survival-test

[thorn mango]

[austere thunder]

How long to get from juvi to adult in permadeath?

[red sundial]

which servers will this be on? :0

[red sundial]

depends on the dino

[mild anchor]

Roughly 2 hours

[red sundial]

no updates for the next 2 hours okay
-# /j ofc :3

[copper meadow]

wtf not realy make perma death welcome in the isle 😅

[halcyon moat]

Red makes things go faster

[kindred rock]

Wish I could see this XD

[pulsar badger]

What is this mystery devil turtle

[tropic sage]

I wanna see it, so ill hop on for a sec

[pulsar badger]

He said it might be in later today so I’m guessing it’s not in yet

[tropic sage]

Oh worm, ill check later then

[robust hazel]

good morning, any changes to the server yet? or kept the same

[tropic sage]

Critters

Critters are mean

[robust hazel]

nothing new there 😔

was the hatz issue reported?

[floral kraken]

if you are a turtle they are very friendly

[pulsar badger]

What hatz issue? The fact that it exists?

[robust hazel]

no more turtles

[floral kraken]

i wanted to add a raccoon and jiggy said it was unrealistic, anyone want to back me up on this one LOL

[pulsar badger]

Make it a large raccoon with big fangs

[tropic sage]

I think you should add one, hang on there was a prehistoric one i gotta find a picture

[robust hazel]

don’t we already have raccoons? when dig them out the burrows

[stray totem]

Is my boss turtle dreams finally coming true?

[floral kraken]

yes

i just coded it in

[steady pawn]

its not any more unrealistic than dinosaurs of different time periods chillin lol

[floral kraken]

they spawn in groups of 5-10

[floral kraken]

W

[robust hazel]

no the ultra fast growth/killing everything in sight thing

[floral kraken]

trash panda lets goo

[tropic sage]

@floral kraken

[stray totem]

I cannot wait.

[pulsar badger]

Is that bug or just hatz being hatz

[floral kraken]

ez lol

[tropic sage]

Not unrealistic, theres megs so we should ahave these by that logic

[robust hazel]

hatz being hatz 😔 people were getting annoyed, but idrc, if you’re tryna grow then obviously go towards trees

[pulsar badger]

Sounds like my thal is needed in this mode

[thorn forge]

Flying to every location brings ya to adulthood

[steady pawn]

well thats just not fair lol

[pulsar badger]

That’s just the POI quest, it’s not really a bug. Flyers can get through POIs faster. They could adjust it so flyers get less XP but it’s not a bug, just how that quest works

[thorn forge]

Yee, just a lot faster to grow compared to something like an Ano

[pulsar badger]

Yeah, that’s just how they work though. Even on regular officials, you can grow a flyer much faster

[wispy thunder]

alright. i have chosen my fighter. she returns

[stray totem]

Just gonna casually throw out the idea to add that apexes could trigger boss music when they target you for an extra sense of dread

[floral kraken]

sure the red apex turtle im adding could do that

i thought were wasnt any other apexes on this mode?

[wheat grail]

Imagine a swarm just for the lolz

[floral kraken]

who wants to help me test game modes

[tropic sage]

Campto is the apex

[tropic sage]

Im 100% down

[stray totem]

I'm down

[tropic sage]

We talking KOTH and stuff?

👀

[floral kraken]

yeah

let me check my impact crator fix first

[steady pawn]

im down too

[floral kraken]

will test the IC removal on normal solo mode first

since they need it more then we do

[wheat grail]

Will it have invisible barrier?

[tropic sage]

Is the game mode testing text channels open ?

[willow gazelle]

No

[tropic sage]

Ive gotta use the restroom then ill be ready to help test

[floral kraken]

soo remove IC On perma death too

[willow gazelle]

Noooo

[floral kraken]

have fun

[tropic sage]

.... yes

[wheat grail]

Lmao.. yeepee

[willow gazelle]

Eep

[floral kraken]

while red turtle is building we can test game modes

[stray totem]

Yeees

[pulsar badger]

L crater pond

[tropic sage]

Rubbing my grubby little hands together

Im excited for some king of the hill

[wheat grail]

Wilderness peak is the new spot

[stray totem]

I can't wait for the community to name red turtle.

[tropic sage]

Wilderness percentage goes down fairly fast so we cool

[mild anchor]

Gg baby rex biting me from 2 body lengths away, as much as I love this game mode its so hard to fight with american ping

[vague prawn]

good old framedrop warning system when someone from another timezone gets near lmao

[orchid pawn]

having alot of fun in this game mode! prolly my fav now, just a bit confused as why the status says my dinos are dead they didn't get killed

[vernal pendant]

Honestly the existence of braced legs makes crater such a death trap for anyone without the ability.

[latent path]

just watched a rex get stuck in a rock and almost drown and that was awful and hilarious, glad you got unstuck

[granite crag]

matt please, permadeath mode is really cool but the ability to choose two characters ruins everything because people can kill and get revenge quickly. yesterday i fought a hatz and right after killing him the same player came back with another hatz 😦

[willow gazelle]

How do you know it was the same player?

[floral kraken]

its two chars cause of a bug

we will change it

this works

finally got it as a sticker

[drifting pecan]

Beautiful

[fervent bison]

it’s more like a “bad people” problem imho

[granite crag]

oh thank goodness...now it makes sense! ty matt

[fervent bison]

(I mean about the revenge thing)

[pulsar badger]

YES

Also revenge killing is just gonna be a thing anyway, tbh. If you kill someone in this mode, stay there and they regrow, they can come back and try to kill you again. People just can’t learn from a death, they have to try and save their ego by going back over and over again

[robust hazel]

someone know anything?

[floral kraken]

#game-mode-testing

go here instead

[thick summit]

I like this game mode

Permadeath

[boreal lichen]

The what turtle now?+

[floral kraken]

nothing

[boreal lichen]

[raven cape]

Loving it, please keep this game mode! 😃

[boreal lichen]

Yeah. It actually feels very rewarding to have survide so long as anything

[willow gazelle]

There’s 2 hatze in ic killing all the babies 😢

[boreal lichen]

Why are the babies at IC

[wet walrus]

Well ..... Trying

[steep saddle]

didnt expect to like permadeath mode tbh

[frozen girder]

I would like to see a video of someone trying permadeath

[willow gazelle]

I have videos but they are of when matt was dropping mass amounts of aggressive critters 😂

[drifting pecan]

Here you go

[frozen girder]

Too many tortoises lol

OMG why so many snakes

[static portal]

Perm death gives my brain the good reward feeling without feeling like I need to worry about being jumped by 7 ppl at once.

It honestly changes the entire pace of the game and how people need to approach it besides omg I'm a dinosaur bite.

[thorn mango]

Lmao love that

-victory roar- ... oh damn oh no NOT AGAIN-

[thick summit]

Is nesting active on this mode?

[frozen girder]

Oooh, the slam tail got fixed ?

[willow gazelle]

Yes!

[frozen girder]

I believe not

[thick summit]

Dam

[spring sedge]

It's not

For 100%

[frozen girder]

It would be interesting to have nesting on perma death

[thick summit]

Ye

It's funny to see are dino die in the menu over and over XD

[willow gazelle]

My ano hasn’t died yet 😁

[static portal]

Allow me to set the mood. A adorable conc tries me. Uses the ponds to kite me. We sit to heal on opposite sides more than once. But I understood this time.

[spring sedge]

Are servers safe from 100000 turtles now?

[floral kraken]

never

[spring sedge]

Well.

[wheat cargo]

My conc tragically died to a hatz "mixpacking" with 2 wadias

[boreal lichen]

I dont know what they are thinking but, honestly it was a good try.
Kinda feel bad for them tho.

[spring sedge]

I am all alone on server, safe from critters

[boreal lichen]

O_O

Time to grind heck out of those abilitys then.

dang. saw so many adorable bbies today. ;;

good luck growing.

[gentle berry]

Why are you purple ?

[spring sedge]

You mean my name?

Server booster

[gentle berry]

Ok

[tropic sage]

They all die to critters

[boreal lichen]

:(

[steady pawn]

i got jumpscared by a snake earlier lol (i lived tho)

[gentle berry]

And my achi is killing them so the eos, ankys, rex, struth, camptos cant be adult.

The best kill is when they reached adollecent so they invested enough time in it so they hopefully get angry

[boreal lichen]

I leave smols alone but have been killing apexes.

Then again... i hear struthio is beast

[gentle berry]

I kill all apex babys cause they just chilling again just in ic and be overprotective when thery are adult.

I hate struthi

[boreal lichen]

Props should have killed the one i saw earlier but it was too cute

[gentle berry]

They will just Form groups of struthis to kill you instead or finishing you of when you get attacked by someone else.

I recommend killing them befor they get to fast

[opal frigate]

sad to see, that people still groupe up

[stuck tree]

it's gonna happen, that's just multiplayer games

the goal of this is to add friction against the huge discord groups

[boreal lichen]

The rex i killed earlier had thal as friend.

[stuck tree]

you can't join your friends in servers so many groups you see are probably just randoms

[gentle berry]

And thats why i try to pick them up when they are alone so they hsve to grow again

[opal frigate]

I am now making a Hatz and hunt those groups muahahaha

[boreal lichen]

But i think it is just strangers forming groups

[stuck tree]

yeah

[boreal lichen]

not actually discord call groups

[floral kraken]

you can go make a hatz and stop groups

and actually make progress

[wheat cargo]

well I play duo with my fiancee. If we are attacked by another duo we both fight, but if solo attacks one of one of us leaves.

