survival-test

[split copper]

I just generally don’t ever go to Sav just because it’s not a very good area for a Pachy. Not many rocks to jump on and caves are spread pretty far apart

[formal palm]

Oh yeah that makes since. You are better off in YG and WP. I think Sav is great for Berta

There's one cave i can hide in if I need too

[split copper]

WP is an awesome area for Pachy lol and I can see how Sav would work well for Alberta 🙂

[boreal lichen]

Oh Allo is very dangerous opponent for berta ngl.

[formal palm]

I was 1 tap at the end.

[boreal lichen]

hhhh

If you had not run the armor sub species that would have really bene ggs

[formal palm]

Oh 100%

I kept my butt to him and kept in kicking lol

With the occasional run, trunk to head but and tail ride

[steep saddle]

i think there is like three

[formal palm]

Awwwz there a cera family where I am

[formal palm]

Ahhh okay

It's now like crater, a iggy and conc have decided to team up and fight a Rex

[steep saddle]

well I mean it's one thing if it's an adult apex

against. mid tiers

it's not like it's two fully grown struthis and a conc ganging up on a sub lat

[formal palm]

You classify iggy as a mid?

[steep saddle]

yeah is it not?

[formal palm]

Nooooo

Pseudo apex

[quartz kestrel]

Pseudo apex no?

[formal palm]

It killed the rex, knocked him off a ledge

[steep saddle]

i didn't even know pseudo apex was a thing g

[graceful sequoia]

its not often used or at all by devs iirc

but iggy feels like an inbetween of apex and mid ngl

[formal palm]

4 slots is what the community usually puts them in

[formal palm]

It's run down capability is wild and it's dps. Definitely more then mid

[steep saddle]

are they 4 slots?

idk I've never played or fought one lol

[formal palm]

I think so. If it's 3 then that's WILD

[steep saddle]

berta's 3

[quartz kestrel]

I personally don't know slots I don't have enough group time 💀

I know raptors are 1 slot and apexes are 5 slot lol

[graceful sequoia]

ye is im saying an inbetween Apex and Mid. not quite apex but def no mid

[formal palm]

Berta and iggy are nowhere near each other in combat abilities. An iggy can solo a lot of things

[steep saddle]

wild

[formal palm]

Where i barely survived my allo encounter. The iggy would have been fine, half hp if the allo was good.

[steep saddle]

I might have to try out iggy then

[formal palm]

I personally haven't, mainly because after its update it was busted and I try to not jump on the "meta"

[pallid forge]

Man people who need to gang up on dinos in the same weight class are really just losers. Getting more common now in this mode too, guess the good times are over.

[quartz kestrel]

Seems to be so. First thing I see logging on 3-4 people riding eeachother smh

Probably finally cracked having to deal with other groups on officials instead of getting to froth and foam at the mouth over Xv1ing down a solo player

[formal palm]

Yeah, unfortunately there is no way to stop it either.

[quartz kestrel]

Stop playing; tbh. I started doing so right before the solo mode tests came out n probably will go back to once they're gone/if it persists ans gets worse in the mode itself

[radiant yarrow]

Same, stopped playing before solos came out, been having lots of fun on it without the packs hanging up on ya

[steep saddle]

I'll probably use my second dino slot for quicker, slippery dinos for the time being, I don't wanna risk my berta tbh

[pallid forge]

Yeah I think I will go back to community servers if this stays like this. What's the point if solo players have to either stay hidden most of the time or can only play one of the very fast squishy dinos. That's exactly the experience on official servers right now minus the permadeath.

[storm smelt]

Gg’s backer EO, glorious fight. Was scared multiple times lol

[quartz kestrel]

Nice job taking an eo down, what are you?

[storm smelt]

Allo

My sarco finally died 😦

[quartz kestrel]

Oof unfortunate

[storm smelt]

Yeah was running back to water to recover and another sarco spawned in and nabbed me lol

[radiant yarrow]

Duck, Laten and Spino at BQL

[polar dagger]

Whoever that Pynco was yesterday fighting the Solo Steg, then two Stegs, then just the solo again. Nice job! It was a fun 20 minute fight xD

As soon as I saw the rex I took my opportunity to run lol I wasn't sure if the Spino and Rex were with you somehow or not xD

On another note, nice quiet drink some a small Steg-kin herd ended my last session

[radiant yarrow]

I just watched a Hatz kill two bby Rexes at Big Quill boo

[hasty willow]

Y'know...Metri is kinda fun actually.

What is it's combat weight? I wanna know what I should avoid.

[fathom drift]

3100

I'm planning to try a Metri here after my next death too

[hasty willow]

Okay, so it's the same as Styra then

[hasty willow]

It's fun honestly, just don't try to use the heal call when you're bleeding since you'll waste it then be forced to wait for the cooldown

[wheat cargo]

Got killed by achillo so I guess I'm growing achi now

[pallid forge]

RIP patchy baby that charged right into the sucho claws

[graceful sequoia]

so tired of fog and rain

[wheat cargo]

feels like playing silent hill :v

[graceful sequoia]

its rlly each time 80% eother of those. smth has to be bugged

usually i dont mind rain, but its been way too much

[oak cloak]

My Deinon was killed again, trample damage doesn't count for lucky feather

Can't even break 2 hours, what is wrong with me

[graceful sequoia]

RIP

[oak cloak]

The Pycno even did a victory roar after instantly killing me lol

[graceful sequoia]

lol yikes

shift + w crazy win

live in hoodoo and jump into safety

is where my deino lives on officials

[oak cloak]

Thanks for the tip, I'll try not dying next time

[graceful sequoia]

tho hatzegs def can still get you on the hoodoos

i tend to never pick fights when on deinony, tehy kind of butchered its health, its become a purely critter eating playable to me lol

[oak cloak]

Since Deinon doesn't get any help in even 2% of the combat i try to do, I'm only left with running away immediately, without stopping

[graceful sequoia]

thats basically how deinony feels atm, atleast to me.
frail chicken, having to run

[oak cloak]

All I tried to do was grab a single chunk for Escape Artist, but dead on the 1st pass is brutal

Serves me right for trying to use any of Deinon's kit

[wheat cargo]

Sometimes it's just bad luck. Last 3 deaths I had exactly after just hitting sub-adult on each dino that died.

But deinon is too squishy imo

On each 4h on the server it feels like at least 3h are fog + rain, kinda makes me not want to play at this point

[hasty willow]

How fast is Eurhino compared to Kai/Semi-Aquatics

[polar dagger]

Same, it's too common

[verbal jetty]

bruh a damn pycno knocks me off a cliff while sleeping (after playing in my head that a pycno could knock me but no its empty here surely...) lol

[steep saddle]

i have killed a hatz with my laten, but also he just kinda sat and gave up

[graceful sequoia]

literally on a sliver of health

[radiant yarrow]

Holy how r u alive

[oak cloak]

Saved by plot armor, that's so close

[verbal jetty]

well i just killed 3 crocs and was low so ig pot gods protected me for my service

[radiant yarrow]

A rhamp could sneeze on you and kill ya

[verbal jetty]

literally 0.1 hp lol i still fought back tho

everything is so much more tense when its perma

[hasty willow]

So, I don't kill Juvies because they provide no food (unless I need a hunt herbivore quest) but does anyone else like attacking them a little and giving them a cool scar and a story for later?

I normally only do it to Juvies that don't seem to be paying attention to anything around them, teach them to watch their surroundings.

[solid whale]

Especially on my thala that’s made to hunt juvies and adolescents I will attack anything I think I have a chance with especially unaware juvies. But if they do manage to get away from me I actually get pretty happy because I know I made that dinosaurs story 10 times cooler for making them survive a near death experience

I find the scars I give them more meaningful when they earn it by properly surviving

[hasty willow]

It's also a great lesson for them that they need to be more aware of their surroundings, because a lot of new players aren't. Plus, it feels AWESOME to survive a near death experience in this game, especially in this Permadeath mode.

And if they don't survive, they have a good lesson for later. I've had a few come back to try and fight me after they escaped. They don't escape a second time.

[solid whale]

I once was on my adult conc and was testing if I could kill this one adol eo, he got the better of me but his bby allo sidekick wanted revenge ig for messing with his friend

Let’s just say he learned a lesson when it comes to messing with people out of your league

[hasty willow]

Gotta learn somehow

Some people learn the hard way.

[oak cloak]

Im done making Deinons, Ive just been getting stressed out getting 1-shot after 2 hours

Time to make a Campto instead

Which is 3.4 times bulkier and 10% faster while having more running stamina

And its bite is only 20% weaker than Deinons

[steep saddle]

we love campto in this house

[neon pollen]

fr, last night i had fog for 20 minutes, it cleared up, and then 20 seconds later got fog and rain

[oak cloak]

This isnt even taking Lone Survivor or the armor subspecies into account, jumps up to 3.94 times bulkier in that case

[graceful sequoia]

exactly how i experience it aswell
😭

[oak cloak]

Campto getting up to being equal to 4 Deinons in a trench coat is hilarious

[pallid forge]

Join me and make a Struthi. I'm a menace to all the people that gang up on solo players currently and I'm still alive

I bullied a Spino back into the river!

