survival-test

[pallid forge]

Hatz usually attracts the worst kind of player so it fits.

[graceful sequoia]

its unfortunate, wanting to like the playable but just- blegh

[wheat cargo]

Not surprising tbh. I'm just sad and dissapointed hatz is designed in a way that enables exactly this type of awful behavior. Wasted potential.

[pallid forge]

Had a nice 1vs1 with a Metri and almost died. Barley escaped with the last amount of stamina and hp

[steep saddle]

they are dead

[hasty willow]

We got them

Oddy killed one and the other drowned after we chased it into the water

Sorry if I hit you Oddy

[steep saddle]

nah you didnt, sorry if i hit u

nightling if youre still around i have the trophy

[hasty willow]

Awww thus one doesn't have a trophy

Oh well

[steep saddle]

small sub oh well

[hasty willow]

It's dead now lmao

Watch out in case thet come back to revenge kill

[steep saddle]

itll take them an hour lol

[hasty willow]

Sometimes they have two Hatz slots

[steep saddle]

oh yea

[graceful sequoia]

reminds me someone calimed once hatzeg were somehow able to group up.

[hasty willow]

Happened to me on my Meg

[graceful sequoia]

by any chance did you get a replay ?

[hasty willow]

No, sadly. Just got killed not even 3mins after killing an adol Hatz

[azure sand]

lol so I posted the glitch where I can invite friends into the server but goofed on the video in the first post so had to make a second post

[hasty willow]

They T-bagged me afterwards, so I figured it was the same person

[graceful sequoia]

besides that good job, being kings out there 💪

[graceful sequoia]

bug reported it?

[steep saddle]

you got killed???? by whay

[hasty willow]

Amything to kill Hatz

[azure sand]

Yea

[graceful sequoia]

bc i bet ppl abuse the hell out of it

nice

[hasty willow]

Two Hatz on my Meg

A while ago

[steep saddle]

ohhhh

[hasty willow]

My Stego is still fine

[steep saddle]

thank god

i was Worried if something could kill a stegp that fast

[hasty willow]

A rex probably could

If it could catch me

[graceful sequoia]

a perfect world with no rain every 5 mins going for 30 mins straight

[hasty willow]

Beautiful

Headed back to Savannah now lmao

[steep saddle]

same hoping to find a baby to hand the crushed bone to

[graceful sequoia]

lmao had a sarco charge at me, i jumped over it and it seemed to just change its mind

[hasty willow]

Lmao a Dasp tried to fight me

It ran real quick after I hit it once

[graceful sequoia]

big one or

[hasty willow]

Yes

[steep saddle]

just saw it lol

[graceful sequoia]

lmao are u iggy or smth

[hasty willow]

Stego

[graceful sequoia]

i see

[hasty willow]

Dasp is following you Oddy

[steep saddle]

if he knows whats best he wont try it bc i can facetank him

[hasty willow]

There's a chicken in this tree lmao

[steep saddle]

bird in the tree, where it belongs

respecting the 1v1 i just wanna watch

[hasty willow]

He's almost dead down there

He has knockback though, not gonna risk getting knocked off lmao

[steep saddle]

valid

[hasty willow]

Stego hits hard af though

I wasn't even adult yet

[graceful sequoia]

may you be blessed by living a long life rex i just met - kai

[hasty willow]

And I didn't have Fresh Blood

[drifting pecan]

I believe this was known since day one/soon after

[steep saddle]

yeah stego's good

[azure sand]

Damn is it? I just made a post with a video about it

[graceful sequoia]

ig stego becomes bad when it has to face a horde of 10+ mixpackers

[steep saddle]

its definitely prone to getting ganked yes

but thats because its good

[drifting pecan]

I believe so,.. pretty shure the main bug was getting in through friends on path of titans list, leave ur report up, maybe it will help get the issue seen more!

[vague patio]

oh I safe logged but sure

I doubt u still have it tho lmao

[steep saddle]

nah i gave it to a deinon, they need all the help they can get

also an achi is stalking me lol

[vague patio]

tru

what are u now

a berta?

[steep saddle]

yeah

[hasty willow]

Beat the Achi up lmao

[vague patio]

berta slams achi so just kill it I guess

[hasty willow]

We killed the Hatz that were 2v1 you

[steep saddle]

im letting him know i know hes there

[vague patio]

ye very nice haha

I just safelogged to avoid them but that's awesome

[graceful sequoia]

achi are so puntable, cant put my finger on why

[steep saddle]

mohawk

[graceful sequoia]

lOL

[vague patio]

the average achi player is either 11 or a sweaty basement dwelling 35 year old

[graceful sequoia]

i just dont like their entire vibe ngl

[azure sand]

I was going to say I can’t invite friends on normal solo but I can on perma death

[graceful sequoia]

actually true

[drifting pecan]

Oh! That is interesting then! I just looked at ur report, good a mod looked at it ,.. hope something good comes out of it for ya!

[hasty willow]

This is true

[steep saddle]

3 pycs killed me :(

but also killed one of their friends in the process so i mean i guess i cant be too mad

campto time

[vague patio]

my meg died to 3 pycs yesterday

[graceful sequoia]

unfortunate

[steep saddle]

its never just one pyc

[vague patio]

funny how pyc groups are the only oppressive force in the game rn

[graceful sequoia]

campto sounds intruging ngl

[steep saddle]

i love campto

[graceful sequoia]

should be fast enough to escape most things

[steep saddle]

yes i think its the fastest dino in the game when it has hop

[buoyant cloak]

how is ocean sarc rn?

[graceful sequoia]

it only takes one wrong leap and its all joever

[hasty willow]

I'm sorry, I would have helped you if I hadn't logged off 😭

[buoyant cloak]

almost 2 hours 🗣️

[steep saddle]

its ok! needed an excuse to play campto lol

i did my best and they all looked rough by the end

well they both looked rough at the end, one was dead

[hasty willow]

At least you took one with you!

[steep saddle]

oh no it was funnier, one of them charged into his buddy when id gotten him low

[hasty willow]

That's hilarious

I love getting people to kill their friends when they try to jump me

[steep saddle]

im saving it hold on

[buoyant cloak]

same server

[steep saddle]

itll probably take a minute for it to load onto my phone

but i do have the torpedoed thal clip ready

[buoyant cloak]

yesss

[hasty willow]

That Thal either wanted to die or tried to hit you with it's whole body

[graceful sequoia]

💀 blud came legit crashing from orbit

[steep saddle]

now for the excrutiatingly long wait for the clip to load onto the playstation app

[vague patio]

console player moment

[steep saddle]

ikr

[hasty willow]

Felt that 💀

[steep saddle]

its better for me this way otherwise this game would be a genuine addiction

[vague patio]

yeah that is a slight issue I have

[hasty willow]

It's already an addiction for me and I'm playing on ps5

[steep saddle]

yeah same dfhjkglsk

[hasty willow]

I'm cooked once micro drops

Micro is legit my favorite dino

[steep saddle]

i just. love ankle biters

[hasty willow]

Honestly, I don't even care what it's playstyle is gonna be

I'm gonna play it no matter what

Because I love my goofy little bird

[steep saddle]

calling it that im gonna drop everything and itll be my main even if it does no damage

[hasty willow]

Same

[graceful sequoia]

im drawn to more passive animals tbf, ramph, kai, i can kind of sit back and not worry abt pvp all the time
so micros gonna be a fav aswell i feel

[hasty willow]

Honestly, I didn't like Rhamp at first

But then I suddenly loved it

It's a lot of fun

Micro is gonna be my main

No questions about it

[steep saddle]

hes very. how you say. "scrungly"

[hasty willow]

Exactly!

It's also fun to laugh at people who try to kill you.

[steep saddle]

its how i feel about conc too, very ugly but in an endearing way

[azure sand]

What do y’all think are the odds i would get a bug skin for that post?

[steep saddle]

like some mangy cat

[hasty willow]

Conc was the second dino I ever made. I'll have to try to get one to adult on here.

[hasty willow]

You'd have to ask I think, I'm not sure how they get handed out

[hasty willow]

I especially like the Quilled one

[azure sand]

I thought u have less of a chance if u ask

[steep saddle]

EXACTLY

[hasty willow]

I don't actually know tbh

[hasty willow]

It just looks better than the other two subs

Also, extra stam regen is always good

[pallid forge]

I'm constantly close to starving with my Achilio. Whever I want to hunt, bigger carnivores show up and ruin my plan and I don't find enough critters to fill me

[steep saddle]

its easily the most washed up looking one and therefore it is the best

[hasty willow]

Hey, at least my Iggy was a good meal for you!

[hasty willow]

Exactly! I'm glad someone else feels the same way!

[hasty willow]

I'm sorry people keep interrupting your hunts. I hate when people do that.

[azure sand]

If u buy a skin then die do u still have that skin when u regrow?

[pallid forge]

It is what it is. There was a trio of pycmos that annoyed me. Ruined 2 hunts and tried to hunt me afterwards

[steep saddle]

yes

[azure sand]

Sweet

[hasty willow]

It's always Pycnos bro 💀

[steep saddle]

NO

my baby died

apparently eos can hit under+behind their heads with the headbutt attack

it was an accident

[steep saddle]

were you in savannah by chance when they chased you

[pallid forge]

yes

[steep saddle]

mowhawk achi?

[pallid forge]

yup

[steep saddle]

were you the one following my berta??????

