Fly sky i6X with speede be v4

[alpine coral]

you're not going to have a great time with that flysky, the protocol is short range with little penetration, the gimbals are very bleh, the receiver is huge, and most of the tools are built around you having an edgetx transmitter with ELRS or Crossfire

[wispy wigeon]

if* you can get it to work

[granite bay]

oh i mean i dont have much mony to use ither brands and this is all i have i just want to get into fpv with baby steps 😦

[alpine coral]

I guess the radiomaster pocket is a fair bit more expensive in comparison

[granite bay]

yeah i have seen videos of it working but they don't explain

[alpine coral]

connecting it to the sbus pin and setting the protocol to sbus in betaflight doesn't work?

[granite bay]

um like i said i dont under stand but i will take a pic for you to see give me a min

[granite bay]

This is what I have

[alpine coral]

because sbus is an inverted protocol, you need to connect it to the sbus pad so it goes through an inverter, as opposed to directly to the R2 pad

[granite bay]

oh so do i need to get a inverter or is it programing on the remote

[granite bay]

a cording to that in eed to conet it to this?

[alpine coral]

yes

there is a wiring diagram for a reason

[granite bay]

i mean i am new to all this and i did do it the last time according to the image i sent you but it still didn't work but i will try again

[alpine coral]

I guess yeah there is solder there

[granite bay]

yeah

[wispy wigeon]

oh my

😟

[granite bay]

give me a min i am trying to soder

ok i got the white wire connected to the pad what is the next step

[granite bay]

sorry i am new to all this

[alpine coral]

show your ports tab in betaflight

[granite bay]

here you go

[alpine coral]

enable serial rx on uart 2

[granite bay]

is it telemetry i buss on urt 2

[alpine coral]

no

you may also want to switch it to sbus

make the receiver output sbus and change the receiver provider to sbus

[granite bay]

can you elaborate if you dont mind

[granite bay]

oh

I also saved and reboot

[granite bay]

ok i shall so that on my remote

[granite bay]

I also did it on my controller

I still can't figure this out lol I even Hit saving reboot and nothing

[last river]

thats either ibus or ppm right? meaning the sbus pad wont work because its inverted? @alpine coral

i had one of those recievers but it was running full pwm one wire per channel

i tried wiring up another flysky rx once and it wouldnt work on sbus

[alpine coral]

the output port can output sbus

or at least should

[last river]

it can? just wanted to make sure

[alpine coral]

I've seen it done

[last river]

ah ok

[granite bay]

Wait then what should I wier or program it as

@last river how did you get it working

[last river]

i had this receiver in an rtf and it was set up really poorly because it was like 10 years old

thats how ancient this is

i had a different type of reciever wired to a normal rx pad and using ibus though

[granite bay]

Oh well still got to figure out how to use my receiver

Sorry for @ you @quiet brook but I saw in a other page you were able to help someone with a sky fly i6 I am wondering if you can help with mine since is little more up to date

[quiet brook]

We ended up switching to a Radiomaster Pocket ELRS, but if you want to attempt to get it working, send a photo of your wiring, the Ports tab and Receiver tab in Betaflight

[granite bay]

there's the wiring

[granite bay]

Sorry I was Eating breakfast but here you go

[quiet brook]

Can you please use desktop Betaflight if possible? Speedybee app is quite out of date and might cause issues on new versions of Betaflight

[granite bay]

I mean I haven't downloaded yet But I will try.Should I get it off of get hub

Git hub If that's what it's called. I know it's a website The cat logo

[quiet brook]

Yes, but you can also use it in Chrome by going to https://app.betaflight.com

[granite bay]

Okay give me a minute I have to wait for it to download

O k now I have to find a cable that transfers information

[granite bay]

for some od erazon the online websight is working better then tha app

here you go

[quiet brook]

It doesn't work because your firmware isn't built with iBus support.

@granite bay You will have to reflash the firmware of the flight controller, but with iBus selected as the protocol in the firmware flasher.

This will erase all of the settings of your FC make a backup before doing so from the presets tab

[quiet brook]

I would still highly suggest you invest in an ELRS setup. It's not that expensive to get a Radiomaster Pocket ELRS and an ELRS receiver. Will save you so much trouble in configuring it... Not many people here have dealt with FlySky in combination with Betaflight.

