paleontology

[sullen cairn]

tier 4 brainrot

[crude latch]

What else lived in the red stage redassic?

[light osprey]

Pinkvenator roseae

[drifting bear]

What's the dinosaur?

[sullen cairn]

crimsognathus rojoxi

[steady rock]

@sullen cairn he's exactly 6foot tall

[crude latch]

Interesting are there any paleo art of these creatures, I’m quite interested

[tough parcel]

My eyes have been assaulted

[stiff osprey]

the redassic was known for red crabs, red velvet ants, red sea stars, and the apex predator, clifford the big red dog

[steady rock]

now, could you compare limayasaurus, gorgosaurus and muttaburrasaurus for me?

[drifting bear]

Oh hi gualicho, long ykme no see

[tough parcel]

Bawling, crying, sobbing perhaps even

Also olá

[drifting bear]

I read gorgosaurus 👀

[steady rock]

yes

[drifting bear]

Wait how large is it?

[steady rock]

we wait

[crude latch]

I’m gonna guess this is some close up skin details

[light osprey]

I’m guessing it’s a red bed sediment

[drifting bear]

Because gorgo is bigger than alberto right?

[magic jacinth]

Is loop a YouTube channel?

[tough parcel]

Same size, like literally…the same size

[sullen cairn]

laughs in 1.093m gorgo femur

[drifting bear]

I thought that gorgo was slightly larger

[light osprey]

Imagine Albertosaurus being smaller than Albertosaurus, would be quite the conundrum

[tough parcel]

I will turn you into a powdery paste, I swear

[drifting bear]

[sullen cairn]

but i wanted to be gravelly paste

[tough parcel]

Too bad, it’s the powder for you

[crude latch]

Wait what time periods were the Redassic near I can’t seem to figure that out

[humble willow]

the bluetaceous and the greenassic

[sullen cairn]

the roseattian and the mahagonian

[light osprey]

It’s the greentaceous smh

[humble willow]

you're a greentaceous

[crude latch]

How close were these to the ones we mainly know of

[light osprey]

Everyone knows Cretaceous = green. The greatest paleo trope of them all

[steady rock]

if you could eat a prehestoric creature, what would you eat

[drifting bear]

I'm sorry what?

[steady rock]

you heard me.

[crude latch]

Theri for thanksgiving

[drifting bear]

Probably a hadrosaur

[drifting bear]

👍

[light osprey]

Asteriornis, probably tastes like a bird

[steady rock]

imagine prehestoric seafood

[drifting bear]

That's going to always be well done. No sushi for that

[crude latch]

Dunk sewp

[drifting bear]

There'd be parasites everywhere

[light osprey]

Tasty

[drifting bear]

And I don't care how well it's marinated. You'd still get parasites from that

[sullen cairn]

@steady rock

[steady rock]

bro save limayasaurus

[tough parcel]

Huh? It’d be the same as any other animal? Prehistoric animals didn’t magically have a billion more parasites than modern day animals

[steady rock]

guys, is your heart on your left side or right side

[drifting bear]

Not quantity, but quality might be harder to treat

[drifting bear]

Why?

[humble willow]

it actually varies from person to person but usually i think it's the right side?

[tough parcel]

Parasites do not become flame resistant if they are from 70 million years ago, cooking the meat thoroughly will kill them

[sullen cairn]

guys you know you can like check where your heart is right
that's a thing you can do

[drifting bear]

70 million we ain't doing that homeboy

[light osprey]

Who said anything about cooking the meat?

[humble willow]

i forgot fire wasn't invented yet, mb

[steady rock]

would leed taste good

[tough parcel]

Me swallowing a Dunkleosteus whole for the protein boost

[light osprey]

I eating it raw

[sullen cairn]

bruh i read that as lead 💀

[humble willow]

https://tenor.com/view/drywall-garfield-gif-20108549

[steady rock]

i ate a lead pencil when i was 8

[sullen cairn]

there is leaded paint in the walls there is leaded paint in the walls there is leaded paint in the walls

[crude latch]

After doing extensive research I’ve learned that the redassic, Greentacous, blueasic, Roseattian, Mahagoniqn, Purpocene, etc are a part of the Cubism Era. This Era happened before the Precambrian and is true reason of why life exist.

[light osprey]

Welcome to the world of quadrilateraloidae

[steady rock]

i have a question, would pterosaurs be filling or are they too skinny?

[sullen cairn]

As usual this channel is made objectively worse on my behalf

[light osprey]

Take pride in your work

[sullen cairn]

Mission accomplished 😎

[sage cave]

I don’t see how talking about eating prehistoric animals is like

On topic? But u do u ig

[crude latch]

Probably pretty filling

[steady rock]

but they look hella skinny

[light osprey]

Nuh uh

[crude latch]

You look hella skinny

[steady rock]

i weight 180 pounds 😦

[light osprey]

I bet Gobipteryx tastes pretty good

[crude latch]

Fresh anurognathus bites

Forbidden Hatzeg Meat

[west coral]

Belemnite, Ammonite and Orthocone calamari would slap

[steady rock]

camptosaurus legs

[sterile trail]

Tyrannosaurus Tail

[jagged trellis]

a new documentary on netflix( i think) p mid one, possibly bad(some parts are def bad to say the least)

[white matrix]

Cough terror bird scene cough

That one was genuinely painful

[tiny holly]

My objective and true stance is that I think most pterosaurs honestly wouldn't be very good. They wouldn't have had a lot of meat on their bodies because they need to be light enough to fly. When you think about the commonly-eaten modern birds they're usually flightless or fairly weak fliers. The places with the most muscle would be the chest/wings but in most cases I imagine that meat would be incredibly tough and chewy, as is usually the case with muscles in animals that are used a lot. Pterosaurs aren't just using their wings to fly, they're using them to walk too so its not like bird wings where at least they're only flying with those. If you slow-cooked pterosaur wing meat I think you could have something pretty good, slow cooking can turn basically any tough cut into something decent. But I don't know that you'd have many more options, most other cuts of meat on a pterosaur would be very small.

If you domesticated some form of pterosaur into being flightless I think you could have a lot more to work with, you'd be able to breed for bulkier chests/wings without needing to worry about them needing to fly, and because they can't fly the meat wouldn't be as tough.

[sullen cairn]

for whoever was asking earlier, this is indosuchus vs dahalokely btw

might be erring on the side of mismatch

[ruby patio]

Don't discriminate against short kings!

[pseudo topaz]

Every time Morgan Freeman says the word "dynasty" take a shot.

[white matrix]

Id be in the bathroom by then

[tranquil quartz]

Gigantoraptor probably tasted amazing

[white matrix]

Rex tendies

[azure gazelle]

dreadnoughtus steaks

[rose thorn]

looks at ducks and geese

[lusty bough]

Psittacosaurus it has taco in the name make it’s lil bristles into a kebab

[sand silo]

Tanystropheus Tenders [not sure on how delicious it would be]

Granted i'd say Psittacosaurus would probably be the best option, since it would've probably eaten herbaceous plants and would move alot.[thus making it a good mid-tier between fatty and too lean] like Wagyu beef but chicken

[tiny holly]

They're definitely better fliers than most birds we eat, though I will put forward that domesticated geese/ducks bred specifically for eating are usually also pretty poor at flying :P

[white matrix]

https://digitallibrary.amnh.org/items/13b0485f-c73f-47f9-8d1d-0d4ab6aaedfb

@light osprey gonna like this new mosasaur

[tough parcel]

It’s only 5m long, silly

[white matrix]

L mosasaur

I just posted it cause ik chonk loves mosasaurs

[tough parcel]

Tbh, I’m fine with naming animals after cool mythological figures, but it’s a 5m mosasaur…I feel like if you’re named after the world serpent, you should be a decent bit bigger

[white matrix]

ngl never heard of that mythical beast

[tough parcel]

Really? Well, it’s a Norse(?) thing so

[heady thunder]

Yeah the big snake

[chilly knot]

It's the midgard serpent

[stray wren]

[insert spongebob womp sound]

[tough parcel]

@sullen cairn @west coral could one of you make a size comparison?

