Para's House. (Goodbye)

[gaunt creek]

Also that vote got buried I'm surprised so many people actually read our past messages

[solemn cairn]

5" isnt much more expensive and i feel like 3/3.5" doesn't unlock many more places that i can fly at

I like sub 100g stuff because you can fly that pretty much anywhere and then just jump straight to 5" and not bother with much in between

[gaunt creek]

Oh shoot still gotta watch your latest vod

[gaunt creek]

And I'm gonna do my first IRL rubiks cubes today

[soft pecan]

3.5" unlocks significantly more places I can fly at at a lower price while losing zero fun factor

[gaunt creek]

That's pretty convincing

[soft pecan]

and I say that as someone who has tons of spaces where they could fly a 5"

[queen monolith]

Hold on are you thinking about building another quad?

[gaunt creek]

You can't prove anything

[queen monolith]

What quads do you have right now?

[gaunt creek]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

5

[queen monolith]

Thah's just 5" and tinywhoops though, right?

No middling sizes?

[gaunt creek]

65mm analog
75mm HDzero
2.5" o4pro
5" o4pro
5" o4pro on cocaine (3D)

[queen monolith]

Oh yeah you're missing a size. I guess you've got no choice but to fill the gap

[gaunt creek]

Your right

I need a 10"

[queen monolith]

Truuue

Could start a barber shop with that

Free haircuts

[soft pecan]

You can be a great French inventor as well

[tropic wyvern]

heh i didnt know you had a 2.5'' one

[gaunt creek]

The 3.5" could be a barber shop, 10" is amputations

[tropic wyvern]

''5'' on cocaine''

[queen monolith]

Call it the quillotine

[queen monolith]

Nice and clean, no excess trauma. Easy

[gaunt creek]

My goal is to catch up to benry

It is a difficult goal 😔

[soft pecan]

para doesn't have a european frame yet

[tropic wyvern]

if i wouldnt break ever single quad i touch i would also be able to catch up

[queen monolith]

Count each broken one sa a half quad

[tropic wyvern]

2 quad thet wored

well 3 but the 2'' yeah ion talk about taht

[soft pecan]

i mean a lot of your problems would be solved if you just took the time to learn how to solder

[tropic wyvern]

i lost my last bit of tin 😭

imma buy more like tomorrow

and maybe other stuff also

[soft pecan]

no

like actually sit down

and take the time to learn how to do it properly

[tropic wyvern]

when i have tin

again

i will

[soft pecan]

no extra exposed wire, no good enough

no more ruining aio's

[tropic wyvern]

i havent ruined aios right
right
there was one i have to admit i was to lazy to wire up the whole thing different so u jsut got a new one

[tepid thicket]

Kirb

I can teach you if you want

Look I used to solder so shit you have no idea

Like seriously shit

[soft pecan]

ale was the average #diwhy⁉️ post

[tropic wyvern]

yikes

[tepid thicket]

Believe me I had the worst technique ever

I burned 2 potentiometers while soldering their ground

[soft pecan]

i am so excited to solder again because i will be able to see for the first time

[tepid thicket]

Uuh you ser better now?

[soft pecan]

no i got a microscope

my soldering evolution was just

just yolo it

then just yolo it and then inspect with phone camera

and then ipad annoyingly mounted on top and zoomed in and kind of being to see

and now microscope

[tepid thicket]

oh I hoped you fixed your eyesight :c

at least you found a solution for soldering

hope it works

[soft pecan]

it does! i got to play with it for a little bit

it's a triwhatever

trinocular

so i can also be cool and have a camera on it lol

[stark flower]

i wanna get a small soldering microscope also, hope yours is good

[soft pecan]

I didn't go for a small one and spent quite a lot of money, but it is worth it for me since it will get use probably every single day and save me minutes at a time

[tepid thicket]

nice I'm happy for you

I know I have been rude to you in the past and I'm sorry for that

[hot bear]

What are you doing that you're soldering that much

[steady willow]

Spot welders. For making/recelling Li-Ion packs. Any knowledge or advice?

[gaunt creek]

Soldering is fun now that I'm okay at it

Also look at the cost of this now 🤣

[steady willow]

What, and I can't stress this enough, the fuck?!

[gaunt creek]

Yeah @soft pecan what's the deats

[steady willow]

The eBike battery I have here is fucked, see?

The cells are knackered from being left fully charged for months, then charged again, then dumped out of the bike motor.

Of course, she waited till after I asked if it had been used to start HGVs to tell me this.

It is, in essence, just a 10s LiIon pack with a BMS strapped to it though. Shouldn't be too hard, right?

[soft pecan]

Depends on how much money you want to spend, pretty much

[steady willow]

Always the way. Is there an acceptable baseline that doesn't break the bank though? Like a Pinecil does for soldering.

[soft pecan]

I don't really know much about the cheaper options, @analog monolith might

There's the kWeld which is the more premium DIY option, there's more finished products like the glitter 801h, sequre makes stuff too

[steady willow]

It's not like I'm setting up a business making packs, just for occasional use.

[tropic wyvern]

lmfao

[gaunt creek]

All the money 🤑 forget about fluke tell me the fun route

Also why it thundering I just wanna fly 😭

[tropic wyvern]

whoops

tehy exists

charge some pakcs and have some fun!

[gaunt creek]

I can't Rubik's cube or 3d inside 😢

[tropic wyvern]

dang

i hhavent flonw a minute of sim today lmao

[soft pecan]

imo fun route is kweld

[gaunt creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1387164600729993366.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=angry_cat

[soft pecan]

this is why you have tinywhoop

[tropic wyvern]

i will do the rubix cube in the sim if i can learn it bc recording dvr is a pain for me

[gaunt creek]

I know I know 😔

[tropic wyvern]

its one of the reasons i want tinywhoop

[gaunt creek]

I already charged 10 tiny whoop packs for the occasion

[analog monolith]

I don't spot weld packs, so I'm no help

[tropic wyvern]

well go use them

[gaunt creek]

Fine but not because you told me too 😑

[tropic wyvern]

:P

[mild delta]

Can anyone join vc

@solemn cairn can u

[gaunt creek]

@soft pecan can you remind me the comand in CLI to see the rates i have?

