codm-discussion-💫

[steady prism]

so if u fail to diffuse it u loose

[drifting osprey]

You need to get on the point to actually win

[willow wave]

No because if you killed all enemies, the BOMB IS STILL TICKING ANNNNND IF U DONT MAKE IT U LOSE

[vivid token]

Fr

[steady prism]

literally its a liability that bomb has been nerfed

[drifting osprey]

And why not kill before the bomb is planted

Are you dumb

[hearty dove]

Yeah but you don't need to, it can be a draw if you leave it

[willow wave]

Like I said, its how people play the game

[steady prism]

u don't even have braincells

[drifting osprey]

Yeah and I barely see any round wins by bomb planting

Both comp/rank

[hearty dove]

Real

[steady prism]

that's why it's an objectve gametype not team deathmatch

[willow wave]

Like I said if u aint reading carefully, ITS how THE people PLAY the game

[drifting osprey]

People play by kills

[steady prism]

without that bomb it will be search and camp

i always hate that last 2 guys camping whole game

[hearty dove]

Most people play by kills but everyone gets killed by the time the bomb explodes

[steady prism]

bomb bring them out

[drifting osprey]

Then kill before bomb is planted?

[hearty dove]

Like I plant the bomb alot and my teammates just slay them all.

[hearty dove]

You don't get my point do you

[steady prism]

people play to win

[willow wave]

he/she doesnt

[drifting osprey]

They play to win

[hearty dove]

Dense

[drifting osprey]

Therefore they kill as much as they can

[steady prism]

nah a lot of games i lost with 15 kills or more just bc i'm playing to kills

[drifting osprey]

Without dying

[charred abyss]

Who wanna do rank CODM with me

[drifting osprey]

15 kills is low

[steady prism]

objective player>>>>

[quartz swift]

hi

[drifting osprey]

For a flex

[charred abyss]

You Butt

[steady prism]

not a pro like u just had nuked in snd rank 2 times

[quartz swift]

Just killing SnD enemy team is a really terrible idea i'll say

If you want some upper hand advantage

[steady prism]

sry man i've changed

[quartz swift]

The bomb

[hearty dove]

I almost lost a 47 kill game because my teammates don't know how to hold a point

Lol

[charred abyss]

I be dropping 75 kills

[steady prism]

snd bro yeah in point i use c4

too easy to kill

[hearty dove]

Oh snd?

[charred abyss]

Or more usually

[steady prism]

domination hardpoint

just use c4

[hearty dove]

I dropped like 19/20 kills once

[steady prism]

too easy

[hearty dove]

In top 5k lobby a year ago

[steady prism]

damnn

[drifting osprey]

HP:you need to get in the point to win
Snd:you don’t need to plant the bomb(which is considered OBJ by yall)to win

[quartz swift]

Nice comparison

[steady prism]

5 k lobby with 5k rank bots

[drifting osprey]

Bomb is NOT the OBJ of snd

[hearty dove]

It's weird bc back then top 5k used to be good

[quartz swift]

So, SnD IS all about the bomb
Getting kills is the side part

[hearty dove]

But I always get top 5ks on my team nowadays and they usually bottom frag

[quartz swift]

Otherwise
You're not searching, or destroying at all

[drifting osprey]

Snd about kills bomb=side part

[knotty parcel]

No way that just works lol @outer wind

[willow wave]

omg, thankyou

[wicked stirrup]

imagine playing snd tho

[outer wind]

Insert lebron james thats too easy

[wicked stirrup]

scratch that, imagine playing codm tho

[steady prism]

i was not even alive back then used to play coc

[rigid rapids]

Anyone know how to find t2 scrims ? Like s ranks

[drifting osprey]

Your playing it

[dreamy turret]

Why is the codm tournament over already?

[knotty parcel]

Me, an snd main:

[drifting osprey]

Scrim universe

[quartz swift]

Getting kills is not optimal and sometimes puts you at disadvantage

[outer wind]

Saved us alot 💀

[quartz swift]

Because people tend to guard the bomb site

[rigid rapids]

Is there a server ?

[knotty parcel]

Wanna ball one more?

[hearty dove]

My coc base is maxed latest upd

[drifting osprey]

Yea

[knotty parcel]

I can play for one more

[rigid rapids]

Can u send it to me ?

[dreamy turret]

Why is the codm tournament over already?

[outer wind]

Sure

[rigid rapids]

Would appreciate it

[wicked stirrup]

only because im required to

[hearty dove]

I quit tho few weeks ago

[drifting osprey]

Dms?

[rigid rapids]

Yessir

[knotty parcel]

Nah its just closed for a moment

[outer wind]

Les Ballhala

[willow wave]

Exactly our point

[dreamy turret]

So it’s gonna open later?

[steady prism]

i'm thankful that u guys choose to stick to that gamemode ,,,literally play hp wait 20 mins for people but play snd instant matches

[knotty parcel]

Yes

[dreamy turret]

😮‍💨 good

[steady prism]

i lack walls and hero abilities

[rigid rapids]

Lmk when u send it @drifting osprey

[knotty parcel]

I want to play hp but damn the people in hp pisses me off

[dreamy turret]

Spending 400 cp and then not getting anything is mad

[steady prism]

100 walls

[hearty dove]

Honestly snd takes so long to get a game but for respawns I get a game instantly

[steady prism]

man owar with 3 x

[hearty dove]

400 is nothing

[knotty parcel]

I just wanna hold point while my teammates cant even get a kill without dying 5 more times

[outer wind]

@knotty parcel its ballin rn

[dire relic]

If I didn't fall asleep I would've had Diamond camo for Bp50 😭😭😭😭

[steady prism]

ngl asia server snd games are instant

[hearty dove]

Real..

[knotty parcel]

Yeeee

[clear patio]

As a f2p, it is something

[drifting osprey]

Then kill the people inside bomb site?

/kill all before they plant

[knotty parcel]

Thats what pisses me off

[hearty dove]

Yeah but yall expect to get something with like 400

[clear patio]

Bp

[knotty parcel]

If they cant get a kill I would rather want them to stay on a room and hold a freaking angle

[hearty dove]

Like that is like 1/25 of what you gotta spend to get something decent

[steady prism]

but snd becomes boring after 10 games

[hearty dove]

Yeah but the guy said he spent 400 and got nothing good

[quartz swift]

Do you just ignore how much disadvantage a team is if they go against a planted bomb

[outer wind]

They need to buff that kinetic station activation distance up to 50m

[steady prism]

and other modes are sheaat

[steady prism]

yeah

[quartz swift]

Apparently it's just worse medic

[steady prism]

so weak

[quartz swift]

I don't play br

[steady prism]

i do

[tired flame]

I play it but I use spotter

[drifting osprey]

Then kill all before planted?

