Linux Chat

[ripe stream]

-# summation of fishies?

[tame lantern]

perchance

[austere creek]

https://turbo.fish/::<Vec<f64>>

turbo fish?

[tame lantern]

I’m not smart enough to make that :(

[ripe stream]

i have the gut feeling that the whimsical speeding fish are only pacifying my curiosity in ordeer to lead my mind astray from the fact that you just grabbed my IP with that site

[tame lantern]

I like that I can select the fish as they go by

[austere creek]

I know where your house sleeps and your bed lives

[ripe stream]

good

https://turbo.fish/::<<<°◡>

happy fish

[austere creek]

not valid smh

[ripe stream]

idk my fish are happy

[opal abyss]

Guys which Linux distribution should I use on my ThinkPad from 2010

I have an old Ubuntu Version running on it at the moment but I don't really like it

I use it mainly for microcontroller stuff

[austere creek]

something rolling-release-ish if you're doing anything development wise

otherwise just stick to debian or mint or something

[ripe stream]

I feel like Mint is pretty great in eating up minimal ram

It's been the most plug n play in my experience i.e. even if you're an advanced user, it's always nice to have your WiFi working immediately rather than having to dig for your random proprietary drivers lol

[opal abyss]

thx

I was already considering mint, I've used it once and I liked the interface

[austere creek]

i recommend you get the debian version of mint though

so get LMDE

[austere creek]

https://stopthemingmy.app/

only Gnome users could come up with something so insane

just completely batshit insane

[stray sierra]

can linux things stop doing stupid stuff

first ubuntu

now gnome

[austere creek]

um

gnome has always been like this

Gnome people have never wanted you to use it or modify it whatsoever

that is what Gnome stands for

[stray sierra]

ok, always ubuntu and always gnome

[austere creek]

it's lovely

[stray sierra]

linux moment

[ripe stream]

From what i vaguely recall it's not about asking people to stop modding gnome, rather asking [vendors?] to not modify it in a way that breaks things, if that's what you're getting at

[austere creek]

oh no they just want people to stop modifying anything at all

not just vendors

[ripe stream]

for whatever reason, gnome, even 100% stock, works great with me, but I do understand (and kinda contribute ) to the hate for how uncustomizable gnome is compared to other DEs

[ripe stream]

tbh I thought that was the knee jerk incorrect interpretation side of the issue

i might be wrong

it's been a while since i read that and I never very read deep into it anyways

not to mention that my "ricing" experience is limited to Extensions

-# "better than windows, at least" in my mind

[tame lantern]

I once saw someone somehow made windows 11 look like most peoples hyprlands do

[opal abyss]

That's the last time for Ubuntu to wake up

Today I can finally flash mint

Nice, for some reason I can't even get into my account anymore to save my data

This thing is so messed up

For some reason it's lagging really hard

Oh no it freeze again

[next knoll]

disk?

[opal abyss]

Idk

Theres a ssd inside

I'll just keep rebooting until I have all my data copied, then I'll just wipe that thing

Luckily there's not much on it

It just gets worse and worse

Can I just plug the ssd in a sata port on my pc and copy the data from there?

[opal abyss]

It doesn't even let me log in anymore?

[ripe stream]

@opal abyss any chance you could boot the mint live environment, mount the ssd, and copy the "ubuntu data" over to something else temporarily?

only problem is if said ubuntu data is encrypted or smth, I think

[opal abyss]

Yeah I'm trying to move the data rn

[ripe stream]

if it's GUI/DE problems, you could probably just boot to a terminal and cp stuff over to some temporary storage lol

[ripe stream]

ah, ok

[opal abyss]

On a Windows PC, im trying to figure out how I can access the data

[ripe stream]

ohh, there's some program that allows windows to browse ext4 partitions

uhh

it's called

hang on, it's on my windows partition

nevermind, that's my windows SFTP software

i used to have an ext4 browser tho. one sec

if you still need it

[opal abyss]

Ext2fsd?

Disk internals Linux reader?

That's what chatgpt suggests

[ripe stream]

cannot remember name of the program or look of the GUI to save own life
immediately recognizes the Cat

yep that's probably the one

I mean, either should do the job just fine

[opal abyss]

Thx for the help, as reward I gift you this photo of my cat

[ripe stream]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-happy-happysteam-steam-gif-1779654035932426850

[opal abyss]

Yay it works

[ripe stream]

yeeey

[opal abyss]

Now I just have to hope that mint installs without problems and my ThinkPad has no hardware damage

[ripe stream]

as much as i like gnome, Mint has actually been the only one that I've never had problems with immediately after installing

even handles wacky old wifi drivers great. you should be fine so long as the hardware's existent lol

Oh, plus thinkpads I've heard are great for linux. that's a plus

[opal abyss]

If it works well, I might look for a new battery, that things has like 30 seconds battery lifetime

I like it because it's so incredible lightweoght

[ripe stream]

hehe awesome

is it a powerful enough laptop to, like, daily drive?

or is it a really old one

[opal abyss]

ThinkPad x201

From 2009 or so

Just a few years younger than me

Not enough power for the programs I need at school

[ripe stream]

sadge

but it should be "usable"

mint is super light, even compared to gnome

[opal abyss]

They need Windows anyways

[opal abyss]

Yeah, if it's not some graphical stuff it's usually fine

[ripe stream]

fair enough

[opal abyss]

For programming microcontrollers and similar

[ripe stream]

ironically this HP laptop I've been donated, released in 2015 i believe, is worse

it's known for being surprisingly bad for its age

it's got a terrabyte spinning rust inside though so I just tertiary-backup my most important things to it and let it sit

it's barely usable with a couple tabs open

[opal abyss]

My main laptop is hp, it's quite good

But heavy af

[opal abyss]

Okay im now ready to install it, should I choose cinnamon xfce or mate?

