codm-discussion-💫

[edgy nacelle]

Tf you mean 'it'

[small drum]

Ion know your preferred pronouns🤷‍♂️

Also you feel like an it

[quartz swift]

His joke in the bio at least was a little good

[vague sage]

💀 wha happen

[small drum]

Yuh

[edgy nacelle]

I'm gonna end myself

[small drum]

Nun

Just a silly Lil guy that may have the stupid

[quartz swift]

Considerable amounts of yapping. Started with the message “even guns are trans wth” upon describing FFAR to be a trans smg

[small drum]

And said as Val has lots of recoil

[edgy nacelle]

Let it go I'm sorry 😭

[quartz swift]

Nobody’s making fun of you i promise

[runic dust]

I won 1 round

[vague sage]

[quartz swift]

I just said what it was

[small drum]

Nah he fr dumb

[edgy nacelle]

I've never uses it I was saying random things

[small drum]

Then think before you type idk

[edgy nacelle]

Nope

[vague sage]

Ese wey

[small drum]

Critical part of communication

[quartz swift]

There’s 4 guns in the entire game with bad recoil and we have well over 100 excluding secondaries

[small drum]

Para

[civic plover]

I there host advantage in this game cause so many times I see kill games where theyxdont get DMG

[quartz swift]

Host advantage. Is that just another way to say desync?

But it’s more accurate to how it works so i’ll take it

[runic dust]

Yo give me a meta item and some attachments

[civic plover]

Idk I see ppl slide around corner I see hit marks in my game

[vague sage]

Mg42

[civic plover]

And when I look kill cam

[quartz swift]

It really depends if the enemy happens to have stronger internet connection than yours

[civic plover]

I see zero dmg

[small drum]

Mg42
Maxim supp
VDD 31m barrel
VDD skeletal
Disable/fmj/leather grip
13mm anti material

[civic plover]

I keep getting matched with Lawrence of arabia

[vague sage]

Kill cam in codm it's not accurate so don't believe in it

[small drum]

Tundra
Tiger team barrel
Fmj
Tactical suppredor
Airborne elastic grip
7rnd mag

[runic dust]

I don't have it yet

[vague sage]

Not even like cods from consoles

[small drum]

Crossbar
Agile stock
Firm grip
Rapid fire barrel
Agency suppredr
Hades

[quartz swift]

The servers disconnect you in favor. Their hotfix to bad servers is “only SOME people experience lag” instead of getting to the root of it

[small drum]

Goofy

[runic dust]

Where do we find crossbar

[small drum]

Idk

[quartz swift]

Hades

Underbarrel

[small drum]

In handles

[civic plover]

New mg needs higher ads

[quartz swift]

Hell naw

[civic plover]

For higher skill ceiling games

[small drum]

Slower?

Oh yeah

[civic plover]

Ppl with grau or manowar

[vague sage]

The ads time it's fine

[civic plover]

Kill u

[small drum]

Grau booty

[quartz swift]

Mg42 doesn’t have a problem with ads time. In fact should be nerfed

[small drum]

T19>

[small drum]

Yup

[runic dust]

Then why are you telling me

[quartz swift]

You’re using mg42 like it’s something else

[civic plover]

Idk

[vague sage]

Read below

[civic plover]

Can't use it as an assault rifle

[vague sage]

Because it's not lmao

[small drum]

It's a lmg with high mobility and high rof with no recoil

[vague sage]

It's a lmg

[quartz swift]

There’s the issue. You used it like a flexible. And not a semi passive

[small drum]

What more you want

[civic plover]

Wall hack

[small drum]

So fmj

[quartz swift]

The mobility is actually average. Like pkm mobility. Ads time is above average

[civic plover]

I want smart bullets in my mg42

[quartz swift]

Both mag and FMJ

[small drum]

Strafe feel fast for lmg

[quartz swift]

Interesting

[halcyon violet]

@small drum #codm-media :)

[quartz swift]

Like ppsh fast?

[small drum]

My na45 God is here🙏

[halcyon violet]

Mobility is its only con actually

[runic dust]

You mean chopper

[quartz swift]

I’m saying like

It’s got average mobility but above average all elsewhere

[halcyon violet]

Yeah

[quartz swift]

It should be nerfed in some way

[small drum]

No dummy

[halcyon violet]

Although to really spec into its other stuff its mobility tanks

[runic dust]

Then what

[halcyon violet]

What it needs is a recoil nerf

Make its base recoil way higher

[small drum]

Thanks for new angle babe

[halcyon violet]

Almost unusably high

[small drum]

HADES

[runic dust]

Bruh

[quartz swift]

Certainly, +40% vertical recoil and +25% horizontal

[small drum]

Yeah

[quartz swift]

That way it’s mandatory to build it for recoil control

[small drum]

That rof with no recoil crazy

[halcyon violet]

It also needs its attachments' reductions to be nerfed

Bc it doesn't matter how high base recoil is if you can hit 100% reduction

[quartz swift]

So that at most you can make it like s36?

[halcyon violet]

No reason for -65% from two attachments

[small drum]

😱

Should give thermite rounds fr

[halcyon violet]

Change barrels from -30/40 to -15/30 and change mags from +/-25 to +/-15

[runic dust]

Yo koshka or locus

[quartz swift]

Koshka

[small drum]

Koshka

Light barrel
Combat stock
Strippeld tape
Fmj mag
Hip fire laser

[quartz swift]

Now it’s probably the only time we have to use balance on agr 556 in a good way

[small drum]

Ranked feel so repetitive now

[quartz swift]

Ohoh, now??

[small drum]

Yeah

[quartz swift]

When was it not

[small drum]

Akimbo fennec meta

[quartz swift]

You pick the same maps. You do the same tactics on the selected gamemode for that map. Win/lose as braindead teams and enemies because the skill ceiling for ranked is that low

[small drum]

Yup

I love it

Brain rot🙏

[quartz swift]

Did i ever tell you, the definition of insanity?

[small drum]

Ranked

[plush zealot]

[vague sage]

Diamond camo

[quartz swift]

Also that

[remote nimbus]

one of a bot forgot to turn off noclip 💀💀💀💀

[quartz swift]

Best example is zombies though

[willow wave]

Nah that's easier than gold (at least process wise)

[vague sage]

Aether camo too

[plush zealot]

Aether? It wasnt bad.

