codm-discussion-💫

[spring osprey]

“Low ttk” even though it one taps at close range if you have burst

Double nuked in hp earlier with it, W gun

[atomic bronze]

Cuz auto and semi are trash

Burst is good tho

[quartz swift]

It doesn’t make any sense why a semi only 3 shots in the first range

Only the burst they did it right

[willow wave]

how did u even get it that fast

still

aint it in tier 21

[wraith imp]

is that amax

wait no amax has a curve

which type

[willow wave]

that makes sense

classic or siege?

hard?

it gives so much bp exp

even more than br

do daytime kills count for camo grind?

we need alcatraz zombie

we actually need a good zombie mode

[vital plank]

hi

[unborn jay]

Hello

[tired flame]

Would be a nice change of pace

[steady imp]

ffar can’t be meta

[sinful night]

Any one down for br duo

[tired flame]

It's not

Lol

[steady imp]

everyone saying it is but like recoil is horrible and so is damage drop off

[tired flame]

Yea that's cus they prolly rush with it

But who knows lol

[opaque hemlock]

How about a solo Is good it's I think bro

[steady imp]

idk how but I feel like ak got buffed

[tired flame]

Idk

[tired flame]

Uh ....

I think it did last season

Or a few seasons ago at least

It was recent

[steady imp]

feels faster

[tired flame]

As in?

Mobility? Fire rate?

[paper torrent]

Either you haven't used thst gun in a while or what cz it did not get a buff in any sense of what you said

[tired flame]

Guess it didn't lol

[paper torrent]

Fire rate hell no that's only applicable if you apply the 5.45 rifle mag

[tired flame]

I've just used it to counter drh

[paper torrent]

I use drh to counter drh

[tired flame]

Eh

[steady imp]

prob haven’t used in a while but it’s still goated

[tired flame]

It's pretty good still

And u got the red action, nice

[vast wolf]

Hehe

[willow wave]

wallbang knowledge

[paper torrent]

That's the thing the AK-47 wasn't much used but it's a mid 3 tap guns that are used rn is drh and manowar

Shockingly the striker 45 isn't useless

[stray gull]

Anyone got KEK-9 build ?

For reference

[atomic bronze]

It is meta rn

[wicked stirrup]

Burst repeater
Taskforce
50r
Then 2 preference slots

[atomic bronze]

Burst muzzle
Taskforce barrel
Raider stock
Striker fg
Ext mag/field grip

[wicked stirrup]

One of them shud be strafe stock

[wicked stirrup]

Wowie

Kek 9 beeld

[atomic bronze]

What

[wicked stirrup]

Kek 9 beeld

[acoustic girder]

Wsg

[paper torrent]

Kek 9 fooni

[atomic bronze]

Nth cleaning up idiots as usual

[quick sundial]

Kek 9 is smg of al time

[vapid halo]

Are ak117 from pitch black crate good?

[tired flame]

eh

its alr

not as good as the archtoxin

[vapid halo]

Damn

I don't think we getting of cbr mythic draw anytime soon

[torpid arrow]

Sometimes I wonder how idiots can get to Legend

[indigo pasture]

lattice better anyways

[vapid halo]

Ik

But ak117

[haughty igloo]

ferg is the biggest clown ever

garbage gun ratings

[vapid halo]

Truee

Bro placed drh as the best gun because of nostalgia basically 😭☠️

[haughty igloo]

"the drh is the best gun in the geeaaeme btw did you know i have my own skin on it? yeah i do have my own skin on it my own skin is ameieazin and dont forget.... I have my own skien on it"

[haughty igloo]

no because his ego is big and he has his own skin of it

the drh is good yes but not the best

[atomic bronze]

Lmao how do you think stat anlysts feel ab his lists?

[stray gull]

@wicked stirrup @atomic bronze thanks , both of you

[haughty igloo]

they'd just laugh

[torpid arrow]

iFerg has a huge ego tho fr

[stray gull]

Nostalgic DR-H is smth else , sure it doesn't 2 shot headshot people.
But you get what i meant

[atomic bronze]

Yes we do

[atomic bronze]

Np

[haughty igloo]

and an ugly gf

[indigo pasture]

nah drh is ass now i swear ☠️

[atomic bronze]

Barbie plastic

[indigo pasture]

or i was having a rough time yesterday

[haughty igloo]

not really...?

[haughty igloo]

LMAO

[stray gull]

If i given a chance to pick 1 Mythic blueprint , i would choose Krig-6 Ice Drake

[haughty igloo]

ok in br and good in mp

[indigo pasture]

it was so bad i even switched from the leggy drh to default drh then started playing flex and used mp7

[atomic bronze]

Our rection is either laughing ir crying

[tired flame]

holger for me

cus im starting to like the holger

and its pretty good too

[haughty igloo]

it's an lmg bro 😭

[stray gull]

Holger still good suprisingly although not as overpowered as it was back then

[tired flame]

so?

its good

[tired flame]

true

[indigo pasture]

krig or fennec mythic fs

[stray gull]

It's good and more balanced compared to what it was

[stray gull]

I would pick krig

[potent sky]

m13

[haughty igloo]

if there's 1 mythic I'd want it would be the fennec

[torpid arrow]

Mythic NA45 release when

[tired flame]

never

[indigo pasture]

locus mythic when

[torpid arrow]

do it

[atomic bronze]

It has been meta for long time

[indigo pasture]

that dlq getting to much love

[haughty igloo]

do you think codm will ever make multiple mythics of the same gun or keep doing mythic of the new gun

[tired flame]

cus its good

[atomic bronze]

Dlq doesnt deserve it anyway its relatively bad

[tired flame]

they wont

[stray gull]

Y'all whinning bout when NA-45 mythic but completely forgot bout NA-45 - Dragon Dance

[vapid halo]

Nah it was like

[tired flame]

1 mythic per gun

[indigo pasture]

it had a mythic and so many legendary bps

[atomic bronze]

I think they will do of new guns. 1 mythic per gun

[torpid arrow]

Nah I got most NA45 skins already

I want a mythic one

[stray gull]

Do you even have Dragon Dance ?

[indigo pasture]

i didn’t even know a na45 leggy existed

that’s crazy

[stray gull]

I would tip a hat off if you had the Dragon Dance NA

[torpid arrow]

Don’t know don’t care I want a mythic one

[drifting osprey]

They should remove getting muted ingame

[haughty igloo]

why do youtubers always say the new gun is the best gun in the game

ig they just need a video title

[drifting osprey]

Clickbait

[indigo pasture]

because for a while it was but also clickbait

[haughty igloo]

what

[indigo pasture]

the recent guns have all been either meh or garbage

[haughty igloo]

oh

[drifting osprey]

I want to nicely chat with people in codm man

But game always mutes me

[haughty igloo]

world chat?