[pallid forge]

That little trike like dino? Maybe...

[steep saddle]

lmaooo

i would hardly call it little but i wouldnt try with bertas on achi you'll get destroyed

oh here it is

the clip

of my valiant attempt at survival

[vague patio]

3 of them and one still managed to die omg 😭

[steep saddle]

if it was two i think i would have been able to get them

but also the charge was definitely the thing that killed that one and it was funny

[vague patio]

well those guys seemed worse than awful

but it's pyc so it doesn't matter lol

[steep saddle]

pyc probably needs a speed nerf

[vague patio]

bring it down to 1050, it has charge anyways

[steep saddle]

yeah

[vague patio]

at least sucho is fun so dar

far*

[graceful sequoia]

lmao that was lovely timing

[steep saddle]

dasp also should get a speed nerf

there is no reason why it should be able to keep up with a campto hop at any stage of growth

[vague patio]

dasp isn't as fast as that at all, it just has food acceleration

[steep saddle]

its faster than juvi campto hop

[pallid forge]

And killed by a Hatz after a failed 1vs1 with a Mira. Man I seriously wish they would ban this stupid dino from this mode.

[steep saddle]

for its size and capability of bone break it should Not be that fast

ikr opportunist hatz are the worst

[vague patio]

1. it doesn't have bb, just fracture

2. if running fracturing bite, it is 10% slower than a normal dasp so it can't even catch an allo

I was gonna hunt this rex, but then 4 struthis, then an adult rex... struth and hatz gotta be the 2 dinos I don't want in solo mode, 0 risk in anything for them

[pallid forge]

Worst is that you can't escape them because of the flying and their turn radios on the ground is insane.

[graceful sequoia]

typical stuthi players

[steep saddle]

its also just as fast as cera, fracture still slows you (not dramatically), and its stamina usage and recovery is insane

[graceful sequoia]

typical slop tactics

[vague patio]

I mean, it's a good dino. I think instead of nerfs, other dinos should be brought to its standards, but the nerf speed from the fracture bite is actually a huge deal imo

[steep saddle]

it has shatter as well which is really fast and inflicts fracture

not bone break tho

[vague patio]

yeah they still aren't leaving

v annoying

[vague patio]

that is what I am talking about

[verbal jetty]

do people play around gv?

[steep saddle]

shatter doesnt lower your speed

and can Only inflict fracture

not a full bone break

unless they changed it recently

[vague patio]

yeah shattering bite lowers ur speed by 10%

(the dasp's speed)

[steep saddle]

also yes

i'd check the wiki but it still hasnt updated dasp,

hold on ill check my dasp

[pallid forge]

Green Valley? Yeah I fought and died there a couple of minutes ago.

[steep saddle]

i heard a rex, and i was in green valley

but also im a baby campto

[steep saddle]

shattering bite does Not lower dasp speed but bone snap does

shattering bite does not inflict bone break but just fracture, bone snap can inflict bone break

[vague patio]

ah yeah well dasp is in a good spot

allo still solos and amarg stomps it

[red pewter]

saw some nasty groups in green valley earlier...

[steep saddle]

while cera's only fracture attack is charge bite which is harder to land than shatter and theyre both the same speed dino but dasp has Insane stamina regen

i know cera's up for tlc tho

[vague patio]

look at this super fun interaction :)

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-going-insane-crazy-gif-24253046

[drifting pecan]

Love struthis

[verbal jetty]

why were u not clawing

[drifting pecan]

No point

Extra effort

[vague patio]

^

[drifting pecan]

Im suprised you got away honestly

[vague patio]

I had been fighting them for a while

tried to make a break

if tail didn't have KB I probs would have died

[steep saddle]

at least they dont do a ton of damage

[verbal jetty]

they wouldnt be so comfortable body blocking if you claw them up lol

[vague patio]

nah it's a struth

[verbal jetty]

stomp would be nice too

[vague patio]

they take half damage, run away, reset, heal up

it's just struthi things

[verbal jetty]

o2 bite makes me sick

[vague patio]

I prefer normal bite over it

[buoyant cloak]

growing a sarco with clamp is tempting

[vague patio]

clamp is funny bc 90% of the time, whatever u were going to clamp kill dies to ambush normal bite + another bite and is a lot better in water combat

[buoyant cloak]

im running clamp anyways

[steep saddle]

clamp is just funnier

[buoyant cloak]

i hate charged bite 🗣️

it should be removed from sarco

[verbal jetty]

give it back to spino

[vague patio]

clamp is cheap, just equip itr when u hit adult

[buoyant cloak]

no i will never use charge bite ever, im running clamp 🗣️

[pallid forge]

Sarco could be fun, problem is other Sarcos are always out for blood

[vague patio]

honestly, it's weirder if a sarco isn't out for blood

[verbal jetty]

had to fight a pack of 3 the other day

[vague patio]

the only reason a sarco isn't immediately aggro is bc it's in a group and sucks and is waiting for friends

[pallid forge]

I mean, I tolerated other Sarcos on officials... if there was enough space.

[buoyant cloak]

sarco needs a tlc to make it more interesting, also charge bite removal bc thas why its a meta-pick

[steep saddle]

charge bite wouldn't be so good if it didn't have a lunge forward

[vague patio]

charge bite is good bc sarco is mobile and can trade, the lunge is whatever in the grand scheme of things

[azure sand]

Y’all I was fighting an allo on my sucho and we were both getting low I was standing on n the shore to some water and the allo was facing me. Then a hatz out of nowhere dive bombed in between us to join the fight but he dove to hard and killed himself and we both stood there staring at the dead body like “bruh”

[buoyant cloak]

charge bite is too good, theres no reason to run anything else its the reason why sarco needs to be made of glass, if charge bite is removed it leaves room for better playstyles come TLC

[steep saddle]

does Xbox allow you to clip it

[azure sand]

It was so funny

[azure sand]

Clip what?

[steep saddle]

like how Playstation and switch have a screenshot button that you can hold down and record previous gameplay

[vague patio]

sarco with normal bite is perfectly serviceable, but yes it is significantly overshadowed by charge bite

[azure sand]

U can do that on Xbox too

Yea exactly the same thing

Button in the middle of the controller

[steep saddle]

demanding footage of the kamikaze hatz

[azure sand]

Ohhhh damn yea I waited wayy to long sorry

[steep saddle]

aw damn

[azure sand]

I might have gotten it in a re play I’ll have to check

[vague patio]

shoutouts to the ps5 being able to save an hours worth of previous footage

[steep saddle]

I'm not part of the console conversation i just got it for bloodborne

[azure sand]

Bro what! I can go and 5 minutes max but have it set to a minute because it takes a lot of storage

[kindred mortar]

yea just yesterday I grabbed a 30 min clip bc some cool stuff happened on my conc

[vague patio]

mmm yeah my ps5 is a bloodborne / demon souls remake / elden ring / streaming machine lol

[vague patio]

ps5 is better imo, we just got no games lmao

[steep saddle]

I had to use 15m for that pycno fight lol

[vague patio]

I mean I play path on PC, I just use windows to capture 30 sec intervals, way easier

[steep saddle]

I usually play my games on PC bc the mod capabilities but demons souls and bloodborne being ps exclusive got me

[azure sand]

I prefer Xbox because it seems like multiplayer games always run smoother for some reason. I also like game pass where u get a bunch of games for $14 a month

I have thought of getting a ps for single player games but it seems like everything I want comes to Xbox eventually

[kindred mortar]

[azure sand]

Speaking of which I wonder if this game has statics on how many people on each consoles actually play

I imagine it’s probably phone slowest, then switch, then either Xbox or ps then pc

[azure sand]

Did u ever get a skin or any reward for buying people skin packs?

[kindred mortar]

no. i dont expect to either

[azure sand]

I still think they should give u something

[kindred mortar]

If you have any suggestions for the game, such as a reward for gifting, id recommend making a feedback post

https://feedback.pathoftitans.com/

[verbal jetty]

fog in savanna looks cool

[azure sand]

Oh yea will do

[graceful sequoia]

camptos water drain is horrible lol

thirstiest mf on this planet

[steep saddle]

it's partially bc it starts with forager

[graceful sequoia]

so does herbivore improve water drain? the description mentions only food

[steep saddle]

I think it's both food and water

[graceful sequoia]

used to play campto before its tlc, so been forever since i touched it

[vague patio]

glad u think so! get used to it...

[polar dagger]

Nice Try whoever that Meg was that tried to kill the Steg who was forced DCd lol I got back in just in time it seems.

I hope I left you a good scar 😂

[graceful sequoia]

the server im one hasnt had fog for hrs now, which is honestly nice

[polar dagger]

I like to think it had something to do with my Feedback lol

I made feedback about the fog and rain, and almost immediately after both cleared for like 2 hours lol and has been better/less often since. Been able to enjoy the day time finally (part of my report)

Obviously I don't know, but I like to think the team read it and something changed a bit

[graceful sequoia]

maybe !
i do hope they saw it, been enjoying non fog/non rain thru my entire campto play

[polar dagger]

I just saw a campto earlier, did you run into a Steg?

My first one actually

[vague patio]

gotta teach these young pycs some respect!!11!!

[pallid forge]

Not sure what carnivore I should play next. I refuse to play Hatz or Pycno because there are already enough of them. Concs probably too...