[steady prism]

but it's laggy after the update

a lot laggy

[quartz swift]

The apex legends warzone hybird that brings worst of both games and doesn't improve on that

[hearty dove]

Yeah other seasons were fine but this season my game keeps freezing for like 5 seconds at a time

[devout moat]

Should I put aim assist laser on BP50?Does it need the BSA?

[hearty dove]

And it's weird because my phone isn't even overheating

[drifting osprey]

If your playing HP yes

[steady prism]

enemy comes at me at super speed

[devout moat]

Thanks

[hearty dove]

Fr

[steady prism]

i have to preditct their position

[quartz swift]

It has an effective range of 80m

[steady prism]

if not i die

[hearty dove]

That's so real

[steady prism]

and ssniper scope is lag reason to

too

[hearty dove]

That's why I don't snipe these days even having 2 dlq legendaries

[devout moat]

so I shouldn't?

[steady prism]

fix- use a cutstom sight

[steady prism]

[hearty dove]

The holidays dlq makes it a little better but still sheet

[quartz swift]

Not stopping you
But you'll put the gun at so much disadvantage

[clear patio]

Bp50 is like a third option if you don't like the hvk or drh

[drifting osprey]

It has bsa of a SMG without laser

[quartz swift]

Direct upgrade to HVK

[drifting osprey]

😭

[quartz swift]

Makes HVK look balanced

[steady prism]

4th u forgot ak47

[devout moat]

Thanks,but is it really hurting me if I do put the laser?is the benefit that little?or like it's still sort of useful.

[drifting osprey]

Why not type19

[clear patio]

Bp50 is better than those

[hearty dove]

I'm gonna be fr ak47 with the 40 rnd conversion mag is actually decent

[drifting osprey]

~160ms ttk w 1 headshot first range

[hearty dove]

It's like a direct upgrade to the m4 and other 4 shot guns

[devout moat]

So,I should?I'm getting 2 answers here.

[quartz swift]

The benefit of the laser makes the gun have denser BSA than passive ars and some lmgs

[steady prism]

yeah but base one better bc of 3 shot meta

[devout moat]

Thanks.

[steady prism]

i use both

other one is more like an smg

[opaque dome]

i think bp50 is broken

[clear patio]

I have a skill issue because I need a red dot to be accurate with the drh

[hearty dove]

Conversion is really fun though

[drifting osprey]

Yes if your playing HP,switch to fmj for snd

[steady prism]

i'm waiting for strongbox skins

[opaque dome]

hi

[steady prism]

ak47 is my fav ar

got pumkin head

and use it often so

yeah

[hearty dove]

Yeah I might not be able to get the stronbox ak though stopped spending on codm months ago

[devout moat]

Okay.thank you.

[steady prism]

aah no coupons?

[clear patio]

For a f2p, there's only two ways to get cod points and they are events and tournament

[hearty dove]

And I only have like 80/100 required for guaranteed

[quartz swift]

That 40 5.45 round mag makes it into amax
With better accuracy and worse damage

[hearty dove]

It is

[steady prism]

i saved last year i got 80 coupons

[steady prism]

21 dmg same as ak117

[drifting osprey]

Just get top 32 in stage 2

[hearty dove]

Amax with all mobility attachments is still easily controllable.

It's fun running and gunning with it

[steady prism]

a max is good

[hearty dove]

Yeah amax always been decent

[steady prism]

but ak with 3 shot meta

that sheat is riya;

[opaque dome]

wht alcatraz ended so fast

[steady prism]

i didn't knew it can do that too

[hearty dove]

It's good unless you're trash at cod mobile

[steady prism]

i thought only hvk and drh are like that

[clear patio]

It will be back in a few hours

[hearty dove]

If you can't aim then yeah it's not that great

[steady prism]

a max is riyal good bro

[opaque dome]

why it ended so fast though

[steady prism]

in br and in mp

that gun is as good as ak47

[clear patio]

The time of the tournament being open

[hearty dove]

It just is

[opaque dome]

it should last 3 days

[hearty dove]

Base gun is good though too

[steady prism]

just use sks

[hearty dove]

I own an sks legendary and still prefer running val or amax

They just hit different

[steady prism]

a max is also s tier

[clear patio]

A pretty versatile weapon if you ask me

[drifting osprey]

When is invisible man bug getting fixed

[hearty dove]

M67 is good but if you're into automatics it's also really good

[steady prism]

i always set my gyro senitiivity to max while using it

[quartz swift]

Agreed
Rendering issues are crazy

[hearty dove]

Because with running mobility attachments you're not really

Tanking your accuracy that much

[willow wave]

is it me or does the scope-in for snipers feel weird this update...?

[knotty parcel]

Damn my fault slime @outer wind

I lost focus

[hearty dove]

If you're blind then yeah

[opaque dome]

what do you mean

[quartz swift]

Amax only needs a 45 round mag

[steady prism]

it's laggy plus sync is off

[outer wind]

Nah I got distracted

[hearty dove]

I mean you couldn't tell that the accuracy is good

[opaque dome]

which ar has the best bsa?

[knotty parcel]

Lost focus almost got the duo tho damn

[outer wind]

Dang they was lucky wit da nade

[hearty dove]

Don't need a speed buff just run short barrel and gatekeeper stock

[quartz swift]

Man o war

And technically agr 556p

[reef pebble]

Whats better for aiming? Index or thumb or prefference?

[knotty parcel]

Tried to nade them also should have went with my gun lol

[opaque dome]

really?

[willow wave]

it feels very off, bc If I remember correctly, both character and sniper moves as one when we scope in, now its justthe gun alone going up to the face and the zoom is alot more zoomed in (my feel soz if doesnt make sens ;-;)

[outer wind]

Real

[steady prism]

i'm done with defending good weapon if u think it's c then never use it (keep lacking)

[quartz swift]

Really
Base bsa is quite dense

[drifting osprey]

Ak47

[knotty parcel]

Depends on your preference I do thumbs for aim but others are built different

[drifting osprey]

Wit grip barrel

[steady prism]

scope moves 1 tick faster than aim

[reef pebble]

Alr

[knotty parcel]

Damn im gonna ball next time we play

Lemme charge this rn tho

[hearty dove]

Just noticed you have a sharingan in your name bro💀

[opaque dome]

good

[hearty dove]

How the heck is that possible

[versed flint]

@atomic bronze hbr vs amax

[willow wave]

what does realistic scope do again??? ._.