[stray gull]

There's no best gun in CoDM like literally

There's only Competitive ( Meta ) guns

Best guns are ehh subjective

[drifting osprey]

Voice chat

I get muted

[haughty igloo]

ahem hard r usage

[torpid arrow]

Red dot iron sight RUS

[stray gull]

Anything that feels comfortable for ya is the best for ya

[vapid halo]

Cx9, type19, Argus, tundra:

[opaque hemlock]

Bruh why too tired of typing

[stray gull]

Pay to wi--

[cyan nest]

Knowing CODM community they'd be pissed all over the mats reading whatever you said but true

[torpid arrow]

Oh your live on twitch? Slurs slurs slurs

[stray gull]

Spittin facts

[torpid arrow]

It is

Don’t even remember how I got this

[haughty igloo]

never used twitch in my life

[indigo pasture]

that’s a rare knife

[torpid arrow]

Nah you don’t know the meme search it up lmao

[drifting osprey]

They should remove proximity chat in codm @indigo pasture

[indigo pasture]

only tundra and cx9 stand out

[haughty igloo]

what meme lmao

[indigo pasture]

type 19 is just graus big brother

[torpid arrow]

Search it “TF2 your live on twitch?” On YouTube

[stray gull]

There's no such thing as THE best gun
As BEST is Subjective
Although like you said ,
Telling this statement to the community is as difficult as telling someone to stop abusing KRM & Gung-Ho combo

[indigo pasture]

remove or add

[vapid halo]

Argus is awesome too

[drifting osprey]

I want to say n word to my enemies every game

[stray gull]

Based Shotgun.

[cyan nest]

HEhehe

[drifting osprey]

N word=noob

Ok guys

[vapid halo]

I'm planning on getting myself that hellhound chopper rn

[tired flame]

cant

[torpid arrow]

JAK12 is a menace to society

[tired flame]

its not in the fyp

[opaque hemlock]

Who want n word pass

[drifting osprey]

Me

[vapid halo]

It's in for you rn

Awesome skin

[opaque hemlock]

Ok here noob

[torpid arrow]

[tired flame]

when did they add it?

[vapid halo]

Not so long ago

[torpid arrow]

130 ms and still dominating

[tired flame]

cus i didnt see it in there

and i checked a week ago

[vapid halo]

Yesterday I think

[opaque hemlock]

It's loooooooooooong time ago

[vapid halo]

When season launched

[tired flame]

odd

[vapid halo]

Also sks death spear

Pineapple em2

[stray gull]

Wait the FRAG-12 ammo on JAK-12 in this game doesn't have one shot potential like in Modern Warfare ?

[tired flame]

deathlancer

[opaque hemlock]

2 or3 days ago I get the new season

[vapid halo]

Hg ghoul bound

[drifting osprey]

Legendary locus skin ranking
Electron
demonic
neptune
cat

[torpid arrow]

Nah just use the 20rnd mag attachment

[vapid halo]

I might get it too

[stray gull]

My disappointment is immeasurable

[opaque hemlock]

Think locus turn into a lmg 😂😂

[stray gull]

FRAG-12 can't one shot someone

[tired flame]

nah

[stray gull]

Unlike in MW

[tired flame]

ppl just make trash builds with it

[torpid arrow]

Nah JAK12 is low key abuse no one uses it

[opaque hemlock]

Yo can troll them with shotgun

[stray gull]

Somehow they discounted the largest Extended mag too
From 32 round in MW to 25 in CoDM

[opaque hemlock]

I uses for troll loadout

[stray gull]

Can't roleplay as Hale Caesar from Expendables

[potent sky]

@torpid arrowi use it with Echo lol

[vapid halo]

Slide build

[stray gull]

I wonder if developers gonna add Specialist Mode

Swapping Scorestreak for 3 extra perks , having 6 perks in total

[tired flame]

prolly not

[stray gull]

Prolly maybe shouldn't

Gung-Ho & Quick-Fix at the same time is scary

[opaque hemlock]

What's worst perk in codm

[tired flame]

idk

[opaque hemlock]

????¿?????¿??¿?¿????

[willow wave]

Gung ho cold blooded would be wild

[atomic bronze]

Id argue jak is better than oden

[leaden citrus]

[eternal iron]

ghosts had a really interesting perk system that was never used in any other game

you could take like 2 really good perks or like 6 weaker ones

[stray gull]

That's similar to specialist

Although MW2019 Specialist was probably the most Overpowered one imo due to being able to pick the same tier perks for the extras

[atomic bronze]

You want me to?

[leaden citrus]

Just a bad opinion

[wicked stirrup]

Add semi auto shotguns

[leaden citrus]

Ur chill

[wicked stirrup]

[leaden citrus]

[wicked stirrup]

We havent gotten any for the past 4 years

[leaden citrus]

We need a gw

Not semi auto on shotguns

[wicked stirrup]

We need semi auto shotguns.

Spas 12
Benelli m4
Saiga 12

[haughty igloo]

ok I can truthfully say I've never said that many hard R's consecutively in my life

[wicked stirrup]

@atomic bronze

[haughty igloo]

loadout?

[atomic bronze]

Yes?

[wicked stirrup]

@atomic bronze

[atomic bronze]

Why. Jak 12 has much better consistency than oden while having same range since oden needs 1 chest and jak doesnt need anything it 2 sjots entire body

[atomic bronze]

Add spaz

[wicked stirrup]

Ye, add spas

Hot italian gun

[atomic bronze]

Jak 12 is actuallx rly good besides the bsa

[haughty igloo]

bro you can do 5 damage from 5 meters with the jak

[wicked stirrup]

Slug rounds

[wicked stirrup]

But full auto

[haughty igloo]

EW

[wicked stirrup]

[haughty igloo]

who uses slugs?

[atomic bronze]

Lets clear something up you and @leaden citrus we are talking slugs

[atomic bronze]

On jak? Anyone with a brain

[haughty igloo]

are they as trash as other shotguns?

[wicked stirrup]

Slug rounds jak is a consistent 2 tap to anywhere on the body

[haughty igloo]

hmmmm

aight I stand corrected guys my bad

[leaden citrus]

Im listening

[atomic bronze]

Uts basicly sks till 25 meters with while body 2 tap

[haughty igloo]

anyone got a loadout for the jak?

[wicked stirrup]

Slugs is worth it on jak and by, that's it

[atomic bronze]

Slug rounds
Flash guard
Tac fg a
Gran
Tac laser/steady stock

[wicked stirrup]

Stack bsa and recoil, use slugs

[remote nimbus]

I got bit of good movement

[wicked stirrup]

I'd run marauder, just for the supp and bsa

[atomic bronze]

It has whole body 2 shot while oden needs 1 chest. Jao has 2f slower ttk but 2 tap more often so its forgivable. Mobility better on jak too

[haughty igloo]

👍 thanks

[wicked stirrup]

Marauder
Slugs
Tac laser
Ranger fg
Maybe full ammo

[leaden citrus]

What abt consistency?

