#What Drone Should I Start With?

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wispy rampart
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I'm looking at the dji avata 1 because of the overall capability's it has i was wondering if i should build my own instead

summer aurora
wispy rampart
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oh

summer aurora
wispy rampart
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fpv but some good quality shots in-between

summer aurora
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Also, what is your overall budget?

wispy rampart
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i have tryp fpv

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i used my xbox controller on it

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around 900 cad for the googles and everything

summer aurora
summer aurora
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What kind of area are you hoping to fly in

wispy rampart
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park

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s

summer aurora
wispy rampart
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fairly big

summer aurora
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Ok

wispy rampart
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lots of space

summer aurora
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Well I think starting on a tinywhoop is always a good idea and is relatively inexpensive and very durable

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You can use the same controller/goggles for both

wispy rampart
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im looking for a one to build i think with a friend

summer aurora
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Ohh

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You could each build a tinywhoop in a weekend and be completely set up with that budget for 2x sets of gear I think

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If you go on the lower end of things

wispy rampart
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im looking for somthing that ill use for a long time

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not a shorter period

summer aurora
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If you want to build a bigger drone, a 3.5 inch drone is gonna be the largest that is recommended for a beginner

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And it will still be very fast if you don’t have fpv experience

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Experienced people here love their 3.5s

small arch
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I’d love my 5” if I got it working lol. But yes 3.5” are a blast

wispy rampart
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how much battery life would it have

summer aurora
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Which is the norm for fpv😅

wispy rampart
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could you get multipole batteries for it and just keep switching

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?

summer aurora
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That would be to heavy to work well unfortunately

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Also, if the weight wasn’t an issue, just using a battery 2x the size would be a more efficient way to do that

wispy rampart
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should me and my friend buy a prebuilt for now instead

summer aurora
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Did you mean multiple

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?

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In that case yes and that is what we do

wispy rampart
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mb

hidden pulsar
summer aurora
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Yes people usually have like 5-8 batteries they switch between

wispy rampart
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damn

summer aurora
wispy rampart
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ahh so should we get prebuilts?

summer aurora
wispy rampart
summer aurora
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Oh

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Hi👋

hidden pulsar
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k im chimed in

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what happens if it dies, does it just drop?

small arch
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Yes

hidden pulsar
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is it hard to build

summer aurora
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I think a crux35 hdzero and the hdzero box goggles and a radiomaster boxer would be a great thing as a beginner and would all be great gear that can be used for a long time

hidden pulsar
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bet

summer aurora
hidden pulsar
summer aurora
summer aurora
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It’s pretty linear at the end

hidden pulsar
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what should we buy from

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amazon?

summer aurora
summer aurora
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I’ll list some hang on

small arch
summer aurora
summer aurora
hazy linden
# small arch I’m talking about if your just not paying attention to voltage (sometimes it hap...

If you ignore voltage and just fly, you'll notice that throttle becomes less and less effective. Once the thrust is less than the weight of the drone, you'll just slowly descend at 100% throttle until you reach the ground. You could probably keep the props running till the voltage gets low enough to reboot the flight controller, but I'm fairly sure that would be well after the quad loses the power to stay airborne

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If you fly to the point that you can barely lift off though, you've already likely destroyed the battery. Below a certain voltage, they get so internally damaged that they can't hold much of a charge, and eventually can become a fire hazard when trying to charge them back up

summer aurora
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An experienced person is here and I gtg, have fun getting into fpvHowdy

wispy rampart
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in english pls?

hazy linden
wispy rampart
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thanks!

hazy linden
summer aurora
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Unless you think otherwise

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I’m a newbie

hazy linden
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If you're eager to get in the air IRL, I'd definitely recommend a tinywhoop or toothpick class drone

hazy linden
summer aurora
hazy linden
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I don't know anything about digital but

  • yeah the Boxer or Pocket if you're low on budget are both great, make sure to get the ELRS versions
  • a 3.5" is a fairly powerful quad. Can be dangerous in a park if you're not experienced
hidden pulsar
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whats a good tinypoop drone

hazy linden
hazy linden
hidden pulsar
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wont it be too windy to fly

wispy rampart
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tinypoop drones arnt alot of cash too

hazy linden
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yeah the wind can push it around fairly easily, but larger quads like 3.5"+ are extremely powerful. If you're not experienced, you can easily end up hitting someone at the park

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it wouldn't be like bumping into them with a paper plane. It would be more on the level of uhh

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throwing a heavy rock at them as hard as you can

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can you throw a rock at 60mph?

wispy rampart
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wb cinawhoops?