[austere creek]

https://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

if you don't want that just pick whichever you like, probably just cinnamon or whatever

[opal abyss]

Thx

I just figured out that this is what Im doing rn

The installation guide is nice

I'm downloading lmde cinnamon

[opal abyss]

Almost done but I already like it

[ripe stream]

@rose tundra ngl this is the friendliest linux chat i've been in LOL

[rose tundra]

not sure about this one but well

I think this is good TLDR for linux community

[stray sierra]

oh mb let me fix that

[ripe stream]

yeah reddit is like the single worst linux source I've eever seen

or, just reddit in general

that, and one other discord I'm in where they have actual unsupported distros

[stray sierra]

reddit is just the worst

[rose tundra]

the forums are also the same

of course there are exceptions

but still

[ripe stream]

honestly I haven't interacted in many forums. i kinda stick with discord

[rose tundra]

discord is like everything

you can meet some of the nicest people here

and some of the stupidest and rudest people

[ripe stream]

honestly I think that's just every community everywhere. The worst ones are always the one you find first cause they have lots of activity and are loud

100% to both lol

this specific server is my favorite though. that's how I ended up with helper and everything. it's a community actually worth my time

[stray sierra]

real

[rose tundra]

[rose tundra]

seems to be mainly americans tho

[ripe stream]

..."linux server"

open source raindrop

[ripe stream]

partially yes but partially that's the current timezone lol

lots of europeans too

[stray sierra]

im going to be so lonely when i move time zones

[ripe stream]

You'll discover the Other Side of the server

-# G o o d L u c k

[stray sierra]

i already have

its always empty

[ripe stream]

sadge

just get up incredibly early and establish dominance

[stray sierra]

or stay up really late

[ripe stream]

-# i specifically did not say that

[stray sierra]

i did tho

[ripe stream]

https://tenor.com/view/well-obviously-sassy-gif-5444908

[opal abyss]

If I have the choice, should I install software from flathub or directly from the website? Arduino ide fr example

[austere creek]

either from the package repository

or if it isn't in there

from flathub

[opal abyss]

Okey dokey

Thanks

[tame lantern]

I love how people always talk about how complicated installing stuff on linux is then all it is is just yay -S thing

or whatever you use

[ripe stream]

I think the impression is that these just don't exist because bad

[opal abyss]

Those snapshots are great

For some reason the terminal stopped working, I went back to the latest snapshot and everything was fine again

[tame lantern]

everyone

I have a confession to make

im using ubuntu

[austere creek]

why

[tame lantern]

its easy

[sharp helm]

are you using the server version as a desktop?

[tame lantern]

no silly

[austere creek]

everything else also is?

stop being fooled by random crap like that

"Linux isn't ready for gaming" 5 seconds later "I love my Steam Deck" comments are also making me go insane

ubuntu server is debian but with added bloat unless you have very specific goals

[austere creek]

lol

i meant bloat in the

"literally ads in your terminal" way

[sharp helm]

i love getting an ad while trying to show off my neofetch

[tame lantern]

I can just run a server on arch

I dont see that going wrong

[sharp helm]

i cant believe this is real

[stray sierra]

you still run a OS

how bloated

i stare at my monitor and just invision the linux running on it

[sharp helm]

the only OS i use is templeOS

[tame lantern]

I use dos

[stray sierra]

i use apple dos™️

[tame lantern]

sudo rm -rf / is fun

[opal abyss]

Hell yeah

Look at my pronouns

[austere creek]

that's not the French language code

you spelt it backwards...

[tame lantern]

-rf and -fr both can mean french language pack

[austere creek]

https://rotatingsandwiches.wordpress.com/

[stray sierra]

that definitely works as advertised

[austere creek]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-linux-users-technology-browser-gif-19105729

[uncut obsidian]

tried installing jellyfin like that, didn't work

Ubuntu I think

Gnome

[austere creek]

I mean Jellyfin is a server application that even though command line is harder to install on Windows lol

[uncut obsidian]

no the media player

[austere creek]

oh i didn't know that existed

[opal abyss]

Geometry dash music is great

[uncut obsidian]

what else do you use

[austere creek]

the website

web ui

[uncut obsidian]

ah the web player doesn't have proper hardware encoding

makes the cpu in my brother's server throttle with really high quality movies

[austere creek]

we have some kind of modern intel cpu that has some form of hardware encoding in it

which does fine

[uncut obsidian]

neat

[austere creek]

I don't really watch on the computer generally

[uncut obsidian]

so you use the app?

[austere creek]

TV

some shitty fire tv app

[uncut obsidian]

ah

[agile pumice]

Anyone know how to get deep hibernation mode to work? Been trying to get it to work but I've never gotten it to work on any distro I've tried 😅 Fedora, Ubuntu, and now currently on Arch. Here's my grub options: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 quiet mem_sleep_default=deep resume=/swap" it seems to hibernate okay but then it just refuses to resume and I have to force shutdown and restart my laptop

[tame lantern]

is there a way to install windows on a compooper with linux without yeeting grub

[stray sierra]

maybe

[agile pumice]

Yes for sure. I did it at one point. Installed Linux first then Windows and it worked fine. I forget exactly what I did though 😭

[tame lantern]

I know I can just reinstall grub after but I no no wanna

[next knoll]

if you're installing windows on a completely different disk than grub is on, yes

but you need to get a little bit creative because Windows installer has zero respect for linux

Baaaaasicallly you ideally want to unplug the disk that has grub on it

ideally all of the disks that aren't getting windowsed

install windows on the disk
then replug the grub disk, boot whatever grub is booting, regenerate grub, and hope it werks

[tame lantern]

I should build Linux from scratch

arch isn’t fun anymore

[austere creek]

just try out gentoo

basically halfway there

[opal abyss]

Start your own os

[agile pumice]

Linux From Scratch seemed fairly straightforward - you planning on just following the book?

[cobalt vessel]

just install arch, install your choice of everything solved.

[agile pumice]

arch isn’t fun anymore
I don't think installing Arch is the solution here lol

[cobalt vessel]

leaving arch to any other distro is like selling a v12 buying ahonda and exspecting the same level of power. makes no sense sorry m8. arch offers far more than most. and my kid could do it.

[agile pumice]

Uhhh... no?

LFS is far more manual than Arch is

Well it's not really a distro so I guess your statement stands. But it's not really relevant to @tame lantern

[cobalt vessel]

this is true, exploding lipos have nothing todo with a pc there for isnt linux at all. so ill just leave ya to it lol

[agile pumice]

Okay so I get you're willfully being obtuse but also I have no idea what you're actually trying to say either

[cobalt vessel]

i probably dont either. just trolling lol be blessed m8

[agile pumice]

Trolling may be more effective with readable grammar lol

[cobalt vessel]

thats no fun 🙂

[ripe stream]

Flynn, I will formally mute you if I ever see this size of a generic yellow emoji fill my screen ever again. Even if it is not sent by you. Simply out of spite.

[agile pumice]

Noted

[tame lantern]

carl

[ripe stream]

TUTEL

-# this is acceptable

[tame lantern]

he has a name.