Maybe I make a Sarco afterall.

[polar dagger]

I don't see many Allos. I would say I don't see Megs, but just ran into 2 earlier lol

[pallid forge]

Hmm Allo could be interesting, have no expierence with them.

[graceful sequoia]

aqua meg is def fun

[pallid forge]

[vague patio]

lmao

going for an allo?

[pallid forge]

Maybe, never played one before and could be fun

Or I die quickly

[vague patio]

very shrimple dino

good trot tho, and should beat dasp and pyc

provided they don't run away

[red pewter]

you have summoned the hatz

[polar dagger]

I haven't had any issues with Hatz this far honestly. I always see posts about them lol

[red pewter]

10 hatz are headed to your location now

[graceful sequoia]

lmao

[polar dagger]

Good thing I'm logged out for the night xD

[graceful sequoia]

hatz are kind of a plague

[polar dagger]

They always look at my Steg and then fly away lol

[graceful sequoia]

the fog came..

[vague patio]

lmao

[polar dagger]

Oh no lol I wish you luck!

Is it all one server or are there multiple servers? I know, an odd question that probably seems obvious

[graceful sequoia]

i believe tehres multple?

im not exactly sure how many tho

it doesnt seem much, bc its often i end up with the same folks in a server

[polar dagger]

Same, which is why I was curious. Thank you!

[graceful sequoia]

the urge to btie a baby struthi to death...

cant do it..

[polar dagger]

Lol

[steep saddle]

just watching this sarc go "uh?? what" after my campto yelled

and on that note: sarco in ripple beach pond

I've avenged the baby campto I killed as a hatz

killed a baby hatz as a campto

[graceful sequoia]

epic

[steep saddle]

baby potato,

[graceful sequoia]

made the sarco go to land

as kai

lol

hes showing off ai kills now 😭

ocean stays mine

[bright sundial]

i feel like they reduced the servers down to like, two. i get into the same server as my girlfriend instantly now and theres tons of big groups everywhere

bro did they do something to concs bleed again

why are two claw swipes taking my hatz down 50%

[bright sundial]

four das lol

[hasty willow]

Conca does a lot of bleed

Like a lot

But it's also about the only thing it has tbh

[hasty willow]

I've noticed that too, most of them are like "Nah, I'm good." Or try to be friendly with me and keep far away from me.

[bright sundial]

i, lone hatz, just sat in between three large groups for the past 10 minutes. 3 das + 2 raptors, achi + cera + conc + raptor, then a cheirus + 3 struthi

is permadeath solo dead?

[hasty willow]

Nah. You still run into packs sometimes but it's not as bad as official.

Even if you die and have to restart, it doesn't take that long to regrow.

[bright sundial]

rephrase

is permadeath solo dead?

[hasty willow]

My statement still stands.

I see tons of solo players.

Far more on here than on official.

You're gonna still see groups, that's never gonna stop. It's always gonna be easier to survive in a group.

But many players still prefer to be solo. I've seen a lot.

Some will even just watch me 1v1 stuff without interuppting, or attack players who do interuppt.

So yeah, there are still plenty of solo players.

[cobalt bramble]

solo in this context really just means no mechanical social options like adding eachother to groups, i dont think theres any way to prevent people from doing this entirely because they operate on discord

there might also be less servers (costs money to keep them up)

[bright sundial]

so it shouldn't be called solo anymore

[pallid forge]

It should be called "Survival" or something like that

[cursive lion]

If I'm on stego I'm mostly solo unless something is following me around or I happen to randomly run into friendly stegos but I don't normally actively attack people as a stego either especially if I'm teamed unless it's a rex or eo adult.

For some reason I've had quite a few baby dein/laten follow my stego around lol

[plush flax]

Like baby birds imprinting on the first thing they see

[karmic wolf]

They want trophies

[cursive lion]

For real haha. I just got jumped by 2 pycno and an achillo 😅 I guess the groups are kind of bad

[hushed berry]

Time to start playing this again because it's the weekend

Already killed an achillo and almost died because my controller died 4x

[steep saddle]

yeah it's literally almost always groups that kill my adult dinos, specifically when I'm alone, and it kinda sucks

[vague patio]

Discord sweat groups will always exist. The benefit of this is that these players are bad at the game. Unfortunately these people are the only things capable of killing me but I usually take down a few. It’s just really sad on their part.

At least in this mode if they mess up they can’t hop on a second dino and help revenge kill

[steep saddle]

I mean there's the second slot

[vague patio]

But I do enjoy the fact that I can run across most of the map and escape groups on basically any dino, provided I’m aware enough

[vague patio]

Yeah that needs to be fixed already and I know it’s the weekend but honestly there’s no excuse

Oddy what time zone are u in btw

[steep saddle]

est

yes it's 4 am

[vague patio]

Nah same

[graceful sequoia]

Very normal time to be awake

[vague patio]

Fellow bad decision makers 🤝

[steep saddle]

haha nah I just woke up bc my cat's hungry and demands wet food, can't get back to sleep now

[vague patio]

Nice, I’m waiting at Taco Bell after a night out

Will go to sleep in a bit

I wanna go play more sucho tho, I feel like a tank with this HP and claw barrage does really dumb things

[steep saddle]

sucho's super good tbh probably my favorite semi aquatic

might be the next carni I grow after metri

[vague patio]

Yeah idk what sucho lacks, feels super solid

[hushed berry]

Strength

A good allo can just ass ride sucho, dasp Brawls it tmk, and iggy probably just punches

[vague patio]

Allo ain’t ass riding a sucho with sucho walking turn

Claw barrage just spams it to death

[hushed berry]

It does lol

[hushed berry]

Claw barrage is useless

You have to stack it up for it to do more than bite and that's not even happening on a good allo that just negates the stacking

[vague patio]

no way lmao I’ve been playing sucho it’s turning ain’t great but unless the allo starts behind it I don’t see how it’s ass riding the sucho

[hushed berry]

Allo out turns the hell out of sucho

[tawny shoal]

is it opposite day or something

"allo isnt assriding sucho"
"sucho can claw barrage it do death"

[hushed berry]

Look it's Mr sucho himself

[drifting pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-knight-rises-batman-bane-you-merely-adopted-the-dark-i-was-born-in-it-gif-3456094

[tawny shoal]

i dont think anyone even needs to play sucho to know that claw barrage is one of the worst abilities in game rn

but lets do some maths !

[drifting pecan]

Barrage definitely under preforms,.. and i cant do math,.. soo

[tawny shoal]

sucho bite is 1.25 seconds, so every 1.25s you'll deal 50 damage
sucho claw barrage is about 1 second but you need to waste 4 seconds alone just stacking it to deal 5 more damage than a single bite
so 3 bites is just nigh off of 4 seconds, so you're dealing way more damage than any stacks of claw barrage
claw barrage needs to be landed 10 times at max stacks to just equal an extra bite attack, but you could've gotten 3 off instead of just building up stacks of claw barrage lol

barrage is so obviously bad right now its crazy

[vague patio]

Just increase the damage on it then. Sounds like sucho could use a rework anyways, even full water is pretty mid.

[hushed berry]

Thankfully

[tawny shoal]

icl it just doesn't work effectively on sucho

[hushed berry]

Claw barrage is just a really dumb ability

[tawny shoal]

people rage about it when its "balanced" and it limits build potential, imagine we get a full on kit for sucho with a tlc and then we get claw barrage buffed
people are just going to ignore most of it and spam claw barrage lol

claw barrage should focus on adding a debuff at max stacks instead of damage imo

[hushed berry]

I much more prefer having Claw barrage gutted than seeing the Claw barrage spammera have a field day

Barrage type attacks are cooler when they're like Miras, Dryptos, or Aeros imo

But sucho doesn't need that

[tawny shoal]

barrage works on the raptors

but thats kind of the extent of it

FLIP hatz barrage

[mint nacelle]

Barrage attacks should be like miras

3 attacks at once

Or like iggys thumbs

[manic spindle]

To the baby pycno at salt flats if your reading this I had fun hanging until server restart -bloodsucker skin pycno

[gaunt crow]

Hatz using the peck in the air exploit is real annoying in these servers

[formal palm]

To the baby raptor in rainbow, im sorry 😞 I tried killing the tortoise before it got you

[formal palm]

Well, gg meg in Hunters. You killed my conc. Who ever you are Nuallan.

[steep saddle]

ok i think im beginning to like metri, its not bad

animations are surprisingly quick

[formal palm]

I just killed one

I hope it wasn't you lol

[steep saddle]

no lol im all the way in rockfall

[formal palm]

Okay lol, but i do like metri, they just squishy. The one i just fought didnt use a heal call surprisingly. So I just back kicked him to death.

[steep saddle]

oh this thing gets lone hunter???

[cursive lion]

Yes it does.

[steep saddle]

wild

[cursive lion]

I've had bad luck with metris on these servers lol I died 3 times as sub and gave up.

[steep saddle]

i havent had any issues so far and i spawned in like. triad falls and went northwards

[cursive lion]

It's like as soon as I'm about to hit adult I run into a group and die

GL with your metri adventure! I will try a different dino 😆

[hasty willow]

I have an adult Metri too, though I haven't run into any fights yet

Not sure how it handles in a fight

[steep saddle]

ive managed to spot a few dinos but none of them have been interested in literally Just killing me (only got to sub in rainbow)

saw a few raptors, an adult and baby conc in sav, and a sucho also in sav

the adult conc seemed more interested in the kentro i caught a glimpse of so ill count my blessings

[hasty willow]

Yeah, I would watch for dinos that can bleed. Your heal call is useless if you have bleed on you.