[quartz swift]

Not for camos

[remote nimbus]

I know why my sniper aim bad now...

[quartz swift]

For gameplay

[willow wave]

Aether scary

Ohhh spooky

[vague sage]

It's not when you get a team that builds turrets

[plush zealot]

Its easy, yeah

[remote nimbus]

oh yeah
is locus+katate good combo?

[plush zealot]

gameplay is hella boring

[remote nimbus]

uhm ok

[vapid karma]

katana?

[willow wave]

Who has the ranked katana?

[vapid karma]

me

why?

[halcyon violet]

a lot of people

[willow wave]

Does it look cool?

[vapid karma]

yeah

it fit with new ranked gun tundra

[willow wave]

I'm rocking the sharpest claw rn and I wonder if the ranked one will replace it.

Sharpest claw 🔥🔥🔥

[vapid karma]

i have so many kaatna i got from mythic draw

the mythic asval has katana that is cool

i have it but i hate the sound

[willow wave]

I don't like a lot of katana skins so sharpest claw special. I really like it and I think it looks good with the camos

[vapid karma]

gurdian spirt katana skin is so good with red sprite

[vapid karma]

is it from grau mythic draw?

[willow wave]

I think so.

[vapid karma]

i have that too i dont use it

i use when i use the mytic grau

[willow wave]

I use it only cuz it looks fantastic in my opinion.

[vapid karma]

i use katana which matching gun skin

[willow wave]

Especially with camos

[vapid karma]

yeah

[willow wave]

Same lol

[vague sage]

Dang, i will just get $50 :c
$10 more

[willow wave]

Oof.

[vague sage]

idk if you remember but, both of my wii and my PS3 were sold to help my parents get money for the visas we have to pay
From $200 i will just receive $50

[willow wave]

Oh yeah.

[vague sage]

😭

[dawn glade]

Whats the best gun skin yall got from a lucky draw😭

[vague sage]

Celestial Ink

[willow wave]

Hmm lemme think

[vague sage]

I mean, I had to buy the whole roulette because i got it at the end

[dawn glade]

Mine was the legendary shorty skin I got it the first try

[icy valve]

Nice

[vague sage]

At least

[willow wave]

Pink gayk lol.

[willow wave]

Or Phantoms reach sniper but then again I haven't done many draws

[dawn glade]

Same I do them rarely

But when I do my luck is good

[willow wave]

I have the worst luck possible

[old imp]

hey guys how is cordite

Good weapon or no

[willow wave]

Possibly meta I think?

[quartz swift]

Nobody uses it. Even though it’s CBR with 80 rounds (only downside is recoil)

[willow wave]

I'm really not sure tho

[spring osprey]

I thought Cordite had good hip accu?

[old imp]

dang im not great with recoil

[quartz swift]

Flinch buff means no longer needs an outside cause (like perks) to be good

[spring osprey]

Or am I thinking pdw

[quartz swift]

It used to.

[fair egret]

I got em2 mythic first try

[quartz swift]

That’s a really long while ago though

[spring osprey]

Awh my name is too long

[willow wave]

I wish the pdw gets nerfed to the ground so nobody ever uses it 🗣️🗣️🗣️ 🔥🔥🔥

[spring osprey]

Damn

[dawn glade]

Bruh I'll never get a mythic a single day in My life 😭😭😭

[old imp]

any1 have cordite build? i wanna try

[spring osprey]

How much is it to get, assuming you get the mythic on the last draw?

[willow wave]

Relatable

[spring osprey]

I’ve heard 150 but isn’t that with fully upgrading it?

[dawn glade]

Only time I get to use mythics are test servers

[dawn glade]

Uh lemme see rq

I'm not level 5 but I can send a code if I find one

[old imp]

like 5k - 14k cp

[old imp]

Alr thanks

[spring osprey]

That wide of a range?

[old imp]

Because 10cp vs 30cp starting price

[spring osprey]

30 cp start it’s a myth

So yeah it’s 150 for me

[old imp]

India has 10cp starting for mythivs

[spring osprey]

Guess we are not buying the mg42

[fair egret]

15k cp like $150 for the gun & $150 upgrade if na

[old imp]

painful

[dawn glade]

This my old cordite class here's the code idk if it's still good code Cordite-1A2B4B6C7D

[old imp]

Alright i try

[old pelican]

just got m4 I'm getting off this trash game

[quartz swift]

Hell nah. But okay then

[remote nimbus]

yeah

[old imp]

give good cordite build!!!

[remote nimbus]

I finally got free legendary m4

[quartz swift]

Monolithic suppressor, extended barrel, light stock, 80 round mag, SoH

Or optic instead of perk

[old imp]

Thanks

Oh dope

[old imp]

Also for locus, recommended stopping power mag or no?

[left orchid]

this is the cancer build

[left orchid]

no

[quartz swift]

How so

[old imp]

Dang

[left orchid]

80 rnd smg

with range buff

[zealous fog]

How to get better

[left orchid]

might as well be an lmg at that point

[quartz swift]

Oh you mean nasty?

[left orchid]

play the game

[vapid karma]

Why u got so late

[zealous fog]

I’m still bad

[vague sage]

Wasn't just flinch buff?

[remote nimbus]

whattt

[drifting osprey]

Mg42 noskill gun

[remote nimbus]

garena 💀

[left orchid]

well if u wanna put it like that

[quartz swift]

Yeah it also has 4.5m movement speed and better bsa than cbr

[drifting osprey]

😭

[left orchid]

that too

[left orchid]

cbr is overrated anyway

[remote nimbus]

yeah

[quartz swift]

Yes indeed

[left orchid]

[zealous fog]

What your bio say

[old imp]

its because of trauma

[vapid karma]

Ohh days now I know

[left orchid]

somebody got bodied by mg42

[zealous fog]

I can’t read Chinese

[left orchid]

that & also its rlly overrated

[drifting osprey]

Someone doesn’t understand how broken mg is

[remote nimbus]

I suck at chinese but I have something

[drifting osprey]

By reading the stats and understanding the game

[quartz swift]

Now. The thing with cordite is it’s just cbr meta with 80 round mag and bad recoil

[left orchid]

oh I do...but I fail to see how its a no-skill gun

[quartz swift]

Same practicality. More effective too

[left orchid]

bad recoil?