[ripe stream]

he not tutel?

https://youtu.be/oxzEdm29JLw

[tame lantern]

he is carl

[tame lantern]

really not that bad

[tame lantern]

I really don’t like Gentoo

Arch is nice

[agile pumice]

I don't have a good enough laptop to make compiling from source convenient 😅

[tame lantern]

Now that I’ve done gentoo

what’s harder

[agile pumice]

Linux from Scratch?

[austere creek]

try out BSD

[agile pumice]

Setting up Hyprland 😭

[austere creek]

then get familiar with tinycore

then do some dabbling with nixos

[tame lantern]

I’ve wanted to try Nix

[austere creek]

nix is awesome

[agile pumice]

It seems cool. My youngest brother tried it then ran into issues and installed Arch instead 😅

[austere creek]

well... it isn't for desktops

in any way

[agile pumice]

I've definitely seen people use it as a desktop successfully 🤷

Oh there's even a page for it https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_as_a_desktop

[austere creek]

I mean you certainly can

it just really isn't great

[agile pumice]

How come?

[tame lantern]

HyprArch is peak desktop

[agile pumice]

I really want to like Hyprland, but I think I'm the wrong person to use a tiling window manager. I like the animations though lol

[austere creek]

NixOS is really at its core great for reproducability and such

it doesn't like managing config files in home folders and the like and you have to use external modules for that

If you're not actually utilizing the power of Nix then there isn't much of a point either

and even then, you can just install Nix (the language) on anything and use it for most purposes

[agile pumice]

I could see value in using Nix on a desktop if you've got multiple devices, maybe?

[austere creek]

yes absolutely

but then you're adding deployment programs and such as well

but that is another thing Nix is really good at

[agile pumice]

Gotcha. So kinda similar to Docker but better

[austere creek]

somewhat

[tame lantern]

i3wm is cool

I prefer my hyprland but I like the more linuxy look of i3wm if that makes any sense

this just screams I've never spoken to a female

[austere creek]

at least use sway

i3 is practically abandonware

[tame lantern]

because you said that im gonna get rid of fastfetch and install neofetch

[austere creek]

yeah and you're not going to notice the neofetch you're installing is an active fork

sway is literally just i3 but wayland

you can even use your config from i3

[tame lantern]

im just being silly im gonna use sway

[austere creek]

sway my beloved

[austere creek]

https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/computer-chassis/flp01/

[stray sierra]

shame one of the 5.25" bays are fake

but i guess with the internal layout a second 5.25" drive wouldnt fit anyways

[lusty marsh]

uh oh

[tame lantern]

do it

[austere creek]

but do it using the official guide

no automatic tool

if you can't do it using the official guide then you're not ready

[lusty marsh]

i may trust him

wack

he really uh

knows how to secure linux

[austere creek]

dudes just going to be like "here is hardened linux kernel"

"here is disk encrypt"

"yes very secure yes yes"

[lusty marsh]

yea h

[ripe stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/692521012385939486.webp?size=240&animated=true

how many backdoors rounded to the nearest hundred did that guy sneak in

[agile pumice]

What's the point of hardening from an untrusted source lmao

[lusty marsh]

so far so good

[lusty marsh]

now i have arch instead of windows'

wooh

[austere creek]

how does it work

[lusty marsh]

Good*

-# *tpm driver isnt driving so couldnt enroll secure boot

[austere creek]

that's going to delay the person who has your harddrive for a whole 5 seconds

[lusty marsh]

heh lol

i mean yeah..

the drive can be easily yanked out of this laptop because it's somewhat modular

[austere creek]

it'll stop that windows virus you got

oh wait

[ripe stream]

For an android phone that doesn't have a custom rom, what do yall recommend in terms of privacy and debloating? I'm gonna do a full reinstall soon

[stray sierra]

ubuntu mobile

[tame lantern]

Dual boot <3

[ripe stream]

die in a hole

[ripe stream]

okay but seriously why's the developer of paint.net so aggressively opposed to allowing the community to copy the program over to linux lol

[ripe stream]

notice that I never actually mentioned linux in my question

[stray sierra]

fine then im going to remotely install windows mobile

[ripe stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1267565147438714881.webp?size=240&animated=true

windows and canonical, according to reddit, are about the same

but

at least ubuntu got me into Debian

[stray sierra]

putting badly installed arch on your phone

[austere creek]

leah when she doesn't want to understand things

[ripe stream]

termux was eating up a whopping gigabyte and a half

fresh install

everything is gone

there is nothing on my homescreen

all the google apps have been shut up

peace at last

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-zen-focus-walkman-earbuds-gif-12972884

-# also me, installing every Gnome Extension known to man:

[stray sierra]

beams android bloatware to your phone

[stray sierra]

https://youtu.be/Hm1QngWL8nI

[ripe stream]

beams windows 11 to your 50-sensor "DSLR"

[stray sierra]

you know what fuck you

installs windows 10 on your camera

[tame lantern]

I made fastfetch automatically run when I open powershell

I think somethings wrong with me

[agile pumice]

I do that when I start up a new Tmux server

[tame lantern]

I love doing linux stuff in windows

[agile pumice]

If only Tmux was on Windows 😭 Best I can do is Tmux through WSL and like that's kind of objectively better than Windows shells but I don't like having to change the paths from Windows style to Linux style 😢

[tame lantern]

im sure theres gotta be at least 1 good multiplexer for windows

[agile pumice]

I use Wezterm but it kinda sucks at keeping the CWD when splitting panes. I'm considering trying out Ghostty again. Or just sucking it up and doing all my programming through WSL instead

[tame lantern]

screen is giving me issues on my server but I don't wanna bring the server offline to switch to tmux

[agile pumice]

I think I've tried screen once 😅

I really like Tmux though

[austere creek]

vscode?

[agile pumice]

Like as a terminal muxer?

Oh wait no for programming you mean?

[austere creek]

yeah

[agile pumice]

I've gotten too used to Neovim 😭

[austere creek]

vscode has a remote binary it can run via ssh

basically integrates everything perfectly

same for wsl

[agile pumice]

Yeah the VSCode remote tooling is pretty great

[tame lantern]

nano >:3

[agile pumice]

WSL is less of an issue though since you can access the WSL filesystem through Windows anyway though

[agile pumice]

Ew no 😭

[tame lantern]

fuck you I love nano

-# ||I dont mean it sorry||

[agile pumice]

Lmao

It's very good at being a simple text editor. But that's not very useful for programming lol

[tame lantern]

btop ruining my desktop smh

[agile pumice]

Hyprland?