[stuck tree]

you can't join your friends in the server unless you sit there and try to keep matchmaking to get in the same server

BUT at that point

[wheat cargo]

But I suppose we are a minority

[gentle berry]

I attacked 4 adol allos yesterday killed 2 of them had a fight with the other 2 allos and out of " just random " 2 baby pyc showed up to help the allos ? Yea Sure

[stuck tree]

just use the normal officials

idk what to tell ya, people can't join off their friends in the solo matchmaking

so yeah probably randoms

people interfere with fights all the time

[floral kraken]

my best time is when there is a 1 vs 1 going on and i add 100 crabs

they both run away

[stuck tree]

like spraying riled up cats with a hose

[boreal lichen]

Matt the big turtles are scary now.

[gentle berry]

They where in a dc call it was in an area people arent to often never they where just random

[boreal lichen]

I love it

[wheat cargo]

but I was lucky enough to encounter only same-species small groups

[gentle berry]

Dont give me wrong i killed the third allo to and the other baby pycno

[wheat cargo]

3 dasps were scary, but still better than discord pack withunlimited dinos

[gentle berry]

And the 4 ran away so i can Finaly eat

[stuck tree]

how would they have joined the same server then apart from sitting there constantly trying to rejoin the same server? cause again they can't just go on and hit "join friend" with this mode

it makes little sense to do that when they can just be on disc on normal officials

[gentle berry]

Switching until you are in the same or be lucky and be in the same right away

[floral kraken]

if trolling a solo server is worth a million bucks to these people

they will do it no matter what

[stuck tree]

im not denying it happens im sure some do but like

[drifting pecan]

Remove the social tab

[stuck tree]

it's a stretch to assume every group you see did that imo cause there's little point to it especially on permadeath where they're gonna lose A LOT more than on official and these types of people group so they don't lose

[wheat cargo]

that would help tbh

[stuck tree]

or lose less

[floral kraken]

im working on it

[boreal lichen]

Oooo

[floral kraken]

im just testing my turtle mod atm

[boreal lichen]

....

[gentle berry]

It makes sense and you know why the perma death when u kill a solo is more enjoying then killing a dino in an almost no growth loose server. I get why they doing it.

[stuck tree]

would there be a way to have no social tab and still see how many people are on?

[boreal lichen]

I'm a bit scared now.

[drifting pecan]

Massive W matt,.. thanks,. You’re the best

[stuck tree]

i would hate not knowing if the server has 1 person besides me on or like 80

gives me an idea of where i should avoid

[boreal lichen]

Debug info would still show the number of players

[stuck tree]

ooh forgot about that

[gentle berry]

People will still do Grouping.

Imagine you log in the same place and one is on.

You switch as many time you need until your friend is right next to you so there is the no social Tab idea out of the window

[stuck tree]

yeah that's gonna happen regardless i know

i just wanna know if the server im on is dead or not

[floral kraken]

we can just detect you switching a lot

and put you in the same instance

[sudden silo]

Test modes look interesting, needs more changing but not too bad

[wheat cargo]

oof, just saw a baby hatz perch nearby me and a minute later an adult hatz made a beeline for me, to tally not in dc

[sudden silo]

Critters are OP for sure

[floral kraken]

which one got ya this time lol

[boreal lichen]

I like them that way

[sudden silo]

Doesn’t make sense to me

[stuck tree]

i ain't worried about grouping cause ik that's inevitable, i was just asking if they DID remove the social tab, if there was a way to see a number count of people on, hence why i asked

[floral kraken]

i hear the feedback im working on a critter buff

[stuck tree]

but i forgot abotu the debug info

[gentle berry]

I dont get why critters are op i just run away

[stuck tree]

some make no sound -glares at the snake-

[sudden silo]

lol not fun if you’re hungry and need to kill them

[gentle berry]

Salt rocks

[boreal lichen]

Do not face tank them.

[sudden silo]

Nah water would go low

So not very helpful tho

[gentle berry]

Attack them as you would 1vs1 them bite evade bite evade

[boreal lichen]

^ this

[gentle berry]

Hotsprings

[sudden silo]

As if I haven’t tried that…. lol

[boreal lichen]

Then how do you get hit?

[sudden silo]

I can see u just mock people

[floral kraken]

critters are defending their homeland

they are not food

[sudden silo]

Lmao

[boreal lichen]

If you keep running and hitting them while you go they will die and cant hit you.

[drifting pecan]

Critters are the real titans that walk the path,… we’re just the Ai

[gentle berry]

Mocking ? I give you locations where you can do that

[sudden silo]

Sure sure

While I’m on the other side of the map

[gentle berry]

Enough Salt and enough water

[gentle berry]

How the f would i know lol

[sudden silo]

Won’t change my mind tho, critters are quite Op

[floral kraken]

they were designed to be OP, im glad you let us know, i was worried they'd be too weak

[gentle berry]

No they are not lol

[sudden silo]

Ohhh it’s you the annoying Matt

[opal frigate]

Would be fun if you could log into a server as a critter, hide in the ground and come out as soon as a player comes, then bite 1-2 and flee back into the ground. 😆

[floral kraken]

they are buffed like 5-10x from normal server

[sudden silo]

I’m down for that

[floral kraken]

and i have this apex turtle im working on

thats red

if i can patch him in properly;

[sudden silo]

At this point, I’d like to be critter and kill all apexes

Ezzzz lol

[floral kraken]

that would be nice

[opal frigate]

that sounds cool

[wheat cargo]

was the hatz growth time adjusted? There's a lot of adults flying around

[floral kraken]

no

never adjusted

it would be in the playlist announcements channel

[wheat cargo]

ah ty

[gentle berry]

You can just fly the poi quest with Hatz so they adult in about no time

[drifting pecan]

Can we get a sneak peek or are you gonna surprise us? Santa

[wheat cargo]

yeah, that's why offsetting it by slowing their passive growth would be nice. Other flyers aren't a problem

[sudden silo]

I’m pretty sure Matt ain’t the only dev in path, or is it?

[drifting pecan]

We have many wonderful developers

[sudden silo]

Ohh ok good to know! Thought it was only Matt since everyone only mentions him

[floral kraken]

im just a intern

[gentle berry]

The poi give one Min of growth and Hatz can get all land poi i think 24 so 24 min of growth and some water poi

[floral kraken]

all the other devs are more important

[sudden silo]

Hmm ok

Well hats off to all devs

[wheat cargo]

if that's the case then I think only removing hatz from solo altogether would be a "fix" oof

[gentle berry]

You can see clearly he is just trolling people with critters

[sudden silo]

Except Matt but yeah good job devs

🤣

[drifting pecan]

Yeah, matts just the hired help,.. he cleans up after the dinos all go to bed

[sudden silo]

🤣

[floral kraken]

login ill spawn some nerfed critters near ya

can let me know if its any better

[gentle berry]

Making the poi just 30 sec would help so they would take double the time.

Cause i cant see that those people play Hatz cause they like him they play him cause he is the the fastest to grow so they can kill people

[tropic sage]

So the janitor?

[sudden silo]

HAHAHHAHA

[tropic sage]

Matt i need you to spawn them critters on KOTH

[floral kraken]

let me check if its updated

else ill give that a shot

[wheat cargo]

Yeah, I'm one of those that play hatz because they like it, but with hatz being a highly mobile glass cannon the amount of griefers and pure PVPers is absurdly high.

On solo permadeath someone already had pack of 4+ hatzes hunting them down.

[floral kraken]

when we doing the one life and if you die you get banned from that server

as a seperate mode

[drifting pecan]

Once chance you is all you get

[floral kraken]

let me check respawn works
oh no

[gentle berry]

But not just from the game. From Launcher and dc so they cant complain 😐

[wheat cargo]

the true permadeath

[gentle berry]

I just play my main ( Achi ) and i have fun

[wheat cargo]

My main is thal, so...

[gentle berry]

And then matt is sending you a burning 💩 bag to your location with a flag on it ( get better noob )

[opal frigate]

I hope Thal gets some abitities at some point

[sudden silo]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-laugh-crazy-car-gif-23244936

That’s Matt

[gentle berry]

Thal ? How?

[wheat cargo]

I really love my sky campto, on officials it's hella fun to annoy and steal from dc packs. On perma... not much sense in playing it.

[sudden silo]

Agree

[gentle berry]

Cause you get killed easy ?

[wheat cargo]

I can even kill hatzes as it, but with collision damage it requires more luck than skill.

[tropic sage]

Thal used to be one of my mains till hatz , i got fed up with the collision damage killing me 9/10

[gentle berry]

I think without the collision you cant even kill a Hatz with an thal. In the air

[wheat cargo]

Flying around and chilling is fun, but babies give no food and even unbuffed critters can be rough for a thal

[gentle berry]

U are a fisher

[sudden silo]

Man…. Sometimes we end up in places where there’s no fish nearby and we need food (babies)

[gentle berry]

I know

[sudden silo]

Stop replying being a smart ass

Stop trolling

[gentle berry]

Ahahhaa what your Problem now

[wheat cargo]

You can't, damage is ignorable. If hatz is on ground you have no chance.
In the air you can get it by collision damage, but there's a risk you will just die instead lol

[wheat cargo]

Rhamph is a more fun fisher tbh

[floral kraken]

hows the critter spawn rate is it more annoying

i doubled it

[gentle berry]

Yea thats what im saying.