[soft pecan]

diff

[gaunt creek]

lol thanks i did diff all for some reason

[soft pecan]

i think you can also do

dump rates

for only the rates

[brave moth]

can u stop pinging people in the middle of the night

[soft pecan]

are they supposed to keep track of the timezones

[gaunt creek]

no

[brave moth]

no but they ping benry every other night

and he keeps telling him not to ping him in the middle of the night

[gaunt creek]

i ping @solemn cairn all the time

[soft pecan]

right click ignore

[gaunt creek]

oh

[gaunt creek]

well fair enough

[brave moth]

anyways para when are you building a 2.5"

[gaunt creek]

already have one

[brave moth]

oh

when are you building an x8 5"

[gaunt creek]

3.5 3D is next

[gaunt creek]

thats after rainstorm drone, cinawhoop, long range and hexa copter lol

[stark flower]

one more 10.
6 in wizzard abomination remade frame.
fihish freinds 7in he passed building.
then another 7.

Past that my build list is :
whoop
whoop
another whoop

I think ima start having to drive a few hours to get people to fly larger rigs.
my area is pretty much dead and some of the only active people r gonna move in a few months.

So I'll be having to go outa town to have people to fly with.

[soft pecan]

@gaunt creek why are you even asking about FC's and such

aren't you getting a free 20x20 FC

[tropic wyvern]

Show

🙏

[gaunt creek]

I am am doing a second passthrough to soak up more information and know more

[tropic wyvern]

oohh that one

also KITTYYYY :3

[hot bear]

Oasisfly 25?

[gaunt creek]

Yes it's great

[gaunt creek]

.5 points for you nice

Cant wait to see what the next trick you guys pick

[tropic wyvern]

Lighting is garbage lol

[tropic wyvern]

Yayayayay :3

[hot bear]

Screen recording is a thing you know

[tropic wyvern]

yeah but my laptop so garbage i get like 5 pfs with screnn recording for some reason

[hot bear]

Bruh

Just use Xbox game bar

[tepid thicket]

dude how can you use a pc with a window behind

it would drive me crazy

[tropic wyvern]

I dont see any of that myself lol

[gaunt creek]

You have a lovely window 🪟...

[tepid thicket]

What about the reflection

[tropic wyvern]

i see a little bit of refelction but not mutch

[tropic wyvern]

lol

[tepid thicket]

oh interesting

my second screen always has some reflections on and I hate it

[tropic wyvern]

lol

i can slightly see myself

but not mutch

[tepid thicket]

I would hate it

a lot

u whoopin?

I don't understand if it's about to rain or what, forecasts say yes and I was hearing thunders but it's not raining yet

[tropic wyvern]

nah

i need to fix a moto

but i got no tin left

it just vaanished

prolyl mgonna pick up new tomorrow

[tepid thicket]

you broke a motor on the whoop or another quad?

[tropic wyvern]

whoop

all 3 motor wires came off

[tepid thicket]

ah shit

ye I almost lost video signal behind a mountain yesterday

good thing with low band the signal is strong and I can activate gps rescue

but I just punched out and regained signal

[tropic wyvern]

dang

[tropic wyvern]

[mild delta]

No one tells me anything and it was like 5pm for me ur js idk

[graceful bluff]

Ok so me how flash the vtx with this utterly weird cable thing they gave me?

@solemn cairn please would you mind :)

[queen monolith]

What vtx is it?

The user manual might say something

[solemn cairn]

With no battery plugged in plug the vtx into the goggles with that cable. Put the unlock file on the goggles sd card. Turn on the goggles and go to the fw tab. Press update vtx and select the file. Unplug the vtx from the goggles. Plug in a battery and the led next to the plug on the vtx should blink 3 times and then unplug the battery. Put the normal firmware on the sd card and flash

Vtx should work and be unlocked after that

[median fable]

Yall

We beat car talk a long time ago

😂

[hot bear]

@gaunt creek I did a few rubiks cubes after my antenna test today

Forgot to get the dvr tho

I have dvr but it's still on the goggles

[gaunt creek]

Epic!

[hot bear]

I've been doing them for a while, but only the combination 180 forward pitch, 180 yaw left, 180 roll left

[graceful bluff]

Alright, thanks a lot!

[clear jewel]

@gaunt creek I am currently 0/4 for working drones

well techinically 1 works but I took apart

2 will be fixed by the weekend other one I have to order a motor and the other one I have to wait for the 3d printing filament

[gaunt creek]

Nice

[steady willow]

Everyone is out flying today, and I'm stuck at home waiting for my antennas, still.

No tracking update for 3 days.

[tropic wyvern]

Dang

[solemn cairn]

did i get super lucky or did you get super unlucky?

[steady willow]

Not entirely sure 😐

[solemn cairn]

because i got at least 1 update every day and had it within 6 days

so going 3 days without an update is a crazy difference

[hot bear]

Which antennas did you order again?

[steady willow]

TrueRC patches and stubbies combo for the HDZ goggles.

The goggles fit in their case without having to take any antennas off with this particular setup.

[hot bear]

Yeah that's important

I think Goggle manufacturers should also offer cases with more space for bigger antennas

I hate the life cycle rating for sma

[steady willow]

I don't want to be faffing with antennas at a bando. It's not great for the connectors either, being used so often like that. They're only good for like 300 mating cycles or something daft.

[hot bear]

I think even less

Like 150

Oh wait

It's 500 according to google

[steady willow]

Still. 500 times of putting antennas on, then the connectors can start failing. Let's just put em on, and leave em there, eh?

[hot bear]

Yeah

That's why I leave my stubbies on whenever I can

[steady willow]

Got all the other antennas I have that are worth anything on eBay. Clearing out all the shit I don't need or use.

[steady willow]

And suddenly, delivered.

[solemn cairn]

lol nice

[tropic wyvern]

Lol

[hallow oriole]

Why not the x2 mkii

Whatever the bigger ones are

[tropic wyvern]

Doenst fit in the case without taking them off iirc

[hallow oriole]

I doubt it would

[tropic wyvern]

Yeah

Lets go fix some shit

[tropic wyvern]

@soft pecan how de we feel about this joint

this tbs solder is realy nice

[daring falcon]

Wait what? You went IRL to DroneShopNL?