hidden pulsar
hazy linden
wispy rampart
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i got my licence the other day aswell

hazy linden
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I would never do that to strangers with any drone. not even for physical safety but out of respect for their space and privacy

hidden pulsar
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so should we start by buying a radiomaster controller

wispy rampart
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yeah 100f

hazy linden
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drones have the "spying" reputation as is

hazy linden
wispy rampart
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true lol

hazy linden
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sims are actually pretty fun imo

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what's your budget?

wispy rampart
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800

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cad

hazy linden
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800 for a single shared setup right? not like two separate transmitters or nothin

wispy rampart
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single

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1 each for 800 each

hazy linden
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👍

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I'm tempted to recommend the Boxer cause it's a real nice radio

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but

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i'm not 100% sure if that would allow for a full on digital 5" setup in the future

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but

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the radio is one of the most permanent, important pieces of equipment, so you might want to get one good one and keep it for life

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then buy a tinywhoop or toothpick and analog goggles

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then in the future save up some more for a 5" and all that when you're more advanced

hidden pulsar
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so which radio then

hazy linden
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Pocket or Boxer depending on how much you wanna save

wispy rampart
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pocket

hidden pulsar
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i cant find the pocket on amazon

hazy linden
hidden pulsar
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send me a good place to get it

hazy linden
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there are different shops depending on where you're located, and that's probably a question for #🧾shopping-advice, I'm not familiar with FPV shops that well

wispy rampart
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im very close to sn hobbies

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like walking

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distance

hazy linden
wispy rampart
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😡

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thanks

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for the advice

hazy linden
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you'll end up with some noname tinywhoop and some FrSky radio

hidden pulsar
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k we gonna get the pocket controller

hazy linden
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cool, it should last you forever (or, at least, until you want to upgrade lol)

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(hence mentioning the Boxer)

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(or uhh the GX12 thingy?)

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(you might have the budget for those)

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(up to you)

hidden pulsar
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I cant find the pocket controller anywhere

summer aurora
wispy rampart
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do you know anything about this one

hazy linden
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"so, I read from others that [...]"

summer aurora
mossy whale
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the pocket crush is a regular pocket but with pretty colors

summer aurora
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And I believe you can upgrade the gimbals on the crush

hidden pulsar
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oh i see

summer aurora
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I assume you can ship from us too right?

hidden pulsar
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its out of stock tho

summer aurora
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In which case there’s gotta be somewhere

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I’ll look

hidden pulsar
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oh theres a bunch nvm

summer aurora
hidden pulsar
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i might get the white one

summer aurora
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All are good

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Personally I got the charcoal clear one but it’s all preference

hidden pulsar
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yeah I liked that one too

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its out of stock tho 😦

wispy rampart
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were going to go instore tomorrow

summer aurora
wispy rampart
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i was thinking mint mist

summer aurora
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Good luck to ya

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Make sure to get the elrs, NOT the 4 in 1, the 4 in 1 has crappy elrs

hidden pulsar
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what does elrs mean

wispy rampart
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??

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that

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right

hazy linden
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i thought the 4in1 was non-elrs lol

summer aurora
hidden pulsar
summer aurora
hidden pulsar
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are these good

summer aurora
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Not necessary

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Oh also, just a little perk, there is a bunch of dumb little games on the rm pocket

wispy rampart
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i like it grippy bruh

hidden pulsar
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samsies

summer aurora
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It is stock

hidden pulsar
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yoo games on the controller?

mossy whale
# hidden pulsar what does elrs mean

Express Long Range System, the radio "language" we all use. It uses more modern hardware and modulation than most others, so it has low latency and/or very long range.

summer aurora
mossy whale
summer aurora
hidden pulsar
summer aurora
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One stick per person

summer aurora
hazy linden
summer aurora
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There’s even I tiny aweful fpv sim in it (DO NOT USE IT aside from for laughs)

wispy rampart
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lol

hidden pulsar
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lmao

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how does it fit on the screen

wispy rampart
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i lover tryp fpv

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love

hidden pulsar
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I wonder what else they could put on there 😏

summer aurora
hazy linden
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like the dino game type thing

summer aurora
hazy linden
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basically

summer aurora
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You just can’t yaw😂

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And it’s in angle mode

hazy linden
hazy linden
hidden pulsar
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do we need batterys

hazy linden
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altogether, unsatisfactory

mossy whale
wispy rampart
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what they do?

hidden pulsar
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wdym

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charge ti

hazy linden
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evidently

hidden pulsar
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which one

summer aurora
wispy rampart
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2 of the bottom ones?