[quartz swift]

“Bad” recoil

[left orchid]

I don't even notice recoil on my cordite

[quartz swift]

It’s quite manegable

[remote nimbus]

Member of the Li Chang Xiao Corps and a big fan of Shuigui Luohuo

MS Pet Shop Small Animals Zhong Jizuo Annihilates the Audi Master (It’s Difficult)

(lt's annihilate very difficult)

Anchor Lin Boheng singled out Brother Kaban

[quartz swift]

But compared to other smooth guns it’s a little worse than average

[vague sage]

You could just dm him that xd

[zealous fog]

I still don’t understand

[left orchid]

I use tec-9 so

[zealous fog]

I’m cooked

[vague sage]

Lmao

[left orchid]

[remote nimbus]

💀

[quartz swift]

How about i put it as “cbr with 80 rounds”

[remote nimbus]

80 rounds??

[quartz swift]

That’s for cordite

[left orchid]

the only thing that's similar abt em is that they're both using "slap-on" mags

[quartz swift]

Duhhhhh

Cordite is black-ops 4 p90 which is cbr

[drifting osprey]

Fastest fire interval in the game,no recoil,good enough bsa,125+ ammo,it’s a lmg(disable)

Enough to say right?

[quartz swift]

Strap to that strong hipfire, and Powerful FMJ

[dawn glade]

I got sum good ahh gun codes if yall want jus tell me the gun and I'll make a loadout in dm or server

[left orchid]

fastest fire interval in the game?? what are you smoking, chief?

[vague sage]

Actually

Better than mac-10 with some attachments

[quartz swift]

Please. What are YOU smoking?

[remote nimbus]

ok

[drifting osprey]

Disable on lmgs

[quartz swift]

It can have faster fire rate than mac-10 with its attachments

[left orchid]

I haven't unlocked mg42 in mp yet, maybe I'm judging too fast

[drifting osprey]

It does lil bro

[quartz swift]

50ms for mac-10 in comparison to 49ms on mg42

[drifting osprey]

47ms fire interval

[left orchid]

mg42 is broken in br too though

[old imp]

cordite pretty good but does it lack dmg or sometihng

[quartz swift]

Oh it’s even faster

[left orchid]

mg42 is peak br meta

[drifting osprey]

That’s why it needs a hard nerf

[vague sage]

Maybe because we forgot the mag that increases fire rate too xd
Aside from muzzle and barrel

[left orchid]

no, ttk

[quartz swift]

It’s also a pain in the ass for mp as well

[old imp]

it does feel a bit low

[left orchid]

nah they need to sell the mythic

they won't nerf the mg42 so easily

[drifting osprey]

Nerf it hard right after draw ends

[old imp]

type 19 50% bsa nerf

[left orchid]

so...in 3 weeks time?

coz that's usually the time mythic draws last

[drifting osprey]

Yes

[old imp]

it needs a nerf now

[left orchid]

no it doesn't

t19 is fine as it is

it's good but not broken

[quartz swift]

It doesn’t need that bad of a nerf. But it does need one of some sort

[old imp]

its like grau but actually good

[left orchid]

t19 is good but not broken enough to warrant a nerf

[quartz swift]

It’s just on the edge of best flex ar. Ttk can compete with smgs

[left orchid]

at best an adjustment

[old imp]

Lmg conversion has kilo movement speed as well

[quartz swift]

And down range competes with lmgs and ranged ars

[left orchid]

grau is like irrelevant now

[quartz swift]

No. It’s faster than holger

[quartz swift]

Grau should’ve been buffed

[left orchid]

hell nah

[old imp]

nah dont buff it i dont wanna see it

[left orchid]

grau was alr super overrated

[old imp]

Grau players are so ungifted

Speaking as a grau main

[left orchid]

buffing it would've ruined the game

[left orchid]

[quartz swift]

Speaking balance wise but yes it was

[old imp]

Although i main kilo/t19 now

[drifting osprey]

Overrated then buffing it would destroy the game?

L english

[left orchid]

I also use grau occasionally & yes I can attest it's a true no-skill gun

[old imp]

I dont come to codm server to speak perfect english

[quartz swift]

Type 19 being a better noob tube

[old imp]

I even run red dot because i am truly talentless

[left orchid]

grau is so overrated

[left orchid]

[drifting osprey]

It isn’t even close to perfect,it’s another meaning

[left orchid]

I don't disagree

[drifting osprey]

😭😭

12ammo:

[left orchid]

I run qxr too

[dawn glade]

My main ar but u right

[old imp]

I could not care less

[left orchid]

my main smgs are qxr, tec9 & fennec

[quartz swift]

Yeah no argument. Tec-9 burst better though

[old imp]

I shant lie to you

[left orchid]

I like tec9 now

[old imp]

Full auto cx9 is also ridiculous esp with soh

[drifting osprey]

Tec9 burst 4 shots

[old imp]

Good weap

[left orchid]

laughs in unlimited range 4-shot

[quartz swift]

Fast burst intervals

You can argue no suppressor

[left orchid]

yea

no suppression is the only downside to tec9

[quartz swift]

My favorite niche meta

[left orchid]

mhm

[old imp]

anyone have an absolutely bonzers locus build

[quartz swift]

I thought it’s gonna be garbage and i’m glad i was wrong

[left orchid]

more ppl in garena r starting to use tec9 burst now which I like

[quartz swift]

Signs of intelligence

[willow wave]

whats meta rn?

[old imp]

t19, hvk30, fennec, cx9, qq9, qxr etc

[left orchid]

a rare instance

[past jungle]

whats the best barrel for tec 9 burst

[left orchid]

blud forgot tundra

[past jungle]

t19 slaps bro

[left orchid]

burst fire muzzle

[quartz swift]

Taskforce

[left orchid]

oh wait, barrel...sorry I mean taskforce

[quartz swift]

It increases all body multis by 0.1

[left orchid]

ye

[old imp]

Tundra is a sniper its like only meta if you force yourself to use snipers to the point where you are esports level

[left orchid]

even as someone who doesn't use snipers regularly I feel very comfortable sniping with tundra

[old imp]

Then you're just not playing against good players

[left orchid]

the point isn't about the 1-shot, it's about all-round balance

[left orchid]

I am

[old imp]

Tundra is the best sniper

[left orchid]

Yuh huh

[old imp]

Snipers are not the best weapons

[left orchid]

I did not say that

[old imp]

There is no point when something like Sks has 180ms of ttk while snipers have like 300ms of base ads time

[left orchid]

I was only saying tundra is meta

[left orchid]

but it doesn't mean it's the best wpn

[old imp]

Which it is, if you consider snipers only

[plush zealot]

while we're getting M4 everywhere lol

[left orchid]

what's your point?