[tropic wyvern]

maybeeeeee

[daring falcon]

Man you're just lucky

To be able to go there in person

[tropic wyvern]

lol

it was still 48mins to there and a hour back

[daring falcon]

But still

I would have to fly to go there if I would want to

[tropic wyvern]

yeah

[clear jewel]

@gaunt creek ooooooh paraaa

Guess what came

[wet fox]

ooh what?

[clear jewel]

All the kayou frames

And the parts for the kayoumini

[brave moth]

my frame also arrived :p

[graceful bluff]

Which one is this?

[graceful bluff]

Para is afraid to answer

[shadow bolt]

Wacky custom 2.5" frame

[graceful bluff]

Nice!

[clear jewel]

@gaunt creek you can’t escape me

[tropic wyvern]

@gaunt creek i did a rubix cube irl today!

[gaunt creek]

me too

[tropic wyvern]

yay

[gaunt creek]

https://youtu.be/b__qgkbSwio @hot bear @tropic wyvern @clear jewel @solemn cairn @hot bear here is my submission ready for next move what we picking? @hot bear

[hot bear]

I wanna get pinged too

I should be able to get my 3d props in a few days hopefully

[gaunt creek]

holy compression how fix lol

[sacred ember]

not use youtube

[gaunt creek]

then how share?

[gaunt creek]

also I have seen great youtube footage what they do differently?

[sacred ember]

yours doesn't look that bad

[gaunt creek]

okay ill take it

[sacred ember]

it looks worse if you're watching it on the embed rather than on youtube

[gaunt creek]

2:43 is my favorite part cuz it makes normal people uncomfortable

[sacred ember]

I used to fly 3D a lot, then I ran out of 3d props and never flew it again cause it was annoying changing my gimbals to center then switching it to not center

[hot bear]

Upload in 4k

Or something like that

[gaunt creek]

What move we doing next @tropic wyvern!?

[wispy nest]

I should make a 3d quad again

[brave moth]

custom 2.5"

[hot bear]

Yess

Make 3d fpv great again

So we finally get whoop 3d props

I might buy some 3.5" 3d props and cut them to 3" to use them on my toothpick

[soft pecan]

export at a higher bitrate and at 4k resolution

but especially export higher bitrate

and it does look horrible on my screen you might as well be flying wonksnail 2 miles away

[hallow oriole]

wonksnail

[gaunt creek]

I can do that?

[soft pecan]

i would hope so

otherwise it would be time for you to switch editing programs

[gaunt creek]

Also it's time to choose this weeks trick what would you choose?

We did Rubik's cubes now its time for something new

[soft pecan]

can you do trippy spins yet

[hallow oriole]

trippy spins and matty flips are grueling

some of the hardest tricks for me to figure out

[soft pecan]

trippy spin but 3d

[hallow oriole]

ive been flying for how long now, and ive never even tried this

[hallow oriole]

[soft pecan]

two decades

[hallow oriole]

breaking my brain

[hallow oriole]

erm

what year is it

am i that old

[soft pecan]

2035

[hallow oriole]

and im still here??

[tropic wyvern]

I forgot what its called but basically you dont a half powerloop then an inverted yaw spin to Matty flip

[hallow oriole]

i just did that in my head

it was cool asf

[tropic wyvern]

I did it today lol

[soft pecan]

what is a matty flip

[hallow oriole]

lmao

[hallow oriole]

uhhh backwards powerloop?

[soft pecan]

why did some person called matt get to claim it

[hallow oriole]

i guess he was the first

lemme find his channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twcj_8k_-vk&pp=ygUPbWF0dHlzdHVudHogZnB2

back when RR was good

[stark flower]

Matty's videos become notabley less impressive when you learn he flys at a way different tilt than his gopro/posting.
When watching his gopro he seems like a god able to hit stuff blind by pure skill.
Then if you learn his cam tilt angle and FOV, you realize none of it is blind and its notably less impressive.

There is also the opposite end of the spectrum with cricket.
He does and is arguably famous for low tilt blind backwards stuff.
Pretty impressive.
Till you fly with him and realize he just brute force's it and smashes a dozen quads to get a 5 sec clip of a reverse blind dive.
Kinda takes the magic out of it seeing behind the scenes.

https://tenor.com/view/lego-batman-no-problem-first-try-gif-12803885

[hot bear]

That's basically just an inverted orbit

[hallow oriole]

thats actually really interesting

i guess it takes the magic out of it a little, but still cool to understand how it works and know that you arent that much worse of a pilot lol

[gaunt creek]

A burani?

[tropic wyvern]

yes that i think

yes exactly

[gaunt creek]

@solemn cairn

We are learning burannis next

[tropic wyvern]

yay

[gaunt creek]

barani*

[gaunt creek]

lol 3d lets me hang there forever

@agile forum join us sim and fly!

[gaunt creek]

btw this was an accident i cant get it again 🙁

[wet fox]

cool! is it a kayoumi?

also is that a 3d printed front end?

[wet fox]

3d flying looking awesome! are u using 3d props or just all of one direction and 2 flipped?

also i wish we had some sort of pingable sim party role

all i can ping is certified yappers lol

[brave moth]

custom

[brave moth]

yes

[wet fox]

oh sick!! what'd u use for CAD?? did u do any simulation stuff? im super interested in frame design

[brave moth]

autodesk fusion

i dont really simulate stuff

i do check for frame resonance n stuff after i built the quad

[wet fox]

you could probably do some cool fea for resonance analysis

[wet fox]

fair

[brave moth]

you kinda get the hang of it after a few frames

this is my fourth carbon frame now

simplest one ofc

[hallow oriole]

I second f360. I have my whole source one model pulled into there so i can make accessories

[wet fox]

wait that's so cool

wish there were publicly available models for my frames :(

gotta get a source one or something ig

[hallow oriole]

Yeah huge benefit of the source one

@wet fox https://rotorbuilds.com/build/33837 you can see cad cutaway pics here

[wet fox]

that's super cool

are there any popular, smaller frames that are equally open source? like 2-4"?