[granite bay]

ok i made a back up but how do i flash the firmware

@quiet brook also i would like to use a gimble and a extra srvo what should i get

i am going to buy it forcfull ly because i am realy low on funds

Or a future d I y project But I want it all in one controller

is this a good one

[alpine coral]

no

because for that you could get a Boxer

https://newbeedrone.com/collections/all/products/radiomaster-boxer-radio-controller-expresslrselrs

[granite bay]

ok but what resever should i use

[quiet brook]

Radiomaster RP1 is a good choice imo

[granite bay]

are you chore thats compadible?

um also where can i conet the survos

and the gimble

[quiet brook]

Which gimbal do you have?

And which flight controller firmware are you using? Because there isn't much point in a camera gimbal for an FPV drone

[granite bay]

speede bee v4

I would like to use one extra servervo

It's just for photography

[quiet brook]

An FPV drone for photography?

[granite bay]

yaaaaa

Here is my entire drone @quiet brook

[quiet brook]

Big boi

10 inch?

[last river]

ok hold on

that thing is running flysky?

[quiet brook]

For gimbal drones I would suggest looking into INAV if your flight controller supports it

[quiet brook]

Yes

[last river]

thats so scary it should be illegal

frame costs more than a whole pocket lol

[granite bay]

What am I supposed to do

[last river]

buy elrs

[granite bay]

😭

[last river]

flysky is that bad

[quiet brook]

preferably

Look, I've spent 3 hours with another guy trying to get FlySky working like 5 days ago

It isn't worth it anymore

[last river]

its really not

[quiet brook]

Look how many messages lol

[last river]

frsky at least functions

lmao

[quiet brook]

And we gave up and he bought a pocket lol

[granite bay]

Oh well I need survo pins and some how it can communicates with the flit stack and I don't know what controller should get

[quiet brook]

Looks similar to my old ardupilot

[quiet brook]

Servo pins?

The stormbgc gimbal controller can take a rotary input such as from a potentiometer and adjust the gimbal position that way

[last river]

get a radiomaster pocket and any generic elrs reciever

it will work

whats your fc?

[granite bay]

?

[quiet brook]

For real, get a serial-based ELRS receiver. This is pain

[last river]

what flight controller board do you have

[granite bay]

Speede be v4

[quiet brook]

If it would be 2018, or even 2020 I would not say this, but come on, flysky in 2025 shouldn't be an option

[granite bay]

I had this controller since 2020

[last river]

https://pyrodrone.com/products/betafpv-elrs-nano-receiver-2-4ghz https://pyrodrone.com/products/radiomaster-pocket-m2-rc-transmitter-choose-version-and-color?variant=40848425877547

buy this

it will work

the nightmare ends

[quiet brook]

Not the betafpv receiver

I don't trust it, idk

[last river]

i got a flysky controller in 2017 and it was old then

[quiet brook]

Radiomaster recievers are more reputable imo

[granite bay]

I can't I need survo pins

[last river]

what why not

i have a ton and theyre fine

[last river]

no you do not

you will use your fc for that

[granite bay]

For my gimbel

[last river]

no

[granite bay]

And survo

[last river]

you use the speedybee as your servo outputs

do not get a pwm reciever

[quiet brook]

BetaFPV has released bad ELRS hardware in the past, notably the ELRS module, which had many issues.

[quiet brook]

I guess now it's fine

[last river]

their receivers are fine lol

[quiet brook]

I have a BetaFPV receiver on my tinywhoop and it works great, so...

Yeah

[last river]

if they have an official elrs target its fine

i have a super d on my 5" and like 3 or 4 of those ^

[granite bay]

Bro I am also trying to use this for air soft to 😭

[last river]

i dont see how thats relevant chief

[quiet brook]

And @granite bay when you order the pocket make sure to select the ELRS version, not CC2500 or whatever it's called

[granite bay]

Ok show me how I can connect 4 survos to any of the equipment you sent me

[quiet brook]

Hold on

@granite bay

[granite bay]

Yes

[last river]

you dont

[quiet brook]

Why you trying to connect servos to it??

