#Goggle/system change dilemma

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tepid swallow
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I kind of already explained it in #🧾shopping-advice but I think it’s best to make a separate thread. Anyway, here’s the original message:

Ok, so im in kind of a dilemma right now. Currently I own the avatar goggles X and some HDO2s. However, a lot of people have been on a rant about Walksnail and caddx so I am considering to sell both to get me some hdz2 goggles. For this I would have to sell the before mentioned goggles and a Walksnail vtx. During this time where I sell them I would not be able to fly, because no more goggles and I don’t have the money for the hdz2 at once. What do you think?

I would really appreciate more that one opinion and if you think I should make a thread that’s also good.

Tysm

carmine oak
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4 weeks of sim time

dusty echo
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What have you heard about Walksnail? Apparently I've been out of the loop lol

tepid swallow
carmine oak
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just practice in the sim for 4 weeks during down time haaa

tepid swallow
tepid swallow
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That’s a good point thecat

last glacier
tepid swallow
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So idk

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Also, im concerned that with the decrease in popularity of Walksnail, the resell price of the goggles will drop, and I don’t want to stand there with a worthless goggles in a system I don’t like and that is obsolete

last glacier
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I'm lucky in that I can try out a friend's HDZero at the beginning of next month to see if it'll work for me in the environment I fly in.

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I don't want to fuck this decision up a second time, you dig?

tepid swallow
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Yeah, true 😂😂

last glacier
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Might be worth you having a play around with "race mode" though

tepid swallow
tepid swallow
last glacier
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Drops the resolution down to 540p, but fixes the frame rate and stops it jumping as high, lowers latency a fraction too.

tepid swallow
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Sounds reasonable

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I just want to jump off the sinking ship before it’s too late yk?

last glacier
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What sort of stuff do you fly?

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And what sort of places?

tepid swallow
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Just wanted to see what ppl thought

tepid swallow
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I’ve heard from @edgy fulcrum that the analog module that is built in is comparable to the fusion so for whoops that would be more that enough

last glacier
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If you're into your whoops, HDZ would seem the sensible alternative to WS.

tepid swallow
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And I like small drones so if I expand my fleet it would be in the 85mm to 2 inch range, yeah

last glacier
tepid swallow
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Right? I was shocked to hear that next to some flying footage

last glacier
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(not diversity or fusion)

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Yeah, DJI is shit for small drones. The O4 lite is fragile AF, as well as low FOV without aftermarket lenses.

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The O4 pro weighs a lot comparatively speaking.

tepid swallow
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And dji is known to lock out old stuff (like apple) and is expensive af

last glacier
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The Goggles 3 are actually cheaper than HDZ V2.

The VTxs are cheaper for HDZ (cos you won't use the o4 lite)

tepid swallow
last glacier
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HDZero's support team are far superior to DJI.

edgy fulcrum
tepid swallow
edgy fulcrum
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more than enough

tepid swallow
edgy fulcrum
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no

tepid swallow
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Ah, ok

edgy fulcrum
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i dont plan on it

tepid swallow
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Why not?

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Like, im not saying you should, but I’m curious

edgy fulcrum
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i hate the way the ground turns into a blurry mess

tepid swallow
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In the dvr or the final footage?

edgy fulcrum
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the only thing i care about is the in goggles experience

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and it doesn't look good

tepid swallow
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I get that

edgy fulcrum
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dji does it aswell but not nearly as bad

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and well dji is dji

tepid swallow
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Yeh

last glacier
edgy fulcrum
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why i have chosen to go hdzero and analog

tepid swallow
edgy fulcrum
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i will take break up over a bunch of compression any day

edgy fulcrum
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will soon tho

tepid swallow
charred mortar
edgy fulcrum
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yeah

last glacier
tepid swallow
last glacier
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Also depends on the antennas used.

charred mortar
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batter have higher latency for a while than lost a drone because of lost of vision

last glacier
charred mortar
edgy fulcrum
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you can also punch out on analog and hdzero to get video back instantly, hdzero and dji take much longer to regain a video link

charred mortar
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I cannot say about DJI as I flew it once. But in the case of WS it regain connection very fast

last glacier
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With little rhyme or reason.

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As if there's something about the goggles that varies wildly.

charred mortar
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I only had poor penetration with Avatar VRX with stock antennas, but only this one case

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but it is not known for the best stock antenas so no surprise

last glacier
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Yet another problem.

tepid swallow
last glacier
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That's me, flying bando with the rest of the crew.

tepid swallow
last glacier
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No confidence in the link at all.

charred mortar
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I got it. But still I was much more likely to crash because of static noise that distract me in crucial point than an latency/link issiue with digital system

last glacier
tepid swallow
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Dang, I wish I knew ppl close by that flew fpv why

charred mortar
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I was fling on skyzone X if I recall correctly, so relatively good analog

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I know some people are better "resistant" to static noise, and need more to lost control. It is ok, whatever floats one's boat. I just say that in my case WS is good hybrid between analog and DJI

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it has not so great video quality as DJI, but more stable connection in my opinion, as it does not base on retransmition so hard

last glacier
charred mortar
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yep, so HDzero is your world 🙂 and it is fine

last glacier
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If the breakup messes with me, DJI O4 on G3 in race mode is the remaining option. Expensive though.

charred mortar
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WS also has race mode

last glacier
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They do, but DJI Goggles 3 does it way better. Still 1080p for a start. WS race mode is 540p.

charred mortar
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yep, but O4 is usable for race only in Pro version. Lite has 117 degrees FOV and dark sensore that gets camera noise fast with lower light

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so very expensive option

last glacier
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Also worth a mention, the goggles X are the most uncomfortable goggles I've ever had on my face.

last glacier
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So it would cost me £230 per drone for the o4, plus a spare for when I break something.

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Super Expensive.

charred mortar
last glacier
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Yeah, I can totally see the attraction. The optics of box goggles are easier on the eye.

charred mortar
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much easier in my case. On boxes I can fly my single 8:30 min lipo without break. I'm not sure If I would manage to keep so long in my friends DJI G3

last glacier
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See, I found the G3 quite comfortable. (One of the crew has G3)

carmine oak
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i love my g3

last glacier
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Haven't had em on for long, admittedly, but I could actually see everything properly, even without custom lens inserts I have for my Gx.

charred mortar
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In my case, whatever distance between lenses I set, I still feel strain. Except that it is light and comfy, but the most crucial part does not work for me well, so if I would have to go with DJI, probably N3 or smth

carmine oak
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ive obly ever used g3 as non box but the light blocking on these is incredible

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only light leakage is from the led indicators on the side of the goggle

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also passthru is really cool

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and the 3d mode

charred mortar
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I have also some around nose, so I guess it depends on face shape

tepid swallow
tepid swallow
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Ok, I’ve made up my mind. I think I’ll do the change

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What do y’all think is a good price to ask for the goggles x and hdo2?

last glacier
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Depends where you are. Goggles X are going for around £320 in the UK atm Harold

tepid swallow
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Wonderful

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Also what in the good world is this

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last glacier
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It means grey market imports into the EU are being scrutinized pretty heavily.

There's probably a bit on the checkout process for customs information. They're telling you to be honest, because if customs impound/destroy the package for fraudulent info, they won't refund you.

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(Because Russia are dodging sanctions by buying "dual use equipment" through 3rd parties in other countries, including EU members.)