[stray wren]

What is bro waffling about /j

[tough parcel]

Erm, go eat pant ☝️🤓

[stray wren]

Don't have cow man

[tough parcel]

No

[light osprey]

Ooh very tasty

[lavish frigate]

No. Because it’s a fish that isn’t breaded catfish. There is no good fish other than breaded catfish

[tough parcel]

Ehhh, catfish tastes like mud to me, not so good

[sullen cairn]

@tough parcel

[tough parcel]

Nature is healing! Thank you, but why’d you remove person, L 😡

[heady thunder]

Laten ate it

[white matrix]

Stenonychosaurus* 🤓 👆

[lavish frigate]

Breaded catfish fried and dipped in the sauce of your choosing (preferably ketchup or ranch) is heavenly

[sullen cairn]

wake up
santonian rebbachisaurid

[white matrix]

@sullen cairn I need you can you compare smilo, arctotherium, and Hartmanns daeodon rq

[compact leaf]

the huh now

[stiff osprey]

stupid idiot creature

[sullen cairn]

copycat

[sullen cairn]

does hartman have a daeodon

[compact leaf]

so it’s a titanosaur trying to be a rebbachisaurid

[white matrix]

From what I heard yes I think (?)

Unless that’s someone else’s daeodon

[sullen cairn]

this one?

[white matrix]

Yea might be someone else’s, I forgor

[white matrix]

Ty

[sour vector]

I’m sure this has already been discussed but how accurate is the new eurhino

[west coral]

damn I leave for TWO MINUTES and a sauropod with a whole skull is discovered

[compact leaf]

where is it from?

[stiff osprey]

bajo de la carpa

[nocturne cairn]

Pretty good, only issue i've seen mentioned is it having small scales instead of smooth skin but it isn't bad. It's really good otherwise

[exotic helm]

Daeodon

[ocean brook]

Is Ubirajara still a genus or nah?

[sudden wind]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[tough parcel]

Then give me the real estimate L

[sullen cairn]

its a nomen nudum

[sudden wind]

Zietlow said on KOI something like 25 feet or so. Which is like 7,5 meters.

[west coral]

Also, THE coolest mosasaur name, Jormungandr

[tough parcel]

Didn’t see it, was buried in the whole “OMG IZ EUSTACE” convo, so not my fault

[frosty tree]

Thats a sick name.

[kindred night]

Amelia hit it out of the park on the description. It's phenomenal.

[pulsar nacelle]

Pig on steroids

[gaunt raven]

Daeodon is such an amazing animal I need on in PoT rn

[odd wasp]

@light osprey @white matrix

[white matrix]

Yes?

[light osprey]

Strange we were both @ lol

[white matrix]

they're account was made today so yk what that means

[light osprey]

Oh dear

[exotic quest]

oop

[west coral]

get ready to rumble!

[odd wasp]

Did Homotherium fossils from Alaska find enough evidence to support the existence of different species within Homotherium? @white matrix

[white matrix]

There was a lot of morphological diversity in homotherini but it didn't really prove the classification of different species within H. latidens nor H. serum, also there wasn't any strong reasoning for the american material to be classified as a seperate group (Dinobastis).

[odd wasp]

Lies

[white matrix]

wdym lies? we ain't playing this game again

[odd wasp]

you have no basis dude I do lol

[sullen cairn]

joins server
immediately pings two people
asks question
disagrees

wait lmao is that chatgpt

[white matrix]

Chatgpt moment, I'd recommend using an actual paper

[exotic quest]

NOT THE CHATGPT LMAO

[odd wasp]

ChatGPT say otherwise that paper is outdated

[sullen cairn]

holy crap this can't be real

[white matrix]

Give me an updated paper then?

[white matrix]

?????????

[sullen cairn]

do we really need to say anything here

[odd wasp]

What ChatGpt says is usually correct

[white matrix]

dude yk it didn't prove my point lol

[sullen cairn]

nuh uh

[odd wasp]

look through this

[white matrix]

What? you're not listing an actual paper my guy

[sullen cairn]

wow i have never seen those journals before thank you for enlightening me

[white matrix]

I mean I dont mind being proven wrong but chatgpt of all things

[light osprey]

How much free time does this troll have

[exotic quest]

orphans have quite a bit

[odd wasp]

Listen ChatGpt never gets things wrong, i asked it the same question and it gave a different answer than yours

[sullen cairn]

mate i hate to say it but if you want to spread misinformation at least make it high effort

[white matrix]

shocker also chatgpt isn't the best to use when it comes to paleontology lol

[light osprey]

Or a lot of niche topics really. Internet doing internet things

[odd wasp]

that still doesn't disprove what you said was right

[white matrix]

you can ask anyone here to look at the screenshot and i assure you they'll say what I said lmao

[compact leaf]

fr the trolls could at least step up their game every now and again

[sullen cairn]

my peer reviewed publication when ai chatbot

[light osprey]

The robot never lies 😤

[odd wasp]

Ok someone prove me wrong and i''ll listen

[white matrix]

i mean someone can repeat what i said if that helps lmfao

[sullen cairn]

man

[odd wasp]

Source?

[white matrix]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379113004654

[sullen cairn]

2014 smh too old

[odd wasp]

^ its from 2013, isn't as reliable

[sullen cairn]

YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO TAKE THE BAIT

[light osprey]

The bait was taken

[odd wasp]

but its true 2013 shouldn't be used

[white matrix]

💀

nah I must be dreaming this aint real

[sullen cairn]

and just like that 90% of scientific literature disappears

[exotic quest]

i mean at least it aint chatgpt

[odd wasp]

this is also from depalma so invalidates it

[white matrix]

what no its not

[light osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[exotic quest]

We need a moderator

[compact leaf]

you heard it here folks giraffatitan is brachi again the paper is too old to be taken seriously

[odd wasp]

its literally a discussion mods don't need to intervene

[exotic quest]

Oooo Koala is typing

[light osprey]

Tyrannosaurus was described quite a while ago, probably shouldn’t take that genus seriously tbh

[sullen cairn]

i know you're not supposed to feed trolls but this is funny

[white matrix]

Stop. Using. AI. As. A. Source.

[iron halo]

Is bro fr using chatGPT as a source

[deft sigil]

Please remain polite and respectful towards each other and do not provoke or antagonize other users.

Additionally, this channel is for educational purposes. Do not spam comments or continually use chat GPT, to troll others. Refer to our #rules

[odd wasp]

ofc we're just debating we'll try to keep it civil

[vocal breach]

It’s cool tho

[light osprey]

Not as cool as a regular Machairodont recon

[odd wasp]

it most certainly means machairodonts had bull-dog lips

[white matrix]

ChatGpt is knowledge is restricted to 2022 and before

[iron halo]

Yeah he’s trolling

[odd wasp]

Doesn't mean it isn't reliable for paleo stuff.

[white matrix]

Can it list sources?

[odd wasp]

Yes, i will show you

[keen forum]

now now closer to 7m

[light osprey]

Too late, L

[white matrix]

"cant provide sources"

[odd wasp]

thats not the point

[light osprey]

Literally says to use Google Scholar, you could just find the papers yourself silly goose

[tough parcel]

Smh Pronto, you silly goose

[light osprey]

I’m just a silly lil guy

It came to me in a dream

[tough parcel]

Bro, why are the mods so angry at innocent jokes, but when a troll actively seeks to start an argument, they go blind

[compact leaf]

paleo chat mods moment

[light osprey]

Me when I use a single gif (crimes against humanity (?))

[white matrix]

pings pronto and I
asks me a question
I answer it
says nuh uh
starts arguing saying chatgpt is a good source
mods don't do anything

[compact leaf]

and so it begins

[sullen cairn]

Y’know it’d be funnier if we just all unilaterally agreed with him

[tough parcel]

Like bruh, I posted a serious issue in paleontology and they deleted it for “muh outside drama” but when an active instigator is in the chat, they’re like “Ah it’s ok, just be respectful!”

[light osprey]

It’s also clearly a troll account so, is that evidence enough for ban again?

[tough parcel]

Actually that would be pretty funny ngl, good idea

[chilly knot]

i love democracy

[sullen cairn]

I respect the urge to spread misinformation but I expect more effort

[light osprey]

Troodon formosus recovered from the upper Pleistocene

[tough parcel]

Ikr? At least try to seem legitimate like Table and I

[west coral]

time travel‼️

[tough parcel]

Dinosaur Train is real???

