best cinewhoop frame and FC for acro

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Ik there not the best for acro but there must be something, runs on 3s ideally space for different battery sizes but I can probably fix something together for that. Thanks

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Why do you need a cinewhoop frame and fc for acro in the first place? (So Im assuming you will acro with a cinewhoop frame?)

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Yep bc I have motors that are good for a 3 inch, a tiny vtx and camera and a bunch of 3s batteries. I don’t see much point in going for a 3s 5 inch and a 3s tiny whoop is basically a flying battery, right?

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What about “freestyle” 3” or 3.5” frames?

Yeah do u have any suggestions can’t really find any, for FC I suppose anything with inbuilt ELRS is good

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It’s just finding one that doesn’t have a stupid amount of stabilisation

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I havent seen many FC with build in ELRS, so not sure what exactly you mean by that

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I have a elrs receiver but the ratiomaster pocket hates it, probably just the sketchy FC I currently have but idek

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Here some good frames for 3-3.5” :

• Micro apex 3”
• Foxeer caeser racing frame (very much for racing)
• Lil Matey par piratframes 3.5” (my personal choice although a bit heavy but very durable)
• geprc st35 3.5”
• Roma F35 3.5”
• axisflying manta 3.5”

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What exactly do you mean by “hates it”? What exact problem are you having?

Thanks so much, I’ll look at it in 30 mins sorry

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Whenever you have time

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It is broken doesn’t connect to anything just lights think I overheated it

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Are you sure you have done flashing and binding correctly?

Also how does the light look like? Just flickering?

It’s flown before really great, then i turned it on again and it only had 1 light I though it had 2 and it won’t connect to beteflight anymore

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What exact ELRS reciever do you have?

What exact FC do you have?

Can you show me how you soldered it on your FC?

What exactly have you configured in betaflight for your reciever (if there is any to configure)? (Because as far as I know a reciever doesnt connect to betaflight)

What ELRS version does your Reciever and Radio have?

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Im not at Home Right so I Dont have photos but I have the radiomaster p1 of something it’s from the radiomaster store.

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Radiomaster EP1 okay, when your home can continue

Okk thanksss

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Definitely broken, doesn’t beep anymore and connection is another story.

I barely see anything on that pic

Yhh

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Sorry I’m trying with an iPad but ik it’s broken, it won’t respond to the og controller either. It’s gone. It’s not terrible to get a knew fc though I’m going to get some helping hands and it will be a nice challenge. I’ve been saving and my other projects are going slow

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So many problems I kinda lost track of all of it

Yes fair sorry to summarise, I just need buying advice for a fc. I think I’ve decided on the micro apex as I need something small and light because the drone with everything used to be 99g and although it’s powerful it’s good to keep the weight low I think

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For the fc ideally anything that’s going to do acro well, thanks

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Weight does matter, dont make your drone too heavy compared to its size but if you dont need to stay under 250g it doesnt really matter

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Just an FC?

20*20?

Whats your budget?

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Anything under 60 pounds

I’m going to splash out on this because it’s instead of a 5 inch and I fly it every day so if I need over that’s fine

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I want to stay under 250 but I would also like to use the motors I already have and stay at 3s

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Are also a vtx and camera if you have time

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If it come with a receiver and esc that’s ideal but not mandatory

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Diatone Mamba Stack - MK4 F405 FC + 40A 3-6S BLHeli_S ESC - Mini 20x20 (€70 on GetFPV.com)
Just FC: mamba mk4 f405 mini by diatone (€60)

However if you have the budget, go for the F722 FC from Diatone (Mamba)

VTX: rush tank ultimate mini vtx 20*20
Camera: Cadxx Ratel 2 (analog)

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What motors do you have?

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This is a stack, there are AIO boards if you really want to save another 5 grams of weight, however without you should be able to go under 250g too

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Brand is The FPV, they get the drone up to 50 mph so they r good

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Thanks I’ll look into them today, oh also what are the best propellers mine keep getting dented and making it fly bad but this is half due to the frame.

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Yeah but what size/kv?

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Props will dent if you crash, and you can either bend them back (which I don't recommend) or replace them with new ones.