Sometimes you can even kill thal with one blow as a Hatz when you are fast enough

[wheat cargo]

Barrel roll leaves a full health thal on like 1/4 or less. So not full health thal is usually one hit.

[raw crown]

Reminds me of those alpha creatures from Ark that are bigger and stronger than normal and emit some red particles

[gentle berry]

I love killing them on official with 2 - 3 Hatz cause they are sometimes the just scream 24/7 and we kill them the Moment we see them. We say thala thala thala like

[wheat cargo]

Not really seeing that many, but definitely hearing

[gentle berry]

https://tenor.com/view/mine-finding-nemo-mine-mine-mine-thats-mine-lulugifs-gif-20827668

[floral kraken]

the problem with the critter spawn blueprints is they only spawn like 1-2 critters at a time

we need them to spawn 5-10

[wheat cargo]

Realistic description of thal.
But if thal has self awarness and keeps its stam up there's no catching it as a hatz.

[gentle berry]

All the new fast one and give them 10× dmg and attack all dinos

[gentle berry]

Yes some are good thal

[raw crown]

Give bb to the alpha turtle

[wheat cargo]

the new fast 4 legged one is scary in groups, but they are running away even from my fresh spawn dasp

[gentle berry]

Thats why let them do attack all dinos regardless the size let them do 10× dmg and take like 20 Hits to kill them

[wheat cargo]

Hardcore apex population control lol, anything that can't escape will die

[gentle berry]

Almost all will die what is not a deinon and a Flyer

[wheat cargo]

give dynamo wings

[gentle berry]

And swimming

[raw crown]

Thankfully sea turtles aren't agressive, yet...

[floral kraken]

SOON

[wheat cargo]

that's the keyword: yet

[spring sedge]

I see no turtles, gladly.

[gentle berry]

I thought it was Apple Juice

[boreal lichen]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN.
have you not met the big tanky turtles yet?

o.o

[latent quail]

they aint turtles

they tortoise'

[unique pike]

Wah solo permadeath?

YESSSSSSS

[gentle berry]

Watch out you will get banned when you die

[unique pike]

Huh

[gentle berry]

Yea its the ultimate perma death

[unique pike]

So u can only play once?

Or just join other server

[gentle berry]

No im just trolling you just have to restart your dino

[unique pike]

Thank frick

[gentle berry]

Imagine getting banned for it that would be crazy ...... nice

[unique pike]

Yh lol

[wheat cargo]

died in solo perma, sentenced to official servers

[gentle berry]

For ever and you cant play any other Mode ever again

[spring sedge]

I just created two herbi- should I report?

[tropic sage]

?

[wheat cargo]

it's a bug if I remember right, only one dino will be possible later

[spring sedge]

I am able to play both, weird

[tropic sage]

Yep

For now

[spring sedge]

Alr

[wheat cargo]

It's nice to have a herb and carni, but it's for the better imo. I heard that alread some people grow 2 hatzes and just swap to the alive one to finish you lol

[opal frigate]

what you can create the same dino again in this mode?

[spring sedge]

I almost never play carni tbh

But I enjoy rex and alio

[tropic sage]

Same, i really only play campto

[spring sedge]

Me Ano and Sty

[robust hazel]

yea but you gotta delete it when you die otherwise it doesn’t work

[modest cape]

I dont like it.. like am waisting my time and farming marks skin and all then all delete when i die nah pass

[steady pawn]

they should remove hatz from this mode tbh it just isn't balanced for it

[floral kraken]

no worries the mode might be not for you can play a diff mode

[opal frigate]

hatz is fine, aslong as he is alone

[floral kraken]

agree tbh

[steep saddle]

thought the water was gone from ic?

[neon pollen]

can u drink it?

[steep saddle]

yeah

there was a croc in it and i drowned, first death actually

apparently i only just got a patch and im hoping thats what removes the water

[thorn mango]

Yeah I got a patch as well

[steep saddle]

not salty about it not at all

[floral kraken]

are ya sure you are on the right server, i dont have any water at IC On my one

[granite crag]

You can continue playing in classic mode, this is a more hardcore mode

[steep saddle]

yeah i cant log back into my solo mode adult cera lol

says he dead

[floral kraken]

weird

maybe the patch didnt load on that server for some reason

and it fall back to not having the patch

[steep saddle]

yeah when i re-logged bc the server was being restarted soon, the next server required a patch, im just assuming when it reset it was supposed to apply the new patch

[thorn mango]

Are the red turtles in yet?

[floral kraken]

I had issues patching them

So in mostly working on the patch system

To improve it

[thorn mango]

we are free...

[steep saddle]

hallelujah

no more pond sarcs ruining my day

[full current]

hmm… wonder how good rhamph is on this actually

like it’s solo mode but a buff from a rhamph when most of the time you’re 1v1 must be pretty meaty

20% more damage + potentially the turning debuff on ur opponent in a 1v1?

brutal

[granite crag]

Please fix the two characters bug, toxic hatze players are unbearable xD

[thorn mango]

Where the hatzes at?

[neon pollen]

in my nightmares

[bright basin]

Just had to fight a adol (I assume adol) pycno on my juvi meg..barely won cause I got to greedy

[split copper]

Most Rhamphs I see just steal my berry branches when I put them down to drink 😂😂

[granite crag]

The thing I like the most is this sense of progression in roguelike style, you can carefully choose the starting skills or skin to unlock and when you die you will probably try another build... I love it

[steep saddle]

when you can like. actually try them

cant do that if you keep getting kos by any dino thats spots you as a juvi,

[granite crag]

I played for 12 hours yesterday, what are you talking about?? obviously you have to have the skills and a good dose of luck and above all keep your eyes wide open because I am the first to kill anyone on sight. welcome to the jungle boy

[steep saddle]

its literally like the second i spawn in

[ebon vault]

@steep saddle You are one of those who goes around hopping under the legs of an adult Trex, aren't you?
Hide, observe, survive and no one will kos you.
With optimised bush rendering this will be even more efficient.

[steep saddle]

i did fine yesterday and i would have continued to live if the patch rolled out but now ive been struggling on juvi for like two hours trying to quest in not busy areas

[exotic orbit]

hatz should be removed from this game mode im literally unstoppable

[steep saddle]

im staying away from other dinos as best as i can but when you are on your first bar of juvi good luck running away from anything once they have your eyes on you

im not even a slow or big dino either

[split copper]

What Dino are you? Maybe we could give some tips based on that specifically to help

[steep saddle]

cera

[granite crag]

Nobody forces you to play hardcore, if you can't face the challenge, be strong or give up

[split copper]

Cera should be really good on solo, but getting over adolescent is the hardest part. I would immediately try to get to the northern part of the map where there are less people and the people that are there, typically, seem to be a bit more friendly. Stick to bushes THE MOMENT you hear footsteps and don’t assume any carnivore will just let you pass by if they notice you. Try to stay around places where you can get head cover too in case you hear wing flapping. Always assume it’s a Hatz

[ebon vault]

That's the survival guys. Stop to stay near Crater to speak like you are on The Sims Multiplayer.

[lusty granite]

very nice all play team 🙂

at titans path pycno iggy dasp ano play on group 🙂

[steep saddle]

honestly it just feels luck based with where ive been spawning, whistling columns and got killed in dark woods, hoodoo and got killed in sand caverns by a group of a struth and another cera

there was no way i could outrun either of them, admittedly the dasp i just survived from sf is easily juked but still

[thorn mango]

Hey Oddy you'll get the luck I believe in you

[lusty granite]

its extreme survival yes

but is SOLO why play team mixpack need banned this player really

fo play team go official classic

[bronze shell]

Albert gp if u r here do less carebearing please xD huge iggy cant fight off a solo conc and hides behind an albert its sad. Everyone else watched and respected the 1 vs 1 learn from them - conc

[steep saddle]

i'd be less upset if i didnt have to grind marks every single time just to be able to fight back

[thorn mango]

The marks could've been increased I agree

[split copper]

Yea luck is a huge thing too tbh. I spawned in Desolate Pass as a Pachy and the only thing that kept me from being lunch is my ability to jump well lol

And team play on a solo server doesn’t make anything easier im sure :/ I haven’t run into any mix packs yet luckily, but when they have fast creatures and a direct mirror creature, there’s really nothing you can do except hide in a bush and hope they are all oblivious

[wind moat]

seen bars and rex together with exact same name, like seriously, then all the "clans", it's a complete faliure from community point of view in my eyes, don't mind whole setting we got but it doesn't work the way players behave for me

[thorn mango]

This feels a lot like the isle gameplay but the isle unlocks your skills as you grow and here you just need to pick acorns

[split copper]

Which is cool because people are still passively growing, but if they want all their abilities and skills they will have to actually explore rather than bush camp and afk grow like in the isle

[gentle berry]

Thats just Bad luck ?

[steep saddle]

seeming like it today

[granite crag]

Imagine finding a player with the melanistic skin, it means that character was able to survive long enough to unlock that skin. That's awesome! It's something prestigious to show off...