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right

summer aurora
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I believe so

mossy whale
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both have identical stats

summer aurora
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Yep

mossy whale
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just different manufacturers, so yeah either works and one isn't in stock

hidden pulsar
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why does it say samsung

mossy whale
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because samsung makes 18650 batteries

hidden pulsar
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fair enough'

wispy rampart
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I got 140 cash

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would that be enough

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i can get 150

mossy whale
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enough for what

wispy rampart
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everything pham

mossy whale
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no

wispy rampart
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the raido poket

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ofc

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pal

mossy whale
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min about 300 USD for the cheapest decent setup

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for Pocket, good tiny whoop, cheap goggles, vifly whoopstor charger, some batteries, etc.

wispy rampart
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how do we charge these

mossy whale
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plug a usbC cable into the bottom port of the Pocket

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the top usbc port is for data transfer and for using it as a USB joystick

wispy rampart
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ok thanks

hidden pulsar
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goodnight

wispy rampart
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@summer aurora @hazy linden

summer aurora
hidden pulsar
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Got the transparent

wispy rampart
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Mint mist

summer aurora
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Have fun with it!

wispy rampart
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Yeah thanks for all the advice

summer aurora
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Btw, Bottom usbc port is for charging, top one is for a sim

wispy rampart
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Ok good to know thanks

hidden pulsar
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Drone simulator fuel

hidden pulsar
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I saw a video on YouTube about that

hazy linden
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yeah it's not a very realistic sim but it's super fun

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i mean, it does use acro mode with adjustable rates and everything, it's just that the weight of the quad feels kinda floaty or something

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Velocidrone is a great realistic simulator fyi

hidden pulsar
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I got tryp fpv

hidden pulsar
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how do i connect the controller

hazy linden
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for sims you usually plug it in via USB then on the screen of the radio, you select to use it as a joystick or input device, something along those lines

hidden pulsar
hazy linden
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inverted can mean may things tbf lol - what exact stick movement translates to what drone movement?

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right stick down should normally translate to drone pitch up

hidden pulsar
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its inverted like what im used to with the controller

hazy linden
hazy linden
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which stick are you moving?

hidden pulsar
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i used the ps5 controller on the sim

hidden pulsar
hazy linden
hidden pulsar
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and when i fly it down it goes fowards

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in a spin

hazy linden
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are you pushing the right stick upwards? and the drone's tilting downwards?

hidden pulsar
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yes

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wiat

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it spins backwards

hazy linden
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like, the view rotates upwards, right?

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you go from seeing the horizon to seeing the sky?

hidden pulsar
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it spins backwards

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ima do just change everything inverted'

hazy linden
# hidden pulsar it spins backwards

like I said, there are 3 axes of spin, and two directions of spin each, so it gets kinda confusing if you don't use exact wording 😅 but I'm pretty sure what you're describing is a "pitch up" movement

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imagine you impale the drone with a sword straight through its side, then spin it on the sword so that the front end goes upwards

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that would be pitch up lol

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that movement is normally done by pointing the right stick down. Make sure that's what is happening on your end

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this describes the controls on the transmitter side

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This image is missing throttle, which works differently on planes (as opposed to helicopters or quadcopters) - on quads, throttle will push the drone directly upwards (like towards where the blue arrow's pointing)

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oh, and make sure you're practicing in acro mode. it works very differently from angle or horizon modes, which are not generally used with fpv lol

hidden pulsar
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i inverted it and its fine no

hidden pulsar
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what should I get next now that I have the radiomaster pocket

hidden pulsar
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i alr got tryp fpc

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fpv

summer aurora
hidden pulsar
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yyyyeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssss.

hidden pulsar
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what parts should we get

summer aurora
summer aurora
hidden pulsar
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fpv

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any fpv

wispy rampart
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Whats like all the parts we need

hazy linden
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the specific parts are 100% dependent on what type of build you're making, which is dependent on what type of flying you want to do, which is dependent on the space and cost limitations you have

summer aurora
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This is the time where you get to pick what type of drone you want

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So id advise researching different types and sizes

wispy rampart
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were thinking 5 inch quadcopter fpv

summer aurora
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Alright then, that’s a very dangerous start but it’s doable, make sure you practice lots on the sim

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Your sure building is how you want to go?

hidden pulsar
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is it good?