Gemfan and HQprop make really good props, can't really go wrong with them

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It doesn’t say but low ball it just in case, u can’t have too much power

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It’s not when I crash it’s when the battery slips in the way because it’s rested on top

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EX1202.5 8000KV MOTOR, oops that’s not very powerful. Do I need to upgrade aswell?

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https://rotorbuilds.com/

tried this site? Type in what you have and it shows you builds with it.

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Ohh thanks that site is amazing

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I'm sorry, for the new addiction that will surely ensue 😁🤗

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😂😂 it’s fine. Better than video games

I’ve already added like 50 drones to my bucket list though

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I seriously deleted my entire 500 game steam collection after my first flight lol. Video games will never be this good lol

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Yep 😂😂, even YouTube doesn’t compare

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Truuu truuuu

Also the mob 8 if my fave small whoop for indoor and outdoor.

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Yeppp I’ll see, I’ve set my self a boundary till the summer of one freestyle drone. 1 really crazy drone just bc I have loads of time on my hands and want to push myself. And a few arduino projects. We will see if I can resist👀👀

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I have an arduino idea 👋.

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…

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A device to allow remote control of tuning valves on gas and nitro planes.

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Ohhhhh that would be cool. You could do that with the fc though. If u use something like the speedybee f405 wing you have a bunch of other ports for servos or tiny motors to mess around with

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I use fc's quite often 🙂 gas and nitro pilots, at least the ones I know, are kind of anti technology and don't want to setup a flight controller. A 5v device run off of a servo rail may be something they would go for lol

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Ohhhh did u use inav or ardupilot?

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Inav FTW! Gonna try ardu on one soon though

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Yhhh I installed ardupilot. I’m regretting it, I went on holiday, came back and it won’t work. I’m gonna flash it with inav again, I can’t with ardupilot, so annoying

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They both have their own servers that are really helpful if you haven't found them yet

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Yep I’ll look into it, thanks

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Dm'd you an invite 🙂

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😁 thank u!!

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For a 3 inch yes

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It will be fine?

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Personally I would upgrade

Sure you can fly with it

But I don’t recommend it

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Okk what should I upgrade to?

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If your battery blocks the airflow (even partially), its normal that the props wont perform well

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It doesn’t when the fly it’s just when the battery wire gets hit it dents the props

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Many use 1404 4500kv but you can use 1604 ~3800kv or 1804 3500kv too

(1404 may be a bit underpowered while 1804 has a lot more power)

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Ohh thats bad

How does the wire sit when you have your battery on it and conntected?

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It sometimes gets sucked in when I start, I have a fix by tying it round now but I’m getting a knew frame so it will be fine

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It’s wether I upgrade my tinywhoop with the old cinewhoop parts and build a knew cine or just build a 5 inch

But I have a bunch of 3s batteries so if the cinwhoop runs of 3s still that would be good

It’s just an awful lot of money for a cinewhoop, do u think I jus go for a 5 inch instead because I want to fly freestyle

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Wrap your wires and velcro them down any way you can to get them out of the props. I've fried an entire drone that way, it's sad

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Yes should be fine with the knee frame though, it’s out of action at the minute

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Gotcha, what's the new frame?

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5 inch is a big beast

Just telling you

And I would recommend 6S 5” (basically everyone here)

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I have almost cut a wire that way too, luckily some tape fixed the damaged wire

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Yhhh so that’s 100 for the charger and battery

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I would get Joshua bardwells kit

But I think that is over 250g so I would have to fly it in the open

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My Hota D6 Pro charger alone is €100

And 6S 1300mAh can be purchased for €22/piece up to €45/piece

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Yep I looked into it for my plane, it’s fine

I’ll just do a freestyle cinewhoop, should be ok

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No no no no

A cinewhoop and "freestyle" doesn't go together

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Okkk what should I do then, how can I do freestyle under 250g?

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build a 3" or 3.5" with a freestyle frame

all the rest is about the same

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Yhhh so a cinewhoop with a 3” freestyle frame

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😭

So I should go for a 5inch frame

That’s so my how weight thoughhh

what keeps you returning to "cinewhoop"? no one uses a cinewhoop to freestyle

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not at all if you want to go sub250

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Bc cinewhoops the size, sorry I’ll call it a 3 inch freestyle drone 😂😂

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however you can use freestyle builds to record cinematic footage if you really want

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any experience with soldering and building drones before?