[sudden wind]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[deft sigil]

A channel reminder to please view pinned messages for appropriate paleo-chat topics. This channel is for educational purposes. Please do not post off-topic memes or troll in here. Refer to all our pinned guidelines in every channel you plan to use.

[sullen cairn]

^ Like lamborlobator was an absolutely textbook misinfo campaign

[white matrix]

its funny how chatgpt was their go too though

bro defended it with all his life

[tough parcel]

“Please do not post off-topic memes or troll in here”

Hmm, though then again, that silly goose hasn’t said anything in a while, so maybe the mods did do something

[west coral]

the three horsemen of forgotten african titanosaurs that might give an insight of where some of the maastrichian fellas came from

[chilly knot]

[light osprey]

Oh no, you called them a silly goose 😱 💯 🗣️

[tough parcel]

I am doomed to be banned 😔

[white matrix]

😱

[light osprey]

Mods, ban her please 🙏 we don’t tolerate insults

[tough parcel]

:(((

Bro why was that message from the 27th 💀

[west coral]

send this person to the explosion chamber, immediately!

[white matrix]

its prontos old message he got from him

[brisk acorn]

Guys this is paleo chat

[tough parcel]

Oh 💀

[tough parcel]

You’re right…we should be doing paleo things for God’s sake!

Anyways, that Nanotyrannus, do be real, right?

[white matrix]

real

[compact leaf]

of course

[light osprey]

Yes, we have a neotype, 100% real

[compact leaf]

what kind of lunatic would say otherwise?

[white matrix]

xingkong

[brisk acorn]

jack horner

[tough parcel]

Sad that Montanaspinus was lumped into Nano-t, but it was for the greater good

[light osprey]

Nanotyrannus deniers smh

[chilly knot]

yes because Lungwitch said so

[west coral]

hell creek nano might not be real, but ajuga nano is

[sudden wind]

https://vxtwitter.com/fishboy86164577/status/1711421179477803348

[keen forum]

unlike ur MO.... african mosasaurid

[white matrix]

Tosha's art is banger

[tough parcel]

Erm, Neeco, there’s no ichthyosaur talk rn, off-topic and banned

[sudden wind]

[light osprey]

Mosasaurs only (maastrichtian)

[tough parcel]

I’m so confused, what does this mean

[sudden wind]

Alderon will get me

[sullen cairn]

Nano is a juvenile of the weird ziphodont naashoibito teeth

[west coral]

derailing the conversation is a mastery

[light osprey]

Behind the scene from PhP, didn’t know Orithomimus was so friendly

[white matrix]

camera man never dies ✊ 😔

nah not this guy

[tough parcel]

Oh lmao, he’s not gone, the mods didn’t stop the trolling they said was not allowed 🤔

[chilly knot]

So this is the time traveling spacetime manipulating cameraman

[white matrix]

💀

[chilly knot]

[ancient crystal]

"ChatGPT et al"

[tough parcel]

So uhhh @deft sigil I assume that this sort of trolling is allowed, but a serious article about exploitation in the paleontology workforce is deleted?

Like, it is very clear they are not exactly here for discussion, but I’m not a moderator here, so I would not know the detailed intricacies of the complex rules

[white matrix]

chat gpt et al, saving that

[graceful burrow]

Guys, can anyone clear my doubts?

[tough parcel]

The ultimate source…

[white matrix]

sure

[light osprey]

I’m stealing this joke format

[tough parcel]

What’s up captain, you don’t need to ask lmao, just blurt it out

[iron halo]

Anyway uh
I heard stuff about abelisaur bruhathkayosaurus, what’s that about

[sullen cairn]

Yes

[chilly knot]

haha

[light osprey]

Well formulated answer

[tough parcel]

Table’s head canon, ignore it because it is silly (It’s from Table)

[deft sigil]

I looked away from the channel, thank you for the ping to bring me back. Trolling the channel is indeed not tolerated

[graceful burrow]

@tough parcel If I buy a pack of 350 other than Rex, do I get another pack for free?

[tough parcel]

Oh… that’s for #path-of-titans or #qna

[sullen cairn]

The ilium’s more than likely actually a theropod, and said ilium is also bruhath’s holotype.

And the only big Indian theropods at the time were abelisaurids.

[iron halo]

That’s kinda funny ngl

[light osprey]

So, it must be and Indian Megaraptor

[sullen cairn]

Real

[white matrix]

fax

[tough parcel]

The mythical Indian tyrannosaur…

[sullen cairn]

…Indosuchus…

[white matrix]

...

[graceful burrow]

TK is it true?

[light osprey]

Fortunately so

[chilly knot]

wha

[sullen cairn]

🤷‍♂️

[white matrix]

sadly ye

[graceful burrow]

good. a YouTube two said that and I'm definitely going to buy it to see

[iron halo]

Do we know if the ilium is from an already described genus of theropod or not

[tough parcel]

Oh my god, I literally said go ask in #qna as they will provide a solid answer 😭

[sullen cairn]

Nah morphologically it’s just theropoda indet

[white matrix]

or #path-of-titans peeps too

[graceful burrow]

I don't know how to do it properly in DC, I'm Brazilian and I use a translator

[white matrix]

#português try asking someone there to ig

[graceful burrow]

Ok

[light osprey]

Anyone know what about the Yixian would’ve led such a large theropod like Yutyrannus to be so presumably densely feathered. Because to my understanding it’s a temperate climate

[sullen cairn]

Yixian was pretty cool by Mesozoic standards and did get snow iirc

[light osprey]

But like, how cold

[sullen cairn]

like alpiney type cold

looks like mean temperature of 5.9±1.7°C

[white matrix]

Chilly

[sullen cairn]

The discovery of the feathered gigantic dinosaur Yutyrannus huali suggests that feathers play a large role in insulation to resist cold environments (Xu et al., 2012).

[light osprey]

So, it’s properly cold. Everything makes sense now

[white matrix]

Did you think it was warm?

[light osprey]

Maybe like a really balanced temperate climate is what I had in mind

[storm heron]

Also keep in mind, we only have direct evidence of feathering to be present on the arm, lower end of tail, under the pelvis, in the pes region, and top of the neck of Yutyrannus. The rest is speculative.

[light osprey]

Everything else was scaly, just those patches were feathered

[storm heron]

Uh we also do not know about that. Like I said, the rest is speculative.

[white matrix]

paleo chat died

[heady thunder]

Just like the dinosaurs.

[white matrix]

true

[gaunt raven]

Just because we have evidence of only those spots doesn’t mean it’s unlikely that yuty was fully feathered, it’s actually more unlikely that only those specific parts were feathered and the rest was scales

[flint stream]

Hi guys

Can i join the chatroom. Cuz im bored, would i please join the chat. And what topic gonna be discussing

[white matrix]

uh idk do you have a topic?

[flint stream]

Anything that related prehistoric flora and fauna

[white matrix]

yeah ik but idk what to talk about either

[flint stream]

Same bro

[white matrix]

Whats your favorite extinct creature for starters?

[crude latch]

Thoughts on early Arthropods?

[white matrix]

cool dudes

[crude latch]

Very

[white matrix]

gabriel ugueto microraptor

[crude latch]

That’s sick

[warped peak]

hey

Anybody got a better Erythrosuchus skeletal I can use? David Peters is dies

[west coral]

Bad news, there appears to be none

but, you could use a mount

[ruby patio]

At least this skeletal doesn't have wings and six legs

[flint stream]

Let me think

[west coral]

After a little bit more searching I got one

[wicked mountain]

We actually have a mosassur named Jǫrmungandr walhallaensis this is getting funky

[white matrix]

Does anyone have the most upto date dinofelis ecology on what it was hunting? I’ve been hearing stuff like big game to small game generally confused at this point lol.

[bright veldt]

Ungulates

[white matrix]

Around what size? Say impala? Kudu?