[tame lantern]

yus

[next knoll]

that feeling when you accidentally start a kernel upgrade so youi just have to roll with it and upgrade everything

[tame lantern]

I can’t say I have accidentally upgraded my kernel

[next knoll]

It went exactly as expected

poorly

nevermind

it just took sixteen million years to boot

[tame lantern]

sudo unmount ❌
sudo umount ✔️

[austere creek]

sooo fun fact

in the first edition of Unix you could only have file names that are 8 characters long

umount.c

passwd.c

6 character command name limit plus 8 character file name limit

the syscall is also a similar 6 character limit for a similar reason

[agile pumice]

File extensions are overrated anyway. Gotta use the full 8 characters

[agile pumice]

local IP leaked 😎

[tame lantern]

my ip is 10.30.14.241/17

[opal abyss]

192.168.1.1

[silk solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-arch-linux-desktop-productive-drivers-gif-26104738

https://tenor.com/view/linux-kali-linux-arch-linux-arch-girl-gif-24642405

[agile pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/big-o-notation-computer-science-n-factorial-factorial-shock-gif-16724024526637897574

[stray sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536623076796923928/1311880532359123014/twitter_1861972901026558246.gif

[sharp helm]

192.168.8.134:4409 if anybody wants to print me something

[stray sierra]

can you just port forward that for me

[agile pumice]

My IP's 142.250.190.46 if anyone cares

[austere creek]

my ip is localhost

[uncut obsidian]

eye pee

[ripe stream]

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|            .= E.|
|             .B.o|
|              .= |
|        S     = .|
|       . o .  .= |
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+-----------------+

[lusty marsh]

rip

[sharp helm]

if you want access to my vpn sure lol

[tame lantern]

arch doesnt just

die

its not windows

they mustve done something

[austere creek]

i mean unless they got like

a dying drive or ram

[agile pumice]

Is this the same person that was using a hardened kernel from an unknown source?

[silk solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-gif-25928231

[austere creek]

here's an actual accurate gif to cleanse from the troll

https://tenor.com/view/linux-linux-users-technology-browser-gif-19105729

[stray sierra]

paru -S firefox

[agile pumice]

I don't think I've ever installed an app through a GUI on Linux 💀

[tame lantern]

yay -S zen-browser-bin >>

[stray sierra]

yay

[tame lantern]

paru is better

but I like typing yay

[agile pumice]

I like aura 😅

[austere creek]

smelly

support firefox nerds

[tame lantern]

zen browser is an open source browser based off of firefox which is everything I want out of a browser

why would I want to use firefox

[austere creek]

what do you do on a browser

[stray sierra]

doing this linux thing

[tame lantern]

browse

[austere creek]

what does zen do better

[austere creek]

shitty javascript thing

[tame lantern]

I like the sidebar instead of the normal top bar, it's nice how much customisability there is, thats about it, but it's not like im missing out on anything from firefox, it's based on firefox

[stray sierra]

so be it

[austere creek]

firefox can do those things

[tame lantern]

ok

[austere creek]

i had to turn the dang sidebar off by force

because the button had vanished

[tame lantern]

I don't get why when I say stuff like "I like this thing," people say stuff like "but this can do this and its better" when it really doesn't matter I like what I have

[austere creek]

it's kind of a thing we all do and i tend to be guilty of when its about subjects like this

it certainly doesn't matter what you have, but it is an interesting invitation for discussion to me

i doubt firefox can do better than a native sidebar that zen has, and I don't think I said that or at least I didn't mean to

honestly when I give an opinion myself, I kind of tend to mean it as an invitation to discussion about why and how and what others use

but that could always just be me

[agile pumice]

I too fall in this trap 😅 For me at least, I forget that some people don't actually try a whole bunch of different things and compare them against each other before settling on one. So at least when I ask questions like that, it's a matter of pointing out that this other thing has the same features so in my mind it's not really a reason to pick one over another

[stray sierra]

dats a lotta red

im sure its fine

[austere creek]

if you read it is does say that it is fine

[tame lantern]

wow thats alot of words
too bad im not reading them

this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXPC2HXjrYU

[sharp helm]

zen browser my beloved

not the biggest fan of their logo change though

also the fact some of my themeing doesnt work after finally updating after forever

[ripe stream]

admit it, you left windows because of updating. accept the true linux mindset of never updating anything

[sharp helm]

honestly i forget to ever update stuff on linux

ill run pacman -Syu once every year and only keep flatpaks updated because discover tells me to update them

[ripe stream]

i settled on some stable version of debian so

the few updates I get are usually kbs big

or free up space lol

[next knoll]

Arch is funny in this regard. You either update stuff every day or you let it fester long enough that you're fine with redoing the whole thing from scratch.

Because the upgrade will definitely break Nvidia drivers

[sharp helm]

i should like get pacman -Syu to run every time i boot

might do that when i get my framework as a little experiment

im too scared to jeopardize the stability of my desktop

[austere creek]

i just

don't get why you'd run a rolling release distro

if you're scared of stability and only update once a year

[sharp helm]

i dont have to roll a ball just because its a ball

its my ball and ill roll it as i please

[austere creek]

as you please is being scared for something you caused yourself

lol

[sharp helm]

in reality nothing will probably break but sometimes i use things that like dont get updated often or are just abandoned and updating kind of breaks those things

was pretty annoying going from plasma 5 to 6 and my customization breaking

[agile pumice]

That's... not necessarily a matter of an unmaintained thing breaking though? That's just woes of switching to a new major release in your DE

[sharp helm]

well i also used this thing called Howdy which looking back was pretty dumb

was like a python script or whatever to loin and authenticate stuff with an IR camera through whatever system

did not work at all after updating cus it used some old version of whatever package

[agile pumice]

Oh yeah I tried to get Howdy to work back when I was on Ubuntu. Couldn't get it working and I gave up because it was more a curiosity than a practical application for me 😅

[sharp helm]

it was kind of hit and miss for me

i just yearn for a fingerprint reader

I really just need to find one

[agile pumice]

But like also if it's on the AUR then you could probably see if whoever's maintaining it could update the deps

[agile pumice]

I have one built in to my laptop; it never worked on Linux 😭 It's one of the ones in the Fully Supported list too for fprintd

[sharp helm]

this is like the only decent looking one

and its $82

time is the most valuable thing there is and all

[austere creek]

why not just

get a yubikey or similar with a fingerprint reader

[sharp helm]

but do i really want to spend $82 just to save it

[sharp helm]

because im just scrolling through amazon and havent seen it yet

[austere creek]

then you can at least store your keys on there as well

[sharp helm]

how do these things even work?

dont you just like plug it in to verify

idk if they have any other fingerprint version but id have to get a usb extender or something

i dont wanna reach up to my sideways usb ports to read my fingerprint

its also the same price as that kengston one i sent

if not more expensive

[austere creek]

it's an entirely different kind of device

[sharp helm]

ill do my research eventually but i dont think i need it

my only devices are my PC, Deck, and soon to be Framework

framework has fingerprint built in, no point of fingerprint on deck, and im still on the fence if i even want fingerprint on my desktop

[austere creek]

i store all my keys on a tiny little yubikey

that you can't really even see in the back

my SO has one on her keychain

for phone and stuff

[sharp helm]

are you able to put all your passwords for accounts on it?

instead of it being saved on firefox/chrome?