[hallow oriole]

There are other sizes of source frames but idk if they're actually any good

https://discord.gg/7XdsCJ6C

[soft pecan]

that name makes me hurt

[hallow oriole]

Yeah me too

[wet fox]

very creative use of dashes

[wet fox]

im mostly interested in ones like the Source One where u can actually buy the frame premade through normal fpv retailers and don't have to go through something like CNC drones for made-to-order

ill take a look tho

[brave moth]

thats why i only make my own

havent bought a frame in like a year

[hallow oriole]

Yeahhh they aren't real common because the designer doesn't really make any money and then they dont get sold in bulk

[wet fox]

you cut them too?

[wet fox]

yea, i mean i assume that if you made a popular enough one you could get a store to pick it up, modify it, and start producing it

maybe keep you on board somehow like the botgrinder frames (ik that situation is different, but i mean how botgrinder is getting money off them even though ummagawd handles production, distribution, and in this case most of the design)

[hallow oriole]

Sounds like you have a new project

[brave moth]

nah i cant afford a cnc machine

[wet fox]

fair

there're some pretty cheap desktop ones that could prob do a frame if you were smart about how u designed it

but ig "cheap" doesn't mean much when it comes to CNC

[tropic wyvern]

I wish i could play uncrashed

[wet fox]

what sim do u use?

[tropic wyvern]

Velocoidrone

[tropic wyvern]

I cant talk there cus phone number but i also cant register phone number cus its in my other account i cant acces

The amount of u deleted scams is also crazy

[hallow oriole]

Yeah its a dead server

[tropic wyvern]

Lol

[hot bear]

I could do that for you

Kind of

I have Software to simulate it and I know at least 50% what I'm doing

[brave moth]

about 50% more than i know

[ruby ice]

doesnt that mean you know like 30 something percent

[brave moth]

hey, im a dumbass not a philosopher

or mathematician

idk i didnt sleep

[ruby ice]

lmao

[tropic wyvern]

lmao

crazy

[ruby ice]

cant sleep, got quads to build

[tropic wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/live/23EJeQhSdu8

so like

dafuq lol]

fuck in 14 hours

[brave moth]

got dexter to watch

can someone tell me a number between 0 and 5

[tropic wyvern]

3

[brave moth]

3 mugs of coffee it is

[tropic wyvern]

lmfao

[clear jewel]

@gaunt creek

[gaunt creek]

Omg its so cute

[clear jewel]

My first build ever

It flies like a rocket

Faster than my 3.5 inch

[shadow bolt]

Why are you abusing your motors ?

[clear jewel]

How am I abusing them

[shadow bolt]

2540 props on 1202.5 11500kv motors

[clear jewel]

Is that bad

[shadow bolt]

It's a lot

It's super high pitched for those motors

Some GF 2512 or GF 2520 would be much better suited

[brave moth]

yeah 2540 is diabolical

[clear jewel]

So is it bad

[gaunt creek]

No

[clear jewel]

Yes it is

[gaunt creek]

It flys like a rocket

[gaunt creek]

Also just swapping props ain't much of an issue

[clear jewel]

But slow foods said motors sad

@brave moth

[brave moth]

yeah

high kv AND high pitch will overload them

[clear jewel]

If I fly that way for just today is that fine

[clear jewel]

@brave moth

[brave moth]

yeah

just dont full throttle for too long

check if your motors are warm after flights

[steady willow]

lol

lmao, even.

My motors are always at least warm when I land.

[soft pecan]

hot is a problem

warm is not

[steady willow]

Exactly so.

[tropic wyvern]

my lipos are nice little hand warmers after flights

[steady willow]

Mine only get hot when I fly with props I know I should at least land and bend back into shape a bit first.

[steady willow]

Always. 55° cam angle will get that, when you're hauling a 750g quad around a warehouse at Mach Jesus.

[tropic wyvern]

lmfao

[steady willow]

Was doing trippy spins yesterday in a bando in Matlock. Getting my confidence up so quickly with this HDZ gear.

[tropic wyvern]

nice

[steady willow]

The quad is so much lighter in reality than what I've been using in the sim.

Keep punching way too much throttle.

I set it so high because it felt so heavy with Walksnail video.

I'm still shocked that the latency was so bad I thought it was momentum.

[tropic wyvern]

lol

[steady willow]

Also, UCells can suck my chuddies.

[tropic wyvern]

thats what im using lmfao

[steady willow]

They've got fucking nothing on Onbo "200C" LiPos.

I have some ucell. Got some of these onbos a few weeks ago.

Just wow.

[tropic wyvern]

ive actually got 2 in a lipo bag in a barbecue rn cus they smell kinda sus and i dont trust them

[steady willow]

Not even in the same ballpark performance wise.

[soft pecan]

ucells are dogcoms budget series

they are not meant to be high performance

[steady willow]

I know, but I didn't expect the difference to be that wide a gulf.

[gaunt creek]

Doing the burani with the 3D 5" has been a struggle for me

[hot bear]

Barani!

[gaunt creek]

See I can't even write it how am I gonna fly it?! 😕

In sim it's pretty easy but IRL 3D drone yaw spins is unbelievably sketch

[soft pecan]

ba

[gaunt creek]

You do a barani 😭

[soft pecan]

no

[gaunt creek]

[soft pecan]

👉

[tropic wyvern]

yeahh

dang

[gaunt creek]

I'm gonna get it no matter what

@solemn cairn you are a part of this challenge

I already broke a drone during the matte part

[hot bear]

Yes

[soft pecan]

no

i don't know what that is and i don't want to know

[gaunt creek]

Half power loop half then inverted yawspin then second half of a matte

[gaunt creek]

I got it once here and then never again

[gaunt creek]

On an unrelated note I need a new erls receiver

[gaunt creek]

I was thinking sequire maybe, any opinions for 2.4 GHz? @soft pecan

[soft pecan]

what happened

[soft pecan]

anything with an official target

sequre is fine, bit on the bigger side

[gaunt creek]

I did a half powerloop, half inverted yaw spin, and then mattied straight into the ground destroying my receiver

Flying backwards is expensive

[gaunt creek]

Should I just get the same betafpv nano?

[soft pecan]

you just get what is available at the store you're already ordering at

that has an official target

[gaunt creek]

Official target?