[bright veldt]

Anyone’s guess really

[white matrix]

I see

[warped peak]

Hola lmao

[white matrix]

Hey

[steady rock]

@west coral are you online? me and table divorced and now i need someone to make me size charts

[sullen cairn]

Wait we did

[tough parcel]

I love how the 2nd party in this is completely unaware of the divorce

[west coral]

uh, yeah

[steady rock]

oh oops

you didnt pay that down payment on that closet

actually, looking at pug, i'll undivorce you table.

[steady rock]

yutryannus weighed 1.5 tons, correct? or is that too light?

[meager sedge]

Please try to keep this channel on-topic to paleo discussion, thankyou!

[tough parcel]

I suspect too light, but no-one’s done an updated GDI so idk

[west coral]

Was Prognathodon really as cosmopolitan as being found in nearly every continent?

[steady rock]

what apex predators were in prehistoric ENGLAND?

[sullen cairn]

its 1300-1600kg with the megaraptor gdi which is probably the closest thing that's not your wretched guanlong-based dorsal

[tough parcel]

With…with the what?

[sullen cairn]

the maip one

[steady rock]

why are we using megaraptors for yutyrannus

[sullen cairn]

not any worse than using a tyrannosaurid dorsal

[steady rock]

@bright veldt your smart right? would using a megaraptor gdi be a good or bad idea for yutryannus?

[bright veldt]

I would have no idea. Yutyrannus also has an actual gdi so I don’t understand the point.

[west coral]

there’s a few spinosaurs, Neovenator, a random torvosaurus, and megalosaurus iirc

[sullen cairn]

falcon rejects that gdi because he doesn't like that the dorsal's adapted from guanlong

[tough parcel]

😡😡😡😡 That is not how nature works

[steady rock]

torvosauurs itself?

[west coral]

No torvosaurus sp.

[sullen cairn]

there's a whopping 100kg upsize at 8.1m with the megaraptor one

[tough parcel]

There is no way a similarly-sized Allosaurus is 700-400kgs heavier than Yutyrannus

Pretty sure at least, or maybe I am spreading misinformation, who knows…it is up to you guys to find out!

[sullen cairn]

i shall whip up the size comparison

pretty picture of allo and non-tyrannosaurid coelurosaur/tyrannosauroid at same length

[sullen cairn]

neovenator when 3.5t riparovenator

turns out thats the one neo actually lived with

[west coral]

that’d be an interesting fight

[west coral]

Also ceratosuchops, but we don’t talk about him

[sullen cairn]

ceratosuchops has no actual skeletals even though its literally just a headswap

[boreal ore]

Tableseating i have been wandering what is that in your profile?

[sullen cairn]

sock puppet

[boreal ore]

Nice

[west coral]

Frankenstein time

[sullen cairn]

apparently tomato got it at 9.65m like a year ago

i got like 9.5m so seems to add up

actually i forgot riparo's axial length so maybe it is 9.65m in mine too

[sullen cairn]

wait a minute

falcon a 7.79m yuty isn't even 400kg smaller than a 7.79m allo using the old gdi
where'd 700kg come from

[storm heron]

Imagination

[west coral]

higher quality fella

[sullen cairn]

that's nice

[west coral]

slight fix

[crude latch]

Watcha y’all taking bout?

[west coral]

ceratosuchops

[crude latch]

Mmmm

I’m gonna act like I’m fully aware on what that is, Altho it is pretty ez to tell it’s a spinosaurid, a small one at that

[west coral]

fairly sized actually, but it and riparovenator are practically the same size

[crude latch]

For some reason it’s giving me dilo size vibes, altho dilo is a tad bit smaller iirc

[west coral]

it’s a fair bit smaller but I get what you mean

[crude latch]

I remembered dilo being bigger but he’s pretty teeny

[regal schooner]

Riminder that dilophosaurus is taller than a rhino

[crude latch]

True

[ruby patio]

Wasn't riparo over a meter larger

[warped peak]

I have tried my hardest but cannot find any Erythrosuchus bite estimates other than "comparable to a crocodile"

[sullen cairn]

suchops is ~91.5% the size of riparo

[storm heron]

Wasn't Ceratosuchops and Riparovenator lumped together recently or?

[sullen cairn]

sereno et al suggests they could be synonyms and scores em as a single taxon

but that's about it afaik

more recent stuff like irritator osteology still considers em separate

[regal schooner]

Honestly i see erythrosuchus having a stronger bite force than a salt water crocodile

Im guessing that its bite force reached 20,000 Newtons

But then again im probably wrong

[storm heron]

Ah, I see.

Though if they are both synonymous, I wonder which name would take priority.

[sullen cairn]

sereno et al places em both under ceratosuchops and the tribe's ceratosuchopsini so presumably ceratosuchops

[flint stream]

what are y'all talkin about ?

[regal schooner]

I used to think that argentavis hunted like eagles and hawks but evidently not, it was instead a ground predator like hatzegopetrix

[little star]

can I have this megaraptor in a better image quality?

[lean egret]

What is the most innacurate dinosaur in PoT? I assume it would be Kai (don’t uhm akhsually me)

[white matrix]

Euhrino imo. Kai just needs an anvil or something to fall on its head and lose its lips

[lean egret]

What’s wrong with Eurhino? Looks on point for the most part

[white matrix]

I read it as accurate 💀
So kai, rex you get it

[bright veldt]

The big thing with Eurhino is that it has scales. Aside from that it’s pretty fine.

[white matrix]

Oh i thought i was party wrong with my first shot but i guess i got something right

[lean egret]

Seems like Jiggy doesn’t know aquatics and fliers well

Kai and Thal have so many issues

[lean egret]

sorry for the ping but are the eyes wrong aswell? i’ve seen a few people say that

[gaunt raven]

It’s eyes are good

[snow python]

Is Kronosaurus still valid?

[lean egret]

I’m not sure why devs took the extra effort to add scales when it just had smooth skin like a dolphin though lol

[vivid bear]

[gaunt raven]

Yeah idk why they did that but Y’know PoT devs don’t have a great track record with the newer playables

[lean egret]

Kai and Thal💀💀💀

[gaunt raven]

Pynco 💀

[lean egret]

why did they make the accurate species not the main one??? so confusing

[stark pasture]

Because carno is more popular ig

[lean egret]

Why didn’t they just choose Carno then

[gaunt raven]

Literally

[vernal badge]

It was bigger then my room 💀

[light osprey]

Guess that means no pet Argentavis for you

[white matrix]

i want a pet argentinosaurus

[stark pasture]

Would be a hard pet to take care of and would also be dangerous to have. I would rather just be an argent irl then have a pet one.

[pearl briar]

i just wanna a Sinomacrops

[white matrix]

Who pinged me

idk

[heady berry]

@white matrix Is it true smilodon died near the end

[white matrix]

depends on the species but around 10-17 mya out of all felinae machairodontines had the highest extinction rate solely because they couldn't adapt to changing climate and changing prey, prey got faster and smaller which made it harder for larger machairodontines to keep up.

[heady berry]

no it was mostly due to them not being able to sharpen there teeth better for the killing blow

[white matrix]

uh that isn't a factor of why they went extinct doesn't even deliberately make sense.

[tough parcel]

Honestly I can see that, the knives at my work are annoying to use when dull…

[white matrix]

true

[heady berry]

How did prey got smaller? as i've been told megatherium was around sloth size

[white matrix]

it was not sloth size

[heady berry]

right but i think the teeth was probably the most certain driving factor

[white matrix]

That isn't a reason as to why they went extinct, literally no evidence

[heady berry]

I'll show evidence

[white matrix]

ok

[tough parcel]

Inb4 Chat GPT

[ancient crystal]

The teeth becoming dull as the animal ages seems to me as a factor for an individual's death, not the extinction of a species

[heady berry]

Daivd Peters mentions this @white matrix @tough parcel

[tough parcel]

Real…

[white matrix]

blud thats worse than chat gpt 💀

[heady berry]

don't call me blud you've asked for evidence

[white matrix]

and you're using daivd peters...?

[tough parcel]

Is this an alt? Is this real?

Someone call him a silly goose, see what happens

[white matrix]

i say lets agree with him its funnier

[heady berry]

finally someone with a sense of entitlement

[heady berry]

vWe’ve already seen several parallel origins for ‘bears‘, ‘whales‘, ‘turtles‘ and ‘tetrapods‘. Adding traditionally omitted taxa to a cladogram can deliver unexpected results.