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what do you think

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is building good

wispy rampart
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yeah we coped a soldering iorn

summer aurora
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Alright then

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Used vitroids 5 inch build website

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I forgot what’s it’s called

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Maybe someone will link it

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Boom

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Found it

hidden pulsar
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nice

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is dis a good combo

summer aurora
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I don’t have a 5 inch so I wouldn’t know, but if it’s on there it should be solid

hazy linden
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as long as everything on there is compatible

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in terms of power draws/voltages etc

hidden pulsar
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should we just buy a kit idk whats compatible and shi

wispy rampart
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like a diy one

summer aurora
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I’d say just look at the voltages and roll with the build you picked on there

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I’ve never heard of any kits that are actually worth the $

hazy linden
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it's not that difficult though

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I'd recommend the vitroidfpv site and youtube channels like joshua bardwell

summer aurora
hazy linden
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other than voltages and currents, there's also matching the lipo/gross weight to motors (voltage, kv), to props

summer aurora
hazy linden
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fair, same lol

summer aurora
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Oh wait

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I have an idea

summer aurora
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Sorry for the ping

sullen cloak
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I'd probably swap out the Sector 5, I'll need to update the list with some alternatives. In the meantime I'd probably go with the Speedybee Mario 5

summer aurora
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@wispy rampart @hidden pulsar you’re lord and savior has blessed you with advice

wispy rampart
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what about this just sector five on this too?

summer aurora
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He said not to use the sector 5

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Instead use the speedybee one or Mario 5

wispy rampart
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alr

summer aurora
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Yeah, use that in your original build instead of the sector 5 and you should be all good

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OH

hazy linden
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HO?

wispy rampart
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ok new and improved

summer aurora
wispy rampart
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ok thanks

summer aurora
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And np

summer aurora
# wispy rampart ok new and improved

I know the original list will work cause vitroid said so but any changes here besides the Mario 5 I can’t say fs, but I can guess that it would work

wispy rampart
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ok we each had our own builds

wispy rampart
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and the googles?

hidden pulsar
wispy rampart
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SpeedyBee Mario 5 DC Advanced Version

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is the one were looking at would that wirk

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work

hidden pulsar
elfin kindle
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crimson that was an impressively fast ping and delete

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but please let's not ping every single moderator out of the blue for no reason, thank you

hidden pulsar
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he he he haw

wispy rampart
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mb mb

hidden pulsar
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how did u knowe

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the logs?

elfin kindle
hidden pulsar
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balright

elfin kindle
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2 hours you had to scroll down for the record

hidden pulsar
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alright lil homie

wispy rampart
summer aurora
wispy rampart
summer aurora
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Although hdzero box goggles have analog aswell

wispy rampart
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Ah

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What's the difference between analog and digital

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@summer aurora

wispy rampart
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The caddx ratel 2 doesn't seem like it's image quality is terrible tho

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So idk what to do

gilded sluice
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Unless u get walksnail

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Which is still kinda pricey

summer aurora
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Yeah

wispy rampart
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The one deal breaker for me was the bad image quality which before resorted my to dji

gilded sluice
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While analog is essentially 0

wispy rampart
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What's a good digital video system and goggles

gilded sluice
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Maybe the Hdzero box goggles

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But I never tried them yet so idk

elfin kindle
gilded sluice
elfin kindle
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analog latency varies WILDLY

gilded sluice
wispy rampart
elfin kindle
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there are tons of cameras where you have more latency than you would with Walksnail or DJI

wispy rampart
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Like before I wanted the caddx

gilded sluice
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So it’s gonna be about 10 to 20 milliseconds latency with an air 65

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With using elrs

wispy rampart
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It's it that noticeable?

gilded sluice
gilded sluice
wispy rampart
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The 60 milliseconds

gilded sluice
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For racing yes

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Also a bit in freestyle

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But u should be good

wispy rampart
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Alr so you recomend the air 65

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And hdzero box

gilded sluice
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But air 65 is analog

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Which can work with the box goggles Hdzero

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But if your getting the Hdzero box goggles u might as well just get a Hdzero whoop

gilded sluice
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Do u know how to solder?

wispy rampart
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Shi I lokey just want a decent digital system

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I'm learning g

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How to

gilded sluice
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What do u want

elfin kindle
elfin kindle
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again, don't spread misinformation

gilded sluice
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But it varies between different equipment

gilded sluice
elfin kindle
elfin kindle
# wispy rampart And hdzero box

If you're going with HDZero goggles and don't want analog, dji or walksnail then just get the Mobula6 or Mobula7 with the AIO5 in it, which is HDZero.

wispy rampart
gilded sluice
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It’s the best one

wispy rampart
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They sell separate video systems?

gilded sluice
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If I would suggest a whoop then get the meteor 75 with the DJI 04

gilded sluice
elfin kindle
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There's not a simple best one, they all have aspects in which they shine or are better than each other

wispy rampart
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Ah

gilded sluice
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Better?