[oak cloak]

I prefer Campto's turn rate, acceleration, and range, Struthi can feel a bit clunky to use to me

But keep up the effort

[steep saddle]

campto's cuter too

[split copper]

A short story

[pallid forge]

I died to a Pycno + lag

@oak cloak Was that your Campto in GP against the Pycnos?

[steep saddle]

campto time

[random stump]

I feel you there. My permadeath deinon got killed just after I got it to adult and unlocked the abilities I wanted. I was so done. Hope you have better luck with campto.

[pallid forge]

And my Campto baby became a snack for a hungry Conc

[azure sand]

Ok some honestly feedback.

I think if there is going to be no grouping then certain group locked abilities like tyrants roar, and tyrant ally should be able to be used but only stack the 1 time. Obviously some abilities like mod boss won’t do anything at all

[pallid forge]

Okay I started a Deinon for the fun of it and some critters are faster than me and could kill me with a couple of bites. Deinon is definitly the hard mode.

[oak cloak]

Noooo i didn't get to play much before dinner, but I'll play more tonight

[neon pollen]

rip that achi

[pallid forge]

Honestly I wouldn't mind if grouping was possible... for the same species. That would also be good for nesting and the offspring mechanic. My main problem was always that I was unable to see if different dinos play together. And it's clear that you can't prevent mixpacks regardless. Would like to meet random same species and join them. Maybe without the group quests through.

[azure sand]

Instead of that what they could do is make it so u can group up with 1 other Dino. But only one other of any species.

Obviously no mix packing. So herbs with herbs and carni with carni

[random basin]

So you pretty much want to turn solo mode into duo mode lmao tf

[azure sand]

Well I’m already running into groups of 4+

[graceful sequoia]

mechanics that discourage groups of those are better
not encouraging groups by giving them their abilities back

thats jsut officials again

[kindred mortar]

please don’t ping developers that aren’t actively in chat with you #rules

[azure sand]

This is still official my guy

[verbal jetty]

cant decide where i want my duck to live

[graceful sequoia]

lmao. you know exactly what i mean,

encouraging group abiliities on solomode is not the right approach stays my thought tho.

[graceful sequoia]

ripple, mudflats or mayhaps red island

[verbal jetty]

definitely not red island i doubt players will ever go there lol

need a good territorial scrap or 2

[graceful sequoia]

fair.
ripple more likely then, saw a sucho living there for quite some time

[azure sand]

Well hear me out. There are many dinos who have entire builds that are better for groups. Like rhamp, metri, achillo, lamb, ect. Some of those dinos have unusable abilities without a group. I think instead of being able to invite a friend to the same server you could just group with 1 random so that some of those dinos at least have a chance to use some of those builds

At the very very least rhamp should be the one Dino that can group with people

[verbal jetty]

players will always group, you just have to adapt the way you play

[graceful sequoia]

ramph thrives very well without a group

having ppl be in groups and giving them the tools to mess with actual solo players just aint it

[verbal jetty]

currently body camping a hatz, annoying the annoyer

[oak cloak]

Its a Hatz, Ill allow it

[verbal jetty]

made him log lol

[radiant yarrow]

Cute lil Sucho gave me a flower ❤️

[graceful sequoia]

lmfao

[cinder marsh]

two other hatz down, yw everyone

[graceful sequoia]

actual king

[vague patio]

rip AFK rex

[twin mauve]

I was gonna ask what skin you had cos I liked the dappled look
Nah it's just all scars

[pallid forge]

nice little match with 2 rexes at GP. Had to pull back and lost my stego partner in the fog,

[pallid forge]

Man Kent health generation is so slow. And I hear Hatz flying around

[vague patio]

rare anodonto find, we love water splashing vfx

with just a devious hint of water body blocking

[azure sand]

Guys don’t give up a fight my Meg was 1 tap when this guy sat down and gave up

[eternal quest]

Use the health regen hide. Its standing health regen is the same as a full sleeping kentro not using the hide.

[hasty willow]

Is kai or eurhino faster?

[gaunt topaz]

Did they change ic having no water??

[hasty willow]

I don't think so?

[gaunt topaz]

I am so confused xD

[vague patio]

yes. go somewhere else lmao

[kindred mortar]

#playlist-announcements message

[gaunt topaz]

Ok i thought i was crazy bc last time i was here there was lol

[hasty willow]

I thought you were asking if they put the water back lol

[gaunt topaz]

Gotcha that explains sm lol

[gaunt topaz]

Oh no lol i thought it was a render distance thing til i realized it wasnt lol

So on regular officials theres still water right? Its just on both solos theres not?

[vague patio]

yup

[gaunt topaz]

Gotcha that explains a lot ik ive seen clips where there was water so i thought i was trippin lol

[indigo drift]

Oh ok I didn’t know, thanks

[hasty willow]

Just warded off an ado spino by shaking my head at it lmao

It was trying to fight my iggy and I just shook my head

[azure sand]

Hey guys i had a thought that could also help make the devs some money. With perma death they could offer players purchasable extra lives. So when your character dies u don’t lose it. But maybe u buy like 5-10 at a time and u can only use them on a character once. So if it dies a second time u have to delete it.
U could make it so that u can purchase an extra life the same way u get skin packs. So it wouldn’t be super over powered and then the devs get more money for the game or themselves

[buoyant cloak]

no thats very p2w

[azure sand]

I mean it would literally be one extra life

And they will need more ways to make money besides skin packs if they want to keep this game going

[buoyant cloak]

doesnt matter, you are still giving players who pay an advantage, there are other ways to recieve additional funding that dont involve p2w

[azure sand]

It wouldn’t be an advantage in any type of way. It’s not an instant grow. More just like a revive if u die. U would still have to respawn somewhere else as normal

[buoyant cloak]

refer a friend gives them extra funding, crank out another set of skins, the skin packs help with server costs, the game has a ton of sales on all platforms

[azure sand]

U don’t buy refer a friend skins

[buoyant cloak]

now theres no incentive to buy it other than skipping a few menus

[buoyant cloak]

you get other people to spend $30 on the game

[azure sand]

It would keep u from having to regrow one time.

[azure sand]

Most people I know just find people who happened to already got the game or plan on getting it. It doesn’t really change sales and isn’t a constant cash flow

[buoyant cloak]

and thats an advantage paid players would get over unpaid players

again there are other ways to draw in funding, another skin pack, paid emotes stuff that doesnt involve game mechanics

[azure sand]

It doesn’t change combat. It doesn’t make u stronger. It really wouldn’t change anything at all

Emotes and skins won’t create a constant cash flow. They would have to keep making new skins and emotes which costs more money. This would be a constant cash flow that they wouldn’t need to update or change

[buoyant cloak]

if it starts you off at adult growth thats a direct advantage, also it would kill permadeath because then people could revenge kill much easier, if it starts you off as a baby whats the point in buying it?

[buoyant cloak]

how would any one of us know this? you are just guessing only alderon really knows if the skins work, since they continue to push out packs my guess is that they do

[azure sand]

U can already revenge kill because u can have 2 characters so u can switch characters and run back.

[buoyant cloak]

yeah why make it easier? and why give people who pay an avenue to do it more consistently?

paid stuff should not be game mechanics, also skins and emotes work in all modes, these lives are only useful in permadeath which is a small community

[azure sand]

I know this because I have a finance/business degree. Animating skins and emotes takes time and money. They either hire outside help. Or have to pay employees to do it.

Then just like single player games the value of the product (the skins) depreciates the longer it’s on the market because eventually everyone has them or are not interested in them because they are everywhere.

So now u either make more which costs more resources or switch it out for an old pack and hope people are interested in them because they old pack.

But somthing like an extra life u would program once and it would cost the resources to make once. And people will always have a reason to buy it because it’s not permanent. Therefore a constant cashflow that doesn’t interrupt game play and doesn’t need updates or extra resources

And like I said u would only be able to use it once per character so it wouldn’t be a Hail Mary

[buoyant cloak]

dunno, having something that gives an advantage to a small amount of players in a small mode thats single use isnt as worthwhile as the skins and emotes systems that are one time, can be used in all modes and often get a lot of traction on the discord. im sure if alderon needed more cash theyd actually do something but theres no concrete evidence to say that they need more for server upkeep anyways.

[azure sand]

But that’s the nice thing about it. Is even if not a lot of people buy it. They would only have to make the mechanic one time then never touch it again and then they have a way to have cashflow without doing anything.

Because I personally wouldn’t buy it. But I definitely know some people would

[lavish smelt]

Allowing people to buy growths would just further help the groups that already run rampant. It sounds like a benefit on paper but is actually negative more often than not.