As always competing cladograms with a similar taxon list are not only welcome, but needed for topology confirmation, refutation or modification.

[white matrix]

@white matrix this person tagged you

[heady berry]

What? I didn't tag them

[white matrix]

brother you have spam pinged in other servers

🤡

[tough parcel]

@dreamy lance Can we get a goober removal on aisle 3?

[white matrix]

Bruh

[real swan]

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[heady berry]

alright thanks mods

[white matrix]

they're a literal troll man the justification in this server is so ass (or troll in here)

got clapped, L

[light osprey]

Such a silly goose

[white matrix]

"do not call me a silly goose" 🤓 🫵

[light osprey]

😱 you said the thing

[ancient crystal]

The mods draw the line at canid homotherium

[white matrix]

he must have a lot of free time to troll every day

[light osprey]

At least it revives paleo-chat

[white matrix]

in essence I guess, i'd bet he'll strike again tomorrow but its obvious at this point if he asks anything about machairodonts and pings me its him

[light osprey]

He just luvs cats

[white matrix]

drueee

[ancient crystal]

I've always wondered if David Peters is serious or if he's spreading misinformation just because.

[west coral]

Lil fella

[white matrix]

i think hes serious he ""sees"" what other paleontologists cant

[gilded goblet]

Hi
Does anyone know where I can get images like this?
I would like to use them as a reference for mods

[fossil ingot]

Which is this?

[sullen cairn]

Generally you'll find em floating around different servers, deviantart, or twitter
theropoda and ornithischia are both public and have a lot of em

[fossil ingot]

Twitter or Discord Servers

That is how you get stuff like this

[light osprey]

There’s an Ornithischia server too?

[compact leaf]

there’s a sauropoda one too that I’ve been trying to get into for eons but it’s private

[gilded goblet]

Tyrannotitan

[warped peak]

I mean I see that as entirely reasonable too, but no idea

[snow python]

How big is Tyrannotitan after all, 12m and 7,4t?

[white matrix]

died like the dinosaurs 😎

[west drum]

Is this first one allosaurus?

[magic monolith]

first one looks like sauro

[bright veldt]

About that yeah

[fossil ingot]

Nice

[fossil ingot]

Sauro

[fossil ingot]

Yeah, its Sauro

[fossil ingot]

Yeah around that, it may not be the Biggest, but at pretty sure he is the bulkiest of them at same length
If they all had the same Length then Tyranno would be heavier than Giga
Sadly thats is just when equal length😭

[fossil ingot]

This is Allo

[gaunt raven]

What now

[ancient crystal]

Someone posted David Peters' canid homotherium and the mods immediately clapped it lol

[light osprey]

Not a David Peters fan smh

[gaunt raven]

Ah what even is a canid homotherium

Ik what a homotherium is but what is this canid nonsense about

[ancient crystal]

Its homotherium but bastardized

[light osprey]

Can I post the image for context?

[gaunt raven]

OHHH like a canine? I imagine that’s hideous

[ancient crystal]

Maybe, might get struck down for misinformation but probably not given context

[gaunt raven]

Just delete it right after

[light osprey]

(This is an incorrect interpretation, do not use this)

[white matrix]

Instructions unclear, used it

[gaunt raven]

That hurts to see ngl

[light osprey]

Let’s see if I get smited

[gaunt raven]

Same dude I wish someone woulda warned me 🙄

[gaunt raven]

Given how certain mods act that’s possible but as long as they read the context you shouldn’t get smited

[light osprey]

Just in case, I brought some real Homotherium

[gaunt raven]

10/10 homotherium

[boreal ore]

Giga wolf

[light osprey]

read the disclaimer

[boreal ore]

?

[white matrix]

@boreal ore

At the top

[boreal ore]

Ok

[chilly knot]

Common Machairodont W

[tranquil quartz]

Wait was someone using david peters as evidence earlier?

[white matrix]

man i just think deeply into this picture.

[eager topaz]

Popping this here cause I can't find a suggestions thingy: would it be possible to give Amarag a rattle shake as a threaten or something? Like, it's neck spikes hitting together when shaking?

[sullen cairn]

irl amarga had a sail not spikes

[eager topaz]

I know, I mean just in game for the 2 that have spikes showing

Twas just an idea for the game

[compact leaf]

this is paleo chat you’d be better off in #path-of-titans

[high kiln]

what are the two cats

@sullen cairn

[sullen cairn]

jaguar and smilodon populator

[high kiln]

how do we know dinosaur soft tissue when we dont preserve soft tissue

[sullen cairn]

infer from how tissue works in modern animals

or if the soft tissue is preserved

[high kiln]

like snakes?

[sullen cairn]

not snakes in particular

[high kiln]

which

[sullen cairn]

birds, crocs, and large mammals mostly i'd imagine

[high kiln]

mammals =/= dinosaurs

[steady rock]

i finally decided on a roster, a dinosaur with only european dinosaurs

[sullen cairn]

i only say mammals because they're the only extant analogues for tissue in large terrestrial animals
obviously you'd refer to archosaurs before mammals in pretty much any case

[white matrix]

💀

[sullen cairn]

i doubt preserved blood cells are that useful for reconstructing tissue
but the other things are prolly fine for some tissuing stuff

[steady rock]

stuck up today arent we?

[sullen cairn]

That’s more on the implications of tissue preservation rather than using it for a life reconstruction

[high kiln]

I understand your point. Preserved blood cells may not be directly useful for life reconstruction, but they do provide important implications regarding the potential for soft tissue preservation. These findings indicate that soft tissues, which include muscles, organs, and even parts of the nervous system, have the potential for preservation in certain conditions. While the direct reconstruction of life based solely on preserved blood cells is challenging, it serves as a crucial piece of evidence supporting the possibility of studying soft tissue aspects in ancient organisms.

To fully reconstruct aspects of an ancient organism's life, scientists rely on a combination of data, including the study of preserved proteins (e.g., collagen), comparative anatomy, advanced imaging techniques, and the overall context of the fossil site. These various approaches collectively help scientists develop a more comprehensive understanding of the biology, behavior, and physiology of long-extinct species.

[sullen cairn]

Pretty much yeah

[high kiln]

so why did you doubt me last time with chatgpt

[compact leaf]

I’ve actually talked to the paleontologist leading the team working with the preserved blood cells and collagens, her work is really interesting

[high kiln]

ok? point

[compact leaf]

it’s interesting and I wanted to say something, that’s the point

[sullen cairn]

Chatgpt is okay for general broad concepts and ideas like this, the problem is with specific details and niche information it tends to just make up sources

[stiff osprey]

we live in a society where people research via chatgpt

[compact leaf]

randoms chatgpt joker arc?

[high kiln]

i mean with the homotherium stuff, how do you know tk is right compared to chat gpt

[sullen cairn]

Because chatgtp makes up stuff a lot when it doesn’t actually know the answer

[stiff osprey]

I am going to become the dominion giganotosaurus

(Behave like a normal animal, suffer due to events out of my control and then die)

[sullen cairn]

If you ask for sources it usually links nonexistent articles

[high kiln]

ok why doesnt it make tk incorrect dude

[sullen cairn]

Because tk had a peer reviewed publication

[high kiln]

input uneeded we're in a discussion

[high kiln]

chatgpt searches through a database of peer reviewed publications tho

[sullen cairn]

But it needs to cite those specific publications to be reliable
If I were believe everything chatgpt said at face value than the largest abelisaurid is mapusaurus

[tepid grotto]

earliest record of dabbing homies up

[iron halo]

Did the dude make an alt or something

[compact leaf]

yep

[iron halo]

Should probably ping a mod

[high kiln]

bruh we're in a resonable discussion, im not being rude

[compact leaf]

what are you talking about everyone knows mapusaurus is the largest abelisaurid

[marsh tapir]

General chat reminder to please remain polite and respectful towards each other and do not provoke or antagonize other users. Refer to our #rules

[high kiln]

realistically though this is phylogeny not ecology

[sullen cairn]

These are from romualdo not alcantara

And mariliasuchus/gondwanatitan aren’t even early Cretaceous

[light osprey]

Looks like the troll has crafted another account

[tranquil quartz]

Is David peters supporter back?