[drifting osprey]

Make your scope worse

[willow wave]

oof

[hearty dove]

You can see through the scope while scope in animation is happening

[knotty parcel]

Yes its from indra son of the sage of six paths which is inspired from a indian god if I didnt forgot it

[steady prism]

[willow wave]

wait, isnt that good?

[drifting osprey]

Btw BP50 has insane range

[hearty dove]

But with it turned off, the scope won't show anything

[outer wind]

Aight, we ball later night 🤝

[hearty dove]

Until it's fully scoped in

[steady prism]

@atomic bronze i swear if u take his side

[hearty dove]

I prefer it off

[steady prism]

[hearty dove]

Yep

[willow wave]

i see, very well, ty

[knotty parcel]

If jokes is open I go with res op cause its better with more players for it lol

[steady prism]

saw him lectured someone last time that a max is best

[hearty dove]

Amax is best

[outer wind]

Heck yeah

[hazy belfry]

How would you rank it among the smg

[knotty parcel]

Hbr vs amax?

[drifting osprey]

It’s an AR

💀

[hazy belfry]

Oh

[steady prism]

i swear if he take his side he's either a crack head or a two timer

[hazy belfry]

In wz it’s not

[knotty parcel]

With a smg quality

[hazy belfry]

Weird

[versed flint]

Hbr vs pk

[outer wind]

Oi theres only one crackhead here

[steady prism]

hbr

[versed flint]

Cap

[steady prism]

[hearty dove]

Pk way better

[knotty parcel]

Pk what?

[hearty dove]

Pkm

[outer wind]

Peace keeper

[knotty parcel]

Oh pkm is better why yall comparing that gun

[versed flint]

@sacred snow pk > hbr

[steady prism]

hbr is good weapon a less on stat but good

[knotty parcel]

If you use it alot yea

[weak dagger]

Outlaw is the best

[crystal anvil]

Helloo 🫡I'm looking for a duo ??

[hearty dove]

Literally

[steady prism]

lmg vs assualt i'm done

[drifting osprey]

1.t19
2.Bp50
3.drh
4.Oden
5HVK

[hazy belfry]

Hvk or bizon

[hearty dove]

Just uninstall the model for it and its basically a dlq upgrade

[knotty parcel]

You can try #lfg-multiplayer or #lfg-battle-royale

[hearty dove]

Bizon for accuracy

[steady prism]

bizon for this season hvk for last

[crystal anvil]

@knotty parcel Thx

[drifting osprey]

Only if you can hit every headshots

[knotty parcel]

Hvk much more useful cause strafe speed plus a bit better ttk

[steady prism]

[hazy belfry]

I played w both and I feel like the bizon is better but idk

[hearty dove]

I'm getting bizon to diamond atm

And hg40💀

[hazy belfry]

Maybe my hvk build is trash

[steady prism]

hidden meta

[knotty parcel]

Use high caliber mag for it

[hazy belfry]

Been playing the bizon since 2023

[drifting osprey]

Then what

[hazy belfry]

I do already

[steady prism]

i sometimes forgot mono

[drifting osprey]

It’s 3 shot is even less consistent

[hearty dove]

In that case hg40 is better than it

[knotty parcel]

Hmmmm

[hazy belfry]

I can’t use media

[steady prism]

ik it has no recoilll

[knotty parcel]

Ads bsa build?

[hazy belfry]

I would’ve showed my build

[hazy belfry]

Idk copied it on someone from a French server

[hearty dove]

Only downside about hg40 is just no 2 shot headshot

[steady prism]

high caliber ammo , mono

[knotty parcel]

You can type it out tho if you dont feel lazy typing it (welp same too lazy to do that rn)

[steady prism]

u might be missing one of them

happens if it's not unlocked

[hazy belfry]

Yeah ima do that

[plush zealot]

what

[knotty parcel]

Yea maining on that one rn, still viable but there are better picks than it tbh

[hearty dove]

But it's fun that's what matters

[plush zealot]

Bizon have slower TTK to upper chest to HVK

[steady prism]

i din't trust that lapa build sugges me a good one pls

[hearty dove]

Even better if you have a legendary for it like I do

[knotty parcel]

Hmmmm lemme check the build they gave from me hold on

[hearty dove]

However prefer default ironsight

[steady prism]

which?

[steady prism]

using them to have less lag

[hearty dove]

The ghoul bound. I'd rather have the gold standard though

[hearty dove]

Nah they're just cleaner

Easier to aim with

[steady prism]

less laggy too

[hearty dove]

I guess so

[steady prism]

[hazy belfry]

My current build hvk :
Monolithic suppressor
MIP light
YKM combat stock
Large caliber ammo
OWC laser tactical

[hearty dove]

[steady prism]

it's good

use toughness and ur good to go

[hazy belfry]

Idk when I play I don’t feel like it is

[drifting osprey]

3 shot isn’t consistent,mobility is mid,ammo is only 28

[hearty dove]

Amped is better

[steady prism]

do u feel like more flinch

[knotty parcel]

Ranger barrel
Light stock
Firm grip
Extended mag
Agenfy suppressor
Took me a while to search this bad boy

[steady prism]

i feel like flinch is problem there

[hearty dove]

It really isnt

[knotty parcel]

Yea tried this and its a great build

[steady prism]

u can handle it doesn't mean we're built same

[hearty dove]

Amped is going to help so much more

[steady prism]

[knotty parcel]

Wait why yall using amped or toughness with hvk?

[steady prism]

amped is i mean i use it on lmg

[drifting osprey]

I use gung-ho

[hazy belfry]

It feels like it takes more bullets to kill than w the bizon

[hearty dove]

It's not that. It's just in terms of how much it'll help..

[steady prism]

but idk if assualt need it

[knotty parcel]

If you go with stim or hip fire a lot yea

[hearty dove]

If you're using an lmg, use toughness but on faster guns use amped

[knotty parcel]

But amped on a hvk?

[steady prism]

bro ur aim is problem this build is perfect u probably aim head eith bison bc u had used it more

[hearty dove]

Yea gung ho on ksp 45 is good. Amped on something like a grau or drh.