Also, making the game p2w is not the move to take 🤷‍♂️

[azure sand]

Now that’s if they even plan on keeping a permanent perma death

I didn’t say anything about buying growth

[buoyant cloak]

it just seems very unnecessary also why are we even arguing about it its literally a hypothetical of a hypothetical with no geniune concrete backing for its necessity other than "it would be nice to have more money" which could be a reason for literally anything

[lavish smelt]

The whole point of the mode being permadeath is that they kinda
Have to regrow
Allowing extra lives or growths or whatever is a bad move

[buoyant cloak]

i mean its basically the same thing but skipping a menu,

[azure sand]

I’m not arguing I stated the idea incase the devs see it. That way they can be aware of more ways they can make money

[buoyant cloak]

its not a good idea though

if the devs did do that it would kill permadeath for so many people including myself

[azure sand]

It’s not u would have to grow the Dino the first time. U just wouldn’t lose growth one time on that Dino if it would die. Second time you would still be done for

[azure sand]

It would be one life per character so like I said it really wouldn’t change much

[buoyant cloak]

still gives paid players an advantage, still p2w, still no go 🤷‍♀️

[lavish smelt]

That's still taking away from the purpose of the mode to begin with. People don't need an extra life or the ability to revive or anything of the sorts

[buoyant cloak]

yeah and IF a revive system was implemented (which it shouldnt be) it should be tied to something gameplay wise not money

[azure sand]

But there is no advantage. Because u still have to grow fight ect. It doesn’t make u stronger in anyway. It would be no different then running into a grown adult Dino as a bby.

[buoyant cloak]

yes it does, it lets you circumvent a core part of the mode which is that death is permanent, even if just one time thats still way too powerful

[azure sand]

It’s more or less just a second chance

[lavish smelt]

Your adult dino dies and you get an extra life on it because you paid a little bit of money. That's not exactly fair or good game design especially in a mode where dying even once is supposed to be punishing. If you want a second chance regrow the character like everyone else has to lol

[buoyant cloak]

that only paid players can access.... giving them an advantage over players who dont... which is p2w

[azure sand]

Plus since this is a company with the goal to probably make a profit I think it would make sense

[azure sand]

I’m pretty sure most players wouldn’t even know it’s in the game

[buoyant cloak]

alderon makes tons of sales, they average twice TI's playercount and thats not even counting the skin packs and PoT coins they are already make a profit

[lavish smelt]

I could see it maybe being tied to quests if it was something that they'd implement, though unlikely it'll ever exist. Smthn like "complete x amount of quests for a revival of y character"

[buoyant cloak]

ok if its so small then why even add it? it would hurt publicity and skins and emotes have a much wider reach than that it seems unecessary

[azure sand]

I’m also a believer of things similar to that being in game obtainable just make it hard to obtain

[azure sand]

Because as I stated before it creates constant cashflow without having to add extra resources and money to it. Where as skins cost resources and money to make. So if people don’t buy a pack u lose money. This idea u couldn’t lose money because u wouldn’t have to keep making more. Make the system once and never touch it again. Skins have to be constantly made

[lavish smelt]

I feel regardless any sort of extra life or revival system would be abused so I'm very against it, kinda takes the survival out of surviving when you basically get a way to negate it, even if only once per character.

I'd much rather more important QoL updates than giving discord megapacks a way to monopolize on a mode where groups are already rampant

[vague prawn]

matt's response to people asking for anything other than paid cosmetics: #solo-normal-archive message

[buoyant cloak]

godsend

[azure sand]

I mean that is there choice but i wouldn’t call it smart. Because he is part of a business that is turning down a way to make more money and profit

[vague prawn]

the goal here isnt profit over all else, that philosophy is ruining every product imaginable

[lavish smelt]

More goes into game design than just trying to make a profit. And it seems Matt and the rest of the team genuinely care enough about the game enough to not turn it into a p2w slopfest which is nice

[azure sand]

My guy do u think they made the video game to not make money?

[vague prawn]

matt literally does this for fun

[buoyant cloak]

they already make money....

[azure sand]

And business that sells anything is doing it to make a profit

[azure sand]

I’ll make sure to pay rent with fun

[azure sand]

They can do more for the game with more resources (aka money)

[vague prawn]

got nothing to do with you mate, accept that the devs legit care more about the experience than a couple extra dollars

[azure sand]

I get the feeling you don’t understand sarcasm

[lavish smelt]

They already have more than enough outlets to make profit in the game both through skin packs and dinosaur packs as well as the PoT coins that people buy. If they really needed the extra buck I feel we would've seen more microtransactions by now. But we haven't, so

[azure sand]

So more money = more resources for the game and future games

[azure sand]

Which is why I plopped the idea down. If they need more money it wouldn’t be hard to implement

[lavish smelt]

Your idea also isn't really healthy for the mode this pertains to

[azure sand]

I didn’t plop the idea down so i could buy lives because i wouldn’t. I plopped it down so it’s there if they need ideas

[azure sand]

I think u would be surprised how little it would change anything

[lavish smelt]

Even if you don't buy the lives offered in this hypothetical mechanic, there are going to be discord megamixpacks that will abuse the system quite heavily

[azure sand]

lol AutoCorrect is wild

[neon pollen]

why would they need to make money if you have to buy the game

[lavish smelt]

I feel you're underestimating how damaging it could be especially when people have already expressed concerns of struggling solo. The very people causing their struggle would profit off of a life/revival system significantly more

[azure sand]

Because the idea is multiplayer games are meant to run for at least a few years. At some point the sales of the game will slow down and game sales won’t be enough to maintain servers in the long run

[buoyant cloak]

ok alex, lets use The Isle as an example

while we dont know the exact amount TI makes every year the isle has never once done any p2w stuff, and have supported themselves on just game sales alone for almost 10 years.

The isle is exclusively on steam which takes a pretty big 30% cut from profits and yet TI can still support the amount of devs and assets they have/commission

PoT (according to matt) averages around twice TI's average playercount and PoT is not on steam so does not have to deal with a 30% profit cut on PC, according to matt the total accounts are in the millions, and the highest spike ive seen him talk about was 20k at once, hundreds of times larger than TI (PoT's biggest competitor) because it makes a ton of money they can afford the expenses of making skins and cosmetics and turn a profit to go towards reoccuring server upkeep costs. TLDR PoT makes money

[azure sand]

I don’t think the isle is a good comparison since that game has been in beta for what almost 10 years or something crazy and is half abandoned

[buoyant cloak]

yes and it still supports the devs making high graphical quality content despite being half abandoned and for 10 years

TI has a pretty big team, if that amount of cash can support TI , this massive amount can support PoT

[azure sand]

But u are also talking about how the games are doing right now. U can’t predict the future or bad investments. Therefore more money=more longevity and added resources to game development

And once again the idea wasn’t there as a “add this right now” but as a “u could always use this”

[buoyant cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1199916470273069056/1276985762507788440/maneater_faling_gif.gif

[lavish smelt]

And the idea isn't a good one 🤷‍♂️

[azure sand]

Says u. If I was a business I wouldn’t say no to more money

[buoyant cloak]

its not all about money publicity is a big thing for small games like this

[azure sand]

Someone tells u that you could make $100 more on your paycheck would you say no?

[azure sand]

So have u then never once bought and played a game that has in game transactions

[lavish smelt]

For someone who said they wouldn't buy the extra lives you sure are pitching for it quite a lot. Groups do not need another thing to monopolize on when they're already dominant in a game mode that's supposed to be more supportive of people that are alone

[lavish smelt]

Depending on what's getting me that extra 100? Yeah. Or maybe I'm happy with the amount already made and don't need the extra 100 per check

[buoyant cloak]

I dont play games that have microtransactions that effect gameplay and give paid players an advantage, no, skins are fine

[azure sand]

I’m pitching it because I’m into finance

[floral kraken]

this

[azure sand]

My guy u say that but I almost guarantee that most people including u would say yes

[lavish smelt]

You also don't really seem to recognize just how disastrous adding even just one extra life per character could be.

[lavish smelt]

Except I wouldn't because I have a pretty good understanding of where my thoughts stand. The answer I gave to your question holds true regardless of what you personally think

[floral kraken]

did yall see league of legends release a $230 skin...
its just a bad idea for the game

[lavish smelt]

230 for a cosmetic is insane 😭

[neon pollen]

league is all profit now. game is in shambles

[buoyant cloak]

oh i dont play league, i havent seen arcane yet dont say anything

[floral kraken]

people with no self control will buy this, you are pretty much spawn camping them IRL

[azure sand]

But also games with in game transactions

“Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege has generated $3.5bn”

“Assassin's Creed Valhalla has earned over $1 billion in revenue”

“League of Legends has generated the following revenue over the years:
2020: $1.75 billion
2019: $1.5 billion
2018: $1.4 billion”

[floral kraken]

the pink rainbow horse in WoW made more money then Starcraft 2 (the entire game)

[vague prawn]

'I cant wait to pay a small fortune for some pixels that will disappear forever the moment the servers shut down'

[neon pollen]

siege and league dont have pay to win mechanics so your argument doesnt work

[buoyant cloak]

REAL, i feel bad for the people who bought concord

[azure sand]

Which is why buying them is stupid. But if people are willing to buy then people will be willing to sell

[buoyant cloak]

tbh i feel bad for everyone involved, the devs who made concord probably got laid off for making a bad call like that

[floral kraken]

these same arguments are used for alcohol and gaming and whaling. Just because people will buy it doesnt mean you should sell it

[lavish smelt]

If you want to pitch an idea for another microtransaction then maybe pitch a different idea that's not gonna allow groups to further monopolize on a game where they're already dominant 😭

