codm-discussion-💫

[wheat pier]

End of the month

[true canopy]

Nah, this dude just latched like a mite

[willow wave]

i’m asking bc you’re arabic

[civic plover]

Ah yes, there is definitely correlation between saying stuff in a discord chat and...planting bombs in a local park?

[sleek iris]

Shake him off fr

[silent jasper]

Reread

[willow wave]

ik how to speak read and write arabic

[willow wave]

that didn’t answer my muslim question

[willow wave]

doesn't really matter

[silent jasper]

But it's a public park I can do whatever I want💪💪💯

[willow wave]

i don’t mean disrespect by it

[willow wave]

this sounds like something a predator would say

[willow wave]

*sees a lot of kids playing

[sleek iris]

Janis always said these guys are annoying and stupid and I can see his vision

[silent jasper]

I'm just saying what @golden crater said

[golden tinsel]

[civic plover]

There isn't any correlation between the two. You're comparing some dude saying something you don't like to a felony 💀

[willow wave]

why are ranked players 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

[golden tinsel]

rip brando

[silent jasper]

Well the difference is I'm doing instead of saying

[willow wave]

they don't go out

[sleek iris]

Oh no liberals, get him!

[willow wave]

Real

[halcyon violet]

The stockings improve blood flow so I have better reactions

[willow wave]

makes sense thanks

[civic plover]

The difference is your statement makes zero sense

[silent jasper]

Then reread

[halcyon violet]

No and I don't wear stockings either

I'm a super casual ranked player

[stuck merlin]

Hey guys

[halcyon violet]

No not lb just ranked

Well technically my weapon is ranked

I play ranked. I'm not ranked

[stuck merlin]

Anyone Here who knows why i cant get the Tournament camo for Launcher?

[sleek iris]

Guys this isn't discussing about codm what are y'all doing!

[willow wave]

i jus grind like 30 mins a day with sweats and quit after reaching legendary

do people actually use finger gloves that aren’t streamers or pros ?

[stuck merlin]

Im Grandmaster mao

[halcyon violet]

gm1

[silent jasper]

Discussing

[halcyon violet]

Thought you were asking my lb position

[sleek iris]

codm

[willow wave]

🤓

[halcyon violet]

But yeah I play thumbs, music, no team chat

The game's meant to be fun

Not stressful

[willow wave]

i agree with this guy

[sleek iris]

Mb! I should not follow the point of the channel oh silly me 🤓

[silent jasper]

Who doesn't play thumbs

[halcyon violet]

Lots of people

[willow wave]

really good when ur bored

[civic plover]

Almost anything CoD related is stressful (like chat rn lol)

[halcyon violet]

It's only stressful if you make it

Just relax, if you win you win, if you lose you lose

It's just a game

[golden tinsel]

W brando, didn't get reported

[silent jasper]

Bro that's just abusing yourself why would u put your pinky on your screen.

[golden tinsel]

[halcyon violet]

No one plays pinkies, but lots of people play claw, or controller, or triggers

[civic plover]

I was trying to make a joke, I get your point tho

Chat is a cesspool rn

[halcyon violet]

Currently have 27 MVPs out of 56 ranked games played this season

[golden tinsel]

still better than #general-discussion-💫

[willow wave]

is red sprite still available to get?

[worthy nimbus]

It is possible to gift Cp cuz I think it is

Dang

[willow wave]

is that a no on red sprite

[willow wave]

if it was hackers gonna be wild

[silent jasper]

Technically your still using your thumbs

[halcyon violet]

🤓

[worthy nimbus]

Dang it... I was gonna be wild...

[silent jasper]

Playing with a controller doesn't make you good at a game

[willow wave]

does it say that only pride flag people use it

[halcyon violet]

Imagine insulting others for using a different control scheme than you tho

[willow wave]

(I've def tried some stuff)

[halcyon violet]

Jojo I assume you use claw

[silent jasper]

Bro do u have a mental disability.

[worthy nimbus]

💀

[halcyon violet]

You should post your ranked stats

[last raven]

When was Templar Oath skin removed from store?

[silent jasper]

Ok but insulting?

[halcyon violet]

You're the guy with an anime pfp, that's arguably worse

[silent jasper]

Better than a weeb.

[halcyon violet]

Not you, jojo

[worthy nimbus]

Jojo

[halcyon violet]

So you're saying nothing is worse than anime? On that we can agree

[willow wave]

ye

[worthy nimbus]

What is that?

[halcyon violet]

Anyways jojo you're talking mad crazy for someone who won't even share their stats

[worthy nimbus]

😂

[willow wave]

what does omicron mean, looks familiar

you got anime on your profile 🙄

[halcyon violet]

And yet I'm almost positive I play it better than you

[worthy nimbus]

😁

[midnight monolith]

How long does the cod cp rebate last for

[halcyon violet]

Until 8 March

[midnight monolith]

Thanks

[worthy nimbus]

Are you sure u wanna know?

[willow wave]

yes

[halcyon violet]

@golden crater how about both of us post our stats in #codm-media

And then if you're better than me feel free to judge me

[worthy nimbus]

It's actually the fifteenth letter of the Greek alphabet

[willow wave]

ah thanks

[worthy nimbus]

It was also used to refer to COVID

[silent jasper]

Fine, Watch anime but don't be so obsessed you be thinking your one of the characters

[worthy nimbus]

And it's kind of the name of the main character in my comic books

[boreal canopy]

Codm discussion had turned into an anime war?

[halcyon violet]

#codm-media

[worthy nimbus]

And it's kind of the name of the main character in my comic books

[willow wave]

the heck does ur name mean

[halcyon violet]

...so do you

[willow wave]

that’s cool

[halcyon violet]

Are you blind?

[boreal canopy]

Meaning of life

[halcyon violet]

It's literally in the photo

[worthy nimbus]

I thought I was weird

[willow wave]

you basically think of immature grown a.. adults watching anime 24/7 and making it their main thing

[worthy nimbus]

Thanks

[silent jasper]

Dawg your buff anime men are literally paper

[halcyon violet]

13 MVPs in matches won, 14 in matches lost

[willow wave]

how is 27 mvp hard ;-;

[willow wave]

isn’t love the meaning of life

[worthy nimbus]

Huh?

[halcyon violet]

Imagine thinking someone's pfp is their entire personality

[willow wave]

he's 300+

[silent jasper]

I'm sure an engine speaks for itself

[boreal canopy]

No my username is truth.

[halcyon violet]

It's not, but 27/56 MVPs is just showing to him that I don't bottom frag every game

And yet he still won't post his stats

[willow wave]

do you do drugs by chance

[halcyon violet]

Probably because he realized he's worse

[willow wave]

level 🤓

[boreal canopy]

Never.

[willow wave]

search up his username

[halcyon violet]

13 in won matches, 14 in lost matches

[silent jasper]

Johnny Johnny

[astral zephyr]

the m4 is not coming reportedly

[willow wave]

ok bro

[halcyon violet]

13 + 14 = 27

[silent jasper]

Not again 😭

[halcyon violet]

We won't know that until you post yours

[willow wave]

[halcyon violet]

Sucks to suck

Post yours

[astral zephyr]

its confirmed they wanna make money

[willow wave]

yeah m4 is cancelled

[halcyon violet]

You can't say I bottom frag in matches where I get mvp. You do know what bottom fragging is right

[willow wave]

[halcyon violet]

By definition if I get mvp I didn't bottom frag, even if I lost

[worthy nimbus]

Wait wait wait I wanna ask a simple question

[silent jasper]

I hope it gets deleted and and we can earn CPS Instead

[halcyon violet]

But please, post your stats

We're dying to see them

[boreal canopy]

Put an end to this by doing 1v1 instead of arguing then we will know who’s better Ngl

[worthy nimbus]

Can I ask a question, I want a moment of silence

[halcyon violet]

Never said it was, but mvp means I didn't bottom frag

[willow wave]

(You almost ruined it for him)

[halcyon violet]

Nah just have him post his stats

[astral zephyr]

the m4 is gonna be erased from the game at 1 am reportedly confirmed

[worthy nimbus]

Can I ask a question, I want a moment of silence

[halcyon violet]

...yes they do

[boreal canopy]

Why stats just 1v1

[halcyon violet]

One person always bottom frags on each team

[halcyon violet]

Because he's criticizing me without posting

[worthy nimbus]

Can I ask a question, I want a moment of silence

[willow wave]

Thats crazy 🤯 🤯

[silent jasper]

REAL

[halcyon violet]

Just ask it

[worthy nimbus]

Ok

So after all this talking and stuff

[willow wave]

you could just ss

is getting a gun on leaderboard hard?