But something like toughness has specific use cases

[knotty parcel]

Thats real weird to use on an ar with amped

[steady prism]

ngl i feel like quick fix will be better switch speed is decent

[hearty dove]

I'd never run toughness on an smg or ar

[knotty parcel]

Much better to go with quick fix or toughness if you want to add another hit flinch

[hazy belfry]

My aim is good I even had to do the 50 headshot and it went pretty fast

[drifting osprey]

I use gungho on everything

Except snipers

[hearty dove]

Quick fix is only good if you have something fast like a fennec or cx9

[knotty parcel]

Damn you really love to do hip fires and stims huh

[hearty dove]

Quick fix is decent on the ksp 45 though I won't lie

[drifting osprey]

I don’t even do hipfire or have stims

[hearty dove]

Gotta try it man it's addicting

[drifting osprey]

I mean I barely do it

[knotty parcel]

Quick fix is a go to green perk if you are lost on what to choose

[steady prism]

with bizon u move towards head faster bc more mobility hvk is new to u just use it more it's same as bizon

[drifting osprey]

I use gungho for more flexible movement

[hearty dove]

Just gotta run that one ksp or chicom setup with insane hipfire

[hazy belfry]

Alr I’ll try

[hearty dove]

If you're not good at the game

[knotty parcel]

Gives you regen if you killed an enemy can be a good counter for man o war sometimes

[hazy belfry]

I think my pb w the hvk is the recoil

[knotty parcel]

But yea dauntless is a good counter for it

[hearty dove]

If you're actually a decent player then ksp Is go-to

[steady prism]

really

[knotty parcel]

So aggro

Yea good pick

[steady prism]

i'm out @knotty parcel thanks for loadout

[hearty dove]

It's harder to use for newer players but once in the right hands, it's insane

[hazy belfry]

I use this perk w my bizon cause of stacked enemies

[drifting osprey]

Yeah

[hazy belfry]

Very useful

[hearty dove]

Because if you're worse, it'll be worse

[knotty parcel]

Nah dont thank me with that its from gri

[hearty dove]

Now the chicom update is here, yes, it is a downgrade. Not by much tho

[knotty parcel]

Its a good perk if you dont want to go full on aggro like @drifting osprey

[hearty dove]

Chicom is noob friendly so anyone can use it.

But with the ksp it actually requires skill.

[knotty parcel]

But if you are that confident enough for your aggro plays then gung ho is great for it

[hearty dove]

1.3x torso

[hazy belfry]

What’s aggro

[knotty parcel]

Aggressive

[hearty dove]

Ksp was s tier bro

[hazy belfry]

Oooh okay

[knotty parcel]

Basically f the etiquettes go guns blazing

[hearty dove]

Every way, insane strafe speed, one burst,

Damage is just crazy ima be fr

[steady prism]

i'll thank him once i try it out

[knotty parcel]

If yall want a much versatile gun you can go with kn44

[hearty dove]

Plus it has decent range

[hearty dove]

Kn is basically a hvk but better ranged accuracy

It drops, but it's decent for how fast the ttk is

And it's really accurate. One of the most accurate guns in the game

[knotty parcel]

Nah hvk is a bit better choice than kn for flex but for a bit more passive kn is a go to for that

[hearty dove]

For sure

It just is

[obtuse jewel]

Bruh desync is getting worse by the day. Now I'm running while stationary for an entire second on enemy POV

[hearty dove]

It's way above average

[plush zealot]

HVK is a better option for TTK (Time To Kill). The benefit is giving more kills and survive longer. Especially if you know what you're doing.

If you want something easy to use, go with Bizon. More mag cap (good for prefiring), less recoil, and good mobility, but lacks TTK. You will find some difficulty in some combat due to slower TTK.

[knotty parcel]

Its a spectator prob, its still not fixed

[plush zealot]

I'm tire of people giving false info

[obtuse jewel]

It's there every single match

[hearty dove]

I thought like you too, once. But my #2 global ksp friend showed me that it's actually secret meta

It's godly, just need to know how to use it

It's a flanking gun

[knotty parcel]

Desync yea but the one you’re describing was about the spectator which is really buggy idk why they still haven’t found a way to fix it

[hearty dove]

It kills fast and moves fast, that's all it needs anyways

[hazy belfry]

The problem is the lack of bullets in the hvk I always run out of ammo

[hearty dove]

Unfortunately you've been wrong this whole time

[knotty parcel]

You gotta have a good ammo management for it kinda like burst cx9

[plush zealot]

I suggest practicing on passive playstyle and timing. It'll solve the problem.

[hearty dove]

Real but for respawns burst cx9 is so annoying. In snd it's actually good because you won't require that much ammo in one life

[knotty parcel]

If you have bad ammo management (like me) you can go with a bit bigger ammo capacity like ak, kn and a lot more

[hearty dove]

It's just the reserve ammo you gotta worry about because the reload speed is so fast especially with sleight of hand

[outer vessel]

who want my acc bs

[old imp]

trust me if hes #2 global he has to think its good

[obtuse jewel]

I can't even hear multiple shots go off. I die in a single shot to drh, mg42 and a lot of other fast fire weapons.
There's no hit direction. I just die without even seeing the enemy or knowing where the shots came from. It's like dying to sniper except the sound is slightly different.

[plush zealot]

TTK is umcompetable. Practice is the key.

[old imp]

what is bros ping

[hearty dove]

He thinks its good, because it is good

[knotty parcel]

Thats why they suggest carrying with vulture if you go hp/domi or tdm

[obtuse jewel]

It's 40-50

[hearty dove]

Yeah

[old imp]

so if #1 m4 global thought it was good dors that mean it is good

self harm final boss

[plush zealot]

Striker is underrated

[hearty dove]

No1 m4 plays battle royale

If course it's good in br

[plush zealot]

Striker 45

[old imp]

Where it is also pretty bad by the way

[knotty parcel]

I aint got time for practicing that I just mag dump

[hearty dove]

Tell me why a br player had 20k points on it then

[plush zealot]

yeah, i notice people avoid cuz' of the recoil. Same with other guns too.

recoil is a bit weird to some

[old imp]

Cult, insanity, proving a point, outdated opinions, cuz they want to, etc

[hazy belfry]

Im more an aggressive player so idk

[hearty dove]

Not the full truth

[knotty parcel]

I hate the hollow points of it even without the mag it still feels bad

[hearty dove]

They use it because it's good.

[hazy belfry]

I’ll try that

[hearty dove]

It's just easy to use

Alot of people run m4s in br

[plush zealot]

dont use the burst worst mistake

[hearty dove]

I don't know why, but it isn't terrible.