[azure sand]

If it’s legal to sell and makes me money i would sell it

[lavish smelt]

Besides again the "extra life" just kinda defeats the purpose of what permadeath is attempting to do

[vague prawn]

like being able to pay a little extra to pretend I have friends for those recruit skins lmao

[floral kraken]

yeah no difference for any of the heartless beam counter people who work at these large companies that everyone hates, people want ethics in their life and just because its not illegal yet because they are working around laws that are still pending doesn't mean it should be sold.

some of these games have checks in them to stop you from spending too much money because all it does it ruin peoples lives

[buoyant cloak]

and appealing to such a small audience and doing something that would hurt publicity is counterintuitive

[lavish smelt]

I feel this
I've only been able to get 1 of the newer ones so far

[buoyant cloak]

i actually JUST got them all from friends

thanks alderon campto for doing my support ticket

[floral kraken]

when league of legends added a $200 skins people protested by banning that hero in ranked matches and it got like a 70% ban rate

[azure sand]

I don’t really have an issue with being considered heartless I don’t like people. If they make bad decisions and it benefits me and the people I do care about then so be it

[floral kraken]

yeah there is this thing called the Dark triad

ran into people with it a lot when i worked on the isle

there is just no 'feeling' there that its a bad idea

its a 'other human beings exist to my benefit'; kind of mindset

[buoyant cloak]

im glad seeing a dev of a game im excited for shoot down p2w stuff like this its really good to see, makes me excited

or just, toxic business in general

[azure sand]

It’s not that they “only exist to benefit” it’s that they are going to make these bad choices no matter what. A person can only be helped if they want help. So if they are going to be buying alcohol anyway then it would be nice if I’m the seller

[floral kraken]

yes people need to want help, but by doing this you are enabling them and exploiting them

aka you are buying alcohol for them

[vague prawn]

legitimately a big reason i recommend this game to people, its actually got business morality

[buoyant cloak]

yeah you can tell this was made with passion

[floral kraken]

the games dont just offer microtransactions on a side menu, they hire a team of 100 physiologists to maniuplate people into buying as many as possible

turns out if they just exist in the game, they dont get purchased

[azure sand]

But also this is the reason why I said maybe to put a cap on the limit of extra lives. That way people literally can’t over buy

[floral kraken]

and the live thing litterally ruins the experience for other players

and makes the game feel unfair

[azure sand]

That’s fine just thought i would put it out there

[floral kraken]

but yeah you wouldnt last like 5 seconds at a company with any ethical considerations

and if you are trying to speedrun destroy company reputation any % for most money possible, your suggestion doesnt actually get that much money

you add loot boxes and gambling at that point

we write our games terms of service to block community servers from doing this, since thats the first thing they do on other games

[azure sand]

That’s why I work in farming! Best kind of labor!

And I got my finance degree so maybe I can get my own one day

But i would also argue this doesnt necessarily destroy a company reputation because many of them do paid transactions and are very successful

And look at non gaming companies like Apple.

Now I don’t think anything lasts forever if they push their luck too much they will eventually lose

[floral kraken]

apples not a good example of good reputation

speedrun iphone with modern day slavery any %

but yeah your personality is going to prevent you from seeing any of this is bad

[azure sand]

There reputation has changed in recent years that is true but they still make stupid money.

I still don’t know why I was wasting my time learning my ABCs back then instead of buying apple stock lol

[floral kraken]

they have nets up at the factory to prevent people from jumping off

its not a good reputation, and its offtopic so we can move on

[lavish smelt]

My phone tricked me mid convo and forced me to install a software update

[floral kraken]

if its iOS enjoy apple intelligence lol

[lavish smelt]

Android
It gave me the reminder while I was typing

[floral kraken]

its,,, interesting

[azure sand]

My phone has been doing this thing where I will type a correctly spelled word and it will literally change it to something completely different

[floral kraken]

yeah i had this one

[lavish smelt]

Makes me glad I don't have IoS platforms

[vague prawn]

australia bricked our 3g network so i just bought a dumbphone to escape the madness

[floral kraken]

we have aus devs on our team get affected by the 3g network brick

its the dumbest thing i have ever seen a country do

[azure sand]

Every time I type where or were it changes it to we’re

[floral kraken]

but yeah to get back on topic, no buying marks, no buying lives

[azure sand]

I will say speaking of marks do u think u will increase how much marks u get in perma? Because a lot of dinos will hit adult before having all their abilities

Or like me and a friend were saying it would make trophies super fun to collect and put around a nest to show off how many kills u got one 1 character

So like more marks on trophies could be fun too

[floral kraken]

you dont need to have all your abilities by adult, you can unlock some post adult, then it becomes not a big deal anymore

but yeah Alex you would prob love this video https://youtu.be/xNjI03CGkb4

[azure sand]

Also I appreciate the insight! Og what u want for your game

[floral kraken]

its full of those tricks you talked about

[azure sand]

Thanks I will definitely check it out

[floral kraken]

stuff like this

also talks about how skill based games are bad, you should be able to pay to be better

[azure sand]

Yea I find this stuff fascinating even though I don’t get them myself

Well I don’t think you should only have p2w because that would definitely ruin most games. But some transactions are fine. Because if u do only p2w then yea I agree it will ruin the game and people will leave

[floral kraken]

but the players send in requests asking for it

they want to buy it you wanna sell it

logics going to start falling apart here lol

[azure sand]

That’s why I like Ubisoft they have transactions but ways to get the stuff in game too

[floral kraken]

yeah if you dont make it really grindy to make people suffer they dont buy stuff

[azure sand]

I like to say too much of anything is a bad thing

That’s why I like Ubisoft method. They have daily quest that are pretty easy to do. But not so easy u can do them instantly.

[floral kraken]

you would prob also like KOTOR 2 since it explores this topic

[azure sand]

I have never heard of them

[floral kraken]

its a video game that explores ethics

[azure sand]

Ohh that does sound fun!

I also hope I’m not keeping you from anything but I have never seen a dev talk this much in chat! If you don’t mind do u guys plan on making other games in the future too?

[floral kraken]

sure

[azure sand]

I forgot its name but I remember there was one game that in the end u had to pick between treating a city poorly to hold off some type of evil or treat everyone fairly and possibly fail. I wish I could remember the name but if it’s anything like that. Those game give crazy choices and plot

[buoyant cloak]

i killed a crab, a big turt came up and bit me then just stood there then dug away

i think the game is trolling me

[floral kraken]

was it fable 3?

[azure sand]

That sounds soooo familiar maybe. It’s been sooo long since i played

[floral kraken]

some kind of critter manager that spawned critters after people who were grouping and mixpacking would be lowkey fire lol

[buoyant cloak]

spawn billions of red turtles next to every eotrike

[azure sand]

Send the pack of 12 red head lizards that attacked my bby eo after them

[buoyant cloak]

a mode where you control the critters and have to deal with ai dinos would be funny

[floral kraken]

more then one person attacks you in the same time period send a critter after each atacker

[azure sand]

I have been saying man Campto critter rally

[buoyant cloak]

i wonder will abilities like synergize with critters someday? like will some abilities let you scare off or pacify or let critters fight for you?

[azure sand]

I have never once played Campto but i would just for a critter rally

[azure sand]

One day please just have 100 critters spawn in ic and allow chaos to ensue

I would go there and die just to say I was there

[azure sand]

I just hope the area of affect abilities start to do damage to critters. I’m not sure if that has been changed yet

Oh no I forgot Matt! If u are still here give @kindred mortar a founders skin or something he dropped like $100 buying randoms on discord skin packs! lol get this man a special skin!

[fair hill]

Matt, when will we get a new skin pack? The game still shows the previous skin pack, even though you can't purchase them anymore.

[azure sand]

Hey so I get this message every time I log into the solo modes. Idk if that is intentional and it doesn’t stop me from getting in but I have yet to not get this message

I don’t have any updates available either

It also pops up when a server goes down and I go to hop back on. I’m on east coast servers

[neon pollen]

getting tag teamed is so depressing

[azure sand]

I was able to invite my friends from Xbox onto the server so idk if that is functioning correctly

People are probably finding ways to get friends into the same server

[floral kraken]

its intentional

[gaunt crow]

On solo? Why?

[azure sand]

I think he replied to the picture not the last message I sent if that’s what u were asking about

[solid whale]

It’s intentional because it’s the patch they implemented to the remove water from impact crater, if I’m not mistaken at least

[boreal lichen]

went to visit officials after a long while and there are some hottest takes there i swear.

Anyway good morning.

or day...

night?

Good timezones anyway.

[gleaming crater]

I feel the only thing in calling it solo permadeath is just a downside because people are gonna be in group anyway, and its bringing in the solo players to fight groups in a mode built for solos

[boreal lichen]

The name is defo wrong. It never was meant to be strictly solo but to make it so you cant joing your friends straight up to same server.

[red pewter]

there would be even more groups in a group "friendly" mode...