[last river]

you connect them to the speedybee

[quiet brook]

You can either connect them to the FC

[last river]

you need 4?

[granite bay]

The gimble and the extra survo

[quiet brook]

But the board that you use with your gimbal (that runs Storm32) drives the servos

[quiet brook]

Servo for what, to drop something?

[last river]

https://www.speedybee.com/speedybee-f405-v4-bls-55a-30x30-fc-esc-stack/ you have this right?

[granite bay]

Yes

Also yes

[quiet brook]

The servos for gimbal are driven by the gimbal board

And you want another servo to drop stuff? Just wire it directly to the speedybee then

[last river]

m5 6 7 and 8 are your servo outputs

also its illegal to drop stuff if youre in the US

just so you know

[granite bay]

Ok how about the gimbal

[quiet brook]

Just gonna say this here: be careful when loading stuff onto your drone and dropping it, especially with a 10 inch or whatever you have

If something goes wrong... well, let's say it's not going to end well for the drone nor anything it hits

[last river]

right here

and the led pad

5 pwm outputs

[quiet brook]

The gimbal you sent me probably has a board to control it

[granite bay]

Yes i'm going by the rules and regulations of the website from the air soft feald

[quiet brook]

Which runs Storm32 or SimpleBGC. It supports PWM input to control tilt, wire that to the motor outputs and use it from the remote using a potentimoter or whatever you prefer

[granite bay]

It's dus not

I bought it first Gen brother

[quiet brook]

This says 3 axis gimbal + Storm32 Controller

Well, then you better get a controller, because I don't think that Betaflight has built-in gimbal stabilization functionality

[granite bay]

It's discontinued now

[granite bay]

Ok

[quiet brook]

Betaflight can drive servos, but it doesn't know how to deal with gimbals, I think

Maybe @last river can confirm/deny this

By "deal with servos" I mean to send appropriate inputs for the servos to actually hold the camera straight

[last river]

afaik yes

that is correct

[quiet brook]

But they aren't really servos, they're motors, or should be at least...

[last river]

there may be a way to do the gimbal thing but im not sure

[granite bay]

I just want to keep everything separated like the fly sky that's why I need help for it though

[last river]

i think they might be brushless servos. servos do use motors lol

[last river]

and we're telling you keeping it seperate is stupid and old technology

borderline unsafe with how bad flysky is

and how big that thing is

[quiet brook]

Wait... You want FlySky for gimbal and servo, and then ELRS for the flight controller? Makes no sense to me

Also, is it your first quad? Starting with a 10+ inch seems sketch to me

[last river]

they want one rx that will run into the fc and the gimbal

doesnt want the signal for the gimbal to come from the fc

which is stupid

[quiet brook]

That's not possible with a serial connection afaik

[granite bay]

Ok but please give me something with multi pin so I can control 4 survos control a drone

[last river]

no

[granite bay]

Ok

[last river]

that is not the correct way to do it

you use the pads on the fc

[quiet brook]

@granite bay can you give us an idea of what you're trying to build and for what purpose?
I'm just thinking, a Betaflight quad will be hard to fly line-of-sight or using a gimballed camera.

[last river]

led pad and m5-8 will all work

[quiet brook]

Maybe for your purpose it would make sense to go for Ardupilot or INAV for autonomous flight modes...
Depends on your usecase

[granite bay]

@quiet brook ok I ma dm you about it

[quiet brook]

Nah just write it here

This context is important for anyone trying to help here

[granite bay]

Oh

Okay it's loading

[quiet brook]

Ok, what I find strange is that the receiver is outputting PWM and SBUS at the same time? Is that even possible?

[granite bay]

Idk

[quiet brook]

The reason it's not working in Betaflight is that your firmware is compiled for CRSF protocol

[quiet brook]

As seen here

I'm not sure that pinout of the receiver is right though... Does it output SBUS or iBus?

[granite bay]

Okay

[last river]

im not sure tbh lol

[last river]

you guys know this is completely wrong right?