[steep saddle]

id imagine that being in combat makes heal call useless tbh

[hasty willow]

No, you can heal in combat

Unless you have bleed on you

[steep saddle]

did not know that

[hasty willow]

Honestly, the heal call would be useless if you couldn't use it in combat

[steep saddle]

also it says that heal call can only be used in a group so i have the other primal heal or whatever on bc i assumed it just wouldnt work?

[turbid fulcrum]

Mean sucho 💀😭

[hasty willow]

Yeah, so Metri hasn't been updated like Lamb has yet. It's normal heal call can't be used outside of a group.

Primal Mending is the one you wanna use.

[steep saddle]

okay good to know

[hasty willow]

I use Primal Mending and Intimidating Screech.

[steep saddle]

thats what i have on rn lol

[hasty willow]

Those are the best for this mode honestly lmao

[turbid fulcrum]

Nice to know growing a spino isn’t any easier in perma 😂

[steep saddle]

kind of sort of, ocean pois are the way to go

[turbid fulcrum]

That be to easy though

[steep saddle]

people kind of kos baby apexes here

[elder sand]

Can’t wait til tylos just snap things up in the ocean. Shark ai would be awesome too

[nocturne bluff]

ye I hope ocean update is one of the things we see next year

[elder sand]

Probably will get foliage update and ocean next year hopefully

[graceful sequoia]

ocean is super underrated

people should try it

[steep saddle]

gg gh dasp

[nocturne bluff]

i think my sarco is in the middle of the ocean
i don't love how fish spawns / ai works

[empty mural]

Are we getting one more big update this year? Or are all updates coming in start of new year?

[steep saddle]

tbh im expecting a tlc this month

[nocturne bluff]

everything so far points to next year

[empty mural]

Exciting, hopefully. I personally pray it’s Thal. Love that bird but it can’t do much of anything but get the jump on 2 slots and smaller.

[split copper]

I’m hoping we see Pachy and Cerato TLC this month, but it’s likely that it’ll be after the holidays. I will also gladly accept a Thal TLC

[empty mural]

The air needs something to deal with the obnoxious amount of hatz that roam the sky

What would you personally like to see changed for pachy @split copper ?

[split copper]

I’d like to see them lean more heavily into it being a mountain goat knockback dealer 🙂 I don’t necessarily need it to have a lot of high damage abilities, but I’d rather have fun abilities like a headbutt where Pachy rears back and bashes forward to deliver instant knockback. Or like an ability where Pachy can drop on something from above and cause either Dazed or Fracture to another creature if Pachy drops from high enough

[buoyant cedar]

Duck we sorry we killed you, we are genuinely riddled with guilt. Not asking for forgiveness but we do feel extremely guilty.

Sorry, sincerely

@ crater/cliffs

[solid whale]

I wish I was in your server cause I’ve been looking for hatz to dog fight with

[steep saddle]

campto has been alive for about 4 hours no matter where he go

also the second dino that ive managed to grind an expensive(ish) skin for

[vague patio]

I think you’re literally unkillable unless you play stupid games

Which is what I’d be doing because I easily grow bored

[steep saddle]

yeah literally

ive been hanging around the western portion of the map

[vague patio]

Like GV area? Or more YG

[steep saddle]

sav mostly but been going back and forth between that and yg

[vague patio]

I mean the entire reason my Meg died was bc I played a stupid game of “I bet I can 1v2 a pyc and achi”

Little did I know there was 3 pycs and 2 achis but yeah it’s basically all my fault but if you just play it safe this game can be so boring

[steep saddle]

most dinos ive met usually dont bother with me which is understandable

[vague patio]

I find salt flats gets a lot of action

HT and SG are either sorta busy or a ghost town

And GP has people usually

Wilderness peak has a surprising amount of players too

[steep saddle]

time to play the game of "is that a rex or a dasp"

[red pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

me waiting for someone to try to eat me

[steep saddle]

its either im unkillable or a sarc's in the water tbh

[red pewter]

I just want someone to agress on me so i dont feel bad for killing them

[steep saddle]

i can nip you a little bit lol

[red pewter]

i've seen so many matchups i could take easily but they were friendly so id feel bad to chase them as hatz

meanwhile as ano nothing ever attacks me

or if they do they give up quickly

except those suchos that exploited a push glitch, never going out of hunker in the middle of a fight again fr

[nocturne bluff]

I'm bad at sarco but I like how people crouch desperately in fear when they see me
I imagine if I go somewhere more populated I will just be ripped apart by other sarcos

[red pewter]

sarco is awful to play and awful to play against in this mode

take for ever to grow and get instakilled by another sarco

and you can never be safe near rivers because of them

[steep saddle]

ive seen more spinos than sarcos in rivers tbh

[nocturne bluff]

idk i felt like growing it didn't take long but I was just doing ocean POI

[red pewter]

we need matt spawning a billion critters on us again

[nocturne bluff]

lol

[steep saddle]

finally something tried to attack me

[steep saddle]

armor campto with lone survivor can survive a rex stomp apparently

would have gotten away but a struth accidentally body blocked me and died in the process

WITCHCRAFT

[radiant yarrow]

Good to know

[steep saddle]

the true curse of immortality is watching all of your friends and loved ones die

(campto survived several group fights that my group lost)

[steep saddle]

4-5 hatz at GP

i think theyre fighting

ill safelog in my cozy cave

at 6 hours

and he will forever remain at 6 hours bc apparently i wasnt as safe as i thought

[hushed berry]

Goes to fight a Rex as achillo>
1 achillo, 2 hatzes, 1 duck, and an ano appear<

The Rex and ano were solo but that's still a huge pack

[bronze shell]

I just saw a rex fighting ano and an achi? Near ic

Ty achi for the trophy - bb raptor

Making myself a bleed raptor too @boreal lichen :3

[pallid forge]

Already a great start

[oak cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-evil-bosses-shrek-lord-farquaad-some-of-you-may-die-gif-16648565

[steep saddle]

i was actually worried campto would actually be immortal but thank god he wasnt

it was hubris that got me

[boreal lichen]

YESSSSS lets go.

[red pewter]

how would a ramp fare against permadeath critters

[buoyant cloak]

it loses to every single one, ramph cannot deal damage to critters atm due to a bug

[red pewter]

oh

[thin roost]

Yeah

Also they are obnoxious as hell

[split copper]

Poor Rhamph isn’t allowed to hunt anything except fish

[thin roost]

They attack 4 slots that 2 shot them bro

[steep saddle]

baby iggy is so green????

[azure sand]

I think I’m being messed with but I’m not sure. So literally yesterday i posted in bug forum about being able to invite through Xbox on perma death. I put the IDs of the people who helped me. Then today one of them told me they got a bug tracker skin for it. Then when I asked follow up questions they didn’t respond. I don’t have any bug tracker skin. And I don’t want to ask the devs about it and be wrong then decrease my chances to get it. But idk if that person is confused or not or what is happening

(I didn’t expect to hear anything about it for a while which is also confusing because I got quick replies)

What would y’all do?

Right now I’m waiting for the person who told me that to come back online so I can ask them more about it to find out if they actually got it or not

[red pewter]

bug tracker rewards are super random

[boreal lichen]

^

[red pewter]

i uploaded 3 big exploits that got fixed super quick and where imo pretty severe enough to get the devs to react "wtf how do people find this" and got not a single skin

[azure sand]

Yea but I doubt they would give it to my friend I listed and not me the person who posted

[red pewter]

there's no rhyme or reason to how they are awarded idk

[boreal lichen]

I honestly do not know why you wont ask them about it.

[red pewter]

because if you ask then they also dont reward you lol

[boreal lichen]

"hey my friend was given bug tracker, is there chance i could get one too".

[red pewter]

but if you dont ask they forget

[azure sand]

Because I don’t want to ruin my chances to get one if my friend is just lying

[boreal lichen]

Not sure about that, I was in situation where we were given choice. People were asking if they could get it.

also ASKING never hurts.

Asking never hurts. You wont loose a chance just by asking.

[red pewter]

they literally tell you not to bother devs about it so

[boreal lichen]

Why would you think your friend is lying?

also what kind of friend is that

[azure sand]

Because idk them all that well they just helped me prove the glitch in a video

[red pewter]

Please note that posting your bug multiple times, across various platforms, or asking staff for a skin will not increase your chances of obtaining a Bugtracker skin. Additionally, harassing staff to view your reports, or abusing test sessions on our Public Test Branch may result in disqualification from receiving a Bugtracker skin.

so yeah cant ask about it but if you dont they forget

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[boreal lichen]

Asking once in context of the same post is not harassing tho. But i get what you mean.

[boreal lichen]

So they are not your friends at all then.

[kindred mortar]

I’d wait around a bit and ask your friend about it, and see if they actually got one.

I’ve added friends on my reports before and I’ve always gotten one since I created the report

If you earn a bug tracker skin you’ll be notified. If it was a discord report you’ll receive a dm

If you have any concerns feel free make a support ticket to ask about it

https://alderon.games/support

[red pewter]

dm from who would it be

mod mail ticket?

or support bot perhaps

[kindred mortar]

nah mod mail is one way

[red pewter]

or just a dm from a staff?