[gleaming crater]

Like I said a bit ago, I think it would be best to keep all settings the same but allow u to get in groups of 2 or 3 so it's not impossible for solos to win but hard still, and maybe only same species team

I've honestly found more groups in permadeath, not as large but just about every player I fight has a friend

Or 4 friends

I do like the no chats though, I think it should stay that way cuz it's much more fun to me, and if water gone is also nice because I see people in many other areas, mostlikely grouped but still more common

Ic

Or just an overall removal of no grouping, since I like nesting and permadeath nesting would be so much fun for me, but u cant since the mode intends for u to be solo.

[boreal lichen]

Still have not seen more than 2 people group at most.

And they have all been strangers.

[gleaming crater]

In general I'd just wish for it to be a small groups type of mode instead of solo, keep the no was so it's more realistic, can only chat to people in group, nesting would be back. And if possible a way to allow u to only group with other of the same dino

[boreal lichen]

This is just a test and wont stay like this and wont possibly ever come as official game mode.

but if it does i would prefer no grouping system at all. Organically formed groups feel nice.

[stark talon]

Sounds like you should play semi-realism servers

[gleaming crater]

I've fought a hatz allo a conc and duck in DL I've fought a dasp sarco and cera in bql

There's more but that's just what I've been seeing

[gleaming crater]

no

[stark talon]

its exactly what you described xD

[gleaming crater]

Not really, I dont remember saying modded until it's not the same game, rules for 2 hours just to re-read etc. I think at some point the game shouldnt be relying in servers for a realistic version of the game

[stark talon]

semi realism has no or very light profiles

and not all run a ton of mods

[boreal lichen]

All those people were 99% sure just strangers that saw one being attacked and wanted to just fight something without having higher risk of dying. It is human nature you are annoyed at here. Sadly we cannot do anything about that.

BoB has officials which are monitored and they have rules. In Path of titans they do not wanna start doing that and without it there is next to no way of creating any kind of system that cannot be exploited some way or another.

people who wanna mixpack and group big will always find the way to do that.

[gleaming crater]

I've played a crimson semi and a full realism I cant remember, they're not too bad but i mean i want an official no rules to follow, and just be limited like i said in the message, it's a good enough way to make a more realistic mode without rules so u can just hop on and play, without having to memorize a whole list. And it would still work

[stark talon]

just dont expect it from a solo permadeath server

[boreal lichen]

It is no fault of the game mode really.

[stark talon]

there are places that fit your needs

you just refuse to go there

[gleaming crater]

They do not fit any needa

[stark talon]

maybe the "2" servers you tried xD

[boreal lichen]

Without active mods monitoring behavior of people and keeping them at pay there is no way you can have that on any no rule server.

There is no system that can be put in place that these people wont use against others.

[gleaming crater]

Technically is the fault of the game mode, cuz it does hinder groups for no group abilities but it stating solo makes solos wanna play just to end up fighting groups

[stark talon]

plus no rules would mean you wouldnt get your "rules" you want like small groups and no mixpacking... xD

[gleaming crater]

They could find a way eventually to have there be only 3 slots in a group and make every dino a 1 slot

[stark talon]

lol

[boreal lichen]

You are taking the name too literally. Again.

[gleaming crater]

Besides Alex of course

[boreal lichen]

You CAN still group

it is just made harder

[stark talon]

Rent a server and force people to play your way.

They cheap

[gleaming crater]

It doesn't make sense to call it solo to be allowed to group no nesting either would make no sense either

Just take the name solo off then lol, makes things easier since I've been avoiding players if same dinos or similar that wanted to group cuz I've been built around the idea that it's supposed to be 1 player total

Solo should've never been in the name if it has nothing to do with being only solo

[steep saddle]

if i had a nickel for how many people joined solo permadeath and just refused to understand what they're for i would be able to fill my car up with gas this week

[gleaming crater]

Also what he said does not work anyway, I am 100% sure u can join friends servers

[stark talon]

my friends cant use friends list to join when im playing here

so.. yeah it do

[steep saddle]

there's only three servers ofc you're gonna end up in one where some friends are in

[stark talon]

yeah you can reque and roll the dice but thats that

[gleaming crater]

I can, my friend was in it I thought they were on official and I loaded in just fine

[stark talon]

Welp, mine can't

[gleaming crater]

K

[steep saddle]

then report it, clearly it's a bug

[stark talon]

Anyway, you've been given options that fit your need. You simply refuse to do so. Thats on you.

Take it to a diff chat, cuz all youre doing is complaining about a mode you shouldnt be in with your expactations. tbh

[gleaming crater]

Its more like I've been given a thought that I'm supposed to play a certain way when that's not how ur supposed to play

[stark talon]

Youre a brick wall.

There places that fit your needs, go there. Or make your own.

[gleaming crater]

Why would I take it to a different chat about permadeath when this is permadeath chat lol

[stark talon]

you dont want this server tho

its not for you.

[gleaming crater]

And u say I'm a brick wall..

[stark talon]

all youre doing is complaining its not what you want it to be

Im simply repeating my simple points to a brick wall.

simple simple simple

[steep saddle]

what it is now is the intended experience. period. there are bugs, but there is likely never going to be a giant shift in what this mode is until it's closed

[gleaming crater]

Like I said many times, if its intended to be solo permadeath u would imagine it would be about being only solo, I've been informed that is not the case, and u are only saying how I'm a brick wall and telling me it's not intended for me

[steep saddle]

this reminds me of how people were mad because elden ring is "too hard"

[gleaming crater]

Elden ring is crazy ngl, very random game to bring into thia

[stark talon]

its solo because you cant use the group mechanic nor easily join friends on your friends list. its permadeath because of obvious reasons.

[gleaming crater]

And like I said 3 or 4 times I was unaware of what it's real intended goal was, given the name does not fit the goal well

[stark talon]

Yet here you are.

[steep saddle]

it's the same point. that not everything is going to be catered to your expectations, and there are better fits for your expectations, but it's not here

[gleaming crater]

It's like going to a job about cooking but you're supposed to hunt

I was given the idea of it being solo, that it would be solo only but it is not and I'm being called a brick wall because nothing u have said has moved me since I need no different answer to ur question/statement

[stark talon]

xD

[steep saddle]

the "solo" means you can't join your friends and that's all it's supposed to mean

[gleaming crater]

Every question/statement has been answered relatively the same because I need no other answer

[steep saddle]

media literacy is important.

[stark talon]

I'll be nice and leave you to keep talking in circles.

[gleaming crater]

Literally just said that

[gleaming crater]

K

[steep saddle]

parallel play ≠ joining friends

helping other people ≠ joining friends

limited servers ≠ joining friends

[gleaming crater]

But like I said, the name is misleading as has been stated the whole time, it's not that I've been thinking that I'm not allowed to play with friends but that I cant play with people period

[steep saddle]

then why are you joining multi-player lobbies??????!

[gleaming crater]

What am I supposed to do, go play singleplayer to fight players?

[steep saddle]

you don't want to play with people but you wanna play with people

I don't know what you expect here, official servers in general are self governing, play something moderated if you want a true 1v1 experiemce

there's nothing against the rules because there are no rules

there were Never any rule

[gleaming crater]

U dont understand the story, base wise I was stating how it would be cool to be able to nest/ small groups so u have another goal without it ruining solo players (at the time I wasn't aware that Matt said it's intended to stop friends from playing together) then I was told and I've been repeating the same thing of I wasn't aware because the person calling me a brick wall has only been saying the same things about how I dont belong there because my original thoughts were that it was solo play only.

So I've only been justifying the names misleading and I'm called a brick wall because a paper water gun has been trying to knock it down

[steep saddle]

matt said there's no clear and concise way to convey not being able to join friends in the title of the playlist

solo is the closest thing

[gleaming crater]

I've also been aware of that 5 mins ago

Actually mb I read that wrong

[steep saddle]

feel free to make suggestions that doesn't exceed the like. 15 letter character limit or st

[gleaming crater]

But I dont think solo was a gameplan

[steep saddle]

I probably should have put quotes around solo mb

[gleaming crater]

No friend friday

Fire server name

[steep saddle]

implies only open on friday

[gleaming crater]

😦

Friendless permadeath is basic enough ig, or it would state it in the description when u load in

[steep saddle]

tbh tho I do agree solo makes it a bit more confusing of a name when it's like. more survival than anything else

[gleaming crater]

Yeah, I like the permadeath idea I just want nesting cuz babes cute

And it gives me a goal when I'm adult, especially as a herb cuz herb adult is boring when ur not kosing

[steep saddle]

if anything i don't want groups enabled bc that just invites the mindset of regular officials but with permadeath but babies should be allowed to group until they're adol or st

nesting is fun but since you can't join friends and there's only one dino slot it's not really like. possible to implement it smoothly

well. two slots technically

[gleaming crater]

Yeah maybe groups are 10 slots as normal but anything sub adult or higher is 6 and adol juvie and hatchling are 1 or 2 based on size

So subs and higher cannot enter groups with other subs or higher

Also it'd be hard because u cant type in chat for nesting either

[plush flax]

I tried officials after playing nothing but the solo permadeath and it's.... yeesh.. I immediately went back, I love my solo modes, I love not getting jumped by 20 ppl. Please make impact crater forever be waterless

[gleaming crater]