[left orchid]

in br

[plush zealot]

em2 was also getting more use

[old imp]

That tundra is not meta unless you consider snipers only

[left orchid]

mhmm

[old imp]

Snipers as a whole rarely make it into meta

Unless u are miney

[left orchid]

and why should I take your word for it?

are you an esports player?

[old imp]

U can look at the average match dawg

[modest acorn]

miney sucks

[left orchid]

are you a member of LoD?

or SoD?

[old imp]

Are you?

[plush zealot]

what are you trying to prove?

[old imp]

look at sentence

[left orchid]

no, but at least I can back up my so-called "opinions"

[old imp]

How u just said "oh i like using tundra"

[left orchid]

tundra is very clearly meta even among non-snipers

[plush zealot]

i read. There's no direct evidence lol.

Thats just opinion

[left orchid]

u didn't read my sentence before that

p' much yea

[old imp]

U just said something about tec9

[left orchid]

tundra has the best ads time, consistent one-shot, breath hold time, range, and mobility

[old imp]

Or "blud forgot about tundra"

[left orchid]

this

[old imp]

I didnt forget about tundra lol

[left orchid]

it makes dlq look like old news

tundra trumps every other sniper in every aspect

[plush zealot]

if you have problem using sniper, don't just tell everyone that sniper is bad

[old imp]

I said you can effectively use it if you're good at it

[left orchid]

fr lmao

[old imp]

But i dont recommend it to anyone

[left orchid]

why would you not recommend a sniper that basically...well...has everything a sniper could ask for?

[plush zealot]

who say we cant have more than one?

[old imp]

The skill you need to make a sniper as effective as the average smg/ar would make you like leaderboard skill level with an actual smg/ar

[left orchid]

says who?

[plush zealot]

dude.

[old imp]

So snipers are skilless now? i dont understand

[left orchid]

I have seen ppl who are not lb players but still can dominate smg/ars with snipers

[plush zealot]

then why is SKS consider a meta?

[left orchid]

I honestly don't even know the point you're trying to make

[old imp]

Im saying those players that put a lot of skill into sniper could be much better with an smg or ar

[left orchid]

why wouldn't a sniper that is statistically superior in every aspect be considered meta?

[old imp]

Because its only superior to other snipers

Not that hard to beam sniper players

[left orchid]

so?

[left orchid]

not that hard?

[old imp]

Yes, just aim

[left orchid]

so you're saying ars & smgs are skill-less now?

you just contradicted yourself

[old imp]

Dawg when did i say ar or smg took skill

[left orchid]

lmao

[old imp]

I just said snipers take a lot of skill, apply it to ar or smg and u become really really good

[left orchid]

this guy..

[old imp]

I invite you to find where i said ars and smgs took a lot of skill

[left orchid]

it's like I'm talking to a wall at this point

[left orchid]

omg

yea I'm definitely talking to a wall

[spring osprey]

World chat is wild

[past jungle]

fr

[old imp]

Cant u just grasp that just because something is best in that section doesnt mean it qualifies as meta, because that section is not inherently meta

[modest acorn]

always wild

[left orchid]

so you're telling me guns like pharo, msmc, swordfish, m4, gks, striker45 & striker shotgun don't take skill to use?

[old imp]

Unless u are, again, a really good sniper plauyer

[left orchid]

says who?

[spring osprey]

Can i resolve y’alls argument rq

[left orchid]

who says that snipers aren't inherently meta

[spring osprey]

I read thru the previous messages and can see where it all went wrong

[past jungle]

whats the arguement

[left orchid]

who told you that?

[old imp]

And ur saying 3 tap/2 tap meta, mow thermite, and smgs take any more than half decent aim

[left orchid]

do you have solid, concrete proof that can corroborate your claim that snipers aren't meta by default?

[plush zealot]

that Tundra doesnt consider a meta cuz' it requires a lot of skill (compete to AR/SMG)

[spring osprey]

Basically mistergrass took something getting cancer said out of context and they haven’t returned to rational debate since that

[left orchid]

that snipers aren't meta

[past jungle]

tf

[quartz swift]

Interesting point if view

[past jungle]

tundra in the hands of a skilled player is meta

[left orchid]

this is a stupid argument

[old imp]

and u have proof that snipers are meta? Only with again, really skilled players, otherwise you are completely useless

[past jungle]

see im ass with it tbh

[torn parcel]

Banana man

[plush zealot]

thats like saying M4 is better than Tundra.

[left orchid]

jesus christ...

[spring osprey]

Oh i get it

[left orchid]

why I am even bothering with this guy at this point

[spring osprey]

Okay hold up y’all

[old imp]

I dont even understand what you don't get about my point

[quartz swift]

Let me try to understand.

The skill you need to utilize a sniper will make you so much better at using ars and smgs. Thus, sniper by itself cannot compete with ars and smgs

[spice sand]

Who wanna 1on1m

[quartz swift]

Is that right?@old imp

[past jungle]

nah wait see if i use tundra its not meta cuz im ass at sniping but tundra in the hands of a skilled player is meta

[left orchid]

I don't get what your point is either, but okay

[spring osprey]

Getting Cancer, if I’m correct, said that snipers are only meta if/because skilled players can take advantage of them

[old imp]

I'm saying unless you are a really good player snipers are very useless against the average, average skilled smg/ar player

[past jungle]

i mean yh cuz noobs like me cant snipe

[left orchid]

which is dumb anyway, since any weapon in the hands of a skilled player can make them look meta

even a garbage wpn

[quartz swift]

I take it as using snipers is just egocentrism

[old imp]

But a weapon like mow thermite, mg42 can look amazingly strong in the hands of a subpar player

[spring osprey]

And then did getting cancer say tundra isn’t meta because snipers are meta dependent on skill?

[left orchid]

but it doesn't mean that the garbage wpn isn't still garbage...

the player's skill does not change the quality of the weapon

[quartz swift]

It no longer depends. Current nerf has it that it can’t hardscope anymore

[old imp]

That is also true

[spring osprey]

@old imp clarify for me please

[old imp]

People like using snipers because it takes skill, like unparalled to ar/smg, so if they succeed with snipers it makes them look cool

[quartz swift]

Reset every 2.5 seconds? Sure

[spring osprey]

So ar/smg takes less skill than snipers but still takes skill, yes?