[austere creek]

uuuh you might be able to

my SO just has it set up so that it is the master keys to her password manager

she has two, one on her keychain and a backup one in a safe place

[sharp helm]

thats probably all id really use it for but i feel like i remember apps needing to support it

[austere creek]

pretty much everything does nowadays

[sharp helm]

or websites rather but thats probably it actually using whatever protocol instead of a password

[silk solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-linux-users-gif-24927537

[austere creek]

are you ever going to stop gif spamming in here

[agile pumice]

https://youtu.be/lm51xZHZI6g

[ripe stream]

This meme was in fact funny at one point, but by now we all see it about a hundred times a day

[austere creek]

i only see it from them and im already sick of it

[ripe stream]

while true, the're ragebaiting for more matieral to prove the angry linux user stereotype and are winning

[austere creek]

i mean in any space that isn't toxic hell

that stereotype doesn't exist

so I sure wonder if that somehow has to do with each other

lol

what they're doing is the equivalent of joining an fpv server just to post memes about how annoying fpv is

while everyone is just chilling

[uncut obsidian]

LIJNUX IS EBWTTER THAN EVERYTHIONG ELSE AND NO I'M NOT FAT

[tame lantern]

where is the arch neofetch

[agile pumice]

Nah hyfetch is where it's at

[tame lantern]

Respectfully, you’re wrong

fastfetch

[agile pumice]

I do use fastfetch

[uncut obsidian]

I'd get flamed for using manjaro

[tame lantern]

why do you use manjaro?

just asking out of curiosity

[uncut obsidian]

i wanted to give arch based a try, mainly out of interest for the AUR

at the time seemed to me like the easiest way in

[tame lantern]

thats very valid

[austere creek]

then you shouldn't use arch

there be an entry barrier for a reason

[night matrix]

Guys I have a PC (dell G15 5515 w/ I7 and RTX 3060)

It ran windows 11

Then I switched to POP_OS!

Crazy performance

But whenever I tried to use the RTX it just died

So I could play games with integrated graphics

But that just sucked

Never found an answer to this problem and switched back to Windows

Anyone here know ?

[austere creek]

nvidia is the problem

you could try their proprietary drivers if those don't come with pop os

[night matrix]

Yeah but Pop! Specifically advertises about Nvidia support

[night matrix]

Tried that

Several times

[austere creek]

i don't know how you'd try that several times

kind of an install and done deal

[night matrix]

Well tried one driver, the other, again and again

Also that sucks because Wine offers great performance

[uncut obsidian]

screenshotted and made into a gif with a fat guy wearing a tuxedo

a uh

[austere creek]

all i see for years is manjaro fucking up and people not being able to handle arch

[uncut obsidian]

wrong word

[austere creek]

crying

[uncut obsidian]

what is the hat called

[uncut obsidian]

i don't think i cried because of manjaro yet

[agile pumice]

Fedora

[uncut obsidian]

thx

[next knoll]

yeah that pretty much sums up the nvidia experience

the first time I tried to get nvidia shit working on Arch, JUST TO BE ABLE TO DISABLE IT (laptop), I nuked the whole OS like 5 times

[ripe stream]

-# insert Bad To The Bone intro riff here

i'm sorry i had to

[tame lantern]

easyeffects is a nice piece of software

[ripe stream]

I prefer the UI of pulseeffects but I now have pipewire

[tame lantern]

Why sadge about upgrade

[agile pumice]

No old UI, I assume. Looks like it became a GTK app when it became EasyEffects?

[tame lantern]

I wanna bind the copilot key to something in my hyprland, but im not quite sure what it would be called

[agile pumice]

What do you mean? Pretty sure the keyccode generated is f23. There are a number of command line tools you can use to verify this

[austere creek]

https://old.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/1ipvv76/ysk_your_android_may_have_installed_system/

fun stuff

[sharp helm]

Thank you

[ripe stream]

I didn't expect to have it it on android 12 but lo and behold. many thanks

[uncut obsidian]

cool stuff

[tame lantern]

companies doing stuff to my hardware without me having any say in it fills me with a rage I don't get from much else

[austere creek]

i love that google basically just has a backdoor to my device at all times

or a frontdoor... i guess

[ripe stream]

"backdoor"? my brother in technology, your front door is a beaded curtain and the garage door is seized open

[lusty marsh]

rip

[tame lantern]

using a terminal file manager is hard to get used to

[agile pumice]

What does a terminal file manager give you? Just a TUI?

[tame lantern]

its just

a file manager

in a terminal

it has no practical reason to be used on my system

I just thought it would be fun

[austere creek]

(so yes, a tui)

[tame lantern]

dolphin is too boring

[agile pumice]

Does it give you file thumbnails and stuff? For images/PDFs etc

[tame lantern]

no

[agile pumice]

Sad. Seems like something it could do

[ripe stream]

I've heard that "Ranger" or smth is a TUI that can give thumbnails and everything, never figured it out tho

[tame lantern]

Ranger is what I'm using

[ripe stream]

-# (i gave it near zero effort)

oh i c

did you try to set up the thumbnail things yet?

or maybe it was a file preview

i know it doesn't do it by default

[tame lantern]

I didn't know that was a thing

[agile pumice]

I assume it'll depend heavily on what terminal emulator you're using too since there's like 5 different image display protocols out there

[tame lantern]

kitty my beloved

[ripe stream]

it gave me like five options for file preview programs and I just tried one. I probably screwed something up

i really should get a vm working so that I can try this stuff out sans repercussions

[ripe stream]

viu

[agile pumice]

UNDERTALE reference 👀

[tame lantern]

I have never gotten hyprland to run without any issues in a VM

[agile pumice]

Really? It worked for me on Arch. Was super straightforward to install too

[tame lantern]

hmm, weird

virtualbox?