Yeah the waterless is fun, spreads players out and looks pretty cool lol

[steep saddle]

I only wish to return to officials for my goal of making a group of 10 campto

[gleaming crater]

I'll join lol, mines almost adol but I could help

[plush flax]

I love my camptosaurus, I have the valentine's skin it's so pretty

[steep saddle]

once I do that my life will be complete

[gleaming crater]

Campton permadeath sounds funny, might do that

[plush flax]

Id love it the IC changes carried over to officials tho it'd genuinely shake up the game in a good way I feel, people are obsessed with that big ditch

[steep saddle]

I think someone mentioned a different hotspot would eventually be decided like one some community server where SG is The Place

[steep saddle]

genuinely yeah I think I'm gonna do that when my lat inevitably dies

I just really like campto they're very cute to me

[gleaming crater]

I was assuming it's either gp, gv, or ht but I've seen most players so far in dw or dl

[gleaming crater]

I currently have a late grown

[steep saddle]

mines grown too but i haven't filled out her abilities yet (her name is nuggie)

[gleaming crater]

Yeah the Mark's are a pain, most creatures reach adult before like 80% of the abilities are equipped

[steep saddle]

cera berta and eo have that problem definitely, lat isn't so bad, but it's got a lot of abilities to play with

[plush flax]

I just don't get the point of sitting in a discord group barely playing in one spot bahah 😭

[steep saddle]

I get it for herbivores cause they kinda don't have much to do when they reach adult

[gleaming crater]

Also u dont have to watch the clip but this is an interesting glitch I got when loading into permadeath

Allo must be not playable and coming soon apparently lol

[steep saddle]

oh yeah someone else has seen that before too

[gleaming crater]

Oh

Imma get on permadeath or sum

[steep saddle]

I haven't but I don't play PC much

[gleaming crater]

I play on xbox, just use kbm

[steep saddle]

oh I didn't know you could do that with xbox

[gleaming crater]

Yeah, only some games unless you use a xim or zen

But I dont use those cuz its boring

[red pewter]

anodonto is too powerful... no one even dares approach you once you're adult

[steep saddle]

it's like biting a rock

[plush flax]

Nobody approaches my Amarg either

[steep saddle]

I mean once I get on i can try my hand but I'm not good and I'll probably die

[verbal jetty]

they need to add a quest where u track a players foot prints, broken branches etc and then you can sniff them and know their location

[plush flax]

Bounty hunt quests perhaps?

[gleaming crater]

I really want a tracking system in general, I track footprints a lot but it's hard without bleed, I though a good tracking system would be that if u stand still for 10 secs then press the abilities button, u would be able to see yellow/orange footprints for normal, red for bloody, and green for poison/venom for 30 secs and after the 30 secs it has a 30 sec cd

Also footprints need to last longer cuz they are there then gon quick lol

[steep saddle]

that'd be cool for small carnivores honestly

[gleaming crater]

Yeah, I would think largest to have it would be allo

[steep saddle]

when you're not taller than a bush it's easy to lose sight of your prey

[gleaming crater]

There was another idea where only some can use it for some footprints like allos could only highlight bloody footprints and metri can jiggling poisoned and venom footprints

[verbal jetty]

yes ive really been wanting more tracking... wandering around hoping to bump into someone isnt very immersive i want to tactically unpick my prey from hiding

[gleaming crater]

Hiw did it auto correct to jiggling lol

[plush flax]

Jiggling 😮

[steep saddle]

[gleaming crater]

I like to talk about stats a lot lol, going off of that I thought of a couple of cool metri changes, like 1 was to where if u eat noxious meat u do reflective venom and poison if u have the hide, and ur bite does venom for 5 mins

And another was kinda like arks vera where u can replace bite with a headbutt with 5 or 10 sec cd and if u hit a player with poison then u and all nearby allies heal like 5% hp or sum, but this would remove the healing calls probably

With the venom one I would think a cool way to tell is that the metri will be shaking and drooling like paralysis and would be slobbering venom

[red pewter]

i have been gifted an arapaima by a random meg

[bronze shell]

U r noww the cooolest anki

I hate it when ppl just eat the present i give them 😦

[steep saddle]

a pyc gifted me a didelphodon last night and I felt obligated to take it despite being scared out of my mind (lat w/o pounce)

I couldn't even eat it I'm running scavenger

I just took a chunk and ran off

[red pewter]

a hatz inherits the fish

and then he bit me and ran away lol

i found the fish again

[steep saddle]

are you carrying it again?

[cursive lion]

Lol an eo and an iggy tried to get my Cera

[red pewter]

yeah

[steep saddle]

at least he was nice enough to leave it for u

[red pewter]

seems they dont want the fish

[gaunt crow]

why is it so difficult to find a child to give a trophy to oml

[red pewter]

damn they almost killed me

brought me down to 1%

but a cerato came and attacked them and saved my life

almost got the fish to green valley

[steep saddle]

dasps?

[red pewter]

no suchos

[steep saddle]

ooough

[red pewter]

they were exploting a push glitch to get me out of honker

I FOUND IT

my hatz happened to be nearby

[steep saddle]

the fish!

just airdrop that shi into the water

[red pewter]

damn the cerato killed one of them, nice one whoever you are

[steep saddle]

that's impressive fighting a sucho was hard on cera

when I tried it

[red pewter]

the fish has reached green valley

back into the water you go

[steep saddle]

pilot intercom voice "we hope you enjoyed your flight and welcome to green valley"

[red pewter]

i owe this random cerato my life 😭 i wonder who they were

i was at 1%, getting chased and unable to get them off me and he just popped in at the perfect time

and once he attacked they ignored me for long enough to safe log

that was so annoying. they kept pushing me and forcing me off of honker down

i tried walking into a wall so they coudln't push me there and not even that worked

[steep saddle]

a hero, that cera

[hasty willow]

My Iggy has lived for 6 hours and doesn't have a single scar

Because everyone I come across is either unwilling to fight me or doesn't do enough damage to leave a scar

Iggy life is slow and boring

[split copper]

Were you the little Iggy in Hot Springs yesterday that I gave a berry branch to?

[hasty willow]

No, I've been grown for a while. I usually wander around Savannah or GP.

[split copper]

Ahh okay 🙂

[cursive lion]

If you're bored and near savanna I'll fight or spar with your iggy if you want sometime. Curious how they fight after they changed it. I have a stego adult

[hasty willow]

Honestly, it fights super defensively since it can't attack in front of it while sprinting. It's primary attack (it's Thumb Barrage) forces it into Bipedal Stance and it can't be in Bipedal while sprinting.

But we could always spar sometime! That would be fun.

I use the Fossil Skin on Iggy.

I'm not on right now, but I will be later.

[cursive lion]

Sweet. I've only seen like one or two iggys on these servers but maybe I'll see you around.

[hasty willow]

Hopefully! A fight should be fun.

[elder sand]

Because iggy is kind of trash right now unfortunately

Wouldn’t even play it til they fix the thumb barrage and the tail dmg

[formal palm]

I've seen a iggy kill a Rex on here, iggy can't chase and attack smaller things but it sure as hell messed up the slower apex

[boreal lichen]

Not me screaming when butterfly flew past my screen.

[boreal lichen]

:D

time to grow again.

[frozen girder]

Always. And those flying grass I keep confusing for dinos running in the distance

[opaque pecan]

Been hunting an Iggy with my conc🥲

[formal palm]

Good luck!

[hasty willow]

Oh? How is that going? I think Conca could win so long as you're super patient.

You could bleed them out or goad them into chasing you around.

[hasty willow]

Is Thumb Barrage broken?

[formal palm]

Do you ruin ripping or dive on conc?

[opaque pecan]

I have found one day 1 perma, but an Albert came in and defended it, then another conc came and killed both of them 🥲

[hasty willow]

That's crazy

[formal palm]

Was it in sav?

[opaque pecan]

They were in granplain

[formal palm]

Okay wasn't me then lol

Currently looking at a iggy.... lmao

[opaque pecan]

Ripping

[formal palm]

Not in sav to be clear. I'm not one to drop random location on people.

[elder sand]

Has trouble hitting short Dino’s and they nerfed the sprint thumb so hard you are only gonna hit things that run right into you

[formal palm]

Well hitting short things when you stand on your back legs to punch kinda makes some sense.

[hasty willow]

To be fair, most Herbivores shouldn't really be chasing things down anyways. A lot of them are better played defensively.

[formal palm]

About to same the same thing ^

[boreal lichen]

oh your conc still thrives?

[boreal lichen]

I today thought i grey log was a weird sarco.

[frozen girder]

Logs and Rocks, classic fake dinos

[opaque pecan]

Yeah, I only play a couple hours per day so my survival rate's still high😂

[formal palm]

I might make one now, they are fun. Just on offical it's rough withbfhe big groups

[boreal lichen]

hahhah. understandable. :D

[opaque pecan]

Yeah, it's fun, most of people had gone thristy or starved while fighting against me.

[boreal lichen]

I'm running very controversial Laten build. I have not yet had chance to test how well it works.

But basically full bleed. No pounce.