[old imp]

Pretty much, I feel like a meta weapon can give good performance even in subpar player's hands, not the case for sniper which needs extremely above average skill

[old imp]

Yes, far less skill though

[quartz swift]

The skill you put into a sniper can easily convert to an ar or smg. “Snipers are not special”

[old imp]

Because most of it is point and click

[spring osprey]

This i would disagree with, purely by my own experience. The gun can’t truly carry

[old imp]

And some dodgy movement, which if you are a sniper player should be easy

[old imp]

But something like hvk30 or em2 will put in a lot of work for you compared to tundra or dlq or locus

[spring osprey]

So many people just slapped random attachments on mg42 and thought it could make up for their crap gamesense

[quartz swift]

“The gun can’t truly carry” yes indeed. It makes your chances higher at winning the gunfight

[wind surge]

Anybody else having trouble with getting qualification points for championship?

[spring osprey]

See above

Like yes the drh or the hvk or whatever is a good gun

[old imp]

Yes, for example I was used to M13 needing 5sk body, switching to drh which is not even a super super strong meta was very liberating

[ancient roost]

For the rewards?

[spring osprey]

But take the average player in codm and that gun will need to be possessed by Jesus himself to carry them

[old imp]

Mow thermite:

Although thermite is pretty outlier

[spring osprey]

Do you even know how many people off themselves when they’re behind cover? It would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic

[quartz swift]

How do we get this straight

[spring osprey]

So I’ll summarize my point with this

[dawn glade]

I'm gettin dookied on by cordites bruh😭😭😭😭 (said dookie cuz idk if I can cuss)

[wind surge]

I play ranked matches and I win from time to time but haven’t gotten any points for any matches won, it shows 0/0/0 and says 0/50

[quartz swift]

Yes

[spring osprey]

Use of meta guns can enhance your gameplay, but overall you are the deciding factor

[dawn glade]

All of sudden ig

[old imp]

not bad

[ancient roost]

Bruh how's that possible 💀

[quartz swift]

We’re getting somewhere

[ancient roost]

I literally got all of them from ranked

[old imp]

Your deciding factor plays a much bigger role in snipers than in ar/smg

[wind surge]

No clue

[spring osprey]

Relating back to the original issue of snipers take more skill than ars or smgs, i would qualify that statement.

[plush zealot]

huh. M13 is better than DR H?

[dawn glade]

Real that's jus not possible

[old imp]

For cordite? you can run red dot sight if you don't like it

[quartz swift]

If you are the deciding factor. And your skill is decent with snipers. Your playing with smgs and ars will be far above average

[plush zealot]

alright, felt like we're getting trolled.

[old imp]

No, drh is better, but i didnt realise how much difference a 5sk and a 3sk could be

[quartz swift]

On the surface of it

[old imp]

Esp considering m13 fire rate

[spring osprey]

Snipers take a lot of skill, and more skill than some can provide. But put the r9-0 in the hands of some world chat schmuck and see how it goes for them

[old imp]

grau has like 0 of everything recoil related so

[quartz swift]

Which type

[spring osprey]

Overall I would sort of agree with snipers taking more skill. Sometimes. One taps can be noob friendly

[old imp]

I think shotgun one taps are much friendlier than sniper one taps

[spring osprey]

I still think the damn war you and grass were having was ridiculous and confused the issue

[old imp]

Noob friendlier

[quartz swift]

Let’s also use the example of shotguns. It’s more accurate

[spring osprey]

I agree because hip fire

[old imp]

Also, actual close range potential where you can one shot k9 and kinetic armour without having to aim that much

[quartz swift]

A shotgun can 1 shot kill. And benefits a lot from movement. By default. The aim needed for a shotgun is much more than that of an smg for the same style

[plush zealot]

you just need good timing and position. The rest is whatever you like to do.
This can be a good influence to AR and SMG.

[old imp]

no way kith meta video out time to copy

[spring osprey]

Sniping was def helpful for teaching me gamesense, which made me better with ars and smgs. Thats a point i think you made earlier @old imp

[quartz swift]

Comparing the styles. An ar can be flexible and so can a sniper. A better for any situation within a certain range is the ar. But a better for nearly every range provided the skill is a sniper

Short range? Sniper
Long range? Sniper
Mid range? Sniper

What a balance

[spring osprey]

I live for snipers that run quick fix

Can we get a shoutout to the ego of snipers?

[old imp]

Thats a point

[quartz swift]

Okay we’re clear

[spring osprey]

That hit flinch from mg42 has them shooting the sun

[old imp]

its like if you imagine Raging cactus aim + movement on Hvk30

[mellow kayak]

any of y'all wanna 1v1?

[old imp]

Well he already aced a garena squad with a makarov so

[vague sage]

Nice name Firahel

[spring osprey]

But huzzah the second we were willing to break down the issue like rational people we actually got somewhere

[spring osprey]

Ty lol

[quartz swift]

The easier gun right now yields better results provided your skill

[spring osprey]

Down for a 1v20 as long as you’re the 1

[old imp]

whoa zibros is cooking up really weird builds in this new kith video

[vague sage]

Also, it's true that a new completionist camo got leaked?

[mellow kayak]

i indeed, am

[spring osprey]

Speaking of guns requiring skill I’m gonna start trying the r9-0

[spring osprey]

Damn i was joking and you were not

• rep

[mellow kayak]

[plush zealot]

Skill doesn't necessarily influence what's meta and not.
It's as to which gun is better. Thus putting Tundra on the top.

That's all. Imma hop for today.

[mellow kayak]

@spring osprey up to 1v1

[spring osprey]

o7

[mellow kayak]

kinda practicing a new snes

so i gotta get used to it ykyk

[spring osprey]

I mean sure but I suck

Is it snipers? I’ll have to pass if it is

[mellow kayak]

all good
ill try to snipe you use whatever

[mellow kayak]

nuh
i snipe you anything

[spring osprey]

I’ll use r90

[quartz swift]

The skill needed for a certain gun provided the other variant is easier to utilize for the same results was the point

“Using snipers improved my movement and game sense and made me better at using ars and smgs”

[mellow kayak]

bet
that's gonna be actually fun
give ign/uid

[old imp]

Why does kith not count thermite rounds for manowar

[spring osprey]

It’s Firahel

[mellow kayak]

alr

imma send rn

[spring osprey]

Kk hopping on

[mellow kayak]

sent

[old imp]

wow bruh mg42 not in top 15

[vague sage]

[ancient roost]

real

did y'all get the mythic?

