus 🥺

[light osprey]

Guess I’m average IQ cause giant Teratophonein is cringe

[nocturne merlin]

so whats ur guys opinions on amphicoelias

[sullen cairn]

in that case you subscribe to ~74-73.5 Ma tyrannosaurus
you are now one step closer to taking the judith river tyrannosaurus pill

[bright veldt]

It exists. That's it. Goodnight.

[nocturne merlin]

is that... astrosaurs???

[light osprey]

The pill is in my hand, 🖐️ I contemplate the choice

[nocturne merlin]

that really reminds me of astrosaurs man

[sullen cairn]

[nocturne merlin]

l e g

is that really all there is of it?

[bright veldt]

To it's credit. Sauropod vertebrae is very diagnostic. It's the one time where a taxa being named on a single vertebrae is actually reasonable.

[light osprey]

Thus at least one species of Titanosaurus is valid

[nocturne merlin]

what about Bruhathkayosaurus

[bright veldt]

No

[outer tusk]

no Burhathkay sauropod is mid

[sullen cairn]

ojo alamo/kirtland

[outer tusk]

what

[nocturne merlin]

it just reminded me of astrosaurs

like the style

[sullen cairn]

i just realized we're also forgetting the famed hell creek deinosuchus

[outer tusk]

I see it but do you like it?

[nocturne merlin]

yess they are very nice

[light osprey]

The objective worst formation

[sullen cairn]

what's wrong with kirtland

oh god its hideous

[west coral]

no way there’s an updated version of the old altus?

[outer tusk]

oh new photo of bistah skull?

this is peak

[lavish frigate]

(Spoiler for Archesuchus project) just finished the part 2 of the ARG and dang…..that ended on a horribly sad note….