[worthy nimbus]

Do y'all even know each other?

[silent jasper]

Bro thinks outside the box

[halcyon violet]

I literally just showed that I don't but go off

[willow wave]

it doesnt take 5 minutes 🤓

[worthy nimbus]

Like y'all talking smack about each other and don't even know who we are

[silent jasper]

Ok that's just dog water

[astral zephyr]

i am the goat in codm

[boreal canopy]

Some guns r very competitive some r easier

[willow wave]

it barely takes 1 min

[halcyon violet]

Well apparently this guy is level 25

[willow wave]

thank you

which phone

[silent jasper]

Outdated device?

[halcyon violet]

I have more MVPs this season than he does his entire account

[willow wave]

Ain't no way he actually takes 5 mins

[silent jasper]

Fr, can make a sandwich less than 1mins

[willow wave]

👍

[halcyon violet]

He's literally just afraid because as soon as he posts it his entire argument crumbles

[willow wave]

which phone

[civic plover]

And some are just fun to use regardless

[boreal canopy]

True

[willow wave]

which phone kid ?

[boreal canopy]

Welcome

[halcyon violet]

Firstly, unrealistic if you're actually playing against equal skill players. Secondly, #codm-media

I literally do better with the worst gun than you do overall

Then prove it

Show your stats

[willow wave]

lmaoo

[silent jasper]

OK THEN 1v1 him

[willow wave]

which device you use (That takes 5 mins)

[halcyon violet]

Also by definition with an equally skilled player you'll have a 1.0 k/d

[willow wave]

you gotta cope and 1v1

[halcyon violet]

Then post your stats

Prove it

[worthy nimbus]

What the heck is a bottom Fragger?

[halcyon violet]

Post your stats

[halcyon violet]

Person who does worst on the team

[willow wave]

avg 13 year old comeback

[halcyon violet]

I get MVP almost half of my matches and he still thinks I bottom frag

Meanwhile his account is level 25 and has 23 lifetime MVPs

[worthy nimbus]

Why do I feel like I've seen like a thousand bottom fraggers before

[halcyon violet]

Prove it

Send your stats

Just nobody talk to him until he posts stats

[willow wave]

bro i find it pretty hard to believe you take 5 mins unless you need to update

[halcyon violet]

Don't talk to him

Completely ignore him until he posts stats

[willow wave]

👍

[silent jasper]

Call admin pls this argument is shutting my brain🙏💓

[worthy nimbus]

What's your acc name tho?

And what kind of name is that?

Ain't no way that's your name

Ok

Wait I don't wanna spend 2 minutes even opening codm

[boreal canopy]

Lmaooo

[worthy nimbus]

Umm... It depends

[silent jasper]

The only thing that wasn't shut is your dads protection

[worthy nimbus]

Dude stop it's enough

[boreal canopy]

Need Batman to come save the day

[worthy nimbus]

Lol

[boreal canopy]

He’s saying ur dad should have used protection😭

[willow wave]

or the pull out game was bad

[boreal canopy]

@wise pagoda Batman our hero come save us

Oh my bad

[worthy nimbus]

What does it mean

Then

[boreal canopy]

I’m gonna take my leave and hope Batman stops y’all

[stuck quarry]

That's what he meant actually lol

[worthy nimbus]

Wait

[stuck quarry]

Ignorance is bliss

[worthy nimbus]

I think I know what it means

[halcyon violet]

@golden crater how about you stop talking for two minutes and post your stats

And then if you're as good as you say you are we all can know

You only get xp once per minute

[worthy nimbus]

💀

[stuck quarry]

Just saying lol ima chillin not my buisness if someone say anything to anyone here lol

[halcyon violet]

So you'll literally miss like one minute max

You can manage

[silent jasper]

I'm going to run a president and they gonna shove this up my ass during my speech😭

[boreal canopy]

[stuck quarry]

[halcyon violet]

Shh

We don't want to give him an excuse to stay on discord

Wait for him to post stats

[fervent plume]

e beef at this time?

[stuck quarry]

Blessed mother Lilith save us

[willow wave]

I do this to ppl like him

[halcyon violet]

Some guy's saying I'm a bottom fragger, so I posted stats showing MVP almost half my matches and he's afraid to do the same

[fervent plume]

2 am for me rn and just opened discord to more e-beef

[boreal canopy]

Iron man gotta avenge

[fervent plume]

nah i was making a valentines card for my gf and im gonna continue doing so

wish you both the best of luck, may the best fighter win

[silent jasper]

I been here for only 3 days this is already normal

[boreal canopy]

Funny thing is it’s codm discussion not general lmao

[stuck quarry]

[halcyon violet]

I told him I play thumbs and he said that's why I suck but he's unable or unwilling to post his own claw stats

[boreal canopy]

U won’t choose a side?

[willow wave]

remember she saw drake's leak (she searched for it)

[halcyon violet]

...you're the troll

[fervent plume]

nah, too lazy

i'll just read the msgs

[boreal canopy]

Alr then

I will choose both of y’all

[stuck quarry]

Thumb players can be good it's all about practice

[boreal canopy]

Enemies to lovers trope 😍

[willow wave]

not related to whats going on here lil one

[halcyon violet]

Well the argument' s not going anywhere because he won't post his stats and he's ignoring mine

[boreal canopy]

I’ve seen rlly good thumb players tbh it’s crazy

[halcyon violet]

AFAIK they're better than yours

[boreal canopy]

Don’t need one it’s about codm discussion anyways not beef

[halcyon violet]

But feel free to post them and prove me wrong

[willow wave]

U clone

[silent jasper]

Here we go again

[halcyon violet]

It's not delusional if there's nothing to prove me wrong

[boreal canopy]

I’m real one

[safe tangle]

What's going on jo

[halcyon violet]

When?

[willow wave]

Nah u clone where the real one

[worthy nimbus]

Ah s... Here we go again

[halcyon violet]

He says I'm bad but won't post his stats showing he's better than me

[safe tangle]

Stats? What take

[willow wave]

And how would I know

[halcyon violet]

Because "it takes too long to open the game"

Never said that

I only said thumbs players can be good

[civic plover]

Again? It never stopped long enough to have a sequel

[halcyon violet]

And that playing thumbs doesn't mean I'm automatically bad

[boreal canopy]

My pic is clearer and my joined date is diff than that bot

[silent jasper]

I didn't really understood your sentence bc of the spelling I just know it's a disagreement

[boreal canopy]

Lmao

[willow wave]

Okay clone whatever u say

[safe tangle]

Oh well
That's subjective with the player
But on average
Claw is >> thumb
It's not hard to do 3-4 fingers

Movement, reaction time,panic moments
Overall sway control while hardscoping
It's all advantageous on claw
But eh

[stuck quarry]

[halcyon violet]

Literally nobody has said thumb is better than claw

[willow wave]

thumb is ok for just chilling
Claw for grinding and ranked

[halcyon violet]

He said thumb makes you trash and I said it doesn't, that's all

[silent jasper]

I believe a good claw "player and beat a good" thumb player.

[halcyon violet]

He's quoting you

[silent jasper]

Bro what is player and beat a good

[halcyon violet]

Neither

I don't like autos

[plush zealot]

What's happening?

[safe tangle]

Well that's not the case
Unless you involve not doing any movement,proper sniping or actually not having negative kd as casual then I agree.
Thumb players can be good
But it's not that claw is not casual .
It absolutely depends on the player's practice ethic that he's casual or a grinder

[silent jasper]

How am I supposed to know that??

[fervent plume]

some kinda e-beef over stats and bottom fragging

[boreal canopy]

Beefing 😭 over stats

[halcyon violet]

Some guy said I bottom frag because I play thumbs, I posted stats showing MVP almost half my matches, he won't post his own

[boreal canopy]

Oh u lurking around

[halcyon violet]

He claims it takes too long to open the game

[silent jasper]

And pfp and play styles

[halcyon violet]

Neither

NA-45

[fervent plume]

i plan to sleep within the next hour

[willow wave]

If anyone is still confused about how to get the free M4 on global, text me

[willow wave]

you don't have to be so formal lmaoo (I didn't say thumb was bad )

[silent jasper]

"Cash or card"
"Neither"

[boreal canopy]

Alr gn in advance

[halcyon violet]

Just because you're bad with a weapon doesn't mean the weapon is bad

[plush zealot]

Sweet dream

[halcyon violet]

And no I don't use it as a crutch, most of my kills are headahots

[silent jasper]

10 years of justice

[safe tangle]

I appear formal cuz that's my style of speaking tbh
I don't call people monkeys left and right till I think they're absolutely gone in the deep dark depths of the delusional takes

[boreal canopy]

U too

[willow wave]

check #codm-media lil bro

[plush zealot]

I woke up but thanks lol

[safe tangle]

Oh ok
D13 sector

[worthy nimbus]

Uhh ok

[halcyon violet]

Nah D13 is objectively bad

But if you can consistently hit headshots, NA-45 beats other snipers

[fervent plume]

nail gun best wdym

[willow wave]

really hard tho

[halcyon violet]

Sounds like a skill issue

[safe tangle]

If let's just say someone nuked with it
It would be meta?
Being bad or good with a weapon doesn't determine viability
Nor does its popularity determine the same

[willow wave]

@safe tangle ur being a lil too formal on "DISCORD"
This aint an application

[halcyon violet]

Worse flinch? It has 0.12. Worse recoil? It has 0 effective recoil, and recoil literally doesn't matter on snipers. Ads time is worse, true, but it's not meant to be a rushing gun

[fervent plume]

if you could consistenly hit headshots, m21 would be the best sniper

[safe tangle]

Brother
There's a reason headshots are treated as a very hard thing to master
1/10 times you may hit a headshot unless ur purely hardscoping tbh

[willow wave]

"Skill"

[silent jasper]

Ok so claws are just gloves on your thumbs?