Yes

alright nice

I’m 14 though so I will sound stupid sorry

I have my own sub250 3.5" build (on paper), which is pretty expensive.

However I haven't builded it yet and have no idea if it is actually below 250grams. On paper it is with margins taken.

If you want I can send you the excel spreadsheet.

Okkk that would be great thanks😁

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I keep flicking between ideas so I’ll probably make price cuts, this is just proof to me and my parents that i can do this well

about 400 euro for the drone, with all other equipment you are looking at 600 atleast

I have other equipment

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400 for a cinewhoop is mad

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analog too ahaha

Sorry 3inch

digital thats another 100-150 added for the cam and vtx

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Yhh and diy to switch the Googles right?

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wdym?

From digital Goggles to analog

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Is there a cheaper one u think will be good?

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cheap analog goggles?

the EV800D

for some reason I can't share the excel spreadsheet at the moment

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Ahhh okk don’t worry , how long is it can u screen shot?

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https://1drv.ms/x/s!Alot2d7R2q4QqoN94pANDjPk4R-Q7w?e=5Sfnww

here

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Thanks so muchhh

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Looks great

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spent 15 hours picking all the parts 😅

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Hahaha

Its the best there is

so can't go wrong with anything

Do u know how to fix the throttle

When I put throttle up on the controller it does pitch

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I need more information than that

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hold on

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Okk

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does it give throttle when you try to pitch?

No gives pitch when I try throttle

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The whole thing needs to be reset, im on Radiomaster pocket by the way

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yes I know that's what you have told me

so I'm asking what happens when you give it pitch on your radio. What does it do in betaflight then?

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Ohhh sorry I think it does throttle

Oh wait now roll sorrryyy

you think or are you sure?

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I’m sure it’s roll

okay hold on

You will have to change the channel mapping in Betaflight

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How do I do that?

In the reciever tab in betaflight, you have a "channel map"

what does it say in your case?

(should be something like "TAER1234" if I'm right)

A = Aileron = Roll
E = Elevator = Pitch
T = Throttle
R = Rudder = Yaw

AERT

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Yep I am there

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so if I'm right (in your case):

(A) Roll = yaw (R)
(E) pitch = throttle (T)
(T) Throttle = pitch (E)
(R) Yaw = roll (A)

what about yaw and roll?

Roll is yaw

Yaw is roll

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Yes I have it soryyy

Now I have to think how to change the letters so it is set right

AETR

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I have it!!!

Thanks so much

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Alright great

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Alsoooo

Yes?

Can a 6A esc run 3s?

Or 2s?

A 6A esc? Ive never seen that

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One website said it was 6A another said 5

Assume 5

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Eh aio would be better

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If you wanna save weight, yes

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Can you send me the link?

Less weight = better (excluding cinewhoops)

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I personally like to have 5-10 grams more and have FC and ESC seperated

Alr

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Okk. https://www.kiwiquads.co.nz/product/emax-ez-pilot-pro-aio-fc-vtx/

But thats just me

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€140 💀

I would not buy that for a 3” or 3.5”

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Nahhh I got it for cheaper, at reduced from a freind

I already have it dwww I wouldn’t buy it, it was so they could teach me drone building

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And thats for a tinywhoop

Yhhh

For that price you can buy a brand new tinywhoop

(Mobula7 elrs for example)

Yhhh ik I got the whole tie hoop for q50

150

With controller and headset

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But can it run 3s with 6A

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That doesn’t have enough amps

You want like a 20a for a 3 inch

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Yhhh I’m keeping it a tiny whoop i just wanna run it on 2s

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And I’m wondering if I’ll explode it or not

Wdym

Running it on 6a?

The escs will explode

If I put 2s?

What size quad

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Tiny whoop

Then your fine

As long as it’s rated for 2s

And the motors are good for 2s

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Yhhh the motors are but is the fc?

And the esc.

?

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It’s linked above btw

You check yourself

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Idk how sorrry I’m new and young

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It is a 6A esc but I don’t know if that is good for 2s

I know the old motors will explode

But the knew ones won’t

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The amount of cells of your battery doesnt matter, the amount of amps your motors draw is whats important to look at

No the motors are fine

It’s just the fc

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I don’t know if the escs and hardware will stand 2s

Ok

So check them