[gaunt creek]

Also I'm not shopping at any specific spot also just realized it's just the antenna for the receiver I broke

[tropic wyvern]

happymodel ep1 is nice

[soft pecan]

i wouldn't call it nice

[soft pecan]

like an actual target with the same name that you can pick in the elrs configurator

[gaunt creek]

For five inch 2.4 GHz Connecting to a nano what antenna do I get?

[soft pecan]

so no jhemcu or matek receiver or anything like that

[gaunt creek]

I'm an idiot my receiver is not broken. Just the antenna that you just clip on

[soft pecan]

any 2.4GHz antenna with the right connector

[gaunt creek]

In the past you told me my reciever is small, did you mean my antenna for it or straight up the receiver?

[soft pecan]

presumably in relation to where the antenna would end up

[gaunt creek]

In the back of 5 inch

[gaunt creek]

I can't find just a recever antenna 👉👈

[soft pecan]

i can

[tepid thicket]

Emilia that guy shitting on ELRS has now engaged on another dude in that chat

[soft pecan]

yes they are a deeply unserious person from what I have heard so far lol

[tepid thicket]

We know him for that

He’s pretty annoying sometimes

The day I lost my drone he was blaming me because I didn’t keep searching under 40 degrees, with long pants and nothing to drink

I told him I kept searching until I saw a black spot in my vision and he said “that’s nothing, I do that every day”

[soft pecan]

i would not want to be around this person

[tepid thicket]

Me neither

I hate anyone who comes out with such takes

Pretty sure I either got low blood pressure or iron, I rlly suffer in the heat so I’m not like him who works under the sun all day

[soft pecan]

they aren't "takes"

there is no substance or actual backing to what they are saying

and try taking vitamins or whatever

[tepid thicket]

Things said out of boredom literally

Add no purpose to the conversation, if not make the person feel worse

[steady willow]

Isn't that a curry?

(Biriyani)

[brave moth]

i do that all the time i never knew it had a name lmao

[gaunt creek]

Not my friend right?

[soft pecan]

no

but your friend is good at trolling

[gaunt creek]

Thank god

[gaunt creek]

Lemme know if you ever want me to cause him physical harm IRL

[brave moth]

want me to do one tomorrow?

need a reason to take the x8 to a bando lol

[gaunt creek]

Please submit here

[brave moth]

half powerloop, half inverted yawspin, matty out right

[gaunt creek]

Yup

All through a horizontal obstacle

[brave moth]

yup

like a regular powerloop style object

[gaunt creek]

Here is me doing it in sim

[brave moth]

yeah

i usually do them alot faster but we shall see

[gaunt creek]

Now do it better

[brave moth]

oo i can also trippy it there

[ruby ice]

bloody finally. only took 11 days to ship across the country, when i can get stuff from new zealand in 4 days

[gaunt creek]

Can't wait for your footage

[steady willow]

Oh, that's a thing? I started doing that the other day after doing it by accident once.

[tropic wyvern]

lol

yeah its called a barani

[steady willow]

Huh, TIL.

Might boot the sim up later on. Got cumberland sausage rolls to make first 😁

[brave moth]

my bikes at work and i have no way to get there so itll have to wait until tomorrow

[gaunt creek]

😑 I expect great things. Don't disappoint

[steady willow]

Awwww yis

Right, sim time 😄

[gaunt creek]

Those look amazing

[graceful bluff]

Does the update file and the unlock file for updating the vtx need to be placed in the root directory of the goggle SD card or somwhere else, and is it bad to rename it. Because I did both and it doesnt show up in the file selection menu of the update vtx window. :( @solemn cairn pwease

[solemn cairn]

dont rename it and leave it in the root

[steady willow]

So, now I have all my antennas and stuff, I got to flying.

I get way better signal with the VTx at 500 rather than max. Wth?

[solemn cairn]

you fly in bandos right? at max power you will get more multipathing so it might be hurting instead of helping

it will also overheat and throttle the output power

[steady willow]

It warns you of the temp long before that though.

[gaunt creek]

Para's House.

[steady willow]

Mostly, but not always.

Gonna have to do more testing. Try the other VTx see if they perform the same. Have Paul record my flight on his goggles at the same time, so I can compare the goggle end of things.

[clear jewel]

Why is it just Para’s house

[delicate wraith]

He has ascended

[hallow oriole]

it has become a home

vampires must now be invited in

[shadow bolt]

Such a sad renaming

No more cookies, no more happiness

[sacred ember]

So I can stop by for cookies now?

[shadow bolt]

Unfortunately seems like they ran out of cookies

I see no reason to stop by anymore

[split lichen]

Para

I know it’s been a second

71 reactions

How

[static carbon]

cookies?

[tropic wyvern]

where bookies :(

i hungy

[gaunt creek]

We cause pain 👍

[hallow oriole]

PAIN

[tropic wyvern]

where my food >:(

i hungy

yays

[gaunt creek]

How you doing friend?

[sacred ember]

liar

[tropic wyvern]

nuh uh

[split lichen]

good

playing peak

[split lichen]

btw whyd you join then leave vc

[gaunt creek]

Epic

[gaunt creek]

We have 71 pain

[sacred ember]

no

[gaunt creek]

You Monster

[sacred ember]

:3

[gaunt creek]

Give it back!

[sacred ember]

hmph

[wet fox]

because it would be awesome!! put it in 3d mode and run it on a fw that's cool enough to allow motor redundancy for bonus points lol

[ruby ice]

dry fit went well guys

ignore the lack of capacitor, it fits behind the camera

man im gonna need to do some practice for soldering that reciever

[clear jewel]

what batteries would it use

[ruby ice]

probably some 650-850 4s packs

its a 3" so

[tropic wyvern]

I was just curious and i could not really join vc

[agile forum]

I use nix btw :3

[grave cloud]

i have ptsd from nix

i have to use it for work lmao

[sacred ember]

I use arch btw

[queen monolith]

Nix is cool but it's also kind of a pain 😅

[steady willow]

Very.

[gaunt creek]

Nice pfp

[agile forum]

Yes

[stark flower]

"Just dig me a quickie 160foot long trench, there should be no lines to worry about hitting."
-my neighbor.

This is the third line I've hit already.
😑

[clear jewel]

anybody know what the imu error is for o4 lite

[stark flower]

Granted fixing the broken lines is their problem not mine.
But it's good I've only hit water or dry lines lol.