[mellow kayak]

@spring osprey gg

[spring osprey]

Gg! That was actually a lot of fun

[mellow kayak]

def

sens feeling good

missing some easy shots but meh

[spring osprey]

You hit some wild shots lmao

[mellow kayak]

gyro frfr

[spring osprey]

More’n a few times i had to pause for a second lol

Good stuff

[mellow kayak]

xd

hmmmmm
lets do another one

try autos against me now

let's see how that goes

[spring osprey]

Perhaps another time? Boutta start a diff game with a friend n it’s gon be a minute

[mellow kayak]

dang alr

I'll probs sleep soon

[spring osprey]

And i’d get cooked with ars

[mellow kayak]

6:30am

[spring osprey]

Worse ttk than shotguns

[spring osprey]

Damn all nighter?

[mellow kayak]

XD

[mellow kayak]

accidentally but yeah

came back from work at 1

and didn't sleep

[spring osprey]

Oof

[mellow kayak]

mhm

[spring osprey]

Will have a good one

Well*

[mellow kayak]

thanks you too fam

[old imp]

man i love kilo

such a solid weapon

[icy valve]

Agreed

[spring osprey]

Wish I liked kilo

Good irons

[icy valve]

I’m pretty sure type 19 is better tho

[spring osprey]

Tbh it just felt too slow to kill for me compared to my beloved qxr

[icy valve]

Makes sense. Ur comparing the fire rate of an ar to an smg

[spring osprey]

Yyep

My brain is wired to love guns similar to qxr and hdr

[icy valve]

What do you like about the qxr?

[spring osprey]

Kilo is far from both

[icy valve]

I never used either one before

[spring osprey]

Shooting noise, the shake of the gun

[dawn glade]

Huh that's actually crazy

[spring osprey]

It has good ttk, i’ve gotten so used to it’s recoil i can hit 30+ meter kills with it

[icy valve]

[spring osprey]

Extension of my arm

Or fingers i suppose eh

[icy valve]

Is it worth it to try and get used to more than thumbs?

[dawn glade]

I used to play 9 finger

[icy valve]

I only use thumbs

[dawn glade]

But I play 4 now

[spring osprey]

I’m considering 3 finger claw

[icy valve]

How does that work?

[spring osprey]

Feeling the limits of thumbs more and more now

[spring osprey]

Thumb for movement, thumb for looking/ads, left index for shoot buttons

[icy valve]

I’m thinking of getting one of those phone grip things that kind of turn ur phone into a controller

[dawn glade]

Dont

[spring osprey]

Backbones?

[icy valve]

Why?

[spring osprey]

They put you in controller lobbies, the limits of backbone are much harder than the limits of fingers

And also a lot of them just suck

[dawn glade]

Yeah that reason

[icy valve]

Its not connected to the phone tho

[spring osprey]

Like straight garbage

[dawn glade]

It's still gonna detect it as a controller

[spring osprey]

Even w/o controller lobbies you have loads less flexibility with backbone than fingers

[icy valve]

K

I guess I’ll try to learn how to play 4 finger

[dawn glade]

Yeah jus try to find perfect placement for ur fingers and ur sens and practice wit the ai or jus play real matches

[icy valve]

My only problem is idk how to place my index fingers. I feel like I’m using the side of my finger instead of my fingertip

[spring osprey]

Same

[icy valve]

I use both of my thumbs for movement. One for the joystick and one for changing which direction I’m looking. Then I quickly switch to ads for fighting. I’m way too slow tho

[dawn glade]

If u want u can look at how other ppl play 4 fingers on youtube or sum tips and tricks

[icy valve]

First time I saw was how aerith holds her phone. That’s the only time I’ve seen 4 finger.

[spring osprey]

Like 99.9% of them have their phone flat on the table/desk, is that just… required?

[icy valve]

Fr? I need to hold my phone so that wont work for me at all

[dawn glade]

Hold ur phone if u don't have a good holder

[spring osprey]

A good holder?

Oh

[icy valve]

What? Like a phone stand?

[dawn glade]

Yeah I meant that

[icy valve]

Ah

[spring osprey]

Same tech as like a pop socket but like. Anything

God I’m devolving. Like twice in one sentence?

[icy valve]

Yea but pop socket isn’t a stand

[spring osprey]

A sentence about pop sockets no less

[icy valve]

Nvm it could be

[spring osprey]

But like the same idea

[icy valve]

Yea I get it

I’m imagining one of those iPhone charger stands

[dawn glade]

So how I play 4 finger I hold my tablet and I use my index finger to shoot jump crouch aim and use the operator skills and move with thumb and aim wit thumb

I play on a tab but it's kinda the same on phone jus a smaller screen

[minor knoll]

Who pinged me

[icy valve]

Wdym move? You don’t need to change the direction ur facing?

How do you move with only one finger?

[dawn glade]

Someone idk their name but the text got deleted

[icy valve]

I need two for movement. One for joystick and one for what I’m facing

[minor knoll]

I see

[dawn glade]

Oh mb I mean move with one of my thumbs and turn wit my other one

[spring osprey]

So like left thumb for joystick. Right thumb for looking. Index for what you said

[dawn glade]

Yeh

[spring osprey]

I’ll try that

[dawn glade]

If I was level five I would have sent a pic of my hud

[spring osprey]

Dm me?

[icy valve]

My hud is trash. Can you dm me urs too plz

[spring osprey]

Lol

[dawn glade]

Sure

[spring osprey]

“We seek wisdom”

[dawn glade]

Alr imma find a pic of it

[icy valve]

Lol agreed

The only things I did to my hud were edit the button sizes for my big fingers

And moved around the jump and crouch button

[dawn glade]

Alr imma dm both of u it

[icy valve]

Ty

[old imp]

man mg42 spam is getting kinda annoying

[quartz swift]

Kinda???