[wicked stirrup]

Full body iirc

2 tap anywhere

[leaden citrus]

Im cooked

[wicked stirrup]

Oden needs 1 to chest/arms

Problem with jak is magsize

[atomic bronze]

Bsa is only problem while having waaay better hitboxes than oden

[atomic bronze]

Oh yeah that too

[leaden citrus]

Im still using osen🗣️🗣️💯💯

[haughty igloo]

oden is too hard

[wicked stirrup]

Osen

[atomic bronze]

Oden can only compete with duplex

[haughty igloo]

just a grammar mistake chill

[wicked stirrup]

100 odenillion dmg

[haughty igloo]

anyone got a decent oden loadout as well? because I'm stumped

[leaden citrus]

“Osen” i cant even spell😪

[atomic bronze]

Colossus suppresor
Duplex mag
Short barrel
Combta stock
Gran/tac laser

[wicked stirrup]

Duplex
Colossal
Op fg
Rubberized
Combat

I like my recoil

[haughty igloo]

aight someone reccomended tactical for oden 💀

[eternal iron]

should i cop the ffar or oden mythic

[haughty igloo]

oden

[haughty igloo]

do you play mp or br more

[eternal iron]

mp

[haughty igloo]

then get the ffar

[carmine oxide]

Ffar

[haughty igloo]

oden is super powerful in br

not that great in mp tho

oden is top 2 AR in BR

[wicked stirrup]

Tbh, oden is overrated for br, ttk is fast, yes, but miss a single shot and your ttk gets sent to the shadow realm

[eternal iron]

pretty sure oden was buffed to do 2 shot to the chest in mp

[wicked stirrup]

[atomic bronze]

To upper arm which changes nth if you use duplex

[haughty igloo]

who's going to hit their shots from long range tho

[wicked stirrup]

S36 has practically the same ttk, but doesnt have fire rate problems

[haughty igloo]

gold long range + headshot you can afford to miss a couple

[haughty igloo]

that gun is overrated ngl

[atomic bronze]

S36 has same ttk while 3 times faster rpm

[eternal iron]

manowar thermite mag

[grave bison]

Which sniper rifle will be optimal for me in mp, if I'm an aggressive player and like to run around the map and shoot?

[wicked stirrup]

Nah, each missed shot is +140 ms to your ttk iirc

[wicked stirrup]

@atomic bronze 140 is correct?

And slower rpm means it's harder to correct your aim for the next shot

[wicked stirrup]

Tundra

[haughty igloo]

who's going to beat you tho? mid range you can hit almost all your shots and the enemy is bound to miss a few long range your enemy is going to have a hard time to hit their shots and you got a good chance of killing them

[atomic bronze]

145

[wicked stirrup]

Ic, ty

[grave bison]

And what if I'm a balanced sniper player who likes to be aggressive and defensive times depending upon the situation?

[haughty igloo]

it's not an easy gun

you can prefer the ak117 but any decent oden player will smack you

[wicked stirrup]

Also tundra, that thing is so busted

[grave bison]

Alright, gunsmith?

[wicked stirrup]

I dont, i prefer s36

[atomic bronze]

That is the tundra

[eternal iron]

the only time the ak117 is ever good is when a bot two taps you in the leg with it

[wicked stirrup]

Wallbang alot?

[haughty igloo]

😂

[grave bison]

What'll be the gunsmith parts?

[haughty igloo]

s36 is too overrated

[atomic bronze]

Any good s36 player will smack you*

[grave bison]

I don't mean that

[haughty igloo]

nah

[atomic bronze]

Do you wallbang?
Do you hardscope more than you quickscope?
Do you blankscope?

[eternal iron]

no seriously a bot killed me through a fence on highrise you can’t even see through 😭

[haughty igloo]

base oden could lose to s36 not mythic tho

[remote nimbus]

bruh someone put "❌" on my #codm-media messages

[haughty igloo]

not surprising

[grave bison]

Funny how I'm unaware about those terms.

[haughty igloo]

codm buffed bots and it's so gay

[remote nimbus]

BUFF??

[haughty igloo]

they used to take 30 seconds to kill you in BR and now they can kill you in 3

[remote nimbus]

oh br

[remote nimbus]

BR ONLY 💀

[eternal iron]

bots either don’t hit you at all or they can see you through the wall and laser beam you

[wicked stirrup]

Do you wallbang a lot?
If yes then
Tac supp
Tiger team barrel
Fmj
7r mag
Serpent tape

If not then
hammer forged
Tac supp
7r
Serpent tape
Bandit steady stock

You can swap serpent tape for airborne elastic tape if you plan to hardscope as well as quickscope

[haughty igloo]

not just BR fo sho

[remote nimbus]

can see you through the wall is a hacker

[remote nimbus]

for me idk how to wall bang

[remote nimbus]

also what gun is this

[wicked stirrup]

It's just predictions and dumb luck

[haughty igloo]

bots can quickscope with trash weapons at the speed of light and hit two headshots to kill you when you need 5 with that gun

[wicked stirrup]

Tundra

[atomic bronze]

Wallbanging shooting trough walls
Blankscoping shooting before you ads fully
Hardscoping is being passive

[remote nimbus]

OHHH

[eternal iron]

they do headshot damage everywhere they hit i’m pretty sure

[remote nimbus]

idk how to aim so hard scope 🥲

[haughty igloo]

blankscoping the same as quickscoping?

[eternal iron]

[remote nimbus]

but sometime can

[haughty igloo]

passive is the very definition of ferg

[atomic bronze]

No quickscoping you shoot when ads animation ends blankcsipeing you do before

[remote nimbus]

I move my aim

also I need to go lol

[haughty igloo]

plays around the side of maps and camps to kill trash players for easy nukes

[atomic bronze]

Use hdr then

[grave bison]

I usually blank scope in that case, hardscoping rarely

[wicked stirrup]

Blankscoping is when you fire before your gun fully ads-es

[atomic bronze]

Shooting trough walls?

[grave bison]

I sometimes quick scope too

[grave bison]

Nope not really

[haughty igloo]

oh alright

[atomic bronze]

Then what do you do if you sometimes quock and blanksvope but dont hardscope?
Anyway
Serpent wrap
Striker fg
Hammer forged barrel
Tac suppresor
7rnd mag

[wicked stirrup]

Anyways, im a bruen fanboy in br, for now

I hope mg42 be very good

Busted even

[grave bison]

Idk man, i dont play much sniper that's why I'm asking here

[haughty igloo]

that thing still gets beat by the ak117 😭

[wicked stirrup]

[haughty igloo]

that mythic looks crazy tho

[remote nimbus]

MAN WT-

[haughty igloo]

ak117 more aim assist easier to use and better iron sight

plus doesn't take 10 seconds to reload

or 9 seconds is it whatever

[atomic bronze]

You hardscope? Hdr is sniper for hardscoping

[wicked stirrup]

117 mfers when they get beamed from 80m by bruen

[wicked stirrup]

60r mag:

[haughty igloo]

hard to beam with bruen

[wicked stirrup]

