#problems with motor 😭

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mighty stratus
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My motor is damaged, it doesn’t spin properly.
The bell is unstable and bounces on the shaft.
I think the magnets are unbalanced.
Can someone help?

stiff eagle
mighty stratus
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Ok one sec

stiff eagle
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And saying "I think the magnets are unbalanced" isn't really a thing, cause if they get "unbalanced" you either pointed an electromagnet at them, or they just fell off

mighty stratus
mighty stratus
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The magnets are still on there

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And i do you think that it could the shaft which is bent?

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It doesnt look like it tho

stiff eagle
mighty stratus
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Oh crap

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What happened to the bell?

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It looks okay

stiff eagle
# mighty stratus

Can you take a picture with the shaft on the middle being straight relative to the camera ?

mighty stratus
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Ye

stiff eagle
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And of the stator without the bell

mighty stratus
worthy elk
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Have you lost the screw that holds the bell to the main assembly of magnets

stiff eagle
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If not, try to re tighten it, if you did, any short-ish m3 screw will work

mighty stratus
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No screws, only these

stiff eagle
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Oh, well that's the issue

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Put the bell back on, grab a short m3 screw, and from under the motor, screw on the bell

mighty stratus
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Oh ok ill try that

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But the motor doesnt originally come with a screw in it

stiff eagle
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Cause your motor might use a c clip

mighty stratus
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Yeah sure
But can you give some time, i have to go out rn 😭.

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Worst moment to leave fr

valid citrus
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@stiff eagle this motor doesn't have a retention screw, it uses a C-clip

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@mighty stratus did you need to remove that black C-clip in order to take the bell off, or were you able to take the bell off without removing anything?

valid citrus
# mighty stratus

The movement in this video suggests to me that the bearing may be destroyed

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Even without the C-clip in place it should not wiggle that much

mighty stratus
valid citrus
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Very not good. Unless you're comfortable with replacing press-fit bearings, it's probably time for a new motor

mighty stratus
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The thing is that normally the bell snaps onto the stator automatically.
But now it refuses to snap onto the stator without me forcing it in

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The magnets repulse each other

valid citrus
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Try desoldering the motor leads from the ESC

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Once you've done that, see if the motor bell pops back on like you'd expect it to

mighty stratus
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Oh ok
Ill try that once i get home

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But kinda new to this problem

valid citrus
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If removing the motor from the ESC causes the magnetism of the bell to behave normally, then you also have a bad/shorted ESC, and you'll need to replace both the motor (wiggly bell bad) and the ESC

mighty stratus
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Ohhh

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Shit

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If i may ask, why would the esc influence the way the belle snaps to the stator

valid citrus
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Yea, I'll try to give a "brushless motors simplified" version

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The MOSFETs in an ESC are what controls power flow to each of the 3 phases in the motor (like fancy micro-electronic switches). The ESC alternates power flow through these MOSFETS into the phase coils of the motor stator--that power flow interacts with the permanent magnets on the bell, causing it to spin. Conversely, if you manually rotate the bell, it induces power in the coils, which feeds back into the ESC.

If an ESC has a shorted MOSFET (switch stuck open), then two of the phases in the motor are connected to each other. When you manually rotate the bell in this case, the power flows from one coil to the next, causing what we call "back EMF", which you feel as the bell being much harder to rotate by hand--like it's resisting you.

When you de-solder the motor from the ESC, you remove the motor from that connection, so rotating the bell by hand should be easy again

mighty stratus
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Oh damn

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Thank you very much for the explanation

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It helps a lot

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I appreciate it

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So the esc influences the motor even if the drone is not powered on?

valid citrus
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It's all an interconnected system, so yes, there are ways that they function together even when power isn't applied

mighty stratus
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Oh ok

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Yeah

worthy elk
stiff eagle
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Plus my internet crapped out on me midway through the discussion so that was mildly inconvenient

tender venture
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Yeah bearings are fucked

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Motors done for

mighty stratus
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@valid citrus

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You cant see it in the picture but some magnets touch the stator and some dont

mighty stratus
valid citrus
mighty stratus
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Ok 👍

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I guess a new motor is the way to go

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Rip motor