[halcyon violet]

I mean lifetime with it I'm at about 33% headshot

[halcyon violet]

No it's playing with more fingers on the screen

You use your index fingers and sometimes middle fingers

[willow wave]

like you use 3+ fingers at a time

[safe tangle]

Only so much skill matters especially for ranked brother.

Hell even after 3 tap ar buffs to 2 tap double headshots
It appears once a blue moon for majority of the playerbase

[fervent plume]

shape your hands into the shape of an eagle's talons
now put that on your screen
thats claw type hud

[silent jasper]

So I'm a claw and not a thumbs player?

[halcyon violet]

Nah, M21 would be better in scenarios where there's >2 players in sight but far enough to not blow up together. NA-45 is better in scenarios where you can't see heads/you can't see the player at all

[safe tangle]

There's no way one can actually argue tundra < any current sniper rn

[willow wave]

how much fingers you use at a time

[silent jasper]

5

[willow wave]

ye ur claw

[fervent plume]

cuz tundra is the best rn and thats statistically facts

[cinder mica]

I only use my pinkys to play

[halcyon violet]

Yeah tundra is admittedly the best, I'm partly trolling jojo

[fervent plume]

anyone who believes otherwise is stupid or is too attached to a specific gun

[plush zealot]

Tbh this looks like it's all preference. One tries to make himself look superior lol

Too much ego

[halcyon violet]

But NA-45 isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be

[willow wave]

Absolutely, skill is undoubtedly a crucial factor in ranked play, and it plays a significant role in determining success. However, it's important to recognize that various elements contribute to a player's performance in a competitive setting.

The recent adjustments to weapon balancing, such as the 3-tap AR buffs to 2-tap double headshots you mentioned, can indeed have a notable impact on the overall gameplay dynamics. While these changes aim to add depth and variety to the gaming experience, it's true that they may not be equally accessible or evident to all players.

In a vast player base, individual experiences and skill levels can vary significantly. Some may adapt quickly to these alterations and capitalize on them effectively, while others might find it challenging to integrate these changes into their playstyle. Factors like reaction time, map awareness, communication, and strategic decision-making also contribute significantly to success in ranked play.

It's not uncommon for certain adjustments or buffs to only be noticeable to a fraction of the player base, especially those at the upper echelons of skill. For the majority, it might indeed feel like these changes occur only "once in a blue moon." Additionally, the learning curve for adapting to new mechanics or weapon behaviors can be steeper for some players.

In the end, a combination of consistent practice, adaptation to updates, and an understanding of game mechanics will contribute to improved performance in ranked play. Developers often strive to strike a balance between catering to high-skill players and maintaining an enjoyable experience for the broader player base, recognizing the diverse range of skill levels and playstyles within the community.

[halcyon violet]

And they won't post stats to back it up either

[fervent plume]

i aint reading allat
im happy for you tho, or sorry that happened

[willow wave]

it was for the kid writing formal

[halcyon violet]

@golden crater you have the power to end the debate right now

Just post your ranked stats

[fervent plume]

ye that sticker that someone just sent and got deleted

[dim ferry]

😐

[willow wave]

He's cooking something ( He thought about it a lil bit )

[halcyon violet]

#codm-media

Who cares about base stats what

But please post your ranked stats

And yet I still demolish lobbies with it

[silent jasper]

What's the point of hitting heads with a one shot weapon that's literally flexing 😭

[willow wave]

where the stats broski

[fervent plume]

na45 isnt one shot

[halcyon violet]

Ah yes, the famous "If you win it's bots, if you lose you're bad"

[willow wave]

@safe tangle cooking something real big

[fervent plume]

i can see that

man's making an entire buffet

[halcyon violet]

Still waiting for you to end the debate. Why won't you take two minutes to post your stats?

[dry shell]

Real

🗣️‼️🛬🏢📈🐲

[willow wave]

(Wait till i reply in paragraphs in 2 seconds)

[fierce plinth]

my team wouldn’t get any map control lol

[fervent plume]

watch him reply with "hmm"

would be mad funny tho

[safe tangle]

Well I agree for the most part.
But the "vast playerbase" is a reflection of competetive players but worse .

There's a certain reason why a gun as statistically bad as the grau for example is used.
Ease of use and fire rate
3 tap Ars are notoriously slept over untill recently due to hitbox requirements .
But one head buff later they are treated as uber powerful weaponry which is true but it reflects how something which appears insane on paper but doesn't happen 99 percent of time for almost all players made the drastic shift of usage rates among the "meta pool"

The paragraph on individual skill and gamesense you made is right.
What i meant to say is that
You can be the most skilled in the world but that doesn't provide you with infinite consistency to be consistent with say, an Na45 .
Consistency rules ranked
The more skilled player can use semi consistent weapons or nearly consistent weapons such as the 3 taps or ul736 but never inconsistent weapons like the Na45.

I agree with your practice argument for sure.
But the buffs only really shift the player decision if they appear huge on paper

[plush zealot]

Istg this isn't getting anywhere 💀

[willow wave]

not an excuse for not showing stats

[silent jasper]

It's it the weapon that shoots a bomb?

[dry shell]

I saw 😔

[halcyon violet]

Object nonresponsive.

Also, ADS time doesn't matter for hardscoping. Better hitbox doesn't matter if you can hit head. Reloading every two shots isn't a problem in 99% of scenarios. I don't sit in one corner but go off

[fervent plume]

yes the first bullet is a primer thingy and the 2nd is the detonator

[dry shell]

No hate Noah ❤️

[willow wave]

Your points about the dynamics within the competitive player base are astute and shed light on the intricate balance between statistical performance and practical application in gameplay. The prevalence of certain weapons, like the GRAU despite its apparent statistical shortcomings, highlights the significance of factors beyond raw numbers, such as ease of use and fire rate. It's intriguing how the perception of a weapon can shift dramatically with even minor adjustments, underscoring the delicate interplay between player experience, weapon characteristics, and game balance.

The recent recognition of 3-tap ARs, which were previously overshadowed due to hitbox requirements, further emphasizes how seemingly subtle changes can have a profound impact on weapon choice and meta trends. The shift in usage rates among the "meta pool" reflects not only the statistical potential of these weapons but also their newfound practical viability, highlighting the nuanced relationship between theoretical strength and real-world effectiveness.

Your emphasis on consistency as a pivotal factor in ranked play is spot-on. While skill and game sense are undoubtedly crucial, the ability to reliably perform with a given weapon or loadout is paramount in competitive settings. The distinction between consistent and inconsistent weapons, exemplified by the contrast between 3-tap ARs and more erratic choices like the NA45, underscores the strategic importance of weapon selection in optimizing performance.

[plush zealot]

Bro 💀

[dry shell]

Bro yapping for no reason

[willow wave]

Indeed, while practice and familiarity with mechanics are vital for improving performance, the perceived impact of buffs or changes often hinges on their magnitude and visibility. Substantial alterations are more likely to prompt shifts in player decision-making, as they can significantly alter the balance of power within the game. This further highlights the intricate dance between player perception, developer adjustments, and the evolving meta landscape in competitive gaming environments.

In summary, your insights underscore the multifaceted nature of competitive play, where factors like weapon consistency, practical usability, and the perception of balance all intertwine to shape the strategies and preferences of players within the meta. As the game evolves and adjustments are made, understanding these dynamics becomes increasingly crucial for navigating the ever-shifting landscape of ranked play.