[old imp]

pros literally used nerfed type 25 for 8 months after large cal hvk got the buff that made it meta

[hearty dove]

Yep

I used to. Had lb for it

[old imp]

People use weapons not because it is good but mostly because it is comfortable or they like the skin or for any other reason

[knotty parcel]

I hate it on why they think its a good idea to make it 2 bullet per taps

[hearty dove]

Yeah but makes up for it in accuracy

[hearty dove]

I just use anything that gets me wins

[plush zealot]

then neither of them would be suitable tbh. You can try Type19

[hearty dove]

That includes the ksp

[old imp]

its bsa is worse than grau in mp, i wouldn't imagine it is any better in br

[knotty parcel]

Yea its a good thing to practice if you go aggro

[hearty dove]

Yeah I don't really know I haven't used it in months

[old imp]

outdated opinions:

[hearty dove]

Ppsh is a really good pick I was like #50 on that lb

Goes crazy in objs

[old imp]

ppsh is decent 🙏

[hearty dove]

The ammo capacity is really handy

[knotty parcel]

Meh, there’s a bit better option but its decent

[old imp]

but rn bp50 replaces basically everything if ur ammo management is good

[hearty dove]

And putting on the short mag for snd makes it really mobile

[old imp]

5 shot at 80m

[knotty parcel]

They just broke it thanks to the shadow buff

[old imp]

wyf do u mean shadow buff

[hearty dove]

[old imp]

Shadow buff to bp50?

[knotty parcel]

Now people can go crazy with that gun

[hearty dove]

When something gets buffed and they don't post it

[old imp]

To bp50 and not like anything else in the game??

nice one

[knotty parcel]

Yea, they shadow buffed it according to path’s server

[old imp]

M13 0m ttk is the same as bp50 80m ttk

[knotty parcel]

Hold on lemme put that pic to the #codm-media

[old imp]

what did they do

[hearty dove]

That's insanity

[hazy belfry]

Noted, and I wanna try the bp50 too

[old imp]

m13 and kilo 141 were my favourite weapons and they became completely obsolete in 4 updates

[hearty dove]

Kilo is still good with right setup

Even without mythic

[old imp]

Ik i am using that setup

[hearty dove]

I have a setup with minimal downsides

[old imp]

Keep folding to type 19 because 30ms ttk advantage hehehea

[knotty parcel]

Type 19 got nerfed right?

Haven’t touched that gun for a while

[old imp]

only strafe, which it was already better than basically every 4 shot ar in the game

So now its only mildly better

[plush zealot]

oh yeah BP50 is on the top rn. You should def try as well

[hearty dove]

I think the best way to build assault rifles is to just find the setup with the least downsides

[plush zealot]

i almost forgot about that

[hearty dove]

And still have upgrades

[plush zealot]

its like Fennec as AR lol

[knotty parcel]

Basically they made it broken

[old imp]

Yo at least they nerfed the 30r mag

[old imp]

Wym? Just gunsmith stuff stats based

[hearty dove]

Yea

[old imp]

No point stacking +100% range or +50% bsa on something like icr

[hearty dove]

Stat wise

[hearty dove]

Yeah

[sacred snow]

only strafe nerf

no difference

[hearty dove]

Just need to find something that's comfortable at any range to use whether mobility or accuracy

[old imp]

yo wait whyd they give MASSIVE bp50 buff

[knotty parcel]

Eh still fine huh

[old imp]

This game is trashhahahaha

[sacred snow]

because mythic

[knotty parcel]

I just stay at covers with that gun

[knotty parcel]

Tru

[sacred snow]

now its noob friendly cuz 60r is good

[old imp]

I am looking at another 0.7 kd decrease after the great mg42 plague

[old imp]

hahahahahaha

[sacred snow]

shldve kept 30r as is

[hearty dove]

I regret buying grau mythic because after a few weeks they made it terrible

[sacred snow]

grau mythic was just ugly asf

[old imp]

rude

grau mythic was cool

[hearty dove]

With diamond it looks nice

[sacred snow]

nah

[knotty parcel]

It look cool tho 🥲

[hearty dove]

New tournament camo really fits the grau mythic ima be honest

[old imp]

Grau itself is only good when garena hivemind uses it with red dot

[hazy belfry]

Where I should get the build at ? Here or YTB ?

[sacred snow]

yeah grau mythic is literally the worst looking mythic

[old imp]

kith/pathexe on yt

[knotty parcel]

They dont even use red dot with it

[old imp]

ok this is just unhinged

[hearty dove]

Agree

[hazy belfry]

Thx

[old imp]

and cygnoux

[knotty parcel]

Unless your that weird teammate who stays at one spot rather than helping to rush

[old imp]

But he doesn't post so like what's the point

[knotty parcel]

Cause he too lazy to edit according to gri

[old imp]

i sure hope my kd will not halve after everyone and their dogs start running ffar mg42 unholy devil spawn

[hearty dove]

Ffar is my go to

[old imp]

busy bummin around smh

[hearty dove]

On god

[plush zealot]

Both is fine. Just be aware and find the best one.

I've seen someone pick one and go... it didnt went well

[knotty parcel]

There’s bp50 to change that beauty for ya

[plush zealot]

until he tried the best one ofc

[old imp]

pro players need to expand their horizons to guns other than drh r9 and fennec

[hearty dove]

Can bp50 compete in ads movement speed though?

[hardy latch]

Is it me or alc working for other server s

[hearty dove]

I don't use ffar simply for the ttk

[old imp]

it goes from like 3.7 to 4.1 depending on build

Thats like 25% better than most ars

[knotty parcel]

Kinda? Idk only tried it on br and once on snd to clutch a 1 v 3 game

[hearty dove]

Everything about my setup is godly. It reloads fast as hell, fast sprint speed and ads movement speed. Good accuracy and ttk

[old imp]

Only type 19 comes close at like 3.9 if u dont use acc long barrel

[hardy latch]

Yo?

[knotty parcel]

Alc?

[hardy latch]

Ye alc

[knotty parcel]

Yea idk whats that

[hardy latch]

They sending inv in all chat

Eu alc is down it Say 153 hrs for the next one

[knotty parcel]

The #general-discussion-💫 ?

[old imp]

i think ffar only beats bp50 in ammo count and reload, the 4 tap ttk is like 210 or 215 while bp 4 tap is like 170-180

[atomic bronze]

Hbr

[old imp]

delete this

[atomic bronze]

Tac sup
Ranger barrel
Thunderbolt
Mag
Gran

[knotty parcel]

What the hell was that

[hearty dove]

Honestly even if that is true, ffar still feels nicer to use especially with the mythic or legendary

[mild notch]

[old imp]

ruining my damn session 🤓

[rocky ibex]

Hey guys, I have a question cause I have a problem with the tournament, I played it yesterday evening but today it’s locked, does anyone have this bug too ?