[kindred mortar]

one of the alderon guys

I believe I’ve received a dm from Alderon Squirrel before

[red pewter]

ah okay

i was worried because i blocked support bot for some time since it was spamming my search results

[azure sand]

What if I say somthing like “hey so one of my friends that I listed in my post claims they got a bug tracker skin. I’m not sure if they actually did or not but I never received anything for the post and was just wondering if maybe I was supposed to receive something? If not it’s no trouble!”

[red pewter]

that sounds reasonable

Maybe include that your friend told you they got a bugtracker skin from this bug report

make it more clear

[azure sand]

Ok I will wait to see if my friend hops on later tonight to clarify and if not I’ll just ask them that

[kindred mortar]

that sounds fine

definitely also reference the report in question and include both your Alderon ID’s

[boreal lichen]

that was the fastest in and out if VC i have seen NDP

[azure sand]

Thanks guys I appreciate the advice

[red pewter]

i can be faster

clicked it by accident lol

[boreal lichen]

made me chuckle for some reason

[red pewter]

at least its an empty vc

a lot more embarassing when there's people on it

[boreal lichen]

I hope you get some clarification to your situation.

[kindred mortar]

I do that all the time

[azure sand]

Yea I have a feeling he might be confusing skins I’m not sure. But like i would also hate if I did all the work finding the glitch then just had him help me show it in a video and he got the reward and I get nothing

[red pewter]

Thats the more likely thing

[pallid forge]

When you accidentally miscalculate your jump and fall to your own death

[boreal lichen]

Killing this hecking critter felt like trying to kill rex hh

[formal palm]

Oh... my conc died 🫠

[wind tulip]

Uff just wrecked a hatz with my Mira.

[steep saddle]

nice

logging off to this nightmare fuel to those who have thalassophobia

also I'm assuming iggy isn't meant to have this sort of reach

[boreal lichen]

Noooooooo. What happened D:

[bronze shell]

Im adult yay ty rhamp for questing with me if u r here it was fun :> - raptor that showed u multiple small caves around the map xD

[boreal lichen]

I had experiance of two camptos stopping to watch as i struggle kill critter XD they just stared.

[bronze shell]

I was attacked by 2 camptos on my adol raptor xD

[formal palm]

I mid sub adult and a mega snuck up on me 😦

[boreal lichen]

oof. :( you can go for it and try again tho!

[boreal lichen]

Oh i was so happy they did not attack me.

[formal palm]

Yeah! I might. I'm still learning controller vs K/M and it's been rough

[bronze shell]

they found me twice attack me 2 different times im glad i survived it xD their bite doesnt hurt as much as i expected oj my adol raptor

[boreal lichen]

my problem has bene that i am so impatient that i end up fighting things when i dont have my full kit. So many times i thought to myself "ah yes i would of won if i had Hiss and tail fan."

(full on me issue)

[steep saddle]

I feel like I'm gonna have that issue with sucho rn bc I have the Swim Kit and the Land Kit and I keep ha ing to remind myself to switch when I pull up to the beach

[bronze shell]

I died as juv once cause i got a juv stego meatballed and got greedy xD it attacked me for killing a juv rex xD

[boreal lichen]

Whyyyy baby fights are best

[bronze shell]

Especially killing a rex i was doing good for the server xD

Watching replay )) so as my second attempt playing laten I met the stego again xD but hes now an achi and he got attacked by 2 concs, playing laten i saw lots of concs xD playing as conc I never meet any weird

[boreal lichen]

I have seen more Thals now for some reason??

have not seen any concs

[bronze shell]

Lots of bb in the server. Playing a Thal seems more fun here than in officials where all r adult

[boreal lichen]

Trizzles conca was the first and last conca i have seen actually now that i think about it...

[bronze shell]

Hows ur laten? Any victims yet? Hows the bleed build?

[bronze shell]

U r lucky xD then concs can be pretty annoying

[boreal lichen]

I was re growing it as i switched to stam regen sub. It seems to work with bleed build way better than 10% damage.

as stamina and returning it fast is what makes or breaks the fight.

[steep saddle]

I think I trampled a conca when I was growing iggy and it was hiding from me

[bronze shell]

Awe i grew 10% damage too xD the stamina one so fatt

Its soooo fat it looks like a different kind of dino xD

[boreal lichen]

i actually am starting to like how it looks lol. but i was like you before.

[bronze shell]

My official laten is stamina recovery xD soooooo fat i hate it xD

But i like fat meg xD

[cursive lion]

Well that was a record. Lived 3 minutes to die to an adult allo hiding in the bushes (I spawned right next to them)

[bronze shell]

But the venom is no goood xD so i play swim speed

I fought an albert yesterday @boreal lichen on conc with another conc

[boreal lichen]

This brings back memories.

[bronze shell]

@boreal lichen u r the best albert fr xD i still kinda terrified fighting one after fighting u. But this albert didnt fight back much stood on a cliff and then at half health slipped and fall and died

[boreal lichen]

Hope they were better than me.

oh

[bronze shell]

Nah u r the best albert i have meet in the game and i fought many in pvp in community in officials xD

Im really curious if u ever be playing an iggy xD cause i havent lose to one yet as duo concs

Baiting u was hard and u fight back unexpectedly everytime xD

U control ur albert real good front and back lots of ppl get mixed up with the buttons

I cant play like that i mixed up my buttons tooo xD cant play lamb albert iggy at all

[boreal lichen]

But yet i still ended up dying. But that still does make me happy to hear ;;

[bronze shell]

As a solo i would have ran after 2 kicks xD

Maybe 1 xD

[boreal lichen]

Interesting thing about this is, when i bought the game, Iggy backer was what i wanted as my first one as iggy is one of my favorite herbis.

yet i never ended up growing one.

I props should

I refuse to believe it is bad after they fixed the barrage bug

[bronze shell]

I've tried iggy got killed by an eo and a styra after giving them a trophy they were 2 achis and they switched to kill me xD ( officials chaos) havent play iggy after that

[steep saddle]

I don't think iggy's bad at all, the amount of build variety you can have with it is nuts to me

[bronze shell]

They r more defensive now cant chase and stab like they use too tho the chasing stab thing didnt hurt much cause concs r faster

And the only iggy i had problem with was 1 in savannah that used charge 1 charge took half of my health bar and it doesnt need to charge from afar @@

[boreal lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-hmm-true-story-you-dont-say-interesting-meme-gif-11564127750155682009

[bronze shell]

He still ended up dying but it was scary xD (officials) dude was losing to me and my friend we were duo concs as a bars and switched to an iggy came back yelled at our faces

The charge idk how much stam it takes but dude charged alot xD feels like he had infinite stam

[boreal lichen]

it is 3 am. Time to go and dream about maybe trying out some iggy shenanigans soon.

https://tenor.com/view/winterz-soon-gif-19096204

[bronze shell]

What where r u from? Its 3 am here too
Gnight gtg sleep too ❤️

[native nacelle]

Whoever was the Rex in GP that got saved from a Steg via Conc, your welcome, was wanting a 1v1 but the Steg ruined it, so I felt bad <3

[winged pilot]

I think you are absolutely right with the fact that people never will stop to do so. But i tied the mode because i love the idea of a thrilling solo experience where you are still able to maybe flee or fight an predator. So i logged in the solo-permadeath mode and in the first hour i saw 4 mixed-packs hunting for prey and the las of them killed my eo and i lost everything without a chance to defende my selfe and i thought if i want to be killed by a mix-pack i can also play official again at least i don´t lose everything there. But the fact that on the solo-permadeath mode are more solo players is an indicator that there is a need for an "solo" expierence in the audience. And if they realy want to do such an experience (and i infact would love it) they may consider a mechanic like an "dino stress level" or something like this when you stay to long to close to other dinos or something. But that is just my opinion. By the way sorry for my bad english. People stay well and be friendly 🙂

[polar dagger]

Where can I report players that are clearly working together?

[kindred mortar]

that’s not reportable since there’s no official gameplay rules

[polar dagger]

So why call it Solo if there can be no recourse against players who are clearly grouping to grief others?

[elder sand]

What if i see a carn attacking a herb and I wanna help because I’m hungry is that grouping? There’s too much of a grey area

[kindred mortar]

This mode is meant to help promote solo gameplay by changing gameplay mechanics to discourage grouping, which is why its called ‘solo’

[polar dagger]

You got Hatz scouts and Pynco muscle. That's not solo, that's just officials without communication.

[kindred mortar]

if you wish to play on a server with rules I’d suggest finding a community server

[elder sand]

There’s nothing that can be done about it on any “official” server unfortunately

[polar dagger]

So, basically, solo is a load of crap because you still have obvious groups, with no way to report them.

Got it.

Lol

[polar dagger]

It's not about rules, it about making your game mode actually work to those it is supposed to be catered to.

[elder sand]

If that’s how you see it then yes you should go to community servers

Solo mode encourages solo play but it’s still an official server

[polar dagger]

I play both. I can voice concern, especially when it's literally asked for

"Please give us feedback"

This is my feedback. Please make it more friendly to actual solo players and help battle obvious discord groups.

[elder sand]

And how would you do that tho ?

[polar dagger]

Don't ask for feedback and then say "we can't do anything, go play on a community server"

If you don't want feedback, don't ask for it

Literally like I said, let us report obvious groups with video proof.