elfin kindle
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no because that doesn't actually say anything

gilded sluice
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I have them and they are great

wispy rampart
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So if I got a dji video system would I be forced to buy dji goggles or does it even work with them

gilded sluice
wispy rampart
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Ok I wanted dji goggles anyway

elfin kindle
wispy rampart
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I was planing to get dji anyway if it worked

gilded sluice
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Also

wispy rampart
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Custom

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With the video system and other parts

gilded sluice
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Are u gonna get the 04 pro?

wispy rampart
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I haven't got the chance to check the cost yet

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But probably

gilded sluice
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220$

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For pro

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And 110$ for lite

wispy rampart
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Should I need dji controller

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I alr have radio master pocket bought it recently

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Do I need

elfin kindle
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no you basically want the radiomaster/jumper/anything with expresslrs

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the dji controllers are basically junk in comparison

wispy rampart
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So would my controller works

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It's elrs

elfin kindle
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yes

gilded sluice
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Which is very easy

wispy rampart
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Whats

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Flight controller?

gilded sluice
wispy rampart
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Ah

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Ok what about the goggles

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Do I need any add ons

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Of I got the dji

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If

gilded sluice
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All u need is an 04 and the n3 goggles or goggles 3

wispy rampart
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Ok if per say I didn't want to build a whole drone could I get a pre built with the 04

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?

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@gilded sluice

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That's not a whoop

gilded sluice
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But they most likely wouldn’t be as powerful

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And most of them are cinematic drones

wispy rampart
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Ah I'll build it with a tutorial

gilded sluice
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And good ones will be from 400 to 700 bucks

gilded sluice
wispy rampart
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Damn

gilded sluice
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Sounds cool

wispy rampart
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Not sure if it's the lite one

wispy rampart
gilded sluice
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And the other one is DJI air unit 04 pro

gilded sluice
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But obviously a custom build if u do it right it’ll be allot better

elfin kindle
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if you buy all the parts on your own you are often hundreds cheaper

gilded sluice
gilded sluice
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Do u have any suggestions?

elfin kindle
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all quadcopters are built the same

gilded sluice
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But who’s gonna help him know what to get

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And also there are a lot of pre cautions that someone should know when building

wispy rampart
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I got the parts from vitroids website

gilded sluice
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Looks *

wispy rampart
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He did

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I shaped the frame for the mario 5

gilded sluice
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ah ok cool

wispy rampart
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Swapped

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156 cad

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The goggles n3 are 319 cad

wispy rampart
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Thats

gilded sluice
wispy rampart
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Great man thanks for everything

gilded sluice
gilded sluice
wispy rampart
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About what?

summer aurora
wispy rampart
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Litw

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Lite

summer aurora
gilded sluice
summer aurora
wispy rampart
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5 inch

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Il grind the simulator

gilded sluice
summer aurora
wispy rampart
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It's an expensive build but that's what you get for digital

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4k 120fps is sick

summer aurora
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Yep

hidden pulsar
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Soooo many messages

wispy rampart
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Read

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Damn goggles and video system alone are 600

wispy rampart
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Or the whole thing

summer aurora
hidden pulsar
wispy rampart
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Including the frame and everything

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Stacks

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Motors

summer aurora
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There is one battery for everything

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And it will be 6s

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Not sure what the ideal mah is but you can google that

wispy rampart
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Do you mind if you sent a link to ine

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One

summer aurora
wispy rampart
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Ok I'll find it

gilded sluice
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That’s what powers the whole drone

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If you are building a 5” then you should get a 6s battery

wispy rampart
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I saw a prebuilt 7.5 inch with the 04 I'm it alr so I might buy that

wispy rampart
gilded sluice
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You’ll just get wrong info

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Not worth it long term

wispy rampart
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Ah ok thanks

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@gilded sluice check dms

gilded sluice
summer aurora
gilded sluice
summer aurora
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Never heard drones measured like that

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Aside from tinywhoops

gilded sluice
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Idk tbh

summer aurora
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🤷‍♂️

gilded sluice
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250$

summer aurora
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Yea

solemn hill
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i guarantee its the prop

gilded sluice
solemn hill
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how do you not klnow hoarder sam

gilded sluice
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That’s 7.5”???

solemn hill
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what

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no???

gilded sluice
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Ye

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I figured

solemn hill
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the wheelbase isint even 7.5

gilded sluice
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lol

solemn hill
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why do you think thats 7.5

gilded sluice
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I don’t