[hearty dove]

That legendary ironsight will never get old

[knotty parcel]

Man is down bad

[old imp]

bp50 mythic looks ass imo yeah

ffar mogs

[hearty dove]

Real

[knotty parcel]

Cause its closed

[atomic bronze]

Mono guerilla light skeleton stock tac laser sturdy grip

[knotty parcel]

It will open in the evening

[wicked stirrup]

wowie, they solved the hvk pandemic

[old imp]

Plus epic sword switch is amazing

[wicked stirrup]

[old imp]

by adding a better gun

[wicked stirrup]

it's no longer meta

[old imp]

what the sigma

[knotty parcel]

Global is full of hvk before?

[rocky ibex]

But I have friends who can play it, is it a question of region ?

[knotty parcel]

It still is

[old imp]

sweaty people used it yeah but most people liked drh more

[knotty parcel]

How

[wicked stirrup]

no, it got replaced by bp50

[old imp]

Easier use i guess, plus irons and the legendary

[wicked stirrup]

[knotty parcel]

Its supposed to be open by 6pm

[atomic bronze]

Idk

[rocky ibex]

I have an Indian friend who can play it, and he’s in global too

[knotty parcel]

But its still a meta, bp50 outshined it with shadow buff tho

[atomic bronze]

Guy named bp50 will open that question

[old imp]

well if u compare anything to bp50 its bad

[knotty parcel]

They shadow buff it so the mythic draws will be worth to the gamblers

[old imp]

korrr mimimimi

[atomic bronze]

Holy diabolical

[knotty parcel]

Whats the time in india rn?

It opens at 6pm here in garena ph

[old imp]

garena what 😧

[atomic bronze]

Even more diabolical

[old imp]

jk i know that country

[knotty parcel]

You dirty minded guy

[hearty dove]

Hmm

[knotty parcel]

Thy holy water be showered to ya

[atomic bronze]

Not hmm

Ksp meta is just straight up diabolical

[rocky ibex]

Around 2 pm

[atomic bronze]

And hg40>hvk too

[knotty parcel]

hg40 is like low tier weapon

[rocky ibex]

Around 2 pm

[storm latch]

What's the meta rn?

[knotty parcel]

You use it cause either you’re comfortable playing with it and know whats good moves for it or do it for fun

[hearty dove]

Posted my ffar and ppsh setups in media

[knotty parcel]

Bp50

[hearty dove]

Imo that's the best ffar setup you can get atm

And those aren't even all the upsides

[storm latch]

What attachments do i use

[atomic bronze]

Oh gahd

[knotty parcel]

Ask @atomic bronze im no gunsmith builder tho

Not a gunsmith connoisseur

[atomic bronze]

@misty burrow yea this is mostly one bad apple

[mild notch]

I have said nothing important 3 minutes ago

[hearty dove]

The worst apple

[old imp]

what the sigma

[knotty parcel]

You have said something not important 3 minutes ago

[storm latch]

@atomic bronze can u give me good attachments for bp50

[hearty dove]

What the sigmer

[wicked stirrup]

[atomic bronze]

Aim assist laser
Maxim suppressor
Leroy barrel
60 round drum
Stippled grip

[storm latch]

Alr ty

[old imp]

Run agency supp, takedown barrel, 44 speed reload mag, 30% 20% stock, 25 30% grip

forgot their namds

[atomic bronze]

No no no

[hearty dove]

Mine is built just for mobility

[knotty parcel]

Oh that justs sealed the deal for ffar with the ammo

[old imp]

[atomic bronze]

Airborne elastic is very bad

The 25 30 grip

[hearty dove]

Range is not sacrificed, and the 10 bsa and 30 hipfire bsa won't hurt that much

[atomic bronze]

It reduces strafe

[hearty dove]

Minimal downside for maximum upside

[old imp]

Huh

Ok let me see

[hearty dove]

It's a real good trade

[atomic bronze]

💀

[atomic bronze]

Its a real bad trade

[hearty dove]

💀

[hearty dove]

Yeah I'd say that too if I didn't have a brain

[hasty mist]

[knotty parcel]

So you go almost full hipfire build

[atomic bronze]

Holy you are special

[hearty dove]

Haha

[hasty mist]

[atomic bronze]

Ksp meta

[hearty dove]

Isn't that what your mum didn't tell you?

[atomic bronze]

Hg40>hvk

[hearty dove]

Yep

Keep going

[atomic bronze]

Ultralight striker fg ffar

Steady stock resilient fg ppsh

Whats next

[hearty dove]

I thought you couldn't read lol now you're finally understanding

[wicked stirrup]

burst striker

[knotty parcel]

[wicked stirrup]

[knotty parcel]

Hey thats my idea

[hearty dove]

Burst striker is Doo doo

[atomic bronze]

Okay so far one nirmal thing yiu said

[hearty dove]

Normal doesn't mean good

[wicked stirrup]

[old imp]

right i have ffarted

[hearty dove]

Something doesn't have to be normal for it to be good

[old imp]

serpent wrap

[hearty dove]

Ye

[knotty parcel]

So from what I see @hearty dove is a more of a mobility kind of guy

[atomic bronze]

In this case i meant that

[old imp]

Ye bur rhats guns like oden, asval fmj and swordfish with niche advantages and high skill high reward

[hearty dove]

Maybe

[atomic bronze]

No

[knotty parcel]

I’ll look the stats

[atomic bronze]

Exactly

[hearty dove]

High skill high reward is def ksp

[knotty parcel]

Hold on

[atomic bronze]

Lmaooooo

Like out of all the bursts

God damn ksp

This guy is mad

[hearty dove]

Not saying the other bursts aren't better

Yeah, I'm totally mad

[old imp]

theres like a difference between high skill = good gameplay and high skill = tap into weapon potential

[wicked stirrup]

CN comps are using chicom

[atomic bronze]

Once again

[hearty dove]

Ksp is just both of those

[atomic bronze]

Im dissapointed by the pros

[atomic bronze]

Explain why ksp is good

[old imp]

insane that they refuse to pick up kn and took 6 months to pick up oden but will use chicom immediately

[knotty parcel]

Ohhhhh

[wicked stirrup]

very based for using chicom tho

[knotty parcel]

This dude is one my people

[hearty dove]

Sorry you don't have working eyes man

[knotty parcel]

The hardscopers

[hearty dove]

I hope your situation gets better

[atomic bronze]

Huh?