[granite bay]

According to the Manual I can program it to be sbus or I buss

[quiet brook]

I know that on some FlySky radios you can set it to output PWM/PPM at the same time as IBUS/SBUS

[granite bay]

On the controller

[quiet brook]

Yes, on the controller

I don't know about iBus really, it is a FlySky protocol

But I never used it

[last river]

ibus is just univerted sbus

[quiet brook]

Oh ok

[last river]

sbus must go on an sbus fc pad that is just an inverted rx pad

ibus just goes to an rx pad

[quiet brook]

But still, the firmware @granite bay has flashed is NOT for SBUS nor iBus

[granite bay]

Okay

[last river]

you can also use ppm but that is ancient and im not sure how it works

[quiet brook]

PPM is slow for today's standards

It's slower than PWM

Look, I gave you the solution already at the start @granite bay

[quiet brook]

here

It is not ideal, but it will work, if you don't wanna switch to ELRS

[granite bay]

That's why I am looking for something that is like fly sky but I am able to use pins for 4 survos and up today's standards

[quiet brook]

Okay, but that isn't the right way to do it anymore, to have servos wired to the receiver directly

You can just wire the servos to the flight controller, and they'll do the same thing as being wired to the receiver in the old days

[granite bay]

But I can only use on survo I might as well control it separately

[quiet brook]

What do you mean one servo? you can control 4 servos easily

[granite bay]

With one pin on the speedy bee flight stack like the other guy suggested

[quiet brook]

Motor 5-8 pads can be used for servos

[quiet brook]

By this I meant: What is the purpose for this drone? What are you trying to do with it? I haven't seen many drones with servos and gimbals on this server in a while, they're not common, this is why I'm asking.

Also @granite bay , is this your first drone?

[granite bay]

No I made this this little guy from scratch

[quiet brook]

But like your first FPV drone with betaflight?

Because they're quite dangerous, especially while this big lol

[granite bay]

This little guy I got off from facebook marketplace

[quiet brook]

Oh, the Cetus pro

[granite bay]

I think I know I had to replace the mother bord and buy a new controller

[quiet brook]

This little guy and the big quad you're building are very different in many ways. Just gotta warn you to be careful with the big quad

[granite bay]

I know my second one I broke it sadly because of wind

I have the frame now

Here is the fram all guted

[quiet brook]

That F450 frame lol

[granite bay]

Yep

[quiet brook]

The first frame I had

[granite bay]

This is my first flight controller

[quiet brook]

I can't even recognize it

[last river]

i have never seen that

[quiet brook]

Why does it have a screen lol

And does it run like Ardupilot 2.x from 2010 or what?

[granite bay]

Vary out dated I got it when I was 5

I mean I can turn it on to see

[quiet brook]

No need, was just curious

[granite bay]

This is like beta flight butt on your hands

Great memories but so hard to program

According to the manufacturer this was designed in 2001

[last river]

like betaflight but no 8k looptimes

[granite bay]

Yes You have the program every single thing about it

It was a miserable loophole But it worked

[granite bay]

ok i got my self a frsky because my parents wont let me get elrs because of how much they charge and i fount a frsky for a cheep price on fasbook and comes with a resever but i still need to use s buss or i buss so how do i flash that into my speede bee

[last river]

elrs is literally cheaper than frsky

depends what reciever you have

probably sbus

hopefully sbus

[granite bay]

i am getting it for 25 dollars from Facebook market place great find

can somone help me with flashing

i did save a back up but i am struggling with flashing 😦

i am getting this controller

come with this resever 2

[last river]

dude it was 25 dollars for a reason

we gave you advice and you simply did not take it

[granite bay]

the advise you gave me made no sense for the project i am doing at that point what is the point of fpv when it just going to be worshiping Elrs for every on to use. and what's the point of getting this product when every thing i have coast the same as this for a heavy lift drone.

or even this one

[last river]

the radio you bought is over 10 years old. you can complain about us worshipping elrs all you want but damn near every single person on here uses it because it is 100 times more reliable than your decade old used radio

not to mention, it being a "heavy" drone means you need it to be reliable just to be safe

one of those x8r recievers cost almost 40 dollars new

you can spend 9.99 on an elrs reciever, with 10-100x better range, probably about 200x faster refresh rate, open source, currently still getting updates, much much smaller, and easier to setup

you cant complain that we arent doing something right when youre ordering off amazon and have a bunch of 10-20 year old stuff