[safe tangle]

Brother is flash

[plush zealot]

The mod is sleeping, paragraph is everywhere

[safe tangle]

Are u using AI cuz I am being fr
I can't type that fast

[halcyon violet]

It's easier yes, but if you can hit head, NA-45 beats Tundra. Just because you can't doesn't mean I can't

[safe tangle]

Cuz he's trolling you idiot

[halcyon violet]

And which is it, am I an aim bitter or a bottom fragger?

[willow wave]

ye

[safe tangle]

Brother I really argued with an AI 😭

[halcyon violet]

Ever heard of preaim

Ads time is one of the least relevant stats

[civic plover]

Y'all have been arguing for like an hour and a half now

[willow wave]

Low iq species won't get it 😔

[safe tangle]

Brother if u hit head then sks beats everything in game

[civic plover]

what happened 😭

[willow wave]

ok bro

[halcyon violet]

Who cares about movement when we've already made it clear we're discussing hardscoping

[safe tangle]

That's just objectively wrong for snipers
Ads time is perhaps the most important aside from flinch and blankscope
And breath hold for hardscoping

[halcyon violet]

You're comparing aggressive sniping to passive sniping

[halcyon violet]

We're discussing hardscoping tho

[willow wave]

you got the whole squad laughing

[silent jasper]

Snipers users using secondary because the enemy is to close
Shot guns users using secondary because the enemy is to far
||shot guns users that truns their shotgun into a sniper with attachments"

[halcyon violet]

Not if you're good

[safe tangle]

Oh i c

[halcyon violet]

If you're good they have equal chance

And NA-45 can hit angles tundra can't

[willow wave]

😔

[halcyon violet]

Not many because of the bad rep

Especially after the nerf a couple seasons ago

Nah because people think it's bad

Not the same

[plush zealot]

Isn't the NA-45 ban in ESport tournament?

[safe tangle]

Just use the hdr or zrg then@halcyon violet
Na45 useless
Those 2 one tap full body
Hdr has 1.56 flinch i.e next to nothing
Their mag size is also better than na45
And they can't make u go boom with ur own projectile

[halcyon violet]

Yes lmao

[halcyon violet]

Again, if you can hit head, rest of the hitbox doesn't matter
NA-45 has 0.12, which is literally nothing
Mag size doesn't matter when hardscoping, you just have to know when to reload
The fact you can go boom with it actually really helps against rushers and hitting angles where you can't see the enemy

[safe tangle]

My brother
Talk from your own perspective
Are you top 5 k
I talk from my grounded view
And not from say comp

[fervent plume]

no way yall are still at it💀

[willow wave]

I just have a There's a subtle sense, almost like a faint breeze, that I might be on the receiving end of some expert trolling. As I engage in conversations and respond to queries, there's a lingering suspicion that the user is orchestrating a clever play, weaving a tapestry of prompts that lead me down unexpected paths. It's a testament to the diverse and unpredictable nature of interactions in this digital realm. Yet, in the spirit of curiosity and open dialogue, I navigate these exchanges with a blend of anticipation and amusement, always ready for the next twist in the conversational plot. After all, in the vast landscape of the internet, the line between genuine inquiry and playful mischief can be delightfully thin.

[halcyon violet]

I have never said it's easier

I only said if you can do it, it's better

[plush zealot]

We do find a couple
The chances of finding them are the same as SKS.

[halcyon violet]

My guy does not understand the concept of a skill ceiling

"If you can maintain accuracy you'll use a gun where you don't need accuracy" what

Just don't miss head

This is the definition of a skill issue

[fervent plume]

i kinda miss head ngl

[halcyon violet]

💀

Yeah and neither do I

[safe tangle]

Brother your argument is just bad here .
By ur hitting the head logic
Sks beats everything in the game for angle holding
And realistically nobody hits heads with na45 on a consistent basis .
Breath hold,one shot capabilities, downtime, maneuvers, rotation everything matters for hardscoping

Na45 you make one blunder and you never recover
You have to rotate to chal again

[plush zealot]

I kinda do for wallbang

[halcyon violet]

I mean I already admitted I'm partially trolling and Tundra is better

[silent jasper]

Shur uo!!!

[safe tangle]

Brother if you're pro you don't need to use anything other than .50 gs

[fervent plume]

ig beef's coming to a close?

[tired flame]

speaking of the secondary thing... someone on the enemy team in tdm ranked last night kept running around with prizefighters and got mvp... his primary was an m4 with no stock and a 4x sniper scope... like he couldnt change his loadout or something? 💀

[plush zealot]

Look like it

[willow wave]

I appreciate your perspective on the matter, and it's clear that you value the versatility and consistency of the SKS for angle holding. It's true that the NA-45 may require a higher level of precision and skill due to its one-shot capabilities and the need for careful planning to avoid potential pitfalls.

Each sniper rifle has its strengths and weaknesses, and the choice between them often comes down to personal playstyle and preferences. It's great to hear different opinions on the matter as it adds depth to the discussions within the gaming community. If you have any specific points you'd like to discuss further or if there's another aspect of the debate you'd like to explore, feel free to share your thoughts.

[civic plover]

Yeah, ngl I think I only ran into like 1 or two SKS users in ranked throughout the entirety of last year

[silent jasper]

When u got bots on your team😔

[empty geyser]

Level 7 better

[thin hare]

I'm back was banned 💀

[dusky sand]

This game has the easiest ranked

[safe tangle]

That's objectively true
That's what I meant by "skill only carries u so far"
One can't be consistent with headshots
Pros are semi consistent with 1 shot to head,chest,upper arm for 3 Rd range drh 3 tap
Ain't no way bro said heads are consistent

[fervent plume]

tool assisted speedrun

[halcyon violet]

SKS is good because of its forgiveness if you don't hit head. If you do, it's the same as any other sniper
I hit consistently 50-70% headshots
Breath hold is useless, just let go of ads for a split second and reenter. Again, assuming you can hit head, it has identical one shot capabilities. Downtime is actually very manageable. Yeah rotation matters but I've never struggled with it

All weapons are like that

[tired flame]

randoms with 0.5 iq

[plush zealot]

For me it's like 1-3 times a day (1 hour) in the top 5k

[halcyon violet]

I've only been trolling since I said NA-45 was better than tundra

[safe tangle]

I just disagree on the factor that
Headshots are a factor in the argument at all
Headshot is not something that's consistent no matter your skill level .

[thin hare]

Sks hard to use unless u playing passive

[idle wren]

Big head blizzard is the dumbest gamemode ever wtf is this

[halcyon violet]

I'm still serious about thumbs being a valid way to play

[willow wave]

I understand your point about the challenges of consistently hitting headshots, especially in the fast-paced environment of gaming. Indeed, relying solely on precision can be difficult, and it's true that even professional players may face difficulties in maintaining perfect accuracy.

It's fascinating how different weapons require various skill sets and strategies, and the debate around skill versus other factors continues to be a central topic in gaming communities. Whether it's the nuances of weapon handling, map awareness, or overall game sense, there are multiple facets to consider.

If you have any specific aspects of the discussion you'd like to explore or if there are other elements of gaming you find interesting, feel free to share, and we can delve deeper into the conversation.

[tired flame]

im always stuck with them.... rush and die

[thin hare]

How do ppl play sks aggressive to hard I think sks passive gun

[tired flame]

good for grinding headshots

[halcyon violet]

Renetti >

[willow wave]

It "was"

[silent jasper]

I ain't reading allat
But I'm happy for you
Or sorry that happened

[halcyon violet]

What are you high on bc I want some

[thin hare]

Yup

[halcyon violet]

Akimbo Dobvra is awful

Renetti has unlimited one burst range

[thin hare]

Hate dobvra spammers

[halcyon violet]

9 bursts is more than enough

[willow wave]

you arab?

[halcyon violet]

No because I don't need it

[fervent plume]

i love annoying people with gung ho + 160 mag full auto akimbo makarovs in shipment

[halcyon violet]

I don't have to use nine bursts to kill enemies and get to a safe place

[civic plover]

It's prob a bit different for me cuz the highest I've grinded to was GMIV, bordering on GMV

[halcyon violet]

Good for you

[thin hare]

Pistols are useless imo

[silent jasper]

How does everyone know

[halcyon violet]

Also by this logic RPD is the best gun in the game

[willow wave]

It's like 1am rn 💀

[safe tangle]

50-70 percent headshots is not something even world champions do .
Brother either ur overselling urself or ur mistaken or you're some 1/8000 trillion people.
Either way
Your own success with na45 doesn't really matter since it doesn't reflect the majority of the playerbase in the fact that na45 headshots is inconsistent
Headshots as a hitbox is inconsistent
It's undeniable.
Like even then
Xpr >>> na45 then
It scopes in like it's the flash from dceu and it's so fast in mobility and other advantages about which I could go on about why it's better than na45
You also only needs 1 headshot with xpr
And xpr is much faster

[thin hare]

No it's not rpd bot gun campers with cooling surpressor

[willow wave]

1:03

[safe tangle]

Brother is that u or Ai
The chat is so fast

[fervent plume]

lemme guess, you're a karambit + fast switch + amped dlq user?