[agile pumice]

Ohh never mind I misread your message 😭

[austere creek]

For Vmware/VirtualBox users, it may be necessary to enable 3D acceleration in order to run Hyprland properly.

did you read the first note

[tame lantern]

I did

[agile pumice]

I thought you meant you weren't able to get it working without using a VM, not that you weren't able to get it working inside a VM

[tame lantern]

emilia must not think very highly of me

[austere creek]

i like to believe i treat everyone equally

people tend to be silly and miss little things

im willing to make a quick install and see if virtio can do it

[tame lantern]

I should see how fast I can install arch

[ripe stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1267565147438714881.webp?size=240&animated=true

[austere creek]

the arch install not having tty by default is some weird bs

[uncut obsidian]

hawk tui

[tame lantern]

heres a good tip

if your arch is working, and you have a ton of updates

dont

[agile pumice]

Or switch to like, Debian or something lol

[next knoll]

if you have a ton of updates, you're not updating often enough 😂

[tame lantern]

yes thats the problem

[tame lantern]

no I like arch

[agile pumice]

Then update it

[tame lantern]

what do yall think of this

when windows forces me to use windows 11, I use a package manager for all my installs instead of manual installation like it usually is

thats one of my favorite things about linux and winget seems decent

[agile pumice]

Winget is... fine

It doesn't have everything and sometimes PATH doesn't get updated properly

It is genuinely pretty good for a lot of programs though

[agile pumice]

When Windows forces you to Win11, just run everything through WSL since it has full support for GUI programs in Win11

[tame lantern]

I've looked into it and it does have its problems but I feel like the benefits outweight them, I don't understand why it's not the standard on windows

[agile pumice]

I think it was just a project started by some MS employees, not an official thing?

Might be misremembering

[tame lantern]

I'm actually not sure what WSL is

[agile pumice]

Windows Subsystem for Linux. It runs Linux in Windows

Kinda similar to how WINE is, it's not a full VM

[tame lantern]

I don't really see that being practical

[agile pumice]

I was kidding. Though genuinely it might be more practical than you may think

I generally use it whenever Neovim in Windows isn't behaving properly, or I need my command-line tools like find, grep, sed, etc.

xargs my beloved ❤️

Here's Nautilus running in Windows 11 through WSL. It behaves mostly like a native app. AltSnap doesn't like it but other than that it's pretty much like any other window

[tame lantern]

nautilus is boring

thats really cool though I wanna try it

[agile pumice]

lol do you want me to screenshot a cooler app?

[tame lantern]

ranger

[agile pumice]

That's the TUI app?

[tame lantern]

mhm

[agile pumice]

Sure here's Ranger running in Tmux through WSL

Uh oh how do I quit nano

nvm found it

Does ranger have a hotkey to quit and cd into the selected directory?

Because I just use zoxide to navigate but ranger could be a cool addition to that maybe if so

[agile pumice]

What do you use Ranger for?

Like what tasks?

[tame lantern]

there is 0 purpose to me using ranger

I just like using terminal

its cool

[agile pumice]

No like what tasks do you use it for?

[tame lantern]

just normal file manager stuff..?

idk what youre asking

[agile pumice]

Like... moving/renaming files and directories?

I still haven't figured it out; is there a way to quit Ranger and cd into the directory you selected in Ranger?

[tame lantern]

fun fact, linux file commands like cd, ls, cp, rm, work in windows powershell

it does not work on terminal or cmd though

[agile pumice]

Kind of. They're stupid and just aliases to Powershell commands

So you can't actually use them as replacements, with the same flags

[agile pumice]

What do you mean by Terminal? As far as I know the only shells that Microsoft has are Command Prompt and the legacy and current versions of Powershell

[tame lantern]

those commands do not work in Windows Terminal, using powershell or cmd

using powershell alone works with those commands but it does not using powershell on the terminal

[agile pumice]

...

[tame lantern]

huh

doesnt work for me

[agile pumice]

They're built-in aliases, they should work

But also, you can just add whatever aliases you want if you want more

Like so in cmd, and with the New-Alias or function definitions in Powershell

For example in Powershell:

[next knoll]

LOL
If you run a local deepseek distill, you can see the model occasionally insult you in its inner thoughts

try to make a typo lol

[night matrix]

Yo guys

Anyone here figure out how to get WSL working on Win11

I tried everything

I need to get OpenFOAM working for CFD

[next knoll]

idk, it always just worked, what issue are you dealing with?

[night matrix]

I installed Ubuntu with it but whenever I launch it I just get an error

"a required feature is not installed"

[austere creek]

does it say more than that

because I remember it saying more than that

[night matrix]

Error 0x80370114

That's all

[austere creek]

by performing very hard work

i found the solution

i want applauds now

[night matrix]

You'll get them

If it works

@austere creek how tf do I elevate the cmd

Sudo is Linux only

-# I miss Linux

[austere creek]

right click open as administrator

i dunno i don't use windows

it's always right click to make magic happen

[night matrix]

Nope didn't fix it

Looking into HyperV

@austere creek Enabling HyperV fixed it
Now you get applauds

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[austere creek]

it was hard grueling work

[agile pumice]

Fun fact the very nice article written by Microsoft that tells you how to run WSL tells you to do this

[austere creek]

how could anyone have known

[agile pumice]

It's simply one of the great mysteries of the world

[night matrix]

Why are you so sarcastic

I did my research, didn't find it.

That's all

Also getting some help from people is better

[agile pumice]

?

[night matrix]

I know

[agile pumice]

I just find it amusing, that's all

It means nothing to my opinion of your character as a person

[austere creek]

it is merely what it appears as and nothing sinister

a fun fact

[night matrix]

Irritating
I did find this article, apparently skipped over that part 🤷‍♂️

[austere creek]

average person not reading the 5 warning boxes on the elrs binding guide

[night matrix]

The error came from the wiring on VBAT

Oh wait

[austere creek]

you see you'll always be better as long as you don't go "no it doesn't say that!!!" when it is the literal first paragraph on the page

[night matrix]

Didn't say it

[austere creek]

painful memories straight from my soul

[night matrix]

Just said I missed it

[night matrix]

Spending 2 days on the ELRS server made me see that too

[austere creek]

it's ALWAYS just people not reading by the way

like 99% of questions asked

it's answered on the extremely well written how to guides already

[night matrix]

Also tbf I only learned what HyperV and 'enabling a feature' were 5mins ago

[austere creek]

you see despite not using windows everyone around me does

and they also use wsl

[night matrix]

Didn't know what WSL was until an hour ago

[austere creek]

it's microsoft seeing all the software devs slowly leave

getting scared and then just making wsl

[night matrix]

It's true windows is getting increasingly crappy

[austere creek]

like most things, we're due for a full reset

[night matrix]

If I could only get the dedicated GPU working I'd switch back to Linux

[austere creek]

nvidia?