Not electric or gas.

[hot bear]

Huh why did I unfollow this thread

[solemn cairn]

its only a small inactive thread. its not worth following

[queen monolith]

Yeah not much goes on here

[hallow oriole]

not many messages either

just lots of pain

[gaunt creek]

You don't like us anymore? 🥹

[hot bear]

well now I'm a follower again

also, I get my 3d props tomorrow

any settings I should adjust before flying 3d?

[gaunt creek]

I see what all of you are saying I'll close the thread this weekend @hallow oriole @queen monolith @solemn cairn @hot bear

[hot bear]

thats not allowed unfortunately

[hallow oriole]

[shadow bolt]

If you remove my 30min of evening reading I will come to your house and kick you

With love :3

[hot bear]

ah shit wrong chat

[queen monolith]

Sounds good, much appreciated

[tropic wyvern]

[sacred ember]

what a nice channel I sure hope nothing happens to it

[split lichen]

how long is appling a pid preset supposed to take

where are the para thread no lifes when i need them

[soft pecan]

a few seconds

[split lichen]

so ten minutes isint normal

any reason why its not working?

[soft pecan]

how are you connected

[split lichen]

usb

[soft pecan]

what configurator

what betaflight version

what are you trying to paste in

[split lichen]

the uav tech micro preset

[split lichen]

4.5

do i need a lipo plugged in

[soft pecan]

no

what version of the configurator

and the minor version also matters

[split lichen]

10.10.0?

[soft pecan]

what happens if you paste it into the cli manually

and then type save

[split lichen]

nothing showed

[soft pecan]

at what point

[split lichen]

after pressing enter

[soft pecan]

what do you mean

where shout

[split lichen]

i paste it into the cli

i press enter

i type save

i press enter

and nothing shows up

[soft pecan]

well then

is it applied?

[split lichen]

how do i check

nothing changed in the pid tab

-# ive quite literally never touched the cli or pid tab before this

[soft pecan]

save```

so when you do that it doesn't change to 80

[split lichen]

wait

should i have save in the same command or as a seperate one

[wispy nest]

get a screenshot of the whole window rq

[soft pecan]

having a stroke

[split lichen]

shut

[wispy nest]

Virtual Mode

[split lichen]

are you kidding me

[wispy nest]

no

[split lichen]

oh my god

[soft pecan]

bruh shout

[split lichen]

IVE NEVER TOUCHED VIRTUAL MODE BEFORE??

[wispy nest]

you have been sat for 10 minutes trying to apply a preset to a nonexistant FC

[soft pecan]

i even asked

[split lichen]

oh hush

thank you for putting up with me

what if it still doesnt apply

vitroid

my betaflight opens into virtual mode

why

IT WORKED YIPPIE

[agile forum]

I'll help

[graceful bluff]

Soo, if I managed to unlock and update the hdz vtx, where from the goggle can I change the video settings (540p 90, 1080p 60 etc) ?

[solemn cairn]

if you put both sticks down and to the centre it goes into the vtx menu

with the nano 90 you only get 540p 60, 540p 90 and 720p 60

you need the micro v3 for the 1080p 30 mode

and hdzero cant do 1080p 60

[graceful bluff]

Thanks!

[graceful bluff]

Oh, ok

[shadow bolt]

*or nano v3

[shadow bolt]

It's kinda unflyable for anything fast tho

[graceful bluff]

mm, ok

[solemn cairn]

the nano v3 only says 720 60

[shadow bolt]

I'm pretty sure I've tried 1080p30 on the nano v3

[solemn cairn]

idk

for the micro v3 it is specified

[shadow bolt]

Well idk

[hot bear]

@gaunt creek

[gaunt creek]

Epic

[graceful bluff]

Can you also set the output power from there?

[solemn cairn]

i set it though betaflight but i think so

[hot bear]

@gaunt creek you can finally prove yourself as helper, is that all I need to do in order to fly 3d?

zoe's setup video is like 8 years old so idk how relevant it is

[graceful bluff]

Yep, you can :)

[hot bear]

I'm so scared of 3d

I'll kill my build I swear

esc will go poof and motors will burn

[solemn cairn]

also need to change esc settings

[hot bear]

which?

[solemn cairn]

are you running bluejay?

[hot bear]

(I'm on bl32)

[solemn cairn]

no clue then

[hot bear]

nice

what would I have needed to do on bj?

[solemn cairn]

in the fw/reverse option there are 2 more for 3d fw and 3d reverse

[hot bear]

I think I got it @soft pecan

fuck this blhelisuite configurator

[hot bear]

ah yeah the same applies to bl32

anything else?

[gaunt creek]

I'll help ya

Go to presets

[hot bear]

i am

[gaunt creek]

Look up zoe

Do the 3d Zoe preset

And then do motor derection check for all detections

[hot bear]

aight

I'm scared of killing it

but I'll do it

[gaunt creek]

No props on

[hot bear]

sure

btw do you know if there's any benefit of using dshot600 over 300?

[shadow bolt]

Placebo

[hot bear]

btw did you alsu use the presets for tuning?

ah shit its getting dark outside

[gaunt creek]

It will be tuned good enough to fly with zoe preset

What matters most is testing motor derection for positive and negative for all motors. If wrong you will need to use ESC configurater

[hot bear]

hellll yeahhhh

motor directions work

both directions

so I am good to test it out now?

[gaunt creek]

Yes if air mode enabled and motor right derections

And props in right order

[split lichen]

crasher

i beat peak

today

[gaunt creek]

If swapping to 3d mid air make sure to have altitude for your first time

[hot bear]

yeah I'll definitely do taht

[hot bear]

damn

[split lichen]

under an hour aswell

[hot bear]

I could hop on in 30-60 minutes

[split lichen]

the caldera is super easy

[split lichen]

lunch

[hot bear]

uhh @gaunt creek is it normal for the props to make a terrible noise?

[gaunt creek]

Yes

[hot bear]

I just armed and theyre quite lout, I raised the throttle slightly and they sounded even worse

[gaunt creek]

3d is horrible

[hot bear]

okay then I'll raise the throttle even more

[tropic wyvern]

lol

[gaunt creek]

But if no lift then maybe on wrong

[hot bear]

its just armed at 0 throttle and sounds like fucking 50% throttle

[hot bear]

well I barely raised it because I was scared

@gaunt creek rate my first ever 3d flight

[tropic wyvern]

lmao

[solemn cairn]

desync when you tried to change direction?