[steep saddle]

spawned in savannah this time

[thorn mango]

Hmm I suppose so yeah I didn't think about the afk 🤔

[gentle berry]

And herbis

[wind moat]

more like show off who you really are

[boreal lichen]

You are right! my bad

[gentle berry]

Calling out people cause you cant call them out in global is wild man

[eternal lantern]

I love the fear factor you feel everytime you encounter a player now knowing you have one life I just died as my fully grown Rex but had a blast playing it would definitely grow it again

[granite crag]

Exactly!!

[gentle berry]

I would attack him at that moment. Depends what i am and what he is ofcours

[bronze shell]

Yeah ppl were respectful as hell in ic and gp no one tried to carebear xD i was surprised until the albert came.

[gentle berry]

And a kill means something now and not just spawning back almost loosing nothing and get ported back while you have to heal

[steep saddle]

i love the excitement, i like the Weight of everything, i like meeting others of my species and making a kinda pack just because we're all the same dinosaur! its fun! whats not fun is dying every 15 minutes and starting over from scratch bc youre a baby thats easier to kill than the critters now

[eternal lantern]

Honestly killing doesn’t really mean much but a kill no? Unless your defending yourself, but I killed a Rex it felt good but I didn’t know what to do after that hahah

[gentle berry]

People will always do what they want. Even you do what you want.
With that calling out stuff.
The best thing i recommend is not getting angry about that.

Cause uts just a game

[steep saddle]

its just exhausting

[gentle berry]

Killing the next guy.

I had a blast yesterday with my achi killing so much adolecent rexes and eos and i just said now you have to start over with your apex

[bronze shell]

Agree we are friends we play in solo permadeath but we dont carebear each other let each other solo fight xD so it was kinda annoying. I rarely callout even in officials but albert kinda deserves it in my opinion

[thorn mango]

I don't get why people get so upset about people protecting babies.. like it's not even worth a meal

[opaque pecan]

The pathetic Albert team up with an Iggy to fight a conc? I saw him got whacked by another momentarily later.

[gentle berry]

When its not the same diet and you are a complete other species i hate that to but when its a friend they are protecting i have nothing to complain.

The Thing is this behavior creates people that will kill even more babys as of now i do it cause you dont like it.

[boreal lichen]

I dunno. My number one rule has been:

1. Assume none is friendly. They are not your friends. not even your same species.

Followed by:
3. Make minimal noise.
2. Do not follow anyone. turn the opposite way.
4. Pick your fights. If you can't pick, do your best while fighting.

I cannot remember when I last time died while growing.

[gentle berry]

Basic human survival behavior. Its funny how we have to talk about this.

But people still gonna be naive

[steep saddle]

humans are also pack animals and there is an inherent want to trust other people unless you're jaded

its something thats difficult to get over

[gentle berry]

Yea i get where you comming from but ..... that trust must be worked on and not blindly trusting someone

For example i only trust my species when they are babys and even that i assume in the first 10 Minutes they could be a scout for sombody else

[split copper]

It’s not so basic anymore unfortunately

[gentle berry]

Trust me it will become

[split copper]

As a Pachy, the knowledge of the existence of an Achillo on this server is terrifying to me 😅😅 with all due respect, I hope I don’t run into you lmao

[dark fox]

And avoid wide open areas/hotspots. A lot easier to disappear into a forest than a field (and stay near water if swimming/diving is a viable escape option for you)

[gentle berry]

I killed yesterday one that was trolling an adult rex until he got Hit by the rex then i attacked the pachy while he was low

[dark fox]

I remember I was building a nest on Allo some time ago in a remote area of Hoodoo, and a random Thal appeared and kept yelling at me. Immediately safelogged because there's no way that wasn't a scout marking me for a megapack

[unkempt epoch]

100%. rhamphs do it too

[dark fox]

For sure. Always suspicious of any small lone flyer that hovers around me incessantly

[gentle berry]

Good reaction

[split copper]

Hence why you don’t take unrealistic fights on a perma-death server 😂 someone is always waiting around for something to go wrong lol

[dark fox]

The game hints even outright warn you about this. "Don't be afraid of the dinosaur you can see, be afraid of its friends you can't see..."

[gentle berry]

🥩

[astral flax]

Man I don't wanna work rn. I have alio things to do

[fallen rose]

Really hope that this turns out really good bc I enjoy playing solo but it’s so difficult (almost impossible) to be solo in officials with mixpackers

[shell shore]

There are mixpackers in this mode too.

[fallen rose]

Bruh

[fallen rose]

Is it pretty common or is it not as bad atm?

[steep saddle]

not as bad

[shell shore]

Less common though.

[digital cradle]

It's not as bad, and most mixpaxks only consist of around 3, the biggest pack I've seen is 6

[steep saddle]

our anchorman has returned! whats the scoop

[digital cradle]

I haven't got into work yet my friend but we'll be live soon

[fallen rose]

Sweet I’m down with that then, hopefully this will bring me back from the burnout

[split copper]

Not nearly as bad and there are multiple measures made to make it much more difficult. And even then, they can’t actually group up so they don’t get access to group buffs either, unless they have a Rhamph

[lusty granite]

duck ht go grow again xD karma - dasp

[boreal lichen]

yessss

[arctic coral]

We got any way to get unstuck in this mode? My adult sarco got sucked into a cave and I cannot get back out 🙃

[gentle berry]

/respawn

I think

[arctic coral]

That kills you and in a permadeath server, that means I’d have to start over again.

[lusty granite]

its so toxic team play on that SOLO mods

[gentle berry]

You prob die anyway.
Then i cant help you

[gentle berry]

It is what it is

[split copper]

Velocci is probably in paradise with the amount of content these test servers are providing

[sweet mantle]

can you play on multiple dinos here?

[steep saddle]

currently yes, but its a bug i think

u can get 2

[sweet mantle]

i better enjoy it while it lasts then

[digital cradle]

Omw to gondwa now

[split copper]

Ugh I wanna be home playing in the perma-death server, but I’m stuck at work and my boss doesn’t seem to understand how much more important dinosaurs are than this. L boss.

[digital cradle]

Hopefully you can get home soon so you can get on

[digital cradle]

Alright everyone, what's everyone think of that new logo for permadeath? I personally love it

[robust hazel]

100% amazing

[fiery yacht]

Idk if this was reported or not but even though my creature is alive the status thing when I log back in says it’s dead

It has not changed since I made the creature

[steep saddle]

my bb ded :(

[hasty willow]

I think the fliers need slower passive growth ngl

Growing too fast because of the POI growth

[digital cradle]

Azhdarchid Anchor here, there seems to be a diseased struthi child on the loose, watch your ankles

[stray falcon]

It's more like a bunch of random people showing mutual dislike towards you

[steep saddle]

if anyone finds its parents, let them know

[digital cradle]

Im getting a report now that I may have found it's parent

[kindred rock]

CRITTERS FROM SOLO IN KOTH?

[candid flint]

Sarco is hard

[lusty granite]

is not random, guys play team vocal

herbis follow you and big carnis join him on map when he chase you ^^ he talk vocal discord 🙂

[static portal]

It's honestly so good

[digital cradle]

Breaking news; group of 3 pycnos, a deinon, and a struthi ruthlessly maul a rex for 5 minutes as server restarts, rex gets help from bystander hatz last moment but the hatz gets severely wounded

[static portal]

Like this is the best game mode. Even just regular official with groups and perm death would hit such a good reward center of the brain for all the vets

It honestly changes the entire dynamic of how we play and takes the normal aggressive arcade feel of regular official and makes it more realistic and scary. It's been a long long time since I've felt the fear in this game and this mode deff provides

[stray falcon]

You can't join friends serevers on solo my guy

[digital cradle]

People are still getting around this by voice calling over discord and server hopping until they're in the same one as said friend

[stray falcon]

I'm sure they are

[stray falcon]

I'm gonna gaslight you now :3

[digital cradle]

You heard it first here folks, local attempts to gaslight news anchor

[cold cypress]

Are gamemodes back

[digital cradle]

Just king of the hill for now

[plucky steppe]

how solo permadeath work?