[old imp]

use stats not words

whats ttk, whats range, whats mobility?

[hearty dove]

Hm

[knotty parcel]

Ppsh alone can see the hardscope in him

[old imp]

compared to other smgs or just in general

[hearty dove]

Ksp has good mobility while maintaining accuracy

[knotty parcel]

Its my people

[hearty dove]

Compared to everything

[old imp]

thanks

[wicked stirrup]

accurate strafe

[hearty dove]

Strafe is almost better, if not better than fennec with all mobility iirc

[atomic bronze]

Why you talking to yourself

[old imp]

Whats bsa then? Compared to chicom

[hearty dove]

Talkin to you. That's more proof that you can't read

[atomic bronze]

Just in general

[wicked stirrup]

that's debatable but go on

[atomic bronze]

Im not one saying stupid stuff

[hearty dove]

Whatever my point is it's just really high while still keeping its accuracy up

Unlike other smgs you usually sacrifice accuracy or range

It's good, the aim shake is hard to get used to

[knotty parcel]

Oh nah dude is reversed, he goes bsa build with smg and mobility with ar

[atomic bronze]

Doesnt it have like no initial bsa

[hearty dove]

Yeah

[atomic bronze]

Then it cant be meta

[wicked stirrup]

the what

[atomic bronze]

Like if its 2nd worst burst

[wicked stirrup]

[hearty dove]

Wasn't replying to ya

[knotty parcel]

[atomic bronze]

This is public chat you idiot

Anyone can reply to anyone if they wanr

[hearty dove]

Yeah so keep to yourself

[old imp]

bombaclat

[knotty parcel]

The smg hardscope build im fine with it (cause I hardscope a lot) but the ffar mobility

[atomic bronze]

Doesnt it have 14(14)

Like no initial spread at all

[wicked stirrup]

[hearty dove]

Bomba clat

[knotty parcel]

You should have just went with smg than ar

[wicked stirrup]

🔥

[knotty parcel]

[wicked stirrup]

no initial spread is

[atomic bronze]

Yeah i remember its bsa is hella odd

[knotty parcel]

Can say the ffar build, cursed

[atomic bronze]

Especialy for a burst

No

[wicked stirrup]

at least you have infinite taper now

or 0 taper

[knotty parcel]

Its better to just go with smg for mobility why go ar tho

[hearty dove]

Cursed but really good

[atomic bronze]

20m 5 shot and no suppression for just mobility is bad

[hearty dove]

That's the gun I dropped 47 wit

[knotty parcel]

No its just cursed

[atomic bronze]

Straight ul

[hearty dove]

Agree it's cursed

[atomic bronze]

No it isnt

[bleak bough]

Where's alcatraz Activision

[hearty dove]

It is

[bleak bough]

Gae

[atomic bronze]

He is saying it isnt good

[knotty parcel]

Its better to go smg with it than make an ar gun into a mobility build

[hearty dove]

Mobility is smg build

[knotty parcel]

Ppsh, its a bit good (biased cause im a hardscoper)

[atomic bronze]

20 meters 5 shot 6 meters 4 shot while having no suppression and mid ish bsa all for mobility is pretty ass

[hearty dove]

With the ppsh couldn't deal with the inaccuracy

[atomic bronze]

I think its even slower than some main ars

[fair egret]

My hands are broken and cramping, I think CODM finally catching up with arthritis

[knotty parcel]

Just as I said, guy has a reversed mind

[wicked stirrup]

buff ppsh when

[atomic bronze]

😭

[hearty dove]

The shake is what hurts

[atomic bronze]

He just cant build

[atomic bronze]

This is enough proof for that

[hearty dove]

I just take the downsides away and make them better

[atomic bronze]

Lmao

[atomic bronze]

?

[knotty parcel]

Im fine with his ppsh tho cause biased as a hardscoper in snd

Hp/domi with that build tho, definitely no no

[atomic bronze]

@knotty parcel This is funny thi

[hearty dove]

For example with my ppsh, it didn't have great accuracy so sacrificed my mobility to make it usable

At range

[knotty parcel]

He made a 3 shot gun at first range 4 shot

[wicked stirrup]

ppsh already has below average mobility and you nuked it

[hearty dove]

And for the ffar, the opposite since it's closer to an smg

[atomic bronze]

So you use ppsh at range ans ffar at smg range

[hearty dove]

Yeah basically

[atomic bronze]

@knotty parcel You were right this guy is inverse

[static folio]

where's alcatraz for EU lan? 😭😭😭😭

[hearty dove]

I'm just built different

[atomic bronze]

Do you realise how dumb that us

[knotty parcel]

I aint joking about it

[atomic bronze]

No you are just dumb.

Building smg as ar and ar as smg is holy stupid

[hearty dove]

It's not really like that

[atomic bronze]

You dont do that stuff

[hearty dove]

I just get rid of the downside of each

[atomic bronze]

It literally is

[hearty dove]

The ffar is more like an smg than an ar

[atomic bronze]

Bsa isnt a downside on ppsh

[wicked stirrup]

mfw i get an ar with no range and an smg with mid ass mobility

[hearty dove]

I know that but those specific guns had to tweak them

[atomic bronze]

If you use it properly

[wicked stirrup]

[atomic bronze]

20m 257ms ttk

[knotty parcel]

Look there are some smg’s that is kinda viable going ar build but there are some you dont want to go ar build like hg40 its already a hard time to kill cause low ttk just go with ads with this one

[hearty dove]

Yeah, I did run ppsh mobility in the past

[wicked stirrup]

[hearty dove]

I am a changed man

[wicked stirrup]

a quarter of bp50's range

[atomic bronze]

For worse it seems

[hearty dove]

For better

[atomic bronze]

Razorback and agr

[knotty parcel]

Yea these guns a much more better for ar build tbh

[atomic bronze]

You build ppsh like ar and ffar like smg that isnt for better dawg. And you called ksp meta

[hearty dove]

By your logic anything that's easy for noobs to use is meta

[knotty parcel]

Ksp? Hold on that exists? Lemme check

[atomic bronze]

No? Eou and meta is two differwnt things

[knotty parcel]

Ah I didnt use it except lapa and striker

[atomic bronze]

Issue is you think ksp is good

[hearty dove]

Issue is you, not having skill

[wicked stirrup]

but that's how it is?
meta literally means most efficient tactics available, and that includes ease of use

[hearty dove]

Simply

[wicked stirrup]

and most of the weapons with good ttk are also just so happen to be extremely easy to use

[hearty dove]

Meta for people with skill, for the ksp is what I meant

[atomic bronze]

No

[wicked stirrup]

go read up the definition for meta

[atomic bronze]

Im objective asf

[wicked stirrup]

[atomic bronze]

Ask anyone

[hearty dove]

I know the definition of it

[wicked stirrup]

and that is?