[night matrix]

Yea

[austere creek]

yeah good luck

[night matrix]

• integrated graphics

[night matrix]

But Pop! was meant for Nvidia 😭

[austere creek]

yeah but pop is weird as hell

[night matrix]

how is that

[austere creek]

I'll be honest when it released I thought "there is no way this is lasting over a year"

but here we are

[night matrix]

Tbf for non-graphical uses I got a 200x perf increase

[austere creek]

if only firefox would stop being shit

[night matrix]

it's not that bad

I uSe BinG aNd EdGe

[austere creek]

it is nearing unusable and i say this as someone who has been using firefox for just over a decade

[night matrix]

oh my

[austere creek]

I have to relaunch Firefox literally every hour or two because it just slowly slows down to a crawl

yesterday it completely froze up and I had to force kill it

and this is on all releases, ESR, normal and nightly

[night matrix]

They forgot to use smart pointers

[austere creek]

i wish i understood what they're doing to be honest

like a blog post about what's going on would be great

[night matrix]

If OnLy DevS UsEd TheIr Own ProDuct amirite

Why don't they

[austere creek]

but for me without that blog post, the only thing firefox has added is a shitty toolbar that wouldn't go away and annoying buttons that were better elsewhere

[austere creek]

they do, but Google is killing them

Google wants to cut funding etc

[night matrix]

Google is actually Russia-owned

[austere creek]

Firefox is just trying to stay "compelling" but they're failing

I'm excited for Servo, and that's about it in the browser world for me

[austere creek]

I am guessing a lot of this is related to YouTube by the way

[night matrix]

I take it you watch a lot of YT (P)

[austere creek]

there is no focusing going on without constant background noise for me lol

[night matrix]

common excuse

[night matrix]

OK GUYS BIG DECISION

I AM MOVING TO

LINUX

If it is possible to get my fxcking Nvidia working

That's why I'm here

Please help me

[austere creek]

what nvidia

[night matrix]

RTX 3060 dedicated

[austere creek]

no

[night matrix]

Well that dream didn't last

[austere creek]

there is not a full size 3060

in your laptop

[night matrix]

Wym

It's dedicated

[austere creek]

is it a 3060 mobile?

that doesn't mean anythinggg

[night matrix]

I guess

[austere creek]

i am dedicated as well

[night matrix]

Oh

I see

[austere creek]

no you have to be sure

those are quite different gpus

[night matrix]

My PC has both integrated and dedicated

[austere creek]

is it a 3060 or a 3060 mobile

one of those is slower than a 1080 ti

[night matrix]

The specs don't say mobile

Dell G15 5510

[austere creek]

what are the specs

[night matrix]

I'll check

[night matrix]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 laptop GPU

Maybe that's what mobile is

[austere creek]

amd integrated graphics

nvidia dedicated graphics

wow that sounds like the exact setup for a bad time

[night matrix]

No Intel UHD

[night matrix]

It was the worst month of my life

But I want to try again

[austere creek]

i feel like if you want to be switching between them

it's just not going to be a great time

[night matrix]

I'm willing to give up the UHD

I just want these sweet tiled displays

Linux my beloved

[austere creek]

i mean like

here's a question right

do you want to learn Linux? for fun?

spend time on it?

[night matrix]

Ya

[night matrix]

Ya

[austere creek]

are you capable of reading entire pages

[night matrix]

Of docs ? Ya

But I won't bother if it's not possible

@austere creek please tell me if it's possible and I'll be gone

[austere creek]

i mean yes it is

[night matrix]

...without reprogramming the kernel

[austere creek]

if you actually want to learn linux for fun and have infinite time on your hand, you might as well start with the official arch guide. try to read through it and try to understand everything it says

because all the arch guide is is just format and partition the drives, install base packages

and then installing programs and services

[night matrix]

I mean sure

I just want to get the full performance

Of my PC

[next knoll]

Temporarily? Yes
Long-term? EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[night matrix]

Uuh

[next knoll]

let's say that updating nvidia packages or kernel (while running nvidia packages) can sometimes turn into an adventure!

[night matrix]

What I can't figure out is how a lead GPU manufacturer doesn't comply with the number one supercomputer OS

[next knoll]

oh they do

but not for you

you're using consumer drivers

[stray sierra]

linux for me not for thee

[next knoll]

their enterprise deployments have a different set of proprietary drivers

ones that don't really do gaming graphics

just CUDA and shiz

AFAIK

[stray sierra]

tesla :3

[night matrix]

it's ampere now I think

[stray sierra]

thats the microarchitecture name iirc

[austere creek]

nvidia is just the definition of fuck you

[tame lantern]

Why does nobody make drivers for Linux :(

[austere creek]

amd does

they're even contributing to wayland

but hurr durr less raytravcing perofrmanceee

no ai upscalingg\

[tame lantern]

I mean

I have a drawing tablet but they only have drivers for Windows and Mac so I have to figure out what open source drivers would work for it now

[stray sierra]

wacom?

[tame lantern]

Gaomon

[agile pumice]

Wacom just works out-of-the-box for me 😢

I assume you've found this already?
https://github.com/DIGImend/digimend-kernel-drivers/blob/master/README.md

[stray sierra]

@ripe stream https://vxtwitter.com/NavidMafi/status/1895194441541107967

ubuntu in 2026

[next knoll]

I would burn my PC to the ground

[austere creek]

basically Ubuntu already

[tame lantern]

We should all use redhat instead of Ubuntu

[tame lantern]

after trying a bunch of different window managers

hyprland is still on top

it just has all the nice features and its easy to setup and looks good and is light

[agile pumice]

Is there a way to automate opening a bunch of windows in their own group? That was one of the things I could never figure out in my foray into Hyprland

[tame lantern]

I dont really know what you mean

[agile pumice]

You can group windows together, using the mouse and like... hotkeys 'n stuff. I'm asking if there's a way to do that through the startup stuff you can specify in the Hyprland config

[livid jasper]

Hey there, I'm trying to install the impulserc driver fixer on my steam deck (I'm in vacation and that's the closest thing to a computer I have besides my phone, so I do with what I have) to try to trouble shoot an aio, but I can't get it to run, I've downloaded the .exe file, downloaded wine, set it as an executable file, then tried to run it with wine, and I get the jumping wine glass, then he dissapears after a second and neither it or the driver fixer is running (may it be an actual window or in system monitor)
So currently I'm turning nuts

[night matrix]

I take it you're on iPhone

[livid jasper]

Nope, I'm on Android

[night matrix]

Then install BF for android

[livid jasper]

Well I did

I get no communication with the aio

And on my steam deck, I at least get the name of the processor that shows up

[austere creek]

your Steam Deck doesn't run Windows...