Run optics

[wicked stirrup]

~3.5 iirc

[atomic bronze]

Lmao ak117 fanboy. Anyway no ak117 has subpar ttk,range, and bsa while brune has better that plud larger mag best bi in the game and disabled

[wicked stirrup]

False

[atomic bronze]

Lmao br players are so conservative. Its impossible to convince tbem

[wicked stirrup]

Bro never tried custom bruen

[haughty igloo]

not a fanboy but still dont think bruen can beat 117 if both players are equal

didn't think we were talking customs...

guess you forgot ground loot exists

[wicked stirrup]

We're talking customs

For groundloot use 117 ye

[atomic bronze]

Yes we were but okay

[wicked stirrup]

But custom bruen > custom 117

[haughty igloo]

my point

[haughty igloo]

aight then I'll take your word for it there but ground loot nah

[atomic bronze]

Ak117 id eou weapon while bruen id meta

[haughty igloo]

what

[atomic bronze]

Yes for custom use bruen lk amax m13 for main ar playstyle

[atomic bronze]

Eou-ease of use
Meta-most effective tactic available

[haughty igloo]

man I want that twisted visions amax so bad

[wicked stirrup]

Go try bruen in training

Summit
Optic (holo 2 with blue dot preferable)
Stalker stock
60r mag
Preference slot (disable, ranger fg, tac laser, ...)

Long shot
Mag mod
Vert recoil

[tired flame]

most likely not what its gonna look like, the mythic u saw was just a concept

[atomic bronze]

Whats vert recoil alt again. Precision thingy right?

[wicked stirrup]

It's just vertical recoil iirc

Muscle arm icon

Helps with recoil, leggy variant gives flinch resistance

[old imp]

hey gang whats a good red dot build/reg build for m13

[oblique oracle]

Outlaw Gunsmith anyone?

For Aggressive play

[old imp]

full ads + tac suppressor + 9 round

[steady steppe]

they added patrol back but made the br tourna skirmish

[wicked stirrup]

Red dot
Heavy barrel
Double stack
No stock
Gran

[old imp]

But outlaw has such a fast ads ngl u can sac some ads for like fmj or something

[steady steppe]

1 step forward 20 steps back

[old imp]

Ty i will go try it right now

[wicked stirrup]

Memorial cowboy
Combat stock
Stipple tape
Tac supp
Soh/9r mag

Low dmg so fmj is not worth it

[old imp]

U could use like quick switch or something then

[oblique oracle]

Aight, I just need something light for rushing

[wicked stirrup]

True

[old imp]

The laser on sniper is so dumb it gives 1.5% and 3%

👽

[oblique oracle]

Cuz my Tundra is got rekt by an outlaw user due to ads advantage

[rose dagger]

hey guys

[oblique oracle]

Can't do pro movements yet, so gotta stick with aim

[rose dagger]

I haven't played in a while, I was wondering what weapons are meta rn? I'm still stuck w my M13 but it's kinda bad now

[old imp]

lowk skill issue tundra is broken

[old imp]

Fennec

[rose dagger]

what abt ARs?

[old imp]

Any mythic with built in red dot

[old imp]

Grau 5.56 is pretty good

[oblique oracle]

Probably

[rose dagger]

for some reason I prefer the Mac 10 over the fennec idk

[old imp]

I suck at snipers myself but yeah its attachments are too broken

[oblique oracle]

Just dropped 12 kills and still lost

[old imp]

Srsky

[wicked stirrup]

Xpr is faster than outlaw

[old imp]

xpr is noob tho

[atomic bronze]

Hvk
Em2
Ffar
Mow/m16/kn
Groza/maddox

[oblique oracle]

But it's not 1 hit, right?

[wicked stirrup]

Eww kn and m16

[old imp]

xpr is like 80 something base i thought

[wicked stirrup]

It is 1 hit, same lethal zone as outlaw, and better range

[leaden citrus]

Don’t disrespect my kn 44

[old imp]

also why people say echo is bad

[wicked stirrup]

And lower flinch

[old imp]

It seems pretty good every time i use it

[leaden citrus]

Kn been my to go since i started the game

[wicked stirrup]

And faster fire rate

[oblique oracle]

Oh demn

[old imp]

worse name so instant ratio

[oblique oracle]

If 80

Then I need to consistently hit chest/head

[wicked stirrup]

Stopping power mag

[wicked stirrup]

Head, chest, and full arms

Like outlaw

[oblique oracle]

I'll see

[atomic bronze]

Same hitbox as outlaw while having 3× faster rof

[plain thistle]

How much CP does a legendary character cost completely?

[oblique oracle]

rof?

[old imp]

if the starting cost is same as mythic, it will cost the same as a mythic

[tired flame]

different for every region

[leaden citrus]

10800

[wicked stirrup]

Rate of fire

[tired flame]

azure put a chart of the prices for the regions somewhere

might be in media

[old imp]

Why do they make leg weapons so expensive lol surely dlq leg is not worth the same as getting the base mythic of a weapon

[tired flame]

cus money

[oblique oracle]

Imma try both

[tired flame]

lol

[safe fog]

Can someone send the best ak117 loadout for snd

[old imp]

[tired flame]

i have one but its for tdm

[atomic bronze]

Rate of fire

[wicked stirrup]

It isnt bad but lk is just better for the intended role

[tired flame]

also the new seasons theme is pretty gas

[leaden citrus]

Nuh uh

[atomic bronze]

Tf you mean nuh uh

[leaden citrus]

Nuh uh

But lk is better than kn

[tired flame]

yea

[wicked stirrup]

Lk and kn are both passive long range ars

Kn has better mobility than lk, so it makes kn better than lk at being flexible

But so does basically every other ars

And lk has better recoil and flinch than kn

I wish oden was good

[tired flame]

oden still sucks

[haughty igloo]

bruh

[wicked stirrup]

Such a cool gun

[haughty igloo]

we're not talking about mp

[wicked stirrup]

We're talking mp rn

[haughty igloo]

😭

[tired flame]

oden has some potential in br but in mp, no

[wicked stirrup]

[old imp]

em2 is a better oden i think

[tired flame]

it is

[old imp]

the kickback of oden makes it hard for me to use

[wicked stirrup]

A+ to S- tier in br
B+ at best in mp ngl

[tired flame]

yea, if you wanna bot frag

[haughty igloo]

lmao potential

[merry heron]

Oden, huh

[tired flame]

the recoil on it is kinda ass

[atomic bronze]

Jak 12 and as val are better oden.

[haughty igloo]

not for beginners

[tired flame]

yea, it can do good in br

[merry heron]

id say its fine, but there are better options

[haughty igloo]

top 2 ar

[atomic bronze]

Its a in br

[wicked stirrup]

And sks if we're doing passive

[haughty igloo]

i remember oden being a spawn weapon in alcatraz that was so broken

[atomic bronze]

Lmfaooo no

[old imp]

its an assault rifle i am NOT playing it like a sniper

[haughty igloo]

you could just land on anyone and kill them easily

[haughty igloo]

what place then?