[old imp]

Im gc

It has ridiculous ttk

[spring osprey]

I haven’t had an issue because the mg42 spammers i ran into are worse than me and have worse smiths

[old imp]

I was tryna use my m13

[spring osprey]

The second theres a competent mg42 player i’m cooked

[old imp]

got smoked

The foot dps is like m13 normal dps

[spring osprey]

Melee range so they can’t ads in time

Only answer

[old imp]

Yeah ig

[wheat berry]

Finally reached legendary in just 2 days

[spring osprey]

Gz man. Damn

[wheat berry]

Now I'm gonna work on battle royale lol

[spring osprey]

You down to carry?

[river nimbus]

Wow pls tell me how to reach legendary fast 😭🙏🙏

[wheat berry]

I had 16 kills in a ranked match I basically carried my entire team

On snd

[wheat berry]

Don't have work

[wheat berry]

Play alot

That's it

[river nimbus]

ok

i keep losing in rank

i lost my aim

[wheat berry]

Plus I have to play Roblox after codm everyday

[wheat berry]

I got some no recoil guns if you want

[icy valve]

Dam

[river nimbus]

ill prob just try to get my aim back

[dawn glade]

Imma jus talk abt codm things til I reach lvl 5

[river nimbus]

if i do

[spring osprey]

Have you ever died to d13? Random question but

[wheat berry]

Let's see how codm treats you

[river nimbus]

👍

[spring osprey]

What’s your top five favorite guns and why

Quick shoot go

[icy valve]

Never. It’s a joke name lol. DJ gave the idea so I took it

[spring osprey]

Yep i saw just wanted to ask

[wheat berry]

Can someone tell me what came in the bp vault I didn't notice anything new or is my codm glitched or did I already have the season

[spring osprey]

Happened to me once. Deeply humbling

[icy valve]

Lol I never died from d13

[icy valve]

If it makes you feel better I accidentally killed myself once with my own c4

[wheat berry]

Every start match of Nuketown is throwing grenades

[river nimbus]

i died like multiple times with it 😭

[dawn glade]

1Grau is number 1 its op
2dlq I'm cracked wit it
3 cx9 mad damage tbh
4 koshka idk jus like it
5 drh bottom cuz I jus barely use it

[spring osprey]

The people who dont chuck lethals in nuketown scare me

Not in an intimidating way but like a “u good?” Way

[wheat berry]

Is my name scary it's MadCrybaby

[old imp]

use type 19 its a better grau ongolly

[ancient roost]

What modes did u play

[spring osprey]

I’d be afraid if i saw you on my team fs

[dawn glade]

Rly alr imma test it out

[icy valve]

That would be me. I forget I have lethals and tacticals

[old imp]

U can even run red dot if u want

[wheat berry]

Attack of the Undead gives 999 exp

[dawn glade]

Alr

[dawn glade]

Aotd was my favorite game mode 😭😭

[ancient roost]

💀

[spring osprey]

Aotd is fun for the first two games and then it’s just the same exact thing over n over again

[wheat berry]

Same but now it's just filled with a bunch of noobs

[spring osprey]

Gets dry fast

[icy valve]

Nvm

[ancient roost]

Attack Of The Undead

[river nimbus]

bro the mg42 has to be the most broken gun ever (for me)

[dawn glade]

It is rn

[wheat berry]

Search and rescue is the worst gamemode

[ancient roost]

It is atm

Destroy lol

[wheat berry]

It's so annyoing even the noobs can kill a pro

[ancient roost]

Only if they're camping

It's a time consuming mode but it's good

[grim pagoda]

someone know how to get more weapon xp cards😔

[dawn glade]

Yeah also have the ai in rank gotten better I swr one of my good ahh teammates got sniped by one

[icy valve]

Play

[wheat berry]

Then when I'm the last one standing they start reviving there teammates and turns out a 4v1

[grim pagoda]

i do that

and then

i get like 6

[dawn glade]

I got like 500 rn

[wheat berry]

Bro mp bots are making me mad I can't get a nuke they manage to kill me even from such a long range

[grim pagoda]

😡

[wheat berry]

Bro the bots got buffed ong

[icy valve]

Keep playing. Or complete tasks or buy

[dawn glade]

Did that to flex tbh

[grim pagoda]

🤫🧏🏾‍♂️

[icy valve]

I used all of mine on guns. I thought I had a ton then I got stuck on hvk 😞

[wheat berry]

It's such an achievement of doggo dying by a bot

[dawn glade]

Damn I remember I was trolling in a discord call and wasted all on a axe😭😭😭

[wheat berry]

How much cp does everyone have

I have 2937

[dawn glade]

I'm broke😭😭

[steady steppe]

i got 10k +

cards

[spring osprey]

Just play a lot with guns you have maxxed

[wheat berry]

Is the mythic free fire good

[spring osprey]

Play like an hour a day for a week you’ll break 5k easy

[dawn glade]

Free fire?

[wheat berry]

Ffar*

[steady steppe]

yes

[dawn glade]

Oh

[spring osprey]

I don’t like it. Weirdly bulky looking

[wheat berry]

That triangles lookin gun or Something

Yea is the orange mythic skin good of it

[steady steppe]

missing out

[wheat berry]

I hope lotus flames never comes out

So y'all can suffer

[spring osprey]

Dlq with tac sprint feels so wrong

[icy valve]

I tried it and it was nice

[spring osprey]

Rare occasion that i pick one up the tac sprint makes me wanna puke

[dawn glade]

Tried it on a test server it's pretty good

[wheat berry]

Bro is it just me or the holiday dlqq deals 90 damage everytime but the default dlqq skin kills a player everytime

[spring osprey]

Gun itself 10/10 fire mythic

[icy valve]

I picked it up off the ground in nuketown hp

[wheat berry]

I think something wrong with the holiday dlqq

[dawn glade]

Nah it's prolly jus the attachments it has if u don't change them

[wheat berry]

I changed them to 30 mobilty

[dawn glade]

Damn so sumthin is wrong

[old imp]

Aim

[wheat berry]

Yeah I forgot I did aim at her chest

[grim pagoda]

i just got so much

[wheat berry]

And there private part and they don't die

[grim pagoda]

🤑

[wheat berry]

What a logic

[grim pagoda]

@icy valve thxsugar bugar pookie bookie bear

[dawn glade]

Alr guys since I want lvl 5 imma jus say sum codm characters

[icy valve]

What?

[dawn glade]

Manta ray

[wheat berry]

Such a sexy lady

[dawn glade]

Park

[wheat berry]

Ugly as hell

[dawn glade]

Mara

[wheat berry]

Trash

[icy valve]

@grim pagoda you good?