[livid jasper]

Nope it doesn't

[austere creek]

it has drivers already

[livid jasper]

Maybe

[austere creek]

not maybe

it does

[agile pumice]

Oh wait is this a serious question 💀

[austere creek]

you need permissions

[livid jasper]

Yes it is, I'm a moron

[night matrix]

Did you try without drivers

[austere creek]

and it is described how in betaflight docs

[night matrix]

Did you even try

[livid jasper]

I did

[agile pumice]

Run BF as sudo

[livid jasper]

Sudo ?

[night matrix]

Absolute permissions on Linux

[agile pumice]

Root user. And use the Linux build of Betaflight

[night matrix]

sudo [insert command] in terminal

[agile pumice]

sudo betaflight in this instance. Only after actually installing it though

The non-windows version

You don't really want to do this in general, but I tried setting up the prmissions the proper way and it didn't work 😢

[austere creek]

how not?

[agile pumice]

It didn't give me permissions to write to the IO port

I assume I just didn't follow the instructions properly, but... I still couldn't get it working

[austere creek]

the permission group is also distro-dependent

I think Betaflight now has adjusted the instructions accordingly

[agile pumice]

Last I checked they only had Ubuntu instructions 😢

[agile pumice]

That would make sense, since the Ubuntu instructions didn't work on Arch lol

[austere creek]

last time I checked... which was probably 2 years ago

Betaflight configurator in the AUR automatically does permissions

https://betaflight.com/docs/wiki/guides/current/installing-betaflight

[agile pumice]

That where I installed it from 💀

[austere creek]

yeah they have more "global" instructions now

[agile pumice]

I might've installed the -bin maybe it only does it when building from source?

[austere creek]

it's been a long time since I last checked lol

I don't use Arch anymore

[agile pumice]

Ooh yeah okay that's way better than the instructions I found last time I tried to get it working 😅

[agile pumice]

Gentoo?

Or Debian

[austere creek]

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed

KDE-first, still rolling-release but more tested so to speak

basically exactly what I needed

[night matrix]

||openBSD||

[livid jasper]

So, I might be an idiot but I've been trying for the past 45min or so to install betaflight through the cli like the documentation tells me to do, quite unsuccessfully, and steamos has a discovery thingy where I can download apps, and betaflight is in there, can I just do it this way ?

[agile pumice]

What command are you trying to run through command line?

Discovery is just Flathub AFAIK, I don't think Betaflight does the actual packaging so your mileage may vary 🤷

[livid jasper]

$ sudo apt install libatomic1
Tells me the command isn't found, so I assume I don't need it ?
$ sudo usermod -a -G plugdev $USER
Tells me the command isn't found, so I assume I don't need it ?
(echo '# DFU (Internal bootloader for STM32 and AT32 MCUs)'
echo 'ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="2e3c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="df11", MODE="0664", GROUP="plugdev"'
echo 'ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0483", ATTRS{idProduct}=="df11", MODE="0664", GROUP="plugdev"') | sudo tee /etc/udev/rules.d/45-stdfu-permissions.rules > /dev/null
Asks me for the password of the steam deck (I can't type any character, maybe it's to hide them ? When I type it in and enter nothing happens)
And then I get confused at step 3 because I don't know what my userid and server is

[agile pumice]

Oh actually so it looks like SteamOS is readonly by default, you'll only be able to install flatpaks through the Discover app

Have you tried that one already?

[livid jasper]

I did install betaflight through discovery

And I can't connect to my aio (failed to open serial port, that's why I wanted to try the driver fixer), but I do get the name of the chip

[agile pumice]

Does it give you any errors?

sudo apt install libatomic1
apt is a package manager for Debian-based distros. SteamOS is a readonly Arch-based distro by default so it won't have it

usermod is probably just not installed

That last command doesn't output anything (as per the > /dev/null thing at the end) so that's expected

[livid jasper]

So what am I supposed to do ?

[agile pumice]

Try running flatpak run --device=all io.github.betaflight.BetaflightConfigurator

Once you have the configurator installed through the Discover app

[livid jasper]

Ok

[livid jasper]

It tells me bash: flatpack: command not found

Oh, nevermind

I added a c

[agile pumice]

Yeah just copy/paste the command or something

[livid jasper]

I would but I forgot my discord password years ago and I don't have discord on my steamdeck

[agile pumice]

So reset your password

[livid jasper]

Someday I will

[agile pumice]

Regardless you can log in through the mobile app using the QR code on the right side of the login screen

[livid jasper]

Well, it opened betaflight now

[agile pumice]

You should do that sooner rather than later. There's no reason not to know your passwords to platforms you regularly use

[livid jasper]

And now I don't even get the name of the chip anymore

[agile pumice]

Does it give you any errors?

[livid jasper]

The log gives me
chrome API Error: Failed to connect to the port..
Failed to open serial port

[agile pumice]

I assume you've also tried the Chrome version, right?

[livid jasper]

I tried but it tells me the Web serial API support is disabled, and I can't find anything anywhere in my settings about that

[agile pumice]

Oh yeah Chrome's probably also a Flatpak

I'll try installing the flatpak on my computer and see if I run into the same issues. Hopefully I do

[livid jasper]

So, turns out it's once again because I'm stupid, brave was screwing around with, I don't know what, downloaded chrome without adding brave on top, I got to the betaflight page, I was able to select my quad, tried to connect, no error message but the "connect" button got stuck on "connecting"

Oh and also there is a /# that appears after the app.betaflight.com

[austere creek]

Just try the Discovery thing

[livid jasper]

I did

It just doesn't wanna do anything, the quad doesn't get picked up by betaflight

[agile pumice]

Send a screenshot

I have no idea what you mean by adding Brave on top of Chrome, but glad you got it kind of working, I guess?

[livid jasper]

Basically just by not using brave and using Google instead

[agile pumice]

Ah. Yeah when I meant "the Chrome version" I meant running the web interface through Google Chrome

[livid jasper]

I see

[agile pumice]

Do you have a known good FC?

[livid jasper]

Yeah