[atomic bronze]

Sucks is a heavy word

[tired flame]

the recoil is bad for beginners and experts, it all depends on how u build it

[merry heron]

AS Val and Amax :

[wicked stirrup]

Top 5 ars

[atomic bronze]

6th

[haughty igloo]

LOOL

[haughty igloo]

what are the top 5 then?

[tired flame]

ofc its not for spam 💀

[wicked stirrup]

Within top 5 imo

[merry heron]

i cant say much about the Oden given i dont play that weapon

[tired flame]

its slow af so its passive

[old imp]

assault rifle is for assault rifle sniper is for sniper theres no point using a sniper in the ar section when u could just use the xpr/svd itself or any 2 tap marksman

[atomic bronze]

What?
Bruen ar conversion
Amax
M13
Lk
If you wanna be pciky type 25 too but diff playstyle

[old imp]

U see anyone using that semi auto type 19 build unironically

[haughty igloo]

bruh what...

[atomic bronze]

Bruen
Amax
Lk
M13
Type 25(ss only tho)

[leaden citrus]

Type 25 betta

[atomic bronze]

Bruh what

[haughty igloo]

any decent oden player beats any decent player with these guns

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[merry heron]

as an anchor, i use all weapons passively

[leaden citrus]

🗣️🗣️

[wicked stirrup]

amax hbr

[atomic bronze]

Thats straight up wrong. Oh yeah also forgot s36

[atomic bronze]

Thank you ricey alaways forget it

[haughty igloo]

not an ar

[tired flame]

nope, rarely see the type 19

[atomic bronze]

Same playstyle but omay

[old imp]

my point exactly

I see a lot of celestial ink type 19s though

[haughty igloo]

how on earth does the m13 shoot past 50 meters

[wicked stirrup]

Lmgs get boosted mobility in br, so essentially they're just ars, but have access to disable

[tired flame]

basically another striker45

[wicked stirrup]

Bro havent tried m13 in br

[haughty igloo]

i've tried it hundreds of times in plenty of different loadouts and mythic too

[old imp]

I see them - not using the semi auto mag tho thats for sure

[atomic bronze]

What do you mean how

[haughty igloo]

it can in no way shape or form compare to the oden

[tired flame]

its ass and it still sucks til its been buffed a couple times

[haughty igloo]

the recoil with the m13 is way harder to control than the oden

no sync ads to fov btw

[merry heron]

whats this Oden stuff all of a sudden?

[wicked stirrup]

Weaker but more stable bruen

[tired flame]

idk nightshade... idk

[old imp]

i used both and im not a very experienced player but m13 is way easier because of high fire rate, meaning i have more chance to hit shots while controlling recoil

[tired flame]

but its almost 6am and i gotta get some breakfast

[merry heron]

ive never seen anyone here in garena playing oden aside trolling

[haughty igloo]

in no universe does the m13 beat the oden at mid-long range idk where this even came from

[merry heron]

i mean, youre comparing an aggressive weapon with a passive one-

[haughty igloo]

like m13 really gonna be doing 108 to the head

[dawn silo]

For ranged primaries in br it‘s

Top 5 Auto‘s for br
1st S36
2nd Bruen
3rd Amax
4.M13
5.Ak117

@atomic bronze

[haughty igloo]

they're both ars bruh

[merry heron]

M13 ofc smokes Oden in close range

[old imp]

I mean different playstyle so

[oblique oracle]

Tried it, while Outlaw have higher dmg and ads

[haughty igloo]

clown list

[atomic bronze]

Lk?

[old imp]

U dont really want to use such a slow fire rate high recoil ar aggressively

[oblique oracle]

XPR have stable scope when hardscoping corners

[dawn silo]

Nah

[atomic bronze]

Check #codm-media

[haughty igloo]

then you cant compare 90% of guns

[atomic bronze]

Yes its s tier. Ask isleep

[dawn silo]

Okay LaGayrilla

[dawn silo]

isleep approved my list

[haughty igloo]

lamar is gay but off topic

[old imp]

U can compare in their general performance in different maps and modes and also how accurate u are with them

[atomic bronze]

Hmmm okay then

[merry heron]

you CAN compare the likes M13 and FFAR

[haughty igloo]

that's why I say oden is underrated

[wicked stirrup]

Oden is high A - low S tier in br

[merry heron]

i can list of comparables here-

[haughty igloo]

these bozos have never met a decent oden player in their lives

[dawn silo]

for close quarters it‘s
type 25
fennec
Cx9
Tec 9 burst
Ppsh
in br

[wicked stirrup]

And maybe high B in mp

[atomic bronze]

Lmao

[merry heron]

i know one but he said he dislikes it

[wicked stirrup]

All i met in br are oden mfers

[atomic bronze]

Lapa but okay

[merry heron]

he switched to svd

[wicked stirrup]

[old imp]

dawg th eonly people i ever see are camping in a corner or hardscoping idk what is considered "good"

[haughty igloo]

if we're talking about the best autos how can you not compare oden and m13

[dawn silo]

[atomic bronze]

Did you check media?

[haughty igloo]

LOL

[old imp]

i am not sure if they are the best right now

[haughty igloo]

m13 is consistently trash if you shoot at mid to long range

[merry heron]

M13 isnt the best auto for long range though-

[atomic bronze]

@haughty igloo check #codm-media

[merry heron]

M13 is titled the aggressive rifle for a reason--

[haughty igloo]

not for mid range either

[haughty igloo]

what do you want me to look for? porhn?

[dawn silo]

It‘s 4th best for range primaries

[wicked stirrup]

Had a few close calls, but most of the time it's like

They broke my armor and take like 25-30% of my hp

I flinch them to death

[old imp]

dude idk i think its fine and i just slap a red dot on it if its too hard at mid-long range

[wicked stirrup]

[atomic bronze]

Huh? Check the graph I send

[steady steppe]

i love patrol specially when the enemy team spawns 10centimeters away from the point

[old imp]

bros lost it over an oden argument

this is like yesterday

[atomic bronze]

@wicked stirrup i cant with the lobotomy

[merry heron]

Oden is more or so comparable to EM2, which performs at similar range i suppose

[old imp]

i think em2 is better thats just me tho

[haughty igloo]

most of these guns used in asian lobbies would be garbage

[merry heron]

EM2 has the 2 shot factor

[haughty igloo]

what region are you?

[wicked stirrup]

Fighting 117s and other odens did not prepare them for s36's flinch

[old imp]

wow lucky that codm doesnt only have asian lobbies

[wicked stirrup]

Vietnam, aka hell

[atomic bronze]

Mp yes br no

[haughty igloo]

NA lobbies are so cupcake

can kill the average NA player with any gun

[wicked stirrup]

Like it is its own region, outside of asia, meta is similar to NA

[dawn silo]

Br it‘s strong lol

[atomic bronze]

Bruen is insane because of best bipm in the game

[merry heron]

SEA counts as Asian... right?