[stuck chasm]

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[proper hornet]

What was the biggest almost fully terrestrial land croc/caiman/gator ever? Something like a Cuban croc for example but with long legs

[high kiln]

not my point

[high kiln]

i dont support david peters

[stark pasture]

razanandrongobe or saurosuchus

[proper hornet]

Mainly terrestrial

[white matrix]

woops i mis read the question

[proper hornet]

I was told falsolasuchus or something like that

[light osprey]

Gondwanatitan temporal range 23 million years

[bright veldt]

In terms of a terrestrial pseudosuchian, I think that’d go to Barinasuchus? 7 meters and 2 tons give or take. Fasolasuchus reached those metrics give or take as well.

[stark pasture]

saurosuchus is bigger iirc though they both monsters in size

[bright veldt]

Saurosuchus is like 6 meters

[proper hornet]

Barinasuchus was like 6.3-10 (according) to Google

Falso 8-10 is this accurate? or is Google spreading misinformation

[bright veldt]

Loricata have shrunken down a fair bit yeah

Fasola was the largest and it got to about 7 meters

[stark pasture]

google does that a lot ngl

[proper hornet]

Figures

[bright veldt]

A lot of it is less misinfo and more that the first source usually isn’t the newest or most reliable one. It might’ve been at one point but usually not anymore. Shoutout to Google talking about 15-18 meter mosasaurs (There’s no reliable mosasaur specimen over 13)

[proper hornet]

I used to think mosa was like 30M because of ark

Btw thank you both for let me know

[stark pasture]

Jw over here with its 200ft mosa lmao

[bright veldt]

Speaking of ARK I made this if you’re curious about irl sizes of its critters

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2143209976930466476/82D65592F6937D4097C31D2C1C9F817EF6A2B8AD/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[iron halo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536212506050297856/1067991246099992626/IMG_3424.png

[bright veldt]

Pffff

[bronze lake]

their mosa looks sick tho so 🤷‍♀️

[white matrix]

image is tiny lel, but cool

[bright veldt]

Just open in browser there was no other way to post it lol

[stark pasture]

Sucks it was never utilized much in any of the movies. It mostly just "looked sick"

[light osprey]

Quadrate my beloved

[tranquil quartz]

Well seeing as you used his canid homotherium earlier it appears otherwise

[white matrix]

Humanity really went down lol

[proper hornet]

Megalodon is huge

That's bigger than mosa right

[white matrix]

yes

[ancient crystal]

Speaking of meg, where exactly did the recent ~ 100 ton estimates come from?

I read the paper from last year talking about more reliable length estimates, but couldn't find where the associated weight estimate comes from.

[elfin pulsar]

Iirc it’s the second largest animal we know of period? Don’t know if that changed

[light osprey]

What are even the more reliable length estimates? I feel like I’ve heard so many for O. megalodon

[tranquil quartz]

Just realised dunk is still fairly big at 1 ton

[elfin pulsar]

It’s like similar in size to a Goliath grouper

[ancient crystal]

The perez et al paper seems pretty good to me.

Meg estimates are so variable because the relation between tooth size (?) and body length in Great Whites - which meg estimates are based on - changes depending on the position of the tooth in the mouth.

[tranquil quartz]

Really? I thought the largest Goliath Grouper ever found was like 300kg

[elfin pulsar]

Oh I wasn’t referring to mass

[tranquil quartz]

Ah my bad

[elfin pulsar]

Wait are they similar size or am I wrong

Coulda sworn modern dunk was

[light osprey]

So O. megalodon is one big tooth scaling shebang

[tranquil quartz]

Think you might have missed the terror birds Scan but who cares they are the lamest Ark creature

[ancient crystal]

Pretty much. The paper I mentioned uses a different method involving the average length to tooth size ratio in C. carcharias so it probably doesn't represent the absolute largest a meg could get, but a more probable size

[light osprey]

According to the size chart no, 2.5 metres for E. itajara to D. terrelli’s 5

[elfin pulsar]

O dang

[steady rock]

whats the largest european spinosaurid?

[light osprey]

Protathlitis I think

[steady rock]

why does no one talk about it?

[light osprey]

Cause there’s not much to talk about

[stiff osprey]

Was named last year off like 5 vertebrae

[steady rock]

oh, also, iguanadon wasnt very fast, was it?

[stiff osprey]

At 5 tons there aren't really any very fast animals

[tough parcel]

“Last year”

Random is getting senile in their old age

[steady rock]

i thought they were bigger then 5

[stiff osprey]

If you round up to the nearest full year we are in 2024

[ancient crystal]

Didn't know we were in the business of bending time here

[stiff osprey]

I just arrived at this party before I left uni to go to the party, so it might just be me

[tough parcel]

Maybe I am the old, senile one…

[bright veldt]

The genus name of ARK’s terror bird is “phorusrhacidae” which I think speaks for itself in how it’s meant to be a generic terror bird rather than any particular taxa

[white matrix]

Ive been living for literal thousands of years

[tough parcel]

Real

[bright veldt]

The largest megalodon being 100 tons has been supported by multiple studies since 2021. I did the full range of adult megalodon sizes on the chart for a reason. For a bunch of teeth there’s been a lot of research of megalodon size, morphology, and ecology.

[stiff osprey]

"Dinosaur paleontology is all scraps these days" mfs when you show them shark and mesozoic mammal paleontology

[tough parcel]

Something something shark and mammal teeth are diagnostic so erm

[stiff osprey]

Thanos is diagnostic, still sucks

[bright veldt]

Yeah that’s the thing. Idk how diagnostic shark teeth are but in most cases they literally don’t have a choice so it doesn’t really matter

[light osprey]

“Teeth. Teeth everywhere”

[ancient crystal]

I don't doubt those estimates, but are there links you could provide? I'm just curious because someone pointed out meg isn't too much larger than the largest whale shark and while yes they are incredibly different animals I'm not sure if morphological differences can account for the 80 or so ton difference between the two

[stiff osprey]

Try scaling up a great white, not exactly the same proportions as megalodon but you will get much closer results. A 6.1 meter GWS weighs 2 tonnes, so a 20.4 meter hypothetical max megalodon would weigh 78 tonnes

[light osprey]

Hey Wikipedia made a comparison

[bright veldt]

https://palaeo-electronica.org/content/2021/3284-estimating-lamniform-body-size

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9385135/

A few things to keep in mind in terms of the disparity of weight is that megalodon’s were chunkier for their length and also were overall more dense

Whale Sharks have less calcified bones cause they don’t exactly need the strong skeletal structure for fast swimming and cruising when they eat plankton lol

[ancient crystal]

Thank you, this is exactly what I needed 👍

[white matrix]

Im glad its taken more serious over dinosaur tooth taxa, rare mesozoic L

[ancient crystal]

Have any megalodon teeth been found together in what might be considered an articulated "skeleton"

So that we could figure out where different teeth fit in the jaw?

[tough parcel]

There is an alleged sub-adult skeleton, but last I checked, it was a hoax

[steady rock]

what was the largest european tyrannosaurid?

[tough parcel]

None-o-saurus rexicus

[solemn burrow]

How i get this game on my pc?

[ancient crystal]

Ah yes, paleontology, my favorite game

[light osprey]

Actually… I think there’s Maastrichtian Tyrannosaurid teeth in Volgograd, which is European Russia stuff

[compact leaf]

is there an island or small continent that corresponds to that?

[light osprey]

Ye
Well, it’s connected to Maastrichtian Asia

[compact leaf]

I’m too lazy to find the maastrichtian europe map, I know like the two biggest european landmasses we have basically nothing from though

[light osprey]

Map I have on hand currently, material is from that northern most European continent

[steady rock]

why did europe have no damn Ceratopsidae ?

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[steady rock]

oh.

[white matrix]

I thought Parrot came to join us on bone talk, guess only in my dreams

[steady rock]

mods cant have fun or interact with the community unless someone breaks the rules, their robots, but thats just a theory, a GAME theory

[ancient crystal]

I wonder if mods do ever interact casually with the community, like through alt accounts or something

[white matrix]

Also Parrot spelled it as "paleothology"

mods actually interacting with the community, without being robotic? this is wholesome

[white matrix]

I doubt it. They have to act this way and not the other due to community probably wanting to take petty revenge on those mods involved since our mods have their own private accounts. I really respect them for that, it takes courage and bravery to not let people get to you, but thick skin grows over time and experience.