[kindred rock]

KOTH is

[digital cradle]

No groups, no joining friends, passive growth, and if you play permadeath, you have to start fully over when you die, but the growth is so much quicker than regular officials

You also keep any skin you unlock after death

[stray falcon]

😂

[plucky steppe]

so if im daying i need to restart

[digital cradle]

Yes but the growth is very fast, I grew a hatz about 6 times yesterday

[plucky steppe]

and i can t type in global chat is that a part of the game

[kindred mortar]

Yea

[steep saddle]

no global no local

[plucky steppe]

thanks

[split copper]

This is seriously the most immersive experience I’ve ever had in this game. It feels way more like realism than even PTR. It’s a similar feel, but permadeath and not having to see “can I get the name of the dinosaur that killed me so I can report it” constantly in global makes it SOOOO much better

[digital cradle]

Azhdarchid Anchor here, someone drank all the water in crater, im going to assume this is related to the abnormal jump in critter population

[lethal ledge]

Xdd

[steep saddle]

im just thankful theres no more "L CONC/CERA/EO" in chat

[lethal ledge]

I bet you know but someone might not

[cedar harbor]

Thanks to the hatz that chased off that campto that had me trapped in Stego Mountain last night! - signed the baby conc that had no stam in the middle of the pond 😅

[snow spade]

On one side its actually no fun without chat but on the other side it gives quite peace cause no unnecessary scolding like todlers cause they think they're so great they slaughtered 1 alberta with their mixpack

[digital cradle]

We have a chat here to talk about what's happening in the servers so it's a good trade off i think

[stuck tree]

tbh idk what's fun about peope constantly being arseholes in global anyway

good riddance

[snow spade]

There are some really fun people I've met tbf

[plucky steppe]

are there more servers

arent *

[digital cradle]

There are at least 2 solo permadeath servers

[snow spade]

But like 90% of the playerbase is all about their ego ngl

[stuck tree]

nice people in global is nice but imma be honest, they often get talked over in the chat so the niceness is rarely seen

i said nice too many times

now it sounds weird to read

[plucky steppe]

only

[plucky steppe]

how much players per server

[snow spade]

100

[plucky steppe]

oh ok ty

[snow spade]

Yw

[digital cradle]

Lovely sunset for all gondwanians this evening

[full current]

the more i look at this message and then ur profile the funnier it is

hatz screenshot hatz name hatz pfp

[drifting pecan]

Reporting live at the scene

[full current]

I might keep being a laten. Feel like it’s not too bad to grow and does decent damage for its size

literally all i’ve grown on this is laten but shhh

[drifting pecan]

I was doin hatz, but honestly rhamph is more fun,.. shame it cant do damage in this mode

[full current]

That or conc

I like rhamph but you really can’t group w randos even on officials

9/10 they’re not like willing to properly work with the rhamph

[drifting pecan]

Yea and no one knows ur buffing them so they shake you off,…

[fossil hound]

Does it not show the effect?

[drifting pecan]

Idek tbh,.. I doubt they could even read,.. if they don’t know what rhamphs do

[static portal]

Is there a way to add a buff to prevent people from staying near eachother out of combat? Maybe like the homecave buff and thst could prevent possible mix and or packing

[fossil hound]

Wont work. The mixpackers would just slap each other once in a while to prevent the debuff. On the flipside a struthi could debuff your allo by hanging out near you and never attacking

[cobalt bramble]

proximity debuff would be a terrible idea in practice

[storm smelt]

Yeah I don’t want more restrictions on a pvp game <<;

No way to really handle non party groups unfortunately <<

[pure kayak]

To the duck that just stalked me for the past 15 mins, i saw you this entire time when you jumped me and still lost me. 🤣

[dawn silo]

Have any changes aside from removing crater water source been made? Last change I'm aware of is the critter buff yesterday morning

[tribal meadow]

Any changes will be announced here #playlist-announcements message

[dawn silo]

While sometimes thats true it was not true for the critter buff yesterday

stuff gets tweaked without being announced which is why I ask

[pallid forge]

I heard that Beasts of Bermuda has a interesting stress mechanic that slowly negatively affects you when you constantly stay around un-grouped different dinos

[steady pawn]

it does but wouldnt work well for path for the same reasons as any other debuff wont work

could be abused as a weapon which is arguably worse

[split copper]

And those same groups abuse the heck out of solos with it. Kill them without even touching them

[tribal meadow]

!feedback

[harsh sail]

You can submit your feedback on the Path of Titans Feedback Board!
https://feedback.pathoftitans.com/

[stuck tree]

it doesn't even work for BoB, people already work around it by being in discord calls and spreading out UNTIL they wanna attack someone then they all come together, then split back up to avoid the debuff being too bad

that and you can spec into builds that mitigate the intimidation

[stuck finch]

and intim goes both ways, so you can kill random people just by lingering around them with larger dinos, especially w/ intim builds

[vague patio]

what are the new assets that are added for permadeath mode I had to download?

[stuck tree]

matt was talking about a killer turtle apex mod

maybe... he wasn't joking

[vague patio]

off to grow a sarco in this mode!

[steep saddle]

mmmm love the mixpacks

[vague patio]

are there mixpacks in this mode? solo normal seems to have very few of them

[steep saddle]

yeah they still exist

wish they didnt bc it just kills the purpose of permadeath'

[thick hemlock]

I think the difficulty of forming a mixpack in solo mode reduces the frequency as much as we could hope for without community server style moderation

[steep saddle]

if there were more solo servers and more lead time between being active on one server to go to another, then yes, it would mitigate them a lot more

now lets just go sit in a hole somewhere until im near sub bc otherwise im just gonna b hunted down for easy food

[pallid forge]

That isn't really my experience so far. What dino do you play?

[steep saddle]

cera normally, which is good solo but not when you have a campto, lat, and styra on your ass

[dawn silo]

are we talking about BoBs horrible stress mechanic

i cant touch BoB with how many mechanics it has that actively prevent new players from playing

PoT better not introduce something like that

[thick hemlock]

Once solo becomes more popular (and I think it will) there will probably be enough servers to make it too hard for discord groups to meet up

[snow spade]

Maybe they should add a timer to people who swap too fast between a server like, when your switch servers 3 times in 5 min you'll get a 15 min waiting before you enter the current server.

[thick hemlock]

I didn't even realize it was possible to manually switch servers, maybe that could be removed entirely?

[snow spade]

Nah, it shouldn't be removed entirely tbf, some pity people tend to follow you fr like 30 min. I would like to escape that.
And yes, by logging in and out you'll automatically end up in a server with different weather or time of day

[pallid forge]

Okay we seriously need a limit for certain dinos. We have way too many Hatz.

[steep saddle]

i just sat here for like a solid minute biting a turtle to death, maybe their health should be turned down

mind you. doing Nothing But biting the turtle to death. it wasn't running after me, it wasnt attacking me

it was standing completely still and it took like 90 seconds of constant biting

[vague patio]

sh e l l

[stuck tree]

I genuinely dunno why they thought hatz was a good idea to enable

apexes in general honestly...

just make it where the only apex you could play is spino, like the old days

[buoyant cloak]

hatz isnt an apex but it should be disabled defo, bc it can fly it kinda invalidates the entire mode and is powerful

theres no risk to play hatz

and infinite reward

[stuck tree]

hatz may as well be considered one, it's basically a god in this mode

[thorn forge]

Saw one yesterday in DL

A Pycno tried to intervene, but pretty sure it went downhill

[steep saddle]

gp, but that was a given ig

[stuck tree]

between hatz and thal, you can at least fight a thal, but hatz for anything smaller is just.. basically a miniboss with the turn it has

it has very few openings

bro is a flying beyblade

[vague patio]

true!

[thorn forge]

Love that analogy

Also, nice pfp

@stuck tree

[stuck tree]

thank you!

[pallid forge]

Since I died again. What is a fun solo carnivore? Played mostly herbivores in solo so far.

[steep saddle]

im biased with cera, but allo i think might be good too

[austere cliff]

Conca is pretty fast and you can spec semi if you want

[vague patio]

tbh making an ocean sarc

grow it at sea, terrorize inland where no spino can stop u

[pallid forge]

Conca sounds fun, especially with the option to run into the water if things go south.

[robust hazel]

sucho always

[snow spade]

Hatzes do make it a horror game ngl

[fickle drift]

I had a lot of fun playing on Deinonychus a lot of interesting and cute interactions with other players including ones that were having problems fighting the critters because of their size and I saved them

@tribal meadow I got to say overall I really liked playing this mode kind of wish that's how the game was when it started for single player basically I feel disabling the communication made it much more realistic as in terms of what dinosaurs can't understand different species of dinosaurs definitely changed people's behavior for sure

[tribal meadow]

Thank you for sharing your feedback!

[fickle drift]

Yep I'm even about so hop on my Deinonychus right now oh by the way how long are you guys going to be running the test or I should ask how long are our dinosaurs expected lifespans in this test

Oh I see that you have King of the Hill back

[tribal meadow]

I can't confirm or speculate the duration of this test
When our team decides to remove these game modes, we'll publish this information in future announcements, so players can be aware of when the test is planned to end

[fickle drift]

Okay understandable. Man I missed all the testing that's been done before this I finally able to participate

[vague patio]

rip to this spino, all the lakes are empty except mine

[fickle drift]

@tribal meadow is there somewhere I can leave feedback for the King of the Hill testing

[tribal meadow]

You can leave it at https://canary.discord.com/channels/537375400867659875/1294508941296009330, or post on the page below

!feedback

[harsh sail]

You can submit your feedback on the Path of Titans Feedback Board!
https://feedback.pathoftitans.com/

[kindred mortar]

lol im struggling to quest. i hear noises and im sure ill die if i try to get to questing items

do the critters make collection noises now

[robust hazel]

omg u talking about the grass noise one? i absolutely hate that one 🤣

[kindred mortar]

dude i was hiding in a bush for 10 min bc i thought someone was collecting near me

[robust hazel]

LMFAO 😂😂😂 nah it’s just those little herbs critters things spawning then eating bushes 😭

[kindred mortar]

⚰️

[steep saddle]

rockfall has porbably a sub rex and i am Spooked

[boreal lichen]

What you playing as?

:O

[steep saddle]

just barely adol cera

[boreal lichen]

You can out run him easy. And hiding in there is also easy. You will survive :3

I believe

[steep saddle]

yea im p sure i can its still intimidating seeing an adult or near-adult in this gamemode tho

[boreal lichen]

Oh 100%

Even when you reach adult it is scary to meet one.