< Garena player

[wicked stirrup]

With a large sprinkle of hackers everywhere

[old imp]

Yeah like playing against a bunch of mega sweats rocking 20 max mythics and doing gymnastics every time they see ur foot would be so fun tho

[haughty igloo]

most guys here are probably thinking that I'm saying oden > m13 in mp

[merry heron]

*in long range

[wicked stirrup]

Br

Specifically br

[haughty igloo]

not exactly but asians are all packed together holding hands and have laser aim

[merry heron]

although rifles, M13 is more suited for rushes

[haughty igloo]

mid range as well

[wicked stirrup]

Then why did i had an easier time when i tried out NA lobbies?

[atomic bronze]

No we know you are talk8ng br and uts still wrong

[merry heron]

Oden dominates M13 in mid-long, while M13 dominates Oden in close

[dawn silo]

Oden is very punishing if you miss shots the ttk will go very high

[haughty igloo]

close range m13 wins mid-long oden all day

[old imp]

Yeah point of playing codm for me is to relax a little i dont want to see the reincarnation of genghis khan with damascus camo mythic every game xD

[haughty igloo]

experience

[old imp]

That is my point lol u should have an easier time if u want

[merry heron]

talking MP, alotta fights are close quarter unless its Crossfire or Nuketown

[old imp]

No point saying "Asian lobbies are better" if u can't enjoy ur time in them

[snow lintel]

Speak for yourself, I want to fight high end players so I can improve and stroke my ego

[dawn silo]

You ain‘t always hitting all of your shots, and if you really want that ttk use s36 it‘s very very forgiving and you don‘t need to worry about chest shots

[atomic bronze]

Did you check #codm-media ?

[old imp]

u can do that until they start wrecking u its not very fun

Bruh lmao

[haughty igloo]

they help you improve gameplay

[atomic bronze]

S36 has better ttk and faster rof do bsa cant mess up your ttk a lot

[wicked stirrup]

Funniest thing is m13 isnt even top of the line meta ar

[merry heron]

i was called insane when i mentioned S36 being better than Holger back then lmao

[haughty igloo]

if you hit all your m13 shots which is impossible

[wicked stirrup]

Inferior bruen, and bruen is an inferior s36

[old imp]

ion need to be pro player and i dont think playing against people who can kill me 13 different ways if i expose 3cm of my body will do anything other than make me camp hard

[merry heron]

smoked by FFAR and T19 it seems

[old imp]

who r u talking to lol

[wicked stirrup]

Br

[atomic bronze]

And you rae gonna hit all your oden shots? Make it make sense

[merry heron]

i only specialize in mp lmao

[atomic bronze]

In br?

[haughty igloo]

at mid range you're missing a lot of m13 shots

[wicked stirrup]

Holger > s36 in br btw

[merry heron]

i did some comparisons, S36 can contest other LMGs, but held back by its control (MP)

[wicked stirrup]

Well, the mythic variant is

[merry heron]

buut it was a while ago

[wicked stirrup]

Custom holger is meh

[old imp]

Well if u play to win in ranked or ur aiming for something or ur team just plays bad thats gonna happen

[merry heron]

last year lmao

when Garena got S36 Phobos for free

like any normal person i gave it a shot

[atomic bronze]

Same as oden. Whats your point?

[atomic bronze]

In mp no

[merry heron]

comparison was a year ago

[old imp]

I mean u can say that but the game is not fun sometimes and thats just what happens yknow

[haughty igloo]

not if you're better than a bot

[merry heron]

i stopped doing comparisons after that-

[wicked stirrup]

Same skill level
Same hit rate
M13 wins iirc

[merry heron]

simply because: why should i care

[leaden verge]

hello

[wicked stirrup]

True, just use what you want

[dawn silo]

@atomic bronze Em2 get‘s shadowed by many guns even tho it has competitive ttk, but still not bad ar, you could go cqc but you will get destroyed by smg‘s

[dawn silo]

M13 vs Oden br?

[old imp]

Yeah sure lol good for u if it is true

[merry heron]

Oden : Long range AR, dominates mid-long ranges
M13 : Aggressive AR, dominates close-low mid ranges

there.

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[haughty igloo]

oden can 3 tap in br

[wicked stirrup]

Ye, if you have perfect aim then oden wins, but noone is perfect

[atomic bronze]

No

[copper valley]

Which is better the cbr4 or the pp19

[wicked stirrup]

Pp19

[merry heron]

only comparing the 2 ofc

[dawn silo]

Y‘all forget Oden is punishing as hell bruh 💀

[merry heron]

i dont take others into account

[atomic bronze]

Depends on health

[old imp]

Sure, drop her discord

[atomic bronze]

Bsa:

[wicked stirrup]

^

[atomic bronze]

And this isnt skill issue. Its about bsa

[copper valley]

Do u have a reason?

[dawn silo]

If you miss 2 shots and the other one hit‘s all shots you are cooked as hell

[merry heron]

theoretically, if you have perfect aim, the M21 is the definitive best weapon

[old imp]

Ok

[wicked stirrup]

Better mobility and range, as well as accuracy

[old imp]

Better than sks?

[merry heron]

wait does M21 does insta kills on Headshot?

[wicked stirrup]

Yes

[copper valley]

Thx

[dawn silo]

Well if you hit all shots oden has better ttk than Amax but I promise nobody hitting all shots

[merry heron]

IF you have 100% Headshot Accuracy

[old imp]

Dayum

[dawn silo]

Amax wayy more forgiving

[wicked stirrup]

If you have perfect aim you'd hit 100% headshot

[old imp]

might be a tiny bit tough

Doesnt sks 1sk head though

[merry heron]

M21 has higher ADS

[wicked stirrup]

Also yes

[atomic bronze]

You physicly cant hit all shots

[dawn silo]

Exactly lol, they rate Oden as if they would hit every single shot

[atomic bronze]

It isnt even ab aim. Its bsa flinch etc.