Anyways. Bones. Theyre cool right?

preserved skin is better 😎

[ancient crystal]

I've asked this a few times and never got a response but, whatever happened to the T. rex soft tissue that was found?

[sullen cairn]

centrosaurines barely got into asia as far as we know and europe's a pretty long walk from china

[white matrix]

Dis cool as well

[light osprey]

I’d wager there’s probably Leptoceratopsids/Proceratopsids in that northern region of Europe

[tough parcel]

The only “soft tissue” I am aware of for Tyrannosaurus is medullary bone in B.rex, Petey and maybe some random third individual

[ancient crystal]

It was either soft tissue or blood cells.

Istg if I'm somehow making this up in my head without knowing it

[light osprey]

Also the Tyrannosaur material in Volgograd was apparently attributed to Tyrannosaurus so, Tarbosaurus in Europe maybe?

[white matrix]

Tarbosaurus in Europe ? So cool

[mystic lake]

Or a new species

[light osprey]

….of what

[mystic lake]

Tyrannosaurid

[light osprey]

I thought you were indicating species referral to a known genus lol, mb

[tough parcel]

I vaguely recall it in a documentary, but idk anything else

[mystic lake]

Ah no not really

[ancient crystal]

Yeah, like a femur was split open or something and lo and behold stuff

[white matrix]

I think you are talking about B.rex

[ancient crystal]

Maybe

[white matrix]

The one T.rex that was described as female ?

[sullen cairn]

gib

[light osprey]

Gib (?)

[sullen cairn]

give

[ancient crystal]

Idk if that was included in the docu I'm thinking of, but yes, B rex is a female specimen

[tough parcel]

Potential female*

Apparently medullary bone also forms in response to injury

[ancient crystal]

Oh, yeah, that

[mystic lake]

Maybe male concurrence for females

[tough parcel]

What?

[sullen cairn]

yes

[mystic lake]

Display fighting

[ancient crystal]

How complete is B-rex? Like could we tell if they had been injured to the point of producing medullary bone?

What kind of injuries leads to the production of medullary bone?

[mystic lake]

Or males fighting for mate a female

[light osprey]

Let me find a paper

[tough parcel]

Oh…you could’ve said “Maybe the bone formed in response to male disputes”

But also, it’s a Tyrannosaurus rex. They are known to lead extremely violent lives, so I’m sorta iffy on attributing injury only to mating rituals

[light osprey]

https://repository.geologyscience.ru/bitstream/handle/123456789/39408/Aver_04.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

Aha, it’s not a Tyrannosaurus

[mystic lake]

Yeah I’ve expressed myself badly and i know that theropod can had been really violent with it's relatives and preys

[tough parcel]

Scotty’s really banged up according to the plaques surrounding the exhibit, but idk

[mystic lake]

I know it's out contest yet what are your favourite period? Ex Carboniferous, Devonian etc…

[white matrix]

man i can never get over how funny hinkles skull is

[ancient crystal]

What is a "hinkles" and where can I learn more?

[white matrix]

hinkle is an allosaurus specimen, where you can learn more uhhhh

[mystic lake]

You mean Hinkle

With a capital letter

[white matrix]

😔 ye

[mystic lake]

It's ok

I know it's out contest yet what are your favourite period? Ex Carboniferous, Devonian etc…

[white matrix]

Cenozoic (totally no bias towards the pleistoscene)

[mystic lake]

Oh ok good choice

[light osprey]

We dealing in periods or eras

[white matrix]

probably meant eras

[light osprey]

Eoarchean gang ✊😤

[woeful falcon]

I thought B rex more confidently seen as female. Compared to say big al which was with pathologies

[compact leaf]

from what I know it is pretty confidently seen as female

[steady rock]

so tyrannosaurids can be in europe but not damn centrosaurines?

[woeful falcon]

I don't known a single tyrannosaurid from europe

[sullen cairn]

me

[woeful falcon]

I know one tyrannosaurid from europe

[light osprey]

The Earth simple doesn’t get better than this

[steady rock]

eotyrannus

[woeful falcon]

Is not a tyrannosaurid

[steady rock]

then why is called eoTYRANNOSAURID

[sullen cairn]

checkmate atheists

[woeful falcon]

Its a tyrannosauroid

[steady rock]

whos that

[sullen cairn]

the one that all people fear

[light osprey]

He’s him

[steady rock]

kg?

[sullen cairn]

lawrence

[woeful falcon]

True

[steady rock]

what about juratyrant?

[light osprey]

Also a Tyrannosaur

[sullen cairn]

refer to the pretty picture

[woeful falcon]

There they are

[sullen cairn]

ignore alioramin dryptosaurus WAIT THAT WAS ACTUALLY A THING

[light osprey]

Nah

[steady rock]

where do you see that?

[sullen cairn]

this is viscerally upsetting

[woeful falcon]

Crazy

[steady rock]

would it look the same even if it was a alioramin?

[pearl briar]

Tyrannotitan chubutensis GDI:

GDIed by Derpy.stego, Multiview reference composition by Derpy.Stego & Lateral from 4LPH48, Dorsal and anterior by Dan Folkes Adapted to fit proportions.

(All masses use 0.97-0.99 density)
MPEF PV 1156; 5355-5465kg
Length along the centra: 10.47m

MPEF PV 1157; 7324-7475kg
Length along the centra: 11.63m

yeah but it's more like 10.4-11.6m and 5.3-7.4t

[white matrix]

11-13 meters and 6-8 tons

Can’t say anything specific, but this is how large my recon ended up

[stable notch]

https://youtu.be/cBQmTdElvas?si=IZml4IOu7lPi0N65 Honestly I wish I could see this model in person, it's so beautiful but I have no idea which museum its at

[woeful falcon]

It says the museum within the first 5 seconds of the video

[stable notch]

a

My brain skipped past that, I am dumb

[light osprey]

Welp, have fun going to see the Sue model

[woeful falcon]

I looked at vid description and it said it there too, and I was gonna say that but then thought "nah. Lemme just check the video real quick"

[keen forum]

11.6m and 6.9tons iirc

[nocturne cairn]

it's currently not at the Field Museum, that was just where it was first displayed. i think atm it's displayed at a museum in Canada. saw someone posting pics w/ it a couple of months ago

[regal schooner]

GRRRR THEY FORGOT SINOTYRANNUS IN THR PROCERATOSAUR FAMILY

OH THEY DIDNT FORGET IT

IT JST DOESENT HAVE A SHILLOUHET

[light osprey]

Ew, Proceratosaurus crest

Superior Sinotyrannus

[sullen cairn]

nice argument
however, instead of a bigger proceratosaurus, i have reconstructed the animal as a bigger yutyrannus

[woeful falcon]

🥱

Big proceratosaurus way cooler than another allosaur wannabe but with a different name and less material

[woeful falcon]

Not this one tho this stinks

[light osprey]

Real?

[regal schooner]

[regal schooner]

Sinotyrannus my beloved

[sullen cairn]

ya guys got it all wrong

[regal schooner]

I refuse to believe that this is a sinotyrannus

[lean egret]

what is the difference between ceratosaurus dentisulcatus and ceratosaurus nasicornis?

[bronze storm]

Where is this

[bright veldt]

None. C. dentisulcatus are just older nasicornis

[lean egret]

wait so it’s not valid or what

[light osprey]

It’s a synonym of the original species

I think, don’t remember if someone’s published anything on it just yet

[white matrix]

What a shame

[bright veldt]

Nasicornis is valid, Denti isn’t

[steady rock]

how accurate is eurinos pounce? https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1109922449425973350.webp?size=64&name=4ktroll&quality=lossless

[sullen cairn]

reason #3470230423048 urc 44-r isn't pycno: pycno lived in a fluvial plain while urc lived in a literal desert with barely any water

[west coral]

Is this acceptable for Polacanthus or is there anything else?

[light osprey]

What kind of desert

[sullen cairn]

dunes and stuff

[steady rock]

table

anyone?