Do stress debuffs to make people more weary of grouping.

I am sure there are ways

[elder sand]

@polar dagger

Too many problems like this. Also reporting makes it the same as a community server really

[polar dagger]

I'm talking about when, for example, a Hatz literally goes and calls for people and blocks you from the HC... after it's been camping a HC. And then 2 Pyncos or Allos arrive to then chase you. That's an obvious group. OBVIOUS, groupings.

Not you ran across this scene and decide to jump in.

[polar dagger]

Like I said, the Dev team shouldn't ask for feedback if they don't actually want it.

That's really poor form

[elder sand]

No one said the dev team doesn’t want feedback

[polar dagger]

Sure acted like it

"If you want rules, go to a community server" isn't welcoming of valid feedback

Discord groups are a big concern throughout the community, to ignore it as if it is nothing is just crappy as a developer, especially when trying to cater to a specific demographic

Just my opinion. But whatever.

[kindred mortar]

im sorry, I didn’t mean to sound so harsh

the exact thing you’re looking for is currently available, hence my suggestion

your feedback on this mode is much appreciated

[polar dagger]

Go to a community server isn't an actual solution to the problem though, or I don't feel it is.

The dev team clearly doesn't see this as an issue, I just don't think solo permanent death is gonna last long if you have the same issue for solo players as you do on officials. Especially for those who don't want to play on Community servers.

I play both community and perma death solo. And to be clear, if a group of 3 allos or something found me, and killed me - that's fair. It is the obvious HC campers who are clearly communicating in high coordination to attack individuals, not random groups you stumble upon.

I think those two groups are obvious and clearly distinct, especially if you were to ask a community member. I have video of what I'd say is obvious coordinated communication, which I would say takes away from the immersion of a solo permanent death mode.

I'm not against groups, I'm against obvious groups communicating beyond just the game in such a way that they are coordinating tactical strategies that players who are stuck to emotes would not be able to.

I understand that is hard to combat, and I don't know how fully to combat it, I just know it is having an impact on the community that plays.

Sorry, I know that was long.

[winged pilot]

I think you are absolutely right with the fact that people never will stop to do so. But i tied the mode because i love the idea of a thrilling solo experience where you are still able to maybe flee or fight an predator. So i logged in the solo-permadeath mode and in the first hour i saw 4 mixed-packs hunting for prey and the las of them killed my eo and i lost everything without a chance to defende my selfe and i thought if i want to be killed by a mix-pack i can also play official again at least i don´t lose everything there. But the fact that on the solo-permadeath mode are more solo players is an indicator that there is a need for an "solo" expierence in the audience. And if they realy want to do such an experience (and i infact would love it) they may consider a mechanic like an "dino stress level" or something like this when you stay to long to close to other dinos or something. But that is just my opinion. By the way sorry for my bad english. People stay well and be friendly 🙂 pls consider this also as my feedback on the game mode and thnk you for developing this great game

[kindred mortar]

this comment here from matt and the conversation around it does a pretty good job at explaining the lack of rules

#path-of-titans message

[polar dagger]

So, that makes it feel that any meaningful feedback is pretty moot.

Feedback feels limited to "it's too foggy, and rains too much" (which it does).

Just frustrating that nothing can be done, or won't be done

Anyway, thanks for your time

[polar dagger]

I think one mechanic that could be implemented, somehow, is perhaps a debuff when around a species that isn't your own. From a realistic stand point, I'd make this more exclusive for Carnivores, but from a balanced gameplay stand point, it'd have to be for everyone.

Maybe -10% or -20% damage or armor if near another dino for X seconds or some other duration. It wouldn't be perfect, but it would at least keep people a bit separated. Herbie to Herbie and Carni to Carni. Not Carni vs Herbi.

Most of the groups in question are 4 Carnivores, a core reason I'd implement it on Carnivores primarily.

But again, that'd take testing, etc, and I know it's not perfect.

[quartz kestrel]

I read someone say; "any "debuff" type of mechanic is a tool that groups can use against solo players" or something like that and yea.. Imagine little Rhamph/Dein sqauds of just standing/flying near you until it's go time for their friends to come in lol

[pine minnow]

In my experience games that add a “debuff” feature of any sort when being around other creatures than their own species or group it just makes it difficult for everyone involved and doesn’t help much at all. If anyone played creatures of sonaria before their recode they know exactly what I mean. It was just annoying overall for everyone and got exploited to an oblivion. They eventually removed it bc of the negatives outweighing the positives

And to add on, it would make it very hard for carnivores to hunt when the other person gets a debuff for being near a creature that isn’t their own kind. Like a “oh there’s someone stalking you rn” kind of thing. Gives away your plans

[winged pilot]

Hm perhaps cutting half the damage from other sorces as the first attacker while the fight could be an option. I mean it´s more a problem with the people than with the game it selfe but in the end it is a problem the game suffering from that a huge group of people do such things like mix-grouping against solo players.

[quartz kestrel]

Lil hot springs cancer pack if you aren't gonna do anything til you get more bubbas to ride you I'll just log in the pond lmao

[plush flax]

Everytime I log in I'm scared I'll run into a pack and lose my Cerato before I can get the clown skin that I want

[quartz kestrel]

Yea it's basically just become officials again. With all the trash packs unable to do anything other than Xv1 solos having abandoned officials. since they get curb stomped in anything near an equal fight. Came here looking for their solos

[plush flax]

Makes it worse that if you die you're just dead in this mode so losing to those groups is even more rage inducing lol

[polar dagger]

Yup

I was at 22 hours, almost 23 hours, died to what I'd call an obvious discord mix pack that was camping the HC area

It was frustrating

[crude ibex]

thats why i play alio

[plush flax]

Oh that's painful...

[bright sundial]

still a peculiar move to advert as the solo mode and then pull the rug out from under us who have been itching for a release from the hordes

[light field]

Oh yo this is a thing? Is it only for the North Americans again?

If I even wanted to join tbh. Especially if there's mix/mega packing happening. These new modes wont fix that issue

[bright sundial]

it was genuine for the first few days and of course got ruined once those guys learned about it

[crude ibex]

i dont think theyre discord groups, ive just been following randos around and i think its just people teaming up

[bright sundial]

dude i literally sat in between three separate groups of 5+ watching them fight for almost 15 minutes, last night

mostly same species too, there's no denying it

like i get that organic gameplay is the best but i seriously need a break from this nonsense, the game is otherwise fun when you're not being assaulted by endless waves of the same guys that no-life and take it way too seriously

even in this mode, the specific solo mode, you now have the same groups abusing the second character slot and coming in with a hatz to finish you off if you do manage to escape or kill one of them

like there's no winning unless there is a server that outright bans it, and at this point, i certainly feel there should be an official REAL solo game mode to compensate

[hushed berry]

Theres a group of 7 ppl in my server rn

The "coke" gang

[polar dagger]

Awesome... hope i don't run into em, hope I'm on a different server. I was about to log in lol

[hushed berry]

What's your ign? I can check if you're on my same server

Before you spawn in

[nocturne bluff]

at the very least they also get permadeath'd so it's not as easy for them to come back if you pick them apart but I won't pretend that's easy

[hushed berry]

Oh the coke gang went from 7 ppl to 3 ppl

Not as bad but still bad

[polar dagger]

Yeah, the video of it is really painful. I got force dc'd for standing in place for too long (like, 2 minutes, maybe?) as I was making a food order (still at my keyboard). I log back in as soon as I can to find my steg still logged into the server and under attack from a Meg (why doesn't it fully DC you from the server?). It had gotten me below 1/4 health, could hear my steg crying at the load in screen lol

Anyway, make it to thr HC, log out. 2 hours later, come back, die to a discord mix pack with a Hatz scout. I was like...1 hr and 2 minutes away from the 24 hour mark. It was a painful way to go, not how I wanted after surviving that long.

The group was a Sucho, Hatz, and Allo. I nearly killed at least 2 of them before I went at least. Gave em hell

[nocturne bluff]

I like the idea of the server maybe only showing the player count but even that's enough to co-ordinate

[polar dagger]

I'll DM ya, if that's ok

[hushed berry]

I just died

[polar dagger]

Lol

Ooof

I'm so sorry

[polar dagger]

God that's painful

To what? The pack or?

[hushed berry]

I was at 80% stamina and got chased by a dasp

Sky diver made him not take any fall damage too

[polar dagger]

Damn

[hushed berry]

But a dasp shouldn't chase down an achillo that badly

[polar dagger]

They kept pace even at 80% stam?

[nocturne bluff]

the hell does dasp get sky diver

[hushed berry]

Yeah, achillo and dasp are the same speed

[polar dagger]

Ooof

Long legs i guess

[hushed berry]

Almost ~20 hours and 33 kills

I'll take it

For a first run

[polar dagger]

I'd get rid of player count entirely honestly. Like, I like to know, but I don't need to know.

[polar dagger]

Heck yeah!

[random stump]

NOOO

[hushed berry]

Time for Woooo-two

[polar dagger]

I name my Steg the same thing everytime, we're onto number IV, the last 3 haven't lasted an hour compared to the 23+ of the first lmao

[hushed berry]

That was a good run

[polar dagger]

Yeah

It was a fun run, some real good fights

I still need to upload some of those videos at some point actually

[nocturne bluff]

lol
I've basically only played Thal and I kind of just like. Get bored and start getting involved in fights that will and do 100% kill me
I'm running sarco rn but I've not really done anything with it other than like. Miss charged bites LOL

[random stump]

Mine died in the same position, lmao.