[dawn silo]

Also yeah

[merry heron]

i find Oden to be not worth using over EM2 ig

[wicked stirrup]

Ab
Arena breakout

[dawn silo]

But bruh if you want a weapon for long range that is forgiving and you don‘t have to worry about chest hits ffs use S36

[wicked stirrup]

[dawn silo]

That yes

[merry heron]

EM2 is way more forgiving and has the 2 tap potential

also one of my favorite mythic

[dawn silo]

I read it wrong

No Oden > Em2 despite the bsa and hit flinch

Well mid-long

Close range Em2 works better iirc

[atomic bronze]

Br she is talkung ab ig

[safe fog]

The tundra grain camo cold Ah

[haughty igloo]

why do people always assume you're going to have garbage aim with the oden

[dawn silo]

I‘m talking about br too

[old imp]

Btw thank u for the gunsmith it works very well

I had small ammo problem but just used vulture

[dawn silo]

You‘re not, but you‘re not going to hit all your shots and missing shot‘s will make your ttk go up high by a lot, missing 2 shots can be a very bad problem if the other one hit‘s his shots

[safe fog]

Damn the new camos are so good

[atomic bronze]

You are talking br he is talking mp

[dawn silo]

Ohhh

Yeah Em2 > Oden in mp is a fact lol

[old imp]

Ricey would u happent o also have red dot m4 build

[haughty igloo]

still doesn't make it worse than m13

[old imp]

bruh i just killed someone with the flash grenade contact doing 13 damage

[atomic bronze]

Red dot? You have legendary bro

[wicked stirrup]

Cuz it's physically impossible to achieve good ttk consistently with oden

Say if an m13 player misses 4-6 shots, then you can only afford to miss 2-3 to have the same ttk, and i doubt any half decent player would be lenient enough to miss that much to allow you to have an upper hand with oden

[wicked stirrup]

Tac supp
Marksman barrel
Gran
50r
Rds

Passive build

[dawn silo]

Wouldn‘t be so sure abt that, 2 shots missed on oden is horrible

let alone 3 shots

[wicked stirrup]

Or mono
Tac laser
Gran
50r
Rds
Flex build

[atomic bronze]

Yes it does. Bsa and flinch will make you miss shots and as you can see in #codm-media (which you still didnt check) ttk even if you hit all your shots you will have better ttk with m13

[dawn silo]

@atomic bronze I saw people comparing shotgun‘s to smg‘s

[old imp]

Thx

[haughty igloo]

aight good luck with your m13 against any real player with an oden

[dawn silo]

Lol

[old imp]

Ill save this one too

[old imp]

Ion like it

Ironsight is too fat

[atomic bronze]

Check media. Look at the facts even with 100% accuracy m13 wins

[merry heron]

i like how when people compare 2 guns with completely different style they assume their side will have 100% aim accuracy

[buoyant wraith]

All mythic guns are strong

[atomic bronze]

I agree but this isnt one of those cases

[merry heron]

*if you can use it

[buoyant wraith]

Name me one weak mythic

[merry heron]

Peacekeeper

[atomic bronze]

Cbr

[dawn silo]

Peackeeper 💀💀

[merry heron]

Ak117

[atomic bronze]

Pk is meta💀💀

[dawn silo]

You‘re bugging

[dawn silo]

He said skins, not weapon

[merry heron]

didnt bother giving it a check lmao

[buoyant wraith]

It used to be the best, now its balanced

[dawn silo]

Cbr is ass

[merry heron]

a bad mythic weapon?

[atomic bronze]

Now its bad.

[buoyant wraith]

Ak117 isnt really a bad gun a lot play well with it

[merry heron]

Krig has fallen from grace

[atomic bronze]

It hasnt

It only got 1f ads speed nerf

[buoyant wraith]

I mean will we ever see FR 556 mythix? Mythic Pharo?

[dawn silo]

It‘s 6th best Ar lol

[buoyant wraith]

Mythic NA-45

Dont think so

[merry heron]

i dont mind that tbh

[atomic bronze]

@dawn silo @wicked stirrup this chat has high concetration of lobotomy

[old imp]

Lol

[atomic bronze]

Man cant wait for kith top 15 so i can just link it

[haughty igloo]

100% accuracy how so? all body shots? all headshots?

[atomic bronze]

Neither. Combination.

[dawn silo]

😭😭

[merry heron]

apologies, i just despised those mythics

[dawn silo]

Tbh I think the list won‘t be much different than ur‘s, mine (obviously I don‘t have half of the knowledge kith and ge does), oggaes, josephs

[merry heron]

i have a strong distaste to mythics that lack creativity, thats all

[atomic bronze]

What michi showed you is early version of kith top 15. In the end michi zi and little bit me refined the list

[haughty igloo]

108 damage to the head or even 70 is hard to beat

[wicked stirrup]

Tl;dr: oden only allows half the margin of error as m13, as well as being harder to use. And even if you fill out those requirements, you're only getting the same performance out of your oden compared to an m13

[dawn silo]

I had a similiar list, just after top 9 I didn‘t know lol my knowledge is meh still

[atomic bronze]

Yes bc hitting all headshots is literally impossible

[indigo pasture]

hello i think bk best gun

[safe fog]

Can someone send me a good tundra build

[indigo pasture]

it feel good

[atomic bronze]

Bk is underrated btw dark

[merry heron]

cant say much about BK57

[dawn silo]

tac, tiger team, fmj, 7 round, airbone elastic for snd
for respawns Hammer forged, cqb pad, owc laser, 7 round, airbone elastic

[merry heron]

havent used it enough to have a proper opinion on it

[atomic bronze]

Do you blankscope?
Wallabamh?

[indigo pasture]

one of my favorite ARs actually

[atomic bronze]

Its very similar to kilo stat wise

[safe fog]

A bit of both ig

[haughty igloo]

hitting 3 headshots is impossible?

[atomic bronze]

Yes. It isnt 108 damage btw where you get that number from

[vapid rune]

Hello @bernard

[merry heron]

i kinda appreciate Space Race BK57 now

[atomic bronze]

You would have to have luck equal to winning the lottery

[merry heron]

*IF the headshots are back-to-back-to-back-

i... cant hit them lmao

[atomic bronze]

It simply requires way too much luck to hit 3 headshots

At long range at least

[merry heron]

even with SKS i can only manage 2 back to back headshots at long range

[atomic bronze]

There is a diff. You can consistently hit headshots on sks but you cant on oden @haughty igloo

[haughty igloo]

gold long range

[merry heron]

take bsa and recoil into account

[dawn silo]

Oden needs a firerate and bv like S36 ngl

[atomic bronze]

Ah

[merry heron]

thats all.

anyway

[atomic bronze]

Thats what i am talking about. Bsa physicly stops you from 3 shotting with iden @haughty igloo

[haughty igloo]

aight agree to disagree?

[atomic bronze]

No

[merry heron]

not saying Oden is bad, but the range limit is uh, questionable

[haughty igloo]

LOL

[wicked stirrup]

It's like a 50ms ttk dif if we consider headshot only btw

290 for oden and 340 for m13, and that's only for point blank, m13 has better drop off

[merry heron]

id better off using other long ranged weapons ig

[atomic bronze]

M13>oden sinple as that. Similar ttk faster rof on m13 making bsa missing shots lesd punishing. If we take headshots into account oden is slightly faster not to consider all other factors that make oden worse

[atomic bronze]

,,Good oden player win"

[haughty igloo]

oden players are a lot better than m13 players

there's also a reason why s36 isn't used as much as other guns

[merry heron]

wait, doesnt this apply to all guns?