[sullen cairn]

Yeah

[steady rock]

whats the top 5 largest european carnivores?

[sullen cairn]

Assorted megalosaurid material

[light osprey]

The best kind of desert

[white matrix]

Sonoran desert is more intersting

[light osprey]

Nuh uh

[light osprey]

I like my deserts lifeless and ethereal

[steady rock]

that has a name

[sullen cairn]

torvosaurus gurneyi, protathlitis, "vectispinus", wiehenvenator, riparovenator

[steady rock]

i thought edmarka rex would be there

[sullen cairn]

edmarka's from north america

[steady rock]

what.

[sullen cairn]

edmarka isn't from europe

[steady rock]

everythings bigger in morrison ig

[sullen cairn]

NA and european torvo's max out at like the same size

[steady rock]

oh.

you think iguanadon and dacentresaurus could fend it off?

[light osprey]

Was Torvosaurus present in SA?

[sullen cairn]

uruguay

[steady rock]

answer my question 🤬

[sullen cairn]

a giant iggy could probably fend off a big torvo theoretically
i forgot how big dacent is but iirc its pretty big so it prolly have a decent shot too

[steady rock]

ty, i wont flip you

[light osprey]

That is rad

[steady rock]

wait, how big could iggy's size range from?

[stray wren]

Iguanodon could get rather large

[steady rock]

i knew that, but how big?

[sullen cairn]

6t tops (i've heard someone talk about larger ones out there but random doesn't seem to like em)

[stray wren]

T. tanneri was about 2-3tons, with T. gurneyi being 4-5

[light osprey]

Nuh uh

[sullen cairn]

me when i don't include absolute largest sizes (they are based off teeth and arms)

i say that when there's also a 5t gurneyi

um this is probably fine or something i hope

[stiff osprey]

they are based on material referred to iguanodon in 1828

Of course they were referred to Iguanodon it was literally the only dinosaur around

[bright veldt]

T. tanneri gets to similar scales as gurneyi. Gurneyi is slightly larger but only by a minute amount.

[sullen cairn]

yeah but like 8t iguandodon sounds cool

iguandodon

[stiff osprey]

Iguandodon giganteus n.gen.et.sp

[sullen cairn]

real

[west coral]

We have Iguanacolossus, why not Iguanotitan?

[west coral]

womp womp

[stray wren]

Torvo would get clowned on

[white matrix]

whos dacen skeletal beagliam?

[west coral]

Yeah

[compact leaf]

I have been severely underestimating how big dace is

like I knew it was big but good lord

[sullen cairn]

stego said liam's dacen is questionable for reasons he never elaborated on

[tough parcel]

Yea, that’s Stego

[stray wren]

Ur Stego

[sullen cairn]

falcon if he was british

[light osprey]

Is it the torso proportions?

[sullen cairn]

that's a secret only stego knows

[light osprey]

[stray wren]

The front legs do feel a little... off

[tough parcel]

Trug…

[stray wren]

Trug

[sullen cairn]

as usual i get more confused the more i look into it

[pearl briar]

i'm not mentioned to be rude but i'm still waiting for this

[tough parcel]

I can give you top 3

Nvm, you said lengths, I don’t feel like it anymore

[woeful falcon]

My man that was from a month ago

[sullen cairn]

nearly half of these are skull fragments but whatever

[stray wren]

I'd answer you but I'm too tired to scale 7 theropods

Deinocheirus casually shooting into the top 3 overnight a few months ago

[sullen cairn]

no

[stray wren]

Eat pant

[pearl briar]

is this based from this?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GVpHchzogtjkTqQrP7PFM2BAWMGHYHABD-Xnk_6KPj0/edit#gid=0

[sullen cairn]

me when my questionable gdi is 100kg larger than my rostrum scaled from material more than half the supposed mass of said rostrum

[sullen cairn]

yup

[gaunt raven]

Someone get this man his sizes (nevermind he got them ignore me)

[woeful falcon]

This conversation right now

[gaunt raven]

Yeah I realized that

[sullen cairn]

the only theropods i like making size lists for are abelisaurids because nobody else has tried scaling half of em so no one can question my outlandish claims

[stray wren]

78ton Carnotaurus

[woeful falcon]

Outlandish clams

[gaunt raven]

78t mujungasaurus

[stray wren]

78ton Thanos

[gaunt raven]

87 ton rugops

[sullen cairn]

and by outlandish claim i mean exciting stuff like "elemgasem is 50cm shorter scaling with reconstructed appendicular dimensions" or "niebla is 1m longer than the description says"

[gaunt raven]

Ah

[sullen cairn]

so wacky and silly of me

oh and the indosuchus thing but we don't talk about that

[tough parcel]

Indosuchus…Indo…Indo rex…Indominus rex

[stray wren]

What is bro waffling about

[sullen cairn]

indonesia

[tough parcel]

Me

[gaunt raven]

Gualicho doing their daily yap sesh rn

[west coral]

I misread that as ilokelesia

[compact leaf]

me when I enter my fragmentary sauropod scaling arc

[stray wren]

The Bissekty Giant..

[tough parcel]

Ugh…shur up…shakes butt

[stray wren]

What

[tough parcel]

Have you not seen that stupid cat image? How have you not seen the one cat image I reference

[stray wren]

I see a lot of cats falcon

[tough parcel]

Crying!

[sullen cairn]

the bissekty carcharodontosaur? dromaeosaur therizinosaur

[stray wren]

The bissekty toe bone

[sullen cairn]

the b

[pearl briar]

thx for the help @sullen cairn

[sullen cairn]

if you're including mcraensis you might as well have dentary giga

[woeful falcon]

I wouldn't even bother with mcraensis just bc its not yet a thing really. That's confusion waiting to happen

[steady rock]

how much did dace even weigh

[ruby patio]

People when they scale Giga's dentary: 😡
People when they scale a speculative species of Tyrannosaurus based of an unpublished abstract (which is also a dentary):

[dry kindle]

What is the main trait shared among squid eating animals? 🤔

[compact leaf]

there isn't exactly one shared trait for eating squid, a lot of things do it in a lot of ways

[dry kindle]

Could you list some traits that would help catch squids?

[tough parcel]

Sharp teeth, a mouth, fins

[compact leaf]

pretty much yeah

[dry kindle]

That's pretty bare bones, makes sense though

Could somebody also give me a good size estimate for platecarpus tympaniticus?

[light osprey]

Quadrate scaling has entered the chat

[white matrix]

tooth sca-

[west coral]

4.5T

[compact leaf]

I should follow in larramendis footsteps and start tooth scaling random sauropods in increasingly unhinged ways

[white matrix]

True

[steady rock]

AINT NO WAY IT WEIGHTS 4.5 TON AND IS THIS MASSIVE

[white matrix]

You’d be surprised

[steady rock]

aint no way dace is that big, compare it to stego

[compact leaf]

44 ton 26m rebbachisaurus

[white matrix]

We don’t talk bout that

[compact leaf]

I have nightmares about it

[white matrix]

I could envision that

[light osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-believe-believe-believer-gif-18784107

[crude latch]

So just to be clear Dakotaraptor like, never existed?

[compact leaf]

there is large dromaeosaurid material mixed in there but it's not available for study, so we're in the dark at this point

but yeah most of the material is likely not a raptor (and the stuff that is dromaeosaurid is estimated at about deinonychus sized)

[tough parcel]

Probably a bit bigger than that, but yea, not available to study so

[crude latch]

Ye there’s a arguement in #modding and I was wondering if y’all smarties could help

[white matrix]

If anything I imagine the Dromaeosaur bits at the most optimistic may just be large Archeroraptor specimens

[tough parcel]

No

[tough parcel]

After conversing, I’ve learned that Acheroraptor’s type is a sub-adult, meaning that it’s likely not growing ~500% bigger in the last bit of its growth

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831073252599529523/1169475155999862874/IMG_4664.png?ex=6555899c&is=6543149c&hm=05d7e4378d191984e677ce3440642ae875d3774510a7039c0a12bb11d2aab8dd&

Hypothetical adult Achero size with projected Dakotaraptor sizes based on both specimens

[light osprey]

Hey, mesopredator is mesopredator 🤷‍♂️