[formal palm]

Good luck on that lol

[boreal lichen]

Thanks XD i like to test things out. after all they have all these skills they have given us. I have another Laten build i wanna test tho if this one does not work out.

[bronze shell]

I've tried that pretty fun xD but on a pvp server

[boreal lichen]

ooo any success?

[formal palm]

I am baby Conc now

[opaque pecan]

Laten can give 50s of bleeding just by doing one bite in PvP server😐

[formal palm]

50s!!

[boreal lichen]

yeah it is grazy!

[bronze shell]

Yeh i think the pvp juniper server is rigged ))))

[opaque pecan]

The claw of a baby conc can give serious bleeding 💀

[formal palm]

I gotta get it first lol

[bronze shell]

I killed a stego as laten there lol bleeding it solo

[steep saddle]

claw is like 300 so its not expensive, probably the first thing you should get

[boreal lichen]

Excuse me that was not the emote i wanted to use.

[bronze shell]

No pounce only bleed bite and kick gonna try it smday in perma after my conc dies xD, but i doubt imma trying it on a stego tho xD

[steep saddle]

the second leg slot feels like. wasted tho if i dont use pounce

[boreal lichen]

Thats what i am running :D With stam regen sub.

[bronze shell]

Where do u live as laten or do u travel? If its no secret

[opaque pecan]

Ripping kick can punish you if you miss 3 times in a row so becareful

[boreal lichen]

Always around broken tooth, stego, hoodoo, sand cave and ripple.

As anything

really

[bronze shell]

Yeah ripping is goood against slower stuff that doesnt outstam u and good for making distance claw try to claw them more then kick to save the stam

[bronze shell]

Ooooh i do stego hooodoo ripple gh bw tp savana smtimes as conc

As laten i stay in dw cave and wait for prey xD (officials)

[boreal lichen]

I would say the thing about ripping kick is true also for laten.
The kick also has interesting hitbox that does not register if you kick right at the target. you kinda have to start it earlier.

[bronze shell]

Oh yes its annoying af xD conc kick is better

[boreal lichen]

Savannah is also nice yes ;; just sad how for HT is there and that one has such a weird POI area.

[bronze shell]

But the raptor kick seeems to kick further which also helps avoiding damage after the kick

[boreal lichen]

That is true!

[bronze shell]

Plus i kick through the body of a big dino just went right through it xD

[boreal lichen]

I almost died yesterday. Somehow he missed me completely. (community server)

[opaque pecan]

I kicked a bars from hit head and ended up at it tail. Dude hit me 2 times 😑

Head then tail

[bronze shell]

Lol xD woww scary
@opaque pecan RIP

Hope they make permadeath a thing sooon so i get to have smkind of reward killing dinos r just by playing it xD its getting a bit boring no point collecting trophys too

[opaque pecan]

Yeah, it needs a bit of reward for every playthrough like a rouge like game

[boreal lichen]

You mean how the trophies in caves will go away when you delete the dino?

[bronze shell]

Yeh r die plus decorating hc is not fun as decorating nest

They can make nesting a thing but wwithout kids i dont mind xD

[boreal lichen]

I'm just waiting for them to add achievements in general. And maybe some sweet rewards from those.

Tho i can predict it will make some mega groups even more annoying as they are achievement hunting.

[boreal lichen]

now this would be needed addition.

[bronze shell]

Well atleast here if they die they gonna make a new one xD that warms my heart

[boreal lichen]

Yeah. I would assume they would make specific permadeath achievements that are separated from normal officials if this game mode is ever going to stick.

[bronze shell]

I like the permadeath concept here not the solo not the anti grouping tbh, i played in officials fine but having to face with lots of revenge killing switching dinos that annoys me

1-2 dino slot and permadeath makes the game more balancing

[boreal lichen]

[bronze shell]

I would remove switching skill on the spot

Just hope permadeath wwill become a thing xD

[formal palm]

Me too but these critters need to chill. I'm getting jumped

[boreal lichen]

I think Matt has already said that the normal officials wont be having it. They will stay unchanged.

[boreal lichen]

oh i love broken tooth, There is critter for every 10 meters. I need to run while collecting quest items.

[bronze shell]

Its goood tooo permadeath should be seperate so the dc groups would stay in officials xD

[formal palm]

Oke snake and the little trike just jumped me trying to pick flowers xD

[formal palm]

In burned rn

[bronze shell]

An apex being chased by a critter is the funniest thing xD

[boreal lichen]

lemme show you my experience, just moment as i go thrugh replay.

[formal palm]

That damn giant turtle

[boreal lichen]

They hate when i take their shrooms

[bronze shell]

Hahah both spinning XD

[formal palm]

That yellow face cussword can go somewhere lol I hasaate it

[bronze shell]

They r so tanky xD

[formal palm]

For nooooo reason man

Got my claw and kick now

[boreal lichen]

!!

Very good

[formal palm]

Just gotta hit sub next. Idk what hide or tail to use here.

[elder sand]

Kentro plays defensively but can still finish off or poorly chase things down iggy can do neither. One good meg can literally beat iggy right now

[hasty willow]

That's fair, but Kentro still really shouldn't be chasing down much. It's one of the lighter herbivores so it can sometimes but it doesn't have the stam to really chase down a lot of carnivores.

But yeah, I get it. Iggy seems to be going well for me so far, but I also haven't been in any real fights yet.

I'll have to see how it plays when I am in a fight.

[elder sand]

Just you wait haha group of mid tiers will murder you

[hasty willow]

They might lol

But a group of anything can murder anything tbh

[elder sand]

For sure but i could fight 2 megs easier on Kent than iggy and that’s just a joke on poor iggy

[hasty willow]

That's fair. I'll just have to see. If my Iggy dies I won't be that upset anyways, I wanna play something else.

I don't wanna just delete it though but I'm getting to that point.

[elder sand]

Ya for sure ! I abandoned iggy tho it’s honestly trash they had to it perfect before the tail nerf update

[hasty willow]

Yeah, that tail nerf hurt

Spino is a joke now with it's Tail Attack

[elder sand]

It launches you so far but ya land spino is toast

[hasty willow]

While Pycno can bully it with it's insane tail knockback

And damage

[elder sand]

Also planted feet iggy can walk right up its tail

[hasty willow]

Amarg too, it has Knockback immunity sense

[elder sand]

Good spin is should stay near water

Spino

[hasty willow]

This is true, but on my Spino I wanted to die

Otherwise I would literally never leave the water as Spino

[vague patio]

Which dino should I make next, hmm

[wheat cargo]

I'm choosing the thing that killed me, kinda fun to do it this way.

Hatz doesn't count xd

[cursive lion]

Funny enough i have seen a ton of hatz yet I have never gotten killed by one

[vague patio]

I would do that but I already made a pycno… hmm… maybe a sucho?

[cursive lion]

Hello Sour

[wheat cargo]

After your pycno eventually dies, play the thing that killed it :D

[hasty willow]

Hello

[hasty willow]

That your stego?

[cursive lion]

Yeah lmao

[hasty willow]

We can spar if you want to

[cursive lion]

Up to you.

Squat to concede?

[pallid forge]

Had such a nice 1vs1 with a iggy and then a Hatz came and ruined by trying to join me. Freaking Hatz....

[hasty willow]

You were the Achillo?

[cursive lion]

I hit the hatz lol

[pallid forge]

yup

[hasty willow]

I was gonna heart call, because Iggy can't crouch lmao

[cursive lion]

Ah that's right

[hasty willow]

You can crouch tho

[cursive lion]

Sounds good. Do the heart call real quick

[hasty willow]

Sorry about the Hatz

[cursive lion]

K whenever you ready!

[pallid forge]

no problem it was a fun fight

[hasty willow]

Ready

Damn

Iggy gets wrecked by Stego lmao

[cursive lion]

Ggs

[hasty willow]

It was fun

[hasty willow]

Ggs

How much damage did I do? I wanna know what that stomp does

[cursive lion]

The stego is pretty strong

[hasty willow]

Decent then lol

I expected to do less since Stego is super tanky

It's hard to dodge and still be able to attack as Iggy

[cursive lion]

Yeah you got me a couple times with the barrage but you got a good hit with that first slam

[hasty willow]

I gotta practice

[hasty willow]

Nice

I'll practice more

[cursive lion]

For sure bro

[hasty willow]

I'm glad Iggy heals so fast lmao

I'm heal Sub with Heal Hide lmao

30% faster healing

[cursive lion]

Beast

That's really good

[hasty willow]

I have yet to lose against a carnivore

[cursive lion]

I just run the def hide on stego

[hasty willow]

Looks like herbivore might be a different story

[cursive lion]

I'll bet iggy is kind of a tank

[hasty willow]

Oh nice

[cursive lion]

+bleed sub

[hasty willow]

I get 20% armor while Bipedal

[cursive lion]

Was the bleed good?