[atomic bronze]

Yes bc br players are conservative

[haughty igloo]

that is true

[atomic bronze]

Says who? Like comparing guns by skill of the player is the dumbest thing ive heard today

[haughty igloo]

an outstanding fennec player can still be 1 tapped

[haughty igloo]

what

[merry heron]

and an outstanding sniper can still be trolled

[dawn silo]

Because br knowledge is horrible

[merry heron]

nothing can be 100%, yknow

[haughty igloo]

the m13 is so great but I've never lost an oden to m13 gunfight in my life

[dawn silo]

S36 is busted

[wicked stirrup]

You only get 42m of 290ms ttk iirc
Colossal marksman gold long shot

M13's 340ms is 53m if mono marksman double stack gold long shot

[haughty igloo]

bust a 🌰 if u must

[wicked stirrup]

11m range lead

[atomic bronze]

That argument is straight up dumb. Oden main>m13 main means oden>m13. Thats stupid in multiple ways

[dawn silo]

[atomic bronze]

You mean heavy long barrel

[haughty igloo]

ive used custom not custom any type

[wicked stirrup]

Marksman is shorter to type

[atomic bronze]

@wicked stirrup this guy or dreamdaddy?

[atomic bronze]

Okay?

[wicked stirrup]

[merry heron]

i dont play BR enough to have a saying

i can only talk on MP-

[dawn silo]

Now for real tho, who‘s dreamdaddy?

[haughty igloo]

if you arent standing still an m13 still isn't going to only miss a few shots

oden tho is easier to hit because of slower fire rate

[merry heron]

garena players :

man those eels man.

[vapid rune]

No

[atomic bronze]

Guy in campers. Lemme show you his pearl msg in media

[haughty igloo]

bro probably thinks m13 beats oden and long range

[merry heron]

NA45 triggers them though

[dawn silo]

He is good? Or dumb? Or a dumbass? Or a insane player? or a idiot?

[atomic bronze]

Depends on headshot hr

[indigo pasture]

oden is ass respectfully

[dawn silo]

Okay nevermind he is a dumbass

[haughty igloo]

bro I'm done

[dawn silo]

Dark no, it‘s underline meta in br and b tier in mp but not ass 😭😭

[haughty igloo]

anyways subject change time

[atomic bronze]

Okay lmao. Btw you still didnt provide single drop of stats

[haughty igloo]

better internet = better player 90% of the time

[indigo pasture]

missing shots will get you punished and or faster fire rate guns can do what it does about the same

[haughty igloo]

stats and actually going out and using the gun against another player isn't the same thing

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[dawn silo]

@atomic bronze From 1-10 how dumbass is dreamdaddy

[atomic bronze]

Yes it is if you know how to read stats

[haughty igloo]

oh my

[wicked stirrup]

Stats translates directly into performance tho
From recoil to fire rate to dmg to spread

[haughty igloo]

my shotguns shots don't register 20% of the time and it gets me killed

[wicked stirrup]

[dawn silo]

Well it‘s still very very competitive, even tho it‘s punishing

[haughty igloo]

and when they're point blank they refue to 1 tap

[dawn silo]

since oden ttk is not bad etc.

[indigo pasture]

i said this about my em2 wanna know what one of the stats nerds said as a counter

“you’re lying” jajaja

[haughty igloo]

bruh

[wicked stirrup]

You can record packet loss and compile them them as stats yk

[haughty igloo]

yep I swear i'm lasering a dude and it shows no damage 💀

[atomic bronze]

Yes thats what differentiates you who reads stats and me( @dawn silo do i go michi mode?)

[wicked stirrup]

It is a very popular tool in pc fps games

[steady steppe]

this is because youre not aiming at them

[indigo pasture]

i can have perfect aim and my em2 won’t register shots even at like 20 ms

[haughty igloo]

aight shut up

[merry heron]

shotguns are notorious for its high difficulty and inconsistency

[haughty igloo]

oh fr

[steady steppe]

noob

[wicked stirrup]

.

[indigo pasture]

makes like no sense

[haughty igloo]

but people still say they're "easy to use"

[wicked stirrup]

[steady steppe]

its true

[haughty igloo]

against chinese players most times you miss 1 shot and you die

[dawn silo]

Nah Michi would‘ve already get muted

[haughty igloo]

and you only get 1 shot

[merry heron]

im having traumas as a garena player here give me a break-

[atomic bronze]

I have most patience out of all ge's

[feral hound]

guys how do I move the yellow tool button in practice mode

[merry heron]

krms are hell to counter i cant predict the range lmaoo

[dawn silo]

True that, btw Oden > M13

[wicked stirrup]

Nah, i was ge

[dawn silo]

[indigo pasture]

shotguns aren’t hard to use but they’re hard to be really good at

[atomic bronze]

Worst thing you can do is argue with michi or call kiths top 10s bad

[merry heron]

yes, and they can also be inconsistent at times ig

the spread is just-

[dawn silo]

He will just start flaming people 😭

[novel dune]

Good morning nerds

[merry heron]

i have skill issue with shotgun dont mind

[atomic bronze]

Did you ever zi flane kids who called kiths top 10s bad?

[haughty igloo]

point blank does 20 damage full pellets and 10 meters away does 200

[dawn silo]

No? Wdym zi flame kids?

[merry heron]

krm has tight spread but ridiculously unpredictable hip fire

[atomic bronze]

If they insult kith lists yes he does. He did it here too

[haughty igloo]

aight stop trolling

[haughty igloo]

you said it

[dawn silo]

Zi flaming kids LMAO

[atomic bronze]

She loves trollin me

[dawn silo]

I always troll Gri because he‘a a nerd

[atomic bronze]

Frenchmen gets little excited and destroys people

[haughty igloo]

bro why do people think they can talk trash when they 1v3 you with a ravage launcher on their side too

[merry heron]

only speaking from experience though, i just hate facing a good krm user though i hold some degree of respect for mastering the damn thing

[dawn silo]

[haughty igloo]

i only talk trash in a fair 1v1 or odds against me

i dont talk trash if I win unfairly

unless they do the same

[merry heron]

i dont do 1v1s, im too weak

[twilit mica]

My device started lagging after 3 hours of gaming

[potent sky]

I like to say the N word to @atomic bronze but the system wont let me, so sad

[atomic bronze]

@haughty igloo what is your opinion on kiths top 10s?

[atomic bronze]

Kekw

[merry heron]

i also dont trashtalk on winning, just some pointers even though if its by a landslide

i find it weird to go all out

[indigo pasture]

i only trash talk when people try to ego me

[merry heron]

going all out on a pointless 1v1 isnt my cup of tea

[haughty igloo]

who tf is that

[merry heron]

the way i taunt my opponent is just using NA45 lmao

[atomic bronze]

Kith? The youtuber with 330k subs

[indigo pasture]

really good youtuber

[haughty igloo]

never heard of em

[merry heron]

but for 1v1s, i dont use NA45 unless specifically told to

[haughty igloo]

mhm nice try bud 😉

[atomic bronze]

You dodged a bullet......

[potent sky]

Kith is amongst rhe few one thst does not spill BS

[haughty igloo]

sounds like i dodged a missile