[kindred mortar]

an adult alio ran by my juvie conc lol

[boreal lichen]

Adult alio was thinking if they should try fight my alberta. They did not

[buoyant cloak]

a hatz walked over my baby pachy yesterday

[steep saddle]

a hatz did the drop tactic on my adol styra literally like 3 hours ago

[kindred mortar]

i feel like im playing the isle

man why are conc's water abilities so expensive

[steep saddle]

yeah ive just taken to wandering around rather than questing too much bc its decent marks and good growth

aside from places like rockfall where its dead

[neon pollen]

man this gamemode is actually so fun

[kindred mortar]

im just sneaking arounf trying to quest without being seen or heard

oh my god im hiding in some bushes, and i think i see someone playing an aqua conc

[radiant yarrow]

An aqua conc :0 a rare sight

[robust hazel]

rockfall is so based bro, best place in the world for me

[hasty willow]

Hatz is definitely an issue 😭

I love this gamemode otherwise

But I can't seem to grow anything past Sub before U get found by a Hatz and just Peck Barraged to death

Guess I gotta stick to small stuff still 😅

[radiant yarrow]

💔

[hasty willow]

Should I try Conca? I haven't played much of it since some of it's changes. I known it's still slow af in the water though. 😅

[radiant yarrow]

Still slow, bleed pretty good tho

[hasty willow]

Okay, I'll give it a try

[radiant yarrow]

Can bleed out a Rex if ya patient enough and it’s not a mega pack

[hasty willow]

Bleed claws or ripping kick?

Or both?

[radiant yarrow]

Both

Unless ya think ya may need to run away to the water

[hasty willow]

Okay, and I'm stuck between the Stamina Regen and Bleed Attack Subspecies? Which is better?

[radiant yarrow]

Depends, stam is good for water cause it’s stam is terrible for full water conc as is lol

[hasty willow]

I think I may only use water as an emergency escape because honestly it's really slow

So I'll probably go Bleed Subspecies then

[hoary plume]

stam is better

[radiant yarrow]

Yea it’s slow, either gotta go all in on water build to be decent

[storm smelt]

Lol got a eos to chase me down the dry lake hills 💀

[hoary plume]

you can use it in more scenario than bleed tbh

[hasty willow]

That's fair

That's fair I like the way it looks better too

[hoary plume]

also 5% more bleed isn't such insane tho

so stam is better, at least for me

[hasty willow]

That's also true

I'll try Stam then

Haven't really played much of Conca since before it's TLC

So it's definitely a lot different

[hoary plume]

yeah, its pretty good, didn't played it for a while rn tho

[pallid forge]

Encountered my first mixpackers at sand caverns. A Rex, a Styra and a Struthi. Luckily, my Conc got the water diving ability a minute before they arrived.

[steep saddle]

with the allo that was helping raise my cera and we were mourning the loss of my cera sibling and watching the sunset and then BAM new baby cera just ran right up to us

[ripe gull]

Loving solo permadeath honestly. For once I have a chance to play Sarco like an actual crocodile without a million other Sarcos and Spinos hunting me across the whole map, and the fights that do break out are tense.

Seeing people weigh their risks with fights is refreshing too.

[zealous trellis]

Just taking a nap after an epic battle not sure how many kicks that took… I lost count 0.o never thought my longest fight would be against a tortoise 😂

[hasty willow]

Can we please remove Hatz? Seriously, it makes this gamemode not fun at all.

[pallid forge]

Those little monsters are nightmare fuel for slower juveniles. They're so much faster now...

[neon pollen]

with this game mode, now all i need is a ui scale im happy

[distant aspen]

Urgh.. they cant give us peace can they? Like why dont go to offical and mixpack instead

[cobalt sparrow]

Because they want to steamroll people to troll since it’s permadeath and not actually face competition on official servers

[kindred mortar]

please don’t ping developers that aren’t actively in chat with you #rules

[pallid forge]

babies really should give more food in this mode at least.

[lone grail]

I like the idea of permadeath, I just can't do it with the mixpacks roaming about 😅. I'll stick to solo normal until it disappears

[pallid forge]

Paid the price for blindly jumping into a river during a chase. Spino got my poor Conc.

[fiery seal]

Did the fov change?

[neon pollen]

are we able to gift trophies in this mode?

no one wants to pick mine up lmao

[mild anchor]

I apologise, how do I make the suggestion? Is there a channel for that?

[stable lava]

i think there's a bug at solo-permadeath servers involving homecave debuff, it's been stuck with me for more than 15-30 minutes away from whitecliffs hc. I tried relogging and changing servers, but nothing worked

[stable lava]

@oblique merlin@junior cradle @quasi garnet

[kindred mortar]

you can make a feedback post here https://feedback.pathoftitans.com/

you could also wait for matt to get online and start chatting, and ping him then with your idea

[thick summit]

Permadeath with nesting would be interesting

[kindred mortar]

if you find any bugs with the new modes you can post them here #1273657060084416612

[pallid forge]

ic seems to be completly dead. Nice

[humble anchor]

Does it seem like tge field of view has changed 🤔 like its closer?

[stable lava]

thanks ❤️

[neon pollen]

solo permadeath is goated. id love restricted hud/no map and darker nights, and kinda make it the hardcore game mode

[sullen vine]

My only complaint so far is how short the kick time for inactivity is. I understand it’s designed to prohibit afk passive growing, but I got kicked in the time it took my juvie Allo to heal from 5% health to nearly full.

[kindred mortar]

you can def afk grow

ye ol’ rubber band controller trick

[wispy thunder]

almost died RIGHT when i was 10 marks away from getting dive. that was a huge relief

another meg nearly killed me (ofc)

i think once i get streamlined i'll be unkillable unless i run across another full water meg who snipes me as im running from something else

[fiery seal]

Curse you gv meg is just hit adult lol

[vernal pendant]

It's so unbalanced, basically get to pick any fight and be fine. Also some of the best dueling abilities in the game like Evil Eye.

[hasty willow]

Yeah, it really needs to be removed. I have 0 problem with any other dino but this one. It has no risk. Peck Barrage is unbalanced in this mode, while Evil Eye and it's turn radius and speed on the ground just stop you from being able to escape or fight back unless you're a grown Apex yourself.

[thick hemlock]

Just escape into a forest lmao, works every time

[torn vale]

Help:(

[hasty willow]

Not always a forest near you. The map doesn't have that much forest, unless I just live in Hunter's Thicket or something.

Not to mention it is way too fast on the ground. It was keeping up with my Sub-Adult Conca.

[stable lava]

Lost my sub-adult Duck because of the Bug

[unique pike]

AMAZING MODE PLEASE KEEP

[thick hemlock]

If you keep getting killed by Hatz then think more strategically about where you go. If you are hanging out in large open areas with no escape routes as something smaller and slower than Hatz, then you have more things to worry about.

Btw, Hatz's turning radius and stamina are both garbage, a subadult conca should have NO issue escaping it even if the Hatz can catch in in a straight sprint.

[stuck tree]

... hatz is a beyblade, what

people mean their precise turn, not the walking turn

that's the nutty part

[thick hemlock]

If you're running away from a Hatz then its precise turn is a nonfactor

[stuck tree]

it can fly, even if you run they MAKE it a factor

[thick hemlock]

If it takes off and flies after you, then just break its ankles turning around as soon as it gets near

[stuck tree]

that's helpful if you're on one of like 2 playables with fracture sure

[thick hemlock]

I don't mean fracture, I mean "breaking its ankles" as in outturning it

As soon as it gets near you just turn and run the opposite direction

[stuck tree]

you can precise turn while walking, it will just precise turn... i've very easily stayed on things trying to do this on hatz

[hasty willow]

If I have to be "constantly near a forest" then you are basically telling me to only ever be in like 7% of the map. Hatz is a huge problem. It grows too fast, turns too fast, has far more stamina than you are giving it credit for, runs too fast that it can literally catch up to a Conca. All of my deaths have been to a Hatz so far. Every single time I make it to Sub some random Hatz shows up and Peck Barrages me to death. Running into a forest doesn't help, trying to fight it does nothing because of Evil Eye debuff and even if you manage to kill it, they can just grow back to Adult in less than an hour so they don't have any kind of consequences.

The point is it's not fun to play against it. A Hatz showing up is almost certain death.

[thick hemlock]

Nah, you just have to stay in/near a forest until you're old enough to have better survivability. If you can't escape from a Hatz as a subadult Conca that's genuinely just a skill issue.

[stuck tree]

hatz bodies most ADULT dinos...

[hasty willow]

If I stayed "in or near a forest" you are again asking me to restrict myself to only 7% of the map. Hatz can follow you into a forest too, you know. Makes it more difficult to fly, sure, but that doesn't usually stop them.

Not to mention I would have to literally just sit there and passive grow for hours if I just sat in a forest.

[stuck tree]

like it's not about you being a baby, hatz are VERY good at killing a lot, even apexes if they run the right build

[hasty willow]

I shouldn't have to do that.

[hasty willow]

Right! And with practically no consequences since they grow so fast.

[stuck tree]

and can just fly off and come back

[hasty willow]

Exactly. I have literally had one follow me while it healed and switched abilities.