[polar dagger]

I'm just trying to hit adult Steg again to get my Zebra skin and just... chill when I can

[hushed berry]

Twins

Germz what was that invite for

If you're here

[nocturne bluff]

I mean I at least feel confident that this first test is giving them a lot of information on how people play and co-ordinate even when it's made more difficult to do so, I hope a second pass of this mode takes into account a lot of the complaints
While I acknowledge it's impossible to prevent any groups I think server information being hidden would improve the experience rather than stopping server switching alone

I'd at least prefer something like that rather than like banning certain playables first

[hushed berry]

My main complaints are just base balancing issues

||stamina values being exaggerated||

Like Sty should not have the same stamina as Meg or Achillo

It makes groups that go something bigger than 2-slot way too oppressive

[nocturne bluff]

idk, it's difficult to balance something for solo and group play because if something's good solo then it just kind of makes sense to stack those things into a group and numbers will just always be better
I think part of why KOTH / team deathmatch were so fun is because you were guaranteed to have a group

in general I just don't like how group finding works in this game
I like how smth like BoB works where there's a list of publically posted groups that you can request to join as opposed to like. Running down the list of names (this is more of an officials complaint but hey)

but then in a similar way that's how groups find each other here, it doesn't matter if you can't connect directly, maybe it'll be less of a problem when or if there's more servers dedicated to it but at the moment it's just still very easy to find people you know and more difficult for people who aren't doing that, creating the same issue on officials but exacerbated - the person that isn't part of a discord group that already knows each other is disadvantaged and now here can't communicate with anyone they happen to find in the wild

[polar dagger]

And my thing is, I'm not against groups, I'm against obviously coordinated groups that are (more than likely) in discord with each other. Naturally forming hunt groups I think is fine, and hard to combat anyway. It's the KOS groups that make Official unbearable that have traveled to a solo mode.

If I'm attacked by a group of 3 Allos that met up randomly and wanna hunt, go for it. But discord led groups are just killing it for a lot of people.

That my opinion.

[nocturne bluff]

i mean people are gonna play this like a battle royale, and discord grouping is just the most dominant strategy because it's the easiest way to rack up their invisible kill count

[polar dagger]

Yeah

[nocturne bluff]

like I'm fairly certain most people play the game to kill other players, that's the goal, because at the moment there's not really much else to do

[polar dagger]

Just wanna hit adult so I can take a few with me

[nocturne bluff]

but I don't really feel like that culture is going to disappear when new things are added

[hasty willow]

I wouldn't believe it if it didn't just happen to me

But a Hatz just saved my life

[polar dagger]

Snap

[hasty willow]

Hang on, I have a clip

I didn't get the full thing, but I got the part when the Hatz killed the Dasp

[polar dagger]

I mean, that is sort of the point at the end of the day: Kill or Be killed. I think the bottom line for most people is: How am I being killed? And most people want to go down in a "fair" fight, and that doesn't come with a pack of 10 or whatever it may be.

No one is upset about dying (ok, some are), they're upset with the how because it feels/does go against the spirit of the Mode, or how people feel the Mode should be

Or, imo at least

[hasty willow]

For context, I literally just spawned into Savannah and was greeted by an adult Dasp and Rex. I immediately turned to run and keep distance with the Rex when I saw the Hatz. I thought it was with them, but it attacked the Rex when it layed down to regan stam, then finished off the Dasp.

[polar dagger]

That's how I felt at least when I died on my steg, it felt like a dirty death

Felt cheated a bit

[nocturne bluff]

there's also the element of ''I'm aware this is another player / other players who are choosing to do this to me'' which I think leads to things like getting mad at baby killers etc

(I personally feel annoyed at people getting upset at 'baby killing' in every single situation but hey)

[polar dagger]

I am pretty sure you and I fought together the other day in Snake Gully, or it was another steg with the same skin

[hasty willow]

Oh no, I wasn't in Snake Gully

[polar dagger]

Baby killing is natural in the wild, it's fine in game imo.

I approach the game from a more dino simulator survival game, which is why I think of things the way I do really

[polar dagger]

Like, 2 days ago maybe, not today

[hasty willow]

I've never been to Snake Gully on this Steg. It's only a few hours old.

[polar dagger]

Ahhh lol kk, nm then

[nocturne bluff]

I don't really think you have to justify it, babies that aren't hiding or are failing to hide are easy food, ... or they were until their food output was dramatically lowered for some reason which makes it very hard to hunt as small solo playables but you know

[hasty willow]

And I thought today was it's last day

I'm so grateful that Hatz was there, something I never thought I would say.

[nocturne bluff]

it's irritating to me because lowering the food they give doesn't really stop griefers because they're not killing babies for food
it only stops the people who need to hunt them for food and does not effect griefers

[hasty willow]

Hey, you're in my server lmao

[polar dagger]

Lol nice

[polar dagger]

Would agree

[hasty willow]

It is time

[polar dagger]

Meg just killed me

[hasty willow]

Can Rhamp still not damage critters or am I just bad?

[halcyon moat]

They fixed it afaik

Saw vid with rhamph killing baga

[hasty willow]

I'll try again, but I'm not seeing anything in announcements

Maybe they just didn't mention it?

[bright sundial]

i was curious about this, wtf. i had to take out a pair of juvi rex as my adol hatz cause i desparately needed food and there was no ai around, i picked up one chunk from just one guy before both bodies despawned

[hasty willow]

Okay, it works

I'm just bad lmao

[hasty willow]

I'm wondering if that's a bug or if it's intentional to try and discourage juvie killing

[halcyon moat]

That might be way to deal with baby invites for food

[hasty willow]

People invite babies to groups just to kill them for food?

[halcyon moat]

Because it happened to be this way at the same time with nesting tests

[halcyon moat]

Imagine some group placed a nest somewhere and just invite people to kill righ after tutorial just for food

[hasty willow]

Why would you go to the trouble of building a nest, waiting for them to hit juvie and lose the invulnerablility they get, just to kill them?

That's so messed up.

[halcyon moat]

This is how I see this change dropped the same time with nesting tests

[hasty willow]

I figured it was so hunger was more of a problem

[halcyon moat]

You thinking it from the wrong side

Think about it from the clans side

[hasty willow]

That you couldn't just find an easy solution to

[hasty willow]

Even from a clan's side, that's far more effort than most are willing to out in when they can just jump someone with 20+ people

[halcyon moat]

Also I want to remind you about random waystones invites some people use as "food delievery"

So nests are free food waystone. Would be if not this change

They saw it coming

[hasty willow]

Yes, but a Waystone is a simple 1-2 button click.

Nesting is a whole process.

Like, a lot of effort just to kill a baby

[halcyon moat]

Not a big deal with rhamph on your side

Let it do the work instead of you

[hasty willow]

I really think this change was simply to discourage juvie killing as an easy food source and to make getting food 10x harder

Or that it's just a bug

[halcyon moat]

People reported it multiple times during nesting tests

If it was a bug they would fix it. But they didn't

[vague patio]

babies should give more food, they're walking protein bars

[halcyon moat]

The only true thing I don't like - how fast bodies despawns

[hasty willow]

I think it should depend on the size of the baby honestly

Like a rex baby should give more food than a rhamp baby

[halcyon moat]

Keep it low food(because you know, they are tiny) but make it possible like... You know... Eat

Still gonna kill any juvie that not trying to hide or run in fear

They need to learn it hard way

[vague patio]

I kill what I can... which is a lot!

[hasty willow]

I kill nothing...because I'm a Rhamp!

[fair hill]

Rip Strawberry, I should've been more careful while I was drinking from the river.

[hasty willow]

Riiiiip

[fair hill]

At least Strawberry got to annoy two adult Allos before ultimately becoming Sarco meal.

[vague patio]

dying is a choice

[hasty willow]

Now you gotta make another one called blueberry

[fair hill]

Good idea. Although I think imma go for a Sarco next. I think I will name her "Babygirl" for the laughs.

[fair hill]

Yeah, I make an active choice to die, because I can't imagine something more fun than dying.

[vague patio]

you could have found a water pond a sarco wouldn't fit in

[fair hill]

No really?????

[vague patio]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

not saying don't have fun but most dinos can minimize risk a looot and as the fastest dino in campto, well.... yeah

[kindred brook]

Diplocaulus attack full grown Deinonychus 0.o

[polar dagger]

As soon as I hit Adult again.. swear to god

Can't get past 1hr

Clearly weekends are not when to play

I haven't seen one herbie tonight, which is odd

[fair hill]

They get targeted immediately by groups of carnivores

[polar dagger]

As a Herb player lol I know

An Adult Sucho got me in Savanna

[vague prawn]

I'd certainly play herbivore more if there wasn't the constant 'hunt herbivore' target on my ass lmao

[polar dagger]

Just turned Adol lol

Haha, indeed

[fair hill]

Same. Alderon also doesn't do herbis justice. They have a smaller playable roster than carnivores and most people go for carnivores in general because "big angry dino go grrrrr, eat meatttt, go hunttt, grrrr!!!"