[dawn glade]

Dusk

[wheat berry]

Adorable

[dawn glade]

Battery

[wheat berry]

Hell no the no no no

[icy valve]

Special ops 1

[wheat berry]

Smash

[icy valve]

[wheat berry]

I'ma smash crosby

[icy valve]

🤣

[dawn glade]

Damn it I forgot characters

[icy valve]

Merc 5

[dawn glade]

Oh well let's see if I'm level 5

[wheat berry]

Idiot forgot wraith scylla

[dawn glade]

Yeah u right

[icy valve]

Almost there

[wheat berry]

Silver

[spring osprey]

Ghost

Any of em

[icy valve]

Nomad

[spring osprey]

Thats my question to you

[dawn glade]

Captain price I'm hitting bruh

Onb

[wheat berry]

Ramirez solos ghost

[icy valve]

What’s the worst gun in the entire game?

[wheat berry]

Who wanna be carried I aced 5 times in a snd ranked match

[dawn glade]

Xpr😭😭

[wheat berry]

I'm basically rush senpai

[icy valve]

I have a hard time believing that

There’s gotta be worse ones

[wheat berry]

Na 45 this hard

[halcyon violet]

wrong

worst gun in game is d13 btw

[icy valve]

What you think the worst gun is?

[halcyon violet]

second worst is nail gun

third worst is shorty

[icy valve]

I mean primary not secondary

[dawn glade]

Nail gun 2 shots for me wdym😭😭

[wheat berry]

Why the gun name shorty feels like I wanna say it again

Like it's a woman fr

[halcyon violet]

no it doesn't

[spring osprey]

I think overall I would say hg40

[halcyon violet]

it's literally a clone of lcar but some stats are worse and you can't add attachments

[icy valve]

What’s the worst primary gun in the game*

[halcyon violet]

it's objectively worse than lcar past 2m

[wheat berry]

It takes like 15 shots wdym bruh

[spring osprey]

I have never seen a single human being use the hg40

[halcyon violet]

jak 12

[dawn glade]

For me it does prolly cuz I aim at the head wit it anywhere else its bad

[spring osprey]

Beam

[icy valve]

I have. They’re trash tho

[spring osprey]

Jak12 2 taps to like 25 meters

[river nimbus]

guys better auto pistol dovbra 👍 L-CAR 🎅

[icy valve]

Lcar is better

[dawn glade]

Alr now what is the best weapon in the game

[icy valve]

Tundra 🏃‍♂️

Idk

[river nimbus]

true

[spring osprey]

Impossible to say too many different styles

[wheat berry]

I don't have a championship team

I'm a lone wolf

[icy valve]

Counting snipers or no?

[icy valve]

Same bro

[ancient roost]

Snipers are always overpowered

[river nimbus]

the best weapon is only your opinion

[icy valve]

No

[dawn glade]

Yeah

[icy valve]

I think hvk is best not including snipers

[wheat berry]

Guys how to kill people in codm

[dawn glade]

I'm close to lvl 5 now imma jus say codm thing

[wheat berry]

Y'all wanna know something

[dawn glade]

Nuketown

[icy valve]

Press the shoot button

[ancient roost]

Don't kill

Just kiss them

[dawn glade]

Shipment

[spring osprey]

I recommend bullets they tend to do the job

[wheat berry]

What if it's a manta ray skin guy

[icy valve]

Hacienda

[dawn glade]

Hackney yard

[wheat berry]

Smash then

[icy valve]

Oasis

[dawn glade]

Hijacked

[icy valve]

Alcatraz

Standoff

[dawn glade]

Nuketown russia

[wheat berry]

Standoff raid shadow legends god of war

[spring osprey]

Wait we talking best or worst maps

[dawn glade]

Shoot house

[icy valve]

Just shoot off map names

[ancient roost]

Dude standoff remastered is kinda' mid

[spring osprey]

Takeoff

[icy valve]

Crossroad strike

[spring osprey]

Slums

[ancient roost]

Apocalypse

[spring osprey]

Icebreaker

[vague sage]

I can't even see my enemies fr

[wheat berry]

Fr the corner camping spots have increased size

[icy valve]

What’s the train one?

[ancient roost]

Ikr?

[spring osprey]

Express?

[icy valve]

Ye

[ancient roost]

Yeah

[vague sage]

They just blend with everything

[icy valve]

Raid

[spring osprey]

Whats the uhh. The one with vents and automatic doors

[dawn glade]

I always die to the train in express😭😭

[ancient roost]

Frrr

[wheat berry]

Isolates

[spring osprey]

Firing range

[spring osprey]

No

[dawn glade]

The airport map?

Like wit the plane

[halcyon violet]

shh, that map doesn't exist

[spring osprey]

No thats terminal

[halcyon violet]

absolutely terrible map

[spring osprey]

Look i like the vents okay its fun

Awful map but yeah

[icy valve]

Armada strike (if someone didn’t say it)

[halcyon violet]

you can't even reach the first hp before it unlocks lmao

no

[spring osprey]

Scrapyard 2019

[wheat berry]

You talking about coastal

[spring osprey]

Hovec sawmill

[spring osprey]

No

[sharp root]

guys which one is the best among type 19 em2 and ffar

[river nimbus]

worst has to be
1 Oasis
2 Hijack
3 miami city (i think thats how you spell)
4 crossroad strike
5 standoff
this my opinion

[spring osprey]

Different playstyles incomparable

[halcyon violet]

It's Arsenal

[spring osprey]

Miama strike is so bad

[icy valve]

Oasis is good

[river nimbus]

not really

[spring osprey]

Yea! Ty

[dawn glade]

Fr

[wheat berry]

Y'all wanna know something

[willow wave]

Bro who's good at marksmens? I need to be humbled real quick.

[sharp root]

well which ones more consistent in mid range fights?

[spring osprey]

Only thing that everyone can agree on is miami strike being pure cancer

[icy valve]

Find an sks user

[wheat berry]

I managed to shoot snowman's with a gun instead of a stabbing them with a knife in snowball shuffle mode

[spring osprey]

Define mid range. 20-30 meters?

[wheat berry]

I got killed at the last second and it made me have a gun

[spring osprey]

15-25?

[willow wave]

I meant like not the sks

[dawn glade]

Imma jus say sum things till I'm lvl 5

Coffee

[sharp root]

yea

[dawn glade]

Soda

Pepsi