[willow wave]

I appreciate your perspective, and you bring up valid points regarding the challenges and inconsistencies associated with achieving a high percentage of headshots, particularly with the NA-45. It's essential to acknowledge that individual success with a specific weapon may not necessarily translate to widespread effectiveness across the entire player base.

You also make a compelling comparison with the XPR, emphasizing its advantages such as faster mobility, quicker scope-in times, and the efficiency of needing just one headshot. The diversity in weapon preferences and playstyles across the gaming community adds to the richness of these discussions.

If there are specific aspects of the NA-45 or XPR debate you'd like to delve deeper into or if there are other aspects of gaming you find interesting, feel free to share, and we can continue exploring the conversation.

[thin hare]

Where u from
No I use locus and I don't use karambit

[safe tangle]

No offense

[fervent plume]

that thing is loud af, i can hear it across the map

[civic plover]

It's not a shipment match without someone running akimbo or chain stabbing people like they're Spy TF2

[thin hare]

I use assault knife but now I'm using machete feels more smooth for me

[fervent plume]

looks and feels satisfying, but it just gives away ur position too much

[safe tangle]

Stawp
I ain't paid to be an AI versus fighter

[willow wave]

Indeed it's me "Reset" . The chat can indeed move quickly sometimes. If there's anything specific you'd like to discuss or ask, feel free to let me know, and we can keep the conversation going at a pace that works for you!

[thin hare]

Is it me or bots have insane accuracy 💀

[tired flame]

me who uses machete mahogany shooter

[willow wave]

[fervent plume]

aight people im done making half of the card imma head off to sleep now

[safe tangle]

They miss like 3 bullets
Then flick and 1 tap with the bizon or mow

[tired flame]

best machete ngl

[thin hare]

Yh legit always mow or kn44

[plush zealot]

People use NA-45 similar to contact grenades or thumper. Some rather reach the corner spot without aiming at the body

[willow wave]

I wasted an hour 😔 (1am rn for me )

[violet flicker]

Car

[thin hare]

Where u from

[halcyon violet]

Again, I have only said NA-45 is better if you hit headshots. And I'm pretty sure I've made it clear that we're discussing hardscoping. XPR's mobility advantages don't matter much for hardscoping

[fervent plume]

2 35 for me

am

[thin hare]

I'm starting to play br now more instead of mp

[safe tangle]

Brother just use zrg then
100 m full body 1 tap
You don't even need semi auto

[willow wave]

Dubai

[thin hare]

Raahh only 21:05 for me

[halcyon violet]

Take 2 minutes to post stats first

[thin hare]

Nice

[tired flame]

ok?...

[halcyon violet]

He's just afraid that my NA-45 stats are better than his overall stats

[fervent plume]

LMAO

[violet flicker]

Not ok

[willow wave]

His game takes 5 mins 🤓

to load up

[halcyon violet]

Yeah no that's cap

[thin hare]

Alr sfe I'm off I'm hungry asf

[halcyon violet]

He was arguing for over 2 hours

[willow wave]

Fr

[halcyon violet]

He could spare 5 minutes even if that was true

[plush zealot]

I understand your point. Though ZRG doesn't have the same purpose as NA-45. What really comes down to this is all personal preference.

[violet flicker]

Its 23:07 for me i want to sleep but grind never stops

[willow wave]

Absolutely, you've hit the nail on the head. The ZRG and NA-45 indeed serve different purposes in the game, catering to different playstyles and situations. Personal preference plays a significant role in choosing the right weapon, considering factors like handling, range, and overall comfort.

It's great that Call of Duty offers a variety of weapons, allowing players to find what suits them best. If there's a particular aspect of this discussion or any other gaming-related topic you'd like to explore further, feel free to share, and we can dive deeper into the conversation.

[tired flame]

ok ._.

[tired flame]

then just keep grinding

[willow wave]

Imma go sleep

[plush zealot]

Ah yes, even the ChatGPT agree with it 💀

[plush zealot]

Sweet dream

[safe tangle]

Who said they don't?
For recentering, repeeking it's ads time is a huge advantage
For jiggle peeks it's strafe is a huge advantage
For peeking from a different angle in case of a blunder it's movement is a massive advantage
You need to understand you're talking in 1/a bazillion possibility where na45 thrives

@dj.molinaro#0000 personal preference says chicom >> swordfish according to someone
Both bursts and both similar in mobility.
Is the preference valid?

[violet flicker]

Ok

[willow wave]

✌️

[willow wave]

You raise some excellent points about the advantages of the ZRG in various situations, especially when it comes to its ADS time, strafing capabilities, and movement advantages. These factors indeed contribute significantly to its effectiveness in gameplay scenarios like recentering, repeeking, jiggle peeks, and recovering from blunders.

Regarding personal preference, you're absolutely right that individual preferences can vary widely, even if weapons seem similar on the surface. Your analogy with the Chicoms and Swordfish highlights this perfectly. While both may have similarities in terms of being burst weapons with similar mobility, personal preference ultimately dictates which feels better to use for each player.

So, to answer your question, yes, personal preference is entirely valid in determining one's choice of weapon. What works best for one player may not necessarily be the same for another, and that's the beauty of gaming—it allows for diverse playstyles and preferences.

If there are any other aspects of this discussion or any other gaming-related topics you'd like to explore further, feel free to let me know!

[safe tangle]

Ik ur trolling joseph
But it's a bit far fetched to say na45 is good
When we ignore every aspect out of 20 possible stats laid over 50 scenarios and consider
Hardscope headshot

[violet flicker]

Ain't reading allat

[safe tangle]

I genuinely wanna kick u in the nuts now
Sorry 😭

[silent jasper]

Real

[willow wave]

I luv cars 🥰

[violet flicker]

Real

[willow wave]

[safe tangle]

I am typing this stuff
And then AI yapps in my face

[willow wave]

You gotta accept it

[halcyon violet]

#general-discussion-💫 don't have link perms so had to use replies

[violet flicker]

What was your best #edge of the year

[silent jasper]

I'm Batman 1am is just a number

[halcyon violet]

And yes those are my clips from one game, I asked someone else to post them in that channel

[violet flicker]

Im saying something really stupid

[violet flicker]

Im human she was 18 by dog years

What was that

[willow wave]

So she was of age

[violet flicker]

Yes

[soft briar]

i want mythic or legendary gun

[violet flicker]

My hampter goes wroom im happy

[tired flame]

ok, then buy it

[halcyon violet]

Realistically
That's easily possible with a zrg and that scenario is rarer than a blue moon .

Like
Nuketown map
The enemy has to stand specifically there
You have to be safe from window campers
Disregard ads time
And like 50 more factors

I mean none of those clips could have been done by ZRG consistently. The window shot you would have to penetrate and hit head (very hard), the garage is actually a pretty frequent kill for me, people never expect it. The man laying down behind the wall is completely impossible with any other weapon. And I had just killed the window camper before the garage kill so I wasn't worried

[violet flicker]

You are the most straight human I ever seen

[halcyon violet]

And you don't disregard ADS time, you manage it

There's a difference

[safe tangle]

@halcyon violet tbh man all you provided is something zrg or hdr can accomplish easier while not having to accomodate 50 enviornment factors like na45
Consistency rules the game
I can say deagle >>> every other Ar,pistol,smg ,lmg,shotgun in specifically the case it one taps to head till it's effective range and has good bsa .
It's really lost cause if you're debating something that's gonna happen once a 1000 games (exaggerated)@halcyon violet

[tired flame]

ok?....

[violet flicker]

What the hell

[safe tangle]

One can only manage so much

[violet flicker]

K

[halcyon violet]

It just happened 3 times in one game, with 3 clips that ZRG and HDR can't do period, not just harder

[safe tangle]

Zrg can shoot you in the foot and 1 tap.
It's wallbang capability is good too .
Then we have all the other advantages over the na45

[plush zealot]

I noticed the ping wasn't working in this msg.
Chicom and swordfish have different overall stats. Sure they may look the same, but performance-wise is not exactly the same. I can't say it's valid, they both have their outstands.