[vague prawn]

have carnivore playables outstretched herbivores now? man I swear it was the other way around semi recently

do the aquatics and ramph count?

im not personally unsatified with the herbivore offerings outside of really hoping for another official sauropod ahah

[vague patio]

herbis are generally stronger than carnis imo

herbis just can't aggress nearly as well, and that's by design

[vague prawn]

I tend to be pretty defensive in a fight so they work well for me yeah

[halcyon moat]

Post buffs sty entering chat

[fair hill]

They do

[fair hill]

Another sauropod would be really cool. But another very small herbi like Psittacosaurus would be cool. Or the big Therizinosaurus!

[halcyon moat]

I would love something "new" looking for herbies rather than another kind of we already have

Theri, beip, psittaco

Smth this way

[buoyant cloak]

my ideas for roster additions would be:
ONE new large land carnivore (the only one is rex, spino is semi)
more semi-aquatic herbivores (preferably a smaller one)
and like 10 new marine animals

[buoyant cloak]

erm ackshually psittacosaurus is a ceratopsian and we already have many of those 🤓

[buoyant cloak]

more small herbis too

dryo, psittaco, etc

[halcyon moat]

It's not a 4legged barrel so it's a new looking one

[halcyon moat]

Orycto

[buoyant cloak]

i hope the mystery dino is koreaceratops

[halcyon moat]

I want more herbies on two legs ngl

[buoyant cloak]

its a ceratopsian but smaller and semi aquatic

which we dont have execpt cherius

[buoyant cloak]

[vague patio]

pretty hot take, mind explaining which carni besides a rex is taking on a bars, eo, iggy, stego?

also, rip to this conc, he was patient in the plains but I baited too hard

[buoyant cloak]

this is why i think we need one (1) new large terrestrial carnivore

giga or one of its billions of clones (they are the same animal)

[fair hill]

We were talking about the number of total playables. We have much more carnivores than herbivores

[vague patio]

yeah but the average quality / strength of a playable usually swings hard in the herbis favor

[buoyant cloak]

honestly flier and marine should be their own categories, since they have wildly different playstyles than the land carnivores

like if you wanna play flier and you wanna play aquatic you gotta go through the land carni list and its annoying

sure its not seperated by diet but still

[fair hill]

But then we would have another carnivore on the roster. People already tend to play the scary big apex predator instead of herbis. I think we need more herbis

[native nacelle]

That was me, lmao. Ggs, I thought i was further from the stomp than it looked. Im very impressed I got you to half though! GGs, good fight man :)

[vague patio]

ggs! you made good trades, sucho is usually gonna lose that fight on land tho, so I was gonna back off but my bait worked, otherwise you played that really well!

and yeah... sucho has the most agregious stomp imo, I've been on the other end of it, it has a really big hitbox for some reason

if ya make something new I have ur trophy, I'll give it to you

[halcyon moat]

I'm playing carnis more not because they are "scary" but because they are usually more agile

[buoyant cloak]

we do need more herbis, (smaller ones) but i think we also need another large land carnivore to make the drastic difference between having like, 3-4 3 slot land herbivores and 2 3 slot carnivores, (one of which is spino) less drastic

[native nacelle]

Ill admit I did get a little cocky there, so that was my fault on my part, confidence always kills. I definitely learnt something there so im happy with how that went
Nah your good, keep it, you earnt it :)

[buoyant cloak]

carnivore bias is really interesting from a social sciences standpoint if you think about it

all dino games have carnivore bias, since its humans playing as the dinos they tend to prefer carnivores

[vague patio]

I mean trophies are pretty useless in this mode xD pls come take it if u want LOL

[halcyon moat]

I want something small and agile like raptors but for herbis

Then I sold

[buoyant cloak]

exactly, dryo pleasee

[vague patio]

but yeah on land u can probs just trade kick for bite on conc and run and heal cycle, but I just wanted some action and I was hoping u didn'tt know what u were doing vs land sucho lolz

tbh I am surprised the stomp killed u, I thought u must have been at like 60% hp

[native nacelle]

That was legit what I was trying to do, I just wasnt sure how much blead you had so I got panicked a little haha

[native nacelle]

Nope, I was around 45ish%

[vague patio]

ah ok

yeah I was running a lot so the bleed went higher

looks like u probably lose on land over time given that math if u trade hit for hit and do not heal cycle extensively

[native nacelle]

Yeah, you always do, its not worth it, its always best to bleed as much as you can, heal, repeat

[vague patio]

I don't have many options as sucho so next time u fight one, if u can bait the bite, teh claws are pretty useless bc I won't be able to keep up stacks on u

[halcyon moat]

You know what? This looking really interesting to see in PoT

[vague patio]

I like running in and using PM to stop moving to bait the bite, free kick and run to the face

[native nacelle]

Atcually, kick and claw do the same amount of bleed, its not that different

[native nacelle]

Yeah thats what I wanted to avoid.. xD

[buoyant cloak]

jakapil could be cool, give it like defensive abilites and TI dryo esque dodge or something and maybe shoves and tail attacks, could be cool

[vague patio]

well in 2 hours ya can have another conc running around as an adult with all the good stuff xD

[halcyon moat]

Except kick has much better hitbox

[native nacelle]

I was atcually really wanting to play Full aquatic sucho lately, so now ive got the chance to do so. I do love Conc as well, so im defenitly going back to that at somepoint :)

[native nacelle]

Thats true, but its stil good to have both in case since the alterintive is webbed claws

[vague patio]

eh I had a 12 hour meg killed by overextending vs 3 pycs x-x

stuff happens, permadeath is way better than officials tho imo

[native nacelle]

Agreeed, that was the most fun ive had in awhile

[vague patio]

ah yeah I run kick and claw, if u can tail somebody, then kick into claw is crazy

[halcyon moat]

Or if you low on stam

[vague patio]

yeah most players are not good at pvp and so I was pleasantly surprised

[native nacelle]

Yeah, either way its still good to have as a back up

[vague patio]

conc actually playing its intended hit and run playstyle instead of mashing kick into of my bites, u love to see it xD

idk if I would enjoy full water sucho bc despite its speed, it is not very maneuverable, and still loses to croc and spino

[native nacelle]

Yeah, im glad i gave you that impression, I never claim to be good at pvp, so ill take the compliment there. I always try my best and nothing less :)

[native nacelle]

It can beat a Sarco, you just need to watch out for its crushing bite, Spino on the other hand is a lost cause, so i agree there, haha

[vague patio]

this lad is fun but sort of boring, you don't catch much, nothing besides other 4 slots cause me to worry, and I can't really be caught. I might try and fight a spino on land next or smth who knows lmao

[native nacelle]

Ive done it plenty of times myself :)

[vague patio]

hmm

I think as a meg and sarco main, I have a diff experience

then again most suchos are not full water

[native nacelle]

Oh you defenitly could, haha

[native nacelle]

Yeah that would probably explain it tbh haha, id say give it a shot, its really good in the right hands :)

[vague patio]

cuz what is a sucho doing against a sarc that just... drops low and circles behind, ya know? I might need to run that 1v1 sometime so I can talk more confidently about that

[native nacelle]

You can wait untill its crushing bite finishes, rush in and do as much damage as possible as it takes 7-8 bites to kill, or if your that experienced you could time it right and get a hit off right before it hits ya, but thats very hard to do, lmao

[vague patio]

yeah rewatching our sucho vs conc battle it's just so crazy the stomp reaches that far and does full damage to tails

[native nacelle]

It was a worthy death, so I do not mind it too much, if anything im more impressed with myself if anything, haha

[vague patio]

yeah conc is a good dino when your opponent doesn't just go to a corner and you don't get mixpacked after bleeding something for a minute :)

[native nacelle]

At that point you just sit there and wait for them to make a mistake and you catch em in between, Conc is all about patience :)

[vague patio]

right?

that's why I love conc

but on officials, normally it's too busy to actually fight something that lets conc do its thing

[native nacelle]

Yeah, its just nice to play Conc as intended, its a really fun dino in the right hands, then again everything exept apex are, lmao

[vague patio]

nah ur not even wrong

I find alio super fun to play even tho it's awful lmao

[native nacelle]

Yeah, its meant to be the small game hunter so I expect nothing less from Alio tbh haha

[vague patio]

well it doesn't even do that well

[native nacelle]

To be fair it only has bite, tail attack, and tr, so thats a given xD

Its not much it can do, haha

Thats why it needs a TLC badly

[vague patio]

oh well, reworks for a bunch of dinos soon, hopefully including those as well as sucho

and conc buffs would be nice, it's already wet paper

[native nacelle]

I think Suchos abilties are good as they are, it defenitly could use more, but I dont think sucho will get the same treatment as dasp ability wise

[native nacelle]

Conc, Cerato, Alio and Metri all need em the most id say, apart from Allo and steg ofc haha

[vague patio]

I mean it's a worse spino basically atm, it doesn't feel unique

[native nacelle]

I can definitely see that, the only unique ish ability it has is claw berage

[vague patio]

and barrage, requiring buildup, only does 5 more damage than bite, requiring no build up

[native nacelle]

It can do faster dps, Its just better for face tanking if you had it built up before you start it

Well, im gonna pop off for the time being, got things to do and its like 8pm here. Again, good fight bud, had a absolute blast, you have a fantastic rest of your day/night :)

[vague prawn]

I think plateosaurus would be very cool to have as something that is both an uncommon family represented in the game and something that could stand on hind legs