[wispy thunder]

just wanna say flying in a forest and avoiding trees is super easy

[stuck tree]

Hatz is also good on the ground too

i've had no real issues in forests before

they just land

[hasty willow]

Too good. It is no risk, all reward.

[wispy thunder]

trees only have collision up to a point, not the entire thing, so you can just fly through trees

[thick hemlock]

How much have you explored the map? A HUGE portion of it is forested. Birchwood, yg, whistling columns, darkwoods, hunters thicket

[hasty willow]

None of it difficult for a Hatz to navigate.

It does not help.

[wispy thunder]

hatz could stand to be more clunky

[thick hemlock]

Its less about flying and more about Hatz getting stuck on stuff once it lands. It has a wide collision box for its combat weight

[stuck tree]

hatz is supposed to be good on the ground, trees are not gonna stop it and that's fine but in this mode it's too easy for them to be a menace with little risk to themselves

[hasty willow]

It doesn't matter what dino I play, where I'm at or anything. Hatz has very little counterplay. It is hugely zero risk, high reward in this gamemode in particular. If it dies it grows back in less than an hour to just terrorize people all over again.

[full current]

tbh if you are not escaping a hatz when in the forest that’s a skill issue
i do agree they’re oppressively good and most of the map isn’t forest but if you can’t escape a hatz in the forest as a 1 or 2 slot that’s a skill issue, and as a 4-5 slot you can fight a hatz. 3 slot i think it depends on how u play

[stuck tree]

unless the hatz has no brain it's not gonna get stuck on much

ive had no real issue in trees anymore than any terrestrial

i think i get stuck on pycno more if anything

[wispy thunder]

im not one of the "hatz is ruining the game" types but there was a reason it was initially banned from solo mode, yknow

[stuck tree]

this

[wispy thunder]

platys want the smoke so bad

[stuck tree]

and you can't even eat em

[wispy thunder]

charged outta its burrow at me

[full current]

issue is hatz skips a lot of the issues of permadeath solo mode w the whole new locations give marks and growth

[stuck tree]

stay off the property line next time >:C

[hasty willow]

Even if it is, Hatz is still just unfun to play against. I don't want to just have to play low tiers to have any kind of fun in this gamemode or I would just go back to official.

It still can solo almost everything in the game spare another Apex with no real risk. That's just not fun.

[full current]

it’s high damage high speed. grows fast and what counters it best is any degree of grouping but there’s not really grouping

[hasty willow]

They always do

[thick hemlock]

I'm wondering if there are a lot of people used to trophy grows and being part of large groups who are having trouble adjusting to solo since it requires new skills and strategies? On most adults that can't facetank it its genuinely so easy to escape Hatz as long as you're mindful of your surroundings and understand its weaknesses\

[hasty willow]

I play solo 99% of the time. That's not the problem.

The problem is Hatz is a zero risk, high reward character in permadeath.

I normally play small stuff on official, so I'm not entirely used to playing anything bigger, but that doesn't really change the fact that Hatz is a problem.

I'm not the only one complaining about Hatz, you know.

[wispy thunder]

show no fear to the hatz. i just collected and walked away in one's face while it was hovering over me like it was tryna do something

[hasty willow]

My problem is I wanted to try new dinos, play new things but it's really frustrating that no matter what I play it's always a Hatz that kills me.

Always.

[full current]

they’d either have to ban hatz or make hatz hell to grow on this mode

[hasty willow]

I think it would be better to just ban it. It's not a huge problem on other modes.

[wispy thunder]

what have u died on so far

[thick hemlock]

Try growing in forests

[cursive lion]

^^ if I fight a hatz I'll be in the trees unless it is on land

[thick hemlock]

There are very few dinos that you should be spending time in open areas before subadult

[hasty willow]

Berta (twice), Conca, Metri, Allo (Ado)

[cursive lion]

I've taken to killing apex on sight this mode

[thick hemlock]

Conca and metri can both easily outmaneuver Hatz at subadult. If you aren't subadult stay in forests

[hasty willow]

You weren't listening, huh? The forests don't really help much, they can just run into them. Plus, can't really control where they're gonna find me.

[wispy thunder]

my absolute favorite spot to grow a juvie on gondwa is dark woods. its a popular spot so you will see others, be careful, but it is so incredibly dense and easy to hide in. and now, since theres critters all over the place, you can do big brain 4d chess and trick people into thinking youre just a critter by walking instead of running anywhere. its always an easy time there

[hasty willow]

I like Dark Forest too, except when I keep getting jumpedscared by snakes.

[thick hemlock]

You CAN control where they find you. They aren't gonna find you in an open area if you don't go in any open areas lmao.

Hatz has slow acceleration and sprint turning so if you keep running between trees and stuff it can't catch you

[wispy thunder]

when ive heard people running around i just kept walking and not stopping/running away, hoping they think i am one of the many critters. never actaully ran into anyone

[hasty willow]

So, again, I have to stop myself from going into well over half the map because of one dino?

[thick hemlock]

This is the other thing, it baffles me how many people sprint everywhere while questing and then complain that they got killed.

[cursive lion]

When I was juvi stego heard a hatz flying, hid in a bush and waited until it left. He never saw me muahaha

[hasty willow]

I don't sprint everywhere. I walk to conserve stamina and to not make much noise.

[hasty willow]

Same, especially when I'm a baby. Or I'll hide in a bush.

[thick hemlock]

Not just one dino. If you're going into gp/sav/gv as something that isn't big or fast yet then youre gonna get killed by other stuff too. You've just been killed by Hatzes because they cover a lot of ground and find you sooner

[cursive lion]

Bushes are the goat as juvi

[full current]

tbh i do disagree forests don’t help
agree hatz is cracked and they need to do something disagree being in a forest doesn’t help

[thick hemlock]

its that easy

[wispy thunder]

hatz needs like, the choice to either spec into being really good at flying and bad at ground combat or really bad at flying and good at ground combat. not both

[hasty willow]

The problem is I haven't had as much of an issue escaping other things. Hatz can literally follow you and stay out of reach. I've literally had one follow me for several POIs. What should I do then? Just log out?

[pallid forge]

What's better for a Kent that want to survive: Bloodlust for more bleed or Fresh Blood for a damage buff if something bleeds near you?

[thick hemlock]

Let me be clear, I do think Hatz should have slower growth. And I'd be fine with it losing some health and/or damage output. But I don't think its as gamebreaking as some people are saying

[hasty willow]

I like Fresh Blood, personally.

[full current]

bloodlust sucks cheeks especially solo do not use it

i in general hard recommend against bloodlust unless you are full dedicating to being the bleeder of a group

[thick hemlock]

If you moved through multiple POIs without it losing track of you thats a skill issue

[stray falcon]

Based

[pallid forge]

Thanks for the feedback. Fresh Blood it is.

[hasty willow]

I think the biggest problem honestly, is Peck Barrage and Evil Eye. I don't think it should have both as that is the biggest issue with them. They do too much damage with that and take too little with Evil Eye.

[thick hemlock]

I'd support removing both

[hasty willow]

Is everything a skill issue to you? Can nothing just be unbalanced? Or can there never just be a situation where I'm just unable to escape from someone without it being a skill issue? It feels like you're trying to upset me, honestly.

[wispy thunder]

blessed sight

[hasty willow]

Real, I definitely think it needs to be nerfed or something. It's...really frustrating to play against.

[lyric flare]

To the stego who died just now in GP to the discord group RIP bro -stego who got away because of your death

[hasty willow]

I just wanna try new dinos. I don't like constantly being killed by Hatz because I can't fight back or run away or I just happen to not be in the right place at the right time.

Or I happen to be half stam or health because of the multiple critters everywhere.

[thick hemlock]

Sorry not trying to upset you, I just want to acknowledge that there are ways to avoid some of this stuff

[hasty willow]

It can still get Lakeweed Quests though lmao

[wispy thunder]

IC? yeah thats a hotspot. a hotspot for critters.

[hasty willow]

That's okay, I don't mean to sound whiney I'm just really frustrated. Everytime I get to Sub a Hatz always finds me somehow. I haven't been able to get an adult dino yet.

And the dinos I'm playing are new to me so maybe there's more I can do to fight against it but that doesn't change the fact that Hatz is a low risk, high reward dino in this gamemode due to how fast it can grow, how much damage it can deal, and the fact that is passively reduces incoming damage with Evil Eye. It's a menace in this mode but I don't think it would be fair to nerf it just because of this gamemode since that would make it really bad on officials.

It's not very fun to play against at all in this mode and I think it would be better to just be excluded from it as opposed to being nerfed.

I was all for this Permadeath mode, I thought it would be a lot of fun to have fights with higher stakes and I wouldn't be so frustrated against losing a fight to someone else, but it just feels like you can't really fight against a Hatz much at all, not reliably at least. The fights aren't very fun and feel one-sided most of the time and if I wanted that I would just go back to officials.

[thick hemlock]

I play with a clamp and preened feathers build and only kill juvis small enough to pick up. I am all for any changes that target people abusing Hatz's pvp capabilities. I just get defensive when people talk about removing it entirely

[fiery seal]

I just snuck up on a hatz...muahahah

[tribal ridge]

i hate u damn megs!