[violet flicker]

Only reason i play the game is gun make sound bullets go pew pew pew enemy die im happy
And also my best friend dad

[safe tangle]

They absolutely can
On shot to everywhere
And especially hdr
Hdr with fmj can basically do everything you just said

[safe tangle]

Hold up lets say that guy says
Ksp >>>> chicom
They play basically the same
But his preference is just wrong
They have ~ stats

[halcyon violet]

It can't one tap foot. 99% of the time anywhere you could wallbang someone you could edge peek with NA-45 instead. It does have some advantages, yes, but as I've said about 30 times provided you're hardscoping and can hit head, most of those advantages go away and get outweighed by the advantages of NA-45

[violet flicker]

What y'all yaping about
I just use gun that i think is cool

[safe tangle]

Brother hdr with fmj can do it.
Hardscoping isn't only reliant on ads time and accuracy
And "if you can hit head"
My brother please
Stop this
Most hardscoping snipers rely on body shots 😭
Body shots are 10 x or more consistent than head
Not joking

[violet flicker]

Im curious can i send here Shrek . Art

[halcyon violet]

I guess ZRG can technically one tap foot with Ant vehicle but 🤢

[violet flicker]

Answer is no

I cant

[safe tangle]

Hdr can too till 45 meters
Also with fmj
Wallbang issue is gone
And hdr has free slot for fmj

[halcyon violet]

HDR with FMJ would still have to hit upper chest or head. You need to know exactly where they are, much harder than just shooting wall. And yeah most snipers rely on body shots but NA-45 doesn't. It doesn't behave like other snipers so stop comparing it 1-1 with other snipers

[thin basin]

Can you get a legendary gun for free? And how

[indigo pasture]

the m4

just login with activision and play five free for alls and u get it in like 10 mins

[halcyon violet]

Again, wall banging is harder than simply shooting wall, and 9/10 times with other wall bangs NA-45 can just explode and accomplish the same thing without guessing where the enemy is

[plush zealot]

Log out and log in to your Activision acc’ and complete 5 matches

[thin basin]

Okay thanks

[violet flicker]

I just realised i have homework to do

[halcyon violet]

But as I've said, NA-45 doesn't fill the same niche as other snipers so I'm not sure why you're comparing it to them

It's like comparing SMGs and LMGs

[plush zealot]

Exactly

[halcyon violet]

Or more accurately it's like comparing thumper to SMRS. "Oh they're both launchers"

Also feel free to ask DJ most NA-45 players in ranked are absolute menaces

[candid canopy]

I need any legendary weapon, please. I can't afford it.....

[violet flicker]

Legendary m4

Is free

[candid canopy]

Yes please

How to get it?

[violet flicker]

Activate account play 5 games in Multiplayer

Easy for hella nice skin

[halcyon violet]

Plus I have the stats to back it up. I've got a 60% win rate on opening ranked week, > 2 k/d, and almost 50% MVP rate with NA-45. What else do you want from me?

[willow wave]

Hello cod of duty poeple

[safe tangle]

By your logic na45 can't even be declared better than other snipers except that very specific exposure scenario with wallbang included which is something that any player doesn't encounter?

Map pool with multiple maps → nuketown→ enemy standing in that exact spot→ no window challenging enemy → no other hardscopers→ no blunders→ perfect headshot .

Brother that's basically never
You might have done it thrice
But it doesn't make the na45 good
It's the only weapon for it's category
It isn't an smrs vs fhj comparison where one just overshadows the other .
Nor is it like thumper where say m4 barrel or contact nade replicates what it does .
It's like d13 sector
It's unique but it's condition barely ever happens for 99 Percent people.
The Na45's rhetorical head argument can be used for every single sniper.
You'll notice
Almost all snipers have a scope in time of 384 ms or better
Which is why the snipers barely every hardscope
Hdr is more consistent 8/10 times
Same with zrg comparing both to na45
And both can still be used quickscope with the help of blankscope.

So in a game where every sniper can quickscope and hardscope

Na45 which only has 1 niche in hardscope
A very specific one at that
It doesn't even make it decent.

Snipers → meta options → quickscoper hardscoper hybrid → quickscopers → hardscoper → na45
Keeping in mind you need demo expert on Na45 for effective use
Sacrificing blue perks

As I said your personal stats are useless.
The world champion can nuke people with s36
Doesn't change the fact s36 is god awful trash
No offense
Anyways it's 3 am now
It's redundant arguing about it when u have the same point of head over and over.
I am sorry if I offended u in any way

[halcyon violet]

Howdy do you do

[candid canopy]

I have to logout my present FB account?

[tired flame]

no

[willow wave]

Nice

[tired flame]

activision account

[violet flicker]

There was 4 of them they were 5 so combined thew were 20 i didn't do any crime officer

[willow wave]

What?

[violet flicker]

If it doesn't count normally as activated account then leave and join your account again

[violet flicker]

She were 18 by dog years

[livid tulip]

Ak 47 loadout?

[safe tangle]

@halcyon violet i recommend we end it
I am tired now

[safe tangle]

Mono, ranger,no stock,gran,50 round
Passive 47 is great

[livid tulip]

👍

[violet flicker]

That guy is planning something

[safe tangle]

He might be
Basically countering my every point.
But all the claims so far have been very disingenious no offense

So I am not worried
Just tired about writing everything again

[violet flicker]

Bro my English level is that i know what your words mean but i cant translate them that fast

What wrong with me

[glacial trout]

interesting read but what the hell

[safe tangle]

I am Indian
According to racism I am supposed to go
Goo goo ga ga

[violet flicker]

So you have cheaper cp

[safe tangle]

I have never bought anything in game
Nor have I ever bought a game so lol

[violet flicker]

I too

[safe tangle]

For that reason I never checked cp prices

[radiant sedge]

Gimme $200 and I’ll leave

[violet flicker]

I thinking about buying my best friend dad battle pass cus its 100% that she will complete it

[halcyon violet]

First, that encounter actually happens 2-3 times a game on average on Nuketown maps. 2nd, that was just one example game. There are scenarios like this on almost every map. The only one I haven't really found a good NA-45 spot like this on is Apocalypse.

I did it thrice in one game. That's at least 3 extra kills per game that no other gun could get.
The condition rarely happens because people rarely use the gun. It takes lots of practice to learn where NA-45 is more effective.
The head argument can be used for all snipers, but the point of it was that if all snipers can hit head, NA-45 wins out because of the additional techs it can do.
Snipers barely hardscoping is a choice. I've never said and never will say that NA-45 is a better aggressive sniper.
HDR and ZRG might be more forgiving for body shots, but again, we're specifically referring to a high% headshot.
NA-45 arguably has the best hipfire/blankscope of any sniper in the game.

Demo Expert is no longer needed for NA-45 btw. HE ammo can kill a Flak user without the help of Demo Expert, even up to a meter away.

World champion being able to nuke with S36 is proof that in the right hands, S36 is far better than god awful trash. I'll never recommend NA-45 to a beginner or an average player because it takes a lot of work before it becomes good

Alright sounds good, this'll be my final message about it
None taken, for the most part this debate was pretty respectful and we only attacked ideas rather than people

[glacial trout]

[violet flicker]

What the hell

[halcyon violet]

Average codm player when they see someone type more than two sentences:

[violet flicker]

I will not read all this yapping

[safe tangle]

Ah so basically you added nothing to what i said.
This doesn't counter any of my points in any way aside from 2 claims.
A lot of fallacious waffle too
No offense once again

[violet flicker]

Yws

I can read books on English but im on discord not for reading that much

My braing go broken

But still whe does my English is i know what words mean but to translate that i heed to think

[safe tangle]

"in the right hands in a situation majority of the playerbase doesn't encounter"
Again
Why not just the deagle
Deagle with 13 bsa
One tap to head everyone in existence and make every other gun aside from snipers useless.
Or why not burst m16
It can one burst
But swordfish makes it look trash in comparison
S36 is statistically bad
In no way shape or form is that ever changing.
Like if I played vs wc
Wc nuked me with s36
And I had the Holger
Doesn't make s36 anywhere comparable anyway
S36 max range in mp is basically Holger 's 4 shot range
Holger does upto 25-30 meters
And then 50 m 5 shot
And s36 effective range is 30 ish meters including 5 shots
With poor bsa, mobility,worse mag and garbage overall damage profile .
So stats > how the player plays with the gun
You can be amazing with a trash gun
It doesn't make the gun amazing

[violet flicker]

I can't believe i read all that

[safe tangle]

I think we are clear

[violet flicker]

I want to explode.

[rain anvil]

I need HELP

[violet flicker]

No

[fleet horizon]

What’s your problem

[willow wave]

What?