[atomic bronze]

Ill say all day cx9 burst is meta

[knotty parcel]

[hearty dove]

Tryna be dense for no reason

[atomic bronze]

Even tho i cant use it

[knotty parcel]

Would rather use pdw tbh

[hearty dove]

Yep, I used to call ksp meta when I couldn't use it

[atomic bronze]

Ksp is second worst burst

Not really meta

[hearty dove]

But now I can, and it's meta

[atomic bronze]

How can 2nd worst burst be meta?

[hearty dove]

I can't be wrong when I'm right

[atomic bronze]

Thats literally opposite of what meta means

[hearty dove]

There is but yeah keep talkin

[knotty parcel]

My head hurts in this

[hearty dove]

I said what I said and arguing against it is just not doing anything

You can't change what the gun is to me or anyone else that uses it

You've been doing that the entire time

[atomic bronze]

@misty burrow gotta go eat but notice this guy hasnt provided a single piece of proof exceot cuz i say so

[hearty dove]

But I wouldn't want to entertain your ignorance anymore so I'm dippin

Got better stuff to do like touching grass

[knotty parcel]

You see meta is what you call a weapon that can be easily be picked by people and do good impact to it

Finally something good happened outside, its starting to rain

Finally getting cozy

[tulip magnet]

nice

[knotty parcel]

Finally something for my brain to get a bit cozy

[tulip magnet]

can anyone suggest me a good weapon layout for attacking play in mp

[hearty dove]

Oh nice amoled theme is on discord again

[amber shell]

Guys what's up with Alcatraz?

[hearty dove]

It's closed temporarily for some reason in some regions

[hearty dove]

Ksp, cx9, fennec

Anything fast and good ttk

[wicked stirrup]

bp50:
maxim supp
leroy rapid
aa laser
60r mag
stipple tape

[trail prawn]

good morning everyone

[hearty dove]

Gm

[wicked stirrup]

supp sandy

[versed flint]

Hbr or amax

[trail prawn]

👋 🦜

[tulip magnet]

I want layout for drh

[wicked stirrup]

i prefer amax, but im biased

[trail prawn]

hai Gri 👋 🦜

[knotty parcel]

Aggro?
Ar: Bp50, hvk
Smg: Cx9, Fennec
Lmg: mg42,hades (kinda biased on this one)
Sr: tundra

[wicked stirrup]

add pkm to the list

[hearty dove]

Longest barrel
Mono sup
No stock
25 rnd otm mag
Stipple grip tape
Drh

[tulip magnet]

for drh

[knotty parcel]

Meh, kinda like it on a passive play tho

[trail prawn]

kinda weird how hades became agressive lmg

[hearty dove]

Real

[wicked stirrup]

@atomic bronze lmao

[hearty dove]

I been using hades for ages

[versed flint]

Nice gtr

[hearty dove]

It's always been good with the crossbar

[knotty parcel]

Viable but bp50 overshadows it cause of shadow buff

[hearty dove]

It's hot ay

[wicked stirrup]

it is the 2nd best lmg you can use

[versed flint]

Hottest

[hearty dove]

Just like da pig

[versed flint]

Ul died?

[trail prawn]

also since when chopper chainsaw build became so accurate? the crosshair is so thin now, i mean thats cool but like, why?

[wicked stirrup]

ul is like

[knotty parcel]

I go with passive on that one very lovely dont wanna aggro on it cause mobility issue

[wicked stirrup]

top 3

[hearty dove]

Chopper is old

[wicked stirrup]

lmgs are meant to be passive anyways

[versed flint]

And why Hades suddenly got popular

[hearty dove]

Hades with crossbar is the new chopper

[wicked stirrup]

no idea

[tulip magnet]

yes

[hazy belfry]

Is it for aggro gameplay ?

[knotty parcel]

Its like chopper before but lower ammo (again from experience, so biased)

[wicked stirrup]

ya

[trail prawn]

that doesnt answer my question

[hazy belfry]

K thx

[heady elbow]

Hey everyone

[versed flint]

It's always been kinda dead despite nice stats

[knotty parcel]

But some can go aggro for some reason

[versed flint]

But suddenly see ppl riding it

[trail prawn]

u can now crossmap with chopper chainsaw for some reason

[hearty dove]

Honestly hades is just really good

[knotty parcel]

Cause of this update yes

Low ads time and high fire rate

Its basically smg but on ar section

[wicked stirrup]

it's everything all at once

[tulip magnet]

it will work for global also right?

[hearty dove]

Posted my hades setup

That was an old one I had

[atomic bronze]

Stippled 💀

[wicked stirrup]

80m of 250ms ttk

[versed flint]

Main ar range but smg ttk

[atomic bronze]

Yeah im going back to bed

[knotty parcel]

Global, garena it works everywhere

[atomic bronze]

Hi

[tulip magnet]

hmm

i will give it a try

bp50

[hearty dove]

Rapid fire barrel is required for hades to be able to compete

[knotty parcel]

The bp50? Yea its a good weapon to try

Gonna stay on hg for now tho

I wanna grind it till legendary

[tulip magnet]

hg?

[fair egret]

BP-50 build

[hearty dove]

Hg40

[fair egret]

Lemme get a stat nerd up in here rq

[knotty parcel]

hg40, a low tier smg now meta weapon before

[versed flint]

What's this about hg being meta

[knotty parcel]

You’re a bit late gri fell asleep

[hearty dove]

Hg used to be meta and still is really good

[knotty parcel]

And nes left for some reason

[tulip magnet]

in smg i am using fennec

[fair egret]

He just sent a mess one minute ago 😭

We’ll 2 now

[versed flint]

O

[knotty parcel]

Yea viable option

I go with cx9 tho cause it has bit nicer feels for me

[hearty dove]

If they buff 3 shot range by like 20% or 30% hg40 will definitely be meta

[amber sequoia]

bruh u reached gm2 and already getting bots in my team and hard grind player in opposite

like bruh remove the mg42 gun

[fair egret]

I’m legendary 💀

[knotty parcel]

But both of them are a on par weapon its just a one shines the other and vice versa