[hasty willow]

I understand. I'm just really frustrated with it because it's really strong. My problem is I'm not sure how they can nerf it for just this gamemode without making it extremely bad on officials. Unless they can ban abilities seperately? Because it's really only Peck Barrage and Evil Eye that are the issue. It wouldn't be as much of a problem if it only had Evil Eye, but that combined with Peck Barrage is...oppresive.

[full current]

Even w peck hatz is good tbh

[hasty willow]

True, but at least with just peck it isn't as oppressive as Peck Barrage.

Peck and that Piercing one is fine, but honestly Peck Barrage and Evil eye combo is just...too much.

[wispy thunder]

woooooo full swim meg accomplished

[full current]

Peck has solid damage, and regens stam. Peck hatz can do more damage depending on the situation (better vs smalls that hit and run) + it regens stam which makes it way harder to run a hatz out of stam

[tribal ridge]

😭

[full current]

doesn’t matter if the hatz has wasted its stam if it can hit you twice and fly away…

[wispy thunder]

BUDDY

[full current]

LMAO

[wispy thunder]

as an eo main
all that was playing in my head was "why. why. why. why"

[tribal ridge]

how could this happen to me!?

[hasty willow]

True, I'm just trying to find a middle ground. All of my deaths have been against Hatz with Peck Barrage and Evil Eye. Peck Barrage ramps up in damage with every hit and Peck does not so I think that would still be more balanced, and a better happy medium.

[full current]

eo main

disgusting

[tribal ridge]

eo main = BASED

[wispy thunder]

i play dinos that are cool. eo is cool

[full current]

honestly if they make this a serious mode going forward i would be down for them outright tweaking stats

[tribal ridge]

TELL THEM GIGI

[hasty willow]

Then at least more stuff could fight against it instead of just being Peck Barraged to death.

[full current]

make hatz play differently on this than officials

do it w stuff like achillo too

[tribal ridge]

that makes sense for sure

[full current]

hatz achillo lamb rhamph deinon

[hasty willow]

That would be an amazing change.

[full current]

like hard to say how far they’ll take this but honestly i’d love a version balanced around permadeath solo play

[hasty willow]

I would too

[wispy thunder]

tho tbh the alberta tlc has made it more appealing because eo is so slooooooow to travel with its began to drive me crazy

i would like if every single dino got its trot speed raised by like 10%

[hasty willow]

Pycno moving fast af with that trot speed boost

[full current]

Did joining solo mode require content patch update for anyone

[tribal ridge]

ya me

[dark fox]

The fact that this dropped right after the POI quest update really did not help matters. It's stupidly easy to amass growth and marks at mach speed by just flying over the whole map

All in all though, I REALLY hope Hatze doesn't get overall nerfed because of this game mode. If adjustments are made specifically for solo that's fine, just don't screw it over for all other modes just because of it being oppressive in the one setting

[tribal ridge]

i doubt they would ever nerf hatz for the whole game at least , i can see them making tweaks to certain dinosaus for different modes like @full current mentioned

[gleaming crater]

It's sad I've only fought groups of players so far

I feel solo might need a type of moderation or reporting system cuz it's only groups

[wispy thunder]

I’ve only fought other solos so far myself

[stuck tree]

hatz doesn't need a nerf it just needs to be disabled on this specific mode

[hasty willow]

Exactly. I don't normally have a problem like this with Hatz, it feels like it's just this gamemode and I don't want it to get nuked like that just because it feels oppressive in this gamemode only.

[stuck tree]

tbh i think all apexes ought to be, people seem to be at their worst when they can get to eo or rex

hatz may as well be an apex on this mode so yeet it too

[dark fox]

It's an apex in all but name really. At the very least, the apex of the flyers

Lest we forget that, unless a larger sauropod is added somewhere down the line, it will remain the tallest playable on the official roster

[marsh sequoia]

Dang hatz is taller than rex?! Somehow I didn't realize that lol

[wispy thunder]

silesaurus constantly jumpscaring my juvies

i keep thinking its a deinon

[mild anchor]

Pachy charge cant get knockback canceled?

[buoyant cloak]

the devious eosaurus

[tribal ridge]

ill be back 😡

staying out of sight til i hit sub adult lol

[crude phoenix]

To the three pachys that saved me from the two ceras and the dasp in Savannah Thanks. That was so fun.

-solo meg

[wispy thunder]

meanwhile im just growing again bc i got bored the second i hit adult

[mild anchor]

How did the meg know where the cera corpse was?

[thick hemlock]

Moderation in never gonna happen, alderon doesn't have the resources for that. That said, I have 5-10 hours in solo mode and have yet to see a group, so maybe its the locations you're going to?

[mild anchor]

Were you the meg that attacked the ceras first?

[gleaming crater]

I've seen a group of 4+ in salt flat a group of 2 or 3 in gh 2 in dw 3 in triad 2 bf in about 3 hours or so

[fossil hound]

People were talking about certain dinos having different stats or restricted abilities depending on the mode and tbh i would hate that

I love the koth mode for practice and limit testing purposes. If a dino of a given species there has different stats than its siblings in other modes then your familiarity would be less than pointless

The inverse would apply to this permadeath mode because fights happen less often than regular officials

I think the problem with hatz is that nothing can really contest it besides another hatz. I look forward to the thal TLC

[tribal ridge]

we own thals - HATZ

[molten gull]

these bagaceratops are out for my blood

[wispy thunder]

trying to take a shortcut as sarco be like

[molten gull]

that is an unfortunate situation

[wispy thunder]

its fine i just have to rest after every fall because i break my bones 😇

[molten gull]

LOL

i feel like these ai r gonna be the least of my concerns.. ion think im gonna survive

[fossil hound]

I had to do that halfway down a cliff on my ado amarg. It put me to like 15% health on the last drop i was like 😬

[molten gull]

skydiver dasp 😊

[pallid forge]

Regarding Hatz: My only problem with them is that they can effortless clamp a full grown Pachy and drop it from a insane height. That's bs

[wispy thunder]

im very used to it since ive mostly played apexes and pseudo-apexes hahaha
im a true apex hiker

[molten gull]

and they can just keep trying with like zero reprocussions right

unless theres a group of pachys

[wispy thunder]

aint no way am i gonna go the proper path i have to climb down the cliff. or figure out a way up it

[fossil hound]

Oh yeah the fact that they can use whatever beak attacks they want and just lay down real quick on some tree to swap to clamp in this mode certainly doesnt help...

[molten gull]

the community server experience

[tribal ridge]

you're crazy lol

[wispy thunder]

i made it!!!

that little s shape is so annoying to go north through

[molten gull]

if theres one thing im liking its the .8 stamina drain on lamb now

how long has this mode been ingame for? like a few days?? or

[wispy thunder]

since the 17th

[molten gull]

neat

[tribal ridge]

feat

[full current]

Think my biggest barrier to playing this mode is just the fact that regrowing atm is boring'

If growth was more fun I'd play a lot tho i think

[molten gull]

theres this very specific build ive been using on lamb (which i affectionately dub the wendys lamb) on a semirealism server so im trying it here

it is an offshoot of the burger king lamb

if u know u know

[tribal ridge]

1 bar into sub adult , all of sudden im walking around the map like i own it now.

[cold cypress]

So, you can't make a group with that game mode?

[tribal ridge]

really bud

[molten gull]

yah no groups in this or the normal solo test

[cold cypress]

They should remove ws then

[tribal ridge]

they did lol

[molten gull]

haha... im not doing that

[cold cypress]

Yay

[molten gull]

bug.

THATS ACTUALLY SO COOL they have their own special meatchunk model

[pallid forge]

Is it boring? I mean doing the usual quests for marks, is a little boring but the growing itself is pretty thrilling as baby. You travel the map for that sweet discovery exp and are constantly on the edge looking out for predators + the critter horror show.

[full current]

The dangerous critters was thrilling for five minutes but theyre fairly easy to avoid, and it's fairly easy to avoid poeple outside of the most open areas

[molten gull]

whats the biggest group of critters uve seen so far

if any

[full current]

4 scorpions

[pallid forge]

3 of those lizards that run on two legs and attack every smaller dino

[molten gull]

imagine a group of like.. 4 of those giant tortoise and ur an ano

war.

[pallid forge]

Potatoes are unbreakable

[molten gull]

wonder which ai r unkillable though.. that aggro turtle HAS to be one

[split copper]

Rare instance of someone actually using their sense of survival and self preservation lol

[molten gull]

innocent baby dasp in the middle of gp looking for free trophies:

[split copper]

“Why do I keep dying?! This game is impossible and people are so mean”

[molten gull]

i just dont understand why people go into hotspots at all in any survival game as a baby

[pallid forge]

Because default PoT servers have teached them that enough carebear players will gift them trophies

[tribal ridge]

Are critters more agressive in perma ?

[pallid forge]

More agressive? Doubt that but they got seriously buffed. The big tortoise that hunts everyone is nightmare fuel with its speed boost

[molten gull]

dastardly creature. i heard u...

[tribal ridge]

A little scorpion was attacking my eo I was shocked

[molten gull]

it WHAT

remind me to never go to brokentooth

also the trees moving in the wind r so rad

[radiant yarrow]

They move!

[molten gull]

gasp

[molten gull]

big orbital laserbeam in the sky

[oak cloak]

Thats no moon

[molten gull]

so far so good