[violet flicker]

Office let me out of here they were both 10 so she was 20 whats the problem

[white stirrup]

I m here for giveaway 🙂

[rain anvil]

it telling me to login to my cod account and it not letting me get the gun

[willow wave]

Reopen codm

[rain anvil]

Ok

[willow wave]

If you logged in

Also you have to get 5 mp wins i think i dont fully remember

[rain anvil]

I already did that : )

[safe tangle]

@halcyon violet I hope my perspective is understandable tbh
I guess we agree to disagree
Though in this scenario the inclination of the playerbase from stats analysts to pros would incline in my favour.
It doesn't change the fact that you're one hell of a skilled player for making this trash(imo) effective
You're a good debater too

[willow wave]

Alr then just reopen codm

[violet flicker]

Its 0:00 in my country i will expode

[willow wave]

Lol same

[rain anvil]

Ok

[violet flicker]

My mistake almost 0:00

[violet flicker]

In what county are you🤫🧏

[willow wave]

Syria halfway across the planet

[violet flicker]

Dayum

[violet flicker]

Im only in Ukraine

[safe tangle]

@atomic bronze
This is the one u wanted for hdr and stuff

[willow wave]

Oh its 0:45 not 0:00 mb

[violet flicker]

Its 23:44 almost 0

[atomic bronze]

Na45, IN BR?

BRUH

[safe tangle]

No offense but I hate people like that.
I mean you have got nothing related to the debate but when people do that after challenging a point
Takes the piss Outta me

[safe tangle]

Mp

[atomic bronze]

Thank goodnes

Still as bad but i was scared for a moment

[violet flicker]

I couldn't even edge to this i alredy exploded to this

[willow wave]

Ya so am one hour ahead

[marsh chasm]

[violet flicker]

Too fast

Im thinking should i play cod or have almost normal sleep

[violet flicker]

Go...
Sleep

[willow wave]

Def co- normal sleep

[violet flicker]

Real

[safe tangle]

3:17 am 😭

[atomic bronze]

22 47

[violet flicker]

What the hell is am you cant measure europe in miles AHH

[loud furnace]

.

[violet flicker]

Im now just curious is there people from Ukraine or Russia here

[safe tangle]

A.M
Or basically 3:17 in 24 hour clock

[sick elm]

i wanna dance with somebody

[violet flicker]

So you can measure europe in miles huh

[safe tangle]

I am too sleepy to understand that unfortunately

Measure eu?
Why ,what

I don't get it

[violet flicker]

There is joke that you cant measure freedom in kilometers

[halcyon violet]

yeah no I completely understand, the majority of players will never be able to use NA-45 effectively, especially after the nerf 3 seasons ago, but I think we can agree that at 0% headshot it's awful, 100% it can outperform other snipers, so theoretically there's some point where it becomes more effective to use it over other snipers, even if it's like 85% and never obtainable by anyone

Also go to bed

[safe tangle]

Idk I ain't American

[violet flicker]

Also

[halcyon violet]

But yeah very situational weapon for sure

Totally get where you're coming from

[violet flicker]

I have bblhh

[safe tangle]

I mean statistically
There's always 1 in an X number of possibilities
Any gun outperforms any other gun .
Like striker 45 outperforming drh at a specific range

[violet flicker]

Big Black long haired hamster

[atomic bronze]

Even with hewdshots i disagree ot can beat ither snipers. Fast ads time snipers will always be better. By that logic sks is better than all snipers but people dont 1 shot snipe with sks do they? Zhey use it as dmr

[safe tangle]

Brother don't copy paste my argument

[halcyon violet]

Castellanos seriously go to bed

[violet flicker]

Let Castellanos to sleep

[atomic bronze]

Michi do you think i read all of your arguments

[atomic bronze]

I aint reading allat

I read his tho

[halcyon violet]

We've been discussing hardscoping the whole time, ADS time doesn't matter. And yeah SKS is better than other snipers, which is why it's banned in comp lmao

[safe tangle]

No
That's exactly why ur a monkey
Well I suppose..

Since you also came to a conclusion to sks first thing
That means we're both monkeys fuiyoh

[violet flicker]

Go to bed

[violet flicker]

Go to bed

[halcyon violet]

And it's used for body bc it's so forgiving and still has a blistering ttk on bodies

[atomic bronze]

Monkey gallore day 6 this guy

[late echo]

its not that deep

just use whatever tf u want

[halcyon violet]

Exactly

[violet flicker]

Real

[atomic bronze]

But who says head will always be exposed. What ab that?

And low mag capacity

[halcyon violet]

If head isn't exposed, you can literally just blow them up

In fact if none of the body is visible, or only feet, NA-45 is the only one that can kill

[atomic bronze]

Doesnt allow you to kill multiple opponents in quick succesion

There is a myriad of problems why the na45 isnt used

[halcyon violet]

I can count on one hand the number of times I've had 3 or more people on one screen that I couldn't blow up

[safe tangle]

Fallacious argument my guy .

Drh is also banned in comp
But em2 is the better gun everywhere except fire rate
Drh has like 2-4 ms better fire rate

[quartz swift]

Yes it will, there’s a special place in hell for players who exploit certain positions that only reveal their head but from their prespective can see other players clearly

[halcyon violet]

Wat

[atomic bronze]

Exactly

[violet flicker]

If Castellanos will not go to sleep i will kill myself

[halcyon violet]

Statistically EM2 is the worst MP auto

[safe tangle]

It isn't

[atomic bronze]

[halcyon violet]

Oh wait that was Castellanos

Why tf are you still up

[violet flicker]

Go to sleep

[halcyon violet]

Go to bed

[atomic bronze]

Never ever cook again bro

[quartz swift]

Statistically,

If you mean outside of effective range

Yes, it is bad

[atomic bronze]

Exactly bruv using em2 at 100m range lol

[quartz swift]

Consider this though

[atomic bronze]

Em2 second best 3 tap after hvk

[quartz swift]

Em2 has one of the highest mobility for a weapon of its kind with only one attachment

[atomic bronze]

2 if you add sturdy

[quartz swift]

No, i mean movement speed

[atomic bronze]

Oh striker fg right?

[quartz swift]

Agile stock

[atomic bronze]

Tjats what i meamt by firts attachment lol. 2nd sturdy cuz ads speed

I know its handling but i count it as mobility

[quartz swift]

@halcyon violet since now we know the downside of em2, why not we discuss why it’s good at what it does?

[wide depot]

Hiii

[quartz swift]

I love em2 despite it failing me at certain ranges

[halcyon violet]

sure it's good at what it does but it doesn't come close to DR-H

[quartz swift]

?

[wide depot]

Nah

[safe tangle]

Em2 vs drh
Em2 - tfb,sturdy grip tape,40 round,agency,ykm light stock
Drh mono ,ranger,no stock, gran,25 otm
Drh has 105 ms fire rate
Em2 has 112
Em2 nearly double mag size,3.33 strafe vs 3 m/s on drh
Drh is 29 m 1 hit to head ,chest full arms for 3 tap
Till 1 hit to head ,chest or upper arms only for 33 m 3 tap
Em2 has consistent 1 hit to head chest full arms 3 tap till 37 meters .
Em2 has similar base movement to drh .
Em2 has better bsa
Better initial bsa
Em2 has 0.4 flinch vs drh 0.8 flinch
Drh reload faster
Em2 is simply better

[violet flicker]

BRO Just go to bed Please

[safe tangle]

@halcyon violet

[atomic bronze]

@halcyon violet use tfb on em2

[quartz swift]

It is much closer comparison to drh, similar recoil too, only the visuals are tricky

[violet flicker]

I heed to say that
Rest in Peace😘

[atomic bronze]

Em2>drh i would say

[halcyon violet]

Or I will send a pipe bomb to your mailbox

[quartz swift]

No, that is objectively not true

[violet flicker]

Too

[halcyon violet]

TFB is the blue line directly underneath main

[safe tangle]

People overrated it having bv
It doesn't even matter on it ngl
But em2 >> drh

[wide depot]

Nobody talking bout the ots

[atomic bronze]

Objectively is harsh line

[halcyon violet]

nah

it is objectively worse

[wide depot]

That is a great gun

[quartz swift]

It is, because it is true it’s not better than drh

[atomic bronze]

Whats bv on em2 tfb michi?