[hot bear]

I dont even know what I did but I think I have a log to check that

[hot bear]

yeah looks like it

what I dont understand tho, when I arm its super loud but when I raise the throttle its a lot more quiet and slowly gets louder as I raise the throttle further

but according to the log, it seems like motors should spin slow when arming and then spin faster when it gets more quiet

[shadow bolt]

Why are you flying your quad, with new settings, at night

[brave moth]

why arent you

[shadow bolt]

I was and that's how I lost my first 5"

Went to the clouds in fpv heaven

[brave moth]

never too late for a second

[shadow bolt]

Or through someone's ceiling and luckily I never heard about it

[shadow bolt]

My wallet thinks otherwise

[hot bear]

Disarming is a thjng

[hot bear]

The question is why is it not going upside down

[tropic wyvern]

i can hear it screaming in pain when it heard the woerd ''new qua/new build''

[shadow bolt]

My fc didn't think so

[hot bear]

L fc

[soft pecan]

imagine how high up it flew

[shadow bolt]

It flew damn high

[soft pecan]

until battery wouldn't do it no more

[shadow bolt]

I was shitting myself for the whole flight trying to get it not to do whatever it is it was doing before it crashed somewhere

Spent days looking for it afterwards

It's probably still rotting in a forest in the middle of Dordogne

[brave moth]

try again

[hot bear]

Hell no

[brave moth]

do it pussy

[hot bear]

"insanity is when you try the same thing again and expect the same result" or whatever Einstein yapped

[brave moth]

whats the worst that can happen

[hot bear]

Drone in my pool filled with algae

[brave moth]

allgay

[hot bear]

Yougay

[brave moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/839757143477321738/1303452076059136042/Y1IUYXle.gif

[hot bear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/537528803946135553/1394237747723636757/attachment.gif

[tropic wyvern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291780437563412513/1353829266038591541/Untitled_-_Copy.gif

[hot bear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/912451867039117324/1053764519056392273/pullotus.gif

[brave moth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1076745221368455188/1302352003493658755/togif.gif?=&width=437&height=435

[tropic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-kisser-boykisser-boy-kisser-type-type-typing-gif-4348094406361571449

[hot bear]

https://tenor.com/view/smadging-speech-bubble-speech-bubble-smadging-gif-26061412

[tropic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-cat-talking-reply-gif-24471552

[hot bear]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-speech-bubble-gif-25564771

[tropic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-sonic-adventure-2-gif-11239298518648507792

[hot bear]

https://tenor.com/view/bubble-text-owl-text-bubble-bubble-text-owl-bubble-text-speech-bubble-owl-gif-25466686

[tropic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/this-discord-server-is-powered-by-this-generator-cat-pillow-cat-spinning-gif-929083260791804922

[hallow oriole]

Hows 720 60?

[tropic wyvern]

lol

[shadow bolt]

It's great

[hallow oriole]

Epic

[shadow bolt]

I still don't get all the people who hate on hdz's image quality, it's genuinely quite nice

[hallow oriole]

Might be getting rid of gx today

[shadow bolt]

Well, specifically the "it looks like analog" people

[hallow oriole]

It is pretty nice. It's not an ENORMOUS jump in clarity from analog but the appearance is a lot better

The colors

[shadow bolt]

Yes the eco sucks image wise, but ffs stop acting like it's the only camera they have

[shadow bolt]

it is a huge jump from analog

[tropic wyvern]

[hallow oriole]

I wonder what the pixel percentage increase would be

Since analog isnt really pixels

I just know that I was watching some comparisons and the actual clarity between objects in the distance didn't seem that different

But the colors were so much better

[shadow bolt]

That's not exactly the best way of thinking about sharpness increase

[hallow oriole]

True but i don't have a better metric

[shadow bolt]

Idk what comparisons you've watched but usually YouTube absolutely butchers the quality, especially of HDZ since it's "less smooth" than DJI/WS, it looks a lot better than on YouTube

[tropic wyvern]

3.5'' racing with 1207 500kv ProfHeadsS2

[shadow bolt]

Dat

Not a lotta kv

[tropic wyvern]

6000 then

how bout that

[hallow oriole]

Ahhh now THAT i believe

Do any hdz vtxs take more than one antenna

And are they all ufl?

Out of curiosity

[shadow bolt]

Idk how you can look at that and say it's not miles beyond analog, even despite the horrible butchering of the image quality because I'm too lazy to export in 4k
https://youtu.be/755i37tzrrE?si=86aMZ231JJsKWfll

[shadow bolt]

All ufl and all single antenna

Because one antenna is the right number of antennas

[hallow oriole]

Damn maybe the whoop cams are just a lot worse

Yeah lol i agree

[tropic wyvern]

in al seriousness, i would really like to try it out
but my wallet says otherwise

[hot bear]

Fun fact, I will try out the hdz goggles 2 on Sunday but not hdz

Because Ritter lean has no hdz rx yet

[solemn cairn]

the hdz whoop cams are still analog lol

the single wire ones

[shadow bolt]

Besides how they are litteraly hd analog cams, yes the lux and eco are a lot worse looking than the v3s

[solemn cairn]

the mipi cameras look much better

[shadow bolt]

(They do have 4 wires)

[shadow bolt]

How sad

[solemn cairn]

power gnd video and camera control

[shadow bolt]

Ye

Tho no one knows which wire is camera control and which one is video, this is forbidden knowledge

[solemn cairn]

the lux is still way better than any traditional analog whoop cam

the eco isnt that great

[solemn cairn]

lookes different from any desync i have seen before

[tropic wyvern]

what is that shit all of a sudden

[solemn cairn]

this is some freaky behaviour

[tropic wyvern]

[hot bear]

indeed

[tropic wyvern]

i did use hdzero goggles v1

but not with hdzero

[hot bear]

maybe its because I was rolling to the left and also trying to reverse motors?