[hasty willow]

Yes, I had a lot of bleed

I don't remember how much exactly but it was over a minute

[cursive lion]

Lol a bars over there

[hasty willow]

Bars life difficult these days

Tail nerf hurt it a lot

[cursive lion]

I fought a stego a long time ago but it wasn't very good on official

[hasty willow]

Some stegos play too aggressively

[cursive lion]

Iggy Stam is so good after the tlc

Yeah

[hasty willow]

It fr is

It regens well too

[cursive lion]

If I run out of stam I'm kind of done for if I'm fighting something big

[hasty willow]

Fr, and Stego can be pounced by Achillo too

Not as bad since you can hurt them while they are latched but they do a lot of damage

[cursive lion]

Right

Another stego too lol getting hot here

[hasty willow]

They're fighting

The stegos

[cursive lion]

Spar I think.

[hasty willow]

Ah okay

That's fair

Hey, I got a cool scar now!

On my leg lmao

[cursive lion]

Haha sweet

[pallid forge]

You got around 25% of my total health I believe before I attacked the Hatz and got a full peck parade in my face

[hasty willow]

Ouch! Peck Barrage hurts a lot

[cursive lion]

Peck parade 😆

[hasty willow]

Might as well be with how much it can be spammed

[pallid forge]

I'm just glad that the hate for Hatz is universal and a Stego decided to attack this Hatz or I might would have died there.

[cursive lion]

I saw you two fighting and he butted in. I don't care for hatz but I really don't care for interrupted 1v1s

[hasty willow]

Me either

I was enjoying that 1v1

I didn't know a sarco could fit in that littlw pond

[red pewter]

awfully bold of some juvi dinos to walk by an anodonto's tail

like just passing through

like if i was hostile you're definitely in range of 1 hit kill by splash damage

[hasty willow]

Ggs!

[cursive lion]

Rip iggy

[hasty willow]

I definitely think that Iggy's stomp should have splash though, that thing is so difficult to hit.

[cursive lion]

It doesn't?

[hasty willow]

Eh, it lived for almost 7 hours, I was getting bored of it.

[cursive lion]

Rough

[hasty willow]

No, it doesn't lmao

But GGs to the Achillo! Those claws really hurt.

[hasty willow]

Was that your achillo?

[hasty willow]

It will probably havs splash damage later. For now though it's just rough.

[cursive lion]

LOL the knock back for the bars tail is kind of good

[hasty willow]

How far does it knockback?

[cursive lion]

Ill send a video watching the bars and sarco fight now lmao

[hasty willow]

What herbivore should I make next?

[cursive lion]

Albert?

[hasty willow]

Hmmm, maybe. I made an Albert before and it just got demolished by a Hatz when I got to Sub

[cursive lion]

Damn really?

Alberts are Perry strong

[hasty willow]

Yeah, I was a fresh sub and didn't get my berserk ability yet

And it was just spamming Peck Barrage

[cursive lion]

Lame

[hasty willow]

I wanna try something with a Tail Attack

I need to get better at those

[cursive lion]

Stego

[hasty willow]

Stego does look fun lol

[cursive lion]

It's all it has 😎

Honestly 1v1 I'm pretty confident vs anything but rex and eo

[pallid forge]

Yes that was me.

[hasty willow]

Ggs

Did I get you low?

Also, I'm sad my stomp doesn't have AOE

[pallid forge]

about 25% of my total hp

[hasty willow]

Honestly, Iggy needs it's bleed back

And that stomp needs an AOE

But otherwise Iggy was pretty good

[cursive lion]

Hopefully it comes through with decent quality

Bars sent that sarco a little ways

[hasty willow]

I'm on my way back to savannah lmao

[cursive lion]

Nice

It's kind of died down a bit still a few adults in the area though be careful

[red pewter]

an interesting amount of dinos

not pictured: amarga and allo

[hasty willow]

Well, I'll get to savannah if I don't die to critters first sheesh

[red pewter]

i think these guys are mix packing

[hasty willow]

Ew

[red pewter]

strangely only the spino is trying to attack me

the others just sit there and watch

[hasty willow]

Maybe they think the Spino can handle it?

[red pewter]

nice of them not to butt in lol

[hasty willow]

Or maybe they are smart and don't wanna attack an ano

[red pewter]

like the spino is clearly attacking anything else that approaches that isn't those 3, but ignores them and they ignore him

based one turn each mixpackers??!???!?!?

but whatever, i got a chance to safelog

[cursive lion]

Lol it's the day of 1v1s apparently

[hasty willow]

Are you still in Savannah?

I'm there now

[cursive lion]

I'm about to log and eat. Everyone left I think.

[hasty willow]

Fair enough

[cursive lion]

Ill hop on in like 20 min my char still there.

[azure sand]

Hey so I can definitely still invite friends onto the server on Xbox. That’s not supposed to be possible right

Or is it intended

[steep saddle]

im pretty sure its a glitch exclusive to xbox, try reporting it

[azure sand]

How do I report it? Bc don’t I also need a video? Xbox screen recording only records the game not the process to invite someone

[steep saddle]

good ole jank phone recording the screen

[azure sand]

Ha fair enough. Would I report it in the typical channel or is it the same for perma death

[steep saddle]

typical i think

okay so i watched a thal dive bomb into the ground so hard that he disappeared and slingshotted out as a corpse

also thank you to that ano in dried lake i was helping out a baby metri from the critter lol

[vague patio]

I encountered the one random kai out here

[steep saddle]

uh oh did anyone else get kicked

[hasty willow]

I did

And got rolled back like crazy

[steep saddle]

okay so it might have just been that server i was in

[hasty willow]

I was almost sub too

[steep saddle]

hey at least it means it happened to the server and not us individually

[hasty willow]

That's true

[vague patio]

yuuuup kicked

[pallid forge]

I thought for a moment that my internet connection was cut

[hasty willow]

I'm just happy I'm not being chased by two rexes anymore

[steep saddle]

lmao funny that we were on the same server

[hasty willow]

Same

[hasty willow]

That is funny

[hasty willow]

Also, you were the sucho I saw in Rainbow?

I was the stego

[steep saddle]

wild i was in ripple beach and got shot back to stego

[hasty willow]

I went back to HT lmao

[steep saddle]

from rainbow???? damn

4 min uptime tho

[pallid forge]

Does Cruel Swipe makes sense for Achilio or should I switch to Claw Attack?

[hasty willow]

Nah, I was in rockfell just a bit ago

[hasty willow]

Cruel swipe hurts

If you're big

[steep saddle]

achillo can only pounce 4 and 5 slots i think so its good if thats what youre going for

[vague patio]

yeah that was me haha

[hasty willow]

Honestly, I thought you were gonna try to fight me

You kept getting real close then backing off

I was getting pretty defensive lmao

[steep saddle]

what are you, left?

[vague patio]

I thought about it but I figured stego wins that every time at our stages

[hasty willow]

Stego

[steep saddle]

ohhhh

[vague patio]

I have the kill herbi quest on lmao

[hasty willow]

Ah okay

I was like "This sucho acting weird"

You got real close to me when I got in the water lmao

[vague patio]

it's allll intentional haha

[hasty willow]

XD

Had me on edge lmao

[vague patio]

I figured. I play this game too much, I've developed a habit of messing with everyone lol

[pallid forge]

Are adult Hatz considered big?

[hasty willow]

It is fun to mess with people lmao

[hasty willow]

Yes

Cruel Swipe does more damage the more combat weight the target has

[pallid forge]

Nice!

[hasty willow]

Yeah! It was doing a number on ny Iggy

Took a solid chunck out every hit

Hey, is Toxin good on Mira?

[azure sand]

Hey none of my friends are currently on and I think I found a glitch. Anyone on Xbox who wants to help me test somthing?

I think I can invite players onto the server through Xbox

Nvm I got someone

[vague patio]

dude, hatz have gotta go in this game mode

[graceful sequoia]

yeah. theyre too common

90% of my deaths are of hatzeg

[steep saddle]

ill try to kill as many as i can while my lat is alive

[elder sand]

Ya it’s the best build imo

[hasty willow]

Ah okay, I'll do that when I make a Mira then

[hasty willow]

Fr there are way too many

And they take almost no brain to use effectively

[graceful sequoia]

i join and its raining

[hasty willow]

It's fr always raining istg

[graceful sequoia]

i became nr 1 rain enjoyer to nr 1 rain hater

[vague patio]

just look at these idiot hatz

not a singular dino that can contest 2 of them solo, and if they die? 40 mins to quest back, and god they're so bad

[graceful sequoia]

same skins that massacred me one time lol

[buoyant cloak]

how good is sarco?

[graceful sequoia]

i wonder

[vague patio]

I'm just gonna safelog in the water bc u literally can't escape them lmao and they take 2 brain cells to play

[steep saddle]

omw

im get them

[graceful sequoia]

brain rot playable. remove it matt 🙏

[hasty willow]

Hotsprings huh? Omw

[steep saddle]

pog itll still b night

[graceful sequoia]

actual heros

[steep saddle]

died but its ok

[hasty willow]

They still there?

At Hotsprings?

[steep saddle]

one might be

the other flew off as i tried to pounce it

[vague patio]

F

🫡

[hasty willow]

Omw

[steep saddle]

i got plopped into the water thats why i died lol

[hasty willow]

Stego is slow though

[graceful sequoia]

i rlly love how hatzeg hate is mutual here

[steep saddle]

im not far on my berta tho!

[graceful sequoia]

finally rain gone, watch it come back in 4 mins