[halcyon violet]

that's because that's an smg and we're talking ars

[halcyon violet]

don't respond to themt

[atomic bronze]

No most stats em2 has better except rof

[halcyon violet]

they need to go to sleep

[safe tangle]

@quartz swift drh has 14 ms faster ttk
Faster reload
And em2 gets everywhere else
That's it my dude

[wide depot]

Ok

But still

[safe tangle]

1100 +

[violet flicker]

Sleep now

[safe tangle]

Shut up for a bit

[wide depot]

Everyone talking smack about it

[halcyon violet]

Executive decision, putting the argument on hold for at least an hour

that way catellanos can finally go to bed

[atomic bronze]

Nearly entire first range is hitscan then

[atomic bronze]

20m

[violet flicker]

I will kill myself

[safe tangle]

Yes
And the additional ms doesn't impact win or loss when it's only 2 frames

[atomic bronze]

I gotta go to sleep too now

[atomic bronze]

33ms lel

[safe tangle]

Goodnight y'alls

[willow wave]

Dont it will kill you

[wide depot]

Do it

[willow wave]

which is the difference between a reactive and non reactive camo

[violet flicker]

Probably

[late echo]

changes when u get kills

[halcyon violet]

reactives change appearance based on kills

[empty geyser]

The gun stars glowing kinda when u get kills

[willow wave]

is krm leggy one of them?

[halcyon violet]

yes

[willow wave]

Ya idk am not a human... Professional

[violet flicker]

Nah I'd lose

[halcyon violet]

pretty sure

[civic plover]

Yeah, it's been nearly 3 hours of y'all comparing guns

[halcyon violet]

the gold angular one?

[violet flicker]

Me too bro me too

[wide depot]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[quartz swift]

Let us be this is the most fun i’ve seen this channel be

[willow wave]

its name was glorious or sum

[halcyon violet]

yeah

like glorious blaze

pretty sure it's reactive

[willow wave]

and uh does anyone know full draw with 20cp start?

[empty geyser]

No

[willow wave]

for reactive leggy

[wide depot]

F

Fffc

Ff

F

[halcyon violet]

mythic will cost 10k, so probably around 7-8k

[willow wave]

the mythic costs 10850 but not sure about leggy

[civic plover]

Yeah, I will be fair. At least of those hours was a four-way argument of people insulting each other

[marsh chasm]

Maybe send the less low quality picture in media @halcyon violet? I like the chart but barely can tell any difference

[empty geyser]

20 CP: 8,675
20 / 55 / 80 / 210 / 350 / 560 / 900 / 1,400 / 1,900 / 3,200

[willow wave]

ah thanks

[civic plover]

That devolved into a back and forth

[empty geyser]

Its not

[late echo]

for NA?

isn't it around 15k

[empty geyser]

NA reactive is 12.630

[late echo]

is that type 19?

[empty geyser]

No

[empty geyser]

Mythic is 14.730

[late echo]

hmm

[fierce plinth]

type 19 mythic is crazy

[empty geyser]

Agreed

[fierce plinth]

i like it

[empty geyser]

Same but ima prolly not max it for now

Need myself the sword

[empty geyser]

Prices for 30 cp draws, id guess u have those when u asked for na

[late echo]

ya

[empty geyser]

[late echo]

is the t19 worth

[empty geyser]

Kinda

[late echo]

i alr hvae the ice drake idk if i want another ar

[marsh chasm]

Haha funi gun go brrrrr

[empty geyser]

😎

[halcyon violet]

I'll just send the full chart, then people can actually edit it and use the other stuff on it

disclaimer tho it doesn't take into account bv and assumes max range attachments

I've still got to do BSA calculations before I can work more on my more complete version

[dire drift]

As a f2p player, I will forever be grateful they added a free legendary that isn’t hard to get lol

[violet flicker]

Not really royal black worker

[empty geyser]

hard to get?

[halcyon violet]

tinyurl / 3u75r23e links to a dropbox with the spreadsheet @marsh chasm

[dire drift]

Spelling mistake sorry

[empty geyser]

Nvm saw it

mb

[willow wave]

yeah I think I saw a leak a while ago that said we had to log in 100 days in a row to get the m4 and I was so scared because I definitely would have missed some days

[empty geyser]

[raw mauve]

Garbage

[marsh chasm]

Send me the file or link

[dire drift]

Np you were too quick for me

[violet flicker]

You think other way

[empty geyser]

Thats what they all say

[willow wave]

I didn't get the DRH unfortunately though I started playing later in the season and I was too lazy to grind BR

[halcyon violet]

...I just did

[dire drift]

Yeah I saw that too, that wouldn’t have been to bad either

[late echo]

fennec issue

[raw mauve]

????

[dire drift]

damn

[halcyon violet]

That tinyurl links to a dropbox with the spreadsheet

[raw mauve]

Hi That1guy

[halcyon violet]

can't post actual files or links here tho

hey benji

if you want I can dm it to you @marsh chasm

[willow wave]

this season's tournament camo is an L ngl I was hoping for something better

[empty geyser]

[tired flame]

looks better on white guns like the bk flash freeze, ak117 archtoxin, ect

[violet flicker]

I just realised that fenek is literally food name

[willow wave]

it lowkey looks like diamond

[raw mauve]

True, nothing still exceeds my Blue Polychromatic

[tired flame]

not rlly

[raw mauve]

Same same

[tired flame]

poly is pretty decent

[raw mauve]

Sup?

[empty geyser]

W combo

[tired flame]

nice

[willow wave]

Jade tournament camo one is my favorite

[raw mauve]

Yah dude

[violet flicker]

No big black worker?

[tired flame]

the gun names

[tired flame]

[empty geyser]

[halcyon violet]

hit gm1 today, hbu?

[violet flicker]

How much fingers?

[raw mauve]

Just finished grinding last night, still love the Fennec, as usual, will probably grind whenever I have the chance.

[raw mauve]

🖐🏻

[halcyon violet]

oh also got into a fight with a dude who automatically assumed I bottom fragged because I play thumbs

[violet flicker]

Thats much

[violet flicker]

1 more than me

[sick elm]

[raw mauve]

Hehe

[violet flicker]

I just dont know where to put more fingers

[raw mauve]

I got into a fight with someone for speaking Spanish and we threw insults at each other for literally over an hour.

[raw mauve]

I don't suggest learning a new hud

Consistency will forever be the ultimate key

[violet flicker]

Idk i played on three now im on 4

[violet flicker]

Real

[raw mauve]

Oh here's a better double Fennec leggy shot

[violet flicker]

Is 17 times from 19 total seasons played legendary rank on br is good
Asking for my best friend dad

Only after that chat died

[sick elm]

no

[empty geyser]

Normally im a hater

[violet flicker]

😭

[wheat pier]

[violet flicker]

🤫🧏

[willow wave]

bro is deaf

[violet flicker]

Ye

I sense player by their croshair tickling my head

[cyan shoal]

Have they made a fix for people who already got linked Activision account for M4

[paper torrent]

My man

Bro hates snipers more than I do

[tired flame]

not that i know of

[cyan shoal]

Why couldn't they do like another task for those who have would make sense and be easier but it's never easy with them is it

[hasty mist]

you guys complain too much

garena had to play rank and wait idk a week to perm claim the leggy while us global just need to login and play 5 pubs

[empty geyser]

Just logout and login again? I did the same

[tired flame]

idc about the m4 leggy

its ass and useless to me since i never use the m4

[hasty mist]

same it’s an m4

[violet flicker]

Is im the only one who just joined the game and alredy hat completed it?

[empty geyser]

Its too much hype about some ugly ahh gun

[tired flame]

starter rifle

[hasty mist]

unless your a br main i don’t see the m4 being used

[quartz swift]

Had they given it to m13..

[empty geyser]

br is unplayable rn

[violet flicker]

I will edge on you

[tired flame]

im a br main but i use the kilo and ak117

[cyan shoal]

That doesn't work

[hasty mist]

it does

[empty geyser]

Well did for me

[hasty mist]

did it on both my smurf accounts

[quartz swift]

Not sure how that doesn’t work unless you didn’t use an Activision log-in

[cyan shoal]

You can't log out of you Activision account

[quartz swift]

Like, go to the log in section and tap Activision account

[tired flame]

you can

u just cant unlink it from codm

[cyan shoal]

No I'm logging in with Facebook

[quartz swift]

Yes you can it’s located in settings> legal and privacy

[tired flame]

ok

[empty geyser]

Log out ingame, log in using activision and the type yo passwort in and boom m4

[quartz swift]

That’s why

[cyan shoal]

No it is not

[empty geyser]

Im aswell

[quartz swift]

Yes it is

[tired flame]

but u need to log into codm thru activison account to get the m4

[quartz swift]

Don’t deny me now, you know they specifically stated it’s an Activision account that requires it

[cyan shoal]

Bet it won't work

[empty geyser]

Blud im connected with facebook and got the m4 cuz i logged out, logged in with activision, logged out again and went back to facebook

[tired flame]

it does

[tired flame]

noice

[quartz swift]

Alright who’s your favorite service that Actively Violates your Human Rights?

[violet flicker]

Ea

[quartz swift]

All Hail the low effort