[hallow oriole]

HUH

[solemn cairn]

motor 3 isnt even being told to spin up

[hallow oriole]

is the transmission digital then?

just the cam being analog?

i didnt know that

[tropic wyvern]

WHAT

[solemn cairn]

not the same analog i dont think

better analog

[tropic wyvern]

oh :(

[hallow oriole]

that makes sense

interesting

[hot bear]

uhh so why

[hallow oriole]

but the transmission has the digital breakup right?

[solemn cairn]

yeah

[hallow oriole]

very cool

[shadow bolt]

The eco is just a tad better than the best of analog

[hallow oriole]

speaking of best of analog

[shadow bolt]

Yes

[solemn cairn]

its better analog sent over hdzero

[shadow bolt]

*hd analog, not just better

[hallow oriole]

lets say you want the the best analog setup for penetration on 5.8ghz

[solemn cairn]

hd is better

[hallow oriole]

its a 7" so idc about size

[solemn cairn]

better analog

[hallow oriole]

what would you get

im thinking foxeer 10w vtx and t rex camera

[hot bear]

50 turn helical antenna

[shadow bolt]

Chuck a 10w or whatever the highest wattage foxeer vtx is inside

[hallow oriole]

10w it is then

[hallow oriole]

[hot bear]

foxeer 10w and ratel 2

[hallow oriole]

ratel 2 not the t rex?

[shadow bolt]

Imo the T-Rex is overrated, the best camera I've used was the predator v5 with nicely dialed in settings

[hot bear]

idk about the rex but ratel 2 on top

[solemn cairn]

tell me if you can feel heat coming off of the antenna if you get one

[hallow oriole]

interesting

[hot bear]

ratel 2 for everything

[hallow oriole]

ill let you know lol, i think ill need to be careful with my antenna setup

[shadow bolt]

If you put a directional you could warm ye hand

A bf dev said with 30dbi and 1w he could warm his hands

*elrs not bf

[hallow oriole]

how are the lenses on the ratel vs pred5 vs trex? i usually like real wide angles

[solemn cairn]

holding the antenna on my boxer to test dynamic power i think i could feel a warmth after a bit at 1w. not sure if i was imagining it

[hallow oriole]

is that heat being transferred by radiation?

like from the antenna to the hand

[solemn cairn]

yeah

[hallow oriole]

damn

[solemn cairn]

basically just microwaving yourself

[hot bear]

perhaps because your hand gets warm when you close it

[solemn cairn]

the same thing

[shadow bolt]

Iirc the fov should be about the same, and the lens quality is going to be far better than you could appreciate through analog anyway

[hallow oriole]

yeah fov was my worry

hm ok

[shadow bolt]

Well that's a quick search away

And I believe in your capacity to do so :)

[solemn cairn]

maybe but it felt different than that

[hallow oriole]

fovs have a tendency to be really annoying to compare for whatever reason

and then some wide lenses have a fisheye worse than expected

like trying to get a sim to match your cam fov is such a pain

[shadow bolt]

The ratel and predator don't have much of a fisheye

If any at all that's meaningful

[hallow oriole]

do the 3 predator sizes actually have any different specs?

i dont see anything obvious

[shadow bolt]

The size

Sensor and lens should be identical

[hallow oriole]

aight

i dont think the 10w is sold by anyone other than foxeer

rekon its ok to import with the tariffs from foxeer?

[hot bear]

just move out

I think thats in general a good idea

[hallow oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1283899794825412649.webp?size=240&animated=true

[tepid thicket]

I had a massive desync on a cliff with strong wind

The drone went up like 400 meters and I was 99% sure I was about to lose it again

[hot bear]

I just armed it and tried to throttle in both directions for a few times (not enough to lift up, I just tried to see if there would be any desyncs when changing directions)

And I had no problems

BUT

When I'm at idle, the motors spin in reverse

[hot bear]

@gaunt creek I fucking did it

as you can see I was shaking quite a bit, but it worked

Idle throttle still behaves weird tho, would you mind typing get 3d_ in the cli and make a screenshot when you have time?

[tropic wyvern]

must have felt so weird

[hot bear]

well it feels very similar to in the sim

[tropic wyvern]

damm

[hot bear]

nevermind throttle expo caused the problem

[shadow bolt]

Throttle expo
I thought you were better than that

[hot bear]

I completely forgot that I set it up once

On my other quads I don't use it

Well

I lied

On my 3" I just enabled it because it's so hard to control it at low throttle

[graceful bluff]

Man in the comments thought it was o4 lmao

[hot bear]

Ffs I still face desyncs in 3d mode all the time

[soft pecan]

is this o4

[hot bear]

@solemn cairn the desync issues always happens with the same motor, it's also slower at changing direction than the others... Could this be that the motor is just slightly fucked?

[hot bear]

hell no

thats an o3

[soft pecan]

looks better than o4

must be gopro

[hot bear]

the triple compression makes it look so nice

also why did no one tell me that 3d mode isnt like in the sim

in the sim, I fly upside down when I try to fly upside down

[shadow bolt]

It's the o5, crasher got his hands on it early

[hot bear]

irl, I make death spins when I try to fly upside down

I might just change that one motor, I still have a spare

[soft pecan]

can you show your esc settings

[hot bear]

one sec

[soft pecan]

oh right it's fucking blheli32

[hot bear]

I already reduced rampup power a lot, it was at like 40% when I didnt fly 3d

[hot bear]

so what do I do now

Should I just solder on a new motor

I will just try the new motor

[gaunt creek]

I broke both my tiny whoops

[tropic wyvern]

dang

they made me add bbq sauce for minumum delivery costs angry_cat

[gaunt creek]

Bow and arrows, fencing swords, and tortillas broke my drones

[tropic wyvern]

lmfao

[gaunt creek]

I allowed my drones to be target practice 😅

[tropic wyvern]

how could you

angry_cat

[gaunt creek]

Survived 9 batteries

3 arrows, 2 tortillias, 2 sword hits, and god knows how many slaps out of the sky. But the 4th arrow was finally able to break the air 65 lol. I wanna know what @soft pecan thinks

Them my mob7 broke before I could even take off for no apparent reason

[tropic wyvern]

DUDE

angry_cat

[gaunt creek]

Don't know what you said so I'm going to assume that you are saying that you approve

[tropic wyvern]

they dont deliver to me

[gaunt creek]

Skill issue gtg byeeeee